ants
02-05-2009, 03:17 AM
I will just let Yonex do the announcement of the colors and specs. However my review will be coming out soon.
So far its been good... watch out for the REVELATION...
So far its been good... watch out for the REVELATION...
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View Full Version : Yonex Nanospeed 9900 Review ants 02-05-2009, 03:17 AM I will just let Yonex do the announcement of the colors and specs. However my review will be coming out soon. So far its been good... watch out for the REVELATION... jhirata 02-05-2009, 03:24 AM What's after this, NS9999 ? phandrew 02-05-2009, 03:49 AM Now the only issue is the price teoky 02-05-2009, 03:58 AM I thought price is never an issue especially for some of the guys here ? ;p Mark A 02-05-2009, 05:00 AM Ants: PICS PLEASE!!! That is, if the evil empire will let you put them up...:D cliffhu 02-05-2009, 11:02 AM Just became a ns9000x fan recently...curious to see the ns9900... bluecraze07 02-05-2009, 03:07 PM I wanna see some specs and pics :) jymbalaya 02-05-2009, 05:41 PM Thank you ants, cant wait to see the review. YueFei 02-05-2009, 07:22 PM Will be trying to wait patiently for the review...for now, it's back to speculation~:crying: 6 woods 02-05-2009, 08:05 PM Another 25,000 yen for top end racket! Too bad yen is so high... (Almost Cad$380 full retail!, even 30% off $250) 6 woods 02-05-2009, 08:23 PM Look like this ???:confused: Athelete1234 02-05-2009, 08:34 PM Nice try....:D. Pete LSD 02-05-2009, 09:10 PM Looks like a fake :D. phandrew 02-05-2009, 09:32 PM That looks ugly h4n5ip 02-05-2009, 10:35 PM That looks STD = standard. quik_silver 02-05-2009, 11:01 PM where did you find that? ebay? jymbalaya 02-05-2009, 11:06 PM Another 25,000 yen for top end racket! Too bad yen is so high... (Almost Cad$380 full retail!, even 30% off $250) Please tell me you are lying....... so much for getting this one. oh well. maybe i get lucky... Oldhand 02-05-2009, 11:13 PM This thread is premature. The title is misleading too. After all, there's no review yet. ants 02-05-2009, 11:18 PM Thanks for the advice.. there are even more premature threads out there.. try to look for it and feel free to comment. Oldhand 02-05-2009, 11:19 PM Thanks for the advice.. there are even more premature threads out there.. try to look for it and feel free to comment. Of course, I'm looking. That's how I found this. ants 02-05-2009, 11:26 PM Of course, I'm looking. That's how I found this. Oh yeah.. i forgot your the Mod. Good work!. slvrdrgn123 02-06-2009, 02:28 PM I feel juped...where's my review!!! =] Hope it comes soon so I have something to read at work. It's boring here. -_- h4n5ip 02-06-2009, 09:00 PM This thread is actually brought our attention before the review itself has been revealed. Nothing wrong with this thread. I hope Ants will review soon. BadFever 02-06-2009, 09:56 PM This thread is actually brought our attention before the review itself has been revealed. Nothing wrong with this thread. I hope Ants will review soon. Definitely nothing wrong. It's just that someone is trying to seek attention. ;) Athelete1234 02-06-2009, 09:57 PM Ants has done this with his previous threads.....it helps add hype to the racquet he is reviewing...which is definately cool. 6 woods 02-07-2009, 02:22 AM Please tell me you are lying....... so much for getting this one. oh well. maybe i get lucky... 2月24日発売☆予約受付中☆ナノスピード9900 NS9900 ★30%OFF!★ (SIZE:2U4/2U5//3U4/3U5)サイズを選択してください ハイスペックモデル。 カラー:メタルオレンジ フレームのみ \25,000- 17,500(税込18,375) It is the real price in Japan!! Not too sure about the picture....:confused: Danstevens 02-07-2009, 02:33 AM Ants has done this with his previous threads.....it helps add hype to the racquet he is reviewing...which is definately cool. True but he's really getting me excited about the racket and I need a review. Ants, give everyone the review. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry :D But on a serious note, when can we expect to see the review? ants 02-07-2009, 03:16 AM Don't worry guys.. i will deliver the goods. When i say i will deliver i will. Have i ever disappoint you guys before? Im still doing the final details and i don't want to put in the wrong data. Have been using the AT900s and AT700s. So i wouldn't want to put the judgement on the NS9900 so fast. The result might differ. Hope you guys understand. Yes i usually put in the Thread first just in case.. and it is an "unspoken language" in the Marketing world... you can't see.. but you can feel. BadFever : Bro, Probably you are right.. im seeking attention. But do you think i need that? ehhehe For sure the review will be out before the Launch! Danstevens 02-07-2009, 08:39 AM For sure the review will be out before the Launch! Excellent. That was what I wanted to hear. Thanks, ants. BadFever 02-07-2009, 08:40 AM BadFever : Bro, Probably you are right.. im seeking attention. But do you think i need that? ehhehe For sure the review will be out before the Launch! Just kidding la, ants. But somehow I forgotten to put in :p:p:p. Sorry. Melbourne weather is making me not thinking straight today. :o Looking forward to reading your reviews on my next purchase. Please tell me that it's not Pink color and has heart shapes all over the frame...eewwww. :( twobeer 02-07-2009, 10:42 AM Yes i usually put in the Thread first just in case.. and it is an "unspoken language" in the Marketing world... you can't see.. but you can feel. For sure the review will be out before the Launch! It is probably a generally good idea to post your views when you have them, instead of posting your intentions to post your views when you get them :-) my 2 c. /Twobeer ants 02-07-2009, 11:50 AM It is probably a generally good idea to post your views when you have them, instead of posting your intentions to post your views when you get them :-) my 2 c. /Twobeer Thanks for the advice. I will take note of it. just that i would want to post a full review instead of just a view. But thanks. BadFever.. no worries mate... i wasn't thinking well too when i started this thread too.. anyway dont worry about the color. I'm sure you will love it when you get your hands on them one day. Danstevens 02-08-2009, 01:03 PM Thanks for the advice. I will take note of it. just that i would want to post a full review instead of just a view. But thanks. BadFever.. no worries mate... i wasn't thinking well too when i started this thread too.. anyway dont worry about the color. I'm sure you will love it when you get your hands on them one day. Ants, please post it soon, I can hardly contain my excitement. I know you want it to be right and accurate and fair but I just need to know about the racket :D Can you tell me if it's stiff or extra stiff? It has been said there's only one version. Thanks, ants. I'm sure the review will be worth the wait. HaoFung 02-10-2009, 03:31 PM the racket is supposed to be extra stiff Pete LSD 02-10-2009, 03:40 PM How do you know in the first place? the racket is supposed to be extra stiff silentheart 02-10-2009, 03:48 PM I thought your racquet is always extra extra stiff?How do you know in the first place? HaoFung 02-10-2009, 04:10 PM UK Sellers posted in pre-sale info on their website. The racket will be released during the AE so I guess they got the correct info. ants 02-10-2009, 06:18 PM YONEX NanoSpeed 9900 Review Review Date : January – February 2009 Launch Date : Feb 24 2009 Racket Type : Yonex NanoSpeed 9900 Specs : 3UG4 Strings: Yonex Nanogy98 ( Supplied ) Tension: 30lbs , 1 Piece Stringing Stringing Machine : Yonex ESPRO Technology : Nanoscale Technology, Elastic-Ti (GuMMetal) , High Modulus Graphite ,Solid Feel Core + Special Fullerene Grip: Original Grip Shuttle Used: Yonex Official and Yonex Tournament First Impression: I have not been receiving a lot of samples lately from the “Evil Empire” as some who have quoted about Y Company. But when they deliver, they really deliver. With the latest batch of goodies, one item that strikes my eyes when the box is open is this piece of racket, which I’ve summoned to do something about it. Curiously and delicately I open the piece of plastic. I feel somehow like a child receiving a Christmas or Birthday gift. So in my heart I must be thinking... hey this must be the latest NS9000 series that I’ve been told before. True to it looking at the logo on the shaft and grip “NanoSpeed9900”!. It confirmed my excitement. At least now I have some toys to try out. As I’ve mentioned before in my old Review on NS9000 X/S. I don’t like their color initially. But then it grew on you eventually. Probably it’s the vision of the designer to make the NS9000 stands out and have a “Futuristic” look. But then the NS9900 looks much better than its predecessor I would say. After using Armortec900 and Armortec700 for sometime. I’ve decided to switch back to NS9000 in order to adapt to the weight balance of the NS9900 before I do the post mortem of the specimen. It feels comfortable when I handle the racket. Seems to feels at home whenever I use a genuine high-end racket. The weight balances well with a tiny head heavy feel even when it’s a head light racket. Stringing Impression: This racket is easy to string. I don’t see much movement of the racket frame when it is pulled at 30lbs on both main and the cross. It really feels solid. Technically this racket can be strung up to 38lbs based on the unofficial report. So I think that there is a improvement on the durability. Warm Ups: I love the flex of this racket. Mixture of Stiff to Extra Stiff when I hit the shuttle. Probably it’s the feel of a new racket. Everything is so crisp. Swing wise is not as hard as compare to the NS9000 X/S. Probably because of the design of the racket frame. During initial hits, I did feel some vibration. Nevertheless it does not interfere with the control of the shuttlecock as well as the fine touches. Baseline to baseline hits is easy, as I do not need to “force” hit it. Overall, smashes seem bit more powerful but drives need a little effort. The racket head seems to move faster with the swing. Game Time: I like the way of the racket movement when I swing. When it passes thru the air I don’t feel much drag compare with the rest of the NS rackets. Even it’s a head light racket, you can feel the precision and the touch of the shuttle. The placement of the shuttles around the court is without much effort. The delivery of the signal from the frame to my brain seems much clearer when I was executing drops and net play. However I was not so happy when come to flat drives, the racket needs more of my effort to produce the momentum when returning back the shuttles. However the maneuverability of the racket is easy and fast even when comes to doubles play. I’m satisfy with the overall performance. Smashing power and hit feel wise does reminds me of the AT900 Technique which surprises me since NS9900 is a head light racket. Long drives is good and I can execute them with much ease even when I’m tired. Less drag does makes a lot of difference when comes to performance. I love the handling of the racket during returning smashes. However I have to be more careful to adjust the power as so the shuttle won’t fly over the baseline. Defense wise this racket is excellent. Conclusion: Its been almost 3 years since the last Nanospeed 9000 series and Yonex has been working diligently as well as going thru the fine details and specs into producing this latest piece of Technology. NS9900 boast to have the fastest racket head swing compare with the rest of the NS Series. Technical wise thus produce more power in the smashes and drives. For those who fancy Yonex NanoSpeed Series. NS9900 will be another breakthrough in terms of technology, design as well and its usability on court. Durability of the racket frame is enhanced thus making this racket more long lasting on court and as well as holding high tension and frequent stringing. For the advance players, I would suggest to use a 2U specs instead as generally 2U rackets is more durable therefore your racket will probably last longer for the regular play with high tension string. Not that 3Us spec is not good, some may find 2Us too heavy for them to use. For those who is looking for an upgrade from NS9000 S/X to NS9900…this is the time to do so. Definitely you will not regret making the decision. As to quote this racket … “moves like a butterfly sting like a bee” as it strikes like a head heavy racket and easy on handling. Yet again Yonex and its R&D team has always made the best racket there is in Badminton. This time with the arrival of NS9900 your game won’t feel the same again! I would rate this racket in terms of Feel, Control, Power and Defense. However it is based on my own test and review. It may vary depending on the player, tension and what string you use. Feel: 9.5/10 Control: 9.5/10 Power: 9/10 Defense: 9/10 Maneuverability: 9/10 Pros: Design,Technology, Fast Racket Speed, Durability, Good control and Maneuverability Cons: Price Suitability: Intermediate/Advance. Singles/Doubles Players Ants bluecraze07 02-10-2009, 06:25 PM Thanks for the great review. Do you have any pictures? I'm also curios. How do you have connections with Yonex for them to let you do testing on new products? :) tcy148 02-10-2009, 06:31 PM EXCELLENT review!!!! I'm sooo excited to see what the finished product looks like!!! This seems to be the ultimate racquet! - Power and head speed all in one?!! amazing! BTW... if anyone is interested - tennisnuts is already accepting pre-orders for the NS9900. They are expecting them to arrive sometime in March. 77suns 02-10-2009, 06:38 PM First to thanks Ants for the great review. Is NS9900 is more heavy head than NS9000S? twobeer 02-10-2009, 07:08 PM Thx for the review Ants! I Enjoyed reading it. However it kind of lead me to more questions than it answered :-) (But YY here has already promised me an early ex of the racket right after official release). Anyway The review raised some questions, that I hope, you can answer. You say headlight.. Headlight as in more headlight than 9000X? More headlight than NS7K? please give some refrences with other rackets, otherwise it is really hard to make some conclusions about the racket based on the review :-) According to your scores, I understand your view is that the NS9000 is better or equal to ARC-10 in all department, so it should easilly be the best Yonex racket overall?!?! In your opinion, correct? ARC-10 Feel: 9.5/10 Control: 9.5/10 Power: 9/10 Defense: 8.5/10 Maneuverability: 8.5/10 NS-9900 Feel: 9.5/10 Control: 9.5/10 Power: 9/10 Defense: 9/10 Maneuverability: 9/10 I am also abit confused about your comments about the power, you compare it to be equal to AT900T in the power department, but you rated the 900T below NS9900 and ARC-10 in your scores?!? AT-900T Feel: 9/10 Control: 9/10 Power: 8.5/10 Defense: 9.5/10 I don't get it.. Do you feel the Power is equal to 900T or ARC-10?? How would you rate the stiffness relative to NS9KX,S,ARC10,ARC9 ? Cheers, Twobeer ants 02-10-2009, 07:30 PM Good and excellent questions Twobeer.. i just Pmed u my answers to your question. I hope its satisfactory to you. :) If further questions from other guys... you can just PM me. This is a review thread.. not a Q and A thread. phandrew 02-10-2009, 07:59 PM Excellent review Ants but i am unlikely going to buy it since i love my budget rackets i currently have. ants 02-10-2009, 08:04 PM For this time i will put the answer here. As for the score.. the rule here is that you must not compare it directly to other rackets as its has their own individuality. That is like comparison already. I wouldnt want to compare the result with other rackets. For example..... AT900T Effort 7 Power Output 9. NS9900 Effort 6.5 Power Output 9. Therefore here NS9900 is a more powerful racket. This is just for example only Not necessary true. Overall it might be the best racket.. i say MIGHT. But also depends on the player, tension and what string you use. I might say AT900 Power is the best.. but some might say AT700 or Arc10 is the best. But then i think this is great racket to use. I dont rate the rackets based on the results with other rackets. I rate them individually. No one racket is superior than the rest. If it is.. then most Pros will just use one model of racket. As in headlight... NS9900 feels slightly lighter than NS9000. h4n5ip 02-10-2009, 08:44 PM Thank you for your review and explanation. Looking forward to seeing the color of the racket. sifuyono 02-10-2009, 09:26 PM i love fast racquet ....... Athelete1234 02-10-2009, 09:27 PM Cool. I'll look out for it when I visit a shop or see somebody using it. jymbalaya 02-10-2009, 09:31 PM Thanks ants. it seems like a great racket. I cant wait to try it. MusclePower100 02-10-2009, 10:19 PM Hey Ants, how does the NS9900 compare to the NS8000? quik_silver 02-10-2009, 10:34 PM and pics? thanks ant ants 02-10-2009, 11:30 PM I wish i can post the pics... just wait for the Official Launch. :) quik_silver 02-11-2009, 12:03 AM hahah it's okay, i'll wait patiently Danstevens 02-11-2009, 01:24 AM Thanks for that, ants. You're like FedEX, you always deliver :D. Great review and I now think I shall be getting one (hopefully 2U). drifit 02-11-2009, 01:48 AM This thread is premature. The title is misleading too. After all, there's no review yet. maybe due to long break of holidays, some other hiccup, now just read through this thread. this is the post on the month.....:p:D nevertheless, thanks for the guy who write the review. ;) Gold- 02-11-2009, 08:45 AM ants since u said there is some vibration will it be enough to injure the elbow or wrist when we hit hard? ants 02-11-2009, 08:49 AM Just a little vibration.. it will not hurt at all. Probably some may not even notice it. Dreamzz 02-11-2009, 09:39 AM i'm keen to see what it looks like. now that GL is not being sponsored by yonex no more, i wonder who's going to be the guinea pig at the AE. Makunouchi 02-11-2009, 10:08 AM Hi Ants! Regarding its price would be more expensive compared to Arc 10 when it first came out? Danstevens 02-11-2009, 10:10 AM Hi Ants! Regarding its price would be more expensive compared to Arc 10 when it first came out? I'd imagine it'll be a similar price to the other top of the range Yonex rackets. Maybe ants can tell us more. Oldhand 02-11-2009, 10:19 AM i'm keen to see what it looks like. now that GL is not being sponsored by yonex no more, i wonder who's going to be the guinea pig at the AE. Gao Ling wasn't using the Nanospeed 9000. The three well-known users were Xie Xingfang, Park Sung-Hwan and Jens Eriksen. I use 'were' because China and Korea have now moved on to other sponsors and Uncle Eriksen might call it a day any moment now. That leaves Kendrick Lee... and he has all but given up competitive badminton. Yes, as you said, it will be interesting to see who wields this souped-up version at the All England and Swiss Open tournaments ;) taneepak 02-11-2009, 10:30 AM It will be interesting to find some of this year's AE winners wearing and playing with Li Ning or Victor shirts/shoes. That will take away some of the thunder that Yonex always makes at the AE with new racquets, etc. It won't be long before we get a Li Ning "Ants" or a Victor "Ants" to give us more reviews or rather previews of "Make in China" racquets, shoes, etc.;) Oldhand 02-11-2009, 10:34 AM Yonex stockists in the UK have pegged the launch price at GBP 170. They must be working on the basis of an official Yonex price-list. See this page (http://www.yonexshop.co.uk/p.php?c=NanoSpeed_Rackets) :) Script 02-11-2009, 02:36 PM I think it's gonna be red. Isegrim 02-11-2009, 03:12 PM dont think so the top arcsaber-racket is also red... so the top nanospeed racket wont be like this i would like a light green :) YY_PLAYER 02-11-2009, 03:47 PM The specs of the NS9900: Head Shape: Isometric - Slim Head Flex: Extra Stiff Construction: High Modules Graphite + Fullerene Technologies: X-Fullerene Balance: Head Light Color: Metal-Orange MusclePower100 02-11-2009, 06:39 PM hey ants, how does the 9900 feel compared to the 8000? Oldhand 02-11-2009, 06:42 PM The new racquet has the same colour scheme as the Yonex announcement (http://www.yonex.co.jp/badminton/products/ns9900/main.html) :) Script 02-11-2009, 08:57 PM Ahh, close to red but not quite. >_> Badmintan 02-12-2009, 12:04 AM The specs of the NS9900: Head Shape: Isometric - Slim Head Flex: Extra Stiff Construction: High Modules Graphite + Fullerene Technologies: X-Fullerene Balance: Head Light Color: Metal-Orange Hey Ants, Is it true it's extra stiff? So the racquet can be said to be an improved NS9000X with better durability? Is that correct? That'll be awesome. :D george@chongwei 02-12-2009, 01:01 AM thanks for the wonderful review , ants. i had already pmed u;) umm, looks like your pm are full. i had this error when sending u a pm. ants has exceeded their stored private messages quota and can not accept further messages until they clear some space. WhangYang 02-13-2009, 07:20 AM I don't get the picture on it here, someone can try i please? http://img16.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ns9900ky6.jpg YY_PLAYER 02-13-2009, 09:18 AM I don't see the picture? How is that posible? I'm curieus now what do you want to let see to us??? Oldhand 02-13-2009, 10:19 AM Here's the picture: Oldhand 02-13-2009, 10:24 AM For a larger, detailed view, see the link provided by WhangYang. Dreamzz 02-13-2009, 10:47 AM looks good, can anyone officially confirm that this is what it really looks like? issarakaya 02-13-2009, 11:09 AM looks like candy :D Oldhand 02-13-2009, 11:42 AM looks good, can anyone officially confirm that this is what it really looks like? Um, let's say we have good reason to trust WhangYang :) silentheart 02-13-2009, 11:50 AM Dear Panda the wishful thinking, This might be the perfect racquet you were looking for when we spoke a while ago. ice man 02-13-2009, 12:38 PM Nice color scheme even if I still prefer the one of the AT 900P. Anyway it's in my opinion way more conservative than the paintjob of the NS 9k cooler 02-13-2009, 01:42 PM it look devilish evil:D Danstevens 02-13-2009, 01:58 PM it look devilish evil:D Awesome looking racket. I hope it looks like that when it comes out. twobeer 02-13-2009, 03:18 PM I am not to excited about the design :-) reminds pretty much of the good ol ISO ti SP ( http://www.bbeshop.com/image1ra/ra_iso_ti_sw_po_red_jp.jpg ) /Twobeer silentheart 02-13-2009, 03:32 PM I am not to excited about the design :-) reminds pretty much of the good ol ISO ti SP ( http://www.bbeshop.com/image1ra/ra_iso_ti_sw_po_red_jp.jpg ) /Twobeer Just a side note. My wife tried out RDiS300 the other day. First impression before using the racquet, "Damn, it is an ugly racquet". After she hit around about 1 hr, her first sentence is "It is a damn UGLY racquet". She hit the tennis ball very well with that racquet. She did not even care about how the RDiS300 perform... NS9900 has almost the same graphic except it is in white. On the other hand, the new RDiS100 look much better. It is in red... twobeer 02-13-2009, 03:43 PM Just a side note. My wife tried out RDiS300 the other day. First impression before using the racquet, "Damn, it is an ugly racquet". After she hit around about 1 hr, her first sentence is "It is a damn UGLY racquet". She hit the tennis ball very well with that racquet. She did not even care about how the RDiS300 perform... NS9900 has almost the same graphic except it is in white. On the other hand, the new RDiS100 look much better. It is in red... The RDiS100, just look like an ArcSabre 10 Clone :D :p /Twobeer YueFei 02-13-2009, 04:42 PM I am not to excited about the design :-) reminds pretty much of the good ol ISO ti SP ( http://www.bbeshop.com/image1ra/ra_iso_ti_sw_po_red_jp.jpg ) /Twobeer That was the first thought that came into my head too. :p Personally, for the ISO TI SP, I like the original paint job- a mix of black, silver, blue and gold- a lot better: http://yonex.ru/images/rs_iso_ti_sp.jpg (Sorry for the puny image; it was the best that I could find) But IMO, if I had to choose based on aesthetics between the NS9K and NS9900, I would hands down go with the NS9900. :D Thanks you Ants for your review. Gemcat 02-13-2009, 04:55 PM NS9900 looks awesome and from ants feel about it, it certainly can be a very nice racquet. I shall give it a go once I get my hands on it. Oh yes, what about the stringing pattern? From what I've seen it looks like the specific pattern of a NS9000x/s. twobeer 02-13-2009, 06:07 PM But IMO, if I had to choose based on aesthetics between the NS9K and NS9900, I would hands down go with the NS9900. :D Vould not agree more with ýou on that :) /TB YueFei 02-13-2009, 06:26 PM Vould not agree more with ýou on that :) /TB The decals at the bottom of the frame look too much like lollipop to you? :D quik_silver 02-13-2009, 07:02 PM wow ns9900 looks like a old school racquet =\ yonex ran out of design ideas? twobeer 02-13-2009, 07:22 PM The decals at the bottom of the frame look too much like lollipop to you? :D Yes, definitvely.. In Sweden there is a candy called "Polkagris".. That kind of what I first associated to.. :D h4n5ip 02-13-2009, 07:34 PM They put the AT900P color (down frame) to be up frame. And true the down frame is just like lolipop. I don't think is a good combination, too much swivel color on head and down frame. But if the playability is good, does color matter? :rolleyes: cooler 02-13-2009, 08:15 PM all thsoe swirls, stripes, and mixed patterns are mostly meant to increase difficulty to copy original exactly. YueFei 02-13-2009, 08:28 PM Yes, definitvely.. In Sweden there is a candy called "Polkagris".. That kind of what I first associated to.. :D :eek: You probably don't want people to look at your racket and immediately associate it with that... all thsoe swirls, stripes, and mixed patterns are mostly meant to increase difficulty to copy original exactly. Haha, now buyers can count the number of stripes to determine whether or not a racket is authentic. :p Well, I guess I prefer symmetry, and the colors on this racket are more menacing than "bling" compared to NS9K. But I can definitely do with fewer swirls. Athelete1234 02-13-2009, 08:28 PM Looks pretty badass, compared to the NS9000 series which looked more friendly and tame. Lately all of the new NS series racquets look more aggressive, with darker colours compared to before when they were all bright and silverish. quik_silver 02-13-2009, 09:17 PM Yes, definitvely.. In Sweden there is a candy called "Polkagris".. That kind of what I first associated to.. :D WOAH HAWTTTT :D silentheart 02-13-2009, 10:23 PM Dear Master TB, You are gooooood..... I am not worthy........ Your girlfriend's biggest fan! twobeer 02-14-2009, 10:52 AM Just looked at some Tennis on TV... Look at the HEAD racket Mauresmo is using.. hmm.... Danstevens 02-14-2009, 12:23 PM Just looked at some Tennis on TV... Look at the HEAD racket Mauresmo is using.. hmm.... What, master twobeer? Are you implying Yonex "borrowed" ideas from Head for that new tennis racket (RDiS or something) and NS9.9K? YY_PLAYER 02-15-2009, 02:57 AM The colors of the Head en the number from WINEX NanoTec 9900 hahaha http://www.badmintonwarehouse.com/v/vspfiles/photos/RWN9900-2.jpg Danstevens 02-15-2009, 05:03 AM The colors of the Head en the number from WINEX NanoTec 9900 hahaha Apacs had a model with 9900 in its name but that looks nothing like the NS9.9K either. Mark A 02-17-2009, 06:51 AM Wow, this is one ugly racket - looks like a stick of Blackpool rock! Thing is I'll still probably end up buying one:o, and it might come to grow on me anyway (like the new BMW 5-Series). Danstevens 02-17-2009, 12:26 PM Wow, this is one ugly racket - looks like a stick of Blackpool rock! Thing is I'll still probably end up buying one:o, and it might come to grow on me anyway (like the new BMW 5-Series). Am I the only one that loves the way it looks? Matt 02-17-2009, 12:54 PM Lol! color does not matter!! Danstevens 02-17-2009, 12:57 PM Lol! color does not matter!! True but it is nice to have a nice looking racket and I was just saying, everyone seems to dislike the way it looks. As you say though, how it plays is the most important thing. shot3gun 02-17-2009, 04:59 PM hey ants, how does this racket compare to the arcsaber 10? Is the 9900 a hard racket to use? what07 02-17-2009, 05:53 PM I think it looks totally fine. Sure color is important on the court, especially if you wanna get notice from faraway but when your swinging the thing it's gonna all blend togther. YueFei 02-17-2009, 07:46 PM Am I the only one that loves the way it looks? Are you referring to the new racket, or the new 5 series GT concept? In the case of the racket, I do like it; in the case of the car, I think that will take some time of getting used to~ :rolleyes: Danstevens 02-18-2009, 03:12 AM I think it looks totally fine. Sure color is important on the court, especially if you wanna get notice from faraway but when your swinging the thing it's gonna all blend togther. Good. I am not alone :D Are you referring to the new racket, or the new 5 series GT concept? In the case of the racket, I do like it; in the case of the car, I think that will take some time of getting used to~ :rolleyes: The racket. Glad you like it too. ants 02-18-2009, 03:20 AM I don't get the picture on it here, someone can try i please? http://img16.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ns9900ky6.jpg Whoever did the picture.. did a good job and creating and very imaginative. ;) issarakaya 02-18-2009, 06:42 AM ^ so? it's not true? the color? thanks GOD hehehehehehehe andyid02 02-18-2009, 07:58 AM Whoever did the picture.. did a good job and creating and very imaginative. ;) Hahaa hope ANTS is right after so many being negative about its colour :D Matt 02-18-2009, 11:56 AM If the person was color blind, color would not mean anything. As my joke. What if someone used an ugly colored racket and won against a person using a nice colored racket? Then what ROFL!?!?! cooler 02-18-2009, 12:12 PM If the person was color blind, color would not mean anything. As my joke. What if someone used an ugly colored racket and won against a person using a nice colored racket? Then what ROFL!?!?! yes it does matter. Have u tried playing in a gym with white or off white colored walls, and ceiling? Matt 02-18-2009, 12:33 PM yes it does matter. Have u tried playing in a gym with white or off white colored walls, and ceiling? Yes I have at community centers before with white/off white color walls and ceilings. The comment I made about color is referring to the racket's color. If the person was color blind, color would not mean anything. what07 02-18-2009, 04:25 PM I guess we should make custom logos like coat of arms on our racquets. That would be cool. ants 02-18-2009, 06:28 PM I'm sure a guy like LinDan can win anyone if he uses a pink racket. I do agree that color is important.. it give us a "GOOD FEEL". Tsumaranai 02-18-2009, 08:34 PM If the person was color blind, color would not mean anything. As my joke. What if someone used an ugly colored racket and won against a person using a nice colored racket? Then what ROFL!?!?! I'm sure that color would still matter. Even if they don't see the "right" color, it'd still have some impact. No one sees the same hue/shade of color anyway. Tsumaranai 02-18-2009, 10:04 PM Mybadmintonstore was taking pre-orders, but that ends today/tonight. The price listed is $245 USD for the JP version, $10 more than for the JP-coded Armortec 900s and ARC 9/10. Matt 02-19-2009, 12:50 AM I'm sure that color would still matter. Even if they don't see the "right" color, it'd still have some impact. No one sees the same hue/shade of color anyway. Yes that is true. My point is more directed to, oh this color is beautiful/ugly debate of the racket. |R|S 02-19-2009, 03:26 AM looks like a cheap ashway/sintec/etc racket. not something yy would come up with. then again... remember the silver/red shoes? and the grey one too... maybe they're just trying out new fashion. thambert 02-20-2009, 11:09 PM just saw this at the japan yonex webby. Its does somehow look like a candy n looks the same to the picture posted earlier. i find it rather nice though :) http://www.yonex.co.jp/badminton/products/ns9900/main.html enjoy ncoderacket 02-20-2009, 11:29 PM looks not good,i dont like the color Oldhand 02-21-2009, 01:23 AM just saw this at the japan yonex webby. Its does somehow look like a candy n looks the same to the picture posted earlier. i find it rather nice though :) http://www.yonex.co.jp/badminton/products/ns9900/main.html enjoy Even Doubting Thomases should find the following self-explanatory ;) Here's the picture: [...]http://img16.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ns9900ky6.jpg looks good, can anyone officially confirm that this is what it really looks like? Um, let's say we have good reason to trust WhangYang :) Danstevens 02-21-2009, 02:11 AM just saw this at the japan yonex webby. Its does somehow look like a candy n looks the same to the picture posted earlier. i find it rather nice though :) http://www.yonex.co.jp/badminton/products/ns9900/main.html enjoy Thanks for the link. Gorgeous racket. jhirata 02-21-2009, 03:11 AM Click the link on the right hand bottom corner of that yonex site link of the ns9900. you'll see that the ns9k's not in the racquet speed vs head-balance chart so it will be discontinued. Same price as NS9k. Matt 02-21-2009, 05:02 AM just saw this at the japan yonex webby. Its does somehow look like a candy n looks the same to the picture posted earlier. i find it rather nice though :) http://www.yonex.co.jp/badminton/products/ns9900/main.html enjoy http://www.yonex.com/swf/ns9900/main.html English version here as well. TheRisingX 02-21-2009, 02:58 PM i love how it looks. sort of reminds me of my iso ti sp pickles8768 02-21-2009, 04:42 PM wow thats such a sweet colour, its very tempting after retiring my ns9000S and switching to a woven 7, i always miss the sound the nanospeeds make Athelete1234 02-21-2009, 05:57 PM Notice how LCW is the model of the NS9900....probably cause Yonex knows they might not be able to keep LD much longer... Danstevens 02-22-2009, 03:00 AM Notice how LCW is the model of the NS9900....probably cause Yonex knows they might not be able to keep LD much longer... Or maybe they just couldn't prise the AT700 from his hands. Resistor 02-22-2009, 05:41 AM Notice how LCW is the model of the NS9900....probably cause Yonex knows they might not be able to keep LD much longer... Probably LCW is no 1 in the world now. Badmintan 02-22-2009, 08:49 PM From far, NS9900 looks like AT900P. Need minimal photoshop touch up by Yonex.:D since LCW is using AT900P Athelete1234 02-22-2009, 08:51 PM Or maybe they just couldn't prise the AT700 from his hands. Well LD was one of the poster people for AT900P but never switched either. Danstevens 02-23-2009, 01:22 AM Well LD was one of the poster people for AT900P but never switched either. Very true. Anyway, the Nanospeed 9900 comes out tomorrow doesn't it? drifit 02-23-2009, 01:27 AM alrite........!! tomorrow is the launching date for Ns9900. we can have some photos to see here!! ants, please dont tell us that you dont have that racket nor the photos...;) Dreamzz 02-23-2009, 04:46 AM gotta admit, i do like the looks of it. not too sure i buy into all that technology mumbo jumbo. credit to yonex for trying though. xiaoheng 02-23-2009, 05:33 AM 24 of Feb is the launch date... does that means in singapore also the same date launch or will be a delay like few days or weeks later?:) teoky 02-23-2009, 06:50 AM So far, it seems Singapore are a few weeks behind. That was the case for the ArcSaber. Oldhand 02-23-2009, 08:44 AM It will be available in Singapore this week :) weeyeh 02-23-2009, 08:14 PM It will be available in Singapore this week :) Can we count on you showing up with the eye candy soon? Sealman 02-23-2009, 09:43 PM http://www.yonex.com/swf/ns9900/main.html specs indicate 'extra stiff'. nice! Badmintan 02-23-2009, 09:47 PM specs indicate 'extra stiff'. nice! Ho-seh-lah...huat-lah. [dancing for joy]:D XLR88 02-23-2009, 09:59 PM he he he lets count down ha ha haha a h ants 02-23-2009, 11:04 PM You guys is going to enjoy it. Trust me :) phandrew 02-24-2009, 12:41 AM MBS is now selling the NS9900 SP and IP http://www.mybadmintonstore.com/shop/product_info.php?products_id=671 Danstevens 02-24-2009, 01:19 AM Still not on the Yonex UK website. Thanks for the MBS link. maa2003 02-24-2009, 03:37 AM 24 of Feb is the launch date... does that means in singapore also the same date launch or will be a delay like few days or weeks later?:) my friend just checked at Sunrise ...... it is SGD 529 :eek::eek::eek: Dreamzz 02-24-2009, 04:13 AM sunrise always sells at the RRP, right? i'm sure it'll be much cheaper than that, sgd529 is ridiculous. LouisW 02-24-2009, 04:47 AM ok, i received a quote and it is definately more than SGD$300-00. Reliable source !!!!!! hola4 02-24-2009, 05:53 AM I saw some new nanospeed series and armortec series rackets at Sportlink(AMK center). Didn't get to see the "9900".:D pickles8768 02-24-2009, 06:39 AM this was posted by ants on the badders forum on feb 11th. :D YONEX NanoSpeed 9900 Review Review Date : January – February 2009 Launch Date : Feb 24 2009 Racket Type : Yonex NanoSpeed 9900 Specs : 3UG4 Strings: Yonex Nanogy98 ( Supplied ) Tension: 30lbs , 1 Piece Stringing Stringing Machine : Yonex ESPRO Technology : Nanoscale Technology, Elastic-Ti (GuMMetal) , High Modulus Graphite ,Solid Feel Core + Special Fullerene Grip: Original Grip Shuttle Used: Yonex Official and Yonex Tournament First Impression: I have not been receiving a lot of samples lately from the “Evil Empire” as some who have quoted about Y Company. But when they deliver, they really deliver. With the latest batch of goodies, one item that strikes my eyes when the box is open is this piece of racket, which I’ve summoned to do something about it. Curiously and delicately I open the piece of plastic. I feel somehow like a child receiving a Christmas or Birthday gift. So in my heart I must be thinking... hey this must be the latest NS9000 series that I’ve been told before. True to it looking at the logo on the shaft and grip “NanoSpeed9900”!. It confirmed my excitement. At least now I have some toys to try out. As I’ve mentioned before in my old Review on NS9000 X/S. I don’t like their color initially. But then it grew on you eventually. Probably it’s the vision of the designer to make the NS9000 stands out and have a “Futuristic” look. But then the NS9900 looks much better than its predecessor I would say. After using Armortec900 and Armortec700 for sometime. I’ve decided to switch back to NS9000 in order to adapt to the weight balance of the NS9900 before I do the post mortem of the specimen. It feels comfortable when I handle the racket. Seems to feels at home whenever I use a genuine high-end racket. The weight balances well with a tiny head heavy fee even when it’s a head light racket. Stringing Impression: This racket is easy to string. I don’t see much movement of the racket frame when it is pulled at 30lbs on both main and the cross. It really feels solid. Technically this racket can be strung up to 38lbs based on the unofficial report. So I think that there is a improvement on the durability. Warm Ups: I love the flex of this racket. Mixture of Stiff to Extra Stiff when I hit the shuttle. Probably it’s the feel of a new racket. Everything is so crisp. Swing wise is not as hard as compare to the NS9000 X/S. Probably because of the design of the racket frame. During initial hits, I did feel some vibration. Nevertheless it does not interfere with the control of the shuttlecock as well as the fine touches. Baseline to baseline hits is easy, as I do not need to “force” hit it. Overall, smashes seem bit more powerful but drives need a little effort. The racket head seems to move faster with the swing. Game Time: I like the way of the racket movement when I swing. When it passes thru the air I don’t feel much drag compare with the rest of the NS rackets. Even it’s a head light racket, you can feel the precision and the touch of the shuttle. The placement of the shuttles around the court is without much effort. The delivery of the signal from the frame to my brain seems much clearer when I was executing drops and net play. However I was not so happy when come to flat drives, the racket needs more of my effort to produce the momentum when returning back the shuttles. However the maneuverability of the racket is easy and fast even when comes to doubles play. I’m satisfy with the overall performance. Smashing power and hit feel wise does reminds me of the AT900 Technique which surprises me since NS9900 is a head light racket. Long drives is good and I can execute them with much ease even when I’m tired. Less drag does makes a lot of difference when comes to performance. I love the handling of the racket during returning smashes. However I have to be more careful to adjust the power as so the shuttle won’t fly over the baseline. Defense wise this racket is excellent. Conclusion: Its been almost 3 years since the last Nanospeed 9000 series and Yonex has been working diligently as well as going thru the fine details and specs into producing this latest piece of Technology. NS9900 boast to have the fastest racket head swing compare with the rest of the NS Series. Technical wise thus produce more power in the smashes and drives. For those who fancy Yonex NanoSpeed Series. NS9900 will be another breakthrough in terms of technology, design as well and its usability on court. Durability of the racket frame is enhanced thus making this racket more long lasting on court and as well as holding high tension and frequent stringing. For the advance players, I would suggest to use a 2U specs instead as generally 2U rackets is more durable therefore your racket will probably last longer for the regular play with high tension string. Not that 3Us spec is not good, some may find 2Us too heavy for them to use. For those who is looking for an upgrade from NS9000 S/X to NS9900…this is the time to do so. Definitely you will not regret making the decision. As to quote this racket … “moves like a butterfly sting like a bee” as it strikes like a head heavy racket and easy on handling. Yet again Yonex and its R&D team has always made the best racket there is in Badminton. This time with the arrival of NS9900 your game won’t feel the same again! I would rate this racket in terms of Feel, Control, Power and Defense. However it is based on my own test and review. It may vary depending on the player, tension and what string you use. Feel: 9.5/10 Control: 9.5/10 Power: 9/10 Defense: 9/10 Maneuverability: 9/10 Pros: Design,Technology, Fast Racket Speed, Durability, Good control and Maneuverability Cons: Price Suitability: Intermediate/Advance. Singles/Doubles Players Ants z3048018 02-24-2009, 07:22 AM got mine strung up today!!!! looking forward to trying it out on friday. in my opinion, the "lollipop" is equivalent to the Arcsaber10 in weight teoky 02-24-2009, 07:24 AM I am currently in HK and I saw the NS9900 and also the new series of AT ! It is already available here ! The AT600 really looks a the AT900 technique and also I do prefer the color scheme of the NS9900 compared to the NS9000. Saw the AT70 and the head is big ! Price for the NS9900 is good here, around HK$1100 or S$220. XLR88 02-24-2009, 09:00 AM ne one can tell me if there is a big difference with this and the ns9000X other than faster racuqet speed. I love the ns9k type x!!!!!!! Danstevens 02-24-2009, 09:14 AM got mine strung up today!!!! looking forward to trying it out on friday. in my opinion, the "lollipop" is equivalent to the Arcsaber10 in weight So jealous................I'm very tempted to buy it but I think I'll wait a little bit. z3048018 02-24-2009, 09:40 AM you know, i too was planning to wait and see, but i don't know why i made that phone call during lunch and my friend said that the SP 3UG4 was available....the rest is history...one of my colleague said that he was quoted HKD$1680 for the JP version. my jaw just fell to the floor!! ice man 02-24-2009, 01:27 PM I am currently in HK and I saw the NS9900 and also the new series of AT ! It is already available here ! The AT600 really looks a the AT900 technique and also I do prefer the color scheme of the NS9900 compared to the NS9000. Saw the AT70 and the head is big ! Price for the NS9900 is good here, around HK$1100 or S$220. What do you mean by big ? Like Wilson's racquet heads ? Danstevens 02-24-2009, 02:47 PM you know, i too was planning to wait and see, but i don't know why i made that phone call during lunch and my friend said that the SP 3UG4 was available....the rest is history...one of my colleague said that he was quoted HKD$1680 for the JP version. my jaw just fell to the floor!! I'll definitely be going for the 2U version when I take the plunge. Enjoy it. What do you mean by big ? Like Wilson's racquet heads ? I'm guessing he means oversized. It is a beginner racket which is probably why it has an oversized head. Licin 02-24-2009, 07:16 PM what is HK coded racket? HK or SP coded? teoky 02-24-2009, 07:27 PM Just for your info, the NS9900 I saw in HK are SP coded, so I think Singapore should have it soon. szekt 02-24-2009, 10:29 PM Just for your info, the NS9900 I saw in HK are SP coded, so I think Singapore should have it soon. Wowo,$220 does sound like a good price...I just tried Classic sports and checked with Mr Soh, no plans to bring it in yet!:( Mr.Chu 02-24-2009, 10:59 PM What is the difference between the "SP/IP" coded racquets and the "JP" coded racquets? jhirata 02-24-2009, 11:02 PM What is the difference between the "SP/IP" coded racquets and the "JP" coded racquets? Use the search function.. teoky 02-25-2009, 02:24 AM Wowo,$220 does sound like a good price...I just tried Classic sports and checked with Mr Soh, no plans to bring it in yet!:( I think I better clarify, it is HK$11xx but in my original post I said "around HK$1100". Don't want people beating down on my door to ask me where to get at exactly HK$1100 :p quik_silver 02-25-2009, 02:32 AM e78.com.hk quoted a price of $1200hkd for the ns9900 w/bg80, its a okay bargain for a new racquet. and a side thing for those who interested in at700 (old), a IP coded for $1600hkd, i just noticed it when i was browsing around. what07 02-25-2009, 04:17 PM I just realized badminton tryouts for my school startled on the same day the 9900 came out. I wonder if I should go look for one just to see how it is. Badmintan 02-26-2009, 08:30 AM YONEX NanoSpeed 9900 Review Review Date : January – February 2009 Launch Date : Feb 24 2009 Racket Type : Yonex NanoSpeed 9900 Specs : 3UG4 Strings: Yonex Nanogy98 ( Supplied ) Tension: 30lbs , 1 Piece Stringing Stringing Machine : Yonex ESPRO Technology : Nanoscale Technology, Elastic-Ti (GuMMetal) , High Modulus Graphite ,Solid Feel Core + Special Fullerene Grip: Original Grip Shuttle Used: Yonex Official and Yonex Tournament Feel: 9.5/10 Control: 9.5/10 Power: 9/10 Defense: 9/10 Maneuverability: 9/10 Ants Hi Ants, Since you tested the pre-production (or prototype) model, you confirmed that the pre-production model has Elastic-Ti alloy? :confused: I thought the production model has Elastic-Ti, but am dissappointed that that it doesn't after physically examining the racquet. Adding to the confusion, the Yonex website: :ohttp://www.yonex.com/swf/ns9900/main.html Mention that the frame is made up of HM Graphite + X-Fullerene and the Shaft is made up of HM Graphite + Fullerene. Anyway, I think Yonex should name it Nanospeed 8800 instead of 9900:p. Thanks for the review btw, I think the performance of the racquet is more important:D. YY_PLAYER 02-26-2009, 11:08 AM I've find a nice pic on the dutch YONEX Forum: http://yyforum.cona.nl/download/yypics/specs_series01.jpg Danstevens 02-26-2009, 01:51 PM Excellent, thanks for that. So it's a little head heavier and a little more repulsive than the NS9KX YY_PLAYER 02-27-2009, 05:28 AM I've seen in a dutch webshop, belgro.com (http://www.belgro.nl), that they all ready have the NS9900 on sale. The NS9900 has a price off 130 euro (around US$ 165,=). That seems me a nice price for such beautiful NS9900. Is there all ready another store in the world that has the NS9900 in the store? demolidor 02-27-2009, 05:59 AM I've seen in a dutch webshop, belgro.com (http://www.belgro.nl), that they all ready have the NS9900 on sale. The NS9900 has a price off 130 euro (around US$ 165,=). That seems me a nice price for such beautiful NS9900. Is there all ready another store in the world that has the NS9900 in the store? "Dit artikel is binnenkort leverbaar" (available shortly) szekt 02-27-2009, 08:19 AM Anyone knows where I can get this racket in singapore? :) andyid02 02-27-2009, 08:26 AM Hey YY! US$165 really a good price. May I know what is the code on this racket? silentheart 02-27-2009, 08:48 AM I've seen in a dutch webshop, belgro.com (http://www.belgro.nl), that they all ready have the NS9900 on sale. The NS9900 has a price off 130 euro (around US$ 165,=). That seems me a nice price for such beautiful NS9900. Is there all ready another store in the world that has the NS9900 in the store? I am wondering are these racquets SP coded? Oldhand 02-27-2009, 09:09 AM I got mine today and had a go with it. It is SP coded - 210192SP :) If you overlook the marketing mumbo-jumbo like X-Fullerene, HMG, etc., the Nanospeed 9900 is simply the Nanospeed 9000X in new colours ;) I will post pictures in another thread. Pete LSD 02-27-2009, 09:11 AM Did you get the 2U or 3U version? I got mine today and had a go with it. It is SP coded - 210192SP :) If you overlook the marketing mumbo-jumbo like X-Fullerene, HMG, etc., the Nanospeed 9900 is simply the Nanospeed 9000X in new colours ;) I will post pictures in another thread. Oldhand 02-27-2009, 09:28 AM Did you get the 2U or 3U version? It's a 3U G5 :) I've posted pictures in another thread (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1098911). Tinshuttle 02-27-2009, 10:00 AM how does the racket play? how does it feel compared to arc10? is it super stiff like 9000x? cheers z3048018 02-27-2009, 10:32 AM having heard about the fragility of the NS i was quite hesitant but after seeing it first hand, the lollipop started to grow on me and bought it then and there (BG85 at 27lbs). after that, i had to wait for 3 days until i could take it out on a ride. initial impression is that it's an extremely light racquet; similar to that of the Arc7 with that slight hint of head heaviness. today was the first outing and it gathered a large population of people because of the lollipop design!!! warm up hits were surprisingly solid; clears were effortless; control is quite excellent - the shuttle goes to your intended target; smashes were powerful (to my surprise better than the Arc10); and i actually did a backhand clear :D - all in par with what Ants mentioned in his review the only problem i seem to have is that due to the lightness of the racquet, defense is a problem and something i will have to adjust to. i tend to swing it faster than normal, but during the fast exchanges, i can get my racquet up in position without any problems. it's an unbelievably fine racquet for doubles and, in my opinion, on par with the Arc10. now i have to make an executive decision on whether to purchase another one and retire the 10, or leave it at just the one 9900. it'll be a hard decision to make....it'll be even harder if Ants "approves" of the new Arcsaber!!! Oldhand 02-27-2009, 10:37 AM how does the racket play? how does it feel compared to arc10? is it super stiff like 9000x? cheers Please see posts 169 and 176 :) ... and 180 too! Oldhand 02-27-2009, 10:42 AM having heard about the fragility of the NS i was quite hesitant but after seeing it first hand, the lollipop started to grow on me and bought it then and there (BG85 at 27lbs). after that, i had to wait for 3 days until i could take it out on a ride. initial impression is that it's an extremely light racquet; similar to that of the Arc7 with that slight hint of head heaviness. today was the first outing and it gathered a large population of people because of the lollipop design!!! warm up hits were surprisingly solid; clears were effortless; control is quite excellent - the shuttle goes to your intended target; smashes were powerful (to my surprise better than the Arc10); and i actually did a backhand clear :D - all in par with what Ants mentioned in his review the only problem i seem to have is that due to the lightness of the racquet, defense is a problem and something i will have to adjust to. i tend to swing it faster than normal, but during the fast exchanges, i can get my racquet up in position without any problems. it's an unbelievably fine racquet for doubles and, in my opinion, on par with the Arc10. now i have to make an executive decision on whether to purchase another one and retire the 10, or leave it at just the one 9900. it'll be a hard decision to make....it'll be even harder if Ants "approves" of the new Arcsaber!!! Yes, it's extremely light... something surprising for a stiff-shaft racquet. I don't know if you have used the Nanospeed 9000X. If you have, you'd have difficulty calling the 9900 a 'new' racquet :rolleyes: z3048018 02-27-2009, 11:04 AM (un)fortunately i have not...after what friends have been saying, i thought it would be a waste of money cooler 02-27-2009, 11:42 AM Yes, it's extremely light... something surprising for a stiff-shaft racquet. I don't know if you have used the Nanospeed 9000X. If you have, you'd have difficulty calling the 9900 a 'new' racquet :rolleyes: i thot the 9000X is not head light, more closer to balance and x-stiff. could 9900 be like 9000S but x-stiff like the 9000X ?? I haven't tried it but rather trying to extract your thots online:p:p Oldhand 02-27-2009, 06:28 PM With the ArcSabers and the Armortecs still going strong, it will be tough for Yonex to hawk this 'new' Nanospeed. There is no niche (as indicated by the chart) that this racquet fills... except maybe the craving forsomething newer ;) szekt 02-27-2009, 09:06 PM Actually am thinking of getting either arc 10 vs nanospeed 9900; have used nanspeed 9000S before but felt it is abit too head light for my liking... smashes are less powerful..... any advice?:) ants 02-27-2009, 10:20 PM Actually am thinking of getting either arc 10 vs nanospeed 9900; have used nanspeed 9000S before but felt it is abit too head light for my liking... smashes are less powerful..... any advice?:) Try using a 3UG5 or 2UG5. szekt 02-28-2009, 12:20 AM Try using a 3UG5 or 2UG5. Hi ants, the nanospeed 9000s i used is 3UG4; do you mean to get a 3UG5 or 2UG5 arc 10 or nanospeed 9900? ants 02-28-2009, 03:11 AM Hi ants, the nanospeed 9000s i used is 3UG4; do you mean to get a 3UG5 or 2UG5 arc 10 or nanospeed 9900? NS9900. YOu can also use it for ARC10. stjsx 02-28-2009, 09:10 AM hey guys, i am wondering if the nanospeed series, such as the latest ns9900, are able to generate faster smashes than armortec, such as at 700. how does ti-10 come into the picture. like the yonex chart, armortec's are head heavy while nanopeed's are under repulsion which both yonex claims to generate faster smashes. i have played with all rackets in the past but at different levels of my game so am not able to compare them. z3048018 02-28-2009, 09:35 AM i've used both racquets and i can tell you that it's hard to say which one generates the faster smash. it all depends on your timing and technique i guess. twobeer 02-28-2009, 12:16 PM hey guys, i am wondering if the nanospeed series, such as the latest ns9900, are able to generate faster smashes than armortec, such as at 700. how does ti-10 come into the picture. like the yonex chart, armortec's are head heavy while nanopeed's are under repulsion which both yonex claims to generate faster smashes. i have played with all rackets in the past but at different levels of my game so am not able to compare them. haha.. makes you wonder whey they dont may a head heavy racket with repulsion :cool: :rolleyes: :p .. sigh.. marketing graphs are utterly meaningless ;) /Twobeer Oldhand 03-01-2009, 09:25 AM Extracted from ajc00's (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1099918&postcount=223)larger review in another thread (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65022): -------- Following many requests from friends eager to find out about these two rackets before their official launch here in the UK, I’ve been granted “permission” shall we say to post the reviews: (Normally my employer does not allow me to do this!) Apologies in advance for the rather generic-style of review but when I get rackets to test, I send back a report on them, so this may read like more like a report than a review. Yonex NS9900: Summary: What’s the fuss all about? Behind all the technological jargon and black/orange paint lies a racket that has a very stiff flex with an even-balance – very similar to NS9000, if not the same racket with a better paint job and a new CS cap! Flex: Advertised as being extra-stiff and it certainly is – without a doubt the stiffest racket in the current Yonex line-up. Balance: Advertised as head-light but I dispute this claim. It feels even-balanced to me, on a par with the Arcsaber 7 in that respect. Performance: Good head-pick up for over-head shots. It feels pretty easy to manoeuvre in that respect but no more so than most of the Nanospeed range does and less than others. Response time for defending is good but again no real difference from previous flag-ship models like the NS9000X, NS9000S or NS8000. Control is impressive; very easy to accurately place a shot exactly where it’s intended to go, especially when lifting into the back corners of a court. Smash trajectory/repulsion is impressive, the head snaps back nicely when the shuttle is struck with strong force. Conclusion: A nicely balanced racket that performs well, I like it. However, I have to take issue with a couple of points. Firstly the advertising claim about “the fastest Nanospeed”. If, by this claim, it is meant that the NS9900 is a racket which glides through the air faster than any other of the Nanospeed range, then something is clearly wrong. The NS6000 and NS7000 are distinctly faster through the air than this racket and although from a different range, I would argue that the AT900T isn’t that far off either. Secondly, to many who purchase this racket, I fear that they will be a little disappointed, especially if migrating across from using the NS9000X, as the NS9900 feels and performs in a near identical way. -------------- twobeer 03-02-2009, 04:47 AM I got e few NS9900 fresh from Germany (GP coded :cool: , not GR :D ) I played with it a few session, and I have to say I am really impressed with this racket. To me it feels like a big improvement over the NS9K. It is more similar to the feel of a stiffer more powerful version of the NS8K. If I would compare the responsiveness/repulsion of the NS9900K the closest match is really my TC700 (closer to that in feel than the yonex line).. I would say this is the mixed/double version of TC700 :D lighter but still packs a good punch.. The repulsion and stiffness of NS9900 is nothing short of amazing.. Getting angles, placement and doing flat-play offensive blocks is a joy.. I am really impressed with Yonex effort on this one, and would highly recommend this racket!! I would go so far to say this is my fav. racket in the yonex lineup right know.. And I was a bit sceptical on Ants review, but after playing with it I agree very much on most of what he writes about it.. I only got the 3U version, but I dont really see much point in going 2U, as that would take away a little bit of the speed of the racket (which is its major feature, imop).. This is like a little brother to the TC700.. Also great repulsion.. two thumbs up for NS9.9K :D /Twobeer P.S. btw tested setup (3U/G5, bg80@33) D.S. Sealman 03-02-2009, 05:10 AM I was drooling at Oldhand's NS9900. Correct me if I'm wrong, I thought the frame profile of the NS9900 looks similar to the NS8000. :) Perhaps its just me having sour grapes :D teoky 03-02-2009, 08:07 AM Oh oh, with twobeer giving such a glowing review, I see myself breaking my piggy bank again ! twobeer 03-02-2009, 08:46 AM Oh oh, with twobeer giving such a glowing review, I see myself breaking my piggy bank again ! It is definitively worth breaking the piggy bank for the NS9.9K :D .. However for singles the TC700 has the power edge for me!! Great racket!! The balance is more mid-balance towards headlight, compared to the TC700 which I tjhink is more mid balanced slightly towards head-heavy imop. So it was not very hard for me to adjust timing to the NS9.9K.. (only timing issue i had was really finding the sweetspot consistently on all out smashes, of course at 33lbs the sweetspot isnt huge to begin with :-)) /Twobeer Oldhand 03-02-2009, 09:10 AM How I wish someone would string for me at 33 pounds :( At 30-31 lbs, I don't share your excitement yet, twobeer. After a long time with the AT-700LTD, the AT-900T and the Ti-10, the NS 9900 feels way too light for adequate control or smashing (although the smashes are just as good with it as with any of the former named). It's the loss of feeling that bothers me... the 9900's light construction makes me feel like a schoolmaster with a thin, light cane. Just tonight, I noticed that my clears and drives are shooting far out. Delicate shots are far from easy... a bit less and they fall short, a bit more and they shoot up! :( The silver lining is the added edge it provides to defensive shots. Being so light, it's rather easy to manoeuvre it to meet smashes. A simple flick... and the shuttle rockets away. That's a nice result :D In all, I wouldn't recommend this racquet to anyone who has migrated to the Armortec range (or even the ArcSaber range). Those now wedded to the Nanospeeds will likely love this... as will those who prefer lightweights like the several models from Karakal :) teoky 03-02-2009, 09:27 AM Thanks to the reviews so far, that's what I like about this forum when so many are willing to spend the time (and money) to write a review on new products, this is very helpful for many and I personally based many of my purchases on the reviews here. I do hope to see reviews on the NS9900 with tensions that are less than 30lbs as that would be closer to what I am used to. twobeer 03-02-2009, 10:29 AM How I wish someone would string for me at 33 pounds :( At 30-31 lbs, I don't share your excitement yet, twobeer. After a long time with the AT-700LTD, the AT-900T and the Ti-10, the NS 9900 feels way too light for adequate control or smashing (although the smashes are just as good with it as with any of the former named). It's the loss of feeling that bothers me... Coming from an ti10, At700 i can see that, timing between those are very different... the 9900's light construction makes me feel like a schoolmaster with a thin, light cane. Is being a schoolmaster on court with a whippy cane, doesnt sound to bad too me :D Just tonight, I noticed that my clears and drives are shooting far out. Delicate shots are far from easy... a bit less and they fall short, a bit more and they shoot up! :( Must string harder :D :D :cool: /Twobeer Pete LSD 03-02-2009, 11:59 AM TB, your review doesn't count :D. You get a special pick, not the normal GR. Is it the string job 2 piece or 1 piece? 33 X 35? issarakaya 03-02-2009, 12:27 PM Oh oh, with twobeer giving such a glowing review, I see myself breaking my piggy bank again ! you can count me in :D @twobeer I have NS9K S and really have problem when adjusting swing timing, too fast and much different from TC700......are you have same problem when try new NS? I just try in one short game and immediately back to TC700 hehehehe ants 03-02-2009, 12:44 PM Nice review twobeer. Didn't know you were skeptical about my review. :( hehehe.. anyway glad you enjoyed the racket. cooler 03-02-2009, 01:32 PM I got e few NS9900 fresh from Germany (GP coded :cool: , not GR :D ) I played with it a few session, and I have to say I am really impressed with this racket. To me it feels like a big improvement over the NS9K. It is more similar to the feel of a stiffer more powerful version of the NS8K. If I would compare the responsiveness/repulsion of the NS9900K the closest match is really my TC700 (closer to that in feel than the yonex line).. I would say this is the mixed/double version of TC700 :D lighter but still packs a good punch.. The repulsion and stiffness of NS9900 is nothing short of amazing.. Getting angles, placement and doing flat-play offensive blocks is a joy.. I am really impressed with Yonex effort on this one, and would highly recommend this racket!! I would go so far to say this is my fav. racket in the yonex lineup right know.. And I was a bit sceptical on Ants review, but after playing with it I agree very much on most of what he writes about it.. I only got the 3U version, but I dont really see much point in going 2U, as that would take away a little bit of the speed of the racket (which is its major feature, imop).. This is like a little brother to the TC700.. Also great repulsion.. two thumbs up for NS9.9K :D /Twobeer P.S. btw tested setup (3U/G5, bg80@33) D.S.i read your review and it's more glowing than Ant's;) cooler 03-02-2009, 01:44 PM Coming from an ti10, At700 i can see that, timing between those are very different... /Twobeer I find it much easier to adjust from AT/Ti-10 to NS than NS to AT/Ti-10. cooler 03-02-2009, 03:46 PM It is definitively worth breaking the piggy bank for the NS9.9K :D .. However for singles the TC700 has the power edge for me!! Great racket!! The balance is more mid-balance towards headlight, compared to the TC700 which I tjhink is more mid balanced slightly towards head-heavy imop. So it was not very hard for me to adjust timing to the NS9.9K.. (only timing issue i had was really finding the sweetspot consistently on all out smashes, of course at 33lbs the sweetspot isnt huge to begin with :-)) /Twobeer 2beer, what frame design is the 9900? closer to NS8k or NS9k? what07 03-02-2009, 04:16 PM I don't have a piggy bank to break for such a racquet. Do they take Creadit card???? :) silentheart 03-02-2009, 05:48 PM I am so glad that Ant and TB wrote such good reviews and give such good recommendation on NS9.9k. I am still waiting for my US coded one to come in. The damn slow po. My wife told me I just got a box from the evil empire and I am still in KC and flight is delayed... twobeer 03-02-2009, 05:58 PM 2beer, what frame design is the 9900? closer to NS8k or NS9k? Closer to NS8K (narrower than 9K... I'll try to post a picture :-) /T twobeer 03-02-2009, 06:00 PM TB, your review doesn't count :D. You get a special pick, not the normal GR. Is it the string job 2 piece or 1 piece? 33 X 35? Two piece 33x35 .. but i think one of the rackets lost 1-2 pounds after a few hours (no string breakage :-D :D ... yet) ... /T Pete LSD 03-02-2009, 06:06 PM And they used Yonex ES5-Pro stringing machine? BTW, I would like to know if the stringers used Yonex's recommendation of starting the cross from the throat of the frame. Please do a pull test with your finger. Pull the first cross up and down from the head side. If the first cross string is very tight, then the stringer started the cross stringing from the head. If the first string is loose, then the stringer started from the throat or the middle of the frame. Has the special package arrived yet? :D Two piece 33x35 .. but i think one of the rackets lost 1-2 pounds after a few hours (no string breakage :-D :D ... yet) ... /T twobeer 03-02-2009, 06:22 PM Closer to NS8K (narrower than 9K... I'll try to post a picture :-) /T the picture may not be very good.. but the frame is more slim than NS9K... (it is also interesting to note that grommet placement is a little bit different on all three) Optiblue 03-02-2009, 06:32 PM I think out of all the new yonex racquets, the AT600 sounds like the only one I'd try out after these reviews! twobeer 03-02-2009, 06:33 PM And they used Yonex ES5-Pro stringing machine? Nope. Babolat Sensor. BTW, I would like to know if the stringers used Yonex's recommendation of starting the cross from the throat of the frame. Please do a pull test with your finger. Pull the first cross up and down from the head side. If the first cross string is very tight, then the stringer started the cross stringing from the head. If the first string is loose, then the stringer started from the throat or the middle of the frame. Actually both the the top and the bottom feels less tight than the rest, so I assume he started from the middle ?!?! Do you think it is a poor string job? Anyway it feels tight and nice in play :-) Has the special package arrived yet? :D No I am beginning to loose faith... I got a tracking no. from badmintonshoponline (where I ordered it from), but it only tracks to until it leaves Hong Kong, and I have not got any indications (not even from customs) about the package.. /T Pete LSD 03-03-2009, 01:46 AM Ah, maybe the stringers didn't activated the 10% pre-stretch function. The string loose a lot of tension without pre-stretching. It can be a either starting from the middle or off middle (shuttle-house method and Victor stringing pattern) or bottom (pull two strings at once) or top (pull two strings at once) . . . etc. Each stringer has his/her reasons. However, I would pull directly on the first cross whether from the bottom or top side. Get a second NS-9900 with the cross strung top down. Compare and post a review of the two. That's so strange. How many weeks has it been since the shipment went out of HK? Nope. Babolat Sensor. Actually both the the top and the bottom feels less tight than the rest, so I assume he started from the middle ?!?! Do you think it is a poor string job? Anyway it feels tight and nice in play :-) No I am beginning to loose faith... I got a tracking no. from badmintonshoponline (where I ordered it from), but it only tracks to until it leaves Hong Kong, and I have not got any indications (not even from customs) about the package.. /T twobeer 03-03-2009, 03:50 AM Ah, maybe the stringers didn't activated the 10% pre-stretch function. The string loose a lot of tension without pre-stretching. ahh. that could be an explanation of my feel that it lost a few pounds duirng play :-) "Two piece 33x35 .. but i think one of the rackets lost 1-2 pounds after a few hours (no string breakage :-D ... yet) ..." It can be a either starting from the middle or off middle (shuttle-house method and Victor stringing pattern) or bottom (pull two strings at once) or top (pull two strings at once) . . . etc. Each stringer has his/her reasons. However, I would pull directly on the first cross whether from the bottom or top side. Get a second NS-9900 with the cross strung top down. Compare and post a review of the two. You mean get a third :-) That's so strange. How many weeks has it been since the shipment went out of HK? Got a note from te post office today for an international package.. fingers crossed.. silentheart 03-03-2009, 08:35 AM ahh. that could be an explanation of my feel that it lost a few pounds duirng play :-) I usually loss 4~5lb of weight after 2 hr of play. Water weight... ants 03-03-2009, 10:46 AM i read your review and it's more glowing than Ant's;) AHahha... yeah more glowing than mine.. good to know that more pll is doing their own reviews. So i can retire from doing it next time. ;) Danstevens 03-03-2009, 11:12 AM AHahha... yeah more glowing than mine.. good to know that more pll is doing their own reviews. So i can retire from doing it next time. ;) No, you reviewed it before release. That makes a difference. You're not getting out of reviewing that easily, ants. ;) cooler 03-03-2009, 11:31 AM AHahha... yeah more glowing than mine.. good to know that more pll is doing their own reviews. So i can retire from doing it next time. ;)retire and do what? hehe ants 03-03-2009, 11:49 AM retire and do what? hehe Retire and be merry. :). Hehehe seriously i do hope my reviews add value. I am also learning from you guys. The other reviews if not good, they are better than mine. Danstevens 03-03-2009, 01:33 PM Retire and be merry. :). Hehehe seriously i do hope my reviews add value. I am also learning from you guys. The other reviews if not good, they are better than mine. They certainly do. Honestly, they're absolutely fantastic. sudirman 03-04-2009, 04:17 AM seems Central Sports will have stock soon Destricto_Ense 03-04-2009, 09:57 AM The NS9k9 is for sale at the AE.. I picked it up, it sure is damn stiff. Didn't like the feel of it as much as an Arc 10 though. Matt 03-04-2009, 10:58 AM The NS9k9 is for sale at the AE.. I picked it up, it sure is damn stiff. Didn't like the feel of it as much as an Arc 10 though. Fake lol! Bascially NS9K9 = NS9009! :D cooler 03-04-2009, 10:59 AM Fake lol! Bascially NS9K9 = NS9009! :Dmaybe he meant NS 9.9k? Destricto_Ense 03-04-2009, 11:05 AM yeah, I did, I prefer 9k9 though ;) Matt 03-04-2009, 11:07 AM Yeah 9.9K Ok lets find the 9k9! ha ha! phandrew 03-04-2009, 02:01 PM 9k9 would be 90009 not 9009 Matt 03-04-2009, 02:02 PM lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Destricto_Ense 03-04-2009, 04:40 PM 9k9 would be 90009 not 9009 What? No it wouldn't. What year is it? Two-thousand (2k) and (9). Do you write the date as 20009? Btw, the 9900 (forget about shortening it) felt head heavy compared to the ArcSaber 10. Strange.. Matt 03-04-2009, 05:19 PM Is this the 2U or 3U? Destricto_Ense 03-04-2009, 05:28 PM 3U in the booklet beside it, but I wouldn't know to be honest. HKChua 03-04-2009, 11:52 PM The YONEX 9900 is available at Classic Sports. Mr Soh from Classic Sports had indicated to me that he will be able to offer at < S$300/-, with string and grip. Anyone interested please approach him directly. I will not state any definite price over the forum because of my previous bad experience. It will be more adequate for anyone interested to go to his shop. Thanks. ants 03-04-2009, 11:54 PM Thanks for the Info HKChua. szekt 03-05-2009, 02:34 AM The YONEX 9900 is available at Classic Sports. Mr Soh from Classic Sports had indicated to me that he will be able to offer at < S$300/-, with string and grip. Anyone interested please approach him directly. I will not state any definite price over the forum because of my previous bad experience. It will be more adequate for anyone interested to go to his shop. Thanks. Good to know; thanks for the info; the last time I called him, he said he wasnt bringing it in cos there were not much enqueries for it...looks like since then, a lot more people had called him:D Badmintan 03-05-2009, 04:00 AM Good to know; thanks for the info; the last time I called him, he said he wasnt bringing it in cos there were not much enqueries for it...looks like since then, a lot more people had called him:D Looks like there's no SP version of 2U NS9.9K, even Sunrise did not carry it-the salesgirl said no stock. Dreamzz 03-05-2009, 04:16 AM can whoever buys a new ns9900 let us know what price they got it at? please include what strings, bag and other goodies it came with so we can make meaningful comparisons. thanks! Oldhand 03-05-2009, 05:18 AM can whoever buys a new ns9900 let us know what price they got it at? please include what strings, bag and other goodies it came with so we can make meaningful comparisons. thanks! See this (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1099305&postcount=22) and this (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1098947&postcount=1770) :) However, do note that this is a 'new release' price. By now, this should have dropped by at least 5% to 8%, if not more. The only thing that came with it was the racquet cover - it's the same as those that accompany the older Nanospeeds. I paid extra for the string and stringing. In a few days from now, one should be able to get the racquet, its cover, a decent string and stringing (and maybe a grip) for this 'new release' price :) szekt 03-05-2009, 05:46 AM Looks like there's no SP version of 2U NS9.9K, even Sunrise did not carry it-the salesgirl said no stock. If it is not Sp code, which code is it? 7slee0 03-05-2009, 11:18 AM Nanospeed 9k9 is out on Badmintonalley! http://www.badmintonalley.com/Yonex_Nano_Speed_9900_2009_Badminton_Rack_p/racket-yonex-ns9900-2009.htm Dreamzz 03-05-2009, 11:45 AM See this (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1099305&postcount=22) and this (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1098947&postcount=1770) :) However, do note that this is a 'new release' price. By now, this should have dropped by at least 5% to 8%, if not more. The only thing that came with it was the racquet cover - it's the same as those that accompany the older Nanospeeds. I paid extra for the string and stringing. In a few days from now, one should be able to get the racquet, its cover, a decent string and stringing (and maybe a grip) for this 'new release' price :) just couldn't wait, could you? :D the reason i asked is 2 fold: 1) to help others get the best price 2) to compare prices across borders jebatdurhaka 03-05-2009, 05:57 PM saw one yesterday at AJ in Puchong (Malaysia). the color is black/orange, SP code. the price quoted to me is RM690 (with bag, grip and bg66) .. :( another shop nearby, GV .. no stock yet, but quote me RM680 (with bag, grip and bg66) .. RM10 cheaper .. planning to buy, once i've improved my skill to advanced level .. (long way to go) :D as a gift for my self !! jensen9173 03-05-2009, 07:17 PM Wow! that price consider cheap in Malaysia. Not bad :p saw one yesterday at AJ in Puchong (Malaysia). the color is black/orange, SP code. the price quoted to me is RM690 (with bag, grip and bg66) .. :( another shop nearby, GV .. no stock yet, but quote me RM680 (with bag, grip and bg66) .. RM10 cheaper .. planning to buy, once i've improved my skill to advanced level .. (long way to go) :D as a gift for my self !! din 03-05-2009, 07:20 PM Wonder what the price at pertama complex like... :rolleyes::D:p saw one yesterday at AJ in Puchong (Malaysia). the color is black/orange, SP code. the price quoted to me is RM690 (with bag, grip and bg66) .. :( another shop nearby, GV .. no stock yet, but quote me RM680 (with bag, grip and bg66) .. RM10 cheaper .. planning to buy, once i've improved my skill to advanced level .. (long way to go) :D as a gift for my self !! andyid02 03-06-2009, 12:55 AM Wow!! :eek: RM690 is cheaper as compare to Singapore if do 2.39 exchange rate, is only SGD288 with bag, BG66 and grip. Really good buy in Msia. Badmintan 03-06-2009, 02:32 AM If it is not Sp code, which code is it? :( I paid a [Liem Swie]King's ransom for the 2U NS9.9K JP version. It just arrived today:p. Can't wait to whack the shuttle with it. Oldhand 03-06-2009, 10:39 AM :( I paid a [Liem Swie]King's ransom for the 2U NS9.9K JP version. It just arrived today:p. Can't wait to whack the shuttle with it. Great to see that you secured a 2U. Wow! :) szekt 03-06-2009, 08:16 PM Great to see that you secured a 2U. Wow! :) Hi:) Oldhand, what are the advantages of 2U cf to 3U? Thanks. h4n5ip 03-06-2009, 08:27 PM Who prof do you think use this racket? TH, LD, LCW has their own weapon already. Would love to get one also, may be wait till more people test it and wait till the price goes down |