I see INA, MAS, and HKG players are in the Dutch Junior draw... ;)

www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/draws.aspx (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/draws.aspx)

I only know Wing Ki Wong from HKG who is a notable player. He reached the quarterfinals of the 2008 Hong Kong Open SS; lost to Taufik Hidayat there. Somehow, Wong is only seeded 4 in this Dutch Junior. I guess the organizers know better... :p

In BS:
Kho Hendrikho Wibowo is seeded [9/16]
Riyanto Subagja and Arif Gifar Ramadhan are unseeded.

GS:
Ayu Wanda Tika Wulandari and Risca Meisiani are unseeded

BD:
Mohd Ulinnuha/Berry Angriawan are unseeded.

BD:
Yayu Rahayu/Delis Yuliana and Jenna Gozali/Rufika Olivia are unseeded.

XD:
Mohd Ulinnuha/Jenna Gozali and Berry Angriawan/Yayu Rahayu are unseeded.

Dutch Junior 2009 (25 February-01 March 2009)
Venue : Badmintonhall Duinwijk, Haarlem, The Netherlands
Official Website : www.dutchjunior.nl (http://www.dutchjunior.nl)

Tournamentsoftware link -- http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/tournament.aspx?id=27024

well..beside a few from hong kong...sikki is another player to watch...:o

this tournament is a good platform to observe ina player...hehe...:p

In BS:
Kho Hendrikho Wibowo is seeded [9/16]
Riyanto Subagja and Arif Gifar Ramadhan are unseeded.

GS:
Ayu Wanda Tika Wulandari and Risca Meisiani are unseeded

BD:
Mohd Ulinnuha/Berry Angriawan are unseeded.

BD:
Yayu Rahayu/Delis Yuliana and Jenna Gozali/Rufika Olivia are unseeded.

XD:
Mohd Ulinnuha/Jenna Gozali and Berry Angriawan/Yayu Rahayu are unseeded.

Well... I see the Dutch organizers think #1 ranked INA Junior pair Ullin-Berry aren't even worthy enough to be seeded #16... :p I think the organizers will regret it... ;) Good for Ullin-Berry, they don't need to feel any pressure at all... :p :D

Does anybody know who the top BS seed [Pedro Martins of Portugal] is? Is he good? Is he a top Junior player in Europe or something?

Note: we just learned that Kho Hendrikho will not be going to Europe due to dengue-fever that he got around 5-10 days ago...

Men's Singles Winners Dutch Junior
2008 R.M.V. Guru Sai Dutt IND
2007 Lim Fang Yang MAS
2006 Mohd Arif Abdul Latif MAS
2005 Choi Sang Won KOR
2004 Martin Bille Larsen DEN
2003 Hendra Wijaya SIN
2002 Chen Lin CHN
2001 Lin Dan CHN
2000 Ardiansyah INA
1999 Wimpie Mahardi INA
1998 Ian Maywald GER
1997 Keita Masuda JPN
1996 Yudi Suprajogi INA
1995 Johan Hadi Kusuma INA
1994 Jaffer R. INA
1993 Michael Tedjakusuma INA
1992 Georg Rinaldi INA
1991 Martin Lundgaard Hansen DEN
1990 Steffan Pandya ENG
1989 Thomas Stuer-Lauridsen DEN
1988 Thomas Stuer-Lauridsen DEN

looks like this year gurusaidut is not here;)

the seedings for the dutch junior are done by the EBU, and why some players are seeded and others are not is a mystery to evereyone.... look at the difference between the seedings in the german junior, it's completely different, while there have the same players + the korean and danisch players...

Originally, Wing ki wong was not seedes at all by the EBU, but the organisatoin strongly suggested to seed him...

Pedro Martins was runner up last year, and he is a top european junior player, who plays mostly senior tournaments in europe (f.e. winning all his matches in european mixed team championships)

will be a good tournament though, I look forward to some good matches!

well..beside a few from hong kong...sikki is another player to watch...:o

this tournament is a good platform to observe ina player...hehe...:p

tell me abt reddy sikki? have not heard abt her. She played alot of tournament?

tell me abt reddy sikki? have not heard abt her. She played alot of tournament?

well...this should speak alot...
http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=24922&d=20081017

train together with saina...just like aditi mutatkar...ind ws is rising...wc/zm almost lost to aditi in mo 09....3rd set 21-19...

sikki is another saina nehwal...just like sonia...she can play in both ws and wd...:o

erm...the time different is 6?from mas....thanks in advance...

Originally, Wing ki wong was not seedes at all by the EBU, but the organisatoin strongly suggested to seed him...

Pedro Martins was runner up last year, and he is a top european junior player, who plays mostly senior tournaments in europe (f.e. winning all his matches in european mixed team championships)
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If Pedro Martins can defeat Wing Ki Wong in their top draw, maybe we can see them play against INA's 15-year-old Riyanto Subagja who is in the bottom draw... Unseeded Riyanto might have to play against 3 seeded players on the way to the finals... :p Actually, Pedro might possibly face Gifar in the Round of 16....:cool:

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sikki is another saina nehwal...just like sonia...she can play in both ws and wd...:o

I want to see Sikki play against INA's Rischa and Ayu... ;)
Note: in the past, as a junior player, Susi Susanti once won the WS, WD, and XD titles of a Tournament. I forgot which one... :p

If Pedro Martins can defeat Wing Ki Wong in their top draw, maybe we can see them play against INA's 15-year-old Riyanto Subagja who is in the bottom draw... Unseeded Riyanto might have to play against 3 seeded players on the way to the finals... :p Actually, Pedro might possibly face Gifar in the Round of 16....:cool:
I want to see Sikki play against INA's Rischa and Ayu... ;)
Note: in the past, as a junior player, Susi Susanti once won the WS, WD, and XD titles of a Tournament. I forgot which one... :p

u look SO confident???:eek:

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Rischa Meissiani
I heard her family was originally from Manado, North Sulawesi.

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Ayu Wanda
She was born in Samarinda, East Kalimantan.

Zulfadli Zulkiffli. Watch this guy. http://www.toernooi.nl/sport/player.aspx?id=26046&player=74

Maybe not as good as Win Ki Wong yet, but close to winning against Abdul Latif and winning all main junior tournaments, mostly without even dropping 12 points in one set. I think he's quite talented. Already played Lee Chong Wei before, so he has some experience playing top class players.

Exciting 2 weeks ahead for the Djarum boys/girls. In particular, I am hoping to see good results from Riyanto Subagja (the Tarakan Open Champion in BS category) in the BS (heard he's highly talented and already managed to push some of the Djarum seniors to the limit during trainings).

In the BD, Mohd Ulinnuha/Berry Angriawan will be hungry for a first international title in the next fortnight....which will put them in good position for the WJC later this year. I believe Sigit Budiarto will also be anxious to see if one of his several proteges can shine in international tourneys.

Zulfadli Zulkiffli. Watch this guy. http://www.toernooi.nl/sport/player.aspx?id=26046&player=74

Maybe not as good as Win Ki Wong yet, but close to winning against Abdul Latif and winning all main junior tournaments, mostly without even dropping 12 points in one set. I think he's quite talented. Already played Lee Chong Wei before, so he has some experience playing top class players.

well...i hope he is better than wwk now...:)...anyway...he should be the to mas ms under 19...in my note book...;)...surely...u doing some homework to check on the player...:D

look out for lorenzo van velzen's singles match!

hahahaha

well, let's see how good that steven stewart is
my first year going to the dutch junior:p
my trainer convinced me to go, but i was like ''whaaaaat??? i'm only 15 and not a supernatural talent like taufik:P''


but
doesnt matter:p

Gifar is through to the next round... :) He completely destroyed Max Schwenger of Germany in the final game 21-7...

zulfadli on court now...

zulfadli won...looking forward how ng sun ly will perform...

Riyanto is through to the round of 64... :) Took him only 18 minutes to defeat the Scott.

Pedro Martins of Portugal is a excellent player and standards a good chance.

You can come from Europe and be a good player :)

I think Riyanto's display was excellent, Gifar may have won the third game comfortably, the first two games he was stuggling a bit I think. Zulfadli won quite easily. Ng Sun Ly seemed to have a hard match, I don't know if he was giving 100% during his match... :p

Pedro Martins certainly is a really good player. However, for example Win Ki Wong already reached a SS QF, I don't thin Martins already has this capability. By the way, Wong played Taufik 15 and 19 in this particular quarterfinal :rolleyes:

Ng Sun Ly seemed to have a hard match, I don't know if he was giving 100% during his match... :p


and i dunno who is him...hehe...:p

I think Riyanto's display was excellent, Gifar may have won the third game comfortably, the first two games he was stuggling a bit I think. Zulfadli won quite easily. Ng Sun Ly seemed to have a hard match, I don't know if he was giving 100% during his match... :p

Pedro Martins certainly is a really good player. However, for example Win Ki Wong already reached a SS QF, I don't thin Martins already has this capability. By the way, Wong played Taufik 15 and 19 in this particular quarterfinal :rolleyes:

pls tell me how u think about sonia cheah...:)

Don't really know her.. Her junior results look okay, although she doesn't win the tournaments as easy as zulfadli :rolleyes:
Her first match wasn't really a test I think, her opponent was just a club player from Haarlem (tournament location), so easy win.
Her draw does look quite well, only one other Asian player in her quarter, an Indian player (unknown to me).. I don't know how good the 3/4 seed Russian is.. Her results in the European youth circuit are good, but (unfortunately;)) Asia is always stronger.

Don't really know her.. Her junior results look okay, although she doesn't win the tournaments as easy as zulfadli :rolleyes:
Her first match wasn't really a test I think, her opponent was just a club player from Haarlem (tournament location), so easy win.
Her draw does look quite well, only one other Asian player in her quarter, an Indian player (unknown to me).. I don't know how good the 3/4 seed Russian is.. Her results in the European youth circuit are good, but (unfortunately;)) Asia is always stronger.

i mean...do u watch her match???:confused:

No.. I'm not there at the moment, it's about 40 minutes from here but I have some tests at school. Next to that, an airplane has crashed next to the motorway to the city so it is hard to reach it at the moment :p

Her draw does look quite well, only one other Asian player in her quarter, an Indian player (unknown to me).. I don't know how good the 3/4 seed Russian is.. Her results in the European youth circuit are good, but (unfortunately;)) Asia is always stronger.

sikki is a good one...as she can almost beat saina nehwal...and then won the wd match...;)...hope she can go further

No.. I'm not there at the moment, it's about 40 minutes from here but I have some tests at school. Next to that, an airplane has crashed next to the motorway to the city so it is hard to reach it at the moment :p

wow...:eek:....hehe...well...will u go this few day???:D....if yes...pls tell us what u see...:)..^^...ok???thanks in advance...:)

u look SO confident???:eek:

Well... INA is not a weak badminton country, you know... :cool:

Pedro Martins of Portugal is a excellent player and standards a good chance.

You can come from Europe and be a good player :)

Excellent! :cool: We need outstanding players from Portugal, Italy, etc. to improve the image of badminton... :cool:

I think Riyanto's display was excellent, Gifar may have won the third game comfortably, the first two games he was stuggling a bit I think. Zulfadli won quite easily. Ng Sun Ly seemed to have a hard match, I don't know if he was giving 100% during his match... :p

Pedro Martins certainly is a really good player. However, for example Win Ki Wong already reached a SS QF, I don't thin Martins already has this capability. By the way, Wong played Taufik 15 and 19 in this particular quarterfinal :rolleyes:

I predict a Round of 16 clash between Pedro Martins and Gifar... :cool: ;)

Well... INA is not a weak badminton country, you know... :cool:


okok...;)...result will speak...:)

Ayu has joined Rischa [who got a bye] in the Round of 64. All INA singles will play tomorrow... :)

Unseeded Ullin-Jenna destroyed the Bulgarian pair in 15 minutes with 19 smash winners vs. 3 from the Bulgarians... :p Ullin-Jenna was INA's number one ranked pair in 2008 throughout the whole year but somehow was unseeded by the Dutch Junior organizers... Fine. We'll see... :p They will regret not giving this XD pair any seeded spot...

All the INA boys and girls are through. Today and Friday will be one match each; while Saturday and Sunday will be the tough ones where the singles have to play 2 matches; while doubles 4 matches (if they manage to progress all the way to Sunday).

i hope the malaysian junior team fares better than their senior in the German Open. This is an important tournament for malaysia to prepare for WJC in Oct.

i hope the malaysian junior team fares better than their senior in the German Open. This is an important tournament for malaysia to prepare for WJC in Oct.

well...i wonder yang li lian is not here...and also florah ng....and wd 2nd pair...:rolleyes:

Zulfadli Zulkiffli. Watch this guy. http://www.toernooi.nl/sport/player.aspx?id=26046&player=74

Maybe not as good as Win Ki Wong yet, but close to winning against Abdul Latif and winning all main junior tournaments, mostly without even dropping 12 points in one set. I think he's quite talented. Already played Lee Chong Wei before, so he has some experience playing top class players.
yes, agree with this;)

all the best to mas in this tournament!:)
camon zulfadli!! grab the title!:)

all the best to mas in this tournament!:)
camon zulfadli!! grab the title!:)

acording to krisna...ina junior in this tournament is STRONG u know?;)

acording to krisna...ina junior in this tournament is STRONG u know?;)
if u want to be the champion, u have to face every challenges;)

I predict a Round of 16 clash between Pedro Martins and Gifar... :cool: ;)

...and Riyanto Subagja is expected to face Iskandar Zulkarnain Zainuddin in the QF (if he can clear the next 3 rounds).

Ayu Wanda Tika Wulandari is also scheduled to meet the highly-seeded HKG girl Chan Tsz Ka tomorrow.

After looking at the draws of the German Junior (next week), the Djarum contingent is likely to meet heads-on with the Korean juniors pretty early.

if u want to be the champion, u have to face every challenges;)

well...all i know is krisna pretty confident abt ina player performance in this tournament...;)

...
After looking at the draws of the German Junior (next week), the Djarum contingent is likely to meet heads-on with the Korean juniors pretty early.

mind to share the link here???:)

well...all i know is krisna pretty confident abt ina player performance in this tournament...;)

and why not :rolleyes:?? The BD pair Ullin/Berry should be a strong contender for the title in Dutch Junior, with the MAS pairs (which they will probably meet in the SF and F) being their obstacles.

The XD pair Ullin/Jenna is also not INA junior champs for nothing :cool: If they can beat Wong Wing Ki/Chan Tsz Ka tomorrow, they should progress to at least SF.

As for Riyanto, I expect him to reach QF.

mind to share the link here???:)

It's out in tournamentsoftware.com already.

mind to share the link here???:)
there you go>> http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/tournament.aspx?id=27550

It's out in tournamentsoftware.com already.

if i can found it...i no need ask ur help already lar...:p...pls give me the link...:)

if i can found it...i no need ask ur help already lar...:p...pls give me the link...:)
refresh this thread in your browser.
look at post #48:D

In the WJC 2008 Team Event, Ullin/Jenna won ALL 3 matches, including beating Mak Hee Chun/Vivian Ho Kah Mun (SF finish at the Individual Event). Too bad, they were not played in the Individual Event, otherwise, they could get some good results :rolleyes:

No problem for Yayu Rahayu/Delis Yuliana as they progress to R32. I think they will progress to at least R16 where they will meet the top-seed Selena Piek/Iris Tabeling. Clearing that hurdle, they should meet N. Sikki Reddy/Prajakta Sawant [5/8] for a place in the last 4.

Jenna Gozali/Rufika Olivia should progress to at least QF where again a Malaysian pair Ng Hui Ern/Ong Boon Hui should await them. If they can beat the MAS, I think they will go to the Final to entertain either Pook Lok Yan/Tze Ying Suet [3/4], another MAS pair Sonia Cheah Su Ya/Tee Jing Yi, or their own teammate ;)

Matches involving INA Juniors today:
BD R64 Mohd Ullinnuha/Berry Angriawan vs Gary Fox/Richard Morris
GS R64 Zdenka Svedova vs Ayu Wanda Tika Wulandari
GS R64 Isabel Herttrich vs Rischa Meissiani
BS R64 Arief Gifar Ramadhan vs Mathias Fernstorm
BS R64 Maxime Moreels vs Riyanto Subagja

Confirmed matches tomorrow:
XD R32 Wong Wing Ki/Chan Tsz Ka [3/4] vs Mohd Ullinnuha/Jenna Gozali -- a tough one to call...but I hope Ullin/Jena can progress!
XD R32 Richard Domke/Alina Hammes vs Berry Angriawan/Yayu Rahayu
WD R32 Debbie Janssens/Jelske Snoeck vs Yayu Rahayu/Delis Yuliana
WD R32 Jenna Gozali/Rufika Olivia vs Cendrine Hantz/Sarka Kriskova [5/8]

acording to krisna...ina junior in this tournament is STRONG u know?;)

Well... I just said that INA is not a weak badminton country... :D He he he... Hey, although INA is not as dominant today as in the 1970s-80s-90s where we won a total of 13 Thomas Cups, 3 Uber Cups, and 1 Sudirman Cup... INA still could manage to win at least one gold in every single Olympic since 1992... ;)

In the WJC 2008 Team Event, Ullin/Jenna won ALL 3 matches, including beating Mak Hee Chun/Vivian Ho Kah Mun (SF finish at the Individual Event). Too bad, they were not played in the Individual Event, otherwise, they could get some good results :rolleyes:

Ullin is a disciple of Sigit Budiarto, Jenna a student of Deni Kantono... Both teachers were former #1 MD players on Earth ;). As for Ayu, Rischa, Riyanto, and Gifar, they are going to be the last students of Fang Kaixiang before he retires for good... Even though they are young [age ranging from 15-18], they are not soft & fluffy toys to be brushed aside in this Dutch Junior event... :p :D:D Somehow the organizers have no clue who they are, thus they didn't seed Ullin-Jenna and the others...

Oh, by the way, Delis-Yayu are through to the next round... :cool:

Confirmed matches tomorrow:
XD R32 Wong Wing Ki/Chan Tsz Ka [3/4] vs Mohd Ullinnuha/Jenna Gozali -- a tough one to call...but I hope Ullin/Jena can progress!


I saw Wing Ki play in Hong Kong... Still a bit clumsy... Ullin is a more natural doubles player than Wing Ki. Jenna is also a talented doubles player. Killer hand skills [unfortunately she got relatively short legs]... :p

I predict a 51% chance of Ullin-Jenna defeating the seeded HK pair... ;)

Well... I just said that INA is not a weak badminton country... :D He he he... Hey, although INA is not as dominant today as in the 1970s-80s-90s where we won a total of 13 Thomas Cups, 3 Uber Cups, and 1 Sudirman Cup... INA still could manage to win at least one gold in every single Olympic since 1992... ;)



i didnt say u are wrong...:)

i didnt say u are wrong...:)

Oh, I know... :p It seems the only people who forgot that INA Juniors are never too weak are the Dutch Junior organizers... :D :D I'm still baffled with the fact that they don't seed the #1 MD [Ullin-Berry] and #1 XD [Ullin-Jenna] of Indonesia... :eek: Not even seed 9-16... :D So, somehow, they think the Polish, Bulgarian, Scottish Juniors are more worthy seeds than the top ranked INA Juniors... :eek: :D Ok, it is their right. I think this INA Junior team in Holland need to remind the Dutch Junior organizers that we are still no pushovers, dude... :D:D

The German Junior organizers, on the other hand, did not underestimate the same INA players/pairs... ;)

Oh, I know... :p It seems the only people who forgot that INA Juniors are never too weak are the Dutch Junior organizers... :D :D I'm still baffled with the fact that they don't seed the #1 MD [Ullin-Berry] and #1 XD [Ullin-Jenna] of Indonesia... :eek: Not even seed 9-16... :D So, somehow, they think the Polish, Bulgarian, Scottish Juniors are more worthy seeds than the top ranked INA Juniors... :eek: :D Ok, it is their right. I think this INA Junior team in Holland need to remind the Dutch Junior organizers that we are still no pushovers, dude... :D:D



hehe...well...dutch junior organiser will learn their lesson when this tournmanet ended...:)

Ullin/Berry won in just 20 mins, albeit a little bit laboured...rather than a convincing one.

Ayu has no problem beating her second opponent and will now face a tough test against Chan Tsz Ka [3/4] tomorrow.

Seedings were actually done by Badminton Europe first, so high-ranked couples in the European ranking, although it is wrong, are seeded because this tournament is a part of the European Junior Circuit as well. I hope to go to the hall tomorrow and watch some matches.

Seedings were actually done by Badminton Europe first, so high-ranked couples in the European ranking, although it is wrong, are seeded because this tournament is a part of the European Junior Circuit as well. I hope to go to the hall tomorrow and watch some matches.

looking forward on ur analysis...:)

Rischa outclassed her German opponent 21-8, 21-13... On to the next round... :)

Now we wait for Gifar and Riyanto...

Seedings were actually done by Badminton Europe first, so high-ranked couples in the European ranking, although it is wrong, are seeded because this tournament is a part of the European Junior Circuit as well. I hope to go to the hall tomorrow and watch some matches.

I wonder if the same Badminton Europe decided on the seedings of the German Junior [next week]... somehow, that tournament, which is also in the European Junior Circuit, have a different idea on who deserve to be seeded... :confused: I personally think the German organizers are more realistic... :D I know there is no set rules on whom to seed in International junior tournaments... The INA players just have to prove the Dutch Junior organizers that they are waaayyyy offff this time around... :p He he he...

If I were the organizers of the Dutch or German Junior... If I know the #1 pair/player of INA, CHN, MAS, KOR are in town... I will at least seed them as the 5-8 seeds... :p

This is pretty much like in soccer... even if I don't know how good the Junior teams of Brazil, Italy, Germany, Argentina are... I will seed them at least as the 5-8 seeds... By sheer reputation of their country's soccer prowess throughout soccer's history... :p

But that's just me... :o

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This photo was taken from the official website... :D
The flying INA player around the top right is... Berry... I think...

Gifar defeated Matias Fernstrom of Sweden in 25 minutes...

1st mas player lost...wonder why ykh choose him...sigh...

Both Gifar and Riyanto sail through the next round.

Remaining fixtures for today:
BD R32 Matijs Dierickx/Maxime Moreels vs Mohd Ullinuha/Berry Angriawan
GS R32 Cha Tsz Ka [3/4] vs Ayu Wanda Tika Wulandari -- in terms of experience, I think the Hong-Kong girl has had exposure to int tourneys, so, she has the edge.
GS R32 Rischa Meissiani vs Lianne Tan [2] -- I think an upset is likely here.
BS R32 Adrain Dziolko [9/16] vs Arief Gifar Ramadhan -- ditto as above.
BS R32 Riyanto Subagja vs Nikolaj Persson

hope sonia can do what cwf cant this morning...

Both Gifar and Riyanto sail through the next round.

Remaining fixtures for today:
BD R32 Matijs Dierickx/Maxime Moreels vs Mohd Ullinuha/Berry Angriawan
GS R32 Cha Tsz Ka [3/4] vs Ayu Wanda Tika Wulandari -- in terms of experience, I think the Hong-Kong girl has had exposure to int tourneys, so, she has the edge.
GS R32 Rischa Meissiani vs Lianne Tan [2] -- I think an upset is likely here.
BS R32 Adrain Dziolko [9/16] vs Arief Gifar Ramadhan -- ditto as above.
BS R32 Riyanto Subagja vs Nikolaj Persson

I agree with all badMania's assesment. Ayu will test Cha Tsz Ka, but most probably will not win this time... :p I say Ayu has a 40% chance of winning, while Cha has 60% chance... ;)

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15-year-old Riyanto...

Prediction: one day, if there are no injuries or other unexpected problems, Riyanto Subagja and Chen Long of China will be rivals in the world stage. 2016 Olympics maybe... :D Riyanto will be 22/23 then. Chen Long around 25/26... Both are good looking athletes... Young girls will swarm the stadium... :cool: They will hopefully improve badminton's popularity...


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Gifar in action.

He is a tough competitor. Not as talented as Riyanto, but very hard working and won't ever surrender. :) Good working-class ethic.


Note:
Riyanto's height: 179 cm
Gifar's height: 176 cm
Both are still 15 years old today.

Is Riyanto Subagja in any way related to Ricky Subagja? I thought the young boy bears a resemblance to the legendary MD player. Hmmm...

Tomorrow afternoon, I hope to have a look at some matches.
Zulfadli had a really confident win yesterday (21-4 2nd game!), same goes for Iskander, Win Ki Wong, Riyanto and Pedro Martins.
I think the only remarkable result was the loss of Sun Ly against the Czech in three games... I don't know how old/strong Sun is, but as he appears to be in the Malaysian natioanl squad so can't be bad :p
In WS, Sonia passed through easily, but all Indonesian, Hong Kong and Malaysian girls did, so it looks good for Asia there.
Today clash between Lianne Tan (2) and Rischa Meissiani. I think this will be a close match, Lianne is a good player who was close to beating Yao Jie (former European Champion, Thailand Open champion and nr. #5 in world ranking) during European Team Championships, so her shape seems okay. She slaughted her Czech opponent yesterday (5 and 11) so won't be exhausted.
I noticed that in men's and women's doubles both there is only one Indonesian couple, but these couples will be top players probably.
In WD, the Indo's can already meet first seeded Dutch players tomorrow in last sixteen. Strange draw, because the Dutch girls - even although I know European badminton is worse - are really good reaching last 16 or last 8 at last year's World Junior Champ. as 2nd years -17, so don't underestimate them. In MD, the Indo's should actually win the upcoming matches, as I see the second seeded couple does not have really noticable results.
The Mixed doubles is exciting, today's matches will bring victory to the Asian couples probably, but the first seeded Jacco and Selena reached the quarterfinals as u17 last year, and were very close to beating the final winners from China. Hopefully some Dutch success there :p

...Prediction: one day, if there are no injuries or other unexpected problems, Riyanto Subagja and Chen Long of China will be rivals in the world stage. 2016 Olympics maybe... :D Riyanto will be 22/23 then. Chen Long around 25/26... Both are good looking athletes... Young girls will swarm the stadium... :cool: They will hopefully improve badminton's popularity...
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Note:
Riyanto's height: 179 cm
Gifar's height: 176 cm
Both are still 15 years old today.
..Riyanto and Chen Long, esp. looking at their height. Wow, 15 yrs old and already 179cm?!?!..

I noticed that in men's and women's doubles both there is only one Indonesian couple, but these couples will be top players probably.
In WD, the Indo's can already meet first seeded Dutch players tomorrow in last sixteen. Strange draw, because the Dutch girls - even although I know European badminton is worse - are really good reaching last 16 or last 8 at last year's World Junior Champ. as 2nd years -17, so don't underestimate them. In MD, the Indo's should actually win the upcoming matches, as I see the second seeded couple does not have really noticable results.
The Mixed doubles is exciting, today's matches will bring victory to the Asian couples probably, but the first seeded Jacco and Selena reached the quarterfinals as u17 last year, and were very close to beating the final winners from China. Hopefully some Dutch success there :p

That's because Jenna/Olivia got a bye yesterday. Today, 2 pairs in GD. Only 1 pair in BD Ullin/Berry and as Krisna mentioned, they are INA's no 1 BD pair at the moment, winning several tourneys in 08 and 09. They are certainly one of INA's best hope in WJC this year. As for XD, Ullin/Jenna is a very strong pair as well as they are INA's no 1 junior XD pair at the moment.

..Riyanto and Chen Long, esp. looking at their height. Wow, 15 yrs old and already 179cm?!?!..
go and see how tall is zulfadli...:)

ong boon hui/pang zheng lin suddenly wake up from 5-13 down in 2nd set...:rolleyes:...and now they at behind again....:rolleyes:

ong boon hui/pang zheng lin suddenly wake up from 5-13 down in 2nd set...:rolleyes:...and now they at behind again....:rolleyes:

and they lost...faint...so lame...

hehe...anyway...:rolleyes:...hope sonia can made my day today...:)

Is Riyanto Subagja in any way related to Ricky Subagja? I thought the young boy bears a resemblance to the legendary MD player. Hmmm...

As far as we know, they are not related... :p Just out of curiosity, are Chen Hong, Chen Jin, and Chen Long? :confused:

That's because Jenna/Olivia got a bye yesterday. Today, 2 pairs in GD. Only 1 pair in BD Ullin/Berry and as Krisna mentioned, they are INA's no 1 BD pair at the moment, winning several tourneys in 08 and 09. They are certainly one of INA's best hope in WJC this year. As for XD, Ullin/Jenna is a very strong pair as well as they are INA's no 1 junior XD pair at the moment.

Actually, Jenna will become 19 this year... :p Ullin-Berry are not ranked number 1 anymore in INA today because Jenna is not Under-19 under BWF and PBSI category. They were the number 1 INA XD as of December 31, 2008... :cool:

I think Ullin/Jenna beat the seeded HKG pair, when I left my office, they were leading 1-0 (21-17). But results are not updated yet in tournamentsoftware.com :rolleyes:

As far as we know, they are not related... :p Just out of curiosity, are Chen Hong, Chen Jin, and Chen Long? :confused:


Well, Chen is a common Chinese surname; so is Wong and Lee :p But Subagja...hmm....;)

I think Ullin/Jenna beat the seeded HKG pair, when I left my office, they were leading 1-0 (21-17). But results are not updated yet in tournamentsoftware.com :rolleyes:

Oh good... I was wondering why there are no updates yet... :o Berry-Yayu won their first game 21-17 just now and leading 14-9 in the 2nd game...

Berry/Yayu won comfortably 21-14, 21-15 as they progress to R16.

Well, Chen is a common Chinese surname; so is Wong and Lee :p But Subagja...hmm....;)

Yes, I know... Oh, recently I learned that Vita Marissa is actually a close cousin of Harianto Arbi, Eddy Hartono, and Hastomo Arbi. ;) What a strong badminton family...

Berry/Yayu won comfortably 21-14, 21-15 as they progress to R16.

Alright!!! :cool: Cool!

Oh, by the way, apparently, Ayu Wanda's opponent from Hong Kong, Chan Tsz Ka, was the 2008 Tangkas Alfamart Under-19 champion.

Another breeze for Yayu/Delis. Yayu played 2 matches in 1 hr :eek: They will face the top-seed Selena Piek/Iris Tabeling for a place in the last 8. Similarly, Berry/Yayu will face the second-seed Paul Van Rietvelde/Gillian Sloan [2]. I think upsets are very likely tomorrow.
If Ullin/Jenna indeed win today, they should also beat Nico Codewe/Franziska Burket.

Ditto for Jenna/Olivia as they beat the 5/8th seeded pair in straight-sets 21-17, 21-16. They will meet Thamar Peters/Josephine Wentholt tomorrow.

Ulin/Jenna won in 2 sets
so did top seed Arends/Piek won in 2 sets

That's good :D

Partial matches for tomorrow:
XD R16 Mohd Ulinnuha/Jenna Gozali vs Nico Codewe/Franziska Burkert
XD R16 Berry Angriawan/Yayu Rahayu vs Paul Van Rietvelde/Gillian Sloan [2]

GD R16 Selena Piek/Iris Tabeling [1] vs Yayu Rahayu/Delis Yuliana
GD R16 Thamar Peters/Josephine Wentholt vs Jenna Gozali/Rufika Olivia

Ullin/Berry progress as expected and they will test the second-seed tomorrow.

Ulin/Jenna won in 2 sets
so did top seed Arends/Piek won in 2 sets

I wonder why the results were not reported... :confused: Anyway, good news for team INA... :D No casualties until this minute...

But Ayu is trailing 11-21, 9-13 at the moment... It is tough to win against this more experienced Hong Kong player... :o Chan already won once in INA's homeland, at the Tangkas Alfamart International Junior tournament last year...

Ayu Wanda is the 1st INA casualty in this tournament. Loosing to Chan Tsz Ka 11-21, 12-21...

That's kinda expected...esp for a really really green rookie like Ayu :o

Chan already won once in INA's homeland, at the Tangkas Alfamart International Junior tournament last year...

These HKG players are pretty experienced. I have seen their names in some senior events too (eg: Tse Ying Suet/Chan Tsz Ka -- QF Finish at the HKG SS :eek:)

These HKG players are pretty experienced. I have seen their names in some senior events too (eg: Tse Ying Suet/Chan Tsz Ka -- QF Finish at the HKG SS :eek:)
yes, thats right.
i remember i got some big paw points courtesy of this tsz ka chan in that HKG open:D

That's kinda expected...esp for a really really green rookie like Ayu :o

My friend in the Holland said that Ayu played in a tentative manner. Lost her gameplan around 1/3 of every game and seemed confused on what to do against this good HK player... :p Her usually 'devilish' shots ceased to become fearsome after her confusion... :p

sigh, omg..sonia just lost the 1st set 19-21. to redy.
hope she can win the 2nd set and the 3rd!
gogogo sonia:p

The doubles pair should be good enough for another round of win tomorrow; for all to book a place in the last 8. Then, the hard matches will begin. I am hoping for Ullin/Jenna to meet Berry/Yayu (if they can beat the MAS pair), and then Yayu/Dellis to face Jenna/Olivia in the Final. We shall see....

well...i will sum the conclusion after the tournament end...

The doubles pair should be good enough for another round of win tomorrow; for all to book a place in the last 8. Then, the hard matches will begin. I am hoping for Ullin/Jenna to meet Berry/Yayu (if they can beat the MAS pair), and then Yayu/Dellis to face Jenna/Olivia in the Final. We shall see....

I think all INA fans are all hoping that will happen... :p Ullin-Jenna already defeated Chan Tsz Ka-Wong Wing Ki who are the celebrated duo from HK... :p I don't see any reason they can win it all... As long as they stay focused and keep their eye on the game... :cool:

Unseeded Rischa is locked in a see-saw battle with Lianne Tan, the 2nd seed from Belgium... 18-18... oops 18-21... 1st game to the Belgian... :p

Another tight game: 18-18 in game 2...

19-19, 20-19 for Rischa... 20-20 now... Fight fight!!! But hey, Rischa has always been a fighter... :p Uuuh... 20-21 nowww... Ouch, game! 20-22 in game 2.

So, both INA girls were eliminated today... :(

Oh, and Gifar is not doing too well... 15-21 in game 1...

Sonia lost in a very close match I see... Too bad for Malaysia!
Rischa has just lost to Lianne Tan 2nd game 20-22, so good victory for the Belgian.
Pedro Martins is looking comfortable, Gifar seems to be struggling against the Polish player.

Gifar lost the 3rd game 20-22.... :p Good fight!

arghhhh, so close...

Riyanto won 21-19 in game 3... :o That was too close...

I think all INA fans are all hoping that will happen... :p Ullin-Jenna already defeated Chan Tsz Ka-Wong Wing Ki who are the celebrated duo from HK... :p I don't see any reason they can win it all... As long as they stay focused and keep their eye on the game... :cool:

For what it's worth:

Wed 10/29/2008 5:00 PM

Jacco ARENDS & Selena PIEK [9/16][NED] v
Muhammad ULINNUHA & Aneke Feinya AGUSTINE [INA]

21-11 21-15 0:18

So how does Aneke compare to Jenna?

Anneke is NOT Ullin's regular partner in XD. However, Anissa Wahyuni/Anneke Feinya Agustine are themselves Semi-Finalists at the WJC 2008. And, they are now part of the National Team already, while Jenna is still officially a club player.

BS R16 Riyanto Subagja vs Mathias Borg [5/8] -- not sure how is the Swedish player's standard, hopefully, Riyanto can nail this one for a place in the last 8.

BD R16 Mohd Ulinnuha/Berry Angriawan vs Martin Campbell/Richard Gilmour [2] -- the first seeded pair that Ullin/Berry will have to contend with. I think they can beat the Scots. Caution though....both Ullin and Berry have at least 2 matches and up to 4 matches to play today (if they win the XD matches as well).

So how does Aneke compare to Jenna?

Jenna is waayyy more talented than Anneke... ;)

Anneke is NOT Ullin's regular partner in XD. However, Anissa Wahyuni/Anneke Feinya Agustine are themselves Semi-Finalists at the WJC 2008. And, they are now part of the National Team already, while Jenna is still officially a club player.

Ullin-Anneke only played together for the 1st and last time during that tournament because the national team asked them to... :p

Jenna Gozali got injured before individual WJC started, any subtitution in WD & XD.
Jenna place in XD was replaced by Anneke, in WD replaced by Aurien

While Anissa Wahyuni is from Djarum (I remember her previous partner is Nimas Rani Wijayanti), which club is Anneke Feinya Agustine from?

Sonia lost in a very close match I see... Too bad for Malaysia!


hehe...do u think sikki is the fave to win this year wjc...and ajc?...:p...atleast until now lar....dunno how strong china and korea,ina and danes will be...
for mas....sure no match one...:p

anyone has zulfadhli zulkifli biodata?
his height, etc??;)

anyone has zulfadhli zulkifli biodata?
his height, etc??;)

erm...surely above 180....go have a search in pro player subforum;)

Ullin/Jena progress to the last 8 where they will test the 5/8 seed from France: Alexander Francoise/Audrey Fontaine.

i hope both mas xd pair reach agreement...Whoever won 1st set should win the match..we will have to play 4 match a day...sigh...but no sigh of this...:(

While Anissa Wahyuni is from Djarum (I remember her previous partner is Nimas Rani Wijayanti), which club is Anneke Feinya Agustine from?

Feinya is from Jaya Raya, usual partner was Weny Setiawati. In WJC Pune, Weny paired with Jenna Gozali, in Pelatnas Pratama she was paired with Nimas Rani.

I guest Feinya will play in WJC 2009, the others probably Tiara/Succi, Claudia/Della, Ayu/Gebby, Lidya Praditta/Yayu Rahayu or Aurien Hudiono

i hope ng hui ern win this in 2 set...bcz tee jing yi still nid to play ws

not wise for bjss....should have send 2 more ws and one more wd...if tee jing yi won this match...she might nid to play 6 match a day...

WAH....sikki not on form????faint...should have off form yesterday mah...then sonia can win...hehhe

Okay...Berry/Yayu lost to the 2nd-seed Scot pair Paul Van Rietvelde/Gillian Sloan in rubber-sets :rolleyes: The scores in the first and third sets were kinda disappointing: 8 and 10 :confused:

i surely salute tee jing yi if she can win this one...less than half hour before her xd match...

looking forward for more 3 setter....better for mas...

i wonder if the organiser have any problem???why xd play at the last????faint...

anyway...hope tee jing yi can do well in every event...to proof she is the mas top under 19...

Zulfadli, keep up the good work! I wanna watch you :p
I am going to the hall in approximately 1 hour. I think I will just miss the first MS round, but I will see the second one :)
Men's and Mixed doubles are interesting as well.

in quater final....tat will be a great measurement to let us know...how good zulfadli is...:)...looking forward on this match...

Zulfadli, keep up the good work! I wanna watch you :p
I am going to the hall in approximately 1 hour. I think I will just miss the first MS round, but I will see the second one :)
Men's and Mixed doubles are interesting as well.

then u might see zulfadli vs wong wing ki...make sure u pay 100% attention on tat...:)

erm...surely above 180....go have a search in pro player subforum;)
u sure?
i can't find any information about him there though:rolleyes:

u sure?
i can't find any information about him there though:rolleyes:

i think MOST probably is in last year mj thread...;)

then u might see zulfadli vs wong wing ki...make sure u pay 100% attention on tat...:)

Yeah, you are right. Zulfadli is looking good for the win securing the first game 21-15. I will observe both of them :p

Yeah, you are right. Zulfadli is looking good for the win securing the first game 21-15. I will observe both of them :p
maybe u can try to record some footage of his match with your private cam?;)
and share with us all here:)
or maybe some pics:D

Yeah, you are right. Zulfadli is looking good for the win securing the first game 21-15. I will observe both of them :p

yes...the ind player beat syawal...mean he is quite good...:)

zulfadli 1 a place in wjc and ajc...
by defeating someone tat beat syawal will give him a slot for it...

Interesting fact about sweden's Ellinor Widh [06/'90] (who beat dutch Yik-Man Wong [5/8] earlier this week): a two sport talent: badminton & javelin (2006 national champ in javelin and junior swedish record holder) :cool:.

Old training schedule:
"Träning Höst -Vår 2004-2007

Vecka

Måndag Teknik spjut, styrka
Tisdag Badminton
Onsdag Badminton
Torsdag Teknik spjut, styrka
Fredag Vila
Lördag Match eller vila
Söndag Match eller vila"

[spjut = javelin, vila = rest, stryka = strenght training]

Since I don't see anymore javelin results probably chose badminton. Edit: had a severe injury in 2007 but will be back in javelin this season.

salute tee jing yi...3 matches in less than 3 hours....and she will have 3 more to go...gambateh...i proud of u...^^...go go go...

salute tee jing yi...3 matches in less than 3 hours....and she will have 3 more to go...gambateh...i proud of u...^^...go go go...

No, actually less than 4 hour (3,67 hour exactly)...
but I admit it, she is a good player.

ok...sorry for mistake......

what is ng hui ern and ong boon hui doing????faint...

Yayu Rahayu/Delis Yuliana beat 1st seed Selena Piek/Ilis Tabeling in 3 close sets....

Interesting fact about sweden's Ellinor Widh [06/'90] (who beat dutch Yik-Man Wong [5/8] earlier this week): a two sport talent: badminton & javelin (2006 national champ in javelin and junior swedish record holder) :cool:.
[...]
Since I don't see anymore javelin results probably chose badminton. Edit: had a severe injury in 2007 but will be back in javelin this season.
Just curious:
Did this injury result from badminton or from javelin throwing?

if 1 2 win...u should have win since the 1st set...not now...wasting ur stamina for ms...not something wise...

clever enough this time...concentrate on ur ms now...

looks like goh/teo is awake now...but still better...3 set....can help others to have more time to rest....especialy when the organise make some WISE move to put xd play at the last

goh is good one...not sure abt teo...hope they can reach quater...:)



hehe...they full fill my expectation also...:)

can tee jing yi beat her???

wow...even manage to win a set...

All INA boys/girls progress into QF, except for the mixed pair Berry/Yayu.

is a good fight...tee jing yi will be able to do better when she play sole event in ajc and wjc if she will face this hongkong player there...

well...the show is finally up now...looking forward for zulfadli performance...

BS QF Riyanto Subagja vs Iskandar Zulkarnain Zainudin [2] -- given the MAS player is slightly more experienced, it will be an upset if Riyanto can beat him :rolleyes:

GD QF Yayu Rahayu/Delis Yuliana vs N. Sikki Reddy/Prajakta Sawant [5/8] -- again, I hope the INA pair can beat the Indian pair, but, I will think that the Indian pair will progress.

GD QF Jenna Gozali/Rufika Olivia vs Franziska Burket/Carla Nelte [3/4] -- on the other hand, I think Jenna/Olivia can handle the seeded pair and they should be in a good shape for a place in the Final.

MD QF Jonas Geigenberger/Andreas Heinz [5/8] vs Mohd Ulinnuha/Berry Angriawan -- ditto for Ullin/Berry.

XD QF Mohd Ulinnuha/Jenna Gozali vs Aleandre Francoise/Audrey Fontaine -- now, this match is arranged to be held immediately after the MD match finishes, so, there's a possibility that Ullin will be tired :rolleyes: But, I am still hoping Ullin/Jenna can win this one.

BS QF Riyanto Subagja vs Iskandar Zulkarnain Zainudin [2] -- given the MAS player is slightly more experienced, it will be an upset if Riyanto can beat him :rolleyes:
.

not an upset badmania...iskandar is playing his 4th matches today....so....subagja can win...:)

Riyanto has taken the first set 21-17.

Riyanto has taken the first set 21-17.

i would be supprise if iskandar win this one...as he still have 2 matches to go...:(

i would be supprise if iskandar win this one...as he still have 2 matches to go...:(

no, iskandar only have one match to go which is XD..
well, i think iskandar will win this ms..

no, iskandar only have one match to go which is XD..
well, i think iskandar will win this ms..

ops...looks like i am wrong again...sorry...:)

With a 11-4 lead in the rubber-set, Iskandar should take this one.

Meanwhile, Yayu/Delis progress to SF.

Just curious:
Did this injury result from badminton or from javelin throwing?

Doesn't say. "...en skada i höger axel" injury to the right shoulder. My guess would be from throwing.
Let's see what I can find now that I have the correct spelling Ellinor with double L instead of a single one as used on tournamentsoftware.

ops...looks like i am wrong again...sorry...:)

It's okay... maybe u just too tired because it's already too late... :)
Riyanto need miracle to win this one...

As expected, the best result for Riyanto Subagja's first int tourney is a QF finish. Not bad for a start.

At last, Jenna/Olivia make it to the SF after a tight battle with the GER pair that lasted 3 sets. It was an easy job in the first set as the INA pair took it 21-12. However, the GER pair saved 1 match point in the second set and ending up taking that set 22-20, which forced the rubber-set. Jenna/Olivia were also leading comfortably 15-8, but were pegged back to 18-17. The INA youngsters eventually win it 21-17. Their next opponent will be a tough one: Sonia Cheah Su Ya/Tee Jing Yi.

So, 2 INA GD pairs in the SF, with still a chance to make it an all-INA Final tomorrow.

well...bjss should send more than they have send here...tee jing yi need to play her 6th matched today...:mad:...i hope she still have energy for tomorow match...:crying:...

hope iskandar/tjy can win their 5th and 6th matches respectively...:)...gambateh...

I got it mixed up:
GD SF Yayu Rahayu/Delis Yuliana vs Sonia Cheah Su Ya/Tee Jing Yi
GD SF Jenna Gozali/Rufika Olivia vs Anastasia Chervyvakova/Romina Gabdullina [2]

Both will be tough matches, but, I hope the INA girls will create an all-INA FINAL tomorow!

They should not arrange the XD as the last matches :mad:

As soon as Ullin finishes his BD match (should be in around 10 mins), he has another XD match to play almost immediately.

It's okay... maybe u just too tired because it's already too late... :)
Riyanto need miracle to win this one...

hehe...thanks...:)...hehe...anyway...
i still think tat bjss do stupid decision...for example...this few days...tee jing yi already play more than 10 matches...and still have 2 or 3 to go...:mad:...

they should have send 2 more ws,1 more wd and 1 more md...so single player wont have to play in double and mixed double...:mad:
iskandar also playing his 10++ matches...:mad:...

They should not arrange the XD as the last matches :mad:

As soon as Ullin finishes his BD match (should be in around 10 mins), he has another XD match to play almost immediately.

totally agree...they should have put xd quater final right after the 1/16 is finish...bcz 1/16 of xd is the 1st to finish...:mad:

Ullin/Berry finish their match in straight-sets as expected.

BD SF Mohd Ullinuha/Berry Angriawan vs Jacco Arends/Jelle Maas [3/4] -- I think Ullin/Berry will progress to an expected showdown against Chooi Kah Ming/Pang Zheng Lin in the Final.

Ullin/Berry finish their match in straight-sets as expected.

BD SF Mohd Ullinuha/Berry Angriawan vs Jacco Arends/Jelle Maas [3/4] -- I think Ullin/Berry will progress to an expected showdown against Chooi Kah Ming/Pang Zheng Lin in the Final.

ya...i hope so...but they are not the mas top md u-19(in my note book...but bjss didnt think so...:crying:)...:(...i wonder why bjss didnt send ow yew han/yew hong kheng...:mad:...

They should not arrange the XD as the last matches :mad:

As soon as Ullin finishes his BD match (should be in around 10 mins), he has another XD match to play almost immediately.

:p Looks like the schedule has changed (as expected).

Just curious:
Did this injury result from badminton or from javelin throwing?

Doesn't say. "...en skada i höger axel" injury to the right shoulder. My guess would be from throwing.
Let's see what I can find now that I have the correct spelling Ellinor with double L instead of a single one as used on tournamentsoftware.

Not much extra: surgery in january 2008 and now the swedish U19 champ in singles and doubles (since a few weeks ago). Usually the swedes disappear after juniors so will be interesting to follow. Also saw some numbers that looked like triple jump distances and if that was correct she's somewhere in the 14 meter range already and that was from before the injury. Last time I went to our national championships the senior men won with a distance in the 14's towards 15 :D. Which says more about our male triple jumpers as that is a pitiful distance for a top male triplejumper.

Hmm freaky german xd giving their big lead up again (I hope). And indeed it's all square again.

finally...u rise up to my expect as mas top ws under 19...i really salute u...

u have played 11 matches...have have two more to go...if win...another 2...salute...hope u have the endurance for next week german junior...

as for iskandar...u is the unexpected one...hehe...already played 12 matches...another 2..and if win..another 2...this will made u as the player played most matches in dutch open...great...but hope u concentrate in ms in ajc and wjc...

Ullin-Jenna have not dropped a single game en route semis... In the process they defeated the 3-4th seed and the 5-8th seed...

Ullin-Berry also have not dropped a game in BD this week... including defeating the 2nd seed and the 5-8th seed in straight sets...

See...! The Dutch Junior organizers should give more respect to INA's #1 BD and #1 XD [in 2008] next time... :p

I don't blame them for not seeding Jenna-Oliv and Delis-Yayu since they are not top ranked INA GD... Nor do I blame them for not seeding Ayu, Rischa, Gifar, and Riyanto... Since these singles players are not among INA's best... But to not seed Ullin-Berry and Ullin-Jenna is a mistake... :p

before the tournament start...i expect a finalist from md and a semis for wd...looks like we have more in semis...hopefully more than 1 finalist...gambateh...

As expected, the best result for Riyanto Subagja's first int tourney is a QF finish. Not bad for a start.

I think this is Riyanto's first international 19&Under Tournament in Europe... He did participate in the Asian Under-16 tournament in Brunei last year [he was a finalist or something]... As well as the 2008 Laos Future Series [where he reached the QF too]...

I got it mixed up:
GD SF Yayu Rahayu/Delis Yuliana vs Sonia Cheah Su Ya/Tee Jing Yi
GD SF Jenna Gozali/Rufika Olivia vs Anastasia Chervyvakova/Romina Gabdullina [2]

Both will be tough matches, but, I hope the INA girls will create an all-INA FINAL tomorow!

I hope you're going to be right, badMania... I'm not that optimistic about both INA pair's chances... :o I think they both have a 49% chance of winning... :o

Ullin/Berry finish their match in straight-sets as expected.

BD SF Mohd Ullinuha/Berry Angriawan vs Jacco Arends/Jelle Maas [3/4] -- I think Ullin/Berry will progress to an expected showdown against Chooi Kah Ming/Pang Zheng Lin in the Final.

This one, I agree! :cool: INA vs MAS in the finals... ;) Classic ASEAN neighborhood rivalry... :cool:

Ullin-Jenna have not dropped a single game en route semis... In the process they defeated the 3-4th seed and the 5-8th seed...

Ullin-Berry also have not dropped a game in BD this week... including defeating the 2nd seed and the 5-8th seed in straight sets...


The BD and XD are undoubtedly INA's best chances for titles today! As for the GD prediction, I know they will face tough matches (esp against more experienced MAS opponents like Tee Jing Yi). So, those predictions are merely my hopes :D

Last SF prediction:
XD SF Jacco Arends/Selene Piek [1] vs Mohd Ullinuha/Jenna Gozali -- another tough match against the top seed and I hope Ullin/Jenna can deliver! I think Krisna will also agree to my prediction :p As for the possible opponent in the Final, it has to be yet another MAS pair Iskandar Zulkarnain Zainuddin/Tee Jing Yee.

Krisna is right about Riyanto Subagja. I have looked up older posts and indeed I had written about Riyanto back in April 2008 :o Completely forgotten about him before the Tarakan Open this year...my bad :o Riyanto lost to Phuong Nam-Duong in the Laos Futures 2008 QF.

Isn't it nice to see that the juniors in Europe are providing some good competition to those from Asia and many are in the semi finals today. Of the 20 semi finalists, 9 are from Europe and they are represented in all 5 events.

However, notable absentees from Europe are Denmark and from Asia: China, South Korea and Japan.

Still this is a good sign that badminton continues to thrive with the younger generation in Europe. :)

Still this is a good sign that badminton continues to thrive with the younger generation in Europe. :)

Yeah! And some of the semifinalists came from previously inactive badminton countries like Portugal and Ireland... :eek: :cool: :D Good good... we need those countries' votes to keep badminton in the Olympics... :cool:

hmm, im quite curious though.
on the tournamentsoftware website, there just state that only semi final matches.
when will the final begin?

hmm, im quite curious though.
on the tournamentsoftware website, there just state that only semi final matches.
when will the final begin?

Later on today... according to the Dutch Open official website.

Later on today... according to the Dutch Open official website.
oh, i see.
im eager to wait and see what will be the outcome when the mas 1st seed md pair vs ina junior pair in the most probably final.;)
from what i see their stats of past matches in this tournament,the mas pairs had beaten all their opponent in an average of less than 20 mins i think..:eek:
next kkk/tbh in making perhaps?:cool:

oh, i see.
im eager to wait and see what will be the outcome when the mas 1st seed md pair vs ina junior pair in the most probably final.;)
from what i see their stats of past matches in this tournament,the mas pairs had beaten all their opponent in an average of less than 20 mins i think..:eek:
next kkk/tbh in making perhaps?:cool:

erm...no no no...they are not...ow/yew is better ler...:(...but they didnt enter this tournament...hmm...maybe bcz this year spm....:crying:

oh, i see.
im eager to wait and see what will be the outcome when the mas 1st seed md pair vs ina junior pair in the most probably final.;)
from what i see their stats of past matches in this tournament,the mas pairs had beaten all their opponent in an average of less than 20 mins i think..:eek:
next kkk/tbh in making perhaps?:cool:

I think the INA MD pair also defeated their opponents in around 20 minutes. All in straight sets... :cool:

oh, i see.
im eager to wait and see what will be the outcome when the mas 1st seed md pair vs ina junior pair in the most probably final.;)
from what i see their stats of past matches in this tournament,the mas pairs had beaten all their opponent in an average of less than 20 mins i think..:eek:
next kkk/tbh in making perhaps?:cool:

I think the INA MD pair also defeated their opponents in around 20 minutes. All in straight sets... :cool:

ok ok...no need argue...we will know the answer...soon...today...:)...
well...i think as krisna+badmania so confident...this year IJ squad should be the strongest in this few years...base on this...i think ina will have the upper hand...:)

romina from russia is another player to watch...able to defeat sikki in ws...and then defeat ina wd...nice to have such a good young talent from russia

pang/chooi not looking good...hehe...so...we might not able to see mas vs ina...hehe

great...russia romina is surely in my note book from now on...

krisna...can i ask something...does IJ ever play in more than 1 department????if no...why?

wondering if sonia will accept another defeat in wd???

No problem for Ullin/Berry as they march on to the Final after another straight-set victory over the 3/4th seed.

looks like the surprise journey of sonia/tee in wd come to an end...

our girls fighting spirit is sure better than the boys

good enough if we have 15 points in 3 set of wd...

Okay....Yayu/Delis progress to the Final too...after a tiring rubber-set victory over the MAS pair. They will meet the RUS pair that beat their counterpart just now.

BD F Sylvain Grosjean/Sam Magee vs Mohd Ullinuha/Berry Angriawan -- I think Ullin/Berry will take this one.

GD F Yayu Rahayu/Delis Yuliana vs Anastasia Chervyakova/Romina Gabdullina [2] -- it will take a much harder effort from Yayu/Delis if they are to win this one, considering the second-seeded RUS pair beat Jenna/Olivia in straight-sets :o We shall see!

well done for tee jing yi/sonia...one step further than my pre-tournament prediction+expectation...u can have some good rest now...tjy...all the best in xd later...for sonia..hope u can go further in german...for chooi/pang...i will say...well...both of u will never be mas top md under 19 in my note book....hehe...no fighting spirit at all...faint...hehe...ina will bag this title for sure...hehe

can iskandar reach final???...hehe...he already reach my expectation to reach semis...hehe

i think the only correct seeded in this event will be ms so far....and maybe xd...

iskandar should finish this as fast as he can...he still have 2 more matches to go(ms final and xd semis..)

iskandar better let go the xd.........to concentrate in MS final...

anyone have any detail abt pedro martins from portugal???...:D

this post in on 12/2/09...during euro team championship....he remain unbeaten there...

now...we saw how good he is...:)...glad to have such talent from portugal...:D....
see how much iskandar can score from him...:)

iskandar better let go the xd.........to concentrate in MS final...

he already played 12 matches...:)...have 2 more to go...why should he let go???he is not alone in xd...he need to care about tee jing yi feling...tee jing yi fight so hard to reach here...also 12 matches...does this fair enough to her???:rolleyes:...
unless the coach say so....:rolleyes:...anyway...personaly i think both iskandar and tee jing yi will fight for the place in final...they have the spirit...:)

Ullin/Jenna should take this one in straight-sets.

now can tee/iskandar finish in straight set????
coach say...in junior....stamina is a big factor...but in senior level different...glad to see they can play so many matches in few days...and still have some good result...gambateh

RUSSIA have 3 finalist....securing ws title....same amount with ina player...great acheivement...
another slot of ms final is from portugal....glad to see he defeated wong wk...hope iskandar wont lose too badly to him...

No sweat for Ullin/Jenna as they beat the top-seed comfortably 21-15, 21-18. Up next in the Final should be the MAS pair.

XD F Mohd Ullinuha/Jenna Gozali vs Iskandar Zulkarnain Zainuddin/Tee Jing Yi -- I think Ullin/Jenna have the slight edge, esp as Iskandar will be involved in a potentially tight BS Final later on.

3 Finals for the Djarum boys/girls....how many titles can they win later?

3 Finals for the Djarum boys/girls....how many titles can they win later?

3....:)....hehe....

wow... I'm really impressed with M.ulinuha..
He won 10/10 match and 20/20 sets he have played...
I hope he can win MD and XD in final with perfect record... ^^
Hope INA can bring 3 titles here...

MY Prediction :
MS : Mas
WS : Russia (undoubtedly)
MD : INA
WD : maybe INA, maybe Russia... but I hope INA (dunno coz russia looks strong)
XD : INA

btw, what time will final be??
tournament software did not show anything...

MY Prediction :
MS : Mas



thanks...but...martin pedro remain unbeaten in the euro team championship...and show his strenght when face wwk...:(...

hope iskandar will atleast win a set from the top seed in his 14th match...:o

btw, what time will final be??
tournament software did not show anything...

erm...i didnt have any idea also...:(

Finals wil start at 13.00 hr, abt 1 hr from now

thanks...but...martin pedro remain unbeaten in the euro team championship...and show his strenght when face wwk...:(...

hope iskandar will atleast win a set from the top seed in his 14th match...:o

yeah, but u have to be confident with your own men...
I know it's look hard, moreover iskandar will play 4 match today..

but let's hope the best for our country...


yesterday, it was written that final will be at 1 PM.
but today that '1 PM' has disappeared...

Finals wil start at 13.00 hr, abt 1 hr from now

ok.. thank you sandy...
now, I am going to eat first..:p:p

The WD Final has already started with the Russian pair in control right now, leading 22-20, 18-13 :mad:

As I predicted, the Russian pair Anastasia Chervykova/Romina Gabdullina is just too strong for Yayu/Delis as the INA pair lost in 2 tight-sets 20-22, 18-21.

is it already started??
why in my screen it still semifinals???

The BD Final is being played now with Ullin/Berry facing Grosjean/Magee. Scores are still tight in the early stage.

6 straight pts at 5-5 make it 11-5 for Ullin/Berry.

Ullin/Berry take the first set 21-18. It turns out to be a close scoreline at the end....

huh... my livescore is stuck...
please anyone update the score...
thanks..

haiya, mas 1st seed md pair lost in the semi final:(

Yet again, 5 straight pts at 6-6 make it 11-6 at the break for Ullin/Break in the second set.

huh... my livescore is stuck...
please anyone update the score...
thanks..
ina pair won 1st set 21-18 now 2nd set leading 9-6;)

thank you for updating the score...
I wonder why tournament software did not update the match screen??
There, it still semifinal...
I hope INA will win MD..

The scores are tied at 16-16, despite Ullin/Berry having a 6 pts lead at 16-10 just now.

9 straight pts for Grosjean/Magee at 10-16 to make it 19-16 now.
An injury perhaps???

Lots of unforced errors committed by both pairs as the scores are tied at 19-19.

Phew...Mohd Ullinuha/Berry Angriawan eventually seal the match in straight-sets 21-18, 21-19. They had comfortable leads in both sets, only to be pegged back....esp in the second set when they nearly lost it at 16-19. Luckily, they won the last 5 pts of the match to take home the title!

thank goodness...
at least INA will bring 1 title...

so ulinuha still haven't drop a single set...
so far so good... I hope this will continue to XD...

I think here is lot more interesting than German Open which has almost turned into Chinese Own Tournament...

This is a definitely morale-boosting win for Ullin/Berry in preparation for the WJC this year. They beat the second-seed, two 3/4 seeds, and one 5/8 seed en route to the title.

Next week will be a tougher tourney for the INA youngsters at the Yonex German Junior 2009, despite being seeded 3/4. They should meet a MAS pair (Mohd Syawal Mohd Ismail/Iskandar Zulkarnain Zainuddin) in R16, followed by a KOR pair (Choi Seung Il/Jun Yong Hun, seeded 5/8) in the QF.

If they can clear the QF, potential opponents in the SF include the top-seed Chooi Kah Ming/Pang Zheng Lin or another KOR pair Ha Young Woong/Kim Min Ki or a DEN pair (Niclas Noehr/Mads Pedersen, seeded 5/8 also).

Now, if they go all the way to the Final yet again, I believe the second-seed Choi Young Woo/Kang Ji Wook or the 5/8 seed Goh Sze Onn/Teo Ee Yi, and some other pairs they have beaten this week will await them in the Final. It will be another interesting week.

Phew...Mohd Ullinuha/Berry Angriawan eventually seal the match in straight-sets 21-18, 21-19. They had comfortable leads in both sets, only to be pegged back....esp in the second set when they nearly lost it at 16-19. Luckily, they won the last 5 pts of the match to take home the title!

GREAT!!! :D See...!!! Dear Dutch Junior organizers, next time don't underestimate INA #1 ranked MD [under 19]! :cool: Seed them next time. Any #1 ranked MD from a badminton powerhouse like INA, KOR, MAS, CHN deserve to be seeded...

erm...can anyone kindly post all the final result here???i just come back....and just saw mas won ms...how about others????my ts didnt show any finals result...thanks...

krisna...can i ask something...does IJ ever play in more than 1 department????if no...why?

IJ = INA Juniors?

Well... until age 15, they usually play both doubles and singles. But... at around 16, the coaches will 'direct' the kid to be in either a doubles player [probably playing XD too] or a singles player... :cool: I think among the badminton powerhouses, INA and KOR seperated their doubles and singles training camp...

IJ = INA Juniors?

Well... until age 15, they usually play both doubles and singles. But... at around 16, the coaches will 'direct' the kid to be in either a doubles player [probably playing XD too] or a singles player... :cool: I think among the badminton powerhouses, INA and KOR seperated their doubles and singles training camp...
i see...erm...btw...can u tell me the finals result before ms???i just arive home...and ts didnt show the finals result...thanks...:)

its ok now..i know where to find the finals result...

Results:

MS Final:
Pedro Martins [1][POR] vs Iskandar Zulkarnian Zainuddin [2][MAS]
21-9, 15-21 & 17-21

MD Final:
Sylvian Grosjean & Sam Magee [3/4][FRA/IRE]
vs
Berry Angriawan & Muhammad Ulinuha [INA]
18-21 & 19-21

WS Final:
Natalia Perminova [1][RUS] vs Romina Gabdullina [3/4][RUS]
17-21 & 15-21

WD Final:
Yayu Rahayu & Delis Yuliana [INA]
vs
Anastasia Chervyakova & Romina Gabdullina [2][RUS]
20-22 & 18-21

XD Final:
Muhammad Ulinuha & Jenna Gozali [INA]
vs
Iskandar Zulkarnian Zainuddin & Jing Yi Tee [MAS]

Results:

MS Final:
Pedro Martins [1][POR] vs Iskandar Zulkarnian Zainuddin [2][MAS]
21-9, 15-21 & 17-21

MD Final:
Sylvian Grosjean & Sam Magee [3/4][FRA/IRE]
vs
Berry Angriawan & Muhammad Ulinuha [INA]
18-21 & 19-21

WS Final:
Natalia Perminova [1][RUS] vs Romina Gabdullina [3/4][RUS]
17-21 & 15-21

WD Final:
Yayu Rahayu & Delis Yuliana [INA]
vs
Anastasia Chervyakova & Romina Gabdullina [2][RUS]
20-22 & 18-21

XD Final:
Muhammad Ulinuha & Jenna Gozali [INA]
vs
Iskandar Zulkarnian Zainuddin & Jing Yi Tee [MAS]

thanks....now...is either mas or ina will become the co-winner with russia in dutch...two titles each...
i will say ina...:)

thanks....now...is either mas or ina will become the co-winner with russia in dutch...two titles each...
i will say ina...:)

and i will say mas ^_^

Ullin/Jenna lost the first set 14-21. Hmm.....

and i will say mas ^_^

cant agree....ina will win in 3....iskandar i playing his 15th matches...tee is playing her 14th matches...;)

congratz to russia for making the big progress in their baddy sport by bagged 2 titles here...

Look's like Ullin/Jenna will lose in the rubber-set, despite winning the second-set 21-13. Unless, there's a quick recovery.

Look's like Ullin/Jenna will lose in the rubber-set, despite winning the second-set 21-13. Unless, there's a quick recovery.

relax...they will win...

Okay...the final stage of the match...with scores being tied at 14-14.

Finally, the INA pair leads 16-15 in the rubber-set, only to be tied again at 16-16.

13-13 to 17-17 now. Can any pair make the breakthrough for the last 4 pts?