Anyone using cab 21 ? can this racquet hold tension 24main 26cross ?

Thanks
SS

I got one with that tension in Bg65. But not used much. the frame is still OK.

hmmm.......... i got one with this tension but the shape of the frame changed a lot, much narrow n i think it got 5 mm longer :| when compare with a long racquet < mp88 >, its top can touch the inside of the mp88:(

G'day,

I had my cab21 strung with BG80 at 24x22 and it felt alright.... but it felt much better after tension has dropped about a pound.

Speaking from my personal experience I don't think Cab21 will benefit that greatly from having any more tension than 24lbs. A guy in my club has a Cab21SP strung at 25x24, BG66 and it did not feel any different from mine.

It shouldn't be a problem to string it at that tension. I strung my Cab20 Original and Slim-10 at that tension as well.

Wong Choon Hann uses this racket and as we know, the pros string their rackets at extremely high tensions. Shouldn't be a problem unless its 3U

What is this racquet like ? How old is the Cab 21 model ? What colour is it ?

http://www.bbeshop.com/image1ra/ra_cab21.jpg

Originally posted by GRObFURSt
How old is the Cab 21 model ?

Maybe 15-16 years old.

Does Chan CM of M'sia use this racquet?

If i remember correctly, Chan/Chew, Choong/Lee and Wong Choon Hann all use Yonex rackets. Chan/Chew and Wong all use Cab21. Thats what i remembered reading. Choong and Lee use a Ti-10 and Iso 800 respectively.

I just want to know what kind of a racket this is. Offense/defense? Is it head heavy like the Ti10? or even or light headed? What kind of players will be fit using this racket?

G'day,

I have a Cab21 and I find it a nice balanced racket for all round use. It is slightly head heavy so it has good smash power and it is not too weighty, so it is also suitable for doubles as well.

The racket is also extremely durable. I have lost count of number of racket clashes mine has gone thru (one of the result destruction of another racket) and it still holding up like day one.

Personally it is my best all round racket. If I am having a bad day using MP100/77 I will always go back to Cab21 to save my day! :)

That Too when it is 2100Rs Only for Cab 21Sp. It is something like 50% the price of these Mp rackets and Plays Gr8. The best thing to do would be to strip the handle naked and then add some towel onto it.

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So this is a thread for Cab 21! :D

I broken my Cab 21 SP last night :( Though I still keep my first Cab 21(original, brought 5 years ago, might broken anytime) but not dare to use it anymore. Nowadays I can only find 21 SP and Special here (Hong Kong).

I am in searching for a new model. Any good suggestions? Well, I smash a lot and mainly play doubles (men's and mix). I have a Ti-10 too, but it's such a dumb racket in my hand and I was never able to get the same feeling with it as I have with Cab 21.

Try a Cab20 or 22. I've got Cab20/21/22 and they are a great combo together!

the new Cab 20 MP or the old Cab 20 (Tour)? My friend once got one of the old, but he broken it in its very first game. :D

Is Cab 20 good for doubles? I noticed quite a few single pros used to use Cab20, but not those double players.

G'day,

I've got an old Cab20SP, Cab21AS and Cab22SP and I find the Cab20 the best all round racket, as it combines good control, feel and power.

If you are out to turn shuttles into pulp or play more aggresive doubles, Cab22 is probably the better choice as it is head heavier and packs a punch. It swings a little bit slower than Cab20 though. Control players should like Cab20 more. Cab21's performance is somewhere between Cab20 and Cab22.

thx, ayl. my friend said she will be able to bring some new models for me to test first. I might ask her to include a Cab 20 or Cab 20mp.

Daniel, why don't you buy another cab21sp. They can still be found in HK, with a little effort.

The new cab20sp feel a bit lighter than the older models. I personally prefer the oler ones. It may be due to a slightly different composition of graphite used in the manufacter.

I quite like the cab22sp for doubles but because I like to play singles as well, I use the cab20 which is still quite popular amongst amateur players in HK

good yet safe choice, Chueng. :)

I can get back my another Cab 21 from my friend this summer. Maybe I should get one more Cab21 for back up. :D I am afraid that sooner or later there'll be no more Cab 21 or 21SP, this is not because they are not as good as the new models, but becoz they make less profit for Yonex. Here friends around me never go for these antiques. I am the only one using Carb oval head rackets.

I'd like try something really different though, maybe just for my curiosity. If I find something I really like, I'd buy one.

I reckon you should get more cab21's!

Just like me with older cab20's...stocked up on them.

I played around with MP99. Seem a bit like cab21 with the slim shaft but slightly stiffer and the rotation along the axis of the shaft is a little more resistant.

i 2nd that. cab21 can still be found and also much cheaper than the new and flashier Yonex. with the price other ppl pay for a brand new mp99, you can buy two brand new cab21...

Slightly off topic but I thought the +2 pounds on the cross only applies on isometric racquets not oval? Can anyone please explain this to me. A search didn't help.

Guys....as far as i concern this cab 21 is a legend because it being utilize by great² players long time ago....so no doubt about it....but my worries is does the new series by YY like...Aerotus, Titanium, Iso, muscle power and the lates is Armotec able to beat and pass all the best characteristic quality of cab series....????:p

Currently i m using mp55sp thought of getting a cab 21 sp for my double games. Is it a good choice? Planning to string it with bg 85 22lbs. anyone care to comment?

G'day,

You should find Cab21 an easier racket to use for doubles, if you have good control and don't plan in smashing your opponents off the court. If you are to make holes in the net, stick with MP55.

Both Cab21 and MP55 plays well with BG85 at 22lbs onwards. And seem to last ok.

;)

TQ for the input just got the rac and will be testing it out this wed. strung with bg 85 at 24 lbs. mp55 is a bit slow for doubles for hehe, it still makes hole on the court not on the net :D :D sometimes red marks on opponent's body :p :p (tat is they r half naked on court). my mp55 is with bg 80 at 24 lbs nice control and tremendous power but can't really feel the birdie for those close net plays.

TQ

dunno whether it's only me or what...

but i think cab21 is not an easy racquet to play with unless you've reach certain level...........................



i switched from ti-10 to cab21..... and i kept hitting the shuttle with my frame...... and clear are going out..............

it's not light though..... but quite responsive......

powerwise i'm not sure... but defense wise definately better than ti-10

Most people have trouble switching from Isometric racket back to oval styled rackets. Ti-10 isn't a racket to get used to first place so switching to Cab 21 is probably causing some slight mistiming in your shots.

Cab21 is a great racket however. Persist with it and with time you should grow to like it.

but... it does produce some really tight net shot...............

Originally posted by ayl


The racket is also extremely durable. I have lost count of number of racket clashes mine has gone thru (one of the result destruction of another racket) and it still holding up like day one.



Is it really durable ?? I know it was a good overall performance racket and I'd like to buy one but some people said that it's frame is so fragile and it can't hold high string tension (more than 24 lbs).
I've just bought MP77 SP a few days ago and I strung it with BG80 @ 24 lbs. I feel that the power is quite good enough but need some extra effort to control the shuttle.
I like to buy a new Cab 21 SP (because I live in Indonesia and here's nothing but the SP versions) or the Cab 20 Muscle. Is there any sugestion for me ???

I have never tried cab 20 muscle before, but I do own a cab 21 sp.Cab 21 sp suits me well.I think Its a powerfull all-rounder racquet.In my oppinion cab20muscle and cab21sp both are good racquet, its just a matter of which one suits you better.I am used to head heavy racquet, so I like cab 21 sp.I don't think cab21sp is too stiff to a point that its hard to use.But its more on the stiff side.I strung my cab21sp with bg66 @ 24lbs and i have no durability issues with it.Anyway, I've seen a stringer strung a cab21sp @ 26lbs with no problem.I am sure cab21sp can take tension higher than 24lbs as Woong Chong Han uses it.I bet Woong Chong Han strings his racquet higher than 24lbs(maybe in the 30lbs region).

Hey Thermo,

So you finally settled on the CAB21, eh? Where did you get it? Hope it plays well for you:).

Originally posted by thermodynamics
I have never tried cab 20 muscle before, but I do own a cab 21 sp.Cab 21 sp suits me well.I think Its a powerfull all-rounder racquet.In my oppinion cab20muscle and cab21sp both are good racquet, its just a matter of which one suits you better.I am used to head heavy racquet, so I like cab 21 sp.I don't think cab21sp is too stiff to a point that its hard to use.But its more on the stiff side.I strung my cab21sp with bg66 @ 24lbs and i have no durability issues with it.Anyway, I've seen a stringer strung a cab21sp @ 26lbs with no problem.I am sure cab21sp can take tension higher than 24lbs as Woong Chong Han uses it.I bet Woong Chong Han strings his racquet higher than 24lbs(maybe in the 30lbs region).

Hey,

Is cab 21 still available in Malaysia badminton shops?
How much does it cost there?

The highest tension I put on my cab21 was 25lbs with bg85. It hold that tension very well despite many clashes.

I know that old cab21 had durability issues but the new ones seems to be bullet proof (like cab20).

Beside I had the chance to play with the famous Boron2 this summer and find that 3U cab21 was the closest racquet to Boron2. It is less head heavy in 3U but was still slightly head heavier than Boron2.

Hey,

Is cab 21 still available in Malaysia badminton shops?
How much does it cost there?


yes.

price < RM225 (USD60) plus string, grip n cover

Hey..does anyone have a picture of carbonex 21 sp..and what do u all think about it..thx...

Hey..does anyone have a picture of carbonex 21 sp..and what do u all think about it..thx...

Check first page for picture. Check in review section to know what people think about it.

Cab21 is an awesome racquet, has to be in my top 3 racquet for sure. It has everything and pretty cheap too.

Im using it and i absolutely love it...alot...1st used

My carbonex 21 original had almost 20 years of history,very old and i strung
it with BG-85 at 24 lbs,electronic machine but it doesn't break at all,so amazing

CAB can take at lease 30Lbs 2U version

friend tried 26x28lbs bg66 on his cab21's and has been using in excess of 25lbs continually now, and has suffered no ill-effects (so far).

i found a cab21 with old logo (black butt cap, gold yonex logo).
is old version as good as the newer version?
its about $75, will it be good buy?

thanks guys!

yes!of cuz it will be a very good buy:)

i found a cab21 with old logo (black butt cap, gold yonex logo).
is old version as good as the newer version?
its about $75, will it be good buy?

thanks guys!

$75 in what currency? US dollar or singapore dollar or hk dollar?

brand new ones retails for around US$50-55.

first generation cab21 has some structural problem. two of mine disintegrated after 2 months without a clash. later production ones are fine.

icic...but i think good as a collector u know...jus like me...got a old logo slim10 in my cllection:)

$75 in what currency? US dollar or singapore dollar or hk dollar?

brand new ones retails for around US$50-55.

first generation cab21 has some structural problem. two of mine disintegrated after 2 months without a clash. later production ones are fine.

the actual price is in philippine pesos, converted to US $, it is arount $75. but here the shops usually put high marked-up prices for the racket especially yonex.
it guess its not a good buy as with newer versions of cab21 after all..i'll better start looking for the new ones..

if i saw it correctly, Lee Dong Soo was using a cab21 in Athens. LeeDS is a big cab fan, we have seen him and partner Yoo using a cab20 before.

if i saw it correctly, Lee Dong Soo was using a cab21 in Athens. LeeDS is a big cab fan, we have seen him and partner Yoo using a cab20 before.
Yes. Even yonex says so http://www.yonex.co.jp/intl/badminton/player/index.html

Yes. Even yonex says so http://www.yonex.co.jp/intl/badminton/player/index.html
Just a comment as I saw Xia was mentioned in that page as using a Cab20. What version of the venerable Cab20 do you think is he using?

Just out curiosity...

Just a comment as I saw Xia was mentioned in that page as using a Cab20. What version of the venerable Cab20 do you think is he using?

Just out curiosity...



i believe its original

My carbonex 21 original had almost 20 years of history,very old and i strung
it with BG-85 at 24 lbs,electronic machine but it doesn't break at all,so amazing
Sry some correction,my cousin used it in the F&N team last 30 years and somehow this racquet clash a lot of times and still won't break it seems that this oldest version of cab 21(U/G3) is the best rather than the new sp,2U version.

Sry some correction,my cousin used it in the F&N team last 30 years and somehow this racquet clash a lot of times and still won't break it seems that this oldest version of cab 21(U/G3) is the best rather than the new sp,2U version.

cab21 came out in the late 80's. there is no way he would have one 30yrs ago (ie. mid 1970s)

A recent Cab-convert here mainly due to BF discussion about the venerable Cab20, 21 and 22. To me they are nice, affordable substitutes for the MPs, and Armortecs. Simple, I definitely like them that way.

I originally had a Cab20Tour SP which I bought last year. Nice all around racket. Clashed several times but still alive and kicking behinds!

Currently I'm in a slump but two weeks ago, I came across prestine Cab21SPs. Strung with BG-70@18lbs!!! Bought both rackets for under 100USD (converted from Philippine Pesos to US Dollars) each. Played it the very same day I got it with the crappy-tensioned strings. Seemed promising but i didn't get excited.

Got my two babies restrung using BG80@25lbs and GosenPro66@25lbs. Got to play with them today, well I just used the one strung with BG80 mainly. Played good games with it. Nice power (using Kwun's finger power). Very very controlled net shots (tight spinning net shots and smash drops). The new string livened up the racket. I'm still in a slump but with high hopes specially with the Cab21s by my side.

I'll use the other Gosen-string racket next time around. :)

A proud and satisfied Cab owner!

glad to see another cab convert. :)

i have been using my cab21 more and more lately. despite both being 2U weight, it feels slightly lighter than my cab20. as a result, in comparison it has a faster head speed and it cuts through the air faster. it maybe due to the weight or the slim shaft, i am not sure which, but that's how it felt.

glad to see another cab convert. :)

i have been using my cab21 more and more lately. despite both being 2U weight, it feels slightly lighter than my cab20. as a result, in comparison it has a faster head speed and it cuts through the air faster. it maybe due to the weight or the slim shaft, i am not sure which, but that's how it felt.
I had the same feeling as well. :)

I am guessing it's because Cab21 has less air drag than Cab20 due to its design.

i have a cab21 3u (TH code) strung @ 21/23 with bg65ti.
somehow i find it difficult sometimes to generate power..
is my choice of string (& tension) the 'culprit'?

Been using my new 21sp a few times now. Really neat placings and incredible net shots. Power is also excellent. Strung with bg66 at 21lbs.

i have a cab21 3u (TH code) strung @ 21/23 with bg65ti.
somehow i find it difficult sometimes to generate power..
is my choice of string (& tension) the 'culprit'?
Just wondering is there a cab21 3u? I thought all cabs were 2U... other than those old old Us and the Cab30s 3U?

Just wondering is there a cab21 3u? I thought all cabs were 2U... other than those old old Us and the Cab30s 3U?
there are U, 2U, and 3U cabs. not all models have them, but some do. the U and 3U are more rare though.

Just wondering is there a cab21 3u? I thought all cabs were 2U... other than those old old Us and the Cab30s 3U?

Yeah, I have a 3U KR version in my bag. I prefer it over my 2U one. Just a matter of taste tough. I think its the closest racquet I tried to Boron2.

Yeah, I have a 3U KR version in my bag. I prefer it over my 2U one. Just a matter of taste tough. I think its the closest racquet I tried to Boron2.


haha...at last...found the topic for cab21...
btw...i'm using cab21sp...
really suits me...nice one...
gr8 using it...

can feel the power...
but last month i asked my friend to help me send it to restrung...
i did mention to strung it at 22lbs....
but i dunno...maybe he mistakenly informed the shop guy...and i found out my racquet seems like loosing its power....

i wanna restring it back soonest....
to get the power back...

haha...at last...found the topic for cab21...
btw...i'm using cab21sp...
really suits me...nice one...
gr8 using it...

can feel the power...
but last month i asked my friend to help me send it to restrung...
i did mention to strung it at 22lbs....
but i dunno...maybe he mistakenly informed the shop guy...and i found out my racquet seems like loosing its power....

i wanna restring it back soonest....
to get the power back...

Is is the same tension and strign as before? When u find a winner formula never change it!

i have a mp99, using it as my current main racket, but there are days when my old cab21 feels soo much better :D I especially love it when im not playing well, 'downgrade' to cab21 and eventually rally my way back.

Lately, I feel that my cab21 (bg65@22lbs) has been giving me crispier shots.... maybe its just time to restring my mp99 (bg65@22lbs) :p

cab21.... now thats what i call best bang for your buck :D

Is is the same tension and strign as before? When u find a winner formula never change it!

i don't know...but seems like when i string to 22lbs...it really nice to play with....

maybe they mistakenly string mine to 24 or 26....haha...just simply guess...

i don't know...but seems like when i string to 22lbs...it really nice to play with....

maybe they mistakenly string mine to 24 or 26....haha...just simply guess...I have experienced this many times because I like to change stringers. I'm the type who would cut the strings if it does'nt feel right. 22 lbs for one stringer could be 26 lbs for another. I read in the threads that a 2 to 3 lbs off is normal. Besides that there are different techniques of stringing. Another thing that can be noticed is that the tension appears to drop lot from one stringer to another.

Back to our cab 21, I found that the 2u I'm using is too heavy for doubles. I could play better and with (more power:eek: ?) using a low end Titanium series costing only RM56. The Titanium is also 2u but it feels a lot lighter than the 21. This has been acknowledged by my friends.

I could play better and with (more power:eek: ?) using a low end Titanium series costing only RM56.
:eek: :eek: :eek:
You managed to get a Titanium series racket for only RM56?!
even if it's low-end, that's an astonishing price!
RM56~SGD26~CDN19~US16!!:crying:

Care to share more about your racket?

I have experienced this many times because I like to change stringers. I'm the type who would cut the strings if it does'nt feel right. 22 lbs for one stringer could be 26 lbs for another. I read in the threads that a 2 to 3 lbs off is normal. Besides that there are different techniques of stringing. Another thing that can be noticed is that the tension appears to drop lot from one stringer to another.

Back to our cab 21, I found that the 2u I'm using is too heavy for doubles. I could play better and with (more power:eek: ?) using a low end Titanium series costing only RM56. The Titanium is also 2u but it feels a lot lighter than the 21. This has been acknowledged by my friends.

too heavy for doubles? :rolleyes:

hmm...well...different people different feels i guess...
but for me....it works gr8 for both single and doubles....
i prefer play doubles more than single...and cab21 do give me satisfaction during my play...
maybe you are not used to heavy racquets....

Dear Speedy,

I saw the Cab21 SP selling at RM250-00 in Johor Bahru, is it worth buying it?:confused:
What is the best string tension for this racquet?

TQ.

Been using my new 21sp a few times now. Really neat placings and incredible net shots. Power is also excellent. Strung with bg66 at 21lbs.

:) when I saw 2 Cab21 SPs at a store here, I grabbed the chance and bought them both!

I recently saw a Cab20SP in pristine condition, unstrung :) and its within my buying budget but I need money!!! BTW, this is the new model Cab20SP, blue-ish something paint onn the head.

Hi .... i have been playing with yonex carbonex 21SP for years.... it is a great racket. Since then isometric rackets have been stormed to emerge as a competitive edge over oval head shape racket, i find that control of those rackets is still unparallel to carbonex 21. I am looking for a racket that suits my play that I have been comfortable with carbonex 21. Any carbonex 21 users pls post with your reference of new rackets that compliments with yonex carbonex 21.... I heard they are going to phrase out in a few years time.http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/images/icons/icon9.gif I am going to stock some spare rackets. How about those carbonex 20 or 30 MP.... how different are they. What about other brand stiff rackets? How similar are they? Please give me some advice. Great appreciation for your help.

Latest update from a shopkeeper told me..... He has been trying out all sorts of rackets and found out Yonex Ti 7 is one of the complimentary rackets for Cab 21. Just because it has slim shaft like Cab 21 and the swing movement feels similar. Only different is the sweet spot is enlarge just like those others isometric frame.Is that true? :confused: (P.S. Yonex Ti 10 is totally different behaviour from Cab 21overall characteristcs)

Dear Speedy,

I saw the Cab21 SP selling at RM250-00 in Johor Bahru, is it worth buying it?:confused:
What is the best string tension for this racquet?

TQ.

i got my 2U Cab21SP at RM220 (without grip & string). i string it with BG66 at 23lbs (eventhough the recommended tension is up to 20lbs).

Nice feel, control and powerful smash.

The recommended tension for 2U Cab21SP produced in 2004 is up to 22lbs.... the serial no.... if i m not mistaken is 5012918 260643SP

still getting used to the Cab21SPs.

with my very limited badminton experience and skill level I can safely say that the Cab21 is perfect for me. 2 Cab21s, one is strung with Gosen Pro-66@25lbs the other is strung with BG80@25lbs, both 2U, with 1 layer Head overgrip over the stock grip. I feel no difference in power and control b/n the two rackets.

feel and control at the net is superb. tight spinning net shots are almost effortless.

clears and smashes are good. just good maybe because of my poor technique and slow footwork but when I properly get behind the shuttle this Cab packs a nice punch. baseline to baseline (forehand) lobs are very good. been working with my backhand technique with the Cab and i'm getting consistently more power. for drops the control is there but my technique is very poor so some of my drops are very high near the net area which is very very killable.

both Cabs gives good feel of the shuttle being struck. nice sound too. soon i'll be standardizing all of my strings and i'm currently eyeing Gosen Pro-66. here in the Philippines, it is almost half the price of the Yonex string line.

I mostly play doubles (MD and MXD) and I find the Cab fits into my game style. Not too slow nor too light that it lacks the power and punch. I can say that I can execute my shots anywhere on the court (provided my footwork doesnt fail me).

Definitely best back for my undervalued peso!

still getting used to the Cab21SPs.



Definitely best back for my undervalued peso!



Totally Agree, cab21 is very cheap and yet so reliable

Just got a second cab 21 sp as a spare. I just love it .... it takes my game to a higher level!

here is an old cab21 with old logo & hence there are no serial number on it...

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I liked both Cab 20 and 21 very much in my old days.

Cab20 is control freak. Cab21 is a good attacker. It's slim shaft makes it move much faster than Cab20, especially in double game.

However, after I changed to MP88, I can't switch back to regular length - stiff oval racket anymore.

i just buy new cab 21 sp yesterday n used last night , feel excellent this is my dreaming racket, power n control goes excellent no complaining about it. but i need 1 game to handle this racket coz i used mp 22 (iso-head) before.

fyi. price CAB 21 sp rp.640.000/9200 about USD 70 ( incl.bag n BG66 )
CAB 21 Special Rp. 520.000/9200 -- USD 57 ( incl.bag n bg66 )

dont push it cabs not really those high tension rackets

mp88 is a very forgiving racket so going to cab21 u may feel missing the sweet spot initially.

mp88 is a very forgiving racket so going to cab21 u may feel missing the sweet spot initially.

I learned that from the hard way :rolleyes::p

wat about cab21special? is diff from cab21sp
here cab21sp is rm230 n special is rm150

wat about cab21special? is diff from cab21sp
here cab21sp is rm230 n special is rm150

Cab 21 special is very different from Cab 21 sp. Cab 21 Special is a 'watered down' version.