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Destricto_Ense
03-06-2009, 01:32 PM
Well Lin Dan's form wasn't anything amazing from what I saw against Anup Shridar, so don't go thinking he's insurmountable.

cooler
03-06-2009, 01:34 PM
I think Taufik has answered the title of this thread.. he was superb against Gade. I would still fancy Lin Dan over Taufik but Hidayat has shown his commitment and it is possible that he will improve even further.

Maybe Indra was right :Pwhen one guesses 10000000000000000000000000 times, having 1 correct is just statiscal luck:p

madbad
03-06-2009, 01:36 PM
Well Lin Dan's form wasn't anything amazing from what I saw against Anup Shridar, so don't go thinking he's insurmountable.

You could say the same thing about TH prior to his match with PG

Dr. Evil
03-06-2009, 01:39 PM
Actually I feel that Taufik may have also been holding back in his match against Peter. Did anyone notice his speed suddenly go up towards the last leg of game 2. Don't know if it is because he lack stamina to maintain such speed or just don't want to reveal too much to future opponent, ala LCW and Lindan.

Destricto_Ense
03-06-2009, 01:39 PM
Yes, I know, but fickle form is something strongly associated with Taufik whereas it's barely ever mentioned in relation to Lin Dan as he's more of a robotic player.

jutawin
03-06-2009, 01:40 PM
Taufik won today.. his journey will continue..

madbad
03-06-2009, 01:44 PM
I see the TH v LCW match as one where there can be many points strung together by one player. There will be be some crazy point swings. Both players have that capability

jutawin
03-06-2009, 01:47 PM
I see the TH v LCW match as one where there can be many points strung together by one player. There will be be some crazy point swings. Both players have that capability
That's what we are waiting for..

cooler
03-06-2009, 01:53 PM
That's what we are waiting for..yup, both are hungry, missing the AE title...
fight fight fight...for the privilage to play LD:p

madbad
03-06-2009, 01:55 PM
yup, both are hungry, missing the AE title...

And one of them will have the chance to secure it

whp90
03-06-2009, 01:57 PM
Bugger.... I slept very well and miss Taufik game with PG.... :(
Any one know to download the match ????
BTW: I am very happy... he won again... :)

Destricto_Ense
03-06-2009, 01:59 PM
Hmm. Someone might have recorded it.. anyway, check planetbadminton.tv later, as they're sure to have highlights and an interview with the two players.

koo_fan
03-06-2009, 02:00 PM
ANd this thread continues........
Bravo taufik!

Destricto_Ense
03-06-2009, 02:19 PM
Let's see how LCW does now, should give us an indication how their match tomorrow will be.

ye333
03-06-2009, 02:36 PM
LCW's opponent is too weak to force out LCW's true form...


Let's see how LCW does now, should give us an indication how their match tomorrow will be.

madbad
03-06-2009, 02:39 PM
LCW's opponent is too weak to force out LCW's true form...

But it's crucial for LCW to find his true form ahead of his encounter with TH

ye333
03-06-2009, 02:40 PM
You cannot expect the ideal situation.

I guess LCW would prefer the current situation than meeting SDK in QF. ;)


But it's crucial for LCW to find his true form ahead of his encounter with TH

Destricto_Ense
03-06-2009, 02:41 PM
Well he's certainly showing his ability to string piles of points together..

madbad
03-06-2009, 02:46 PM
You cannot expect the ideal situation.

I guess LCW would prefer the current situation than meeting SDK in QF. ;)

SDK would have been easy meat for LCW with his injury anyway.

ye333
03-06-2009, 03:07 PM
I mean a normal SDK of course...


SDK would have been easy meat for LCW with his injury anyway.

Dr. Evil
03-06-2009, 03:09 PM
Doesn't matter what LCW true form is cause usually their match will go like this. Taufik do tight net shot, LCW lift, Taufik smash, then either

1) clear winner
2) LCW defended and taufik to his deceptive drop to the net or drive to backhand.

Ultimately, you can really get into an offense against Taufik.

Lets see if Misbun and LCW can come up with some strategy to neutralize taufik's super tight net shot.

Destricto_Ense
03-06-2009, 03:12 PM
Actually, one great improvement I noticed in Taufik is that he seemed more aware this time around when his opponent was close to the net and he was returning a net shot. Usually Taufik would always return a net shot with a net shot, even if his opponent was standing directly in front of him, but today he used more attacking clears. Nice to see that he has noticed and maybe even fixed this weakness.

ctjcad
03-06-2009, 03:49 PM
..did everyone survive TH's QF match-up with Gade??..;)

Anyway, for those wondering where in the world are all those discussions, debates, ramblings about the "prestige" of AE, WC and Olympics, here are a few threads to scroll over. Btw, i hardly noticed any mention of the Asian Games or the Commonwealth Games as one of the top tourneys in baddy. Have fun reading..:)

http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24926
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53101
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41536
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2807
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2708

Would you consider a tournament "prestigious" without the presence of Gade, T. Rasmussen and all the other European/Commonwealth players participating?
...

Tine Rasmussen doesn't play Mens Singles I'm afraid :).
...
:p..oopsy, didn't realize i had put in Gade as part of the Commonwealth Games competitors, eventhough Denmark is not even part of the Commonwealth nations.:p I'd say LCW has the best of both worlds, as he can play in both the AG and Commonwealth Games.;)

Actually, one great improvement I noticed in Taufik is that he seemed more aware this time around when his opponent was close to the net and he was returning a net shot. Usually Taufik would always return a net shot with a net shot, even if his opponent was standing directly in front of him, but today he used more attacking clears. Nice to see that he has noticed and maybe even fixed this weakness.
..IMO, that's mostly him adjusting his gameplay, not so much fixing his weakness. IMO, his weakness is his stamina/fitness or lack of it.;)

Tomorrow should be one cracker of a match up between him vs. LCW. BC should be filled to the max. Hopefully the match goes the distance and may the last man standing, advance.:p

cooler
03-06-2009, 04:02 PM
..did everyone survive TH's QF match-up with Gade??..;)

Anyway, for those wondering where in the world are all those discussions, debates, ramblings about the "prestige" of AE, WC and Olympics, here are a few threads to scroll over. Btw, i hardly noticed any mention of the Asian Games or the Commonwealth Games as one of the top tourneys in baddy. Have fun reading..:)

http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24926
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53101
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41536
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2807
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2708

:pctjcad likes homework:eek:

Wong8Egg
03-06-2009, 04:18 PM
Doesn't matter what LCW true form is cause usually their match will go like this. Taufik do tight net shot, LCW lift, Taufik smash, then either

1) clear winner
2) LCW defended and taufik to his deceptive drop to the net or drive to backhand.

Ultimately, you can really get into an offense against Taufik.

Lets see if Misbun and LCW can come up with some strategy to neutralize taufik's super tight net shot.

That's to defend until Taufik runs out of stamina. :p

Wong8Egg
03-06-2009, 04:20 PM
Actually, one great improvement I noticed in Taufik is that he seemed more aware this time around when his opponent was close to the net and he was returning a net shot. Usually Taufik would always return a net shot with a net shot, even if his opponent was standing directly in front of him, but today he used more attacking clears. Nice to see that he has noticed and maybe even fixed this weakness.

A tight net return is actually his strength imo. And I think he mentioned he is not in his best from on the past 2 post game interviews he conducted. :(

Anyways, all the best to TH.

cooler
03-06-2009, 04:32 PM
A tight net return is actually his strength imo. And I think he mentioned he is not in his best from on the past 2 post game interviews he conducted. :(

Anyways, all the best to TH.good netting is somewhat dependent on good or bad day. Some mentioned that Pater didn't have a good netting day today

madbad
03-06-2009, 04:36 PM
good netting is somewhat dependent on good or bad day. Some mentioned that Pater didn't have a good netting day today

Gillian Clark was actually very quick to pick up on that

phaarix
03-06-2009, 04:37 PM
:p..oopsy, didn't realize i had put in Gade as part of the Commonwealth Games competitors, eventhough Denmark is not even part of the Commonwealth nations.:p I'd say LCW has the best of both worlds, as he can play in both the AG and Commonwealth Games.;)

I didn't notice you had either :D. Lee Chong Wei sure has a lot of chances for medals!

I only just realised how close the Asian Games actually is... it seems like it wasn't that long ago. With the Asian Games so close, it would seem Lin Dan has a very big chance at finally winning it (even if it's not so prestigious ;)).

madbad
03-06-2009, 04:39 PM
I didn't notice you had either :D. Lee Chong Wei sure has a lot of chances for medals!

I only just realised how close the Asian Games actually is... it seems like it wasn't that long ago. With the Asian Games so close, it would seem Lin Dan has a very big chance at finally winning it (even if it's not so prestigious ;)).

Well, for China it will be prestigious since they are hosting it

Destricto_Ense
03-06-2009, 04:41 PM
A tight net return is actually his strength imo. And I think he mentioned he is not in his best from on the past 2 post game interviews he conducted. :(

Anyways, all the best to TH.
Yes, he is very skilled at net shots, but he has a propensity for returning shots right to his opponent at the net, and if they're even a tiny bit too high then -bam- point to the other player. His net tumbles today were absolutely incredible though; so many of Taufik's shot hit the tape.

phaarix
03-06-2009, 04:46 PM
Well, for China it will be prestigious since they are hosting it

Oh! I didn't realise. In that case it will be very important indeed!

badMania
03-06-2009, 04:50 PM
Ok...one down...two to go for Taufik Hidayat. LCW and then LD.

modious
03-06-2009, 05:00 PM
Good luck to Taufik.

I hope he's able to at least win the AE title once before he retires. :)

It's a uphill battle from now on...... LCW and LD (probably) stands in his way.

ctjcad
03-06-2009, 05:32 PM
Well, for China it will be prestigious since they are hosting it

Oh! I didn't realise. In that case it will be very important indeed!
$$$http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/64.gifhttp://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/64.gifhttp://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/64.gif$$$

ctjcad likes homework:eek:
..better to point those interested in the right thread(s) and save this thread....;)

madbad
03-06-2009, 05:37 PM
At this point, I don't really care who wins the AE. We have got to the stage where only the big boys play and that's what we want to see. My question is how will the winner of the LCW/TH match prepare for the very impressive LD in the final. Their coaches have a lot of prep work to do.

ctjcad
03-06-2009, 05:43 PM
..the loser between TH vs. LCW will say to the winner : Hope you will sleep tight tonight!...;)

cooler
03-06-2009, 05:45 PM
..the winner between TH vs. LCW will say : Hope you will sleep tight tonight!...;)instead of sayiing good nite, just say.. good netting;)

yen_saw
03-06-2009, 05:49 PM
Neither TH nor LCW has won AE they will play their heart out can't wait for it. I would still pick LCW in 3 sets :)

cooler
03-06-2009, 05:50 PM
Neither TH nor LCW has won AE they will play their heart out can't wait for it. I would still pick LCW in 3 sets :)it will be interesting to see what pawers would do on this one;)

badadum
03-06-2009, 05:51 PM
Hmmm...... I'll say LCW in 3...
ok...I'm surely not gonna survive INA fans wrath now... ;)

madbad
03-06-2009, 05:54 PM
Neither TH nor LCW has won AE they will play their heart out can't wait for it. I would still pick LCW in 3 sets :)

The LCW game was on on the TV court so I did not get to judge his form. Of course he had an easier match against an inferior opponent. Nevertheless the scoreline suggests he is ramping it up.

I did see TH against PG and I think TH is serious about taking the title. He had Gade on his toes the whole match and true to the TH style, was totally unpredictable. Even at this stage of his career, TH can be a legit threat on his day.

I reckon whoever is even slightly off tomorrow will be the loser.

Destricto_Ense
03-06-2009, 05:54 PM
I think it will depend on who takes the first set. When Taufik is not fully concentrating then he loses the first set, like in the first two rounds, but today he was 100% on top of his game and got the first and second. In the 1st and 2nd round his opponent wasn't that good, so he got away with not playing to the full extent of his ability, but LCW will not let that happen.

Here's TH and PG's post-match interviews - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrcoFtHEtz8&eurl=http://planetbadminton.tv/Default.aspx?vid=290
I commend Taufik for speaking English in his interviews, even if he generally just repeats the question :P

phaarix
03-06-2009, 05:57 PM
Actually I was surprised at how many people PAWed Taufik for his QF. I thought Peter Gade would be a sure favourite to be honest :o. What with Taufik being taken to 3 by Andrew Smith (who admittedly has improved)... I think I might avoid PAWing on LCW/TH match if I can...

badadum
03-06-2009, 05:58 PM
Actually I was surprised at how many people PAWed Taufik for his QF. I thought Peter Gade would be a sure favourite to be honest :o. What with Taufik being taken to 3 by Andrew Smith (who admittedly has improved)... I think I might avoid PAWing on LCW/TH match if I can...

PAW is at 8 -13..... looks like LCW is favored 3:2....

phaarix
03-06-2009, 06:00 PM
PAW is at 8 -13..... looks like LCW is favored 3:2....

Hmmm... it will be a tough one. Have to think hard ;).

indra
03-06-2009, 06:12 PM
Ho...ho...ho.....I am coming:D

Now you get excited, hah!!! But remember you HAVE NOT seen his real techniques intended to win AE. TH still saves them for his "rainy day".

LCW is the next victim....better watch out.

Round 32 3 sets, opponent unknown
Round 16 3 sets, opponent average
QF 2 sets, opponent excellent
What a magic!!!

LYB is now getting nervous and pale!!!!

LYB: Oh...no...TH is still alive
LD: Coach, what shuld I do?
Chen Jin: No worry brother, you can go to Final and I will give you my SF, cause I am not sure if I can defeat TH his time. You'd better face TH this time,...I am scared.
LYB: Good on you CJ
LD: Thanks..CJ

phaarix
03-06-2009, 06:19 PM
Ho...ho...ho.....I am coming:D

Now you get excited, hah!!! But remember you HAVE NOT seen his real techniques intended to win AE. TH still saves them for his "rainy day".

LCW is the next victim....better watch out.

Round 32 3 sets, opponent unknown
Round 16 3 sets, opponent average
QF 2 sets, opponent excellent
What a magic!!!

LYB is now getting nervous and pale!!!!

LYB: Oh...no...TH is still alive
LD: Coach, what shuld I do?
Chen Jin: No worry brother, you can go to Final and I will give you my SF, cause I am not sure if I can defeat TH his time. You'd better face TH this time,...I am scared.
LYB: Good on you CJ
LD: Thanks..CJ

Haha I'm looking forward to it.

"opponent unknown"?? That's not very nice!

Destricto_Ense
03-06-2009, 06:20 PM
Hahaha, indra you are a credit to this forum. CJ is going to gift his match to LD anyway, because it looks like his knees are hurting. LD will annihilate him.

madbad
03-06-2009, 06:25 PM
Ho...ho...ho.....I am coming:D

Now you get excited, hah!!! But remember you HAVE NOT seen his real techniques intended to win AE. TH still saves them for his "rainy day".

LCW is the next victim....better watch out.

Round 32 3 sets, opponent unknown
Round 16 3 sets, opponent average
QF 2 sets, opponent excellent
What a magic!!!

LYB is now getting nervous and pale!!!!

LYB: Oh...no...TH is still alive
LD: Coach, what shuld I do?
Chen Jin: No worry brother, you can go to Final and I will give you my SF, cause I am not sure if I can defeat TH his time. You'd better face TH this time,...I am scared.
LYB: Good on you CJ
LD: Thanks..CJ

Now promise me this. If TH should lose in the SF, I want you to write a script for the final between LD and LCW.

bad_fanatic
03-06-2009, 06:27 PM
If Taufik wins this AE, I think it's one of the biggest accomplishment in his life. I know the AE isn't a great as the OG, or AG, but the opponents that he has to defeat are Peter Gade in Quarter Finals, Lee Choong Wei in Semi, and if he defeats Lin Dan in the finals. If he wins the AE and in that Path, that's just astonishing because he would have beaten all of the current top players to achieve this goal.

Well we'll see if he'll advance pass Gade first.

Jagdpanther
03-06-2009, 06:30 PM
Well we'll see if he'll advance pass Gade first.
Er... He already did.
You probably mean Chong Wei in semi.;)

extremenanopowe
03-06-2009, 06:33 PM
with respect. I doubt so. ;) LCW is in good form as well. ;) Should be an exiting game. The chinese is waiting on the other end. Same old argument will surface again. ;)

indra
03-06-2009, 06:44 PM
Now promise me this. If TH should lose in the SF, I want you to write a script for the final between LD and LCW.

R you kidding, madbad.....I have even prepared a short speech TH has to deliver upon receiving the AE thropy....

Here is the draft Championship Speech:

" First of all I would like to thank the organizing committee who have organized this annual event very well and professionally. I also want to thank PBSI, the coach, family and fans who have supported me in my decision to go independent. Last but no least, my thanks go to HYH, AS, PG, LCW and LD who have helped me enlighten all badminton lovers in BC Forum, especially Cooler, on who I really am."
Thank you very much for all the support you have given me and I hope we'll meet again next year!!! Peace man....

madbad
03-06-2009, 06:47 PM
R you kidding, madbad.....I have even prepared a short speech TH has to deliver upon receiving the AE thropy....

Here is the draft Championship Speech:

" First of all I would like to thank the organizing committee who have organized this annual event very well and professionally. I also want to thank PBSI, the coach, family and fans who have supported me in my decision to go independent. Last but no least, my thanks go to HYH, AS, PG, LCW and LD who have helped me enlighten all badminton lovers in BC Forum, especially Cooler, on who I really am."
Thank you very much for all the support you have given me and I hope we'll meet again next year!!! Peace man....

Top stuff indra, top stuff [thumbs up]
(you should have a Plan B though)

Pemuda
03-06-2009, 07:57 PM
If Taufik wins this AE, I think it's one of the biggest accomplishment in his life. I know the AE isn't a great as the OG, or AG, but the opponents that he has to defeat are Peter Gade in Quarter Finals, Lee Choong Wei in Semi, and if he defeats Lin Dan in the finals. If he wins the AE and in that Path, that's just astonishing because he would have beaten all of the current top players to achieve this goal.

Well we'll see if he'll advance pass Gade first.

TH can beat LCW. I mean, if the AE is held in KL instead, I would say LCW will win. But playing away is not LCW's cup of tea and coupled with the AE being a big tournament, I would say TH have a very high chance of beating LCW.

Hmmm ... I think the match will be decided in 2 sets. TH.

2cents
03-06-2009, 07:57 PM
As far as I can recall, Taufik has never won any open tournament in Europe, no matter it's a super 9, star 5, grand prix, star 4, 3,2 or even star 1 tournament. Everyone including himself always brags that he's won everything except All England, that's pathetic. Even Taufik would win this time, he is still far away from Lin Dan who has won All England 3 times, plus numerous titles in Europe. But I have to admit Taufik is a local village tiger (what's the Malay word for that), he has won many Indonesia titles, although very few international players played there. But you can claim Chen Hong, LD, Chen Jin, BCL, LCW Gade... didn't have the guts to go there. However, I heard that Indonesia government did not grant visa to Chinese players because Indonesia people are always afraid that Chinese players will stay there illegally or immigrate illegally once they enter the Indonesia.

badadum
03-06-2009, 08:08 PM
As far as I can recall, Taufik has never won any open tournament in Europe, no matter it's a super 9, star 5, grand prix, star 4, 3,2 or even star 1 tournament. Everyone including himself always brags that he's won everything except All England, that's pathetic. Even Taufik would win this time, he is still far away from Lin Dan who has won All England 3 times, plus numerous titles in Europe. But I have to admit Taufik is a local village tiger (what's the Malay word for that), he has won many Indonesia titles, although very few international players played there. But you can claim Chen Hong, LD, Chen Jin, BCL, LCW Gade... didn't have the guts to go there. However, I heard that Indonesia government did not grant visa to Chinese players because Indonesia people are always afraid that Chinese players will stay there illegally or immigrate illegally once they enter the Indonesia.

Whatever you heard about the visa, is plain and simply WRONG (bolded just in case your eyesight is as bad as your hearsay deduction). BCL, CH, CJ, LCW, etc have been to INA in many different occasions (BCL even have his loyal fans everytime he came).
Not PBSI fault if LYB doesn't want to send his pupils all the time there. :rolleyes:

And last I check Athens is in Europe. Granted its not an open title, but its probably the most coveted title for pro-shuttler. :cool:

Any other BS you want to spout?

cooler
03-06-2009, 08:16 PM
R you kidding, madbad.....I have even prepared a short speech TH has to deliver upon receiving the AE thropy....

Here is the draft Championship Speech:

" First of all I would like to thank the organizing committee who have organized this annual event very well and professionally. I also want to thank PBSI, the coach, family and fans who have supported me in my decision to go independent. Last but no least, my thanks go to HYH, AS, PG, LCW and LD who have helped me enlighten all badminton lovers in BC Forum, especially Cooler, on who I really am."
Thank you very much for all the support you have given me and I hope we'll meet again next year!!! Peace man....a reference to Cooler on his podium speech....i'm touched:D

jasonmarc
03-06-2009, 08:23 PM
This is the part that he is dangerous......when hold back .........and control the previous two matches.......................and suddently unleashed 100%....i think PG.........will find him very hard to handle.....today....:cool:

Its proven to be true of what I m trying to say yesterday....................;)

TH is dangerous..............PG lost in straight game................

LCW.............in danger also today...............LD....have to make sure

himselve still fresh after today's SF asgaints CJ..........:D:D...

JasonMichael
03-06-2009, 09:57 PM
For me,It doesnt matter if its 2 or 3 sets. In my opinion, TH should win. For example, in the french open 2008 semis , TH still managed to beat LCW in 3 sets after losing the first set. And take note that TH thrashed LCW in the 3rd set 21-11 and went on to the french open finals where he finally lost to Gade in 3 sets. TH as I watched this morning is a more focused, fit and determined player than when I watched him play in the French semis. On the other hand a super fit LCW could not even beat beat Gade in 3 sets in the Korean Open this year. So let the statistics speak for itself.



TH can beat LCW. I mean, if the AE is held in KL instead, I would say LCW will win. But playing away is not LCW's cup of tea and coupled with the AE being a big tournament, I would say TH have a very high chance of beating LCW.

Hmmm ... I think the match will be decided in 2 sets. TH.

yen_saw
03-06-2009, 10:05 PM
Don't put too high of the hope on TH just yet. He struggled to 3 sets in his first two rounds ;)

badadum
03-06-2009, 10:06 PM
For me,It doesnt matter if its 2 or 3 sets. In my opinion, TH should win. For example, in the french open 2008 semis , TH still managed to beat LCW in 3 sets after losing the first set. And take note that TH thrashed LCW in the 3rd set 21-11 and went on to the french open finals where he finally lost to Gade in 3 sets. TH as I watched this morning is a more focused, fit and determined player than when I watched him play in the French semis. On the other hand a super fit LCW could not even beat beat Gade in 3 sets in the Korean Open this year. So let the statistics speak for itself.

But the Dato one did beat Peter in straight set twice in SSM, and then in a rubber game in MO....
Whatever the result is, I hope it'll be a thrilling rubber match. ;)

Dr. Evil
03-06-2009, 10:11 PM
For me,It doesnt matter if its 2 or 3 sets. In my opinion, TH should win. For example, in the french open 2008 semis , TH still managed to beat LCW in 3 sets after losing the first set. And take note that TH thrashed LCW in the 3rd set 21-11 and went on to the french open finals where he finally lost to Gade in 3 sets. TH as I watched this morning is a more focused, fit and determined player than when I watched him play in the French semis. On the other hand a super fit LCW could not even beat beat Gade in 3 sets in the Korean Open this year. So let the statistics speak for itself.

I'm going to agree on this. In fact, I'll as far as to say Taufik was still holding back his full capabilities in his match against Gade. He was playing more stroke with slower movement compare to his usual power smash play which he unleashed during the last leg of game 2. Of course that doesn't really mean Taufik will win for sure.

However dissapointed I may be that LCW might not be able to lift the title this year, the consalation prize is to be able to see a " back to his old self" Taufik vs Lindan. This is probably going to be a treat for all badminton fan looking for a match at the highest level.

chris-ccc
03-06-2009, 10:20 PM
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:D:D:D This thread is really getting HOT.

It's great to read so many comments from so many BCers from around the world.
And it's great that this thread continues.

Summarising:
Round 1: Taufik HIDAYAT [7] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=F52CFDF6-3AB9-4A29-820C-CE30E6D7D260&player=7)http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/INA.gif (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=F52CFDF6-3AB9-4A29-820C-CE30E6D7D260&c=INA) - http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/TPE.gif[TPE] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=F52CFDF6-3AB9-4A29-820C-CE30E6D7D260&c=TPE)Yu Hsin HSIEH (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=F52CFDF6-3AB9-4A29-820C-CE30E6D7D260&player=15) 21-19, 15-21, 21-14 in 1:02
Round 2: Taufik HIDAYAT [7] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=F52CFDF6-3AB9-4A29-820C-CE30E6D7D260&player=7)http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/INA.gif[INA] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=F52CFDF6-3AB9-4A29-820C-CE30E6D7D260&c=INA) - http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/ENG.gif[ENG] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=F52CFDF6-3AB9-4A29-820C-CE30E6D7D260&c=ENG)Andrew SMITH (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=F52CFDF6-3AB9-4A29-820C-CE30E6D7D260&player=17) 15-21, 21-15, 21-16 in 0:57
Q-Finals: Taufik HIDAYAT [7] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=F52CFDF6-3AB9-4A29-820C-CE30E6D7D260&player=7)http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/INA.gif[INA] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=F52CFDF6-3AB9-4A29-820C-CE30E6D7D260&c=INA) - http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/DEN.gif[DEN] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=F52CFDF6-3AB9-4A29-820C-CE30E6D7D260&c=DEN)Peter Hoeg GADE [4] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=F52CFDF6-3AB9-4A29-820C-CE30E6D7D260&player=4) 21-17, 21-18, in 0:47
S-Finals: Taufik HIDAYAT [7] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=F52CFDF6-3AB9-4A29-820C-CE30E6D7D260&player=7)http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/INA.gif[INA] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=F52CFDF6-3AB9-4A29-820C-CE30E6D7D260&c=INA) - http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/MAS.gif[MAS] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=F52CFDF6-3AB9-4A29-820C-CE30E6D7D260&c=MAS)Chong Wei LEE [1] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=F52CFDF6-3AB9-4A29-820C-CE30E6D7D260&player=1) to be played today

Yes, I am a big fan of the current 4 Heavenly Kings, namely; LCW, LD, PG and TH.
If TH can defeat LCW and go on to defeat LD, then TH will become the greater king.

Cheers... chris-ccc
:):):)
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And this thread continues........
Bravo taufik!






fight fight fight...for the privilege to play LD. :p






Taufik won today.. his journey will continue..






I honestly can't see TH getting past PG in the QF. PG has been quietly doing his job while others are in the limelight. I just hope that it turns out to be a good match.






wow after reading this thread, i really want to see TH vs LD in the final....:D






A great deal of mutual 'praise' has been deleted ;)

We are all for members openly discussing issues.
But we're [I]not for members discussing other members.






We'll see how far Taufik can last.. ;)






If Taufik wins this AE, I think it's one of the biggest accomplishment in his life.






Ok...one down...two to go for Taufik Hidayat. LCW and then LD.

Dr. Evil
03-06-2009, 10:25 PM
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Yes, I am a big fan of the current 4 Heavenly Kings, namely; LCW, LD, PG and TH.
If TH can defeat LCW and go on to defeat LD, then TH will become the King of the 4 Heavenly Kings.

Cheers... chris-ccc
:):):)
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Does that mean Taufik = M.Bison

jasonmarc
03-06-2009, 11:19 PM
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:D:D:D This thread is really getting HOT.

It's great to read so many comments from so many BCers from around the world.
And it's great that this thread continues.

Summarising:
Round 1: Taufik HIDAYAT [7] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=F52CFDF6-3AB9-4A29-820C-CE30E6D7D260&player=7)http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/INA.gif[INA] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=F52CFDF6-3AB9-4A29-820C-CE30E6D7D260&c=INA)- http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/TPE.gif[TPE] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=F52CFDF6-3AB9-4A29-820C-CE30E6D7D260&c=TPE)Yu Hsin HSIEH (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=F52CFDF6-3AB9-4A29-820C-CE30E6D7D260&player=15) 21-19, 15-21, 21-14 in 1:02
Round 2: Taufik HIDAYAT [7] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=F52CFDF6-3AB9-4A29-820C-CE30E6D7D260&player=7)http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/INA.gif[INA] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=F52CFDF6-3AB9-4A29-820C-CE30E6D7D260&c=INA)- http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/ENG.gif[ENG] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=F52CFDF6-3AB9-4A29-820C-CE30E6D7D260&c=ENG)Andrew SMITH (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=F52CFDF6-3AB9-4A29-820C-CE30E6D7D260&player=17) 15-21, 21-15, 21-16 in 0:57
Q-Finals: Taufik HIDAYAT [7] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=F52CFDF6-3AB9-4A29-820C-CE30E6D7D260&player=7)http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/INA.gif[INA] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=F52CFDF6-3AB9-4A29-820C-CE30E6D7D260&c=INA)- http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/DEN.gif[DEN] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=F52CFDF6-3AB9-4A29-820C-CE30E6D7D260&c=DEN)Peter Hoeg GADE [4] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=F52CFDF6-3AB9-4A29-820C-CE30E6D7D260&player=4) 21-17, 21-18, in 0:47
S-Finals: Taufik HIDAYAT [7] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=F52CFDF6-3AB9-4A29-820C-CE30E6D7D260&player=7)http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/INA.gif[INA] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=F52CFDF6-3AB9-4A29-820C-CE30E6D7D260&c=INA)- http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/MAS.gif[MAS] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=F52CFDF6-3AB9-4A29-820C-CE30E6D7D260&c=MAS)Chong Wei LEE [1] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=F52CFDF6-3AB9-4A29-820C-CE30E6D7D260&player=1) to be played today

Yes, I am a big fan of the current 4 Heavenly Kings, namely; LCW, LD, PG and TH.
If TH can defeat LCW and go on to defeat LD, then TH will become the greater king.

Cheers... chris-ccc
:):):)
.

The great TH........The match duration....has gone down from 1 hour 02 min to 57 mins and 47 mins in QF..........what next......shorter than 47 mins in SF.......againts LCW....maybe......TH seems to peak as the tournament getting closer to Final.........................LD is in cold sweat now.......:D

chris-ccc
03-06-2009, 11:24 PM
Does that mean Taufik = M.Bison



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:D:D:D Perhaps Taufik >>> M.Bison. :D:D:D
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lawcc
03-06-2009, 11:50 PM
The great TH........The match duration....has gone down from 1 hour 02 min to 57 mins and 47 mins in QF..........what next......shorter than 47 mins in SF.......againts LCW....maybe......TH seems to peak as the tournament getting closer to Final.........................LD is in cold sweat now.......:D
i think so.. defeat by lcw in duration less than 47 min..:p:p:p

Dato A
03-06-2009, 11:51 PM
As far as I can recall, Taufik has never won any open tournament in Europe, no matter it's a super 9, star 5, grand prix, star 4, 3,2 or even star 1 tournament. Everyone including himself always brags that he's won everything except All England, that's pathetic. Even Taufik would win this time, he is still far away from Lin Dan who has won All England 3 times, plus numerous titles in Europe. But I have to admit Taufik is a local village tiger (what's the Malay word for that), he has won many Indonesia titles, although very few international players played there. But you can claim Chen Hong, LD, Chen Jin, BCL, LCW Gade... didn't have the guts to go there. However, I heard that Indonesia government did not grant visa to Chinese players because Indonesia people are always afraid that Chinese players will stay there illegally or immigrate illegally once they enter the Indonesia.

What abt where TH won the most prestigeous Olympic Gold at Athens?

koo_fan
03-06-2009, 11:56 PM
i think so.. defeat by lcw in duration less than 47 min..:p:p:p
All support goes to Chong Wei.Less than 47 minutes?Go for it Chong Wei!

chris-ccc
03-07-2009, 12:00 AM
...... LD is in cold sweat now.......:D



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It would be expected that LD would be charged up with more energy to face Taufik.

Most of us know that LD is more of a 'Speed & Power' player, while TH is a laid back 'Skill & Technique' one.

But we shouldn't discount LCW.

The next match (TH-LCW) is more important for TH, before TH thinks of facing LD.

:):):)
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koo_fan
03-07-2009, 12:09 AM
Woah! Chris!
so excited till it be TuaFik now..?!hehe

after kkk/tbh lost, better i be some sort of humble now.

george@chongwei
03-07-2009, 12:30 AM
hmm, taufik hidayat is very strong in this tournament as i said earlier.
i can see lee chong wei might fall to his hand in today's semi final.
but anything can happen in the match/.
still have faith in chong wei!:)
all the best!:)

whp90
03-07-2009, 12:37 AM
I think Taufik will have a oppoturnity to beat LCW ... as long as there will be no BAD LINES UMPIRES :) ....
Go... Taufik... go Taufik... go..go..go...

HaoFung
03-07-2009, 12:47 AM
this is so funny... even though I think LD would be the favorite... why is the option of playing CJ not even considered? CJ's defense would be the type of player to piss of TH enough to beat him ^^

pjswift
03-07-2009, 12:50 AM
It's great to see TH fitter and more motivated than expected.
TH's advantage is his unpredictability.
PG was clueless what he should do.And why was MF not the coach?Or maybe he's the coach for the Danes in Asia tournaments?
Whether TH reaches final or not,he won't win this year.There's always next year.
It'll be shocking if LD does not win the title,with such a stroll of a draw.

newjazz
03-07-2009, 01:04 AM
And why was MF not the coach?Or maybe he's the coach for the Danes in Asia tournaments?

MF? Martin Frost? He was there right... ?!

pjswift
03-07-2009, 01:21 AM
MF? Martin Frost? He was there right... ?!
He was there but did not coach.The other coach is very uninspiring.

eRa@에라
03-07-2009, 01:34 AM
th vs lcw is gonna be one exciting match... looking at how good th in this ae... he definitely now got good chance of beating lcw... hope lcw can focus and makes less errors and definitely not let th lead in big margin like what happen with ville lang this morning... if he did, not sure he could get back on time to win the game... lcw fighting!

jasonmarc
03-07-2009, 01:36 AM
Woah! Chris!
so excited till it be TuaFik now..?!hehe

after kkk/tbh lost, better i be some sort of humble now.

We always humble.........not after kkk/tbh lost.....or....fuzzy lost......but we talks with facts.................at this moment......with these 2 great players at their top of form..............LCW can only stands behine them..........;)

jasonmarc
03-07-2009, 01:38 AM
Facing TH....even Morten Frost also clue less................hehehe

madbad
03-07-2009, 02:45 AM
I've never seem humbler opinions on a match like this. Everyone is respecting each other's camp (except indra of course ;):D). Seems like everyone is cautious not to tread on anyone's toes.

My thoughts are TH will win in 2 tight games or LCW will take it in 3. As a match goes further, one's capacity to perform to a very fine level diminishes and that's where TH's brilliant net play might not be as precise as he needs it to be. Just my opinion, but expecting a titanic encounter :):).

madbad
03-07-2009, 02:46 AM
Facing TH....even Morten Frost also clue less................hehehe

Players with ultimate speed like LD and LCW might be able to handle TH's unpredictability a little better

Smichz
03-07-2009, 02:48 AM
Nothing is impossible!

limsy
03-07-2009, 03:52 AM
Players with ultimate speed like LD and LCW might be able to handle TH's unpredictability a little better

beside error....pg is faster than lcw in ko 09....;)...

anyway....

my bet on th...hehe....i will paw him...haven't see yet the paw thread......hehe....:p

madbad
03-07-2009, 03:59 AM
beside error....pg is faster than lcw in ko 09....;)...

anyway....

my bet on th...hehe....i will paw him...haven't see yet the paw thread......hehe....:p

Did you watch the game today? If you did you'll notice PG's supposed speed was of little use against TH's craftiness and net pay. What you need is to be able to out-think him. Easier said than done. I don't envy LCW's task.

limsy
03-07-2009, 04:03 AM
Did you watch the game today? If you did you'll notice PG's supposed speed was of little use against TH's craftiness and net pay. What you need is to be able to out-think him. Easier said than done. I don't envy LCW's task.

if i didnt watch...i will just wake up one hours ago????:rolleyes:...

well...pg find clueless to find any weak spot on opposite court....thats all i can saw....hehe...anything further than this...sorry...not my level...unable to observe...

madbad
03-07-2009, 04:07 AM
if i didnt watch...i will just wake up one hours ago????:rolleyes:...

well...pg find clueless to find any weak spot on opposite court....thats all i can saw....hehe...anything further than this...sorry...not my level...unable to observe...

Let me summarize:
- tried to outssmash TH... couldn't
- tried to outplay him at the net... abject failure
- tried to outrally him... too easy for TH
- tried to outlast him... never got the chance

In the end, PG ran out of ideas, and of points

limsy
03-07-2009, 04:30 AM
Let me summarize:
- tried to outssmash TH... couldn't
- tried to outplay him at the net... abject failure
- tried to outrally him... too easy for TH
- tried to outlast him... never got the chance

In the end, PG ran out of ideas, and of points

yeah...this show tat i am realy low level than u....hehe...cannot do such summarize....hehe.....:p

jutawin
03-07-2009, 04:38 AM
LCW should leave the final spot to Taufik. Lindan will win against CJ.
if LCW v Lindan in the final, we will see the replay of Olympic final, one sided match.
Taufik is the best bet to play Lindan this time.

madbad
03-07-2009, 04:48 AM
LCW should leave the final spot to Taufik. Lindan will win against CJ.
if LCW v Lindan in the final, we will see the replay of Olympic final, one sided match.
Taufik is the best bet to play Lindan this time.

That's such a rubbish comment. Let me ask you: if you were facing LCW in the AE semi finals, would you sacrifice all your hard work/training/ambition to allow him a free pass to the final just because he had a better chance? I didn't think so.

jutawin
03-07-2009, 05:02 AM
If I'm LYB, i would..

limsy
03-07-2009, 05:04 AM
If I'm LYB, i would..

but th and lcw is not from china....and their coach is not lyb....;)

george@chongwei
03-07-2009, 06:15 AM
LCW should leave the final spot to Taufik. Lindan will win against CJ.
if LCW v Lindan in the final, we will see the replay of Olympic final, one sided match.
Taufik is the best bet to play Lindan this time.
what a rubbish comment as madbad said:rolleyes:

jutawin
03-07-2009, 06:29 AM
what a rubbish comment as madbad said:rolleyes:
hehe.. I realize it too..
just wait n see lah.

jasonmarc
03-07-2009, 06:46 AM
LCW should leave the final spot to Taufik. Lindan will win against CJ.
if LCW v Lindan in the final, we will see the replay of Olympic final, one sided match.
Taufik is the best bet to play Lindan this time.

You are suggesting them to fix it ...just like LYB......:eek:.....thats not our culture.........ok!........AFAIK INA will not do it.....as well as MAS....not like LYB..............:mad:

volcom
03-07-2009, 06:51 AM
16-9 mwahaha good stuff :)

fix fix fix xD

koo_fan
03-07-2009, 07:00 AM
You are suggesting them to fix it ...just like LYB......:eek:.....thats not our culture.........ok!........AFAIK INA will not do it.....as well as MAS....not like LYB..............:mad:
Hey..quite emo there.
Calm down.We are not going to beat LYB , anyway.He's the king

Destricto_Ense
03-07-2009, 07:34 AM
14-6.. come on Taufik.

ctjcad
03-07-2009, 08:03 AM
..i guess what he meant to say was "i've been preparing and training for the AE, but actually it'll be good only til the Semifinals Round"...;)

Folks, we've heard him say the same thing before, and was it a surprise?? The lad simply ran out of gas vs. LCW...

Thanks for your effort Taufik, maybe you can try again next year and possibly win it all when the top MS players are absent..:p

eRa@에라
03-07-2009, 08:04 AM
LCW should leave the final spot to Taufik. Lindan will win against CJ.
if LCW v Lindan in the final, we will see the replay of Olympic final, one sided match.
Taufik is the best bet to play Lindan this time.

tsk tsk tsk.. what for? ;)

Destricto_Ense
03-07-2009, 08:06 AM
:"(

............

koo_fan
03-07-2009, 08:11 AM
Can Taufik win the AE MS title this time?
I guess it's a no.Good luck taufik!

koo_fan
03-07-2009, 08:12 AM
..i guess what he meant to say was "i've been preparing and training for the AE, but actually it'll be good only til the Semifinals Round"...;)

Folks, we've heard him say the same thing before, and was it a surprise?? The lad simply ran out of gas vs. LCW...

Thanks for your effort Taufik, maybe you can try again next year and possibly win it all when the top MS players are absent..:p
He's an independent player who go for the AE semifinal.cool!

limsy
03-07-2009, 08:13 AM
well...the hope is come to an end....yes...th is trying to beat lcw....he is...but...not hard enough...u still have chance...th....3 more years atleast for u....:)

chris-ccc
03-07-2009, 08:17 AM
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Sad for Taufik, but happy for LCW.

But Taufik ought to be congratulated for making to such a 'close finish' to win the AE MS.

:):):)
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eaglehelang
03-07-2009, 08:22 AM
Unfortunately, Taufik is not able to add the 4th biggie title in his cabinet. Try again next year.

Dr. Evil
03-07-2009, 08:29 AM
Anyone notice in the statistic that TH's smashes are slower now. Average around 245 km/h. I think he use to do > 280 right.

Destricto_Ense
03-07-2009, 08:34 AM
Yes, that's true. I think it's partly because he is slower around the court so doesn't have time to jump for the extra speed.

ctjcad
03-07-2009, 08:49 AM
..it's time for our indra to script another speech for Taufik's exit..;)

volcom
03-07-2009, 09:11 AM
Taufik is getting too old... he is like 29 or 30 now

Destricto_Ense
03-07-2009, 09:17 AM
Yes, but there doesn't seem to be anyone up and coming to replace our current selection of champions. We have PG (32), TH (27), LCW (26) and LD (25). None of these guys are super young.

jutawin
03-07-2009, 09:51 AM
Thank you, Taufik..
you have done your best

jack200603
03-07-2009, 09:59 AM
Taufik has tried the best but this is the reality that LCW's in better form now.

koo_fan
03-07-2009, 10:18 AM
Yes, but there doesn't seem to be anyone up and coming to replace our current selection of champions. We have PG (32), TH (27), LCW (26) and LD (25). None of these guys are super young.
We called them- Super Matured Professional Players.
btw, the semifinal also had Chen Jin.A 1986 borned is quite young.

Destricto_Ense
03-07-2009, 10:31 AM
Chen Jin's not quite as exciting to watch as Lin Dan or Taufik though =/

chris-ccc
03-07-2009, 10:31 AM
We called them- Super Matured Professional Players.
btw, the semifinal also had Chen Jin.A 1986 borned is quite young.



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If CJ defeats LD at the Semi-Finals, then we should think LCW will win the 2009 AE MS. :):):)
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koo_fan
03-07-2009, 10:40 AM
Chris, looks like LCw Vs LD.
the rivalry goes on.
No confirmation.

chris-ccc
03-07-2009, 10:53 AM
Chris, looks like LCW Vs LD.
the rivalry goes on.
No confirmation.



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OMG ... CJ gave to match to LD ??? :confused::confused::confused:

Dan LIN [2] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=F52CFDF6-3AB9-4A29-820C-CE30E6D7D260&player=2)http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/CHN.gif[CHN] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=F52CFDF6-3AB9-4A29-820C-CE30E6D7D260&c=CHN) - http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/CHN.gif[CHN] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=F52CFDF6-3AB9-4A29-820C-CE30E6D7D260&c=CHN)Jin CHEN [3] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=F52CFDF6-3AB9-4A29-820C-CE30E6D7D260&player=3) 21-12, 11-6 Retired in 0:30
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koo_fan
03-07-2009, 10:57 AM
Yeah..dissapointed to see him walk away like that.
Coz i see nothing wrong in him during the 1st set.Neither the 1st half of the 2nd one.

limsy
03-07-2009, 10:57 AM
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OMG ... CJ gave to match to LD ??? :confused::confused::confused:

Dan LIN [2] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=F52CFDF6-3AB9-4A29-820C-CE30E6D7D260&player=2)http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/CHN.gif[CHN] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=F52CFDF6-3AB9-4A29-820C-CE30E6D7D260&c=CHN)- http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/CHN.gif[CHN] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=F52CFDF6-3AB9-4A29-820C-CE30E6D7D260&c=CHN)Jin CHEN [3] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=F52CFDF6-3AB9-4A29-820C-CE30E6D7D260&player=3) 21-12, 11-6 Retired in 0:30
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i SURPRISE tat u look SURPRISE....:eek:

jutawin
03-07-2009, 10:58 AM
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OMG ... CJ gave to match to LD ??? :confused::confused::confused:

Dan LIN [2] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=F52CFDF6-3AB9-4A29-820C-CE30E6D7D260&player=2)http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/CHN.gif[CHN] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=F52CFDF6-3AB9-4A29-820C-CE30E6D7D260&c=CHN) - http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/CHN.gif[CHN] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=F52CFDF6-3AB9-4A29-820C-CE30E6D7D260&c=CHN)Jin CHEN [3] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=F52CFDF6-3AB9-4A29-820C-CE30E6D7D260&player=3) 21-12, 11-6 Retired in 0:30
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That's what we have predicted before..

limsy
03-07-2009, 10:59 AM
i think we should ask uncle oldhand to wait indra comment before he lock this thread....

chris-ccc
03-07-2009, 11:02 AM
i SURPRISE tat u look SURPRISE....:eek:



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Never mind ... We now have WR1 vs WR2. :):):)
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koo_fan
03-07-2009, 11:03 AM
ya lor.Where is indra?

Smichz
03-07-2009, 11:07 AM
Hopefully TH can come back next year,or even keep playing till he's old enough,like PG.Besides,he's an independent pro now anyway...

chris-ccc
03-07-2009, 11:08 AM
That's what we have predicted before..



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That's good prediction at Badminton Central, isn't it? :):):)
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koo_fan
03-07-2009, 11:08 AM
Hopefully TH can come back next year,or even keep playing till he's old enough,like PG.Besides,he's an independent pro now anyway...
He will.He will play till his daughter would be able to go and watch him on court.

yen_saw
03-07-2009, 11:39 AM
This game (vs LCW) showed us that TH can no longer maintaining his high lvl of match through out the entire tournament I was expecting 3 sets to LCW but the result surprise me too. We have probably overestimated TH after his match over PG cos only the player who plays every round efficiently win it all. But for LD he is lucky to have "easy" route so far ;)

Destricto_Ense
03-07-2009, 11:44 AM
The question now is whether the easy route will a benefit or a detriment to Lin Dan.

For: He has hardly broken a sweat in any of his matches.
Against: He has yet to have played a really competitive game and is being thrown straight in at the deep end with LCW who, as a workhorse, will surely have a very high pace.

madbad
03-07-2009, 11:47 AM
Well, I am confused. TH's inconsistency has thrown me off. I was sure this match would be close but it looked like TH came to play in his pyjamas. I don't really know if the score suggests TH played badly or LCW played well; probably a bit of both. Anyway, fair on both sides of the SF that the winner advances with ease.

Thank you TH for winding the clock back for at least one match (v PG). It was thrilling to see you still had it. :)

madbad
03-07-2009, 11:47 AM
ya lor.Where is indra?

I had asked him to prepare a Plan B. I think he's hard at it :);)

chris-ccc
03-07-2009, 11:50 AM
This game (vs LCW) showed us that TH can no longer maintaining his high lvl of match through out the entire tournament I was expecting 3 sets to LCW but the result surprise me too. We have probably overestimated TH after his match over PG cos only the player who plays every round efficiently win it all. But for LD he is lucky to have "easy" route so far. ;)



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With Taufik eliminated, my wish now is: Lee Chong Wei to win the 2009 AE MS. :):):)
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yen_saw
03-07-2009, 11:50 AM
I think many would chose the easy way at this competative level otherwise those w/o wouldn't mean anything to lyb anymore ;)

Destricto_Ense
03-07-2009, 11:51 AM
Well, I am confused. TH's inconsistency has thrown me off. I was sure this match would be close but it looked like TH came to play in his pyjamas. I don't really know if the score suggests TH played badly or LCW played well; probably a bit of both. Anyway, fair on both sides of the SF that the winner advances with ease.

Thank you TH for winding the clock back for at least one match (v PG). It was thrilling to see you still had it. :)
Yes, it was very pleasing to see the Taufik of old, even if it was only once in the 4 matches. It was the first time I had seen Taufik ever being so clever with his smash returns - he always put them in unexpected places.

yen_saw
03-07-2009, 11:55 AM
Well TH did try his best to perform well in every match as promised in his blog so credit to LCW for the great effort he did well.

Destricto_Ense
03-07-2009, 11:56 AM
Taufik being very honest in his blog:

Sat, 07 Mar 2009
I'm on my way back from the arena.
Frankly, i am disappointed at myself, at the way i played today. So many unforced errors, errors that should not have happened to begin with. And Lee Chong Wei, i admit, was at his A game today, his game was almost perfect.
I am currently at the point where i'm painstakingly stacking up in my mind of all that i did wrong today, which was many. Won't be surprised that i'll keep replaying the game all day long today.
I want to apologize to all of you guys for my inability to bring my very best game in today's match. I hope that Lee Chong Wei continues his performance in the final.
And there's nothing i can do now, but pick myself up and move on to the next phase, which is The Swiss Open.
Hope to see you guys there.
Taufik

Smichz
03-07-2009, 12:00 PM
Sat, 07 Mar 2009
I'm on my way back from the arena.
Frankly, i am disappointed at myself, at the way i played today. So many unforced errors, errors that should not have happened to begin with. And Lee Chong Wei, i admit, was at his A game today, his game was almost perfect.
I am currently at the point where i'm painstakingly stacking up in my mind of all that i did wrong today, which was many. Won't be surprised that i'll keep replaying the game all day long today.
I want to apologize to all of you guys for my inability to bring my very best game in today's match. I hope that Lee Chong Wei continues his performance in the final.
And there's nothing i can do now, but pick myself up and move on to the next phase, which is The Swiss Open.
Hope to see you guys there.
Taufik

He's being more n more modest these days,as he got family behind him.I'll support u for whatever the result might be,and i will always enjoy to see u play more than any other MS.

teddbaker
03-07-2009, 12:03 PM
i hope LCW bags the single title...

Destricto_Ense
03-07-2009, 12:06 PM
i hope LCW bags the single title...
It will be an exciting match. To be honest, I much prefer Lin Dan's style of playing as it makes for more interesting viewing, but I still hope Lee Chong Wei wins as payback for OG08 MSF.

bananakid
03-07-2009, 12:19 PM
With huge expectation... I woke up at 4:30am and anticipate the great match in the making. Unfortunately, I was so bored that I felt asleep during the first few points of the second game, and by the time I opened my eyes again, the score line was LCW at 19 points.

Disappointed... Yes.
Angry... No.

Actually, out of the 6 matches that I watched this morning, at least 4 of them put me into sleep mode.

chris-ccc
03-07-2009, 12:19 PM
Sat, 07 Mar 2009
I'm on my way back from the arena.
Frankly, i am disappointed at myself, at the way i played today. So many unforced errors, errors that should not have happened to begin with. And Lee Chong Wei, i admit, was at his A game today, his game was almost perfect.
I am currently at the point where i'm painstakingly stacking up in my mind of all that i did wrong today, which was many. Won't be surprised that i'll keep replaying the game all day long today.
I want to apologize to all of you guys for my inability to bring my very best game in today's match. I hope that Lee Chong Wei continues his performance in the final.
And there's nothing i can do now, but pick myself up and move on to the next phase, which is The Swiss Open.
Hope to see you guys there.
Taufik



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We shall follow Taufik to his next tournament, the 2009 Swiss Open.

:):):)
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Wong8Egg
03-07-2009, 12:45 PM
Taufik being very honest in his blog:

Very sad to hear Tuafik lost, let's hope he will do well in Swiss open.

phaarix
03-07-2009, 01:03 PM
Oh well, sorry for Taufik, it must have been very frustrating to come this far and then have a terrible game against a very good player. All we can hope for now is that Lee Chong Wei will give his best for us against Lin Dan and have a great All England final!

cooler
03-07-2009, 03:19 PM
Ho...ho...ho.....I am coming:D

Now you get excited, hah!!! But remember you HAVE NOT seen his real techniques intended to win AE. TH still saves them for his "rainy day".

LCW is the next victim....better watch out.

Round 32 3 sets, opponent unknown
Round 16 3 sets, opponent average
QF 2 sets, opponent excellent
What a magic!!!

LYB is now getting nervous and pale!!!!

LYB: Oh...no...TH is still alive
LD: Coach, what shuld I do?
Chen Jin: No worry brother, you can go to Final and I will give you my SF, cause I am not sure if I can defeat TH his time. You'd better face TH this time,...I am scared.
LYB: Good on you CJ
LD: Thanks..CJ

LYB: Oh...no...is TH dead? Why did he crumble like that?
LD: Coach, I think he doesn't want to play me, he always find innovative ways to avoid me.
Cooler: Yeah, i really want to see his 7 new weapons of mass destruction. Oh well, maybe he's gonna save them for next year.
Chen Jin: No worry brother, lets repeat our OG script:p
LYB: Good idea CJ
LD: Thanks..CJ

The the rest of the story
Paul Harvey replacement:p

cooler
03-07-2009, 03:37 PM
the only difference between 2004 OG and this 2009 AE is that after beating peter gade in 2004 OG, the coast is clear for TH, unlike in this AE, after beating PG, TH still have has to face some REAL contender(s).

chris-ccc
03-07-2009, 04:09 PM
Very sad to hear Tuafik lost, let's hope he will do well in Swiss open.






Oh well, sorry for Taufik, it must have been very frustrating to come this far and then have a terrible game against a very good player. All we can hope for now is that Lee Chong Wei will give his best for us against Lin Dan and have a great All England final!






LYB: Oh...no...is TH dead? Why did he crumble like that?
LD: Coach, I think he doesn't want to play me, he always find innovative ways to avoid me.
Cooler: Yeah, i really want to see his 7 new weapons of mass destruction. Oh well, maybe he's gonna save them for next year.
Chen Jin: No worry brother, lets repeat our OG script :p
LYB: Good idea CJ
LD: Thanks..CJ



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We are all expecting cooler to be coming in and expressing joy at Taufik's elimination. :p:p:p
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jasonmarc
03-07-2009, 08:43 PM
LYB: Oh...no...is TH dead? Why did he crumble like that?
LD: Coach, I think he doesn't want to play me, he always find innovative ways to avoid me.
Cooler: Yeah, i really want to see his 7 new weapons of mass destruction. Oh well, maybe he's gonna save them for next year.
Chen Jin: No worry brother, lets repeat our OG script:p
LYB: Good idea CJ
LD: Thanks..CJ

The the rest of the story
Paul Harvey replacement:p

Cooler also admited......CJ lets LD won in AE SF.......just like they did in Olympic's SF ........:D:D:D..

limsy
03-07-2009, 08:48 PM
Cooler also admited......CJ lets LD won in AE SF.......just like they did in Olympic's SF ........:D:D:D..

admit it or not...tat is FACT...maybe after 4 years....lyb will say to badzine AGAIN:yes....i ask cj to give ld pass...as ld have higher chance...;)

Ferrerkiko
03-07-2009, 08:49 PM
Taufik already lost to Lee chong wei last night!:(

bananakid
03-07-2009, 09:12 PM
admit it or not...tat is FACT...maybe after 4 years....lyb will say to badzine AGAIN:yes....i ask cj to give ld pass...as ld have higher chance...;)

when that day comes, your post count here in this forum must have reached 30,000 while george@chongwei probably gets pass 50,000.:rolleyes: So, be ready to celebrate and give each other some hugs and kisses.:eek:

whp90
03-08-2009, 12:17 AM
Well, I am confused. TH's inconsistency has thrown me off. I was sure this match would be close but it looked like TH came to play in his pyjamas. I don't really know if the score suggests TH played badly or LCW played well; probably a bit of both. Anyway, fair on both sides of the SF that the winner advances with ease.

Thank you TH for winding the clock back for at least one match (v PG). It was thrilling to see you still had it. :)

I think TH lost because he had wrong strategy...
It seems that LCW used his speed and power (like Hastomo Arby).
TH could not handle speed player compare to PG (Control Player).
But anyway, my heart is already broken... :(

george@chongwei
03-08-2009, 12:29 AM
LCW should leave the final spot to Taufik. Lindan will win against CJ.
if LCW v Lindan in the final, we will see the replay of Olympic final, one sided match.
Taufik is the best bet to play Lindan this time.
lee chong wei prove you wrong too:D;)

george@chongwei
03-08-2009, 12:31 AM
so taufik hidayat road ended in the semi final yesterday by lee chong wei.
what happen to him actually yesterday?
is it that he's playing so tired due to his last 2 days match or lcw was too good and too hot for him to handle?;)

george@chongwei
03-08-2009, 12:34 AM
when that day comes, your post count here in this forum must have reached 30,000 while george@chongwei probably gets pass 50,000.:rolleyes: So, be ready to celebrate and give each other some hugs and kisses.:eek:
what is it got to do with this thread??:rolleyes:

george@chongwei
03-08-2009, 12:38 AM
With huge expectation... I woke up at 4:30am and anticipate the great match in the making. Unfortunately, I was so bored that I felt asleep during the first few points of the second game, and by the time I opened my eyes again, the score line was LCW at 19 points.

Disappointed... Yes.
Angry... No.

Actually, out of the 6 matches that I watched this morning, at least 4 of them put me into sleep mode.
if u feel tired or boring, then just go and sleep!
thats it
and nobody forced you to watch yesterday match, and there's no need to tell how many matches put you into sleep mode..etc..

phaarix
03-08-2009, 12:40 AM
so taufik hidayat road ended in the semi final yesterday by lee chong wei.
what happen to him actually yesterday?
is it that he's playing so tired due to his last 2 days match or lcw was too good and too hot for him to handle?;)

Like he said on his website I guess. He made too many unforced errors, and LCW was just too strong :).



Lee Chong Wei, i admit, was at his A game today, his game was almost perfect.

ctjcad
03-08-2009, 12:41 AM
I think TH lost because he had wrong strategy...
It seems that LCW used his speed and power (like Hastomo Arby).
TH could not handle speed player compare to PG (Control Player).
But anyway, my heart is already broken... :(
Hmm, wrong strategy??..
Why couldn't Taufik handle speed player like LCW??..
How about Taufik's smashes?..
I thought he was ready, has been training & well prepared for this AE??..
:confused:

limsy
03-08-2009, 05:46 AM
when that day comes, your post count here in this forum must have reached 30,000 while george@chongwei probably gets pass 50,000.:rolleyes: So, be ready to celebrate and give each other some hugs and kisses.:eek:


what is it got to do with this thread??:rolleyes:

beside what george say....i really think ur math fail....:crying:....

whp90
03-08-2009, 06:48 AM
Hmm, wrong strategy??..
Why couldn't Taufik handle speed player like LCW??..
How about Taufik's smashes?..
I thought he was ready, has been training & well prepared for this AE??..
:confused:

Hehehe... it's not me who said that... It was Paul Erik Hoyer Larsen (as commentator) said it...
I saw in the first set and second, Taufik made a lot of errors and plus good speed and powers from LCW smashes on the right hand side of TH.

I said the wrong name "Hastomo Arby", it suppose to be 'Heriyanto Arbi' ... Sorry.. Heriyanto... :)

whp90
03-08-2009, 07:05 AM
Continue from my comment (above):

Paul Erik Hoyer Larsen (as commentator) said it... (that LCW used his speed to handle TH).
He did not said that TH applied wrong strategy... I said that one...

BadFever
03-08-2009, 08:13 AM
Hmm, wrong strategy??..
Why couldn't Taufik handle speed player like LCW??..
How about Taufik's smashes?..
I thought he was ready, has been training & well prepared for this AE??..
:confused:
Friend, you start to sound like Pemuda. :p
At least Taufik managed to get into SF. His 2nd set with LCW is pretty good up till the last few points. :D
As for the other IND MS, there is absolutely nothing to talk about. :o

jasonmarc
03-08-2009, 08:41 AM
Yes...at least TH reached SF......with continue training he will be ready for Aug....WC......give him some time........

ctjcad
03-08-2009, 09:51 AM
Continue from my comment (above):

Paul Erik Hoyer Larsen (as commentator) said it... (that LCW used his speed to handle TH).
He did not said that TH applied wrong strategy... I said that one...
"TH applied wrong strategy" in what way(s)??..:confused: :p

Friend, you start to sound like Pemuda. :p
At least Taufik managed to get into SF. His 2nd set with LCW is pretty good up till the last few points. :D
As for the other IND MS, there is absolutely nothing to talk about. :o
Sounds like Pemuda in what way(s)??:p
Yeah, at least Taufik reached the Semifinals, eh??..;)
I'm just putting forward that Taufik tends to say one thing and people expected him to finally win this AE. Reality is, he's been on the downside since his 2005 WC or even the 2006 AG. Add that to his historically well known tendency to slack off during training, makes it even more questionable on his chance.

Yes...at least TH reached SF......with continue training he will be ready for Aug....WC......give him some time........
..oh yesss, give him more time, continue training, preparation and all and he'll be ready for WC in India...Well, let's wait and see..Will LCW and LD and others be there??..;)

limsy
03-08-2009, 10:17 AM
aiya...its ok....we will see lcw vs th in INDIA GRAND PRIX GOLD FINAL....hehe....then we start again....

phaarix
03-08-2009, 03:31 PM
Yeah, at least Taufik reached the Semifinals, eh??..;)
I'm just putting forward that Taufik tends to say one thing and people expected him to finally win this AE. Reality is, he's been on the downside since his 2005 WC or even the 2006 AG. Add that to his historically well known tendency to slack off during training, makes it even more questionable on his chance.


I'm happy with his performance in getting to the SF :). He said he will do his best for his fans at the AE. He never said he will win ;). Mainly it's people like the interviewers on PlanetBadminton that keep saying things like "you're one step closer to your dream of finally winning the AE" after every match he plays...

cooler
03-08-2009, 03:48 PM
I'm happy with his performance in getting to the SF :). He said he will do his best for his fans at the AE. He never said he will win ;). Mainly it's people like the interviewers on PlanetBadminton that keep saying things like "you're one step closer to your dream of finally winning the AE" after every match he plays...
i am disappointd to not able to see his 7 secret weapons

badadum
03-08-2009, 04:11 PM
As long as his stamina doesn't improve, he will always faced an uphill task. Mulyo can help further refine the tactical aspect, but not physical one.

bananakid
03-08-2009, 05:22 PM
i am disappointd to not able to see his 7 secret weapons


Actually I felt the power of his last secret technique... he actualy put me back to sleep(well, I was tired already consider it was like 6:30am when his game started) by getting completely owned by LCW... I was cheering for him the whole time until he started making unforce errors like he wanted to leave the areana as quickly as possible. The power generated from his new technique then quickly activated all the sleeping cells in my body and put me back into sleeping mode, then when I regained consciousness, the game was already down to the 2nd set at 19 points for LCW.

This technique has been unheard of in Men singles matches... it only happened in WS and WD matches to me in the past, but Taufik had managed to make miracle happen!!! Way to go!:cool:

akrylik
03-08-2009, 05:39 PM
He should revert back to the 900T

bananakid
03-08-2009, 05:42 PM
He should revert back to the 900T


For what? To increase the re-sale value of my AT 900T when I can tell people that Taufik uses it???:confused:

I don't recall him doing great with that racket at all, besides winning the Macau open a year or two ago.:rolleyes:

akrylik
03-08-2009, 05:47 PM
I don't know, to me his usual trick shots looks really weak. Assuming he uses the same tension and string in this match, then it's the racket. I've been watching him since he started using AS and it doesn't look as well as his usual self..

bananakid
03-08-2009, 05:49 PM
I don't know, to me his usual trick shots looks really weak. Assuming he uses the same tension and string in this match, then it's the racket. I've been watching him since he started using AS and it doesn't look as well as his usual self..

You forgot to take into account that 1. he is only getting older, and 2. he may not have trained as hard as he possibly can.

Just look at Chen Hong at his prime and the time after he left CHN national team... in less than 1 year, his famous powerful smash was as weak as guys like LCW and Bao ChunLai.:eek: Well, I guess you can blame those "Victor" rackets that he used after going independent.

akrylik
03-08-2009, 06:18 PM
Yes I realize that those 2 should be taken into accounts. But just by seeing how he different he played before and right after he changed. I'm not a fan of the AS tbh..

chris-ccc
03-08-2009, 09:31 PM
I'm happy with his performance in getting to the SF :). He said he will do his best for his fans at the AE. He never said he will win ;). Mainly it's people like the interviewers on PlanetBadminton that keep saying things like "you're one step closer to your dream of finally winning the AE" after every match he plays...



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Well said phaarix. :):):)

TH, PG, LCW and LD are still generating interests for us at Badminton Central.
And TH defeated PG at the 2009 All England.

Currently, Taufik is still one of our better players.
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phaarix
03-08-2009, 09:38 PM
TH, PG, LCW and LD are still generating interests for us at Badminton Central.

I think we can thank players like these four for a good portion of our 1,000,000 posts :D.


Well, I guess you can blame those "Victor" rackets that he used after going independent.

Haha, I guess that could be true :p.

Destricto_Ense
03-08-2009, 09:42 PM
Yes I realize that those 2 should be taken into accounts. But just by seeing how he different he played before and right after he changed. I'm not a fan of the AS tbh..
Did you not see Taufik playing Gade? His control was superb. It was psychology that resulted in the errors during the game against LCW, not the racquet..

CLELY
03-08-2009, 09:44 PM
2009 chance is over for TH, possibly he'll be back next year for his elusive title, All England...Let's see!

Destricto_Ense
03-09-2009, 08:21 AM
Hopefully Taufik will follow Gade's example and keep playing and winning into his 30's.

Not so sure about that though, I think Taufik's body has taken some pretty bad injuries over the years.

yen_saw
03-09-2009, 08:33 AM
Please don't make it sounds like TH funeral:p He has definitely make this sport more popular. I am sure one day current great playere like LCW and LD will go downhill too once the age catching up to them and also with more up and coming youngsters joining the force. Good example is XXF.

cooler
03-09-2009, 08:36 AM
I don't know, to me his usual trick shots looks really weak. Assuming he uses the same tension and string in this match, then it's the racket. I've been watching him since he started using AS and it doesn't look as well as his usual self..trick shots are done by the user, not the racket.

jutawin
03-09-2009, 10:25 AM
Taufik has done what he can did..

limsy
03-09-2009, 11:11 AM
haiya....indra...faster come out to post before uncle oldhand come to close the thread....

indra
03-09-2009, 08:54 PM
haiya....indra...faster come out to post before uncle oldhand come to close the thread....

Ok..ok...I was out of town from Saturday to last ight...

I watched the TH vs LCW....yeah...LCW played very well...on the other hand TH seemed to be exhausted and committed a lot of unforced errors, making him hard to demonstrate his 7 weapons of mass destruction....

Congrats to LCW....and

And I admit for this year AE, LD was very well prepared...congrats too to LD for his spetacular achievement in the AE.....!!!!

Let's see what will happen in the Swiss SS.....That would be a "judgement day" for LD and LCW....:D

Because....let's continue in the Swiss SS thread....:D

jasonmarc
03-09-2009, 09:45 PM
Ok..ok...I was out of town from Saturday to last ight...

I watched the TH vs LCW....yeah...LCW played very well...on the other hand TH seemed to be exhausted and committed a lot of unforced errors, making him hard to demonstrate his 7 weapons of mass destruction....

Congrats to LCW....and

And I admit for this year AE, LD was very well prepared...congrats too to LD for his spetacular achievement in the AE.....!!!!

Let's see what will happen in the Swiss SS.....That would be a "judgement day" for LD and LCW....:D

Because....let's continue in the Swiss SS thread....:D

Right.......LCW have to past...BP...in 2nd round,..TH in QF......PG.....in SF..first before that.....'judgement day'..........another tough journey for LCW....

chris-ccc
03-09-2009, 10:10 PM
Ok..ok...I was out of town from Saturday to last ight...

I watched the TH vs LCW....yeah...LCW played very well...on the other hand TH seemed to be exhausted and committed a lot of unforced errors, making him hard to demonstrate his 7 weapons of mass destruction....

Congrats to LCW....and

And I admit for this year AE, LD was very well prepared...congrats too to LD for his spetacular achievement in the AE.....!!!!

Let's see what will happen in the Swiss SS.....That would be a "judgement day" for LD and LCW....:D

Because....let's continue in the Swiss SS thread....:D



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As requested, we have created this thread: click here (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67238)

chris-ccc
:):):)
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george@chongwei
03-10-2009, 03:50 AM
taufik hidayat is still the most interesting player to watch on court;)
all the best to him in the swiss open!:)

limsy
03-10-2009, 04:54 AM
hehe...better for lcw...can play th and pg before ld...hehe...hopefully he can again reach final...hehe....means more win against th and pg....

have read ur post indra...thumb up

ctjcad
03-12-2009, 03:20 AM
I'm happy with his performance in getting to the SF :). He said he will do his best for his fans at the AE. He never said he will win ;). Mainly it's people like the interviewers on PlanetBadminton that keep saying things like "you're one step closer to your dream of finally winning the AE" after every match he plays...
..are you positive it's only those people from PlanetBadminton, who've been hyping his chances to finally win the AE by venturing in his newly independent pro status, and none in this forum??..:confused: ;)