European Badminton Team Championships / Liverpool / 10-15 Feb 2009

[Loh]

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Thursday, January 29, 2009

Gade in Denmark Squad as England prepare for Euro bid

TEAM ENGLAND today learned that they will have to overcome Denmark at their strongest if they are to win the European Team Badminton Championship at the Echo Arena Liverpool from February 10-15.

With just under two weeks to go to the start of the Championship, all 32 competing nations submitted their squads to Badminton Europe today.

And after weeks of speculation about the Denmark line-up, former BADMINTON England Performance Director Finn Traerup Hansen, who is now Denmark’s head coach, has relented and named his strongest possible squad – including singles stars Peter Gade and Tine Rasmussen.

Gade is the man in form having just won the Korean Open Super Series men’s singles title while Rasmussen is the 2008 Yonex All England women’s singles champion as well as this month’s Korea Open winner. The Danish team, who are holders, 12-times winners and top seeds, have named 18 players in their squad although Traerup may well hold back his big guns until the knockout stages.

Team England were among the first to name their squad at the start of this month and team manager Ian Wright can draw on the experience of new European mixed doubles champions Anthony Clark and Donna Kellogg as well as the men’s doubles partnership of Clark and Nathan Robertson, who reached the Malaysian Open semi-finals in early January. Those three players have nearly more than 250 international appearances between them.

In contrast Liverpool’s Helen Davies is the rookie in the team, having been selected after making a winning debut against Poland in Warsaw in December.

Fourth seeds Poland or fifth seeds Holland are Team England’s likely semi-final opponents if the second seeds and former champions (1978 and 1984) come through Group 8 to earn their place in the knockout quarter-finals. There they are expected to face eighth seeds Ukraine.

Poland have named world No.9 Przemyslaw Wacha and doubles specialists Michel Logosz, Robert Mateusiak and Kamila Augustyn in their line-up while the Dutch have also named their strongest squad with Eric Pang and Dicky Palyama for men’s singles and 2002 European champion Yao Jie and Judith Meulendijks for women’s singles.

Third seeds Germany are Denmark’s likely semi-final opponents and their strength lies in the women’s events where they can call on 2006 and 2008 European champion Xu Huaiwen or Juliane Schenk to play both singles and doubles if necessary.

England start their campaign in the evening session (6pm) on Tuesday, February 10 against the Czech Republic before facing Wales on the Wednesday and Scotland on the Thursday evening.

The Scotland squad includes Jillie Cooper, who recently won the Bank of Scotland International and Yonex Welsh International women’s doubles titles with England squad member Mariana Agathangelou while Super Series Masters mixed doubles finalists Imogen Bankier and Edinburgh-born England player Robert Blair are also in opposing camps

When Wales and Scotland meet on the opening night it will bring Andrew Bowman up against Martyn Lewis in the doubles. The pair won the Welsh International men’s doubles together in November.

A total of 410 players representing a total of 32 nations were confirmed today and can be viewed on www.europeanbadminton.com

BADMINTON England Chief Executive Adrian Christy said: “It’s great for the fans that Denmark have named players like Peter Gade in their squad and I am delighted to see such a top-quality entry for the Team Championship. It will whet the appetite for the Individual Championship when it comes to Manchester in April next year.

“But first we want to get behind Team England. The home fans can play a vital part if England are to end that 25-year wait for another team title.”

The groups competing over the first three days of the European Team Championship (with seeding in brackets) are:

GROUP 1 GROUP 2 GROUP 3 GROUP 4

Denmark (1) France (7) Germany (3) Russia (6)
Spain Cyprus Slovakia Latvia
Slovenia Portugal Estonia Norway
Ireland Switzerland Sweden Belarus

GROUP 5 GROUP 6 GROUP 7 GROUP 8

Netherlands (5) Poland (4) Ukraine (8) England (2)
Austria Finland Italy Czech Republic
Israel Lithuania Hungary Wales
Belgium Bulgaria Iceland Scotland


Final positions in the 2008 European Team Championship:

1 Denmark, 2 England, 3 Poland, 4 Netherlands, 5 Germany, 6 Russia, 7 France, 8 Ukraine, 9 Scotland, 10 Bulgaria,11 Sweden, 12 Czech Republic, 13 Iceland, 14 Finland, 15 Ireland, 16 Estonia.

Denmark have won the last seven European titles and 12 in all since the competition began in 1972. England have been the champion nation five times but have not struck gold since the 1984 Europeans in Preston – the last time the event was staged in England.

Sweden are the only other nation to have been champions (1992 and 1994) and they are in Group 3 with third seeds Germany, Slovakia and Estonia.

It is the first time the European Team Championship has not been played concurrently with the European Individual Championships. Instead, Manchester’s MEN Arena will host the European Individual Championship in April 2010.

[CLELY]

Definitely Denmark is strong favourite for this tournament. And England team has chance to overcome Danish squad if they win all doubles departments.

[george@chongwei]

once again team Denmark will be the power house in the europe side;) imo

[badders7]

Gade is NOT playing.

These are the players according to danish badminton federation website:

http://www.badminton.dk/Nyheder/Nyhedsarkiv%202009/Januar%202009/EM-holdet%20udtaget.aspx

Joachim Persson, Team Skælskør Slagelse
Jan Ø. Jørgensen, Team Århus
Carsten Mogensen, BS København
Mathias Boe, Team Skælskør Slagelse
Thomas Laybourn, BS København
Joachim Fischer Nielsen, Bs København

Tine Rasmussen, Værløse
Nanna Brosolat Jensen, BS København
Kamilla Rytter Juhl, Værløse
Marie Røpke, Gentofte
Christinna Pedersen, Greve

[limsy]

i would like to see team like poland beat denmark...^^...

[damo135]

The world's fastest racket sport will hit the North West as Liverpool and Manchester are set to stage one of its premier tournaments, the European Badminton Championships. The star-studded Championships will be split into two events for the first time ever with the Echo Arena, Liverpool holding the 2009 European Team Championship from 10th-15th February 2009.
Tickets for the Team Championship, which are set to feature many of the world's top players from over 30 different nations including stars from Beijing such as British Olympians Nathan Robertson, Anthony Clark and Donna Kellogg, have gone on sale today at www.accliverpool.com (http://www.accliverpool.com/) with prices starting at just £12 for adults and £3 for children.

With the championships fast approaching, you must book in advance to be sure of your ticket!

[CLELY]

European Mixed Team Championships 2009 :

http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/tournament.aspx?id=25612

[jljy91]

any PAW game for this? haha

[jljy91]

this game will start tomorrow...

[CLELY]

Top seed and the defending champion Denmark will start their campaign on Wednesday against Spanish team.

[Loh]

Definitely Denmark is strong favourite for this tournament. And England team has chance to overcome Danish squad if they win all doubles departments.

Which events do you think England can win against Denmark? The new Clark/Robertson MD partnership seems to be going places. :D

[CLELY]

Which events do you think England can win against Denmark? The new Clark/Robertson MD partnership seems to be going places. :D

Probably England XD pair Clark/Kellogg has chance to beat Laybourn/Juhl...

[mirko]

france does not participate?

[george@chongwei]

france does not participate?
france team is there for this tournament;)

[Loh]

france does not participate?

I doubt France has been left out. Probably baddy fans here do not think France stands much of a chance since France can't boast of many high world ranking players, except Pi Hongyan.

[jafffa]

Gade is NOT playing.

These are the players according to danish badminton federation website:

http://www.badminton.dk/Nyheder/Nyhedsarkiv%202009/Januar%202009/EM-holdet%20udtaget.aspx

Joachim Persson, Team Skælskør Slagelse
Jan Ø. Jørgensen, Team Århus
Carsten Mogensen, BS København
Mathias Boe, Team Skælskør Slagelse
Thomas Laybourn, BS København
Joachim Fischer Nielsen, Bs København

Tine Rasmussen, Værløse
Nanna Brosolat Jensen, BS København
Kamilla Rytter Juhl, Værløse
Marie Røpke, Gentofte
Christinna Pedersen, Greve

So Gade isn't playing... dame i was lookin forward to that lol, i'm lucky enough to go to this one, going on last day so i get to see finals. Anyone else?

[jljy91]

what is the time difference with mas time? thanks

[RichF]

what is the time difference with mas time? thanks
We're 8 hours behind you, Malaysia is GMT (UTC) +08:00.

Here's a silly question, but here goes....

....will there be any TV coverage in the UK?

[simonlovers]

Pablo Abian beat Joachim Persson??...
:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

[limsy]

Pablo Abian beat Joachim Persson??...
:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

relax...jp is not on form lately...he is not consistence...:(

[simonlovers]

Nanna take first set..
C'mon Denmark..beat Spain and other countries..but not Indonesia in Sudirman..:cool:

[limsy]

Nanna take first set..
C'mon Denmark..beat Spain and other countries..but not Indonesia in Sudirman..:cool:

haha...^^...1stly i tot u supporting danes...but...hehe...:p..still ina^^...:D

[simonlovers]

haha...^^...1stly i tot u supporting danes...but...hehe...:p..still ina^^...:D
:D:D:D....
you support malaysia than denmark, don't you?:cool:

[simonlovers]

Hohoho..
Nanna save one point for Denmark...
21-13 21-13..

where is Tine?

[limsy]

:D:D:D....
you support malaysia than denmark, don't you?:cool:

depend...if ur player is keep making mistake...no point to support at tat moment...correct??...;)...
in this tournament...i hope to see some rising country...:D

[badboypedi]

first big surprise: Pablo Abian of spain beats joachim persson in an one hour match by 21-19, 19-21, 21-18!

[jljy91]

We're 8 hours behind you, Malaysia is GMT (UTC) +08:00.

Here's a silly question, but here goes....

....will there be any TV coverage in the UK?


thanks for the information....

[limsy]

wow...how sad portugal will be...leading 2-0...and lost 3 straight point...faint...:(

[george@chongwei]

as expected, denmark wins their 1st match by 4-1.;)

[Loh]

It is nice to see badminton thriving in Europe with so many countries participating. It also gives us in Asia a chance to get acquainted with some of the players' names, especially those that have not been seen in tournaments here in the East. It would even be nicer if some of our European BCers can post some pics here to enable us associate the face with the name. :)

The Mixed Team Championships has completed its second day with another four days remaining. So far, some of the better known badminton countries did not disappoint although some players created upsets, notablythe defeat of Joachim Persson of Denmark by Pablo Abian of Spain in MS. It is good that unknown players can shine as underdogs.

The following countries remain undefeated after 2 days, with varying results, except those highlighted which made perfect scores:

1. Belarus beat Norway 5-0 and Latvia 5-0.
2. Belgium beat Israel 5-0 and Austria 4-1
3. Bulgaria beat Lithuania 4-1 and Finland 4-1.
4. England beat Czech Republic 5-0 and Wales 5-0.
5. France beat Cyprus 5-0 and Portugal 4-1.
6. Germany beat Slovakia 5-0 and Estonia 5-0.
7. Iceland beat Hungary 3-2 and Italy 3-2.
8. Netherlands beat Austria 5-0 and Israel 4-1.
9. Poland beat Lithuania 4-1 and Finland 4-1.
10. Russia beat Latvia 5-0 and Norway 5-0.
11. Scotland beat Czech Republic 4-1 and Wales 4-1.
12. Sweden beat Estonia 3-2 and Slovakia 5-0.
13. Switzerland beat Portugal 3-2 and Cyprus 5-0.
14. Ukraine beat Italy 5-0 and Hungary 5-0.

It would seem from the above that Cyprus, Latvia, Norway and Slovakia are the weaker teams.

Some players contributed more points for their respective countries.
:p

All the results can be found here:

http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=25612&d=20090211

[CLELY]

Danish team will play twice today, against Slovenia and Ireland. Will they create the perfect score 5-0? From the line-up DEN vs SLO, Tine Rasmussen will play WD, let's see how the result...

[george@chongwei]

any livestreaming in this tournament btw?

[KlasseE]

any livestreaming in this tournament btw?
Pls see here (http://simplybadminton.blogspot.com/2009/02/link-of-live-streaming-european-mixed.html) for live online

[limsy]

anyone have any detail abt pedro martins from portugal???...:D

[george@chongwei]

Pls see here (http://simplybadminton.blogspot.com/2009/02/link-of-live-streaming-european-mixed.html) for live online
thx for the info:)

[george@chongwei]

hmm, the schedule say today at 11 am local time got livestreeaming.
means 1900 in mas.
means not got livestreaming?

[KlasseE]

hmm, the schedule say today at 11 am local time got livestreeaming.
means 1900 in mas.
means not got livestreaming?
yeah, dunno what is happening, always offline...
but able to watch live from more reliable service on this saturday by espn

[klc28]

We're 8 hours behind you, Malaysia is GMT (UTC) +08:00.

Here's a silly question, but here goes....

....will there be any TV coverage in the UK?

Rich - Those that have Setanta will get some. Better check the Setanta schedule.

**********************
FOR the first time Setanta are to screen top-class badminton in England when they screen the European Team Championships final from the Echo Arena in Liverpool.

The highlights show will be screened all next week, starting Monday at 17.00-18.00, and thereafter at the same time each night up to and including Friday.

Former England stars Gill Clark and Simon Archer will provide the commentary.
**********************

[demolidor]

Setanta 2 to be precise.

[Loh]

After Joachim Persson's unexpected loss to Spain's Pablo Abian, Denmark redeemed themselves by securing two perfect 5-0 scores against Slovenia and Ireland and remain in good contention to win the title.

Other notable perfect winners include Russia (v Belarus), Netherlands (v Belgium) and surprisingly, Finland (v Lithuania).

But some of yesterday's perfectionists had to give away a match (4-1) against more worthy opponents and they include:

1. England (v Scotland)

Commonwealth Games Champion Susan Hughes was not to be denied and won a well-deserved point for Scotland against presumably the younger Elizabeth Cann, albeit in three games.

Even Scotland's lesser known pair of Andrew Bowman/Watson Briggs managed to snatch the second game from the more illustrious Anthony Clark/ Nathan Robertson, 21-13, 22-24, 21-7.

2. Germany (v Sweden)

Sweden's point came from their WD of Emma Wengberg/Emelie Lennartsson who beat Birgit Overzier/Sandra Marinello, 19-21, 21-16, 21-16.

3. Ukraine (v Iceland)

Iceland secured a sole point from their XD.

And Belarus which completely knocked out Latvia and Norway the day before were on the receiving end yesterday when Russia gave them not much of a chance with a 5-0 demolition. Now will Russia be the dark horse of the tournament?

Not forgetting Poland which continued their march steadily with another decisive win over strong Bulgaria 4-1, a scoreline which Poland had managed for all their three matches so far.

Bulgaria's WS Linda Zechiri was too strong for Poland's Anna Narel when she won 21-11, 21-14 in 26 min.

Poland continued to secure points from the more reliable MS Przemyslaw Wacha and MD Michal Logosz/Robert Mateusiak who had not lost any of their three matches so far, with RM also featuring in XD.

So the remaining 8 worthy teams which had survived this far and will compete for a place in tomorrow's semi finals (I presume) are not much of a surprise except perhaps Ukraine:

1. Denmark v France
2. Germany v Russia
3. Netherlands v Poland
4. Ukraine v England

My prediction for the winners is as highlighted. The match between Netherlands and Poland could go either way. And my gamble on Russia may be off-target too. :D

What is yours? :)

[CLELY]

So the remaining 8 worthy teams which had survived this far and will compete for a place in tomorrow's semi finals (I presume) are not much of a surprise except perhaps Ukraine:

1. Denmark v France
2. Germany v Russia
3. Netherlands v Poland
4. Ukraine v England

My prediction for the winners is as highlighted. The match between Netherlands and Poland could go either way. And my gamble on Russia may be off-target too. :D

What is yours? :)

I guess Germany team has good chance to beat Russia.

[george@chongwei]

wow, means there will be live on setanta? cool:cool:

[limsy]

I guess Germany team has good chance to beat Russia.

i put my money on russia...;)

[Loh]

i put my money on russia...;)

How much? Don't worry, Pemuda is not around. :D

[Jagdpanther]

Russia aims to win badminton gold in London 2012. Their players need to shine from now on. Let's wait and see.:)

[Dmitry]

In my opinion, in doubles the chances are 50-50, but in singles Germany is stronger. Let's see...

[arowana]

In my opinion, in doubles the chances are 50-50, but in singles Germany is stronger. Let's see...

agree with Dmitry: Germany will win MS and WS and needs to beat one of the doubles to beat Russia...

[arowana]

Vislova and Sorokina lead 21-10, 13-4 in the deciding fifth game...looking very good for Russia ;)

[Dmitry]

agree with Dmitry: Germany will win MS and WS and needs to beat one of the doubles to beat Russia...
Wow!!! Russia won!!!:)

But why Kristof Hopp didn't play? XD and MD would be stronger with him. And very strange line up for WD: scratch pair with a single (though very good) player... It looks like the German team was not optimal this time... but anyway it is strong, and congratulations to my compatriots for winning this match!:)

[arowana]

Wow!!! Russia won!!!:)

But why Kristof Hopp didn't play? XD and MD would be stronger with him. And very strange line up for WD: scratch pair with a single (though very good) player... It looks like the German team was not optimal this time... but anyway it is strong, and congratulations to my compatriots for winning this match!:)

yes, congrats to Russia :)

in her Bundesliga matches XHW had good results when playing WD, but Vislova & Sorokina are good. German double pairings have changed for this year... don´t think Hopp would have changed that much...

if i recall correctly the MD was from Nowosibirsk? :rolleyes:

[Dmitry]

yes, congrats to Russia :)
if i recall correctly the MD was from Nowosibirsk? :rolleyes:

Yes, MD and a half of XD are from Novosibirsk.:)
WD and second half of XD are from Nizhnij Novgorod.
MS from Saratov and WS originally from Samara, but now... I even don't know...:)

[arowana]

so Novosibirsk wins over Germany with some help from Nizhnij Novgorod ;)

[Loh]

Yes, MD and a half of XD are from Novosibirsk.:)
WD and second half of XD are from Nizhnij Novgorod.
MS from Saratov and WS originally from Samara, but now... I even don't know...:)

Can't blame you for not knowing....
Even you think your countrymen will lose to Germany.
But I have a slightly greater confidence in them.
The Russians are coming ...
You better watch out!

[Loh]

So the remaining 8 worthy teams which had survived this far and will compete for a place in tomorrow's semi finals (I presume) are not much of a surprise except perhaps Ukraine:

1. Denmark v France
2. Germany v Russia
3. Netherlands v Poland
4. Ukraine v England

My prediction for the winners is as highlighted. The match between Netherlands and Poland could go either way. And my gamble on Russia may be off-target too. :D

What is yours? :)

The Tournament software website is a disappointment as not all the results were not updated for yesterday's matches. Only the match that Denmark won 3-1 against France was shown.

However, I got a detailed report from European Badminton Championships website as follows:

14th February 2009

Team England through to European semi-finals

By Daniel Smith, Samuel Van Gelder and Gill Lake

Team England booked their place in tomorrow’s European Team Championship semi-final after a largely dominating performance against eighth seeds Ukraine.

The English pairing of Nathan Robertson and Jenny Wallwork got the hosts off to a great start in the mixed doubles at Liverpool's Echo Arena.

With Wallwork dominating at the net and Robertson showing his lethal side throughout with his trademark overhead smashes, the result was never in doubt. Robertson hit one smash at a staggering 299kph in a comfortable first game, which England took 21-9 in just 10 minutes.

The second game was not as comfortable, but Wallwork continued to defend well at the net to ensure England’s first point of the match after a 21-9 21-14victory.

It was a much more even affair in the second match as World Number 21 Andrew Smith came from a game down to defeat Ukraine's Dmytro Zavadskyy 17-21 21-15 21-18 in 52 minutes. Smith showed his fighting spirit to overcome the stubborn Zavadskyy, who is ranked 90th in the world.

Ukraine’s only point of the match came as Larisa Griga beat a brave Elizabeth Cann. Griga, who is ranked 12 places above Cann at No 22 in the world rankings, won 21-15 21-19 in an entertaining match.

However, any thoughts of a Ukrainian revival were put to bed as Chris Adcock and Robert Blair secured the third and decisive point for Team England after their 21-14 21-12 victory against the Ukrainian pair Valery Atrashchenkov and Vladislav Druzchenko in the men’s doubles.

Victorious Blair, winning his 49th cap, was pleased with his team’s performance and sees no reason why they can’t progress to the final. He said: “We worked hard and came through tonight. I think we will be too strong for Poland tomorrow but they have some good male players.”

England will now face Poland in tomorrow’s semi-final, which takes place at 2pm. It will be a rematch of last year's semi-final in which England won 3-0. Poland recorded a 3-1 victory over fifth seeds Netherlands.

Although Poland’s Robert Mateusiak and Kamila Augustyn secured a 21-14 21-9 win, the Dutch duo of Jorrit De Ruiter and Ilse Vaessen were left to rue a string of unforced errors that ultimately cost them the match in the mixed doubles.

However, in the men’s singles Poland did not have it all their way as Przemyslaw Wacha had to fight hard to defeat Eric Pang. Wacha, ranked ninth in the world, combined superb smashes and delicate drop shots in the third game which ultimately won him the match as he ran out 21-15 10-21 21-13 winner.

Netherlands were not to be outdone though as Judith Meulendijks notched up their only victory in the match. The world number 27 was the comprehensive winner against Natalia Pocztowiak as she sealed a 21-9 21-12 win.

Robert Mateusiak took to the court for the second time in the night in the men’s doubles with partner Michal Logosz. Mateusiak was in a devastating mood and Ruud Bosch felt full force of one of his smashes in the face.

Poland rushed ahead in the opening game but the Dutch duo of Bosch and Koen Riddler responded with eight unanswered points. But it was business as usual in the second game as Poland closed play with a 21-15 21-12 win securing their place in tomorrow’s semi-finals.

Russia 3 Germany 2

The Russian mixed doubles pair of Alexander Nikolaenko and Valeri Sorokina took the first game comfortably against Germany’s Johannes Schoettler and Birgit Overzier, who played more consistently in the second game but never threatened their opponents allowing Russia to take the lead 21-11 21-13.

In the singles Mark Zwiebler levelled the match for Germany with a business- like win over Vladimir Malkov 21-9 21-13. Juliane Schenk had to work hard to overcome Russia’s Ella Diehl but eventually came out on top 21-14 21-19 to give Germany the advantage.

Next it was Russia’s turn to level the match when Alexander Nikolaenko and Vitaly Durkin beat Michael Fuchs and Ingo Kinderwater 21-17 21-19 in a fiercely contested men’s doubles.

It was left to the women's doubles to decide the match with the world No 13 pair of Sorokina and Nina Vislova proving too strong for the rare pairing of Birgit Overzier and Xu Huaiwen, beating them 21-10 21-8 to take Russia through to the semi finals.

Denmark 3 France 1

Holders and top seeds Denmark continued their march towards the medals with a 3-1 victory over France.

Jan Jorgensen of Denmark never looked under pressure in the opening game with a 21-13 21-14 victory over the Frenchman Brice Leverdez.

The women's singles followed with France squaring the match at 1-1 as Pi Hongyan easily overcame Nanna Brosolat Jensen 21-9 21-9.

Korean Open winners Mathias Boe and Carsten Mogensen took the men's doubles to make it 2-1 with succinct win over Baptiste Careme and Ronan Labar 21-16 21-11.

World no 1 Tine Rasmussen made another women's doubles appearance, partnering Marie Roepke to clinch the match for the 12-times champions with a 21-12 21-13 win over Laura Choinet and Weny Rahmawati.


So I got a perfect score for my prediction! ;):):D

[limsy]

uncle loh...u can click on the nation name...by doing so...u will be able to see the result...

[etudiant]

a little bit gambling for Tine to play double...but her game play suits her to attack more in doubles....glad it finally paid off...

[Loh]

These are the contenders for a place in final:

1. England v Poland
2. Denmark v Russia

Who will win and in which events? :cool:

England have homecourt advantage, Denmark have always been a favourite, more so now as the title holders.

Both Poland and Russia have been fantastic to make it this far. Both of them are dark horses but will they be able to triumph over their more illustrious opponents?

England's weaker links could be their singles department. Could Poland take advantage and secure a point in the doubles as well? The MD may prove to be too difficult, but what of WD and XD?

Denmark is the Mount Everest, but still can be conquered with a little bit of luck and good weather for the Russians, whose forte seems to be in the doubles. But Denmark's Boe and Mogensen are not Korean Open winners for nothing and many even count them as extremely good candidates for the AE. Russia must win at least a singles match and this is not as insurmountable as even Joachim Persson was beaten by Spain's Pablo Abian, unless Denmark decide to field someone else. Let's hope Tine Rasmussen will not feature in WS, but this may be too much of a hope for Russia.

So all four teams will definitely go all out to secure a place in the final and will showcase their best players.

It will perhaps be the best entertainment for the entire Championships. How I wish I could watch it live! :p

[CLELY]

Quick prediction, the top-two seeds Denmark and England will meet in championship finale...

[george@chongwei]

Quick prediction, the top-two seeds Denmark and England will meet in championship finale...
same here;);)........

[CLELY]

Semifinal 1 : DEN vs RUS (10.00am local time)

XD -- Thomas Laybourn/Kamilla Rytter-Juhl vs Vitaly Durkin/Nina Vislova

MS -- Joachim Persson vs Ivan Sozonov

WS -- Tine Rasmussen vs Ella Diehl

MD -- Mathias Boe/Carsten Mogensen vs Alexander Nikolaenko/Vitaly Durkin

WD -- Marie Roepke/Kamilla Rytter-Juhl vs Valeria Sorokina/Nina Vislova

[limsy]

have live in astro 812...espn...^^...from george sms

[KlasseE]

have live in astro 812...espn...^^...from george sms
available on either sopcast or uusee for sf and finals

[cxytdn]

Den 3:0 Rus .................

[CLELY]

As predicted Denmark booked final ticket, beat Russian team 3-0 through XD, MS and WS.

[Loh]

England are receiving great resistance from Poland with the score tied at 2-2.
England won the XD and WS and Poland took the MS and MD.

Poland's MD of Michal Logosz/Robert Mateusiak did well to beat Nathan Robertson/Anthony Clark 21-18, 21-12. So did Przemyslaw Wacha who also won a point against Andrew Smith 21-11, 22-20.

Thankfully England scored through WS Elizabeth Cann against Kamila Augustyn 11-21, 21-4, 21-9. I think Elizabeth had not performed as well before.

Now the important decider is the WD, and England's Donna Kellogg/Jennifer Wallwork are leading Kamila Augustyn/Malgorzata Kurdelska by 21-12, 14-19 ...
Will Poland be able to win the second game and force the match to a thrilling finish? Donna as well as Kamila had both played a match earlier in XD and WS respectively.

Yes the Polish girls had taken the second game 21-17 to extend the match to a rubber. Maybe they now have a slight edge and England must be on tenterhooks now despite playing at home.

[limsy]

England are receiving great resistance from Poland with the score tied at 2-2.
England won the XD and WS and Poland took the MS and MD.

Poland's MD of Michal Logosz/Robert Mateusiak did well to beat Nathan Robertson/Anthony Clark 21-18, 21-12. So did Przemyslaw Wacha who also won a point against Andrew Smith 21-11, 22-20.

Thankfully England scored through WS Elizabeth Cann against Kamila Augustyn 11-21, 21-4, 21-9. I think Elizabeth had not performed as well before.

Now the important decider is the WD, and England's Donna Kellogg/Jennifer Wallwork is leading Kamila Augustyn/Malgorzata Kurdelska by 21-12, 14-19 ...
Will Poland be able to win the second game and force the match to a thrilling finish? Donna as well as Kamila had both played a match earlier in XD and WS respectively.

my money is on poland...:D...hope so...

[limsy]

poland should have win the ws...then...they already in the final...

[Loh]

The girls are fighting hard point for point, with England leading a point ahead at 8-7.

[Loh]

So far, the English girls scored heavily on smashes but might have lost quite a bit on unforced errors as the Polish girls seemed to have gained many points on "others", presumably from the mistakes of their English opponents.

England are now leading quite comfortably at 13-8 and if they kept up the pressure with their attacking smashes, I'm afraid Poland may have to succumb.

Poland need to change strategy from defence to attack if they hope to win!

[Loh]

Alas, England are now hard to chase leading 18-11, scoring 10 points from smashes against only 1 from Poland.

[limsy]

so close yet so far...salute poland...

[Loh]

Bye bye Poland! Have better luck next year and please polish up your smashes, girls.

Phew! so England just managed to advance to challenge Denmark in tomorrow's final.
Poland missed a golden opportunity by not concentrating on the WS. And in their WD, they were completely outdone by England in the smashing department. England won a total of 23 points from smashes, whereas Poland managed a misery 5 points.

England may not be this lucky tomorrow though!

[etudiant]

Hmm....hard fought victory for Eng....i think Denmark will take the crown easily 2mrw.....

[jsteve]

Bye bye Poland! Have better luck next year and please polish up your smashes, girls.

Phew! so England just managed to advance to challenge Denmark in tomorrow's final.
Poland missed a golden opportunity by not concentrating on the WS. And in their WD, they were completely outdone by England in the smashing department. England won a total of 23 points from smashes, whereas Poland managed a misery 5 points.


At this time and place Poland WAS CONCENTRATED on the WS. In the tie vs ENG in Polish line-up first time during these championships appeared Kamila Augustyn. She has been the best player in this team in singles and doubles.
Of course you are right that generally Poland has not enough concentrated on WS in the last period. They try to improve the situation in the future.
When speaking about MX and WD, do not forget the absence of Nadia Kostiuczyk, the best Polish female doubles player. She was operated because of a hip injury.

[Loh]

At this time and place Poland WAS CONCENTRATED on the WS. In the tie vs ENG in Polish line-up first time during these championships appeared Kamila Augustyn. She has been the best player in this team in singles and doubles.
Of course you are right that generally Poland has not enough concentrated on WS in the last period. They try to improve the situation in the future.
When speaking about MX and WD, do not forget the absence of Nadia Kostiuczyk, the best Polish female doubles player. She was operated because of a hip injury.

Oh how unlucky that Poland was unable to put up the best team. But these things do happen. I'm not sure whether Kamila has played in Southeast Asia before, but I have read of her name and is quite impressed with her performance in Europe. That's why I expected her to beat Elizabeth Cann, who did not perform so well in this tournament.

But Poland must have done well and exceeded their own expectations to become the last four. Congratulations! :)

On the other hand, Poland were third last year and may have to fight Russia today for retaining their position.

As for Russia, they were sixth last year and now they are at least fourth. Which means Russia are the team that have improved more than the others.

However, I'm not sure whether Poland and Russia will play to decide the 3rd and 4th positions as the tournament scores website does not indicate.

[CLELY]

The Finale, Denmark vs England (02.00pm)

XD -- Joachim Fischer Nielsen/Christinna Pedersen vs Anthony Clark/Donna Kellogg

MS -- Joachim Persson vs Andrew Smith

WS -- Tine Rasmussen vs Elizabeth Cann

MD -- Mathias Boe/Carsten Mogensen vs Anthony Clark/Nathan Robertson

WD -- Marie Roepke/Kamilla Rytter-Juhl vs Donna Kellogg/Jenny Wallwork

Absolutely, Danish team is the fave to win the final match...

[Loh]

The Finale, Denmark vs England (02.00pm)

XD -- Joachim Fischer Nielsen/Christinna Pedersen vs Anthony Clark/Donna Kellogg

MS -- Joachim Persson vs Andrew Smith

WS -- Tine Rasmussen vs Elizabeth Cann

MD -- Mathias Boe/Carsten Mogensen vs Anthony Clark/Nathan Robertson

WD -- Marie Roepke/Kamilla Rytter-Juhl vs Donna Kellogg/Jenny Wallwork

Absolutely, Danish team is the fave to win the final match...


Now I hope England will have the entire Liverpool fans to come to the badminton court and cheer their countrymen for a change. :D

Then England, and even Andrew Smith will be inspired beyond belief and Denmark may be totally shocked before they realize it to make any sort of comeback. However to overcome Tine Rasmussen, Elizabeth Cann needs to surmon all her energies plus everything else and still may be found wanting.

I'd say England should take the important inspirational opening XD and 50/50%chances on MS, MD and WD.

Don't give up that easily England and for all you know, the Queen may grace the occasion with the Minister of Sports for that added motivation. Then, maybe even Elizabeth also can. ;)

[george@chongwei]

have live in astro 812...espn...^^...from george sms
thanks for posting it here:)
hehe, when i switch on the tv, when i came acrossed espn, i was wondering..what?? omg..there's badminton on espn!!:D:D hehe..hell yeah:p
well, we need more badmintons on ESPN imo;)

[george@chongwei]

The Finale, Denmark vs England (02.00pm)

XD -- Joachim Fischer Nielsen/Christinna Pedersen vs Anthony Clark/Donna Kellogg

MS -- Joachim Persson vs Andrew Smith

WS -- Tine Rasmussen vs Elizabeth Cann

MD -- Mathias Boe/Carsten Mogensen vs Anthony Clark/Nathan Robertson

WD -- Marie Roepke/Kamilla Rytter-Juhl vs Donna Kellogg/Jenny Wallwork

Absolutely, Danish team is the fave to win the final match...
2day final should be 10pm mas time;)
but astro's schedule says its on 12am:(:rolleyes:

[george@chongwei]

hmm, i must admit that team denmark yesterday played totally briliant badminton.
1st-xd where the denmark team as expected will win the match.
2nd-ms- JP absolutely give the russia ms sozonov no chance at all.
3rd-ws..TR as the world number 1 thrash ella so badly especially in the 2nd set:eek:.anyway, great fight by the russia girl in the 1st set though;)
i must admit that yesterday TR had totally control of the match.:)

[george@chongwei]

The Finale, Denmark vs England (02.00pm)

XD -- Joachim Fischer Nielsen/Christinna Pedersen vs Anthony Clark/Donna Kellogg

MS -- Joachim Persson vs Andrew Smith

WS -- Tine Rasmussen vs Elizabeth Cann

MD -- Mathias Boe/Carsten Mogensen vs Anthony Clark/Nathan Robertson

WD -- Marie Roepke/Kamilla Rytter-Juhl vs Donna Kellogg/Jenny Wallwork

Absolutely, Danish team is the fave to win the final match...
hmm, so no peter gade in the final..
anyway, this 2 nations clash will surely be an exciting one for sure;)

[arowana]

Hopefully ENG can take XD or MD and show good fighting spirit. WD with Donna Kellog can be interesting. But still see no way DK is going to end up second...

[limsy]

i hope england can score 2 points...

[jsteve]

Oh how unlucky that Poland was unable to put up the best team. But these things do happen. I'm not sure whether Kamila has played in Southeast Asia before, but I have read of her name and is quite impressed with her performance in Europe. That's why I expected her to beat Elizabeth Cann, who did not perform so well in this tournament.

But Poland must have done well and exceeded their own expectations to become the last four. Congratulations! :)

On the other hand, Poland were third last year and may have to fight Russia today for retaining their position.

As for Russia, they were sixth last year and now they are at least fourth. Which means Russia are the team that have improved more than the others.

However, I'm not sure whether Poland and Russia will play to decide the 3rd and 4th positions as the tournament scores website does not indicate.
This time there is no match for 3rd place. Anyway, I imagine POL vs RUS a chance 51:49: with WS and WD easy for RUS, MS and MD easy for POL and deciding MX, difficult but rather for POL:).
And you are absolutely right that <i>these things do happen</i>, speaking about the lack of one of best players. For example, last year in Herning Poland won bronze playing without Mateusiak.
One of the problems with Augustyn is that she has not chosen between doubles and singles. It means she was more practising for doubles (strong combination with Kostiuczyk - winner one time Denmark Open) but playing in OG in Beijing WS (looser in 1st round vs Jun Jae Youn, KOR, 15-21 5-21). I was even a bit surprised that she won 1st game vs Cann. But the level Augustyn and Cann is not very different so there was in fact a chance for POL to win WS as you expected.

[Plurbs]

Could someone record the final on setanta and post it some where on the internet today, preferably torrent.

I think my mates a line judge on it today, be good to see them on tv. :)

EDIT: sorry if yers frown against this, thought it couldnt hurt to ask.

[demolidor]

Could someone record the final on setanta and post it some where on the internet today, preferably torrent.

I think my mates a line judge on it today, be good to see them on tv. :)

EDIT: sorry if yers frown against this, thought it couldnt hurt to ask.

I don't see where you all get the idea from it will be live on Setanta. The only thing shown on Setanta will be a 1 or 2 hour highlight on monday.

And you all = you + georgieboy being smart in the video sharing section :p

[Plurbs]

Im sure I remember reading it. I cant find the link though :confused:

sorry, anyone fancy recording the highlights though? :D

[Keios]

http://atdhe.net/live-tv-3286.html this seems to be a working live feed. though the angle isn't the greatest

[Loh]

http://atdhe.net/live-tv-3286.html this seems to be a working live feed. though the angle isn't the greatest

Thanks, at least I saw the first 7 or 8 points being played and Andrew Smith is leading against J Persson! ;)

But now the streaming seems to have stopped and there's a message asking to register. If I don't will I continue to enjoy, I wonder? :(

Well they won't continue for me. I have to close and restart to enjoy a little bit more. And now they are into their second game with Andrew leading 6-1. Andrew must have won the first game, which I missed. If so this must be good news for England.

[jchan04]

http://atdhe.net

still works, im still watching it live and Smith is winning.

[Keios]

it still working for me, andrew leading 11-8 hopefully soon to be 2-0! not that i am biased.....

[jljy91]

ms match is 18-18 now...

[jljy91]

wow...eng team is 2-0 leading denmark now...

[Loh]

I just saw Andrew winning the second game and match for England, 21-19!
Congrats Andrew and England.

Wow, I didn't know that England has won the XD already, which I expected they will win. And now Andrew has won another point to keep England very much alive!

I suppose very few,, except the real fanatics would expect Elizabeth Cann to beat WR1 Tine Rasmussen in the WS, therefore England would still lead by one point. Will Clark and Nathan be able to redeem themselves from their recent loss and overcome the very strong Danish pair of Mathias Boe and Carsten Mogensen to clinch the European title for England?

Possible but left to be seen!

[limsy]

hope they wont waste the lead....:D

[jljy91]

how about tine and elizabeth?
who will win?

[jchan04]

that persson vs smith match was a little sketchy.
near the end of the match, someone in the crowd shouted: out and also there was one very very close line call....

i think tine will win this match

[limsy]

on paper...sure the wr 1...hehe...on court...anything can hapeen..hehe...just like last time...who know mu will lost derby 0-1...keke

[arowana]

bad accident for DK... hard to predict to outcome now... but lot of pressure :cool:

[jchan04]

looks like tine is in control, with a huge lead

[george@chongwei]

I don't see where you all get the idea from it will be live on Setanta. The only thing shown on Setanta will be a 1 or 2 hour highlight on monday.

And you all = you + georgieboy being smart in the video sharing section :p
no, actually i also did saw it somewhere in the net stated that setanta sports will broadcast it. but i forgot the link too.
demolishdor boy, pls forgive me IF i 've given the wrong info here:p

[george@chongwei]

imo, tine will win the match for sure!:)

[jchan04]

so isn't Peter Gade not playing in this? and if Denmark moves on to the International Championships, will he be able to participate?

[george@chongwei]

so isn't Peter Gade not playing in this? and if Denmark moves on to the International Championships, will he be able to participate?
its up to the coach decision whether he will be playing or not in each team event championship;)

[george@chongwei]

well, good thing about thing tournament is that they will measure the shuttle speed in each rally;)
just like the thomas/uber cup and sudirman cup!:)

[jchan04]

oh, so i guess he is just on reserve... and if Denmark succeeds, Gade will probably be put on to face the tougher guys. am i? like he still wins something for being part of the team right?

[etudiant]

wow...just take a look at t.software...and england leads 2-0....denmark really have to dig deeper to win this....

[Loh]

wow...just take a look at t.software...and england leads 2-0....denmark really have to dig deeper to win this....

Well as expected, Denmark reduced their deficit when Tine easily defeated Elizabeth and now Denmark's MD is still leading 18-15. Denmark have to win this MD to get a crack at retaining their title.

[Loh]

Well as expected, Denmark reduced their deficit when Tine easily defeated Elizabeth and now Denmark's MD is still leading 18-15. Denmark have to win this MD to get a crack at retaining their title.

England's MD have levelled by taking back the second game 21-16. Will they be able to bring glory to England by winning the third and final game?

Go, go England. But now it's already 1am in Singapore and I need to retire to get to work tomorrow.

Bye-bye. :)

[mcchooi]

it's really annoying that despite the event being held in the UK, it's not shown on TV :mad:

poot!

tried sopcasst - espn china don't seem to feature on my sports channel list? anyone know why?

[jchan04]

Nathan has bad sportsmanship... he kicked the shuttle!
My gosh.

[jchan04]

try http://atdhe.net/

direct link
http://atdhe.net/live-tv-3286.html

[etudiant]

England's MD have levelled by taking back the second game 21-16. Will they be able to bring glory to England by winning the third and final game?

Go, go England. But now it's already 1am in Singapore and I need to retire to get to work tomorrow.

Bye-bye. :)

it'll be good achievement if England won this tie....lets wait and see....okey good night....

[mcchooi]

thanks j-chan! it's good quality!

[badMania]

so isn't Peter Gade not playing in this? and if Denmark moves on to the International Championships, will he be able to participate?

The Danish coach is probably letting some of the second-stringers have a go. with Joachim Persson, Joachim Fischer-Nielsen/Christinna Pedersen, and Mathias Boe/Carsten Mogensen in the team for the Final matchup. Instead of having the usual lineup Peter Gade, Lars Paaske/Jonas Rasmussen, and Thomas Laybourn/Kamilla Rytter-Juhl. One of the factor could also be that Rytter-Juhl has to play in the decider, so, the coaches let the younger pair compete in the first match (which they eventually lost).

It's now 2-2 as Mathias Boe/Carsten Mogensen beat Nathan Robertson/Anthony Clark and the decider will be between Donna Kellogg/Jenny Wallwork and Marie Roepke/Kamilla Rytter-Juhl.

[limsy]

JFN already 30...is it???badmania???

[jchan04]

The Danish coach is probably letting some of the second-stringers have a go. with Joachim Persson, Joachim Fischer-Nielsen/Christinna Pedersen, and Mathias Boe/Carsten Mogensen in the team for the Final matchup. Instead of having the usual lineup Peter Gade, Lars Paaske/Jonas Rasmussen, and Thomas Laybourn/Kamilla Rytter-Juhl. One of the factor could also be that Rytter-Juhl has to play in the decider, so, the coaches let the younger pair compete in the first match (which they eventually lost).

It's now 2-2 as Mathias Boe/Carsten Mogensen beat Nathan Robertson/Anthony Clark and the decider will be between Donna Kellogg/Jenny Wallwork and Marie Roepke/Kamilla Rytter-Juhl.
but a team is still a team right? even if the players dont participate but are there for support they still get recognized right?



oh! this looks tight, is it early to say that the Denmark women have the control and doing well?

[etudiant]

its about the influence of Juhl or Kellogg to lift up their partner spirit as they kind have lots of experience in this kind of team decider match situation....denmark has slight edge....but england gals playing in front of their crowds....

[klc28]

it still working for me, andrew leading 11-8 hopefully soon to be 2-0! not that i am biased.....

Keios - You da man. Thanks for the link.

I was getting withdrawl symptoms after seeing it in Liverpool on Saturday.

[mcchooi]

english girls completely out-played :mad:

[Swingbadabada]

Ah well the Danes win AGAIN

[jchan04]

DENMARK WON! THEY PULLED THRU good job denmark

[mcchooi]

donna was hogging all the defensive shots! she moved into jenny's side completely in the very last point...clashed racquets and lost the point :confused:

they need to sort their pairing out...it didn't work at all in that match :cool:

[klc28]

Ahh well - All good learning for the future and 2012.

Again, Well done Smiffy against Persson. What a result!!

GO ENGLAND!!

[limsy]

i hope england can score 2 points...

hmm...they did tat...congrates danes...and well done england...hope to see u as a strong nation when 2012 og...:D

[paulstevo]

Just got back from the event..
Was a great finals day..
Smith played very well against Persson..
Think the Men should of finished the final off..
The Last match with the ladies seemed very dis jointed...
Didnt look a good pairing at all...imho..
But anyway well played the Danes..
Team England will get them next time..
Looking forward to the All England now..

[limsy]

Just got back from the event..
Was a great finals day..
Smith played very well against Persson..
Think the Men should of finished the final off..
The Last match with the ladies seemed very dis jointed...
Didnt look a good pairing at all...imho..
But anyway well played the Danes..
Team England will get them next time..
Looking forward to the All England now..

any photo to share with us???:D

[paulstevo]

No photos .
Phone was turned off.. out of respect
Didnt take camera..

[Sealman]

I was pleasantly surprised to find out the men and women doubles matches were telecast live in Singapore on cable tv (ESPN Channel 23) last night. There will be repeat telecasts of the finals and semi-finals this week.

[pjswift]

I was pleasantly surprised to find out the men and women doubles matches were telecast live in Singapore on cable tv (ESPN Channel 23) last night. There will be repeat telecasts of the finals and semi-finals this week.
Actually there's been quite regular badminton coverage on ch 22 and 23.Mostly delayed telecast.The European championships and SS highlights on ch 23(ESPN) with full SS and SC,TC and WC on ch 22.Clear sign of progress for badminton.

[Sealman]

any photo to share with us???:D

found some here:
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66174

[CLELY]

Congratz to Denmark team who wins 8th straight title! And England almost created an upset yesterday when they forced the top-seed hard time in final match, brilliant!

[Loh]

Congratz to Denmark team who wins 8th straight title! And England almost created an upset yesterday when they forced the top-seed hard time in final match, brilliant!

Yes Congrats to Denmark and their impressive MD pair of Boe and Mogensen, who stood to their guns and blasted off Clark and the ever-unsporting Robertson in their final game to allow Denmark's girls to snatch the European crown from England.

Looks like Boe and Mogensen are gearing up pretty well for their forthcoming AE onslaught! ;)

[george@chongwei]

congratulations to denmark for retaining the european badminton team championship;):)
wow, anyway, england did gave a great fight to them yesterday;)

[Loh]

congratulations to denmark for retaining the european badminton team championship;):)
wow, anyway, england did gave a great fight to them yesterday;)

Yes. And one may say that England had also missed a golden opportunity to capture the EU crown just as what Poland had missed beating England the day before.

But from two matches and two points down, Denmark proved they are worthy and resilient champions when they caught up from behind to nip England. The turning point came from their star MD Boe and Mogensen when under tremendous pressure at England's playground, they took back the rubber game to enable Denmark to go on to win in the WD and the title as well.

Poor England must be hurting very badly as they were on the brink of victory in the MD and despite Anthony Clark playing his heart out after expending much energiy in the XD, his partner Robertson was not helping him very much with his unsporting behaviour again. :(

[samuel882]

Denmark will be a great title challenger for china in Sudirman Cup this May.

[limsy]

Denmark will be a great title challenger for china in Sudirman Cup this May.

with JP???:p...hehe...hope gade well soon...

[george@chongwei]

with JP???:p...hehe...hope gade well soon...
well soon??
why? what happen to him? injured?

[limsy]

well soon??
why? what happen to him? injured?

i tot he sick???:confused:...replace by peter mikkelsen???:confused:

[george@chongwei]

i tot he sick???:confused:...replace by peter mikkelsen???:confused:
im not sure though.
where do u get the info that he's sick btw?

[limsy]

im not sure though.
where do u get the info that he's sick btw?

http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65926

[george@chongwei]

http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65926
wish him get well soon then.

[jsteve]

wish him get well soon then.
Isn't this information from April 2008?
Today PG should play in Denmark league vs KJ...

[badders7]

Isn't this information from April 2008?
Today PG should play in Denmark league vs KJ...
Yes that is old info from the Individual European Championships last year. Peter Gade is not sick, he is doing well and preparing for All England.

His match against Kenneth Jonassen in the danish league tonight will be live streamed here: http://tv2sport.dk/node/26784

I dont think its free, but Im not sure.

[limsy]

Yes that is old info from the Individual European Championships last year. Peter Gade is not sick, he is doing well and preparing for All England.

His match against Kenneth Jonassen in the danish league tonight will be live streamed here: http://tv2sport.dk/node/26784

I dont think its free, but Im not sure.

i see...sorry ...:(

[badders7]

i see...sorry ...:(Dont be sorry, just be happy Gade isnt sick :D

[limsy]

Dont be sorry, just be happy Gade isnt sick :D

ya...sure...^^...hehe...

[george@chongwei]

ya...sure...^^...hehe...
imo, he's fully fit and prepare to go all out for the AE now;)

[Plurbs]

Used that stream but later found the espn stream (good tv coverage, good commentary). Used TV ants. It worked really well and I recorded it (using hidownload) until after 4pm when my isp slows my internet down and the stream was very jumpy so missed the last 3 matches...oh well England did loose all of them :rolleyes:

My mate made the tv quite a few times as well :)

Cheers for the help guys. If I could perhaps find when the finals will be repeated on that channel, and if there repeated well before 4pm or well after I will be able to record the whole thing. Shall do some research espn tv guides.

Might watch badminton more often, enjoy the olympics and I enjoyed this (probably more so because I live in Liverpool, really should have gone and watched it).

EDIT: woo, that was quick http://telebisyon.net/programa/ESPN+Singapore/sports/

[kimir]

just watched the repeat telecast of polish girls playing against wallwork/kellog... wallwork played much better than kellog imho... and possess a strong smash... i thought kellog left a lot of gaps in her gameplay