Can Malaysia Boleh at the AE? [Archive] - Badminton Central Discussion Forums

Pemuda

02-06-2009, 05:59 PM

Dear Boleh folks,

The All England.

This is a major title. A prestigious event.

The last time we won that MS was back in 2003, HH. And before HH the last time we won it was in 1966, Tan Aik Huang. 1966, imagine that before HH's fluke shot.

Now, today we have a WR1 MS in Datuk Lee Chong Wei, who so far as WR1 is more of a jagoh kampung aiming to break his duck as far as winning a major title is concern. The lad is in good shape, at the peak of his career but can he hold his nerves in this year's AE?? This year is LCW's best and last chance to bag the AE. Why so? Here are my reasons:

At 26 he is at his peak ( generally Malaysian shuttlers will go downhill once they hit their late 20s)
Chinese shuttlers just coming back after a long lay off may be rusty etcBUT I feel two things are not in LCW's favour. And they are; the first being the All England is not held in KL or Kota Kinabalu. second, the All England is a major event and LCW has a tendency to get cold feet.

Ok, enough of LCW, lets look at our next best chance to win that All England - our MD.

The last time we won the AE MD was back in 2007 with our stylish, glamourous, loud and colourful KKK/TBH. Before KKK/TBH, the last time we won the AE MD was back in 1982, RS/JS.

2008 AE was a disaster for KKK/TBH as their ready to plunder in Europe battle cry turned out to be ready to blunder instead. KKK/TBH ended 2008 with no SS titles except the SSF and many here predicted KKK/TBH by winning the SSF are now on the up again. Whether they are really on the up, we will find out after the AE.

As for the rest, WS, XD, WD .... lets just say, we hope our shuttlers do their best, enjoy the sights, food and come home with souvenirs for their friends and family members. Yes, yes, I know we have a decent WD. But in reality, I feel our top WD pair is not really there yet. Yes, they have improved but they are not there yet.

My prediction for the MS & MD?

We are going to end up empty handed. LCW will choke again and lighting will not strike twice in the case of KKK/TBH.

I hope I am proven wrong though. And I hope the gold rings, earrings, chains, bracelets, tattoos, pendants, hair colour or what have nots will bring in the much needed fengshui or good mojo for LCW & KKK/TBH to win the AE. And coupled with the Malaysia Boleh entourage and marching band, who knows!!!

Malaysia Boleh!

ctjcad

02-06-2009, 06:32 PM

..500+ posts and 15,000+ views, here we come!!..;)

Athelete1234

02-06-2009, 06:33 PM

IMO, I dont' think LCW really choked in the AE last year...he just looked really really out of it. Like in his match with taufik he didn't seem focussed and ready to win.

As for this year...who knows.

EDIT: Actually, with Kido gone, JJS not there, this could be a prime time for KKK and TBH to come back.

bananakid

02-06-2009, 06:38 PM

LCW won't win AE 09 because of two words "Lin Dan".
- Lin Dan has entered 5 AE finals in a row since 2004 and won 3 of them(lost to Chen Hong in 05, and Chen Jin in 08)... now that he is even better than he was before, and the gap between him and other players has widen somewhat, so his chance of making it to the final of AE09 is quite high. Then say if LCW also makes it to the final and meet Lin Dan... consider the nightmares LCW has had since OG08 MS final night, he will certainly have cold feet, shaky knees and every other reasons for him to not perform and lose.:eek:

Unless your last name is Chen, otherwise good luck when you meet Lin Dan in AE... even Chen Yu lost in 07. haha

KKK/TBH won't win AE 09 because of one person "Pjswift"
- She already made up an excuse for them to lose... "they already won it before". :rolleyes:

bananakid

02-06-2009, 06:41 PM

..500+ posts and 15,000+ views, here we come!!..;)

25+ posts being deleted.. here we come!!!;)

koo_fan

02-06-2009, 07:37 PM

Actually, with Kido gone, JJS not there, this could be a prime time for KKK and TBH to come back.

That was something i'm up to.Absence of other top opponents could give them some space.In addition,The clock is ticking on their comeback.That one is my hope of the year.

People,do not be bias to this thread.Predicting on the number of posts that will be deleted would make our thread starter feel bad.
:p

Pemuda

02-06-2009, 07:47 PM

..500+ posts and 15,000+ views, here we come!!..;)

Lets kick off the All England party with a bang! :p

Pemuda

02-06-2009, 07:53 PM

Oldhand

02-06-2009, 08:10 PM

..500+ posts and 15,000+ views, here we come!!..;)

25+ posts being deleted.. here we come!!!;)

And permanent bans... here we come!!!! ;)

badadum

02-06-2009, 08:15 PM

EDIT: Actually, with Kido gone, JJS not there, this could be a prime time for KKK and TBH to come back.

Quite true... FHF/CY will be the next biggest obstacle for them, closely followed by the Danish "dominator".

Never underestimate the INA's scratch pair though... ;)

koo_fan

02-06-2009, 08:17 PM

And permanent bans... here we come!!!! ;)
Don't be,Oldhand.
Try our best to keep peace here.

Oldhand

02-06-2009, 08:29 PM

At worst, this year will be a mad scramble at the AE.
At best, Malaysia will make the most of the opportunity.

For Koo Kien Keat and Tan Boon Heong, the prospects couldn't be better.

The top Korean pair has been halved by the demands of military service, the top Indonesian pair has been split by financial wrangling and the top Danish pair has fared poorly against this Malaysian pair.

If they still can't make it, they will have only themselves to blame.

It's quite a different horizon that Lee Chong Wei sees ahead.

He will have to contend with a 'militarised' Lin Dan, a newly 'professional' Taufik Hidayat and an 'ageless' Peter Gade, not to mention quite a few wannabes who are hoping to open the season with prestige. (Of course, anyone could spring an unpleasant surprise on Chong Wei on his way up.)

In my view, if Lee Chong Wei fails to make it to the top, he will still have fought an honourable battle.

But not so for the waltzy doubles pair.
They will deserve no sympathy at all ;)

ants

02-06-2009, 08:48 PM

koo_fan

02-06-2009, 08:58 PM

But not so for the waltzy doubles pair.
They will deserve no sympathy at all ;)

Here you are,derives my fav pair into a tough position.:cool:
I learn something from the previous AE, just look on how they play the game,
whether the enforce errors are overwhelming or not.That's my study case.

The winning matters, but other alternatives on judging shouldn't be forgone Here i am again, with a belief that they can.KKK/TBh Boleh. :)

Oldhand

02-06-2009, 09:28 PM

Here you are,derives my fav pair into a tough position.:cool:
I learn something from the previous AE, just look on how they play the game,
whether the enforce errors are overwhelming or not.That's my study case.

The winning matters, but other alternatives on judging shouldn't be forgone Here i am again, with a belief that they can.KKK/TBh Boleh. :)

All I'm saying is:

Koo Kien Keat & Tan Boon Heong have never had it so good going into a major tournament. If they can't pounce on this mix of timely luck and opportunity, they should go into permanent hiding or do something similar :o

Pemuda

02-06-2009, 10:43 PM

Quite true... FHF/CY will be the next biggest obstacle for them, closely followed by the Danish "dominator".

Never underestimate the INA's scratch pair though... ;)

I think the biggest obstacle for KKK/TBH will be themselves.

Pemuda

02-06-2009, 10:55 PM

Pemuda... you still label LWC as Jagoh Kampung? I do agree that he has yet to land a major title. But i think he has won titleS overseas. What is your point there? I think he deserve at least a compliment. If you refer our past players or some existing players as Jagoh Kampung.. i can still accept as no one has done that LCW did when comes to winning titles overseas. Maybe you can tell me why you still refer him as Jagoh Kampung. I seek to understand.

Yes, he has won titles outside Malaysia BUT as WR1, he has yet to do so. Thats my point.

To me, I consider as long as LCW as WR1 is unable to land a title outside his own bedroom, I consider him a jaguh kampung WR1. And as for past jaguh kampungs, I put our Rashid Sidek in this category. So, with LCW unable to win something away from Malaysia as WR1, I put LCW as a legend amongst the kampung champs solely because he got a precious OG silver.

I believe since the All England is held not in KL or KK, I think LCW will not be able to cope with the pressure of being the WR1 and competing away from home (without his usual nasi lemak, hokkien mee, mee rebus, milo tarik, popiah and all). He will crack under pressure. Plus there is also LD, though the man just returned from 'vacation' but nevertheless, LD is still LD. ;)

I hope, no, no, let me re-phrase my sentence, I would love to be proven wrong about LCW and see the lad win the AE. Shall we all form a circle, hold hands, close our eyes and shout out loud ; Malaysia Boleh!!!?

vching

02-06-2009, 10:56 PM

Dear Boleh folks,

The All England.

This is a major title. A prestigious event.

The last time we won that MS was back in 2003, HH. And before HH the last time we won it was in 1966, Tan Aik Huang. 1966, imagine that before HH's fluke shot.

Now, today we have a WR1 MS in Datuk Lee Chong Wei, who so far as WR1 is more of a jagoh kampung aiming to break his duck as far as winning a major title is concern. The lad is in good shape, at the peak of his career but can he hold his nerves in this year's AE?? This year is LCW's best and last chance to bag the AE. Why so? Here are my reasons:
At 26 he is at his peak ( generally Malaysian shuttlers will go downhill once they hit their late 20s)
Chinese shuttlers just coming back after a long lay off may be rusty etcBUT I feel two things are not in LCW's favour. And they are; the first being the All England is not held in KL or Kota Kinabalu. second, the All England is a major event and LCW has a tendency to get cold feet.

Ok, enough of LCW, lets look at our next best chance to win that All England - our MD.

The last time we won the AE MD was back in 2007 with our stylish, glamourous, loud and colourful KKK/TBH. Before KKK/TBH, the last time we won the AE MD was back in 1982, RS/JS.

2008 AE was a disaster for KKK/TBH as their ready to plunder in Europe battle cry turned out to be ready to blunder instead. KKK/TBH ended 2008 with no SS titles except the SSF and many here predicted KKK/TBH by winning the SSF are now on the up again. Whether they are really on the up, we will find out after the AE.

As for the rest, WS, XD, WD .... lets just say, we hope our shuttlers do their best, enjoy the sights, food and come home with souvenirs for their friends and family members. Yes, yes, I know we have a decent WD. But in reality, I feel our top WD pair is not really there yet. Yes, they have improved but they are not there yet.

My prediction for the MS & MD?

We are going to end up empty handed. LCW will choke again and lighting will not strike twice in the case of KKK/TBH.

I hope I am proven wrong though. And I hope the gold rings, earrings, chains, bracelets, tattoos, pendants, hair colour or what have nots will bring in the much needed fengshui or good mojo for LCW & KKK/TBH to win the AE. And coupled with the Malaysia Boleh entourage and marching band, who knows!!!

Malaysia Boleh!

Is that Pemuda or am I dreaming?

I thought he 'resigned?':p:p:p

Oldhand

02-06-2009, 10:59 PM

Yes, he has won titles outside Malaysia BUT as WR1, he has yet to do so. Thats my point.

To me, I consider as long as LCW as WR1 is unable to land a title outside his own bedroom, I consider him a jaguh kampung WR1. And as for past jaguh kampungs, I put our Rashid Sidek in this category. So, with LCW unable to win something away from Malaysia as WR1, I put LCW as a legend amongst the kampung champs solely because he got a precious OG silver.

I believe since the All England is held not in KL or KK, I think LCW will not be able to cope with the pressure of being the WR1 and competing away from home (without his usual nasi lemak, hokkien mee, mee rebus, milo tarik, popiah and all). He will crack under pressure. Plus there is also LD, though the man just returned from 'vacation' but nevertheless, LD is still LD. ;)

I hope, no, no, let me re-phrase my sentence, I would love to be proven wrong about LCW and see the lad win the AE. Shall we all form a circle, hold hands, close our eyes and shout out loud ; Malaysia Boleh!!!?
The others had better beware of 'Chinese vacations'!

Lin Dan took a similar break before the Olympics.
And look what it got him ;)

madbad

02-06-2009, 11:03 PM

LCW won't win AE 09 because of two words "Lin Dan".
- Lin Dan has entered 5 AE finals in a row since 2004 and won 3 of them(lost to Chen Hong in 05, and Chen Jin in 08)... now that he is even better than he was before, and the gap between him and other players has widen somewhat, so his chance of making it to the final of AE09 is quite high. Then say if LCW also makes it to the final and meet Lin Dan... consider the nightmares LCW has had since OG08 MS final night, he will certainly have cold feet, shaky knees and every other reasons for him to not perform and lose.:eek:

Unless your last name is Chen, otherwise good luck when you meet Lin Dan in AE... even Chen Yu lost in 07. haha

LD should face resistance from LCW, PG and TH, but he should come out on top.

KKK/TBH won't win AE 09 because of one person "Pjswift"
- She already made up an excuse for them to lose... "they already won it before". :rolleyes:

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Dang, that's funny :D

Looking forward also to the return of the Chinese brigade. Will be interesting to see how their new batch of WS players do.

jasonmarc

02-06-2009, 11:32 PM

Is that Pemuda or am I dreaming?

I thought he 'resigned?':p:p:p

100%.....dont U reconize him...?:D:D

apu4life

02-07-2009, 12:28 AM

Here's my prediction :

My fav, Taufik Hidayat winning AE MS 09(That is if he participates, which is likely the case i think) although i do want LCW to go far and Peter Gade aswell. Anything but LinDan or any other chinese player.

Like I said in the other post, I think KKK/TBH will go far in AE, but wont win it unfortunately, although i do hope they do. Look for an upset in MD, with the Danes winning it.

XD : English pair is winning it in finals IMO, although Widianto/Natsir and LYD/LHJ could also be potential winners. This should be a close one.

bananakid

02-07-2009, 12:32 AM

... but ... but .. do you think em' fengshui stuff with the numerous gold rings, chains, bracelets, pendants and hair colour coupled together with loud cheering and chanting of Malaysia Boleh will help bring luck to LCW & KKK/TBH?

Maybe LCW's numerous gold rings will distract LD :D

The additional weight from the gold rings, chains, bracelets, pendants and everything else will only make LCW & KKK/TBH slower, and weaker... LOL.:p

Probably better to try the "hit small people" method instead of fengshui. haha.

Oldhand

02-07-2009, 01:05 AM

The additional weight from the gold rings, chains, bracelets, pendants and everything else will only make LCW & KKK/TBH slower, and weaker... LOL.:p

Probably better to try the "hit small people" method instead of fengshui. haha.
To be fair, all those accoutrements and blings of metal, plastic and whatnot have disappeared.

What remains are the tattoos and the coloured hair - and they don't weigh extra, do they? :rolleyes:

limsy

02-07-2009, 01:06 AM

hmm.....my target for them is...lcw=final...koo/tan=semis...wong/chin=semis...

koo_fan

02-07-2009, 01:50 AM

hmm.....my target for them is...lcw=final...koo/tan=semis...wong/chin=semis...
KKK/TBH will be in final.My instinct and i got a dream last night.

Oldhand

02-07-2009, 02:02 AM

KKK/TBH will be in final.My instinct and i got a dream last night.
Speaking of dreams, let's hope this outing doesn't turn out to be a nightmare for them ;)

jasonmarc

02-07-2009, 02:04 AM

KKK/TBH will be in final.My instinct and i got a dream last night.

In your dream...?........my gosh.....:D...

jasonmarc

02-07-2009, 02:05 AM

Speaking of dreams, let's hope this outing doesn't turn out to be a nightmare for them ;)

They had it last year........lost early to lower rank pair........it was totally nighmare......:D:D

limsy

02-07-2009, 02:31 AM

well...the quality of md is so high nowdays...^^...many can beat one another...^^...

koo_fan

02-07-2009, 02:33 AM

Now, you guys are in a rush need to learn about girl's instinct.
im telling the truth.....

Oldhand

02-07-2009, 02:35 AM

hmm.....my target for them is...lcw=final...koo/tan=semis...wong/chin=semis...

well...the quality of md is so high nowdays...^^...many can beat one another...^^...
It appears you're already buying insurance.
I had the impression that you believed in nothing less than the title for these players ;)

limsy

02-07-2009, 02:41 AM

It appears you're already buying insurance.
I had the impression that you believed in nothing less than the title for these players ;)

hmm...welll...i hope julia can reach quater...and all the qualifiyer can make do main draw...:D

Oldhand

02-07-2009, 02:45 AM

Now, you guys are in a rush need to learn about girl's instinct.
im telling the truth.....
Perhaps it was some similar instinct that led Koo Kien Keat to personalise 'Glory' (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=933237&postcount=104) :rolleyes:
Now he must be educating himself about excision, electrocautery, dermabrasion, salabrasion and Q-switched Alexandrite :D

Pemuda

02-07-2009, 04:00 AM

Is that Pemuda or am I dreaming?

I thought he 'resigned?':p:p:p

Focus son, focus. This is a serious thread about Malaysia Boleh in the coming AE. And Malaysia Boleh is something we dont take lightly. It has put Malaysia amongst the top achieving nations in the world today with our tallest flag pole, largest pizza, number of eggs crushed in a minute etc.

george@chongwei

02-07-2009, 07:28 AM

wow, oldhand, looks like u very 'high' in this thread;):)
here we come:D

george@chongwei

02-07-2009, 07:30 AM

Is that Pemuda or am I dreaming?

I thought he 'resigned?':p:p:p
have you ever watched a movie called, 'The Return Of Pemuda'???:D:D
MALAYSIA BOLEH!:):p

george@chongwei

02-07-2009, 07:32 AM

It appears you're already buying insurance.
I had the impression that you believed in nothing less than the title for these players ;)
what's your comment on mas players in this tournament?
any comment?;)

koo_fan

02-07-2009, 07:49 AM

what's your comment on mas players in this tournament?
any comment?;)
George, based on my reviewed on our boss' post earlier,
For any failure,Chong Wei is forgiven.However, it's a complete disaster if our doubles couldn't make it to the top.

Tommy Susanto

02-07-2009, 08:31 AM

Tommy Susanto

02-07-2009, 08:34 AM

Speaking of dreams, let's hope this outing doesn't turn out to be a nightmare for them ;)

We hope this year's AE won't be a 1st round wipe-out for Team SIN:DRemember a couple of years back when it happened:p

Oldhand

02-07-2009, 10:36 AM

What's this about Singapore and Kendrick Lee?
Are you sure you posted in the right thread?

If in doubt, read the thread's title.
That usually helps :)

badadum

02-07-2009, 03:04 PM

But not so for the waltzy doubles pair.
They will deserve no sympathy at all ;)

Looks like the resident mod is favoring KKK/TBH in AE? fair enuff...but as stated before don't underestimate INA scratch pair and the Danes guard. ;)

koo_fan

02-07-2009, 03:11 PM

Looks like the resident mod is favoring KKK/TBH in AE? fair enuff...but as stated before don't underestimate INA scratch pair and the Danes guard. ;)
Oldhand is a free man.

Pemuda

02-07-2009, 06:56 PM

have you ever watched a movie called, 'The Return Of Pemuda'???:D:D
MALAYSIA BOLEH!:):p

Stay on the thread subject, will you?
Lets cut down on those mindless chatter that does nothing but increase your already bulging posts count.

Pemuda

02-07-2009, 06:57 PM

Looks like the resident mod is favoring KKK/TBH in AE? fair enuff...but as stated before don't underestimate INA scratch pair and the Danes guard. ;)

Well, KKK/TBH chances of winning is greater than 50%, remember?

Pemuda

02-07-2009, 06:59 PM

Same here, Kendrick Lee of SIN do not deserve sympathy at all. I guess he couldn't take the beatings afterward;)

Sorry mate, Kendrick Lee does not believe in the Boleh spirit. He dont count in this thread. ;)

badadum

02-07-2009, 09:23 PM

Well, KKK/TBH chances of winning is greater than 50%, remember?

So now Oldhand subscribed to that as well? I guess having it plastered all over the threads by someone do help.

koo_fan

02-07-2009, 09:35 PM

So now Oldhand subscribed to that as well? I guess having it plastered all over the threads by someone do help.
The more the merrier,anyway.
I don't know whether your 'kkk/tbh have more than 50% chance to win' is overwhelming or not, but kido and jjs are helping you too.

badadum

02-07-2009, 09:39 PM

The more the merrier,anyway.
I don't know whether your 'kkk/tbh have more than 50% chance to win' is overwhelming or not, but kido and jjs are helping you too.

Yeah...now working on CY/FHF and the Danes to lend me a hand too. :p

koo_fan

02-07-2009, 09:50 PM

These two, are in their hands.

I'm used to boast about my fav pair.:cool:
So,in ur theory poll,count my vote.:p

badadum

02-07-2009, 09:55 PM

These two, are in their hands.

I'm used to boast about my fav pair.:cool:
So,in ur theory poll,count my vote.:p

LOL, I think you're missing the point.
It's ok, I'll let your fellow MAS fans do the cheering. I've no vested interest in KKK/TBH performance and I'll be too busy trying to sort out this sudden quagmire with INA MD's. :(

koo_fan

02-07-2009, 10:03 PM

LOL, I think you're missing the point.
It's ok, I'll let your fellow MAS fans do the cheering. I've no vested interest in KKK/TBH performance and I'll be too busy trying to sort out this sudden quagmire with INA MD's. :(
Are in their hands - of course a hyperbole.
Take it easy.

Tommy Susanto

02-08-2009, 02:07 AM

What's this about Singapore and Kendrick Lee?
Are you sure you posted in the right thread?

If in doubt, read the thread's title.
That usually helps :)

I am not lying nor responsible for the many failures of team SIN either, am i? Let's just be fair about it, Mr. Administrator;) Everyone is watching over you now, just want to set the record straight:p You may delete my posts since you have this *power* Mr. Administrator:D

limsy

02-08-2009, 02:10 AM

I am not lying nor responsible for the many failures of team SIN either, am i? Let's just be fair about it, Mr. Administrator;) Everyone is watching over you now, just want to set the record straight:p You may delete my posts since you have this *power* Mr. Administrator:D

if u 1 2 discuse abt singapore badminton achievement or failure...u can just open a thread...;)...

Pemuda

02-08-2009, 02:56 AM

So now Oldhand subscribed to that as well? I guess having it plastered all over the threads by someone do help.

Not sure whether Oldhand subscribe to your KKK/TBH chances of winning is greater than 50% or just 50%. It is gonna be an interesting AE, especially with that greater than 50% and 50% thingy.

Oldhand

02-08-2009, 03:15 AM

badadum, if I were to pick a MD team to win at the All England, I'd choose the young Danes :)

koo_fan

02-08-2009, 04:08 AM

badadum, if I were to pick a MD team to win at the All England, I'd choose the young Danes :)
Really?
There goes one influential support for Mas Favourite.

badMania

02-08-2009, 04:38 AM

badadum, if I were to pick a MD team to win at the All England, I'd choose the young Danes :)

Err...Mathias Boe can beconsidered a veteran. He was born in 1969, making him 30 this year :o Carsten Mogensen is about 25 this year if I am not wrong, so, not exactly young either.

limsy

02-08-2009, 04:43 AM

Err...Mathias Boe can beconsidered a veteran. He was born in 1969, making him 30 this year :o Carsten Mogensen is about 25 this year if I am not wrong, so, not exactly young either.

well...if he is born on 1969....he should be 40 this year...:eek:...:confused:

badMania

02-08-2009, 05:10 AM

Err...Mathias Boe can beconsidered a veteran. He was born in 1969, making him 30 this year :o Carsten Mogensen is about 25 this year if I am not wrong, so, not exactly young either.

Sorry, it should be 1980. So, he's 29 this year. My bad :o It's Jens Eriksen who was born in 1969.

Loh

02-08-2009, 05:49 AM

badadum, if I were to pick a MD team to win at the All England, I'd choose the young Danes :)

I'm with you on this. :)

And if TH is in LCW's half, he will likely advance to meet LD in the finals. TH has even gone independent just to make sure that he could finally add the AE to his already impressive bag of titles! :cool:

badadum

02-08-2009, 08:36 AM

I'm with you on this. :)

And if TH is in LCW's half, he will likely advance to meet LD in the finals. TH has even gone independent just to make sure that he could finally add the AE to his already impressive bag of titles! :cool:

Allrite, 2 votes for the younger Danes....do I hear a third? :D
I'm still holding hope that MK/HS will participates, but if they don't...there's no possibility to send alternate pair from INA since the window has been closed. :(

Uncle Loh, I don't doubt TH is eyeing the elusive AE titles, but I seriously doubt that's the reason he went independent (it's all about $$$).

ants

02-08-2009, 08:46 AM

You know what guys... let me challenge all of you guys to keep mumm about AE until its over.. then you can talk all you want about AE. Lets not speculate etc..

koo_fan

02-08-2009, 09:15 AM

It is irresistable, unstoppable.
Tell me one magical solution?

badadum

02-08-2009, 09:22 AM

Why can't we speculate? There're tens of millions of professional folks in this world of sports whose job is nothing but post their speculations (not including the fans).

ants

02-08-2009, 09:28 AM

You can speculate of course.. just make sure you dont argue and lambast with anyone.
Anyway its a challenge... if you guys can keep mumm about AE until its over.

ctjcad

02-08-2009, 09:33 AM

..with nearly a month to go before the AE, and for discussion sake, let us have some entertainment...And we haven't heard from Pemuda's other fave BCer, X Ball, yet..;)

limsy

02-08-2009, 09:35 AM

..with nearly a month to go before the AE, and for discussion sake, let us have some entertainment...And we haven't heard from Pemuda's other fave BCer, X Ball, yet..;)

hmm...well...the thread will be heated when some bcer come to comment...;)

Pemuda

02-08-2009, 06:40 PM

You know what guys... let me challenge all of you guys to keep mumm about AE until its over.. then you can talk all you want about AE. Lets not speculate etc..

We speculate on everything. In business, we speculate. In sports, we speculate. In our work place, we speculate.

The only time where we dont speculate is when we are 6 feet under.

Loh

02-08-2009, 09:10 PM

Allrite, 2 votes for the younger Danes....do I hear a third? :D

Uncle Loh, I don't doubt TH is eyeing the elusive AE titles, but I seriously doubt that's the reason he went independent (it's all about $$$).

Initially, I thought TH has called it quits when he left PBSI. He could have retired and enjoyed his independence and still live a good life. But he said he still loves badminton and if he is prepared to train independently with his mentor coach Mulyo seeing to his needs (I hope Mulyo will beef up TH's fitness, especially his stamina), he has indirectly sounded a warning to his peers not to take him lightly. And the "elusive AE title" is one last one that he wants very, very badly! ;)

tjl_vanguard

02-08-2009, 09:25 PM

i myself believe they can do it... nth is impossible though... :D

X Ball

02-08-2009, 11:11 PM

GunBlade008

02-09-2009, 12:21 AM

X Ball

02-09-2009, 12:55 AM

But you speak as if you are a seer lol :rolleyes:. The Chinese team has been undergoing intense training I think, and LD will be the favorite to win the title with already 5 consecutive AE finals, 2 of which we can all agree that he 'gifted' to Chen Hong and Chen Jin.

Do I sound like a seer ? What a bummer !:D

Prove me wrong that one can stay away for a few months and then come back to win a major tournament - irrespective of the intense training.

Loh

02-09-2009, 01:04 AM

I thought X Ball was using the word "sNeer", which means "a contemptuous or mocking smile, remark, or tone" instead of "seer" (a person of supposed supernatural insight who sees visions of the future). :eek:

Yes PG is almost past prime, yet he displayed such youthful qualities to dismantle LCW the last time at the KO. "Almost" because one would have thought he is finished at 33 for MS at this world-class level, yet he seems to be playing better than before and he has master Frost to guide him this time. :rolleyes:

As for TH, ask the players themselves whether he should be rudely discounted and probably the reply would be: "Do so at your own peril"! :cool: And despite his irregularities, TH still holds two of the most important world badminton titles: the WC and OG. When the time comes for action, TH has shown he can deliver. What is to stop him from repeating history especially when the AE is what he is now craving after to complete his collection?

LD has been in hiding for a purpose. Surely one has already experienced the shrewdness of China's chief coach LYB, the great strategist who has caused the downfall of so many of LD's opponents. And if The Thing continues to be around all this time to coach and fortify LD's mental sharpness, even TH has to bring in his reserves to counter that.

Now, to say LD lacks match fitness just because he has not been participating in the last few SS tournaments, to the delight of his opponents, this is not exactly true. LD's teammates are more than a match to all the world's best players and to spar with them probably requires more than simply match fitness. For all we know, the uncanny LYB (almost typed LYD :p) may have ordered BCL and CJ combined to battle LD alone, two against one during match practices. Can any good player ask for more as sparring partners? Is this enough training for match fitness? Can LD turn rusty? Among the three of them they have met and beaten some of the world's best players. :D

Now who are LD's opponents' sparring partners? Are they much better than LD's teammates? :rolleyes:

huangkwokhau

02-09-2009, 01:11 AM

We speculate on everything. In business, we speculate. In sports, we speculate. In our work place, we speculate.

The only time where we dont speculate is when we are 6 feet under.
:D:D even under 6 feet, still speculating ..heaven or hell....

Loh

02-09-2009, 01:21 AM

:D:D even under 6 feet, still speculating ..heaven or hell....

Only when you're 6' under water! :D

limsy

02-09-2009, 02:53 AM

limsy

02-09-2009, 03:07 AM

ah...i smell something call wisdom...:D...btw....lin dan lost to a youngster in match....i nid to check before telling the name...i forget the name...sorry...:D

the name is the 23 years old lu yi....:rolleyes:...

koo_fan

02-09-2009, 03:07 AM

ah...i smell something call wisdom...:D...btw....lin dan lost to a youngster in match....i nid to check before telling the name...i forget the name...sorry...:D
This breaking news is still off?
Wow!

koo_fan

02-09-2009, 04:49 AM

Prove me wrong that one can stay away for a few months and then come back to win a major tournament - irrespective of the intense training.

It is redundant.It is a Repetition.Don't ever look down on other team.
Who played best,they win.
It doesn't matter you against who,if you are losing they are playing better badminton than you.There is no judgement to who's playing better when the game is still yet to be finished.

Pemuda

02-09-2009, 05:20 AM

LCW has his best chance to beat everyone in this AE.

With the Chinese being away for so long, I cannot see how they can just appear and win a big tournament like the AE - you may have the 'Pemuda' thinking but don't count me in. BAO and LD will struggle whether they like it or not -- they will be taken to 3 sets by players and wither near the 'money end'.

The only one to threaten is PG but I doubt he can repeat his performance against a fitter LCW. No disrespect to him but he gives away several years of youthfulness to LCW and it will count against him. If you are a diehard PG fan, sure, no argument from me if you think he will win. :)

All the rest are pretenders - Taufik will struggle. His years are wearing him down. If you are an Indonesian fan, don't believe me - I am not a Seer.

Agree, this year is LCW's best chance to win the AE, though I will add a little further, I would also say this year is his last chance as well.

Yes, the Chinese shuttlers will be back just in time for the AE and may be a little rusty and all. But never underestimate LD and co.

Last year, during the run up to the Beijing OG, there were a lot of talk and trumpeting of LCW winning the gold especailly after how he beat LD in the TC. In the end, we all saw what LD did to LCW in the final.

Yes, PG may be older and aging. But the AE is a major event and LCW's temperament is terribly suspect especially in a major event.

This is going to be an interesting AE, and if a half fit LD or any other Chinese shuttler bag that AE title, it is going to be more than a setback for our young Datuk.

Malaysia Boleh!

Oldhand

02-09-2009, 10:45 AM

Staying away for a while from the arena doesn't mean it's all gone to rust.
It might mean bigger, better and careful preparation for what lies ahead.

As mentioned earlier (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1086879&postcount=19)... :rolleyes:

koo_fan

02-09-2009, 12:27 PM

Lin dan proved it before.That point is strong enough.
But, i dont know if Lee Chong succeed to make it happen, we'll hear
-Of course, as Lin Dan is not fit enough.

LazyBuddy

02-09-2009, 12:36 PM

With the Chinese being away for so long, I cannot see how they can just appear and win a big tournament like the AE - you may have the 'Pemuda' thinking but don't count me in. BAO and LD will struggle whether they like it or not -- they will be taken to 3 sets by players and wither near the 'money end'.

I do not know about this.

If you say all of them did not play for a while, because of injury, then they might struggle, I may agree. However, simply because of "no show", I do not know where the struggle will come from.

Remember, the CHN team is hidding in the dark, and no one knows how they are doing right at the moment. Did they develop any new strategies? Did they work hard to over come their short comings? No one knows... However, they know everyone else, as everyone else was busy participating all the tournaments.

In the war strategy world, LCW and co. are under the bright sun lights, and their moves and process are video taped and reviewed by others. The CHN team, on the other hand are hidding in the dark, and who knows whether they can come out and give anyone a surprise attack? :rolleyes:

I do agree that some players (may even include LD) may need a few matches to warm up. However, usually the earlier round opponents are much weaker, and can not stop the CHN army. Yes, 1 or 2 upset is possible, 3 rubber sets are possible, but tell me count the entire team out... well, I do not know.. :cool:

cooler

02-09-2009, 01:11 PM

LCW has his best chance to beat everyone in this AE.

With the Chinese being away for so long, I cannot see how they can just appear and win a big tournament like the AE - you may have the 'Pemuda' thinking but don't count me in. BAO and LD will struggle whether they like it or not -- they will be taken to 3 sets by players and wither near the 'money end'.

I do not know about this.

If you say all of them did not play for a while, because of injury, then they might struggle, I may agree. However, simply because of "no show", I do not know where the struggle will come from.

Remember, the CHN team is hidding in the dark, and no one knows how they are doing right at the moment. Did they develop any new strategies? Did they work hard to over come their short comings? No one knows... However, they know everyone else, as everyone else was busy participating all the tournaments.

In the war strategy world, LCW and co. are under the bright sun lights, and their moves and process are video taped and reviewed by others. The CHN team, on the other hand are hidding in the dark, and who knows whether they can come out and give anyone a surprise attack? :rolleyes:

I do agree that some players (may even include LD) may need a few matches to warm up. However, usually the earlier round opponents are much weaker, and can not stop the CHN army. Yes, 1 or 2 upset is possible, 3 rubber sets are possible, but tell me count the entire team out... well, I do not know.. :cool: well, just look at xball's past record, he has trouble seeing the outcome of MAS players, what hope he has seeing into outcome of chinese players? Those 'bol-leh' glasses of his are thick, like coke bottle glasses. Maybe why he doesn't play PAW: because it will goes into trackable record.

Then again, if one touts something long enough and just by a blue moon chance it came true, he will milk that one time glory til the cow comes home.

Oldhand

02-09-2009, 11:54 PM

Well, it seems Kido & Setiawan are together again.
That's bad news for Malaysia Boleh at the AE :o

huangkwokhau

02-10-2009, 12:21 AM

Well, it seems Kido & Setiawan are together again.
That's bad news for Malaysia Boleh at the AE :o
well..if they go to AE...after that they wont be together..........

koo_fan

02-10-2009, 12:28 AM

Well, it seems Kido & Setiawan are together again.
That's bad news for Malaysia Boleh at the AE :o
KKK/TBh goes on.....

Loh

02-10-2009, 12:37 AM

KKK/TBh goes on.....

Steadily forward march
To Birmingham we'll bring
The prestigious AE cup
Malaysia Boleh, let's drink
:D:D:D

george@chongwei

02-10-2009, 01:04 AM

Well, it seems Kido & Setiawan are together again.
That's bad news for Malaysia Boleh at the AE :o
why bad news?
i thought malaysia team is ready to face the world???;);)
http://thestar.com.my/sports/story.asp?file=/2009/2/10/sports/3228764&sec=sports

jasonmarc

02-10-2009, 01:38 AM

well..if they go to AE...after that they wont be together..........

Well,.....they pair up just for AE only....? :rolleyes:

X Ball

02-10-2009, 02:36 AM

well, just look at xball's past record, he has trouble seeing the outcome of MAS players, what hope he has seeing into outcome of chinese players? Those 'bol-leh' glasses of his are thick, like coke bottle glasses. Maybe why he doesn't play PAW: because it will goes into trackable record.

Then again, if one touts something long enough and just by a blue moon chance it came true, he will milk that one time glory til the cow comes home.

I don't need to tout and I don't need to milk any glory. If stating the fact that I believe it is hard to win from a '3-month no show' is all to do with my 'boleh glasses', then you need a shrink quickly before it gets worse.

Oldhand

02-10-2009, 02:44 AM

why bad news?
i thought malaysia team is ready to face the world???;);)
http://thestar.com.my/sports/story.asp?file=/2009/2/10/sports/3228764&sec=sports

A three-day camp?
And some of them nearly collapsed??? :eek:

The China team would laugh at this.
Their recent camp was NOT a three-day affair ;)

limsy

02-10-2009, 02:49 AM

A three-day camp?
And some of them nearly collapsed??? :eek:

The China team would laugh at this.
Their recent camp was NOT a three-day affair ;)

hehe...its ok lar...to me...it is quite interesting...^^...:D

koo_fan

02-10-2009, 06:34 AM

A three-day camp?
And some of them nearly collapsed??? :eek:

The China team would laugh at this.
Their recent camp was NOT a three-day affair ;)
We are not pampering those athletes lor.This is the prove.

Oldhand

02-10-2009, 08:04 AM

We are not pampering those athletes lor.This is the prove.
"Nearly collapsed" needn't mean the drills were tough.
It could also be that the drilled weren't tough enough :rolleyes:

And the less said about China pampering anyone, the better!

Jagdpanther

02-10-2009, 08:20 AM

"Nearly collapsed" needn't mean the drills were tough.
It could also be that the drilled weren't tough enough :rolleyes:

And the less said about China pampering anyone, the better!
Mm... The training camp emphasized more in motivation building rather than stamina improvement or something like that.;)
Would you find any "money-in-rubbish-bins hunting" game in any physical drill?:p

Oldhand

02-10-2009, 08:32 AM

Mm... The training camp emphasized more in motivation building rather than stamina improvement or something like that.;)
Would you find any "money-in-rubbish-bins hunting" game in any physical drill?:p
Exactly my point!

Three days of paint-my-face and dirty-my-hands.... and, voila, everyone's ready to take on the world! :rolleyes:

A three-day camp?
And some of them nearly collapsed??? :eek:

The China team would laugh at this.
Their recent camp was NOT a three-day affair ;)

koo_fan

02-10-2009, 09:32 AM

"Nearly collapsed" needn't mean the drills were tough.
It could also be that the drilled weren't tough enough :rolleyes:

And the less said about China pampering anyone, the better!

Our motivational camp is tough enough.:eek::D
Imagine if it was a physical training camp.
China will not stand a chance.Perhaps.:D

Pemuda

02-10-2009, 07:13 PM

Pemuda

02-10-2009, 07:15 PM

why bad news?
i thought malaysia team is ready to face the world???;);)
http://thestar.com.my/sports/story.asp?file=/2009/2/10/sports/3228764&sec=sports

Are you saying a ra-ra 3 day Boleh camp will enable our shuttlers to win the AE?? :o

Pemuda

02-10-2009, 07:22 PM

A three-day camp?
And some of them nearly collapsed??? :eek:

The China team would laugh at this.
Their recent camp was NOT a three-day affair ;)

Boss, you must understand the Malaysia Boleh mindset.

World tallest flag pole, most eggs crushed with the wrist in a minute, largest pizza, space ride and tour ... these are all major achievements.

Malaysia Boleh!

Pemuda

02-10-2009, 07:27 PM

Our motivational camp is tough enough.:eek::D
Imagine if it was a physical training camp.
China will not stand a chance.Perhaps.:D

But China got all the major trophies in their cabinet. Ours is pretty bare ... OG gold ... zero, WC ... zero, AE ... once in a blue, blue and very blue moon, TC ... very very rare, NGP ... plenty, Kedah Open ... numerous, Penang Open ... too many to count. :D

That motivational camp was a holiday in the name of Malaysia Boleh. Our shuttlers vomitted because some are a bunch of weaklings who have been pampered and cant take a little heat.

In the run up to the TC last year, we too had a Boleh camp at PD. But what happened at the TC??

Loh

02-10-2009, 08:29 PM

Talking about military camp, I think years ago at the Singapore Open, the first time I saw the dramatic LD saluting to his fans with the China flag draped over his sweating body after his win, that was a very cute and commanding picture indeed! Maybe LD just completed his military service not too long ago then. It must have been physically tough since LD was superfit! ;)

bradmyster

02-10-2009, 08:51 PM

who cares if he wins or not hes still WORLD #1!!!!!!! <3 LCW win or lose he is still my idol

Pemuda

02-10-2009, 09:08 PM

who cares if he wins or not hes still WORLD #1!!!!!!! <3 LCW win or lose he is still my idol

Lets calm down a little. I know LCW is your idol and you got pictures of LCW plastered all over your bedroom and all. But having a major title like the AE nicely tucked away in your idol's cabinet would be a nice 'icing on the cake'.

If the AE is not important, why bother turning up in the first place? I mean its a 13 hour flight time to get there. Its cold in England. They dont serve authentic nasi lemak, teh tarik, sambal tumis, prawn mee, wan tan mee over there.

:p Malaysia Boleh

GunBlade008

02-10-2009, 11:14 PM

Do I sound like a seer ? What a bummer !:D

Prove me wrong that one can stay away for a few months and then come back to win a major tournament - irrespective of the intense training.

I think Lin Dan proved it when he won the Beijing gold after a while off.

Luckily we have the AE happening soon, so irrespective of what you or I think, we'll see the results soon enough won't we? ;)

And yes, you do sound a bit like a seer, can you give me 6 random numbers between 1 and 50? I will split my prize with you if I win the lottery :p

X Ball

02-10-2009, 11:29 PM

I think Lin Dan proved it when he won the Beijing gold after a while off.

Luckily we have the AE happening soon, so irrespective of what you or I think, we'll see the results soon enough won't we? ;)

And yes, you do sound a bit like a seer, can you give me 6 random numbers between 1 and 50? I will split my prize with you if I win the lottery :p

Fair enough, if you think so. If I get it wrong, I think the Chinese are going to be very tough to beat this year.

As for the Lottery Nos. try 6,12,29,17,43, 36 - don't forget to split with me (I am good at suing if you don't!):D

koo_fan

02-10-2009, 11:59 PM

In the run up to the TC last year, we too had a Boleh camp at PD. But what happened at the TC??

Are you getting stuck on generalizations..?
Malaysia BolehLians,Mancs, now, PD camp and Kuching camp?
Give me a break.:p.

Pemuda

02-11-2009, 03:37 AM

Are you getting stuck on generalizations..?
Malaysia BolehLians,Mancs, now, PD camp and Kuching camp?
Give me a break.:p.

You are barking up the wrong tree.
Did we not had a ra ra Boleh camp in PD before the TC?

Malaysia Boleh to you. ;)

koo_fan

02-11-2009, 10:22 AM

You are barking up the wrong tree.
Did we not had a ra ra Boleh camp in PD before the TC?

Malaysia Boleh to you. ;)
Now,come face the facts.U are generalizing.
This year ra ra(..??) Boleh Camp in Kuching might help the players more than the PD camp.
No judgement until you or me are proven wrong.Deal.

Lastly,Malaysia Boleh to you too.

GunBlade008

02-11-2009, 01:22 PM

Fair enough, if you think so. If I get it wrong, I think the Chinese are going to be very tough to beat this year.

As for the Lottery Nos. try 6,12,29,17,43, 36 - don't forget to split with me (I am good at suing if you don't!):D

Nice, off to the lottery booth! :D:D:D

Noridayu

02-11-2009, 01:51 PM

Pemuda

02-11-2009, 03:32 PM

Now,come face the facts.U are generalizing.
This year ra ra(..??) Boleh Camp in Kuching might help the players more than the PD camp.
No judgement until you or me are proven wrong.Deal.

Lastly,Malaysia Boleh to you too.

Why is this year's boleh camp different than the one in PD?? Is it because of the vomitting and etc?

koo_fan

02-11-2009, 05:08 PM

Why is this year's boleh camp different than the one in PD?? Is it because of the vomitting and etc?

U been there?No.
Me neither.

Oldhand

02-11-2009, 06:37 PM

Pemuda

02-11-2009, 07:30 PM

U been there?No.
Me neither.

Yang, no I was not there. I was asking you a question why is this year's boleh get together different than the one in PD based on your below statement;

This year ra ra(..??) Boleh Camp in Kuching might help the players more than the PD camp.

Yang, dont tell me now you forgot what you wrote pulak? :o

Apa ni, Yang?? Pusing sini pusing sana.

Pemuda

02-11-2009, 08:50 PM

I as Malaysian die-hard fan will stand strong behind my beloved players as I knew that they undergone tremendous training program and mental training in order to battle well in AE. A true fan will stand strong whether in rain or shine. If we believe that Mas players can do it, they will able sense our body language and thus they became more confident. I do not target any goal in AE but I want them to take it one step at a time and eventually hope that they can make it this time round. I do not want to give unnecessary pressure to my beloved players. I will always pray for their sucess.

I think it is a good thing to have die hard fans, in any sport as a matter of fact.

But this thread is not about how strong our support or undying love to LCW or Malaysian shuttlers. This thread is about whether we can win the AE this year since the current MS WR1 is our very own Datuk LCW and our 'on the up again' KKK/TBH (after their SSF win) can win their 2nd AE title.

Some have responded that the AE is not important. My question then is if it is not important, why bother going to the AE in the first place?

We all know this year AE is LCW's best chance to land his first major title. The lad is in peak form. LD & co just coming back and may not be match fit. The only thing standing in his way is his own temperament. Can he handle the pressure and win away from home?

If we look at the AE record in the last 5 years, the MS is clearly dominated, I mean owned by LD & gang. So, it is going to be a tall order mentally for LCW to win his first major title and I believe LCW really need to win the AE to really justify his WR1 status.

tjl_vanguard

02-11-2009, 10:02 PM

MAS boleh!! haha

koo_fan

02-12-2009, 03:03 AM

Yang, dont tell me now you forgot what you wrote pulak? :o
Apa ni, Yang?? Pusing sini pusing sana.

Takde pusing pun.Read again.:p

We cannot regard this camp to to be the same with the PD one.We cannot regard the outcome of AE to be the same with Thomas Cup.
The start list of our team,is not so different,but still different.
Past failure cannot be the barrier of our next success

Well, if this thread is about whether we are capable to have finals or even better, any AE title,Lee Chong Wei is capable,kkk/tbh too.
The question is who played better that day.
I am positive.You want to be realistic, negative and all.Leave it to you.
I am here to share, and we might share different perspectives.

robin7

02-12-2009, 05:52 AM

I just read the first page and felt bored. The same issues are debated over again and again...

CONCLUSIONS:
(1) As World #1, LCW has to win majors such as AE or WC. (Forget about his Datukship as it's not his fault of being awarded the title!)
(2) KKK/TBH have to redeem themselves in the absense of some top pairs.

limsy

02-12-2009, 05:55 AM

I just read the first page and felt bored. The same issues are debated over again and again...

CONCLUSIONS:
(1) As World #1, LCW has to win majors such as AE or WC.

WELL...i wonder is the reader will felt bored as stop come to bc...as...the arguement is...same as 2 years ago...:eek:...hehe...

Noridayu

02-12-2009, 06:05 AM

Er, when did all this happen? :eek:
Sorry, I cannot reveal to you.

limsy

02-12-2009, 06:11 AM

Sorry, I cannot reveal to you.

ya...how can we tell our opponent our secret???correct kak ayu???hehe...well
uncle oldhand...u can ask lyb to bring u in to watch their winter training?if yes...we can tell u too...:p...pls provide photo as proof..:p

Pemuda

02-12-2009, 06:36 AM

I just read the first page and felt bored. The same issues are debated over again and again...

If you are bored, may I suggest you visit our world tallest flag pole.

limsy

02-12-2009, 06:38 AM

our world tallest flag pole.

as a fact...i can bet with anyone...this word appear more than 50 times...;)...not sure if it more than 100 times...:rolleyes:

Pemuda

02-12-2009, 06:40 AM

as a fact...i can bet with anyone...this word appear more than 50 times...;)...not sure if it more than 100 times...:rolleyes:

Ok, I accept your bet. Show me it appeared more than 50 times.

Pemuda

02-12-2009, 06:42 AM

ya...how can we tell our opponent our secret???correct kak ayu???hehe...well
uncle oldhand...u can ask lyb to bring u in to watch their winter training?if yes...we can tell u too...:p...pls provide photo as proof..:p

Well, whatever our secret/s, I hope it will work in the AE.

limsy

02-12-2009, 06:44 AM

Ok, I accept your bet. Show me it appeared more than 50 times.

sorry for off topic...i will ask mod to delete this few post after i shown to pemuda...bet on what???pemuda??

Pemuda

02-12-2009, 06:46 AM

sorry for off topic...i will ask mod to delete this few post after i shown to pemuda...bet on what???pemuda??

How about RM300? Please show me proof that it appeared more than 50 times. If more, I will bank in the cash to your bank account(please provide), if less, you do likewise.

Deal?

limsy

02-12-2009, 06:49 AM

How about RM300? Please show me proof that it appeared more than 50 times. If more, I will bank in the cash to your bank account(please provide), if less, you do likewise.

Deal?

well...u looks confident...its ok...i accept...and forget to tell u...as i search for ur 1st page of ur post...already saw twice...;)

Pemuda

02-12-2009, 06:53 AM

well...u looks confident...its ok...i accept...and forget to tell u...as i search for ur 1st page of ur post...already saw twice...;)

Twice?? Oh great then:D. Very quickly then show me the proof, more than 50 times and pm me your account number as I am very very very looking forward to bank in RM300 into your bank account. I am sooooo happy.

But if <less than 50 times, you pay me RM300, ok?

So, very quickly pm me your account number, ok??

Quick, quick please.

* I will route this to the pm :p

limsy

02-12-2009, 07:29 AM

well...i and pemuda cant reach the agreement of bet...so...the bet is been canceled...and...i have asked mod to delete it as it is off topic...:)

Pemuda

02-12-2009, 07:32 AM

well...i and pemuda cant reach the agreement of bet...so...the bet is been canceled...and...i have asked mod to delete it as it is off topic...:)

limsy, please dont distort. The bet is on per your post #128. Here it is as stated by you ; http://www.badmintonforum.com/vb/showpost.php?p=1089827&postcount=128

My stand is per what I said in the above posting.

Wong8Egg

02-12-2009, 03:55 PM

well...i and pemuda cant reach the agreement of bet...so...the bet is been canceled...and...i have asked mod to delete it as it is off topic...:)

Haven't been to this forum for awhile, but thanks for making my LOL of the day. :D

Limsy boleh.

X Ball

02-12-2009, 07:29 PM

Er, when did all this happen? :eek:

All happened 'under your nose' !:D:eek:

Noridayu

02-13-2009, 09:23 AM

ya...how can we tell our opponent our secret???correct kak ayu???hehe...well
uncle oldhand...u can ask lyb to bring u in to watch their winter training?if yes...we can tell u too...:p...pls provide photo as proof..:p
Yes limsy. If I have information about my favourite team, I will not reveal it. I am Malaysian devoted fan.

Pemuda

02-13-2009, 06:09 PM

Well, I hope our 'top secret' training camp where our shuttlers had their faces painted and scrounging through garbage bins will give them an extra edge at the AE.

jon_91

02-13-2009, 06:48 PM

koo_fan

02-13-2009, 07:09 PM

BTW...permai campside(kuching)...i noe wat is it like....i have been there b4...n tht campside....it good for the national players

Really, i think no matter how good the camp was, the players must be able to adapt the significance of being there.
Go Go Malaysia!We're behind you.
Go for with the title.

Oldhand

02-13-2009, 10:51 PM

Rexy has already declared that he "will not be too disappointed" if his players don't win at the AE!

Now, is that insurance or indifference? :rolleyes:

Loh

02-13-2009, 11:01 PM

Rexy has already declared that he "will not be too disappointed" if his players don't win at the AE!

Now, is that insurance or indifference? :rolleyes:

Some may count this as "reverse psychology". :rolleyes:

Just think if you're a high performance coach, would you want your charges to win at tournaments? ;)

Therefore, don't you believe in Rexy's indifference! :D

leonardklh

02-13-2009, 11:10 PM

malaysia player will be leaving on the 27th to all england!! for german open, the player will be leaving on the 21st...

Oldhand

02-13-2009, 11:14 PM

Some may count this as "reverse psychology". :rolleyes:

Just think if you're a high performance coach, would you want your charges to win at tournaments? ;)

Therefore, don't you believe in Rexy's indifference! :D

Of course, Rexy has always been wanting them to win.
Sadly, they're found wanting when it comes to winning! :p

X Ball

02-14-2009, 01:07 AM

Of course, Rexy has always been wanting them to win.
Sadly, they're found wanting when it comes to winning!

Don't count on it ! It is when you least expect it, it will happen. Rexy is an old fox - cunning and he could be as scheming as anyone.

KKK-TBH are capable on the day - as much as one wants to criticise them for the lack of consistency, we must recognise, they can come on strong.

Special : my bet with anyone (for drinks, only 'drinkers' need bet here :D) is that LCW will win AE and so will KKK-TBH. As I am taking a 'double' here, the bet is 2:1 in my favour (so if I win, you buy two drinks and if I lose, I buy you 1 -- of course, we would not just have one drink or two as it would be against my norm :) ).

pajrul

02-14-2009, 01:39 AM

waaah an optimistic malaysian, something rare and very special indeed. made my day. you gave me hope brother, tq heheheheh

Don't count on it ! It is when you least expect it, it will happen. Rexy is an old fox - cunning and he could be as scheming as anyone.

KKK-TBH are capable on the day - as much as one wants to criticise them for the lack of consistency, we must recognise, they can come on strong.

Special : my bet with anyone (for drinks, only 'drinkers' need bet here :D) is that LCW will win AE and so will KKK-TBH. As I am taking a 'double' here, the bet is 2:1 in my favour (so if I win, you buy two drinks and if I lose, I buy you 1 -- of course, we would not just have one drink or two as it would be against my norm :) ).

X Ball

02-14-2009, 03:03 AM

waaah an optimistic malaysian, something rare and very special indeed. made my day. you gave me hope brother, tq heheheheh

And it is not blind faith ! :D

george@chongwei

02-14-2009, 03:22 AM

Rexy has already declared that he "will not be too disappointed" if his players don't win at the AE!

Now, is that insurance or indifference? :rolleyes:
easy,
just ask rexy mainaky himself:D:D

koo_fan

02-14-2009, 05:12 AM

Rexy has already declared that he "will not be too disappointed" if his players don't win at the AE!

The fans too, if they've played the best.
We didn't ask much, as long as the game is worth to be watch, we shall enjoy the day.

Now, is that insurance or indifference?
I don't think it's one of both.Now, he came as a real coach,when his players acted like real players.When the disputes were gone, we've seen a group of people moving forward as one.

eRa@에라

02-14-2009, 07:09 AM

Maybe it's Rexy's way of reducing the pressure to his players... if he expects too much, they may perform rather badly... Looking at the China AE's line up... I admit of having 50-50 feeling about our players performance in AE but no, I'm not losing hope... cos I definitely wanna see LCW and koo/tan win ... Go Malaysia!

Oldhand

02-14-2009, 09:58 AM

Don't count on it ! It is when you least expect it, it will happen. Rexy is an old fox - cunning and he could be as scheming as anyone.

KKK-TBH are capable on the day - as much as one wants to criticise them for the lack of consistency, we must recognise, they can come on strong.

Special : my bet with anyone (for drinks, only 'drinkers' need bet here :D) is that LCW will win AE and so will KKK-TBH. As I am taking a 'double' here, the bet is 2:1 in my favour (so if I win, you buy two drinks and if I lose, I buy you 1 -- of course, we would not just have one drink or two as it would be against my norm :) ).
I'm hardly a betting man but this is irresistible.
I'll take the bet if we agree on Iced Lemon Tea :cool:

Loh

02-14-2009, 11:57 AM

I'm hardly a betting man but this is irresistible.
I'll take the bet if we agree on Iced Lemon Tea :cool:

What is a friend for?
I shall accompany you all the way.
And X Ball can take his time to come to Singapore.
Clarke Quay seems to be his favourite. :D:D:D

Oldhand

02-14-2009, 08:52 PM

What is a friend for?
I shall accompany you all the way.
And X Ball can take his time to come to Singapore.
Clarke Quay seems to be his favourite. :D:D:D
Right then, you better get ready to go.
There's no way I can lose this bet :cool:

X Ball

02-14-2009, 10:23 PM

I'm hardly a betting man but this is irresistible.
I'll take the bet if we agree on Iced Lemon Tea :cool:

I dread that I have to drink two ICE LEMON TEA.:D

However, for you I will make the exception. You are on ! :eek:

No more ICE lemon tea bets please.:rolleyes::D

X Ball

02-14-2009, 10:24 PM

What is a friend for?
I shall accompany you all the way.
And X Ball can take his time to come to Singapore.
Clarke Quay seems to be his favourite. :D:D:D

You need to drink a beer at least. And me two beers, if you lose.:D

Loh

02-14-2009, 10:52 PM

You need to drink a beer at least. And me two beers, if you lose.:D

The pleasure is mine if you win as a celebration for Malaysia Boleh! Wish Pemuda can join us too! :D:):p

george@chongwei

02-15-2009, 12:10 AM

I'm hardly a betting man but this is irresistible.
I'll take the bet if we agree on Iced Lemon Tea :cool:
oldhand, oldhand:eek::rolleyes:

george@chongwei

02-15-2009, 12:14 AM

The pleasure is mine if you win as a celebration for Malaysia Boleh! Wish Pemuda can join us too! :D:):p
if beer, its going to be a NO for him.
if ICE lemon tea, its a YES for him:D:D
kurang manis(low sugar):p

Loh

02-15-2009, 04:09 AM

if beer, its going to be a NO for him.
if ICE lemon tea, its a YES for him:D:D
kurang manis(low sugar):p

And what about you, very young man?
Milk with .... apa?
Maybe teh tarik huh? :p

jutawin

02-15-2009, 06:01 AM

All the best to lee Chong Wei...
http://opi.yahoo.com/online?u=jutex_tjoe&m=g&t=8%20%5d (ymsgr:sendIM?jutex_tjoe)

koo_fan

02-15-2009, 07:04 AM

Aduh guys!Betting again?
Now,my fav mode involved.

Oldhand

02-15-2009, 08:24 AM

Aduh guys!Betting again?
Now,my fav mode involved.
I don't see this as a bet.
It's more of a certainty.
X_Ball (and his choices) don't stand a chance ;)

george@chongwei

02-15-2009, 10:02 AM

And what about you, very young man?
Milk with .... apa?
Maybe teh tarik huh? :p
just plain water will do:D
ya know, good for health of course:)

Loh

02-15-2009, 10:04 AM

I don't see this as a bet.
It's more of a certainty.
X_Ball (and his choices) don't stand a chance ;)

Oh no, Mr Oldhand, surely you want to give some face to Miss koo.fan. ;)

X Ball

02-15-2009, 10:20 PM

I don't see this as a bet.
It's more of a certainty.
X_Ball (and his choices) don't stand a chance ;)

THat is what they said before LCW won the IO 2008 (and after he got killed in the WC). And the same for KKK-TBH when they won the AE the last time.

I will be having the last laugh - I remember it was sweet. Now if I can drink two Lemon Tea, I am pretty sure it will be real sweet, although I prefer a beer.:D

limsy

02-15-2009, 11:17 PM

THat is what they said before LCW won the IO 2008 (and after he got killed in the WC). And the same for KKK-TBH when they won the AE the last time.

2008 didnt have wc...;)

GunBlade008

02-15-2009, 11:22 PM

THat is what they said before LCW won the IO 2008 (and after he got killed in the WC). And the same for KKK-TBH when they won the AE the last time.

I will be having the last laugh - I remember it was sweet. Now if I can drink two Lemon Tea, I am pretty sure it will be real sweet, although I prefer a beer.:D

Hehehe, bad news X Ball, we lost the lotto, TWICE :(.

koo_fan

02-15-2009, 11:42 PM

Hehehe, bad news X Ball, we lost the lotto, TWICE :(.
That is why...betting is a waste.

george@chongwei

02-16-2009, 12:41 AM

That is why...betting is a waste.
but sometimes its fun:p

X Ball

02-16-2009, 12:58 AM

2008 didnt have wc...;)

Hahaha, I meant the last WC where our LCW lost.:D:eek: Now you make me lose lotto twice to GunBlade :D

X Ball

02-16-2009, 01:00 AM

Hehehe, bad news X Ball, we lost the lotto, TWICE :(.

WHAT ?!!!! Not even a small win - money back type?:eek:

limsy

02-16-2009, 01:00 AM

Hahaha, I meant the last WC where our LCW lost.:D:eek: Now you make me lose lotto twice to GunBlade :D
2007 WC...2007 IO...;)

Pemuda

02-16-2009, 01:22 AM

THat is what they said before LCW won the IO 2008 (and after he got killed in the WC). And the same for KKK-TBH when they won the AE the last time.

I will be having the last laugh - I remember it was sweet. Now if I can drink two Lemon Tea, I am pretty sure it will be real sweet, although I prefer a beer.:D

Dude, I like your optimism.

I see the Malaysia Boleh spirit is very much alive.

jutawin

02-16-2009, 02:04 AM

Everything is possible..
http://opi.yahoo.com/online?u=jutex_tjoe&m=g&t=14 %5d (ymsgr:sendIM?jutex_tjoe)

koo_fan

02-16-2009, 05:12 AM

but sometimes its fun:p
Yeah..sometimes kan?
Most of the times..?

koo_fan

02-16-2009, 05:25 AM

Dude, I like your optimism.

I see the Malaysia Boleh spirit is very much alive.
i'd like to believe this came from your heart.
-A bit sentimental-:p

Han

02-16-2009, 04:16 PM

i'd like to believe this came from your heart.
-A bit sentimental-:p

The last time we expect the Malaysian player to win in major event and actually won was ... ? Don't be too optimistic as we should know our players too well by now, I only hope they put up great fight before bowing out. Anything better than that is considered bonus! Yes, include our ace, Lee Chong Wei!

koo_fan

02-16-2009, 10:03 PM

The last time we expect the Malaysian player to win in major event and actually won was ... ? Don't be too optimistic as we should know our players too well by now, I only hope they put up great fight before bowing out. Anything better than that is considered bonus! Yes, include our ace, Lee Chong Wei!
Be too optimistic.
The only Gates' problem.

limsy

02-16-2009, 11:11 PM

well...i dont think there is many ppl expecting mas to win in ae...they have learned they lesson...

Oldhand

02-17-2009, 01:00 AM

well...i dont think there is many ppl expecting mas to win in ae...they have learned they lesson...

You are mistaken.
I'd say there are too many expectants.

Right here, there's X_Ball, george, koo_fan, jutawin and you :rolleyes:

limsy

02-17-2009, 01:07 AM

You are mistaken.
I'd say there are too many expectants.

Right here, there's X_Ball, george, koo_fan, jutawin and you :rolleyes:

haha...my word is win in ae...mine is only the stage perdiction....is tat mean to win ae title also??:eek:...i see...i wonder why my teacher didnt teach me...:crying:

george@chongwei

02-17-2009, 01:29 AM

You are mistaken.
I'd say there are too many expectants.

Right here, there's X_Ball, george, koo_fan, jutawin and you :rolleyes:
and you are one of them in the list of against the MAS and expect the unexpected in the AE, ..am i right;):rolleyes::rolleyes:?

koo_fan

02-17-2009, 01:36 AM

and you are one of them in the list of against the MAS and expect the unexpected in the AE, ..am i right;):rolleyes::rolleyes:?
Oldhand is too much kind to predict a failure.:D:p

george@chongwei

02-17-2009, 01:47 AM

Oldhand is too much kind to predict a failure.:D:p
and that's 1 of the 'reason' thats your favorite moderator in this forum;)

koo_fan

02-17-2009, 02:22 AM

and that's 1 of the 'reason' thats your favorite moderator in this forum;)
One point for George!Bravo!

george@chongwei

02-17-2009, 04:04 AM

One point for George!Bravo!
ditto to that;)
now im just hoping and praying that your fav mod won't be pressing the ban button on me and you:mad::D:D

Oldhand

02-17-2009, 06:35 AM

The draw doesn't look too bright for Malaysia's chances!

ditto to that;)
now im just hoping and praying that your fav mod won't be pressing the ban button on me and you:mad::D:D
george, if it ever comes to that, no button will do justice.

limsy

02-17-2009, 06:41 AM

hope cwf can enter main draw to face lin dan...but...i think kbh will fight for his life...

lcw should atleast reach semis...but i think he will enter final...

linda and porntip is tough one...but i think lydia can enter main draw...

julia should be able to beat ella...hope she give xhw or hhy a tough fight...

limsy

02-17-2009, 07:57 AM

razif/cps should rise from now on...if not...it will be too late for them...24 already...:rolleyes:...

i wonder how far fuzzy can go???:rolleyes:

for koo/tan...hmm...hope they can go as further than fuzzy...:p

ang li peng in action again..^^...hope she can go far...

haw/lim,goh/ng should be able to clear the 1st hurdle...2nd rough is tough...

for wong/chin...is time to beat zhang/zhao again...:rolleyes:...hope they can reach semis...and have a good fight with du/yu...:D...

for xd...all 3 pair tat play in qualify round...should advance to main draw...hope koo/ng can beat neilsen/pedersen...:D

Pemuda

02-17-2009, 08:04 AM

http://www.thestar.com.my/sports/story.asp?file=/2009/2/17/sports/3282387&sec=sports

We had a big do recently and our Sports Minister is very confident that Malaysia will land our first historic OG gold in London 2012 (we were also very confident to land our first gold in Beijing last year ... but that boleh dream is now water under the bridge).

3 sports have been identified as Malaysia's best gold medal potential i.e. badminton, cycling and archery with badminton being Malaysia's best hope.

For me, this is all typical Malaysia Boleh sabre rattling. Archery and cycling, forget it we are nowhere near world class, period. Lets not kid ourselves.

As for badminton, why look so far ahead to 2012? If our shuttlers cant win the AE this year, how are we gonna win the OG gold in 2012?

Seriously, come 2012 our kampung WR1 MS will be 30 years old. If the lad cant win in Beijing at his peak, he aint gonna do it on his way down. Plus historically, our shuttlers are known to be on the downhill once they hit their late 20s. Other than LCW, we got no one else other than HH, WCH, RH etc. And dont be surprise if we take the likes of HH to the TC next year.

In the MD, I really dont see KKK/TBH or any other pairs making the step up to seriously challenge for the gold in 2012.

Yes, we have some juniors MS and MD on the side but I dont see them as potential world beaters. They will make some noise here and there but they are certainly no world beaters.

Malaysia should work towards winning the AE and then the WC first before we talk about that OG gold in 2012. If we cant win the AE & WC, lets not even dream of that first OG gold in 2012. I feel we should have instead work towards 2016 as a more realistic goal.

Eferata

02-17-2009, 09:29 AM

koo_fan

02-17-2009, 11:02 AM

OneToughBirdie

02-17-2009, 11:13 AM

I think looking forward for gold is something that motivate us to always do better. Should one look forward only when AE is won? Planning now is important then later... boosting up players confident can be done anytime..
I feel quite sad with some negative remarks...when it is not that positive...

AE is commonly accepted as one of 4 so-called grand slams of baddy where the world's best attended, therefore it is a good measuring yardstick for MAS players esp when BAM said baddy, cycling and archery has OG12 gold potentials. If MAS cannot win gold in AE, really what are the chances of gold in OG12 when the game is again played in England. As for planning now, with LCW on the downside of his career come London, who are MAS golden boys and girls? The next highest rank players are WCH and HH, that is sad when BAM has put so much $$$ into this game. $$$ wise cannot blame MAS government but administration in running this sport is another question.
Hype and bolehs to boost confidence and make it sound positive so be 'happy not to worry' mentality, well I rather have someone tell me the honest truth than blind faith that failed each time. Pemuda is telling the way straight-up and you will see his reasoning in his above post, and it is right.
I opine that unless someone better than LCW plays in OG12, then it is difficult for MAS to better the silver medal LCW got in OG08. If you like positive sounding message, what happens if MAS fail to get gold in any sport in OG12?

koo_fan

02-17-2009, 11:43 AM

AE is commonly accepted as one of 4 so-called grand slams of baddy where the world's best attended, therefore it is a good measuring yardstick for MAS players esp when BAM said baddy, cycling and archery has OG12 gold potentials. If MAS cannot win gold in AE, really what are the chances of gold in OG12 when the game is again played in England. As for planning now, with LCW on the downside of his career come London, who are MAS golden boys and girls? The next highest rank players are WCH and HH, that is sad when BAM has put so much $$$ into this game. $$$ wise cannot blame MAS government but administration in running this sport is another question.
Hype and bolehs to boost confidence and make it sound positive so be 'happy not to worry' mentality, well I rather have someone tell me the honest truth than blind faith that failed each time. Pemuda is telling the way straight-up and you will see his reasoning in his above post, and it is right.
I opine that unless someone better than LCW plays in OG12, then it is difficult for MAS to better the silver medal LCW got in OG08. If you like positive sounding message, what happens if MAS fail to get gold in any sport in OG12?

It would not get better either if we stuck on being 'realistic'@negative.
Perhaps we should also consider to be supportive and posting suggestions, at least.It will provide the team with extra help.Which is the utmost priority here.
Isn't it?
Don't ever think that it's a fine feeling to support a losing team.It is a responsibility to give support, i would put it this way.
I am sharing an opinion.You can remain unhurt, forever by being realistic etc.
The choice is yours.

OneToughBirdie

02-17-2009, 05:25 PM

It would not get better either if we stuck on being 'realistic'@negative.
Perhaps we should also consider to be supportive and posting suggestions, at least.It will provide the team with extra help.Which is the utmost priority here.
Isn't it?
Don't ever think that it's a fine feeling to support a losing team.It is a responsibility to give support, i would put it this way.
I am sharing an opinion.You can remain unhurt, forever by being realistic etc.
The choice is yours.

Are you saying you are putting out all these positive ‘bolehs’ and unconditional supports as a responsible way to support the team. I think the opposite is quite true, that pressure and high expectations have a negative effect on the players.
Other posters, me included, support MAS team but I am merely stating the facts, being realistic and not thumping chest predicting gold winners for MAS when it was proven time and time again, that whenever someone predicts gold for MAS, it screwed up big time.
The reason the Sport Minister targets OG12 gold medal in baddy, archery and cycling, those targets are based on the athletes’ current world ranking, in the case of LCW, he is WR#1 and we know the ranking system is a fluke when the WR#2 is a better player. Not to mention Dato will be 30 by OG12. Of course, I would be happy if Dato can prove me wrong in OG12. But let's see AE12 first being a major all the elite players are present and a fresh LD and CJ waiting. In fact, the first round meeting between LCW and Lu Yi is very tricky, watch out. If I am a beer drinker, what better opportunity than given 2 free beers to bet with XBall right now, except it is hard to collect free beers here.
The baddy landscape in MAS is bleak, with LCW eventual retirement. MAS would be desperately searching for a new hero and at this moment, there is none worthy successor despite the huge govt funding towards baddy. Can you imagine if a baddy fanatic INA or even DEN will to be blessed with such a generous contributor (actually it is the tax-payers), what players can INA produce and if failure after failure for that elusive gold, can the INA public keep tolerating or calling for heads to roll?
I applaud MAS for her funding support, consider LCW with limited education (I heard he was a high school drop-out) can achieve millionaire status playing baddy and driving bimmer, how much more incentive does anyone needs. The sky the limit in MAS for baddy players…MAS Boleh!!!

koo_fan

02-17-2009, 09:45 PM

See?'MAS would be desperately searching for a new hero" etc is negative.I don't agree.
However,you can have it your way.No problem.

If the baseless targets is your argument here, fine.But mine is you are no one to predict the future.Till then, i am supporting.
I am realistic enough to not saying there's now way to lose.

If Lee Chong Wei is a millionaire with a limited education.
Let us talk about Ronnie first.

koo_fan

02-17-2009, 09:59 PM

Yes, we have some juniors MS and MD on the side but I dont see them as potential world beaters. They will make some noise here and there but they are certainly no world beaters.

BAM has actually come with a good proposal with promising future stars.
What's left is a good implemetation.

george@chongwei

02-18-2009, 01:49 AM

The draw doesn't look too bright for Malaysia's chances!

george, if it ever comes to that, no button will do justice.
that's for sure, oldhand:cool:
btw, the draw doesn't mean any result, anything can happen;)

Pemuda

02-18-2009, 07:06 AM

BAM has actually come with a good proposal with promising future stars.
What's left is a good implemetation.

In badminton, our best bets are in the MS & MD. At present in the MS, we got no one other than LCW but he will be an 'old man' come 2012 plus he has yet to win a major title todate. In the MD, our prospects look shaky at best. And if we think KKK/TBH can deliver the gold in 2012 thats a fantasy I am afraid. As for our back up shuttlers, I doubt any of them can make the step up by 2012.

If we think (more like hope and pray actually) that LCW can deliver that gold in 2012 then the AE this year (plus the WC) is a good yardstick. If he or KKK/TBH or any of our other shuttlers cant win the AE or WC, then lets be honest about winning that OG gold in 2012. We are talking about that OG gold here not some Sukma or SEA games gold. We aint gonna win that OG gold by shouting out aloud Malaysia Boleh.

If you talk about implementation, then 2012 is too short of a time. We should target 2016 instead as our current batch of seniors (LCW, KKK/TBH & co) plus the juniors (CWF, Liew Daren & co) are not good enough to win that gold in 2012. We should target shuttlers in the U15 age groups and develop them in view of 2016, thats where our potential OG gold medalist/s are.

crashandburn

02-18-2009, 07:13 AM

Only if we could see the future....
Otherwise I think we better off giving positive inputs or keep those "negatives" to ourselves.
End.

Noridayu

02-18-2009, 08:52 AM

As for me youth participation in AE is crucial. It is an experience for them to play against stars.

koo_fan

02-18-2009, 11:08 AM

As for me youth participation in AE is crucial. It is an experience for them to play against stars.
Youngsters like Chan Wei Fong/Daren Liew give us future.However,the seeds in big tournament should be convincing.I don't agree if we simply put several names to give them chances.
Not saying that likes as Hafiz is convincing, but let the names in top team to be there.
Or else, remove and replace them.
Tan Chun Seang is ready.I think i can ensure that.

*Pemuda, you remind me of our Shebby.Yes.The implementation should take time,efforts, consistency etc too.There's no two ways for BAM to have a batch of world beaters.They have to pay the price and be committed.
The administration people might have setting up some irrelevant targets(e.g Malaysia football team to win 2018 WC).It's common.I'd rest my case.
But, Thank god that BAM is much more sensible.We are capable to reach the target.Kita Boleh.

limsy

02-19-2009, 01:19 AM

Tan Chun Seang is ready.I think i can ensure that.

:rolleyes:...well...how can u ensure tat???:rolleyes:

jasonmarc

02-19-2009, 02:59 AM

:rolleyes:...well...how can u ensure tat???:rolleyes:

No body can ensure that,...i think.....It has to be show with the results on court...................;)......:cool:.....not on paper.....:)

limsy

02-19-2009, 03:01 AM

No body can ensure that,...i think.....It has to be show with the results on court...................;)......:cool:.....not on paper.....:)

tats why i ask...:)..^^...

jutawin

02-19-2009, 04:53 AM

Malaysia boleh?
Indonesia bisa?

Jagdpanther

02-19-2009, 05:07 AM

Malaysia boleh?
Indonesia bisa?
Indonesia (badminton) was, is, and will always be bisa! :)

Pemuda

02-19-2009, 09:36 AM

*Pemuda, you remind me of our Shebby.Yes.The implementation should take time,efforts, consistency etc too.There's no two ways for BAM to have a batch of world beaters.They have to pay the price and be committed.
The administration people might have setting up some irrelevant targets(e.g Malaysia football team to win 2018 WC).It's common.I'd rest my case.
But, Thank god that BAM is much more sensible.We are capable to reach the target.Kita Boleh.

Let me tell you that you I am much more better looking than Shebby. And much fitter and younger too. ;)
Anyway, Shebby is a nice guy. Came across him a few times when I was playing football.

Ok, as for this Malaysia Boleh or Kita Boleh or Semua Boleh or whatever boleh, lets win the AE and then the WC first before we start to salivate about that OG gold.

Pemuda

02-19-2009, 09:41 AM

Tan Chun Seang is ready.I think i can ensure that.

Ready to watch cartoons on tv is it??

Lets not kid ourselves la, our juniors are way off in the quality department.

george@chongwei

02-20-2009, 01:08 AM

Malaysia boleh?
Indonesia bisa?
that's right;)...

koo_fan

02-20-2009, 05:33 AM

:rolleyes:...well...how can u ensure tat???:rolleyes:
Someone told me about KBH being nearly 30 and it sound ridiculous if he is not in our top team.
How old is Tan Chun Seang, by the way?
He should be in our top team,rather than hafiz and his likes.

koo_fan

02-20-2009, 05:40 AM

Let me tell you that you I am much more better looking than Shebby. And much fitter and younger too. ;)
Anyway, Shebby is a nice guy. Came across him a few times when I was playing football.

Ok, as for this Malaysia Boleh or Kita Boleh or Semua Boleh or whatever boleh, lets win the AE and then the WC first before we start to salivate about that OG gold.

Of course la i am not talking about appearance, sir.;)
I could not even tell if you play better football than him?Who knows?

How about we win OG gold first, then only we win another AE and WC.
To support and not-to-support the plan.This is the only argument here.
Takpe la kalau tak nak support.:p

koo_fan

02-20-2009, 06:44 AM

Ready to watch cartoons on tv is it??

Lets not kid ourselves la, our juniors are way off in the quality department.
I am ready.Whether or not real movies are better than cartoons.It's all perceptions.
I found Madagascar as better than Quantum Of Solace.Any problem?

Tan Chun Seang is not so junior, sir.At about your age.

Pemuda

02-20-2009, 07:15 AM

Of course la i am not talking about appearance, sir.;)
I could not even tell if you play better football than him?Who knows?

How about we win OG gold first, then only we win another AE and WC.
To support and not-to-support the plan.This is the only argument here.
Takpe la kalau tak nak support.:p

Yang, I am sorry you need to complete Form 5 before you go to University. One dont go straight into University without passing Form 5. It is the same in badminton, before we dream about that OG gold, we need to win that AE and WC first. Not the other way around.

Pemuda

02-20-2009, 07:16 AM

I am ready.Whether or not real movies are better than cartoons.It's all perceptions.
I found Madagascar as better than Quantum Of Solace.Any problem?

Tan Chun Seang is not so junior, sir.At about your age.

Then he is definitely not gonna make it.

koo_fan

02-20-2009, 07:33 AM

Then he is definitely not gonna make it.
Sure?
How sure are you?

Pemuda

02-20-2009, 07:41 AM

Sure?
How sure are you?

Well, I look forward to eat some humble pie.
How about a side bet to make things interesting here?
I say he wont win one single SS title in 24 months.

koo_fan

02-20-2009, 07:46 AM

Yang, I am sorry you need to complete Form 5 before you go to University. One dont go straight into University without passing Form 5. It is the same in badminton, before we dream about that OG gold, we need to win that AE and WC first. Not the other way around.
Taufik won Gold Medal without completing AE title.
It's a matter of you want it or not.Go for it if you are and if it is the other way around, don't.

koo_fan

02-20-2009, 07:56 AM

Well, I look forward to eat some humble pie.

This is what we call - Gentleman.:)

Pemuda

02-20-2009, 08:00 AM

Taufik won Gold Medal without completing AE title.
It's a matter of you want it or not.Go for it if you are and if it is the other way around, don't.

Yang, TH have reached the final of the AE twice (I think) before he land that OG gold. Yes, yes, he still did not win the AE but reaching the final twice definitely proved that the lad got some quality. And do note, TH won the OG gold at 24 years of age. Come London 2012, our best bet LCW will be 30 years old and the OG is not some Sukma or Sea Games.

Pemuda

02-20-2009, 08:01 AM

This is what we call - Gentleman.:)

Memang la Yang.

koo_fan

02-20-2009, 08:08 AM

Yang, TH have reached the final of the AE twice (I think) before he land that OG gold. Yes, yes, he still did not win the AE but reaching the final twice definitely proved that the lad got some quality. And do note, TH won the OG gold at 24 years of age. Come London 2012, our best bet LCW will be 30 years old and the OG is not some Sukma or Sea Games.
Final/semi-final/quarter-final/first round/second round...
Now, he win the Ae or not?

Pemuda

02-20-2009, 08:15 AM

Final/semi-final/quarter-final/first round/second round...
Now, he win the Ae or not?

Nope, he did not win the AE BUT he has been to the final twice. And he won that OG gold and WC. :D

LCW todate got no major titles. And has yet to be able to win away from home as WR1.

koo_fan

02-20-2009, 08:31 AM

Nope, he did not win the AE BUT he has been to the final twice. And he won that OG gold and WC. :D

LCW todate got no major titles. And has yet to be able to win away from home as WR1.
What LCW is doing here?
Aren't we suppose to talk about Chun Seang?

Fine.Lee Chong Wei is not yet win WC/AE/OG.
This AE is a chance.Give him a support.

Pemuda

02-20-2009, 08:41 AM

What LCW is doing here?
Aren't we suppose to talk about Chun Seang?

Fine.Lee Chong Wei is not yet win WC/AE/OG.
This AE is a chance.Give him a support.

LCW is our best bet.
As for TCS, I say he wont he make it. He is not good enough.

Dont get me wrong, I support Malaysian shuttlers but I accept reality.

jutawin

02-20-2009, 10:24 AM

I would like TH or LCW to win All england..
http://www.msnhiddenemoticons.com/Library/extra_large/merende/default/karate.gif

cooler

02-20-2009, 11:58 AM

Well, I look forward to eat some humble pie.
How about a side bet to make things interesting here?
I say he wont win one single SS title in 24 months.

remember that u still have 2 free 'get out jail' cards win the 08 OG bet.

With the national super league restarting back up, it was mentioned that top chinese shuttlers would likely participate in less international tournaments. Therefore, chances of winning some titles by TH, LCW, PG would be slightly higher than before. That said, i doubt the chineses would for go the AE and WC.

Noridayu

02-20-2009, 04:12 PM

OneToughBirdie

02-20-2009, 04:30 PM

It is a big challenge for us Malaysian. Let's pray and hope that luck is on our side this year. The players had undergone centralize training to ensure that they are able to perform in AE for us. Malaysia Boleh!
Looking at the MS and MD draw, luck seems to be on MAS side. Also, MD is missing KOR top pair, KD/HS is one opposite side and reportedly having problem and knee strain what-not, Fu/Cai absent for a while, DEN pair on paper is not as strong as MAS and and with 'centralized training', so there gonna be no excuse not to win this major. Maybe XBall has hope in his bet afterall. Now, get Rexy to fix the match for Fuzzy to lose and one more big 'Boleh' will put MAS over the top!!:D:p

Pemuda

02-20-2009, 09:25 PM

It is a big challenge for us Malaysian. Let's pray and hope that luck is on our side this year. The players had undergone centralize training to ensure that they are able to perform in AE for us. Malaysia Boleh!

Luck is indeed on our side based on the draw and coupled with the Chinese shuttlers just coming back etc, this year is our best chance to win big at the AE. With that 'top secret' centralize training where our shuttlers have to paint each other faces and spent an afternoon at some shopping complex going through garbage bins, our shuttlers are in top physical and mental condition to perform at the AE. I certainly can feel the Boleh vibes and all.

Loh

02-20-2009, 09:55 PM

Looking at the MS and MD draw, luck seems to be on MAS side. Also, MD is missing KOR top pair, KD/HS is one opposite side and reportedly having problem and knee strain what-not, Fu/Cai absent for a while, DEN pair on paper is not as strong as MAS and and with 'centralized training', so there gonna be no excuse not to win this major. Maybe XBall has hope in his bet afterall. Now, get Rexy to fix the match for Fuzzy to lose and one more big 'Boleh' will put MAS over the top!!:D:p

I'm looking forward to celebrating with X Ball and Oldhand when MAS wins the AE titles. :p

george@chongwei

02-20-2009, 11:52 PM

I'm looking forward to celebrating with X Ball and Oldhand when MAS wins the AE titles. :p
what about me???:rolleyes:?:D

Oldhand

02-21-2009, 01:32 AM

It is a big challenge for us Malaysian. Let's pray and hope that luck is on our side this year. The players had undergone centralize training to ensure that they are able to perform in AE for us. Malaysia Boleh!
Surely, just about everyone in the draw will be relying on copious amounts of prayer and hope. As such, it's unlikely that P&H will better any one player's or team's chances.

The best prepared will win.
Preparation Boleh :cool:

Oldhand

02-21-2009, 01:34 AM

I'm looking forward to celebrating with X Ball and Oldhand when MAS wins the AE titles. :p
Correction:
You should be looking forward to celebrating with Oldhand at X_Ball's expense :p

limsy

02-21-2009, 03:30 AM

Someone told me about KBH being nearly 30 and it sound ridiculous if he is not in our top team.
How old is Tan Chun Seang, by the way?
He should be in our top team,rather than hafiz and his likes.

tcs just 2 year younger than kbh...or one year...:rolleyes:...

and kbh is same age with lcw...or one year younger than lcw...:rolleyes:

well...

if age can determine if he/she in our top team or not...then my brother should already represent malaysia as he already 27 this year...:rolleyes:...

age is not a measurement...:rolleyes:...

tcs wont be able to beat hh this year...believe me...i hope he can too...:rolleyes:...tcs will be another ykb if he didnt rise his game...;)

koo_fan

02-21-2009, 04:38 AM

tcs just 2 year younger than kbh...or one year...:rolleyes:...

and kbh is same age with lcw...or one year younger than lcw...:rolleyes:

well...

if age can determine if he/she in our top team or not...then my brother should already represent malaysia as he already 27 this year...:rolleyes:...

age is not a measurement...:rolleyes:...

tcs wont be able to beat hh this year...believe me...i hope he can too...:rolleyes:...tcs will be another ykb if he didnt rise his game...;)
Nope.It is different.Your brother has not committed himself to our National team for years.
Personally,I would not want Tan Chun Seang to end his career being a junior.
Now, lets go reality.He is indeed a good junior,winning three singles satellite title in 2007(AFAIK).
As you say he might not be able to win over Hafiz, really?

limsy

02-21-2009, 04:46 AM

Personally,I would not want Tan Chun Seang to end his career being a junior.
Now, lets go reality.He is indeed a good junior,winning three singles satellite title in 2007(AFAIK).
As you say he might not be able to win over Hafiz, really?

well...he is top back up in 2007...but not in 08...and surely not 09...;)

koo_fan

02-21-2009, 04:50 AM

Luck is indeed on our side based on the draw and coupled with the Chinese shuttlers just coming back etc, this year is our best chance to win big at the AE. With that 'top secret' centralize training where our shuttlers have to paint each other faces and spent an afternoon at some shopping complex going through garbage bins, our shuttlers are in top physical and mental condition to perform at the AE. I certainly can feel the Boleh vibes and all.

Do not mess up your mind.Need not to be worried on whether the training is worth it or not.Cool down and enjoy the upcoming games.My wish is they played the best.
I would be happy enough to see kkk doing his 'duck sitting' pose again and play well.If luck is in our side, they'll win.

Relax and chill out.It's your birthday,anyway.Happy birthday.:).