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dassad
12-07-2008, 03:13 PM
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We could try to summarise here for you the SSF rules: .
thank you for this effort. I am still pretty weak about these determinations as soon as im too less time here around. But any way and any time there are human who make these rules. That's no automatic.
I mean every good rule has inside reason. Why exactly 12? Why exactly 8? and so on. I believe there are such reasons here also.
But the problem is these rules sound too automatic. You may be the God of the year but you don't reach 0.00001 % of point and you're out :)
I exaggerate with a clear tipoff)
What is a goal of SSF founders? TO make good tournament? TO follow the rules? TO be the best competitors interest in the year? To be the academic institution with academic approaches?
Just after knowing an answer for these questions one can answer if these rules made perfect.
Currently, with absence of plenty main players, this tournament looks not really interesting. :o
chris-ccc
12-07-2008, 04:42 PM
I mean every good rule has inside reason. Why exactly 12? Why exactly 8? and so on. I believe there are such reasons here also.
But the problem is these rules sound too automatic. You may be the God of the year but you don't reach 0.00001 % of point and you're out :)
What is a goal of SSF founders? TO make good tournament? TO follow the rules? TO be the best competitors interest in the year? To be the academic institution with academic approaches?
Just after knowing an answer for these questions one can answer if these rules made perfect.
Currently, with absence of plenty main players, this tournament looks not really interesting. :o
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dassad ... From what I see, Badminton is trying to follow/copy Tennis. The 'Masters Series' in Tennis is quite popular, so BWF says 'Let call ours The Super Series'. :):):)
Fortunately for Tennis players, they have become real independent professional players from way back (in the 1960's).
In Badminton, we are yet to have real 'Independent Professional Players'. In fact, the so-called 'Professional Players' as placed in our Badminton Central Forum should not be called so, but be called 'National Associations Players'.
What I am saying is... 'Independent Professional Players' make decisions to enter tournaments by themselves, whereas 'National Associations Players' are subjects of their National Team Managements' decisions.
I am not saying that the system in Badminton is not as good as in Tennis. But I am saying that the SS Format in Badminton might not achieve what it hopes to achieve, until when we can have real 'Independent Professional Badminton Players'.
:):):)
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huangkwokhau
12-07-2008, 06:41 PM
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:D:D:D ctjcad ... Surprised my your questions/comments too. Perhaps, the competition is new.
1st part .... Because no city wanted and/or could afford to hold the 2007 SSF
2nd part ... The World Top 32 ranked players interested in participating: click here (http://www.internationalbadminton.org/super.html)
:):):)
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Let me emphasize again and again in previous replies....BWF did not have sponsor.....Jakarta has money to host as well as Singapore...There is NO MONEY and SPONSOR for 2007 SSF...Period!!! I do not understand why you keep defending BWF as they have admitted there was no sponsor....
Krisna
12-07-2008, 09:17 PM
Let me emphasize again and again in previous replies....BWF did not have sponsor.....Jakarta has money to host as well as Singapore...There is NO MONEY and SPONSOR for 2007 SSF...Period!!! I do not understand why you keep defending BWF as they have admitted there was no sponsor....
chris@ccc always had a different notion of management and responsibility... For him, BWF seems to not be responsible for many things and somehow appear more competent in his eyes than they really are...
chris-ccc
12-07-2008, 09:57 PM
Let me emphasize again and again in previous replies....BWF did not have sponsor.....Jakarta has money to host as well as Singapore...There is NO MONEY and SPONSOR for 2007 SSF...Period!!! I do not understand why you keep defending BWF as they have admitted there was no sponsor....
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huangkwokhau ... In 2007, I was told that BWF have the US$5000,000 prize money but no city would/could afford to host the SSF.
It has never been my intention to defend the BWF.
In fact, I have criticised the BWF:
for not sharing money raised to help cities wishing to stage the SSF,
for not using money raised to implement the 'Hawk-Eye' to help in lines judging,
for not investigating 'Match Fixing' when they are obvious,
etc......
The things that I have praised the BWF have been:
for the introduction of the Super Series to create more interests amongst Badminton fans,
for the introduction of the 'Rally Point Scoring" to make Badminton more 'Television Friendly',
for providing assistance to countries where Badminton is not popular, like starting Badminton coaching centres there and buying equipments for them,
etc......
It has been great that Badminton Central has provided us a forum to discuss many things, to promote Badminton to everybody, and to make Badminton a popular sport in the future.
Most Important: Let us do our little part to help make Badminton great to play and to watch.
:):):)
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badMania
12-07-2008, 11:52 PM
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huangkwokhau ... In 2007, I was told that BWF have the US$5000,000 prize money but no city would/could afford to host the SSF.
In that case, the source of your information was wrong ;)
Apparently, there are many cities (as listed by Hau-Ge) who could afford to host the Super Series Final. But, BWF, for some reason, decided to not to choose among any one of those. So, it has to be the sponsorship issue :o Because, if money wasn't the issue, BWF could just choose to hold it in those countries who are more than willing to host the event.
Personally, I don't think BWF have that kind of money. Yonex-Sunrise has been one of its biggest sponsors and this time round, they come out with the sponsorship,
Krisna
12-08-2008, 03:35 AM
In that case, the source of your information was wrong ;)
Yup, chris@ccc have been misled and also have misguided thoughts... The BWF situation regarding SS Finals is clear for some of us. But not so clear to him even after so many explanations. Just leave him with his own thoughts. It is his right to choose to be misled and misguided...
CYW2006
12-08-2008, 08:13 AM
so anyone got info that chinese player are coming or not?
thanks
Ajaib
12-08-2008, 07:30 PM
In tennis, they play as individuals(who happen to be from the same country) and real matches.
In badminton,the players report to their BA (or head coach) not BWF.If there are no two per country rule, LYB may apply his famous strategy and you get unreal matches like what you saw in OG08 SF match between CJ and LD where both got to conserve energy for their medal matches while their opponents, LCW and LHI used up all their energy to win.The result was two fresher CHN MS playing non-CHN MS in subsequent matches.
I wouldn't be surprised if this two per country rule were imposed for OG12.
If CHN decides not to send their qualified players to SSF, it means they are not confident of winning titles when CHN has no opportunity to apply their unique strategy and undue advantage.
I have no problems with more players from the same country if they can play as individuals...
However,note that CHn's not the only country affected by the rule.In the present and future, it's likely to be MAS, INA and DEN...
1.are the players in tennis report to ATP or WTA or ITF ????
i think it's no either....what's the advantage to report to BWF or ATP or WTA or ITF??????
2. it's very easy for you to forget their real matches before Semi Final and u just remember the semifinal matches
3.LOL,, it should be like this: Another country worried that China will dominate the tournament so BWF made the rule to prevent China from dominating this sport and make this sport more popular,,,, SO the one who are not Confident of winning the tittle should not be CHINA,,,,
4. Chinawass the most affected country by this rules....
PS: i'm sorry but it seems that u always doubt about Chinese players abillity of winning the matches and always think about conspiracy in China team,, meanwhile u TOTALLY forget how the Chinese players PRACTICE so HARD to produce a good result... i can say even HARDER than your idol...
abedeng
12-08-2008, 08:00 PM
Well, 2007 was the BWF political-infighting year between the President and the ex-Deputy, only resolved middle of this year ..... so no wonder BWF didn't concentrate too much on finding sponsors for Super Series last year.
chris-ccc
12-08-2008, 08:13 PM
In that case, the source of your information was wrong ;)
Apparently, there are many cities (as listed by Hau-Ge) who could afford to host the Super Series Final. But, BWF, for some reason, decided to not to choose among any one of those. So, it has to be the sponsorship issue :o Because, if money wasn't the issue, BWF could just choose to hold it in those countries who are more than willing to host the event.
Personally, I don't think BWF have that kind of money. Yonex-Sunrise has been one of its biggest sponsors and this time round, they come out with the sponsorship,
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badMania ... While following the development (and the eventual failure) of last year's 2007 SSF, it was mentioned that only 2 cities, Doha in Qatar, and Alor Star in Malaysia, showed interest in holding it. And SMP was to finance the US$500,000.00 in prize money.
Yesterday's post, huangkwokhau mentioned that Jakarta and Singapore also wanted to host the SSF last year, but were turned down. I was shocked because the intentions of these 2 cities were not released at Badminton Central (perhaps I missed that post) and/or by BWF.
I am only interested to see that the SSF can be staged annually. And I believe for it to happen, we need all parties, BWF, National Associations, Sponsors, Host Cities, etc... to work together.
If we are to suggest anything here at Badminton Central without speaking out to our National Associations, then nothing would happen. If our National Associations are not relaying our concerns to BWF, then we should sack them. And if BWF is not listening to National Associations, then it's time to sack BWF too.
It's better not to fight and/or to criticise one another but to give a hand to resolve the situation.
:):):)
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ctjcad
12-09-2008, 05:17 PM
..hmm, i guess BWF will probably need to release or share some kind of information/reason(s) regarding last yr's cancellation of the SS Finale to settle all these doubts/questions.....................or will they actually reveal the truth/real reason(s) behind it???...hmmm:confused:http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/39.gif:confused:
chris-ccc
12-09-2008, 05:34 PM
..hmm, i guess BWF will probably need to release or share some kind of information/reason(s) regarding last yr's cancellation of the SS Finale to settle all these doubts/questions.....................or will they actually reveal the truth/real reason(s) behind it???...hmmm:confused:http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/39.gif:confused:
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Yes, because I am still thinking that BWF could offer the US$500,000.00 for the 2007 SSF prize money, but no city (or National Association) could manage to raise enough money for themselves to stage it.
Or is it the other way around? :confused::confused::confused:
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Krisna
12-09-2008, 11:56 PM
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Yes, because I am still thinking that BWF could offer the US$500,000.00 for the 2007 SSF prize money, but no city (or National Association) could manage to raise enough money for themselves to stage it.
Or is it the other way around? :confused::confused::confused:
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BWF did not have the money in 2007!!! They mismanaged the whole 2007 SS Finals story! How many times do we need to tell you! :(
suetyan
12-10-2008, 12:01 AM
so anyone got info that chinese player are coming or not?
thanks
Erm.. according to a news from Sina, high probability they are not coming because they have to move house. Their current condo(on north side) have to renovate, so they have to move to the condo on south. They had also changed their plan. On 20 Dec, they are not going to Chengdu for Winter training, the training will be postponed until after Chinese New Year. So now, they will be having the training in Beijing.
george@chongwei
12-10-2008, 01:03 AM
ok then, thanks for the information, suetyan:D
Erm.. according to a news from Sina, high probability they are not coming because they have to move house. Their current condo(on north side) have to renovate, so they have to move to the condo on south. They had also changed their plan. On 20 Dec, they are not going to Chengdu for Winter training, the training will be postponed until after Chinese New Year. So now, they will be having the training in Beijing.
Not sure which link you're reading, the one I read only mentioned the condo renovation is going to be done ahead of schedule so they like to move in completely before the Chinese New Year(late January) hence the original training schedule will be delayed about one month and will be a shorter training.
If that's the case then I would think the chance for the players to attend the 2008 Super Series Final, 2009 Malaysia and Korea Opens should be greatly enhance? My Chinese may be a bit rusty so someone please read this link and verify my interpretation.
http://sports.sina.com.cn/o/2008-12-10/11124116874.shtml
suetyan
12-10-2008, 01:33 AM
Not sure which link you're reading, the one I read only mentioned the condo renovation is going to be done ahead of schedule so they like to move in completely before the Chinese New Year(late January) hence the original training schedule will be delayed about one month and will be a shorter training.
If that's the case then I would think the chance for the players to attend the 2008 Super Series Final, 2009 Malaysia and Korea Opens should be greatly enhance? My Chinese may be a bit rusty so someone please read this link and verify my interpretation.
http://sports.sina.com.cn/o/2008-12-10/11124116874.shtml
I am reading this one. http://sports.sina.com.cn/o/2008-12-10/00004115915.shtml
As well as this one http://badminton.sport.org.cn/home/xwkd/2008-12-10/227111.html
I am reading this one. http://sports.sina.com.cn/o/2008-12-10/00004115915.shtml
As well as this one http://badminton.sport.org.cn/home/xwkd/2008-12-10/227111.html
Thanks Suetyan. It will be unwise if Chinese coaching staff decided not to let players participate in SS Final. This is an easy money for the Chinese players and I really don't think it will affect their training schedule and furthermore, it's for the good of badminton sports.
Anyway, we will find out in 2 days ...
suetyan
12-10-2008, 01:58 AM
Thanks Suetyan. It will be unwise if Chinese coaching staff decided not to let players participate in SS Final. This is an easy money for the Chinese players and I really don't think it will affect their training schedule and furthermore, it's for the good of badminton sports.
Anyway, we will find out in 2 days ...
yalor, but I think the power is still in the hand of their head coach :D Even though they may want to win the huge money (as you mention it is an easy money for them), but if the head coach say 'NO' they also can't do anything, haha...
huangkwokhau
12-11-2008, 12:55 AM
It seems Jo/Greysia will replace some of WD..just do not know who has withdrawn
george@chongwei
12-11-2008, 08:10 AM
YONEX-SUNRISE BWF WORLD SUPER SERIES MASTERS FINALS 2008
More $$$ for doubles
11 December 2008
Pix by BadmintonPhoto
IN a historic first, winners in the doubles events will receive a higher total prize money than players in the singles field.
Endorsed at the recent Badminton World Federation Council meeting in Seoul, Korea, winners of the men’s doubles, women’s doubles and mixed doubles will receive a prize purse of US$42,000 for each pair, working out to US$21,000 for each player.
http://www.badmintoninternational.net/NewsEditor/Data/817-limpele_poliismall.jpgIn contrast, winners of the men’s singles and women’s singles will pocket US$40,000 each.
The prize money distribution proposal for the YONEX-Sunrise BWF World Super Series Masters Finals 2008 was put forward by the Events Committee and endorsed unanimously by the Council on 6 December 2008.
In fact, all eight qualifiers for the Super Series Finals will receive a share of the prize money with the quarter-finalists earning US$4,500 each (singles) and US$5,000 each pair.
The total prize money for the YONEX-Sunrise BWF Super Series Masters Finals 2008 is US$500,000 with the top eight players in the Super Series ranking invited for the tournament.
The tournament, which will be played at the Likas Indoor Stadium in Kota Kinabalu, Sabah, Malaysia, does not offer any world ranking points. The tournament runs from 18 to 21 December.
Please refer to table on prize money distribution at the Super Series Masters Finals 2008 section on www.internationalbadminton.org
CYW2006
12-11-2008, 10:01 AM
Erm.. according to a news from Sina, high probability they are not coming because they have to move house. Their current condo(on north side) have to renovate, so they have to move to the condo on south. They had also changed their plan. On 20 Dec, they are not going to Chengdu for Winter training, the training will be postponed until after Chinese New Year. So now, they will be having the training in Beijing.
it must be dissapointed someone who want to watch Lin dan on court...
btw...thanks...suetyan
george@chongwei
12-11-2008, 11:18 AM
Badminton Super Series Final @ Kompleks Sukan Likas - Floor Plan
here's a video preview of the venue for the ss final..
enjoy:)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhtYpyMi500
bananakid
12-11-2008, 08:37 PM
it must be dissapointed someone who want to watch Lin dan on court...
btw...thanks...suetyan
You have got to be kidding... people in Malaysia want to see Lin Dan kicking LCW's butt again???:p Team China is doing Malaysians a big favor by not kicking their hero's butt in front of the home audience.:cool:
Louisa
12-11-2008, 08:49 PM
You have got to be kidding... people in Malaysia want to see Lin Dan kicking LCW's butt again???:p Team China is doing Malaysians a big favor by not kicking their hero's butt in front of the home audience.:cool:
well, my dear little kid...though we dislike everytime LD kicking LCW's butt, who can deny that without LD & other top guns, the game is becoming less entertaining & competitive?
I am not looking down at others, but with their present here in KK, they surely add spices & colours to the game. Don't you think so????
Even if LD is kicking LCW's butt, we have to admit that he plays better than LCW...:D
pjswift
12-11-2008, 09:49 PM
well, my dear little kid...though we dislike everytime LD kicking LCW's butt, who can deny that without LD & other top guns, the game is becoming less entertaining & competitive?
I am not looking down at others, but with their present here in KK, they surely add spices & colours to the game. Don't you think so????
Even if LD is kicking LCW's butt, we have to admit that he plays better than LCW...:D
In SO08,our tournament had no CHN MS or MD or WS(?) present.The tournament was just as successful and worth every $ we paid for. In any tournament,there will be some great matches and boring ones.How great were the MS matches in HKO08 without LCW's presence?
LD played better than LCW in CHN territories if their 2008 matches were any indication.That's why CHN's opting out of MO09 and KO09, not just SSF.I don't expect LD to turn up for SO09 or IO09 either.Has LD ever won in IO,MO or SO? Nearly.
bananakid
12-11-2008, 10:02 PM
In SO08,our tournament had no CHN MS or MD or WS(?) present.The tournament was just as successful and worth every $ we paid for. In any tournament,there will be some great matches and boring ones.How great were the MS matches in HKO08 without LCW's presence?
LD played better than LCW in CHN territories if their 2008 matches were any indication.That's why CHN's opting out of MO09 and KO09, not just SSF.I don't expect LD to turn up for SO09 or IO09 either.Has LD ever won in IO,MO or SO? Nearly.
errr... how about World Championship 07 held in Malaysia???:rolleyes: The big one... not the little MO, IO, and SO. :rolleyes:
pjswift
12-11-2008, 10:15 PM
errr... how about World Championship 07 held in Malaysia???:rolleyes: The big one... not the little MO, IO, and SO. :rolleyes:
That was 2007. I said 2008.
Surely you can monitor LYB's confidence in his team by where he fields them.Let me predict for you where he will field LD for 2009.
AE,SWO,WC?,TO?,DO,FO?,JO,CO1,CO2,HKO.
jasonmarc
12-11-2008, 10:26 PM
That was 2007. I said 2008.
Surely you can monitor LYB's confidence in his team by where he fields them.Let me predict for you where he will field LD for 2009.
AE,SWO,WC?,TO?,DO,FO?,JO,CO1,CO2,HKO.
Totally agreeed...with U pj.....:D:D:D
LYB is not confident even with LD the WC 07 and Olympic Champion 08.....to play in places like Korea and SEA..........;). it just not their confortable zone,...i think!.....:D:D
george@chongwei
12-12-2008, 01:01 AM
You have got to be kidding... people in Malaysia want to see Lin Dan kicking LCW's butt again???:p Team China is doing Malaysians a big favor by not kicking their hero's butt in front of the home audience.:cool:
or it is the other way round?:D
ppl in malaysia would like to see lcw's come back from behind in the 3rd set again to kick LD's butt from behind:D
maybe lin dan is afraid the same thing happened in kuching durING mo06 will happen again in this year SS Finale in KK, Sabah.?:cool::p
limsy
12-12-2008, 02:19 AM
aiya...u all miss out a point...in hko,cm or co...lyb can ensure his player won mah...thats for sure...for sure...lcw can also pick not to play in hko,cm and co...
limsy
12-12-2008, 02:21 AM
That was 2007. I said 2008.
Surely you can monitor LYB's confidence in his team by where he fields them.Let me predict for you where he will field LD for 2009.
AE,SWO,WC?,TO?,DO,FO?,JO,CO1,CO2,HKO.
haha...aiya...then just ld fans can excuse lcw is in top where ld in all the function...dinner...or event...;)...maybe ld just play ss nia next year...in semis retire condition...more excuse ld fans can give..:D
etudiant
12-12-2008, 04:29 AM
Here are the participants to SS Finale after Chn team withdrew :
Men’s singles: Lee Chong Wei (MAS), Sony Dwi Kuncoro (INA), Joachim Persson (DEN), Peter Gade (DEN), Taufik Hidayat (INA), Chan Yan Kit (HKG), Andrew Smith (ENG) and Wong Choong Hann (MAS)
Women’s singles: Zhou Mi (HKG), Tine Rasmussen (DEN), Wang Chen (HKG), Pi Hongyan (FRA), Xu Huaiwen (GER), Wong Mew Choo (MAS), Saina Nehwal (IND) and Yu Hirayama (JPN).
Men’s doubles: Markis Kido-Hendra Setiawan (INA), Zakry Abdul Latif-Mohd Fairuzizuan Tazari (MAS), Lee Yong Dae-Jung Jae Sung (KOR), Mathias Boe-Carsten Mogensen (DEN), Candra Wijaya-Tony Gunawan (INA-USA), Koo Kien Keat-Tan Boon Heong (MAS), Simon Mollyhus-Anders Kristiansen (DEN) and Cho Gun Woo-Yoo Yeon Seong (to be confirmed).
Women’s doubles: Wong Pei Tty-Chin Eei Hui (MAS), Lilyana Natsir-Vita Marissa (INA), Kamilla Rytter Juhl-Lena Frier Kristiansen (DEN), Ha Jung Eun-Kim Min Jung (KOR), Charmaine Reid-Nicole Grether (CAN-GER), Duang Anong Aroonkesorn-Kunchala Voravitchitchaikul (THA), Jo Novita-Greysia Polii (INA) and Judith Meulendijks-Yao Jie (NED).
Mixed doubles: Nova Widianto-Lilyana Natsir (INA), Thomas Laybourn-Kamilla Rytter Juhl (DEN), Anthony Clark-Donna Kellogg (ENG), Robert Blair-Imogen Bakier (ENG-SCO), Sudket Prapakamol-Saralee Thoungthongkam (THA), Songphon Anugritayawon-Kunchala Voravitchitchaikul (THA), Yoo Yeon Seong-Kim Min Jung (KOR, to be confirmed) and Flandy Limpele-Vita Marissa (INA).
Jagdpanther
12-12-2008, 04:48 AM
Here are the participants to SS Finale after Chn team withdrew :
Men’s singles: Lee Chong Wei (MAS), Sony Dwi Kuncoro (INA), Joachim Persson (DEN), Peter Gade (DEN), Taufik Hidayat (INA), Chan Yan Kit (HKG), Andrew Smith (ENG) and Wong Choong Hann (MAS)
Women’s singles: Zhou Mi (HKG), Tine Rasmussen (DEN), Wang Chen (HKG), Pi Hongyan (FRA), Xu Huaiwen (GER), Wong Mew Choo (MAS), Saina Nehwal (IND) and Yu Hirayama (JPN).
Men’s doubles: Markis Kido-Hendra Setiawan (INA), Zakry Abdul Latif-Mohd Fairuzizuan Tazari (MAS), Lee Yong Dae-Jung Jae Sung (KOR), Mathias Boe-Carsten Mogensen (DEN), Candra Wijaya-Tony Gunawan (INA-USA), Koo Kien Keat-Tan Boon Heong (MAS), Simon Mollyhus-Anders Kristiansen (DEN) and Cho Gun Woo-Yoo Yeon Seong (to be confirmed).
Women’s doubles: Wong Pei Tty-Chin Eei Hui (MAS), Lilyana Natsir-Vita Marissa (INA), Kamilla Rytter Juhl-Lena Frier Kristiansen (DEN), Ha Jung Eun-Kim Min Jung (KOR), Charmaine Reid-Nicole Grether (CAN-GER), Duang Anong Aroonkesorn-Kunchala Voravitchitchaikul (THA), Jo Novita-Greysia Polii (INA) and Judith Meulendijks-Yao Jie (NED).
Mixed doubles: Nova Widianto-Lilyana Natsir (INA), Thomas Laybourn-Kamilla Rytter Juhl (DEN), Anthony Clark-Donna Kellogg (ENG), Robert Blair-Imogen Bakier (ENG-SCO), Sudket Prapakamol-Saralee Thoungthongkam (THA), Songphon Anugritayawon-Kunchala Voravitchitchaikul (THA), Yoo Yeon Seong-Kim Min Jung (KOR, to be confirmed) and Flandy Limpele-Vita Marissa (INA).
I thought TH and LYD/JJS have withdrawn as well? :confused:
ctjcad
12-12-2008, 05:32 AM
YONEX-SUNRISE BWF WORLD SUPER SERIES MASTERS FINALS 2008
More $$$ for doubles
11 December 2008
...www.internationalbadminton.org
..thanks for the news link. Not too shabby for the winner's prize money, esp. over a 3-day tournament..:cool:
etudiant
12-12-2008, 05:39 AM
I thought TH and LYD/JJS have withdrawn as well? :confused:
yes.....sorry...........TH also withdrew...........but LYD/JJS is still coming.........
Jagdpanther
12-12-2008, 06:26 AM
yes.....sorry...........TH also withdrew...........but LYD/JJS is still coming.........
Oh, I see. Thank you. :)
I was referring to this post.
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1047976&postcount=1
jutawin
12-12-2008, 06:36 AM
So bad.. China players withdraw. But it opens chance for other country players to get title. Since china is too dominant..
CYW2006
12-12-2008, 08:18 AM
well, my dear little kid...though we dislike everytime LD kicking LCW's butt, who can deny that without LD & other top guns, the game is becoming less entertaining & competitive?
I am not looking down at others, but with their present here in KK, they surely add spices & colours to the game. Don't you think so????
Even if LD is kicking LCW's butt, we have to admit that he plays better than LCW...:D
that's what i mean.....;)
george@chongwei
12-12-2008, 09:49 AM
and ASTRO will be dedicate a special channel 816 starting from 18th of november ,this thursday specially for this ss final..:)
all 4 days action mostly starting from 5pm mas time..
stay tuned:) put your decoder on standby mode to receive this channel..:)
cheers!:)
limsy
12-12-2008, 09:53 AM
and ASTRO will be dedicate a special channel 816 starting from 18th of november ,this thursday specially for this ss final..:)
all 4 days action mostly starting from 5pm mas time..
stay tuned:) put your decoder on standby mode to receive this channel..:)
cheers!:)
glad to hear this...:D...haha...hope mas can win 2 out of the 4 event they represent...:D
george@chongwei
12-12-2008, 10:03 AM
glad to hear this...:D...haha...hope mas can win 2 out of the 4 event they represent...:D
yes..im very happy to hear this too..
we, badminton fans, will surely glu ourselves in front of the tv to watch that tournament live;):):D
extremenanopowe
12-12-2008, 10:10 AM
wah.... LCW not or never man....;)
I bet he will be climbing the mt kinabalu everyday to win this. ;)
limsy
12-12-2008, 10:17 AM
wah.... LCW not or never man....;)
I bet he will be climbing the mt kinabalu everyday to win this. ;)
well...th not here...ld not here...:rolleyes:...only problem is sdk and pg...:rolleyes:
Oldhand
12-12-2008, 10:40 AM
Perhaps it's time to rename this event as: "Super Series - Limited Edition" :rolleyes:
limsy
12-12-2008, 11:29 AM
Perhaps it's time to rename this event as: "Super Series - Limited Edition" :rolleyes:
well...as this is the 1st edition...i think the following edition also without china squad...:rolleyes:
george@chongwei
12-12-2008, 11:39 AM
here's more information regarding the event venue
STADIUM TERTUTUP LIKAS KOTA KINABALU, SABAH
LIKAS SPORTS COMPLEX KOTA KINABALU, SABAH Likas Sports Complex is located about 10 minutes from the city centre and is Sabah and Kota Kinabalu’s most comprehensive sporting venue.
Kota Kinabalu’s sprawling hub of sport and recreational activities, the Likas Sports Complex houses various sport diciplines, and is also a regular venue for large events, such as the annual Chinese New Year and Rahmadan open houses.
The sports complex, famous as the home for various of Sabah’s sporting associations including the football team, Sabah Rhinos, is in close proximity to the Sabah Trade Centre and a nearby driving range.
Address:
Jalan Komplex Sukan
Kota Kinabalu, Sabah
88999 MALAYSIA
Telephone:
(088) 222 034 or 214 331
http://www.worldsuperseriesmasters.com/venue.htm
eaglehelang
12-13-2008, 02:55 AM
Whoops, more withdrawal as India's Saina N couldnt get her new passport in time :
http://www.badzine.info/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1474:ss-finals
d65up2
12-13-2008, 03:43 AM
I am sick and tired of this...why the heck does Malaysia always host these events??!!! Is there not any other countries to host it?? Why does it have to be MAS...I suggest all INA players to withdraw...Just let MAS win this one
Jagdpanther
12-13-2008, 04:15 AM
I am sick and tired of this...why the heck does Malaysia always host these events??!!! Is there not any other countries to host it?? Why does it have to be MAS...I suggest all INA players to withdraw...Just let MAS win this one
Man, I can't believe this...
Almost all your posts I've seen so far always blast Malaysia, be it the people, policy, and their shuttlers.
I'm afraid I cannot defend you, my fellow countryman, in case you are attacked by Malaysian BCers or face banning threat because of this post. Since you are not worth defending, that is.
Good luck. :(
limsy
12-13-2008, 04:18 AM
Man, I can't believe this...
Almost all your posts I've seen so far always blast Malaysia, be it the people, policy, and their shuttlers.
I'm afraid I cannot defend you, my fellow countryman, in case you are attacked by Malaysian BCers or face banning threat because of this post. Since you are not worth defending, that is.
Good luck. :(
welll...its ok...relax...all country have those ppl that make his country shame...;)...to me...i skip his post when i saw his name...;)...peace in bc is more important...:D
Oldhand
12-13-2008, 07:54 AM
Whoops, more withdrawal as India's Saina N couldnt get her new passport in time :
http://www.badzine.info/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1474:ss-finals
No, she has not withdrawn from the event.
She has now been issued the passport.
However, she still needs a Malaysian visa.
I have posted the update here (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1049059&postcount=224) :)
chris-ccc
12-13-2008, 07:55 AM
I am sick and tired of this...why the heck does Malaysia always host these events??!!! Is there not any other countries to host it?? Why does it have to be MAS...I suggest all INA players to withdraw...Just let MAS win this one.
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d65up2 ... Why Malaysia is to be blamed when players from other countries couldn't make it there? :confused:
If you have been reading the whole thread, you would know how thankful we are for Malaysia to host the 2008 SSF.
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pjswift
12-13-2008, 08:58 AM
No, she has not withdrawn from the event.
She has now been issued the passport.
However, she still needs a Malaysian visa.
I have posted the update here (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1049059&postcount=224) :)
Come on, Saina!!!
Oldhand,do something quickly for the visa.Wave your magic wand.
Oldhand
12-13-2008, 10:15 AM
Come on, Saina!!!
Oldhand,do something quickly for the visa.Wave your magic wand.
Haha... :D
I believe the Malaysian Consulate in India (Chennai) is already on the job :)
limsy
12-13-2008, 10:18 AM
Haha... :D
I believe the Malaysian Consulate in India (Chennai) is already on the job :)
Come on, Saina!!!
Oldhand,do something quickly for the visa.Wave your magic wand.
well....uncle oldhand hint that he is the MS in india...:p
huangkwokhau
12-13-2008, 06:47 PM
Saina will be replaced by Yao Jie...anyway..she is there with Judith for WD whether Saina will make it or not.
eaglehelang
12-14-2008, 01:06 AM
Lim Khim Wah/Wong Pei Tty qualified for SS FInals as Korea's Yoo/Kim, Msia's Tan Wee Kiong/Woon Khe Wei & 2 other pairs could not make it. From The Star intv, the young Khim Wah seems pretty excited abt it :
http://thestar.com.my/services/printerfriendly.asp?file=/2008/12/14/sports/2804884.asp&sec=sports]
jutawin
12-14-2008, 02:38 AM
is there any information which indonesia tv channel will broadcast it live??
since astro stop broadcasting, no badminton live show..
samuel882
12-14-2008, 06:08 PM
Lim Khim Wah/Wong Pei Tty qualified for SS FInals as Korea's Yoo/Kim, Msia's Tan Wee Kiong/Woon Khe Wei & 2 other pairs could not make it. From The Star intv, the young Khim Wah seems pretty excited abt it :
http://thestar.com.my/services/printerfriendly.asp?file=/2008/12/14/sports/2804884.asp&sec=sports]
It is Great that Lim Khim Wah make the cut for final spot in XD.
The results doesnt really matter as he got the chance to compete with many of top pairs in the world. Hopes he treasure that experince and growth with greater excel in future :)
badMania
12-14-2008, 11:57 PM
Looking at the names of the qualifiers, Team INA has a high chance to win the XD title, with Nova Widianto/Liliyana Natsir and Flandy Limpele/Vita Marissa among the 8 pairs. The withdrawal of KOR and CHN pairs means that the main challenge will come from Thomas Laybourn/Kamilla Rytter-Juhl, Anthony Clark/Donna Kellogg, and Sudket Prapakamol/Saralee Thoungthongkam.
The dark horse from MAS Lim Khim Wah/Wong Pei Tty may also pose a threat, given their good performances against the Olympics Champions recently. The other 2 pairs: Songphon Anugritayawon/Kunchala Voravichitchaikul and Robert Blair/Imogen Bankier should be manageable.
As for WD, Wong Pei Tty/Chin Ee Hui, Kamilla Rytter-Juhl/Lena Frier-Kristensen and Ha Jung Eun/Kim Min Jung will be the title contenders alongside Vita Marissa/Liliyana Natsir. Jo Novita/Greysia Polii can play the role of party poopers as they have the capability to defeat the Danes and Korean as well.
ulfah
12-15-2008, 12:38 AM
yes, I think nova/lily can get title xd. I hope.
george@chongwei
12-15-2008, 12:41 AM
sadly, no joachim fisher nelsen and christina pedersen in this tournament too:(
jutawin
12-15-2008, 12:46 AM
I hope indonesia tv channel broadcast it live
chris-ccc
12-15-2008, 01:18 AM
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BTW, is our Sandy going to organise our PAW Games for this 2008 SSF?
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huangkwokhau
12-15-2008, 01:20 AM
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BTW, is our Sandy going to organise our PAW Games for this 2008 SSF?
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Yes..he will do it after drawing tomorrow....
chris-ccc
12-15-2008, 01:26 AM
Yes..he will do it after drawing tomorrow....
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That's great ... Looking forward to participate in our PAW Games for this one. :):):)
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limsy
12-15-2008, 01:54 AM
It is Great that Lim Khim Wah make the cut for final spot in XD.
The results doesnt really matter as he got the chance to compete with many of top pairs in the world. Hopes he treasure that experince and growth with greater excel in future :)
yes...then he will be even greater in mo 09 onward...:D
hansonlouphers
12-15-2008, 07:08 AM
Looking at the names of the qualifiers, Team INA has a high chance to win the XD title, with Nova Widianto/Liliyana Natsir and Flandy Limpele/Vita Marissa among the 8 pairs. The withdrawal of KOR and CHN pairs means that the main challenge will come from Thomas Laybourn/Kamilla Rytter-Juhl, Anthony Clark/Donna Kellogg, and Sudket Prapakamol/Saralee Thoungthongkam.
The dark horse from MAS Lim Khim Wah/Wong Pei Tty may also pose a threat, given their good performances against the Olympics Champions recently. The other 2 pairs: Songphon Anugritayawon/Kunchala Voravichitchaikul and Robert Blair/Imogen Bankier should be manageable.
As for WD, Wong Pei Tty/Chin Ee Hui, Kamilla Rytter-Juhl/Lena Frier-Kristensen and Ha Jung Eun/Kim Min Jung will be the title contenders alongside Vita Marissa/Liliyana Natsir. Jo Novita/Greysia Polii can play the role of party poopers as they have the capability to defeat the Danes and Korean as well.
Songphon Anugritayawon/Kunchala Voravichitchaikul are good players. they are very advanced recently!! can be tough opponents for INA's XD
wont too much expect.. wish INA players tons of luck!! :)
Krisna
12-15-2008, 09:48 AM
In case you guys have not heard the good news [for INA], TH will now play!!!! :) He will go to KK in a few days...
limsy
12-15-2008, 10:16 AM
In case you guys have not heard the good news [for INA], TH will now play!!!! :) He will go to KK in a few days...
oh ya...th is way better than nw...:D...yeah...
OneToughBirdie
12-15-2008, 05:29 PM
In case you guys have not heard the good news [for INA], TH will now play!!!! :) He will go to KK in a few days...
Learning that this LD chap is not in SSF (otherwise TH could get kick again by LD and a pretty big licking too cos' TH has been losing 2 straights to LD lately and one more boot kick would really kick confidence, ego and moral) TH ponders :rolleyes: and walla!! I gotta chance to win this SSF thingie cos I can beat this LCW fella and playing in MAS is like playing at home with MAS crowd liking TH too...win SSF would get good $$$dough, a championship medal or trophy (consider that winnning anything with this LD chap lurking around is tough business) to show his daugther and gain one-up on LD who does not have a SSF championship trophy...yet!!...that is my take on TH joining in, albeit a mischievous one:p:D
huangkwokhau
12-15-2008, 06:28 PM
Learning that this LD chap is not in SSF (otherwise TH could get kick again by LD and a pretty big licking too cos' TH has been losing 2 straights to LD lately and one more boot kick would really kick confidence, ego and moral) TH ponders :rolleyes: and walla!! I gotta chance to win this SSF thingie cos I can beat this LCW fella and playing in MAS is like playing at home with MAS crowd liking TH too...win SSF would get good $$$dough, a championship medal or trophy (consider that winnning anything with this LD chap lurking around is tough business) to show his daugther and gain one-up on LD who does not have a SSF championship trophy...yet!!...that is my take on TH joining in, albeit a mischievous one:p:D
Actually it is not the case..Yonex wanted TH here to attract the crowd...TH gets big sponsorship from Yonex...dont think TH will perform well....even without LD, I do not think TH could win either...;)
ctjcad
12-15-2008, 06:40 PM
..courtesy of internationalbadminton.org..Looks like all participants will get some prize money, with a minimum of $5,000/pair for Doubles and $4,250/player for Singles.:cool:
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r310/ctjcad/Misc/SSF-pm1.jpg
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r310/ctjcad/Misc/SSF-pm2.jpg
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r310/ctjcad/Misc/SSF-pm3.jpg
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r310/ctjcad/Misc/SSF-pm4.jpg
ctjcad
12-15-2008, 06:55 PM
..barring any changes..courtesy of internationalbadminton.org
MS
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r310/ctjcad/Misc/SSF-MS.jpg
WS
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r310/ctjcad/Misc/SSF-WS.jpg
MD
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r310/ctjcad/Misc/SSF-MD.jpg
WD
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r310/ctjcad/Misc/SSF-WD.jpg
XD
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r310/ctjcad/Misc/SSF-XD.jpg
OneToughBirdie
12-15-2008, 07:48 PM
Actually it is not the case..Yonex wanted TH here to attract the crowd...TH gets big sponsorship from Yonex...dont think TH will perform well....even without LD, I do not think TH could win either...;)
I am just poking fun, you know that:D But looking at the lineup, TH could win.
limsy
12-15-2008, 11:56 PM
I am just poking fun, you know that:D But looking at the lineup, TH could win.
sure...he can toy lcw...:p...but...need lcw help him toy out jp...;)...if not...:rolleyes:
samuel882
12-16-2008, 12:14 AM
Ah Wah /Pei Tty withdrew :(
huangkwokhau
12-16-2008, 12:16 AM
Ah Wah /Pei Tty withdrew :(
n..I think they are in...just checked it again...it is so confusing...lets see the final draw...
huangkwokhau
12-16-2008, 12:17 AM
I am just poking fun, you know that:D But looking at the lineup, TH could win.
:D..not sure I will PAW him this time....:p
limsy
12-16-2008, 12:17 AM
Ah Wah /Pei Tty withdrew :(
can we know the reason???:crying:
limsy
12-16-2008, 12:18 AM
n..I think they are in...just checked it again...it is so confusing...lets see the final draw...
uncle sam have personal contact with lkw...i think this is final...:crying:
george@chongwei
12-16-2008, 02:26 AM
uncle sam have personal contact with lkw...i think this is final...:crying:
weird, but here's the article from today's star paper.:rolleyes:
http://thestar.com.my/sports/story.asp?file=/2008/12/16/sports/2815160&sec=sports
Badminton: Pei Tty treads with caution to avoid double trouble
KUALA LUMPUR: Shuttler Wong Pei Tty has a chance to make it a double joy for Malaysia in the Super Series Masters Finals. But she does not wish to count the chicken before they are hatched.
Although it will be more taxing playing in two events, Pei Tty is looking forward to having a good time in the competitions with Chin Eei Hui in the women’s doubles and with Lim Khim Wah in the mixed doubles.
Her participation with youngster Khim Wah, who were the 20th ranked pair in the Super Series mixed doubles standings, was confirmed just three days ago.
The 27-year-old Pei Tty admitted that it would be tougher in the mixed doubles.
“I was surprised when I found out a few days ago that Khim Wah and I would get to compete in the mixed doubles. This gives us another opportunity to work out on our partnership,” said Pei Tty.
The duo teamed up last April and their best finish thus far was a semi-final appearance in the Thailand Open.
http://thestar.com.my/archives/2008/12/16/sports/p62-peitty.JPG
“Khim Wah is a very hard working player but he lacks experience,” said Pei Tty, whose best achievement in mixed doubles was a bronze medal-winning effort with Koo Kien Keat in the 2006 World Championships in Madrid.
“We will be the underdogs at the Masters Finals but we will try to give the others good fights. Hopefully, we will get better in every tournament.”
The favourite for the Masters Finals mixed doubles title are world number one Nova Widianto-Lilyana Natsir of Indonesia.
In the women’s doubles, Pei Tty-Eei Hui are the top seeds. And in the absence of China’s Du Jing-Yu Yang and Zhao Yunlei-Cheng Shu, they have a good chance to continue with their good run on the international stage.
Pei Tty, who has been on a roll with Eei Hui since winning the Danish Open title in October, however, chose not to be over-confident. They had also finished as the runners-up in the French and China Opens.
“Eei Hui and I want to continue with our good feeling in the international tournaments. There will be no pair from China but it will not be easy either against those from Indonesia and South Korea,” she said.
The Indonesians in the fray are Lilyana-Vita Marissa and Jo Novita-Greysia Polii. The South Korean qualifiers are Ha Jung-eun-Kim Min-jung.
limsy
12-16-2008, 03:11 AM
haha...the news article is yerterday wrote...uncle sam today just say they withdrawed
jon_91
12-16-2008, 03:42 AM
haha...the news article is yerterday wrote...uncle sam today just say they withdrawed
really mei...i dun believe bo...i wan to c both of them action la....please dun be a reality
etudiant
12-16-2008, 05:00 AM
is anyone know the draws yet....if so kindly share in here......
chris-ccc
12-16-2008, 09:32 AM
is anyone know the draws yet....if so kindly share in here......
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2008 SUPER SERIES MASTERS FINALS DRAWS
Mens Singles
Group A
Lee Chong Wei (MAS)
Peter Gade (DEN)
Wong Choong Hann (MAS)
Chan Yan Kit (HKG)
Group B
Sony Dwi Kuncoro (INA)
Joachim Persson (DEN)
Taufik Hidayat (INA)
Andrew Smith (ENG)
Womens Singles
Group A
Zhou Mi (HKG)
Wang Chen (HKG)
Yu Hirayama (JPN)
Xu Huaiwen (GER)
Group B
Tine Rasmussen (DEN)
Pi Hongyan (FRA)
Saina Nehwal (IND)
Wong Mew Choo (MAS)
Mens Doubles
Group A
Mohd Zakry Latif-Mohd Fairuzizuan Tazari (MAS)
Jung Jae Sung-Lee Yong Dae (KOR)
Robert Blair-Chris Adcock (ENG)
Simon Mollyhus-Anders Kristiansen (DEN)
Group B
Markis Kido-Hendra Setiawan (INA)
Mathias Boe-Carsten Mogensen (DEN)
Candra Wijaya-Tony Gunawan (INA-USA)
Koo Kien Keat-Tan Boon Heong (MAS)
Womens Doubles
Group A
Lilyana Natsir-Vita Marissa (INA)
Ha Jung Eun-Kim Min Jung (KOR)
Judith Meulendijks-Yao Jie (NED)
Duang Anong Aroonkesorn-Kunchala Voravichitchaikul (THA)
Group B
Wong Pei Tty-Chin Eei Hui (MAS)
Lena Frier Kristiansen-Kamilla Rytter Juhl (DEN)
Jo Novita-Greysia Polii (INA)
Charmaine Reid-Nicole Grether (CAN-GER)
Mixed Doubles
Group A
Nova Widianto-Lilyana Natsir (INA)
Robert Blair-Imogen Bankier (ENG-SCO)
Sudket Prapakamol-Saralee Thoungthongkam (THA)
Flandy Limpele-Vita Marissa (INA)
Group B
Thomas Laybourn-Kamilla Rytter Juhl (DEN)
Anthony Clark-Donna Kellogg (ENG)
Songphon Anugritayawon-Kunchala Voravichitchaikul (THA)
Lim Khim Wah-Wong Pei Tty (MAS)
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george@chongwei
12-16-2008, 10:37 AM
is anyone know the draws yet....if so kindly share in here......
or u can refer to this thread about the draw..http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=64008
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