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limsy
02-19-2009, 04:55 AM
pls post ur prediction...and which event...

for me...china biggest chance is in ws and wd...

prediction:
atleast 2...
ws and wd

i didnt say ms bcz i guess lyb will let lin dan lose to bcl...:p

Jagdpanther
02-19-2009, 05:11 AM
At least one. I can't tell from which event. I'm a terrible fortune teller.:p

jutawin
02-19-2009, 05:29 AM
I guess 3 titles..
Left MS & XD to Indonesia.
Hehehe..

suetyan
02-19-2009, 06:53 AM
I wish 5 titles but I think they can only win WS, WS and MS

jutawin
02-19-2009, 07:10 AM
I wish 5 titles but I think they can only win WS, WS and MS

do you mean china win WS twice? Maybe you mean WD.. He8x..

suetyan
02-19-2009, 07:32 AM
do you mean china win WS twice? Maybe you mean WD.. He8x..
opps, sorry, wrongly typed :p Should be WS, WD and MS :D

etudiant
02-19-2009, 08:02 AM
WS and MS have more than 60% chances....

narnia
02-19-2009, 12:14 PM
Nothing or one with good luck...

Pemuda
02-19-2009, 06:23 PM
In the MS and MD, I say China will find things tough as they got to face the might of the Malaysia Boleh machinery. Chinese shuttlers will be rattled by em' loud and incessant chanting of Malaysia Boleh coupled with thunderous chest thumping and feet stomping too much to bear.

Despite not being able to win anything out of his own bedroom as the WR1, LCW is going to the AE very well prepared this time. He will be bringing along his maggi mee, sambal belacan, kuih lapis, favourite pillow and bolster.

samuel882
02-19-2009, 08:58 PM
pls post ur prediction...and which event...

for me...china biggest chance is in ws and wd...

prediction:
atleast 2...
ws and wd

i didnt say ms bcz i guess lyb will let lin dan lose to bcl...:p


I don't think BCL will beat LD coz in LYB's mind LD is a safer bet IF any of the china troops will have to face LCW in final

suetyan
02-19-2009, 09:01 PM
I don't think BCL will beat LD coz in LYB's mind LD is a safer bet IF any of the china troops will have to face LCW in final
yes, agree. Plus BCL is having knee injury....

Loh
02-19-2009, 09:43 PM
I don't think BCL will beat LD coz in LYB's mind LD is a safer bet IF any of the china troops will have to face LCW in final

Maybe another player can come from behind to shock both LD and LCW? :D

Now who could this player be? :cool:

bananakid
02-19-2009, 10:18 PM
In the MS and MD, I say China will find things tough as they got to face the might of the Malaysia Boleh machinery. Chinese shuttlers will be rattled by em' loud and incessant chanting of Malaysia Boleh coupled with thunderous chest thumping and feet stomping too much to bear.

Despite not being able to win anything out of his own bedroom as the WR1, LCW is going to the AE very well prepared this time. He will be bringing along his maggi mee, sambal belacan, kuih lapis, favourite pillow and bolster.


LOL...:D I was reading this while eating dinner, and I laughed so far that I "almost"(to disappoint some boleh fans here) choked on the food.:eek:

I would say between 2-3. MS has been won by China for the previous 5 years in a row... and 7 out of 9 MS title won by China since year 2000.

WS and WD are still dominated by China, and only a few capable challengers from other countries.

XD - Lee Yong Dae/Lee HJ all the way!!!

Loh
02-19-2009, 10:27 PM
LOL...:D I was reading this while eating dinner, and I laughed so far that I "almost"(to disappoint some boleh fans here) choked on the food.:eek:

I would say between 2-3. MS has been won by China for the previous 5 years in a row... and 7 out of 9 MS title won by China since year 2000.

WS and WD are still dominated by China, and only a few capable challengers from other countries.

XD - Lee Yong Dae/Lee HJ all the way!!!

I'm going for my lunch and you had your dinner. :eek: Two worlds apart but still something in common - baddy!

I suppose you have a banana after dinner, which may consist of maggie mee, sambal belacan, kuih lapis and ...? :D

limsy
02-19-2009, 11:39 PM
I don't think BCL will beat LD coz in LYB's mind LD is a safer bet IF any of the china troops will have to face LCW in final

secure a final spot in wc 09 is surely important than ae 09 title...am i correct?

cooler
02-19-2009, 11:43 PM
pls post ur prediction...and which event...

for me...china biggest chance is in ws and wd...

prediction:
atleast 2...
ws and wd

i didnt say ms bcz i guess lyb will let lin dan lose to bcl...:p
i thot BCL is from china too, just like LD

limsy
02-19-2009, 11:45 PM
i thot BCL is from china too, just like LD

i see...BAO CHUN LAI...:)

cooler
02-19-2009, 11:46 PM
I'm going for my lunch and you had your dinner. :eek: Two worlds apart but still something in common - baddy!

I suppose you have a banana after dinner, which may consist of maggie mee, sambal belacan, kuih lapis and ...? :Dat 9:10pm, bananakid was eating supper late. If he ate supper at normal time,u would be eating ur breakfast.

george@chongwei
02-20-2009, 01:13 AM
at 9:10pm, bananakid was eating supper late. If he ate supper at normal time,u would be eating ur breakfast.
are u talking about u yourselves?:D

suetyan
02-20-2009, 03:18 AM
secure a final spot in wc 09 is surely important than ae 09 title...am i correct?
both also important ;)

koo_fan
02-20-2009, 10:37 AM
Nothing or one with good luck...
Is that because they'd 'alienated' themselves from us for months?
Do not underestimate this team.Warn you that.

Pemuda
02-20-2009, 09:39 PM
LOL...:D I was reading this while eating dinner, and I laughed so far that I "almost"(to disappoint some boleh fans here) choked on the food.:eek:

I would say between 2-3. MS has been won by China for the previous 5 years in a row... and 7 out of 9 MS title won by China since year 2000.

WS and WD are still dominated by China, and only a few capable challengers from other countries.

XD - Lee Yong Dae/Lee HJ all the way!!!

Bro ... bro, I am serious about this Malaysia Boleh thingy!

Imagine you are LD and facing a determined LCW (now Datuk LCW), fully armed with numerous gold rings, bracelets, chains, pendants backed by a vociferous Malaysia Boleh brigade shouting and chanting Malaysia Boleh while beating their chests and stomping their feet. You will be overwhelmed bro :D.

And I think this time BAM and Misbun have found a solution to solve LCW's mental block of not being able to win away from home as the WR1. This time LCW will be going to England with his favourite pillow and bolster.

george@chongwei
02-20-2009, 11:39 PM
Bro ... bro, I am serious about this Malaysia Boleh thingy!

Imagine you are LD and facing a determined LCW (now Datuk LCW), fully armed with numerous gold rings, bracelets, chains, pendants backed by a vociferous Malaysia Boleh brigade shouting and chanting Malaysia Boleh while beating their chests and stomping their feet. You will be overwhelmed bro :D.

And I think this time BAM and Misbun have found a solution to solve LCW's mental block of not being able to win away from home as the WR1. This time LCW will be going to England with his favourite pillow and bolster.
thanks for your self-explanatory post;)
this is just like a shiok sendiri situation for you imo:D
MALAYSIA BOLEH!:D

Pemuda
02-20-2009, 11:45 PM
thanks for your self-explanatory post;)
this is just like a shiok sendiri situation for you imo:D
MALAYSIA BOLEH!:D

13,519 posts in less than 2 years. Finally, you posted something in decent English.
Well done.

george@chongwei
02-20-2009, 11:54 PM
13,519 posts in less than 2 years. Finally, you posted something in decent English.
Well done.
again, thank you for your tough observant and record it in your mind or notepad over there.
thanks once again.

Pemuda
02-20-2009, 11:58 PM
again, thank you for your tough observant and record it in your mind or notepad over there.
thanks once again.

Observation, not 'observant' :o
And by the way, I gotta take some lunch. Why dont you hang around the forum and wait for me till I get back? Maybe you can work on hitting 14,000 posts in 20 or so minutes?

george@chongwei
02-21-2009, 12:01 AM
Observation, not 'observant' :o
And by the way, I gotta take some lunch. Why dont you hang around the forum and wait for me till I get back? Maybe you can work on hitting 14,000 posts in 20 or so minutes?
im just teasing and testing your observation here once again, dude.
glad that u made it!;)
malaysia boleh to you.

jasonmarc
02-21-2009, 01:34 AM
Chn is capable of winning all Titles in AE.................They have strong players in all events..........

limsy
02-21-2009, 03:33 AM
if want to have mouth fight...pls fight else where...i dont hope any off topic post here...

well...the majority now is saying china will win more than 2...the least is from narnia...

koo_fan
02-21-2009, 04:59 AM
Chn is capable of winning all Titles in AE.................They have strong players in all events..........
If the word capable is being used, then i would just say every team is capable to win.

Again, it depends on how they will play the game that day.

Pemuda
02-21-2009, 06:59 AM
What in the world is a 'mouth fight'?

jasonmarc
02-21-2009, 08:36 PM
If the word capable is being used, then i would just say every team is capable to win.

Again, it depends on how they will play the game that day.

Yes,...but its true to Chn.......we will never say Mas is capable to win in WS and XD.........in this AE............because MAS have no strong players in these events in this coming AE......but Chn have good players in all event and their chances of winning is there......and as U said,...its still depends on how they play on court....that day.....:p

koo_fan
02-21-2009, 09:56 PM
I am nor specifically referring to Malaysia.
Perhaps you should consider to say every event had it's own top seeds.
Each is capable to win.


Yeah..Of course China is a good team.I am waiting for the comeback.Let's see what happen.

limsy
02-22-2009, 12:28 AM
Yes,...but its true to Chn.......we will never say Mas is capable to win in WS and XD.........in this AE............because MAS have no strong players in these events in this coming AE......but Chn have good players in all event and their chances of winning is there......and as U said,...its still depends on how they play on court....that day.....:p

well...surely....mas xd is better than ws at the moment...if koo is with wong...then they might able to win...:D

jasonmarc
02-22-2009, 01:07 AM
The resistance for Chn team to win is in this descending order......only my oppinion...hehe

MD > XD > MS > WS > WD

What do U think...?

Tommy Susanto
02-22-2009, 02:27 AM
Maybe another player can come from behind to shock both LD and LCW? :D

Now who could this player be? :cool:

Allow me to express your mind. This player who can upset both LD and LCW is Kendrick Lee. I am more optimistic about Lee's chances definitely more than SIN badminton fans excluding you:p

Tommy Susanto
02-22-2009, 02:30 AM
at 9:10pm, bananakid was eating supper late. If he ate supper at normal time,u would be eating ur breakfast.

He only needs banana for breakfast:pAdd milk to his breakfast list, milk enhances brain development;)His brain relies greatly upon it:D

Pemuda
02-22-2009, 06:02 AM
He only needs banana for breakfast:pAdd milk to his breakfast list, milk enhances brain development;)His brain relies greatly upon it:D

You do take milk for breakfast along with your Gerber DHA oatmeal single grain baby cereal, right? ;)

Never skip breakfast, its the most important meal of the day. :D

chris-ccc
02-22-2009, 06:34 AM
pls post ur prediction...and which event...

for me...china biggest chance is in ws and wd...

prediction:
atleast 2...
ws and wd

i didnt say ms bcz i guess lyb will let lin dan lose to bcl...:p



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Yes, this will be how I shall be playing our PAW Games for the 2009 All England.

Predictions:
CHN WS and WD will progress to win the titles.
CHN MS and MD will stop at the QF.
CHN XD will stop at the SF.

If the above predictions are wrong, then my PAWS Games Position would be placed in the bottom half. If correct, then in the top half. ;););)
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limsy
02-22-2009, 09:31 AM
well...i surely hope i in top 15 of the paw in ae...sigh...

koo_fan
02-22-2009, 09:38 AM
well...i surely hope i in top 15 of the paw in ae...sigh...
You will.Special birthday present for this year.

limsy
02-22-2009, 09:40 AM
You will.Special birthday present for this year.

nope...ae is post my b.d;)...

sorry for off topic...

Loh
02-22-2009, 07:38 PM
Allow me to express your mind. This player who can upset both LD and LCW is Kendrick Lee. I am more optimistic about Lee's chances definitely more than SIN badminton fans excluding you:p

Tommy, I'm afraid you're out of touch with this year's AE. Are you sure you're residing in London? :eek:

CLELY
02-23-2009, 01:15 AM
The resistance for Chn team to win is in this descending order......only my oppinion...hehe

MD > XD > MS > WS > WD

What do U think...?

Yeah, MD becomes the slimmest chance for CHN to win AE title compared with other disciplines. And CHN has bright prospect to bag WD and WS titles.

koo_fan
02-23-2009, 02:59 AM
Yeah, MD becomes the slimmest chance for CHN to win AE title compared with other disciplines. And CHN has bright prospect to bag WD and WS titles.

MS is 50-50?
Here you go, Chong Wei.

Tommy Susanto
02-23-2009, 05:41 AM
Tommy, I'm afraid you're out of touch with this year's AE. Are you sure you're residing in London? :eek:


Hey you are right about me being away from this forum. Nevertheless, seeing some young kids hecking around keep me not too far away:p Anyway what to do when Team SIN couldn't progress beyond the success of Dutch Open:confused:

Loh
02-23-2009, 10:12 AM
Hey you are right about me being away from this forum. Nevertheless, seeing some young kids hecking around keep me not too far away:p Anyway what to do when Team SIN couldn't progress beyond the success of Dutch Open:confused:

Thanks for your concern. :rolleyes:

Hope Team SIN will be able to do better the next time. But I can't guarantee you when... :D

Morten
02-23-2009, 05:35 PM
I have a strong feeling that China might scope at least 4 titles this year. After months of training I think we will see some very sharp shuttlers that might be even levels above some of the other rivals. I expect the WD to be a secure card for China. In the womens single they have 4-5 players that can go all the way and eventho Tine and the ex China players have done well lately I would still put my money on China to win this category

In the mens single category it all depends on the mood of Lin Dan and the level of "match fixing" that is going on. LCW can posses a threat to the chinese players, but as seen before if LD really puts his mind into winning and is allowed by LYB then he might be close to unstoppable. However it may be in the favour of LCW that LD has won every major title that can be won so he might be less "hungry".

China faces the biggest challenges in XD and MD. In MD I would say Fu/Cai is still one of the 3-4 favourites whereas in Mix double we will yet have to see the potential of the new constellation of Zheng Bo/Ma jin. If they fail to perform Xie Zhongbo/Zhang Jawen is still a major thread to Nova/illyana and Lee/Lee.

cooler
02-23-2009, 06:03 PM
Tommy, I'm afraid you're out of touch with this year's AE. Are you sure you're residing in London? :eek:he forgot to eat his breakfast.

Loh
02-23-2009, 08:27 PM
he forgot to eat his breakfast.

Maybe his breakfast is not appetising enough. No nasi padang, no goreng pisang, no gado gado, no chengdol, no bandung, etc, how not to feel miserable for the start of the day? :p

chris-ccc
02-23-2009, 08:59 PM
China faces the biggest challenges in XD and MD. In MD I would say Fu/Cai is still one of the 3-4 favourites whereas in Mix double we will yet have to see the potential of the new constellation of Zheng Bo/Ma jin. If they fail to perform Xie Zhongbo/Zhang Jawen is still a major thread to Nova/illyana and Lee/Lee.



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Morten ... I should think that your Denmark's LP/JR or MB/CM are most likely to take the MD title.
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pjswift
02-24-2009, 01:15 AM
Tine, with Morten Frost as her master tactician,may be formidable to CHN WS. It happened in JO07? bagging Tine her first? SS title. There's no reason why it can't be repeated.So that's a possible 2 titles for DEN.

Loh
02-24-2009, 01:37 AM
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Morten ... I should think that your Denmark's LP/JR or MB/CM are most likely to take the MD title.
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Chris, I'm surprised you said this. You're going to disappoint many Malaysia Boleh fans here! :(

Ajaib
02-24-2009, 01:40 AM
Tine, with Morten Frost as her master tactician,may be formidable to CHN WS. It happened in JO07? bagging Tine her first? SS title. There's no reason why it can't be repeated.So that's a possible 2 titles for DEN.
of course she must fight WANG LIN first,,, and WANG LIN has an edge against TINE...

chris-ccc
02-24-2009, 01:56 AM
Tine, with Morten Frost as her master tactician,may be formidable to CHN WS. It happened in JO07? bagging Tine her first? SS title. There's no reason why it can't be repeated.So that's a possible 2 titles for DEN.



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True ...... Tine could bag the WS title. Her confidence should be high. She has been playing well in the last 3 months.

Assuming that there are no upsets of seeded players, Tine (1) will make it to the Finals by defeating these CHN WS:
At Quarter-Finals ...... Wang Lin (7)
At Semi-Finals ......... Lu Lan (3)
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chris-ccc
02-24-2009, 02:08 AM
Chris, I'm surprised you said this. You're going to disappoint many Malaysia Boleh fans here! :(



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If we remember how MB/CM defeated JJS/LYD at the 2009 KO SS, we shouldn't be surprised. ;)
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Loh
02-24-2009, 02:15 AM
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If we remember how MB/CM defeated JJS/LYD at the 2009 KO SS, we shouldn't be surprised. ;)
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Rexy may have something up his sleeves.
And X Ball may be able to share some ideas with him. ;)

Ajaib
02-24-2009, 02:35 AM
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If we remember how MB/CM defeated JJS/LYD at the 2009 KO SS, we shouldn't be surprised. ;)
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seems that LYD/JJS had a difficult time aginst DENMARK pairs,,,,
or LARS / JONAS know how to beat LYD/JJS verry well.. and they told their teammates MB/CM how to beat the KOREANS

chris-ccc
02-24-2009, 03:08 AM
seems that LYD/JJS had a difficult time aginst DENMARK pairs,,,,
or LARS / JONAS know how to beat LYD/JJS verry well.. and they told their teammates MB/CM how to beat the KOREANS.



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Without the top pairs from KOR and INA, DEN and MAS pairs will have it easier.
LP/RJ are now the top seeds, and MB/CM on high confidence.

In another thread, Oldhand said "This could very well be the year of a new Danish dominance in MD".

And he could be right. But, the Lee Yong Dae/Shin Baek Cheol combination shouldn't be underrated.
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limsy
02-24-2009, 06:13 AM
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Without the top pairs from KOR and INA, DEN and MAS pairs will have it easier.
LP/RJ are now the top seeds, and MB/CM on high confidence.


mb/cm is more dangerous than lp/jr:)

Morten
02-24-2009, 07:09 AM
Tine is doing very well. But she might have to face 3 chinese top players. The chinese have always looked very fit when they have arrived from months in a training camp. So I have my doubts that Tine will be able to defend her AE crown, although I of course cheer for her as she is a dane :).

In MD I am not as confident as some BC'ers are in the two danish pairs. No doubt that their recent form have placed them rightfully in the top 8 but you have to remember that despite Lars/Jonas performing very well and consistent they havent won any major tournament in a long time( Not counting the Japan Open since the resistance there wasnt as big as in most super series). They have the skill to become the champion but as I see it lacks a few percent.

Carsten/Mathias did very well in Korea and beat maybe the best MD in the world at the moment. However this was there first major victory so even if they showed they got the ability to win these tournaments I still think we will have to be more cautious and watch their performance over a longer period before we can count them as favourites. Else we might witness a situation like Hafiz :), where he for a year after his AE victory was counted as favourite in most events and failed horrible ( not that I think Carsten/Mathias has this lazy attitude).

AlanY
02-24-2009, 07:13 AM
Tine, with Morten Frost as her master tactician,may be formidable to CHN WS. It happened in JO07? bagging Tine her first? SS title. There's no reason why it can't be repeated.So that's a possible 2 titles for DEN.
may be you've forgotten the one BIG reason, she is not getting any younger!

sudirman
02-26-2009, 04:16 AM
should be more than 1

pjswift
02-26-2009, 09:46 PM
may be you've forgotten the one BIG reason, she is not getting any younger!
In my chat with Thomas Laybourn during SSF08,he explained that almost all Danes train part time (or put in only 50% of their Asian counterparts mileage) because they have a day job.So the earliest age they are likely to show their worth would be about 25 years old.Then add another 3 years of solid experience to establish consistency,it'll be 28.
Tine effectively gets to play regularly from 2007? so her body's not punished that much yet to be considered 'old'.In WS, age is not such a critical factor as long as they build up the best match fitness for that tournament.How else did ZN win the OG08 gold?
Tine has not built up enough experience to sharpen her tactics during a match.That's why she can lose to good , fast improving players whom she has not played before like WYH and MKY.It took Tine 3 matches before she beat WYH and I don't think she will lose to WYH again unless she has an off day.
With Tine, tactics is her key problem.With MF as coach,Tine trusts his tactical tips and can execute accordingly, that's why she feels confident and it shows in her body language.Tine's my pick for the WS title provided she is in top fitness and MF is there for her.

whp90
02-27-2009, 12:59 AM
China 2 titles (MS and WD)
Indo 2 titles (MD and XD)
Denmakr 1 titles (WS)

Ajaib
02-27-2009, 01:53 AM
China 4 tittles
Denmark 1 tittle ( MD )

General Foo
02-27-2009, 06:25 AM
lmao half of these predictions are so optimistic that china will win as few titles as possible i would have said its possible they win all 5 lol i give it a 10% chance i think they will win 3 or 4 i dont think they will win the mixed doubles but i think they might win the MD and others

badadum
02-27-2009, 06:28 AM
2 (very good chances) or 3 (average). 1 at the very least.

jasonmarc
02-28-2009, 08:40 PM
Chn is capable of winning all Titles in AE.................They have strong players in all events..........

Well....with 4 titles in German Open ( B team)....... Looks bright for them in coming AE.............when their A team play.........;);).....:cool:

pjswift
03-01-2009, 12:20 AM
Well....with 4 titles in German Open ( B team)....... Looks bright for them in coming AE.............when their A team play.........;);).....:cool:
Don't think it will follow logically in this way. There's not much difference between CHN teams A and B except for experience.There's a big difference between non-CHN teams A and B.This is the beginning of a new era in badminton.Exciting times ahead.

jasonmarc
03-01-2009, 01:35 AM
Don't think it will follow logically in this way. There's not much difference between CHN teams A and B except for experience.There's a big difference between non-CHN teams A and B.This is the beginning of a new era in badminton.Exciting times ahead.

Well....You're right.....but when Chn A Team Vs Non-Chn A Team......its going to be very exciting...........We're going to witness that in AE next week.....:p

Sure,.......Chn have a big pool of talents............and they have abundant of high standard training/sparing partners......i think that's why their A team and B team are very close in terms of standard of play.............;)

limsy
03-01-2009, 02:15 AM
well...it looks like bcer have more confident on china team after a good outing in german open...

madbad
03-01-2009, 02:34 AM
well...it looks like bcer have more confident on china team after a good outing in german open...

I'm sure it's quite discouraging for the others to see CHN B flex its muscles. Imagine the psychological effect when CHN A steps on the court. Love him or hate him, LYB carries a big stick

limsy
03-01-2009, 02:40 AM
I'm sure it's quite discouraging for the others to see CHN B flex its muscles. Imagine the psychological effect when CHN A steps on the court. Love him or hate him, LYB carries a big stick

well...ma jin is not tat mature enough...her coach keep asking her go forward...to seal the net...if lyd/lhj know chinese...they will know how to do...;)...yes...they improved...we shall see when the world vs china in ae...:)

pjswift
03-01-2009, 03:16 AM
I'm sure it's quite discouraging for the others to see CHN B flex its muscles. Imagine the psychological effect when CHN A steps on the court. Love him or hate him, LYB carries a big stick
Disagree.
CHN A now is not as strong as before. Non-CHN A now is stronger than before.
In a year or two, when more DEN,INA,KOR and MAS MS will come of age,the matches will get even more competitive.

cooler
03-01-2009, 03:33 AM
Disagree.
CHN A now is not as strong as before. Non-CHN A now is stronger than before.
In a year or two, when more DEN,INA,KOR and MAS MS will come of age,the matches will get even more competitive.
let stay in this 09 AE time frame. If u really can predict outcomes 1 to 2 years ahead, we should give u all the PAW titles now.

for academic exercise lets see my crystal ball:

1. DEN: when PG retire which is soon, which next danish MS is 1/2 as good as him?

2. INA: who come after TH?

3: KOR: LHI retired, PSH is not a threat to china (LD owned psh in 08 TC and 08 OG ), who is next?

4: MAS: can datuk LCW keep up? his goodwill ambass. post may take up his training time. Any MAS MS wonder in the making?

ya, they all will come of age, age for retirement.

pjswift
03-01-2009, 08:21 AM
Here's another prediction.
If PG reaches SF in AE, he will be WR2.That'll be so great for him.

limsy
03-01-2009, 08:38 AM
Here's another prediction.
If PG reaches SF in AE, he will be WR2.That'll be so great for him.

lin dan will need to defence his ae runner up points and so winner points...which mean even he can defence those two tourney point...he also wont be able to reclaim the wr 1 spot...:)

madbad
03-01-2009, 09:54 AM
Disagree.
CHN A now is not as strong as before. Non-CHN A now is stronger than before.
In a year or two, when more DEN,INA,KOR and MAS MS will come of age,the matches will get even more competitive.

Well, OK. Let's watch CHN A v Rest of World A at AE then continue this discussion. As for "in a year or two", based on what I've seen at the GO, the future of CHN badminton looks to be in pretty good hands.

jutawin
03-01-2009, 10:07 AM
China have great chance to sweep all titles in AE..

koo_fan
03-01-2009, 11:14 AM
China have great chance to sweep all titles in AE..
That's not a good thing to happen.

chris-ccc
03-01-2009, 12:07 PM
China have great chance to sweep all titles in AE..



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This will depend on CF/FHF.

Korea LYD/SBC are now the clear favourites, after winning the 2009 German Open MD title.
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limsy
03-01-2009, 12:10 PM
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This will depend on CF/FHF.

Korea LYD/SBC are now the clear favourites, after winning the 2009 German Open MD title.
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erm...not wise to say they are clear favourites...chris...believe me...if they in 2nd half...more dificult....anyway...i will say they are the clear favourites to REACH FINAL FROM THE TOP HALF...:)

General Foo
03-01-2009, 03:06 PM
lin dan will need to defence his ae runner up points and so winner points...which mean even he can defence those two tourney point...he also wont be able to reclaim the wr 1 spot...:)

Lol LD doesnt have to reclaim/defend anything - everyone knows he is the best MS player in world Badminton by far - i would even go as far to say as the most dominant male of all time. :D:D:p:p

eRa@에라
03-01-2009, 06:45 PM
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This will depend on CF/FHF.

Korea LYD/SBC are now the clear favourites, after winning the 2009 German Open MD title.
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after staying so damn late to watch the MD match this morning (thanks to the football final, luckily MU won, if not ... haiya..:rolleyes:) I agree LYD/SBC will become one tough opponent and a favorite to create an upset. This new pair seems to be doing really well together. SBC is a good replacement for JJS :)

samuel882
03-01-2009, 07:06 PM
let stay in this 09 AE time frame. If u really can predict outcomes 1 to 2 years ahead, we should give u all the PAW titles now.

for academic exercise lets see my crystal ball:

1. DEN: when PG retire which is soon, which next danish MS is 1/2 as good as him?

2. INA: who come after TH?

3: KOR: LHI retired, PSH is not a threat to china (LD owned psh in 08 TC and 08 OG ), who is next?

4: MAS: can datuk LCW keep up? his goodwill ambass. post may take up his training time. Any MAS MS wonder in the making?

ya, they all will come of age, age for retirement.
What about MD departmernt for China, 2 years from now? :o

cooler
03-01-2009, 07:11 PM
Disagree.
CHN A now is not as strong as before. Non-CHN A now is stronger than before.
In a year or two, when more DEN,INA,KOR and MAS MS will come of age,the matches will get even more competitive.


What about MD departmernt for China, 2 years from now? :oi was just replying to the noted category:p

Loh
03-01-2009, 08:17 PM
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This will depend on CF/FHF.

Korea LYD/SBC are now the clear favourites, after winning the 2009 German Open MD title.
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Well the more established pairs of Denmark, MAS, INA, etc were not featured in the German Open.

So this new KOR pair will not have it that easy and probably will be knocked out sooner than expected in the AE. :D

chris-ccc
03-01-2009, 08:35 PM
Well the more established pairs of Denmark, MAS, INA, etc were not featured in the German Open.

So this new KOR pair will not have it that easy and probably will be knocked out sooner than expected in the AE. :D



.
Loh ... Just found your new thread (re: Tracey Hallam).

Badminton Central was informed of this 2 days back: click here (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66684)

:):):)
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pjswift
03-01-2009, 08:44 PM
What about MD departmernt for China, 2 years from now? :o
What do you and cooler think?
Any hope for CHN with non-CHN MDs so strong?
Can anyone hazard a guess exactly what is missing in CHN MDs?

Loh
03-01-2009, 09:16 PM
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Loh ... Just found your new thread (re: Tracey Hallam).

Badminton Central was informed of this 2 days back: click here (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66684)

:):):)
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Thank you.
So it was posted as a link on Sat, 28 Feb.
I must have missed it as it was a non-office day. :D

george@chongwei
03-02-2009, 01:20 AM
Well the more established pairs of Denmark, MAS, INA, etc were not featured in the German Open.

So this new KOR pair will not have it that easy and probably will be knocked out sooner than expected in the AE. :D
i also have this thoughts:D:D

jasonmarc
03-02-2009, 02:30 AM
Remeber ...!....LYD is just superb.....he can makes things happens......maybe another new pairing wins the title........

Loh
03-02-2009, 02:36 AM
Remeber ...!....LYD is just superb.....he can makes things happens......maybe another new pairing wins the title........

But even LYD and his regular partner have lost before, right? :rolleyes:

Oldhand
03-02-2009, 02:44 AM
Remeber ...!....LYD is just superb.....he can makes things happens......maybe another new pairing wins the title........


But even LYD and his regular partner have lost before, right? :rolleyes:

Not just lost... they crumbled against Boe & Mogensen on home ground!

limsy
03-02-2009, 02:49 AM
What about MD departmernt for China, 2 years from now? :o

arcording to lyb...sjj,hhb,cb is very good ler....:)....i forget which pair...but i think is sjj/hhb is ready for this year WC...

jasonmarc
03-02-2009, 02:58 AM
Not just lost... they crumbled against Boe & Mogensen on home ground!

Maybe the new pairing can makes wonders.....................new style of play...:p:p

Jagdpanther
03-02-2009, 03:08 AM
Maybe the new pairing can makes wonders.....................new style of play...:p:p
And who knows, this new KOR pairing will dominate MD world once again!
:eek::p

Loh
03-02-2009, 03:27 AM
And who knows, this new KOR pairing will dominate MD world once again!
:eek::p

Don't worry, we'll find out very soon! :D:D:D

hola4
03-02-2009, 07:54 AM
China will win all titles except MD.;)

limsy
03-02-2009, 08:09 AM
China will win all titles except MD.;)

someone say...after the military camp...the world fastest shutter record is now increased by 5km/h....how many can survive from fhf bullet????:p

hola4
03-02-2009, 08:27 AM
someone say...after the military camp...the world fastest shutter record is now increased by 5km/h....how many can survive from fhf bullet????:p


Provided they have a lot chances to fire the AK47.:D

Loh
03-02-2009, 08:36 AM
Provided they have a lot chances to fire the AK47.:D

Or simply wear a bullet-proof vest! ;)

Accuracy and placement more important lah! :cool:

jutawin
03-02-2009, 09:29 AM
someone say...after the military camp...the world fastest shutter record is now increased by 5km/h....how many can survive from fhf bullet????:p
wow, increased by 5km/h?
If you block FHF's smash, it can break your racket string.. Hehe..

hcyong
03-02-2009, 11:11 PM
I'll get straight to the point.

Firstly, I will estimate the chances of CHN winning for every event. This part is based on my feelings and totally unscientific.
CHN to win MS = 80% (based on my feeling that if there were 5 AEs this year, CHN will win 4 of them)
CHN to win WS = 90% (seems like only Tine can stop the tide, but CHN tide is powerful and plentiful)
CHN to win MD = 10% (CHN opponents formidable)
CHN to win WS = 95% (only because there is no such thing as 100%)
CHN to win XD = 30% (next most vulnerable event after MD)

Based on the above, the totally scientific portion follows.
CHN to win 5 events = 2.05%
CHN to win 4 events = 24.11%
CHN to win 3 events = 52.81%
CHN to win 2 events = 18.92%
CHN to win 1 event = 2.05%
CHN to win 0 events = 0.06%

koo_fan
03-03-2009, 05:59 AM
I'll get straight to the point.

Firstly, I will estimate the chances of CHN winning for every event. This part is based on my feelings and totally unscientific.
CHN to win MS = 80% (based on my feeling that if there were 5 AEs this year, CHN will win 4 of them)
CHN to win WS = 90% (seems like only Tine can stop the tide, but CHN tide is powerful and plentiful)
CHN to win MD = 10% (CHN opponents formidable)
CHN to win WS = 95% (only because there is no such thing as 100%)
CHN to win XD = 30% (next most vulnerable event after MD)

Based on the above, the totally scientific portion follows.
CHN to win 5 events = 2.05%
CHN to win 4 events = 24.11%
CHN to win 3 events = 52.81%
CHN to win 2 events = 18.92%
CHN to win 1 event = 2.05%
CHN to win 0 events = 0.06%
I feel like revising my math now.Sorry im suck!

i wish the 0.06% to be real.Am i mean enough?

badadum
03-03-2009, 06:55 AM
I feel like revising my math now.Sorry im suck!

i wish the 0.06% to be real.Am i mean enough?

Nothing is impossible, regardless how unrealistic they might be ;).

I say China will win 2 title, #3 will be a bonus for them. :D

PoLLuX
03-03-2009, 07:27 AM
I'll get straight to the point.

........
CHN to win MS = 80% (based on my feeling that if there were 5 AEs this year, CHN will win 4 of them)
CHN to win WS = 90% (seems like only Tine can stop the tide, but CHN tide is powerful and plentiful)
CHN to win MD = 10% (CHN opponents formidable)
CHN to win WS = 95% (only because there is no such thing as 100%)......


China will win 2 titles from WS??

jump_smashing
03-03-2009, 07:57 AM
For sure 1st WD, then WS, perhaps MS ....

XD & MD are still in big ??????????????????????

But in my mind always hope that from weak badminton countries will win the tournament :-p

Loh
03-03-2009, 08:13 AM
I will give CHN the max of 3 titles: MS, WS and WD. :D

yen_saw
03-03-2009, 09:40 AM
yeah i agree with most people 2 or 3, 4 will be difficult looking at many of the CHN players versing each other early in the rounds.

hcyong
03-03-2009, 10:19 PM
I'll get straight to the point.

Firstly, I will estimate the chances of CHN winning for every event. This part is based on my feelings and totally unscientific.
CHN to win MS = 80% (based on my feeling that if there were 5 AEs this year, CHN will win 4 of them)
CHN to win WS = 90% (seems like only Tine can stop the tide, but CHN tide is powerful and plentiful)
CHN to win MD = 10% (CHN opponents formidable)
CHN to win WS = 95% (only because there is no such thing as 100%)CHN to win XD = 30% (next most vulnerable event after MD)

Based on the above, the totally scientific portion follows.
CHN to win 5 events = 2.05%
CHN to win 4 events = 24.11%
CHN to win 3 events = 52.81%
CHN to win 2 events = 18.92%
CHN to win 1 event = 2.05%
CHN to win 0 events = 0.06%

Yeah, a bit of typo there. Should be WD for 95%.

Based on the calculations above, CHN winning 3 events will be on par for them, 4 events will be a birdie and 5 events, that's like a hole-in-one.

2 events, a boogie; 1 event, a quadruple-boogie; 0 events, the ball hit a bird, followed by a tree, bounced to the highway and caused a massive pile-up.

Loh
03-03-2009, 10:57 PM
Yeah, a bit of typo there. Should be WD for 95%.

Based on the calculations above, CHN winning 3 events will be on par for them, 4 events will be a birdie and 5 events, that's like a hole-in-one.

2 events, a boogie; 1 event, a quadruple-boogie; 0 events, the ball hit a bird, followed by a tree, bounced to the highway and caused a massive pile-up.

Wah, our Mr Yong has taken up golf hah! :D

Have you heard of the episode of a golfer teeing-off on a Par 3, his 'fateful' ball flew towards a tree, bounced off from one of its branches, landed on the green and rolled into the hole. :eek:

Now that's a perfect "hole-in-one"! :D

hcyong
03-03-2009, 11:41 PM
Wah, our Mr Yong has taken up golf hah! :D

Have you heard of the episode of a golfer teeing-off on a Par 3, his 'fateful' ball flew towards a tree, bounced off from one of its branches, landed on the green and rolled into the hole. :eek:

Now that's a perfect "hole-in-one"! :D

No lah. If got time to play golf, may as well play some badminton while I can.

hola4
03-03-2009, 11:50 PM
China XD are getting stronger based on recent German Open.
My guess for China XD to capture the title in AE is 50-50

German Open Semi-Final
Bo Zheng (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=2A18482F-22C0-4576-8486-374AF9425901&player=39)http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/CHN.gif[CHN] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=2A18482F-22C0-4576-8486-374AF9425901&c=CHN)Jin Ma (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=2A18482F-22C0-4576-8486-374AF9425901&player=40)http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/CHN.gif[CHN] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=2A18482F-22C0-4576-8486-374AF9425901&c=CHN)-http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/KOR.gif[KOR] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=2A18482F-22C0-4576-8486-374AF9425901&c=KOR)Yong Dae Lee [1] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=2A18482F-22C0-4576-8486-374AF9425901&player=282)http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/KOR.gif[KOR] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=2A18482F-22C0-4576-8486-374AF9425901&c=KOR)Hyo Jung Lee (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=2A18482F-22C0-4576-8486-374AF9425901&player=291)21-14 21-18
German Open Final
Chen Xu [5] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=2A18482F-22C0-4576-8486-374AF9425901&player=32)http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/CHN.gif[CHN] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=2A18482F-22C0-4576-8486-374AF9425901&c=CHN)Yunlei Zhao (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=2A18482F-22C0-4576-8486-374AF9425901&player=36)http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/CHN.gif[CHN] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=2A18482F-22C0-4576-8486-374AF9425901&c=CHN)-http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/CHN.gif[CHN] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=2A18482F-22C0-4576-8486-374AF9425901&c=CHN)Bo Zheng (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=2A18482F-22C0-4576-8486-374AF9425901&player=39)http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/CHN.gif[CHN] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=2A18482F-22C0-4576-8486-374AF9425901&c=CHN)Jin Ma (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=2A18482F-22C0-4576-8486-374AF9425901&player=40)21-18 23-21

george@chongwei
03-04-2009, 01:10 AM
I will give CHN the max of 3 titles: MS, WS and WD. :D
MS??:rolleyes:
im sure this time the MS category will be a tough one;)

Loh
03-04-2009, 02:31 AM
MS??:rolleyes:
im sure this time the MS category will be a tough one;)

Well maybe LCW will have better luck this time to prove me wrong. But he also has to clear a number of testy hurdles first in his own half. ;)

In fact his first tough test is today against the up-and-coming Lu Yi and if your namesake takes it easy, then he needs not appear any further. :eek:

However, if LCW is fighting LY as if he is Lin Dan, then he may survive R1.

But more tests will await him and these could include Boonsak, Sony, PG and TH. :cool:

Actually I didn't realise until now that LCW has such a stiff draw. Of the 4 so-called heavenly kings, he is up against 2 and Lin Dan, the last, will wait for him like "a Lion in his Den"! :p Even after surviving all the mauling, can LCW still take on the strongest lion? :eek: :confused:

On the other hand, LD has so many of his own compatriots to "assist" him in his own half. If CJ obeys LYB and decides not to retain his AE crown as defending champion, LD will be asked to "take a walk" all the way to the final.
Poor LCW will need help to counter all these handicaps! But his compatriots are nowhere to be seen! Ayob doesn't even train with him as he is part of the KLRC team. :rolleyes:

Now, can George assist LCW, his namesake? :(

george@chongwei
03-04-2009, 05:08 AM
im sure this time AE MS category, every player especially the 4 kings right now will be all out gunning for it.:D

denilo
03-04-2009, 08:16 AM
I'll get straight to the point.

Firstly, I will estimate the chances of CHN winning for every event. This part is based on my feelings and totally unscientific.
CHN to win MS = 80% (based on my feeling that if there were 5 AEs this year, CHN will win 4 of them)
CHN to win WS = 90% (seems like only Tine can stop the tide, but CHN tide is powerful and plentiful)
CHN to win MD = 10% (CHN opponents formidable)
CHN to win WS = 95% (only because there is no such thing as 100%)
CHN to win XD = 30% (next most vulnerable event after MD)

Based on the above, the totally scientific portion follows.
CHN to win 5 events = 2.05%
CHN to win 4 events = 24.11%
CHN to win 3 events = 52.81%
CHN to win 2 events = 18.92%
CHN to win 1 event = 2.05%
CHN to win 0 events = 0.06%


http://www.sportenkort.dk/nyhed/89866/badminton/skadet+tine+r.%3a+jeg+kan+ikke+vinde

Tine Rasmussen states in this article that she has downgraded her expectations because of a Muscular injury!
Her aim is no longer to win AE.

A nicely macademized highway appears to be laid out for the chinese. women.

koo_fan
03-04-2009, 07:26 PM
Well maybe LCW will have better luck this time to prove me wrong. But he also has to clear a number of testy hurdles first in his own half. ;)

.......against the up-and-coming Lu Yi....
.....these could include Boonsak, Sony, PG and TH.

Actually I didn't realise until now that LCW has such a stiff draw. Of the 4 so-called heavenly kings, he is up against 2 and Lin Dan, the last, will wait for him like "a Lion in his Den"! :p Even after surviving all the mauling, can LCW still take on the strongest lion? :eek: :confused:

Poor LCW will need help to counter all these handicaps! But his compatriots are nowhere to be seen!(


Plenty,huh?
If these problems are all too big for him, then pack all things and come back to Malaysia.
But our Chong Wei would not do that.

Loh
03-04-2009, 08:24 PM
Plenty,huh?
If these problems are all too big for him, then pack all things and come back to Malaysia.
But our Chong Wei would not do that.

Congrats to LCW for passing R1, albeit not that smooth sailing. I think he is now geared for more tough matches to come and that's good! ;)

george@chongwei
03-05-2009, 01:26 AM
Congrats to LCW for passing R1, albeit not that smooth sailing. I think he is now geared for more tough matches to come and that's good! ;)
next opponent for him: marc zwilelber of germany;)

Loh
03-05-2009, 01:33 AM
next opponent for him: marc zwilelber of germany;)

Actually surprised that Boonsak lost to Marc.

But I doubt LCW will fall into the same trap. :D

george@chongwei
03-05-2009, 01:44 AM
Actually surprised that Boonsak lost to Marc.

But I doubt LCW will fall into the same trap. :D
that's for sure!:D
anyway, looks like china still going strongly in this tournament;) after day2

cooler
03-06-2009, 05:09 PM
this thread went silent since first game of today's AE:p

madbad
03-06-2009, 05:32 PM
this thread went silent since first game of today's AE:p

What are you implying?

Koi^^
03-06-2009, 05:35 PM
Well right now China has still a good chance to win all 5 of them...

will this be a record if this happens?

But hey this is AE... everything is still unpredictable... we'll see in just two days.. but I must say they have been impressive all in all.

madbad
03-06-2009, 05:43 PM
I knew CHN was going to to good but this is utter dominance. My hat off to LYB and the CHN team for injecting fresh blood into their mighty team and still plough everyone aside.

cooler
03-06-2009, 05:47 PM
What are you implying?noting, just very quiet. Maybe all busy on other score tracking threads

yen_saw
03-06-2009, 05:56 PM
I knew CHN was going to to good but this is utter dominance. My hat off to LYB and the CHN team for injecting fresh blood into their mighty team and still plough everyone aside.

Actually there was a post about the possibility of LYB losing his job to Li Mao due to recent "failure" in olympic. So LYB is telling all his players to win it all or he might not lead the team again :p

But agree with you hats off to LYB. Imagine if not because of the early casualty due to losing to their own compatriat we might even see more CHN flags in the Semi!!

madbad
03-06-2009, 06:00 PM
Actually there was a post about the possibility of LYB losing his job to Li Mao due to recent "failure" in olympic. So LYB is telling all his players to win it all or he might not lead the team again :p

But agree with you hats off to LYB. Imagine if not because of the early casualty due to losing to their own compatriat we might even see more CHN flags in the Semi!!

Isn't the world great? Failure is so relative, isn't it. And not just to lose your job but to your most hated enemy.

yen_saw
03-06-2009, 06:04 PM
maybe BAM should threaten KimHock only then MAS can do well :p

yen_saw
03-06-2009, 06:05 PM
And let Rexy replacing him :p

2cents
03-06-2009, 07:31 PM
。。。 more tests will await him (LCW) and these could include Boonsak, Sony, PG and TH. :cool:


I think it's more reasonable to say LCW would meet PG or TH. It's unlikely to meet them both in this tournament All England. Although it's still possible for LCW meeting both of them in Swiss open.

2cents
03-06-2009, 07:35 PM
Originally Posted by Loh View Post
。。。 more tests will await him (LCW) and these could include Boonsak, Sony, PG and TH.


In fact only TH tried to test LCW, no Boonsak, Sony, PG... They even never bother to try.:D

Loh
03-06-2009, 10:31 PM
I think it's more reasonable to say LCW would meet PG or TH. It's unlikely to meet them both in this tournament All England. Although it's still possible for LCW meeting both of them in Swiss open.

Of course LCW can't meet PG and TH in the same round, that's why I said "could".

If PG beats TH, then it will be PG or vice versa, but it "could" be either of them. :D

cooler
03-06-2009, 10:42 PM
Actually there was a post about the possibility of LYB losing his job to Li Mao due to recent "failure" in olympic. So LYB is telling all his players to win it all or he might not lead the team again :p

But agree with you hats off to LYB. Imagine if not because of the early casualty due to losing to their own compatriat we might even see more CHN flags in the Semi!! all depend if one call a promotion as a lost of job lol. LYB is gonna to head of china's racket sport division. Will li mao replace lyb and other nonsense? only silly people believe that.

yen_saw
03-06-2009, 10:48 PM
all depend if one call a promotion as a lost of job lol. LYB is gonna to head of china's racket sport division. Will li mao replace lyb and other nonsense? only silly people believe that.

You know, LYB will do everything to win it all in this prestige AE:) NOt that i know any country has done it before but this will definitely put him as the greatest coach of all time:eek:

jasonmarc
03-06-2009, 11:10 PM
As I said.....Chn is capable to win all title...........until SF.....They are still posible for them to sweep all title................even in MD.............what a team.....!

Loh
03-06-2009, 11:13 PM
I must say that the performance by the China women youngsters has been very impressive so far. Most of them showed that they could perform even better than their seniors.

At this rate CHN could even claim 4 titles in this AE, one better than what I have predicted.

Of course this AE has made a mockery of last year's inaugural SSF when two of the MAS winners can't even progressed beyond the QF stage, no thanks to CHN and DEN. And the SSF is supposed to be the pinnacle tournament to end last year's SS series with the highest payout!

Hope that LCW, the lone-standing SSF MS winner will salvage some pride for MAS. :)

george@chongwei
03-07-2009, 12:14 AM
i must admit that lin dan is still very very strong.
look at his match agaisnt JP:eek: unbelievable.
but on today's matcxh agaisnt CJ, no comment from me though:rolleyes:

jasonmarc
03-07-2009, 01:11 AM
i must admit that lin dan is still very very strong.
look at his match agaisnt JP:eek: unbelievable.
but on today's matcxh agaisnt CJ, no comment from me though:rolleyes:

Why no comment..........?.....George...U good friend with LYB....:D:D..?

Indeed....LD....will dominate until next Olympic ..in London.......I dont see LCW able to trouble him..........in near future.......unless LCW able to ups his game to another level....which .....I am doubt he can........sorry to say...!:(

george@chongwei
03-07-2009, 01:50 AM
Why no comment..........?.....George...U good friend with LYB....:D:D..?

Indeed....LD....will dominate until next Olympic ..in London.......I dont see LCW able to trouble him..........in near future.......unless LCW able to ups his game to another level....which .....I am doubt he can........sorry to say...!:(
speechless:D!
however, i think lin dan will win the match:cool:

madbad
03-07-2009, 02:36 AM
all depend if one call a promotion as a lost of job lol. LYB is gonna to head of china's racket sport division. Will li mao replace lyb and other nonsense? only silly people believe that.

But only the naive believe that can't happen ;)

eRa@에라
03-07-2009, 03:15 AM
china surely possible to win almost all if not all titles... haish...

limsy
03-07-2009, 03:58 AM
hehe...i will say 50-50 in ws....almost sure in wd....and almost sure in xd.....hehe....chance in ms is way higher than md....

jutawin
03-07-2009, 05:36 AM
China have big chance to sweep all titles..
let's see..
left 1 title to Taufik lah...

denilo
03-07-2009, 12:01 PM
Well, at least only WD is given in advance. Cai/Fu looks very strong. 4 titles looks realistic.

limsy
03-07-2009, 01:25 PM
hehe...maybe 5 this time...hehe...MAYBE

george@chongwei
03-07-2009, 11:18 PM
wow, impressive!
got 5 representative for china in all 5 category!;)

limsy
03-08-2009, 05:43 AM
hehe...okok...this time...i guess china will have 5 titlesssss...hehe

Dato A
03-08-2009, 05:54 AM
hehe...i will say 50-50 in ws....almost sure in wd....and almost sure in xd.....hehe....chance in ms is way higher than md....

CY/FHF is strong enough to win over the scratch koreans pair....

limsy
03-08-2009, 06:05 AM
CY/FHF is strong enough to win over the scratch koreans pair....

okok....md 100%.....

koo_fan
03-08-2009, 06:29 AM
wow, impressive!
got 5 representative for china in all 5 category!;)
Hmm.Can we learn something from their training camp?

limsy
03-08-2009, 06:35 AM
Hmm.Can we learn something from their training camp?

yes....maybe u can learn how to scold ur patner(ie MR Pxxxxx) until cry....:p

george@chongwei
03-08-2009, 07:00 AM
okok....md 100%.....
wd already comfirmed 1 title for china;):rolleyes:

limsy
03-08-2009, 10:13 AM
hehe...okok...this time...i guess china will have 5 titlesssss...hehe

60 percent correct already...:p

2cents
03-08-2009, 10:30 AM
good job limsy.

I am thinking something else. China badminton team has great pressure from their boss for Olympics. The achievement at Olympics will determine the future of the players and their coaches as well. LYB is losing his job because of lower than expected results at Olympics. While their performance on All England will not affect their career at all, however, they usually deliver much better result here at All England than Olympics. I think one of the reason is that they can send more players to open tournaments, while Olympics you have to depend on only 2 or 3 players.

limsy
03-08-2009, 10:35 AM
good job limsy.

I am thinking something else. China badminton team has great pressure from their boss for Olympics. The achievement at Olympics will determine the future of the players and their coaches as well. LYB is losing his job because of lower than expected results at Olympics. While their performance on All England will not affect their career at all, however, they usually deliver much better result here at All England than Olympics. I think one of the reason is that they can send more players to open tournaments, while Olympics you have to depend on only 2 or 3 players.

hehe...thanks...anyway....everyone in international scene is improving...so....more firework :)...

Smichz
03-08-2009, 10:42 AM
They'll take every single titles available in this AE.

FuWang
03-08-2009, 10:46 AM
wish that FuCai and WYH will fullfil the complete 5 titles... ^_^

pjswift
03-08-2009, 11:20 AM
good job limsy.

I am thinking something else. China badminton team has great pressure from their boss for Olympics. The achievement at Olympics will determine the future of the players and their coaches as well. LYB is losing his job because of lower than expected results at Olympics. While their performance on All England will not affect their career at all, however, they usually deliver much better result here at All England than Olympics. I think one of the reason is that they can send more players to open tournaments, while Olympics you have to depend on only 2 or 3 players.
Wow, that's tough.
You're right. It's tougher for CHN to have perfect score in Olympics because of entry limits.In fact CHN won golds in the 3 events where they have the maximum 3 entrants.Not the other two where they only have two entrants.Amazing correlations.

pjswift
03-08-2009, 11:22 AM
They'll take every single titles available in this AE.
Agree. So before WC, they have another 3 month military training?

Koi^^
03-08-2009, 12:43 PM
Congratulations team China for 5 golds in AE!!!!

tommy_bun
03-08-2009, 12:48 PM
Nothing or one with good luck...
this is the funniest comment....:p:D:D:p:D

suetyan
03-08-2009, 12:49 PM
Congratulation to China grabbed all 5 golds!!!

Thanks to :
He Hanbin/Yu Yang
Lin Dan
Zhang Yawen/Zhao Tingting
Wang Yihan
Cai Yun/Fu Haifeng

tommy_bun
03-08-2009, 12:53 PM
Congratulation to China grabbed all 5 golds!!!

Thanks to :
He Hanbin/Yu Yang
Lin Dan
Zhang Yawen/Zhao Tingting
Wang Yihan
Cai Yun/Fu Haifeng
Congrats to ur Yihan too and thanx to her for avenging Jiang's loss

Louisa
03-08-2009, 12:55 PM
Congrats.....China won all 5 titles....

1 silly idea came thru my mind....hihihi.....to produce talented players like China, we must first have a pool of talent...for that....fellow bolehians....quick go get married, deliver more babbies for baddy....

With those talented players, China players have to fight for their place in national team...our player...no result produced also can stay....

Louisa
03-08-2009, 12:56 PM
Congrats to ur Yihan too and thanx to her for avenging Jiang's loss
Yup, she deserves it...a good show by Yihan...

suetyan
03-08-2009, 12:57 PM
Congrats to ur Yihan too and thanx to her for avenging Jiang's loss
haha, yaya. No need to say thanks, we are china 'teammates' must help each other :D

ctjcad
03-08-2009, 12:58 PM
..maybe all of the top contending teams will skip the early tournaments to have a similar military training camp like the CHN squad just had..it worked for them, so who knows??..hmm..

cooler
03-08-2009, 01:00 PM
Agree. So before WC, they have another 3 month military training?Nope, each military training is good for 1 -2 years of badminton

mouthsky1117
03-08-2009, 01:09 PM
China won all the 5 championship title.. The effect of the training and the missing of the first 2 super series in resulting a lower world ranking of the player is getting a payback now. Of course all the other runners up is doing great as well.

bananakid
03-08-2009, 01:52 PM
Congrats.....China won all 5 titles....

1 silly idea came thru my mind....hihihi.....to produce talented players like China, we must first have a pool of talent...for that....fellow bolehians....quick go get married, deliver more babbies for baddy....

With those talented players, China players have to fight for their place in national team...our player...no result produced also can stay....


When you mixed the likes of Pjswift and X Ball together, you should be happy if you can produce the likes of the fuzzy like size kids.:p haha... just kidding.

limsy
03-08-2009, 02:43 PM
hehe...finally...i perdicted correctly....thumb up to china....but we will also improve....:)

hcpoirot
03-08-2009, 03:52 PM
Now me know why ranking points in badminton such a laugh. Even after winning AE , the rankings for the winning player didnot raise a lot.

Why? Cause in badminton the different points in winning Super series and Grand Prix tournaments are not that big.

SS got 9200 points. GP winner got 5000. So if you win 2 GP you will had more points than winning SS title.

Mean whille in tennis, winning Grand Slam (Only 4 GS in one year compare to so many SS in badminton) you win 2000 points. Win GP only got 500 points. You had to win 4 GP to equal one Grand Slam title.

And points between winner and finalist and then semi finalist also are hilarious in badminton.

Winner of SS get 9200 points, finalist got 7800 points (only 15,2% less ) and Semi finalist got 6420 (only 30% less) and so on. You only need to reach quarter twice in SS events to beat one SS champion points.

In tennis, winner of GS get 2000 points. Finalist get 1200 points (40 % less) and semifinal got 720 points (64 % less) You need to reach SIX of grand slam quarter final to win one GS winner.

Thats why lots of badminton rankings were hilarious and did not reflect the real strength for badminton players.

cooler
03-08-2009, 04:10 PM
Now me know why ranking points in badminton such a laugh. Even after winning AE , the rankings for the winning player didnot raise a lot.

Why? Cause in badminton the different points in winning Super series and Grand Prix tournaments are not that big.

SS got 9200 points. GP winner got 5000. So if you win 2 GP you will had more points than winning SS title.

Mean whille in tennis, winning Grand Slam (Only 4 GS in one year compare to so many SS in badminton) you win 2000 points. Win GP only got 500 points. You had to win 4 GP to equal one Grand Slam title.

And points between winner and finalist and then semi finalist also are hilarious in badminton.

Winner of SS get 9200 points, finalist got 7800 points (only 15,2% less ) and Semi finalist got 6420 (only 30% less) and so on. You only need to reach quarter twice in SS events to beat one SS champion points.

In tennis, winner of GS get 2000 points. Finalist get 1200 points (40 % less) and semifinal got 720 points (64 % less) You need to reach SIX of grand slam quarter final to win one GS winner.

Thats why lots of badminton rankings were hilarious and did not reflect the real strength for badminton players.
yup. People talks about lyb fixing but not bwf's distorted way to distribute points to fit their certain unspoken agenda. I don't mind that for open, but OG and WC use ranking points to limit players eligibility.

HaoFung
03-08-2009, 05:08 PM
that is indeed a problem... i dont see why China would actually care though... they always easily qualify for the maximum allowed players for OG and WC

besides... personally i think China stopped caring about world ranking

they should use the system in TT, you lose/win pts according to who you beat, not what you win ^^

volcom
03-08-2009, 06:24 PM
ALL Englands........

ALL CHINA :)

sudirman
03-08-2009, 07:26 PM
was lucky to see the history moment, first all 5 champions, in last 71 years (after 1938). saw the Chinese national team having private dinner in a Chinese restaurant. this is the photo from the window :)
http://auctionpix.co.uk/users/hzy1365196.jpg

suetyan
03-08-2009, 07:44 PM
Wow, nice picture, too bad I cant see clearly each of them :D

Ferrerkiko
03-08-2009, 07:46 PM
Woo ray, China swept all title for the first time at All England!:D

CLELY
03-08-2009, 09:14 PM
Not 2, 3 or 4 but 5. What an amazing achievement. For the first time CHN creates clean sweep in All England arena, wow!

jasonmarc
03-08-2009, 09:27 PM
Congrat..To Chn players but not to LYB..........clean sweep of all titles......

chris-ccc
03-08-2009, 09:40 PM
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2009 All England: CHN won all 5 titles.

Well Done CHINA !!! :):):)
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phaarix
03-08-2009, 09:47 PM
This is the first time!? I bet not one of the players wanted to be the one to let the team down :p. Maybe that is part of what gave them the strength! Sweeping the titles in any tournament is an achievement, but it's really something special in such an important and generally well attended (maybe not in MD though :() tournament as the All England.

bananakid
03-08-2009, 09:55 PM
This is the first time!? I bet not one of the players wanted to be the one to let the team down :p. Maybe that is part of what gave them the strength! Sweeping the titles in any tournament is an achievement, but it's really something special in such an important and generally well attended (maybe not in MD though :() tournament as the All England.


It wasn't easy for Cai/Fu to win this year's AE... they really earned it, as they battled through each round. Nobody can say they had an easy draw, or they had teammates help, because there was none whatsoever.

The most impressive thing is that as soon as the 2 possibly very best team were absent in this tournament, Cai/Fu immediately tells the world who the next best is by winning the AE, and they didn't have to wear any gold chain, or telling the world how they were going to dominate in Europe, or dye their hair gold... They did it by winning a tournament.:cool:

gjoo888
03-08-2009, 10:03 PM
Everyone of them, very impressive.

hcyong
03-08-2009, 11:04 PM
Hole-in-one! But better, because it wasn't by luck.

jutawin
03-09-2009, 10:16 AM
China swept all the titles. They are so greedy. hehe..

cooler
03-09-2009, 10:57 AM
China swept all the titles. They are so greedy. hehe..yes, greedy on the OG, WC, AE, TC/UC, much less so for AG, IO, MO:p

cooler
03-09-2009, 11:03 AM
It wasn't easy for Cai/Fu to win this year's AE... they really earned it, as they battled through each round. Nobody can say they had an easy draw, or they had teammates help, because there was none whatsoever.

The most impressive thing is that as soon as the 2 possibly very best team were absent in this tournament, Cai/Fu immediately tells the world who the next best is by winning the AE, and they didn't have to wear any gold chain, or telling the world how they were going to dominate in Europe, or dye their hair gold... They did it by winning a tournament.:cool:too bad on the fall out of the kido and setiawan pair. I sure like to see a rematch of between fu/cai and kido/setiawan, a chance for fu/cai to redeem themself.

george@chongwei
03-10-2009, 03:32 AM
5 TITLES!
impressive! thumbs up!:)

jasonmarc
03-10-2009, 03:35 AM
And now.....we shd start a new threat.....'Can China Swweep all 5 Titles again in Swiss Open'..?

george@chongwei
03-10-2009, 04:34 AM
And now.....we shd start a new threat.....'Can China Swweep all 5 Titles again in Swiss Open'..?
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1112399&posted=1#post1112399

FuWang
03-10-2009, 09:24 PM
got news about Malay's coach accused China "arrange the matches".... sorry if repost...

http://olahraga.kompas.com/read/xml/2009/03/09/17455521/malaysia.tuduh.china.atur.pertandingan