Can Taufik win the AE MS title this time?

[chris-ccc]

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2009 All England

Taufik Hidayat is seeded 7 in this tournament.
Round of 32: He will be facing Hsieh Yu Hsin [TPE].
Round of 16: Chetan Anand [IND] or Andrew Smith [ENG]

Since Taufik cut himself loose from the Indonesian Badminton Association to become an independent professional player, everyone is asking this question:
Can Taufik Hidayat win the Mens Singles title this time?

All the Best to Taufik Hidayat as an independent professional player.

:):):)
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[ants]

I would be happy if he can win LCW during me semis if they meet each other. And if he win over LCW in the semis.. i would root for him to win AE.

[koo_fan]

I'd give my vote to him if LCW wasn't there.

But to get real, Taufik is unpredictable.I hope he'd prove something to us.

[limsy]

yes....th is unperdictable...anyway...if they in diferent half....i will glad to see lcw vs th...but this wont happen...so...my perdiction is...depend on th...hehe

[chris-ccc]

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I see that TH's tough match will start from the QF, where he will face PG or SS.
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[ants]

Man to watch this tournament is TH. Not Lindan or LCW.. as many wants him to win. LCW would also want to win his 1st AE title.

[chris-ccc]

Man to watch this tournament is TH. Not Lindan or LCW.. as many wants him to win.
LCW would also want to win his 1st AE title.



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This would be a most interesting match: TH versus LCW at the Semi-Finals.
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[eRa@에라]

But LCW and LD are there so, it may be just a dream for TH... or he may persevere and win... my prediction will depend on how TH perform in the first few matches... His match to defeat PG should be an interesting one... If he indeed beat PG, I may give a vote for him :D

[tjl_vanguard]

LCW won TH in QF last yr right?? we'll see bout this yr.. haven seen much of TH recently.. but based on LCW's recent form, he shud be able to take out TH? haha

[chris-ccc]

LCW won TH in QF last yr right?? we'll see bout this yr.. haven seen much of TH recently.. but based on LCW's recent form, he shud be able to take out TH? haha



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TH has been concentrating on training and keeping fit for his coming tournaments in Birmingham and Basel.

He flew from Indonesia, first time without his PBSI friends, for Birmingham on Saturday 28-Feb-2009.
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[george@chongwei]

if he meets lcw in the semi final, im sure it will be surely a cracker there!:);)
expect a tough and heart beating match there for sure;)
th want to win ae, so do lee chong wei:cool:

[Oldhand]

It's not just Taufik Hidayat or Lee Chong Wei.
Everyone, from Henri Hurskainen to Lin Dan, wants to win it.

The question is: Who among them has what it takes to win the title?

[aikakira]

anyone know where Taufik will be staying for AE? I want to meet him lol!!! ^^

if hes already arrived maybe i should locate him! haha!

[jasonmarc]

Top half offer quality QF matches.......LCW Vs SDK and TH VS PG........both are tough matches...............

[jasonmarc]

if he meets lcw in the semi final, im sure it will be surely a cracker there!:);)
expect a tough and heart beating match there for sure;)
th want to win ae, so do lee chong wei:cool:

Although....LCW's target is to enter his first ever AE Final.......but he still have to beat TH in order to enter Final..............tough for LCW............TH is on fire now.....I think......:rolleyes:

[koo_fan]

Although....LCW's target is to enter his first ever AE Final.......but he still have to beat TH in order to enter Final..............tough for LCW............TH is on fire now.....I think......:rolleyes:
I'd like LCW to take every seed as tough.Be it Lin Dan, TAufik etc.
Win every game, Lee Chong Wei.
2 sets all to finals.

[Dr. Evil]

In term of sheer technique skill, taufik is better than LCW with his net play, power smash and deception. Question is whether he actually trained all the way for the past 3 month. If he somehow manage to get to 90% of peak physical fitness, I think he can beat both LCW and lindan. But the thing is, nobody ever knows when it comes to the laid back taufik. May turn out to be a disappointment as well, losing tamely to Peter.

[chris-ccc]

if he meets lcw in the semi final, im sure it will be surely a cracker there! :);)
expect a tough and heart beating match there for sure;)
th want to win ae, so do lee chong wei:cool:



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I think LCW and TH will meet at the Semi-Finals.

Let's see who is hungrier to get to the Finals. ;)
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[akrylik]

Taufik goes clubbing too much..

[jutawin]

Like Taufik always said before "if i want, i will get it". Show us, Taufik...

[xlasher]

not always last year AE08, Taufik had to face LCW in the quarter... TH really wanted to win that match but his condition is not good as this period of time. after MO'08 Taufik really become different player... and he is more motivated.... and of course he got confidence since he played to final before and even got a first place once last year....

Old TH is hardly get to QF and because of that you can see his play on Thomas Cup'08 when he had to play...eh,,, I forgot in the semi when Indonesia lost he should be the one who save Indonesia because at that time the score is 2-0.... he played totally bad , nervous and etc... this is because he do not play that high after AG'06 and never feel the pressure until he got one in TC'08

I'm sorry if you guys can't understand this....

TH now is different... let's hope he shows us who he is actually !!!

[ctjcad]

..for indra to make his formal prognostication on how Taufik will do in this week's AE..:cool:

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TH has been concentrating on training and keeping fit for his coming tournaments in Birmingham and Basel.
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..hmm, is that a presumption??..any source to back up that claim??..

[koo_fan]

Taufik goes clubbing too much..
He prioritize very well.
hmm...pretty well.

[Destricto_Ense]

..hmm, is that a presumption??..any source to back up that claim??..
Taufik himself good enough for you?
http://www.taufik-hidayat.com/blog/index.php?blogid=WEB-09-000043

[ctjcad]

..thanks for the link/info!:cool:
We shall wait & see whether he's been "concentrating fully on training and keeping fit to ensure maximum game".. :cool:

[chris-ccc]

..hmm, is that a presumption??..any source to back up that claim??..






Taufik himself good enough for you?

http://www.taufik-hidayat.com/blog/index.php?blogid=WEB-09-000043



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Destricto_Ense ... Thank you for answering ctjcad 's question. :):):)
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[Destricto_Ense]

I'm a regular reader of Taufik's blog ; )

[chris-ccc]

I'm a regular reader of Taufik's blog ; )



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You must be a great fan of Taufik. :):):)
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[aikakira]

any chance anyone know where hes staying? ^^

[chris-ccc]

any chance anyone know where hes staying? ^^



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Without Taufik's permission, we dare not disclose. ;););)
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[Destricto_Ense]

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You must be a great fan of Taufik. :):):)
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No kidding, I'm flying to England from Ireland just to see him play :P

[indra]

..for indra to make his formal prognostication on how Taufik will do in this week's AE..:cool:

..hmm, is that a presumption??..any source to back up that claim??..

He...he...he...You all will see a totally different TH in just two days...

Round 32, you will see the power TH had when he was only 13 years
Round 16, you will see the style of his play when he was only 14 years
Round 8, you will see his techniques he employed when he was only 15
Round 4, you will him play with half of his real power
Final: You will FINALLY see the real TH with his 7 newly acquired techniques I mentioned earlier in another thread.
:D:D

I will not reveal the other 6 secret techniques that he will demonstrate until he reaches the Final Round

[limsy]

He...he...he...You all will see a totally different TH in just two days...

Round 32, you will see the power TH had when he was only 13 years
Round 16, you will see the style of his play when he was only 14 years
Round 8, you will see his techniques he employed when he was only 15
Round 4, you will him play with half of his real power
Final: You will FINALLY see the real TH with his 7 newly acquired techniques I mentioned earlier in another thread.
:D:D

I will not reveal the other 6 secret techniques that he will demonstrate until he reaches the Final Round
i wondering how will u end up after ae 09....:)

[cooler]

He...he...he...You all will see a totally different TH in just two days...

Round 32, you will see the power TH had when he was only 13 years
Round 16, you will see the style of his play when he was only 14 years
Round 8, you will see his techniques he employed when he was only 15
Round 4, you will him play with half of his real power
Final: You will FINALLY see the real TH with his 7 newly acquired techniques I mentioned earlier in another thread.
:D:D

I will not reveal the other 6 secret techniques that he will demonstrate until he reaches the Final Roundif TH can make it to the final without using his 7 lifelines, he shouldn't needed in the final either. However, i think TH has to start his secrets just to get to the final, if he gets to the final. TH is lucky this time too, he wont face any chinese until the final.

[hcyong]

He...he...he...You all will see a totally different TH in just two days...

Round 32, you will see the power TH had when he was only 13 years
Round 16, you will see the style of his play when he was only 14 years
Round 8, you will see his techniques he employed when he was only 15
Round 4, you will him play with half of his real power
Final: You will FINALLY see the real TH with his 7 newly acquired techniques I mentioned earlier in another thread.
:D:D

I will not reveal the other 6 secret techniques that he will demonstrate until he reaches the Final Round

If you are right, he cannot go past the first round.

[chris-ccc]

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As long as it doesn't rain in Birmingham during the 2009 AE tournament, Taufik should be OK.

Taufik told us "I hate rain, rain makes me lazy and I just want to go to sleep". :D:D:D
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[jasonmarc]

I would love to see how TH beat LD....if they both entered Final.........Olympic Champion Vs Olympic Champion......

[HaoFung]

Im pretty sure Lin Dan has been waiting for this moment since 2005 ^^

[jasonmarc]

Im pretty sure Lin Dan has been waiting for this moment since 2005 ^^

yes.....but LD always fail to do it.......in 2005 they met in WC .....LD lost.
A year later.....they met again in Asia Game Final.....LD ...lost again......
so.....this AE.....Final.......is a chance again..........if they play in Final.....;)

[chris-ccc]

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:D:D:D Our historians here at BC are really something... remembering past TH vs LD matches.

But at this 2009 AE, they can only meet at the Finals.

So... Let's hope that both of them can make it there.

:):):)
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[koo_fan]

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:D:D:D Our historians here at BC are really something... remembering past TH vs LD matches.

But at this 2009 AE, they can only meet at the Finals.

So... Let's hope that both of them can make it there.

:):):)
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No.you can't be, Chris.

[chris-ccc]

No.you can't be, Chris.



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:D:D:D Hahaha ... koo_fan will say that LCW will defeat TH at the Semi-Finals. :D:D:D
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[limsy]

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:D:D:D Hahaha ... koo_fan will say that LCW will defeat TH at the Semi-Finals. :D:D:D
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limsy will say bcl need lindan help in ae and cj help in so....:)

[jasonmarc]

limsy will say bcl need lindan help in ae and cj help in so....:)

It still depend on how LYB think........:cool:......;)..!

[chris-ccc]

limsy will say bcl need lindan help in ae and cj help in so....:)



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limsy ... Don't understand what you mean. :confused::confused::confused:

LD, CJ and BCL are all in the bottom half of the draw. TH is in the top half.

Are you saying that we will get a 'BCL vs TH' Final?
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[limsy]

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limsy ... Don't understand what you mean. :confused::confused::confused:

LD, CJ and BCL are all in the bottom half of the draw. TH is in the top half.

Are you saying that we will get a 'BCL vs TH' Final?
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u are saying:lets both th and ld made to final...

now...get it????....LINDAN....;)

[jutawin]

It's now or never for Taufik..

[jump_smashing]

I think LIN DAN, PETER GADE, LEE CHONG WEI are still difficult opponent to beat in AE.
But well it is Sport, everyone has chance to win :-D

[ye333]

I seriously doubt TH with the power of a 13 yr old can beat HYH... :D


He...he...he...You all will see a totally different TH in just two days...

Round 32, you will see the power TH had when he was only 13 years
Round 16, you will see the style of his play when he was only 14 years
Round 8, you will see his techniques he employed when he was only 15
Round 4, you will him play with half of his real power
Final: You will FINALLY see the real TH with his 7 newly acquired techniques I mentioned earlier in another thread.
:D:D

I will not reveal the other 6 secret techniques that he will demonstrate until he reaches the Final Round

[ye333]

Is this the first time that TH openly admit that he has been training hard?


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TH has been concentrating on training and keeping fit for his coming tournaments in Birmingham and Basel.

He flew from Indonesia, first time without his PBSI friends, for Birmingham on Saturday 28-Feb-2009.
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[chris-ccc]

Is this the first time that TH openly admit that he has been training hard?



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Perhaps now that Taufik is on his own, he has to take more seriously in his training.
Otherwise, he won't last as a successful independent player.
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[ye333]

Let's see his form in this AE. I guess it's relatively easy to spot improvement in physical ability.


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Perhaps now that Taufik is on his own, he has to take more seriously in his training.
Otherwise, he won't last as a successful independent player.
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[chris-ccc]

Let's see his form in this AE. I guess it's relatively easy to spot improvement in physical ability.



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Taufik's Round 1 match might not be as easy as we think.

Wed 3/4/2009 11:30 am Taufik HIDAYAT [7] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=F52CFDF6-3AB9-4A29-820C-CE30E6D7D260&player=7)http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/INA.gif[INA] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=F52CFDF6-3AB9-4A29-820C-CE30E6D7D260&c=INA)vs http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/TPE.gif[TPE] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=F52CFDF6-3AB9-4A29-820C-CE30E6D7D260&c=TPE)Yu Hsin HSIEH (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=F52CFDF6-3AB9-4A29-820C-CE30E6D7D260&player=15)
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[ye333]

Definitely not. I don't think anyone should judge HYH only using his Olympic QF against CJ.


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Taufik's Round 1 match might not be as easy as we think.

Wed 3/4/2009 11:30 am Taufik HIDAYAT [7] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=F52CFDF6-3AB9-4A29-820C-CE30E6D7D260&player=7)http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/INA.gif[INA] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=F52CFDF6-3AB9-4A29-820C-CE30E6D7D260&c=INA)vs http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/TPE.gif[TPE] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=F52CFDF6-3AB9-4A29-820C-CE30E6D7D260&c=TPE)Yu Hsin HSIEH (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=F52CFDF6-3AB9-4A29-820C-CE30E6D7D260&player=15)
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[Smash _Drop]

I would love taufik to win but he has a tough quarter final (if he reaches that stage) against peter gade who incidently beat him in the finals in france taking there head to heads to 6-5 in favour of gade....taufiks looking good but when the games are long you can see taufik struggling to keep up the pace:crying:

[cooler]

Definitely not. I don't think anyone should judge HYH only using his Olympic QF against CJ.


I would love taufik to win but he has a tough quarter final (if he reaches that stage) against peter gade who incidently beat him in the finals in france taking there head to heads to 6-5 in favour of gade....taufiks looking good but when the games are long you can see taufik struggling to keep up the pace:crying:no worry, TH has 7 tricks in his sleeve off his sleeveless tee-shirt:p

[bananakid]

no worry, TH has 7 tricks in his sleeve off his sleeveless tee-shirt:p

Taufik actually demonstrated his last and final trick before... just most people forgot about its power.

Just wait and see, if all his 6 tricks fail to get the job done, he simply will demonstrate his final trick once again... The "Walk out on you" trick!!!:p You can't say you have beaten me if I forefit the match half way. LOL

[indra]

Taufik actually demonstrated his last and final trick before... just most people forgot about its power.

Just wait and see, if all his 6 tricks fail to get the job done, he simply will demonstrate his final trick once again... The "Walk out on you" trick!!!:p You can't say you have beaten me if I forefit the match half way. LOL

Everyone should be patient OK...TH has been focusing and training SMARTLY [not hard] for this AE...You will not see his REAL TH until he reaches the Final...

OK now if you are curious, I now reveal a small portion of his new style of play. Please watch the way he holds his racket in Round 32. You will see where his style of play will be like. :D:D Don't miss it!!! He is SO dangerous now

TH vs LD [if not injured] will most likely to happen

[koo_fan]

Woah!Indra.
Taufik is an idol?I didn't know that.

He could be in Qf if he tried hard enough.for semis, believe as much as you want,
But i'd like to believe LCw will continue his journey till final.

[Nuetronist]

woah...you guys are so hardcore xD What "7 tricks" and he is SO dangerous NOW? I thought he was dangerous before <.<

Also, where am I able to watch these games?

[cooler]

Everyone should be patient OK...TH has been focusing and training SMARTLY [not hard] for this AE...You will not see his REAL TH until he reaches the Final...

OK now if you are curious, I now reveal a small portion of his new style of play. Please watch the way he holds his racket in Round 32. You will see where his style of play will be like. :D:D Don't miss it!!! He is SO dangerous now

TH vs LD [if not injured] will most likely to happenbadminton in 100+ years and TH is re-inventing badminton stroke and grips? WOW, he grew a 6th finger?

[GunBlade008]

badminton in 100+ years and TH is re-inventing badminton stroke and grips? WOW, he grew a 6th finger?

My teammate had a 6th finger on each hand, didn't deviate too far from the norms of today though

[jutawin]

Taufik's hand has eye.. So it know where to put the shuttle. Hehe..

[pjswift]

Yes, if the AE crowd supports him all the way like the FO08 crowd.But of course,the AE crowd's the most boring( or most 'civilised') of all ,so no,even if TH packs in an eighth trick.
Plus LD's draw is so easy he can play at 50% of his level and win the title.Tonight Super Dan only has to play at 10% of his level to beat AS.Even the organisers are merciful.Scheduling the match till the last to give AS maximum rest and recovery so there is some badminton in the match.
TH can wait for next year.That's when the daughter's old enough to ask him why he's been losing to LD since AG and what's he gonna do about it so she can be proud of his badminton.They say child(esp daughter) pressure is the biggest motivator.

[george@chongwei]

all the best to him too in this AE;)

[jasonmarc]

TH....is a independent Pro now........his mind is free........less pressure........plus intensive training ....and daughter as his motivator.... I think....LD, PG and LCW shd beware of him...........TH is dangerous.....

[cooler]

TH....is a independent Pro now........his mind is free........less pressure........plus intensive training ....and daughter as his motivator.... I think....LD, PG and LCW shd beware of him...........TH is dangerous.....i guess u haven't worked as an independent contractor before.

[Smichz]

Well,he would end his career by winning this AE if he wants to be the greatest shuttler in the history,by winning all the major titles.ASIA GAMES 2 times,Olympic,World championship.AE title,must win..

[limsy]

Definitely not. I don't think anyone should judge HYH only using his Olympic QF against CJ.

well...u cant say so...he is very good...if hyh in china/ina/korea/denmark/mas...he will surely a world top ten....;)...maybe he can train with nguyen tien minh and others.......

[jasonmarc]

well...u cant say so...he is very good...if hyh in china/ina/korea/denmark/mas...he will surely a world top ten....;)...maybe he can train with nguyen tien minh and others.......

HYH ( not madbad's HYH) hehe.......is improving with CH's help.....;)

[Dr. Evil]

So what do you guys think after his match with HYH. Was he holding back or training not up to par yet. I mean on one end, it took Taufik 3 game to beat a "not exactly top player" but at the same time he point just took off at the last leg of game 3.

[Destricto_Ense]

Taufik seemed quite distracted during the match. He was watching the INA doubles beside him more than he was paying attention to the match.

On his performance in the match:
Lifted to middle court far too often. This was pretty much the only way HYH was getting points; that, and Taufik messing up net shots. He also was returning it almost solely to his opponent's forehand.
I'm sure Taufik had some logic behind what he was doing, but it wasn't working as well as it should have been..
Still, I'm happy that he won and I'll be back cheering him on tomorrow.

[ctjcad]

Well,he would end his career by winning this AE if he wants to be the greatest shuttler in the history,by winning all the major titles.ASIA GAMES 2 times,Olympic,World championship.AE title,must win..
If Taufik wins the AE this yr, and that is a big IF, he would be one of the greatest shuttlers in badminton history, perhaps just in the Singles category??. I'm sure you know who else has won, basically, all the "major"/prestigious badminton Singles titles (that player even won 2 WC titles).;)

[limsy]

If Taufik wins the AE this yr, and that is a big IF, he would be one of the greatest shuttlers in badminton history, perhaps just in the Singles category??. I'm sure you know who else has won, basically, all the "major"/prestigious badminton Singles titles (that player even won 2 WC titles).;)

no one can surpass th as two time winner in ag....8 years...the best in asia...that his/her meaning...see and read again....the original post....;)

[Dr. Evil]

Define all please. And winning back to back Asian Games is far harder than the current annual WC.

[ctjcad]

no one can surpass th as two time winner in ag....8 years...the best in asia...that his/her meaning...see and read again....the original post....;)
..however, the prestige of the Asian Games titles is often times debated/argued (main reason is it only involves Asian players; just like the opposite Commonwealth Games); also, it hasn't been a IBF/BWF sanctioned-event..

OTOH, the other 3 "major" titles are no doubt prestigious.:cool:
WC probably ranks last in the "top 3" list as yes, it has gone to an annual event.

[limsy]

..however, the prestige of the Asian Games titles is often times debated/argued (main reason is it only involves Asian players; just like the opposite Commonwealth Games); also, it hasn't been a IBF/BWF sanctioned-event..
OTOH, the other 3 "major" titles are no doubt prestigious.:cool:

erm...anyone know...who th beat in 2002 ag final????

[Dr. Evil]

If it weren't prestigious, Lindan wouldn't have moan and groan after his defeat to Taufik. Limsy, what I heard was Taufik beat Lee Hyun Ill in a very bias line call game for the 2002 AG title. The match was played in Korea of course.

[ctjcad]

erm...anyone know...who th beat in 2002 ag final????

If it weren't prestigious, Lindan wouldn't have moan and groan after his defeat to Taufik. Limsy, what I heard was Taufik beat Lee Hyun Ill in a very bias line call game for the 2002 AG title. The match was played in Korea of course.
..it has been discussed, debated nearly to death in other threads. Please do a search on them or if possible, wait for others to chime in.:cool:
Again, i've stated the 2 main reasons of the main point of contention, above.

[limsy]

If it weren't prestigious, Lindan wouldn't have moan and groan after his defeat to Taufik. Limsy, what I heard was Taufik beat Lee Hyun Ill in a very bias line call game for the 2002 AG title. The match was played in Korea of course.

if u cant get the grapes...sure u wont say it is sweet...;)....clear???

i see...wait...lhi is not in top ten at the end of 2002...wr 13...:rolleyes:...anyway...th deserve his title wether he beaT LHI OR LD IN AG FINAL...

[ctjcad]

...I'm sure you know who else has won, basically, all the "major"/prestigious badminton Singles titles (that player even won 2 WC titles).;)
..that lad has won multiple All-England titles, as well..;)

[george@chongwei]

taufik hidayat 1st round match earlier today..

Taufik HIDAYAT [7] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=F52CFDF6-3AB9-4A29-820C-CE30E6D7D260&player=7)http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/INA.gif[INA] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=F52CFDF6-3AB9-4A29-820C-CE30E6D7D260&c=INA) - http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/TPE.gif[TPE] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=F52CFDF6-3AB9-4A29-820C-CE30E6D7D260&c=TPE)Yu Hsin HSIEH (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=F52CFDF6-3AB9-4A29-820C-CE30E6D7D260&player=15) 21-19 15-21 21-14he beat the taiwan player in 1 hour 2 minutes;)

[cooler]

indra, it took TH 3 set to close his first rounder, did he use up his bag of tricks?

[cooler]

..that lad has won multiple All-England titles, as well..;)


2 WC and 2 AE titles (3 AE if i count the one gifted to chen jin in 2008) are >>>> than 2 AG titles
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[limsy]

2 WC and 2 AE titles (3 AE if i count the one gifted to chen jin in 2008) are >>>> than 2 AG titles
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hehe...2 wc and 2 ae in how many year???3???4??? or 5????:confused:

i wonder how many year did ag represent???anyone???:confused:....

[cooler]

hehe...2 wc and 2 ae in how many year???3???4??? or 5????:confused:

i wonder how many year did ag represent???anyone???:confused:....
so what, AE is held every year and TH can't even win one.
Don't tell me those AG is harder to get than Opens because it is the opposite.
OG, WC and AG have quotas of entries. That is why TH don't win must Opens. FYI, in 06 AG, LD beat TH twice, TH only beat LD once.

[SibugiChai]

TH cannot win this ae becoz is lcw year.. kalas!

[limsy]

so what, AE is held every year and TH can't even win one.
Don't tell me those AG is harder to get than Opens because it is the opposite.
OG, WC and AG have quotas of entries. That is why TH don't win must Opens. FYI, in 06 AG, LD beat TH twice, TH only beat LD once.

actually...i need not to argue with u....:)...i am not th fans...nor anti lindan...

my conclusion is:no one will say th grapes issweet if they didnt get it...;)

case closed for me...:)

[chris-ccc]

Taufik seemed quite distracted during the match. He was watching the INA doubles beside him more than he was paying attention to the match.

On his performance in the match:
Lifted to middle court far too often. This was pretty much the only way HYH was getting points; that, and Taufik messing up net shots. He also was returning it almost solely to his opponent's forehand.
I'm sure Taufik had some logic behind what he was doing, but it wasn't working as well as it should have been..
Still, I'm happy that he won and I'll be back cheering him on tomorrow.



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Perhaps Hidayat was more worried for the INA Doubles than for his own match. It appeared that as soon as Dasuki/Sukmawan lost their match next court, he returned with concentration and moved up one gear to finish his match quickly.

Destricto_Ense ... TH-HYH match 21-19, 15-21, 21-14 was in 1 hour 2 mins; Did TH show any sign of extreme tiredness during the match?
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[ye333]

cooler you messed up. :D

First LD has 3 AEs (04, 06, 07). Second if you want to compare LD and TH, you should use the argument 1 WC + 3 AE >> 2 AG as TH also has one WC.


2 WC and 2 AE titles (3 AE if i count the one gifted to chen jin in 2008) are >>>> than 2 AG titles
:D

[cooler]

cooler you messed up. :D

First LD has 3 AEs (04, 06, 07). Second if you want to compare LD and TH, you should use the argument 1 WC + 3 AE >> 2 AG as TH also has one WC.
doesn't matter, LD has enough hardwares to spare to cover up any of my mess up:p

[cooler]

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2009 AE: Day 3 (Round 2) Thursday March 5

For match results as they are progressing live: click here (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=F52CFDF6-3AB9-4A29-820C-CE30E6D7D260&d=20090303)

The Round 2 matches will start from 10:00am. There are many great matches for us to follow.
The following is a good selection:

Mens Singles
Taufik HIDAYAT [7] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=F52CFDF6-3AB9-4A29-820C-CE30E6D7D260&player=7)http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/INA.gif[INA] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=F52CFDF6-3AB9-4A29-820C-CE30E6D7D260&c=INA) -vs- http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/ENG.gif[ENG] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=F52CFDF6-3AB9-4A29-820C-CE30E6D7D260&c=ENG)Andrew SMITH (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=F52CFDF6-3AB9-4A29-820C-CE30E6D7D260&player=17)
chris-ccc
:):):)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwCc5a--zFc

Andrew said he 'can definitely win the next game'...(1:40)

does andrew has antidotes to TH's bag of 7 new tricks?.

[Destricto_Ense]

indra, it took TH 3 set to close his first rounder, did he use up his bag of tricks?
Taufik didn't know he was playing, he was just swinging his racquet while watching the MD next court :P

[Destricto_Ense]

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Destricto_Ense ... TH-HYH match 21-19, 15-21, 21-14 was in 1 hour 2 mins; Did TH show any sign of extreme tiredness during the match?
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No, not like he would if he had played a 3 set match against LCW.. did not notice any lack of fitness, but definitely a lack of concentration.

[cooler]

Taufik didn't know he was playing, he was just swinging his racquet while watching the MD next court :Pahhh, that is your excuse for his winning. i hope u got one ready for losing:p

[Destricto_Ense]

Forgive me for not being worried on TH's behalf against an English player..

[cooler]

Forgive me for not being worried on TH's behalf against an English player..hey, andrew can play war of words too:p

[Destricto_Ense]

He's got the language advantage! Besides, I would not expect Mr. Smith to say "I think I'm going to lose tomorrow. In fact, I might not bother showing up".

[Destricto_Ense]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0MSB8TNYAI&feature=channel

[Wong8Egg]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0MSB8TNYAI&feature=channel

Way to go TH, I really hope you do win this year. One more AE and it will make you a legend. ;)

[chris-ccc]

No, not like he would if he had played a 3 set match against LCW.. did not notice any lack of fitness, but definitely a lack of concentration.



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So it appears that Taufik has worked on his fitness to prepare for this 2009 AE.
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[Destricto_Ense]

I do believe that he came into the tournament with extra determination, but then again I doubt he would've tired either way after a first round match.

[Dr. Evil]

Just because it was debate to death doesn't mean squat. As far as I am concern, professional player opinion >>>>>>> fanboy opinion.

But I can see where you are going through all your post........... sucking up to Lindan. Its too bad that you are so blinded in defending your idol that you fail to realize no one is denying Lindan's achievement.

Unlike Taufik, Lindan work his ass off during training and I can respect him for his commitment. But that doesn't change the fact that winning back to back AG is far harder than an annual WC or All England.

[indra]

indra, it took TH 3 set to close his first rounder, did he use up his bag of tricks?

Cooler,

As I said in Round 32 He did NOT use ANY newly-acquired technique..... only playing with the skills, power and focus...comparable to his when he was only 13:D....

[cooler]

Cooler,

As I said in Round 32 He did NOT use ANY newly-acquired technique..... only playing with the skills, power and focus...comparable to his when he was only 13:D....hehehehe hahaha. So when TH say BCL is a little boy, he think BCL is like 6 years old???:D

[cooler]

Just because it was debate to death doesn't mean squat. As far as I am concern, professional player opinion >>>>>>> fanboy opinion.

But I can see where you are going through all your post........... sucking up to Lindan. Its too bad that you are so blinded in defending your idol that you fail to realize no one is denying Lindan's achievement.

Unlike Taufik, Lindan work his ass off during training and I can respect him for his commitment. But that doesn't change the fact that winning back to back AG is far harder than an annual WC or All England.
like i said many times too, LD beat TH 2 times in 06 AG. It became a bore to keep beating TH in the same week i tell ya. It seem TH fans has only AG to talk about, a non event to the chinese team. U can also see XXF and zhang ning played like half asleep as well. ZN lost to yippy in 2 sets. The biggest win at the 06 doha badminton was TH's mouth.

http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38674

[phaarix]

Its too bad that you are so blinded in defending your idol that you fail to realize no one is denying Lindan's achievement.

Don't worry about cooler :). Always the same, always the same... I really wonder if he believes half the stuff he says himself! But it wouldn't be a Taufik thread without him!

[bh185008]

To Cooler..not sure why you have Taufik so much....:cool:..Lin Dan himself mentioned that Taufik can rise on certain occassion..and thats true....he won AG twice...and also beating Lin Dan in 2005 WC...Taufik was the first player ever to be OG and WC Champion for the first time..yeah....techniques wise..he is the best in World Badminton.....even Wang Lin from China is one of his fan.....:D..so just relax.........PS I dont hate Lin Dan...but I just think Taufik is the better player than Lin Dan....:p

[bh185008]

sorry .I meant to write ...why you hate Taufik so much..:)

[cooler]

for the record, i did not brought up AG into this thread. However, i should have the rights to reply with correct misinformation. So if i reply your off topic discussion, i'm a hater?? Like i said again and again, when TH fans only bright spot is TH's 2 AG titles. Come on, even lcw did lousy in AG. Why? because LD and LCW dont treat AG as a serious title. By my estimate, i think LYB doesn't even want their ill prepared chinese team to play in the last (06) AG. He did it for to support the AG image.

[bh185008]

what I meant..reading your comment from time to time...showing that you dislike Taufik so much...thats all......its just my opinion mate....peace...:D

[cooler]

what I meant..reading your comment from time to time...showing that you dislike Taufik so much...thats all......its just my opinion mate....peace...:D
i also criticize Al Gore, and (CO2) global warming alarmists like crazy. Does that makes me a environment and mother nature hater?

[koo_fan]

By my estimate, i think LYB doesn't even want their ill prepared chinese team to play in the last (06) AG. He did it for to support the AG image.

Wow!What a noble LYB.Touching.

[cooler]

Wow!What a noble LYB.Touching.if u only have seen XXF and Z. Ning on the court at 06 AG, they look like they outta the bed.

[phaarix]

Wow!What a noble LYB.Touching.

Haha, how very professional of them all to "not try" :) (a common criticism of Taufik coincidentally).

[bh185008]

Even before the individual tournament started (AG 06)..Liyongbo said..Taufik is finished..hhahaha..then what happen???? He won the Gold Medal......beating Lin Dan.....:p

[cooler]

Haha, how very professional of them all to "not try" :) (a common criticism of Taufik coincidentally).
i said ill or not well prepared. LD beat TH in 2 or the 3 matches, would u say TH didn't tried as hard as LD?

it is obvious u TH fans don't have much meats to talk about this AE open. Th fans loves to live in the past, wayyyyyyyy back in the past, like a 13 yrs old TH, LOLOLOLOL

[phaarix]

i said ill or not well prepared. LD beat TH in 2 or the 3 matches, would u say TH didn't tried as hard as LD?

No I say LD beat TH in 2 team matches, and lost to him in the individual finals. And I say they both seemed to be trying. Why do you say that? You're the one that plays down team events (for instance when Lin Dan lost to Lee Chong Wei at the Thomas Cup - I'm sure I remember you saying it wasn't important to the team for him to win). I'm not interested in who's better. I don't care :).

Anyway what's it to you who is better than who?? What do you have to do with either of them?

[bh185008]

agree with you Phaarix...

[cooler]

No I say LD beat TH in 2 team matches, and lost to him in the individual finals. And I say they both seemed to be trying. Why do you say that? You're the one that plays down team events (for instance when Lin Dan lost to Lee Chong Wei at the Thomas Cup - I'm sure I remember you saying it wasn't important to the team for him to win). I'm not interested in who's better. I don't care :).

Anyway what's it to you who is better than who?? What do you have to do with either of them?
sorry, can't chat, just pawed, got baddy to go to now:D:)
save some for me later:p

[phaarix]

sorry, can't chat, got baddy to go to now:D:)

Hehe have fun then :D. Maybe another time!

[limsy]

No I say LD beat TH in 2 team matches, and lost to him in the individual finals. And I say they both seemed to be trying. Why do you say that? You're the one that plays down team events (for instance when Lin Dan lost to Lee Chong Wei at the Thomas Cup - I'm sure I remember you saying it wasn't important to the team for him to win). I'm not interested in who's better. I don't care :).


add one more on ur list...sudirman cup....;)....also not inportant 1...dunno why...someone lost the ONLY POINT for china in the whole tournament....:confused:

[chris-ccc]

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2009 All England

Taufik Hidayat is seeded 7 in this tournament.

Round of 32: He will be facing Hsieh Yu Hsin [TPE]
Round of 16: Chetan Anand [IND] or Andrew Smith [ENG]



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So, in Round of 16, Taufik will face Andrew Smith [ENG] today, Thursday 5-Mar-2009. And many think that TH will win this round too.

The next round will be the Quarter-Finals, where either Peter Gade [DEN] or Ng Wei [HKG] will be waiting for him.

Many are hoping to watch a TH-PG match there.
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[jasonmarc]

if u only have seen XXF and Z. Ning on the court at 06 AG, they look like they outta the bed.

U mean they didnt put on make up.......?....:D:D...sorry just kidding...

Yes....they did mentioned.......tired due to too hectic schedule.........at that time..........;)

[yen_saw]

wow after reading this thread, i really want to see TH vs LD in the final....:D

[Dr. Evil]

Like I said before, professional player opinion >>>>> fanboy opinion. If I wanted too, I could argue until doomsday that the Super Series final is more prestige than WC but that doesn't make it true.

Hell, I could even argue that the only reason why Lindan even won the WC 06 is because Taufik wasn't even putting 50% effort. Been there, done that just like Olympic games. He was unmotivated.

Fortunately for you, I'm no blind fanboy who make ridiculous statement.

[huangkwokhau]

if u only have seen XXF and Z. Ning on the court at 06 AG, they look like they outta the bed.
IF AG is not important to Chinese team...why China bothers to have it next year..........I am sure if chn players lost, they must get bored..half sleep, etc.......:D:D

[Nuetronist]

Lets try to keep this professional guys...no need to call each other ridiculous or accuse each other of things - if you don't wish to be nice, be civil. Theres no need to start talking about each other rather than what the topic was started at - Taufik's chances at all england '09.

As for the topic I really want to see Taufik play Lin Dan...that would be so fun to watch xD

[cooler]

IF AG is not important to Chinese team...why China bothers to have it next year..........I am sure if chn players lost, they must get bored..half sleep, etc.......:D:DLD won 2 of the 3 matches against TH. Playing the 3rd set in the same week? even i will get bored.

[Oldhand]

A great deal of mutual 'praise' has been deleted ;)

We are all for members openly discussing issues.
But we're not for members discussing other members.

Nuetronist says it well:


Lets try to keep this professional guys...no need to call each other ridiculous or accuse each other of things - if you don't wish to be nice, be civil. Theres no need to start talking about each other rather than what the topic was started at - Taufik's chances at all england '09.

As for the topic I really want to see Taufik play Lin Dan...that would be so fun to watch xD

[phaarix]

Lets try to keep this professional guys...

If only I could be a professional forum poster :).

[jasonmarc]

The after match interview......TH express his determination in this AE..........he is really wanting this title....and he will do it...........after he had won WC, Olympic, AGx2,........and now it's AE 09.........for his Grand Slam.........collection..........

[danielwong]

The after match interview......TH express his determination in this AE..........he is really wanting this title....and he will do it...........after he had won WC, Olympic, AGx2,........and now it's AE 09.........for his Grand Slam.........collection..........


good luck to Taufik, hope he can nail it
although i hoped LCW to win...
may the best man prevail...
:)

[ctjcad]

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So it appears that Taufik has worked on his fitness to prepare for this 2009 AE.
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..like what Destricto_Ense mentioned, "it's still the first round". We'll see how far Taufik can last..;)

[jermaine]

in my own opinion,
taufik is unlikely to win.

[ye333]

There is one thing strange about the game statistics. The number of "other" points is huge.

[Wong8Egg]

The real challenge start from here:
Gade, LCW and LD.

[ctjcad]

..arguably the most challenging last 3 opponents Taufik will ever face and perhaps, should he win, be his greatest accomplishment.
A legendary player on the journey to his retirement, a great player sitting comfortably (w/his Datuk hat) as the WR 1 and a soon to be Legendary Player still playing at the peak of his career...ckckck, wow, what better challenge for the Wild Child of Badminton to possibly finish his long and illustrious career on a great note, if he should win it all..;)

[Destricto_Ense]

Taufik ain't gonna win the All England playing like he did today, I'm afraid. He's a notoriously slow starter, but even in the latter two sets he didn't seem in the game. He was hardly doing any smashes at all, which I thought was surprising.
I really hope he ups his game for playing Gade tomorrow, but two 3-set matches might have taken it out of him.

Still, it was nice to see him beat the home-boy. I was the only person in the crowd shouting "GO TAUFIK!!" :P

[cooler]

The after match interview......TH express his determination in this AE..........he is really wanting this title....and he will do it...........after he had won WC, Olympic, AGx2,........and now it's AE 09.........for his Grand Slam.........collection..........words don't win titles. We can't sue him if he misinformed us.

[whp90]

Taufik ain't gonna win the All England playing like he did today, I'm afraid. He's a notoriously slow starter, but even in the latter two sets he didn't seem in the game. He was hardly doing any smashes at all, which I thought was surprising.
I really hope he ups his game for playing Gade tomorrow, but two 3-set matches might have taken it out of him.

Still, it was nice to see him beat the home-boy. I was the only person in the crowd shouting "GO TAUFIK!!" :P

Taufik Coach (Mulyo) said that he won in 3 sets because there was something wrong with his legs:

"Pelatih Taufik, Mulyo Handoyo menyatakan, Taufik kehilangan set pertama karena kondisi kakinya kurang fit sebelum pertandingan. "Sehingga tadi dia bermain agak berat," kata Mulyo, Kamis (5/3) malam waktu Birmingham, usai mendampingi Taufik. " (KOMPAS - http://olahraga.kompas.com/read/xml/2009/03/06/0236478/taufik.dan.bonaahsan.ke.perempat.final..)

[chris-ccc]

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So... Today, Friday 6-Mar-2009, at the Quarter-Finals, Taufik will face Peter Gade.



wow after reading this thread, i really want to see TH vs LD in the final....:D



Taufik still has to defeat PG and then LCW/Ville Lang first, before he gets to challenge LD.
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[cooler]

Taufik ain't gonna win the All England playing like he did today, I'm afraid. He's a notoriously slow starter, but even in the latter two sets he didn't seem in the game. He was hardly doing any smashes at all, which I thought was surprising.
I really hope he ups his game for playing Gade tomorrow, but two 3-set matches might have taken it out of him.

Still, it was nice to see him beat the home-boy. I was the only person in the crowd shouting "GO TAUFIK!!" :PTH is saving his best for last (i.e. LD). :D I hope he remember that he has to reach there first:p

[ctjcad]

Taufik Coach (Mulyo) said that he won in 3 sets because there was something wrong with his legs:

"Pelatih Taufik, Mulyo Handoyo menyatakan, Taufik kehilangan set pertama karena kondisi kakinya kurang fit sebelum pertandingan. "Sehingga tadi dia bermain agak berat," kata Mulyo, Kamis (5/3) malam waktu Birmingham, usai mendampingi Taufik. " (KOMPAS - http://olahraga.kompas.com/read/xml/2009/03/06/0236478/taufik.dan.bonaahsan.ke.perempat.final..)
.."his legs' condition is not fit enough??":confused:..I thought he mentioned, on his website, that he's been preparing & training for this AE?? i hope that's a result of him over-training himself...:p

[Destricto_Ense]

TH wasn't moving as quickly as Smith was, and he wasn't diving for smashes either..

[cooler]

.."his legs' condition is not fit enough??":confused:..I thought he mentioned, on his website, that he's been preparing & training for this AE?? i hope that's a result of him over-training himself...:p
let say..... the meaning of training and preparing is different between TH and say, LCW, PG and LD:p;)

[indra]

Despite his "leg problem", he had no significant difficulty in handling Mr. Smith.

The next victim of TH's new tricks is Peter Gade....

[Destricto_Ense]

Despite his "leg problem", he had no significant difficulty in handling Mr. Smith.

The next victim of TH's new tricks is Peter Gade....
I think losing the first set and generally playing pretty badly constitutes a fairly "significant difficulty".

[whp90]

Hoping that his legs will be OK for tonight game, especially against PG...
But not only him, Bona Septano is injured as well in the 2nd game agaisnt Denmark..
We'll what happening tonight then...
God bless you Taufik... even though many people dislike you :)

[indra]

let say..... the meaning of training and preparing is different between TH and say, LCW, PG and LD:p;)

Tomorrow, TH will show the world how to play Badminton with Salsa's style:D

This is a newly invented style of play never played before. Please watch TH's waist movement....watch it very closely...you will see the effect to the overall match!!!:D

[Destricto_Ense]

Indra, please stop making up stuff. I saw Taufik play the last two days and he had nothing that I haven't seen from him before. Besides, that back brace of his is hardly going to help him to shake his hips, is it?

[xlasher]

I'm not hoping for the worst, but see all INA players one by one down due to injuries... start from SDK, Bona, and we have Nova/Lilyan and Taufik but remember we still have 2 more days... Bona injured on the way to QF ... I'm afraid one of them will be injured on the way to SF and on the way to Final....


Taufik will need some spa today... please recommend him the best spa in London...wkwkwkkw:D:D

[Destricto_Ense]

That won't help if he's in Birmingham! ;)

[Joyous]

Tomorrow, TH will show the world how to play Badminton with Salsa's style:D

This is a newly invented style of play never played before. Please watch TH's waist movement....watch it very closely...you will see the effect to the overall match!!!:D


LOL...I almost choked with my own laughter. You are ONE hilarious guy, Indra. It's kinda fun to have BC members like you. I prefer the tango. Cheers.

[jasonmarc]

Now....i start to worry about TH.....keep playing rubber game.......not like LD......won all his matches so easy.......even score straight win over BCL.......in less than 15 points each game..................great planning by LYB.........

Hope TH.....able to play with 'lighter' legs.....and beat LD...in the Final.....

[Athelete1234]

Now....i start to worry about TH.....keep playing rubber game.......not like LD......won all his matches so easy.......even score straight win over BCL.......in less than 15 points each game..................great planning by LYB.........

Hope TH.....able to play with 'lighter' legs.....and beat LD...in the Final.....

...though I remember the french open 2008 he had rubber games for every match as well....;)

[jasonmarc]

...though I remember the french open 2008 he had rubber games for every match as well....;)

and he lost to PG...in the final right...?..;)

[madbad]

HYH ( not madbad's HYH) hehe.......is improving with CH's help.....;)

Mine is HHY [AHEM]

[phaarix]

Taufik has reached the stage I hoped he could. Now we get TH vs PG, TH/PG vs LCW and TH/PG/LCW vs LD :D (most likely). The perfect All England!

[madbad]

Despite his "leg problem", he had no significant difficulty in handling Mr. Smith.

The next victim of TH's new tricks is Peter Gade....

Your astrological sign says you will have a career as a politician, spin artist or promoter. Take your pick

[madbad]

I honestly can't see TH getting past PG in the QF. PG has been quietly doing his job while others are in the limelight. I just hope that it turns out to be a good match

[indra]

Now....i start to worry about TH.....keep playing rubber game.......not like LD......won all his matches so easy.......even score straight win over BCL.......in less than 15 points each game..................great planning by LYB.........

Hope TH.....able to play with 'lighter' legs.....and beat LD...in the Final.....

Nothing to worry !!!

That's the difference between TH and LD

LD cannot go alone to win, he has been helped by his friends ---> Gift
This time by Bao and Chen Jin,

His journey to the Championship Podium, most of the time, has been like that....This is totally different from what TH has achieved.....

[indra]

Your astrological sign says you will have a career as a politician, spin artist or promoter. Take your pick

I am an illusionist:D

[weeyeh]

LD cannot go alone to win, he has been helped by his friends ---> Gift
This time by Bao and Chen Jin,


As much as I'm a fan of TH...

LD can't really help it right? It's not really his choice that China has so many excellent MS players.

[hiltonmoreira9]

for me both TH and LD are one of the best players in the modern era..
on his TH prime years, LD could be easily beaten by TH.. now, TH's quality has been decreasing so it is just okay if LD could defeat TH..
remember, on TH's prime years, he is the king while LD still climbing on the tree to be the best.

[weeyeh]

for me both TH and LD are one of the best players in the modern era..
on his TH prime years, LD could be easily beaten by TH.. now, TH's quality has been decreasing so it is just okay if LD could defeat TH..
remember, on TH's prime years, he is the king while LD still climbing on the tree to be the best.

I think it remains to be seen who will win if the clash of both at peak happens. TH is full of finesse but LD is raw speed and power. The game will be very very mental. TH will be pulling LD into a net battle but the danger with a speedy LD is that TH will have much less margin for error.

[jutawin]

and he lost to PG...in the final right...?..;)
today Taufik will play PG.
Let's see rubbet set again.

[pjswift]

TH wasn't moving as quickly as Smith was, and he wasn't diving for smashes either..
Yet he still won?! Maybe he realised from FO08 that winning in 3 games suit him better.Use G1 as warm up and make opponent feel after G1, the only way for them is down.
But PG with MF is a potent formula.
TH will require maximum support from you to keep him INTERESTED.The key is to keep him motivated.He may just do it for one big fan.He has shown he can last 60+ mins at a stretch now.Please consistently cheer for him between points.That's how he lasted in FO08. Constant refuelling from the crowd. "Taufik Magic!" they cheered.
The reason TH has won so far must be your constant support.It's the quality and consistency, not quantity of the cheer that counts.All the best to you and TH.

[koo_fan]

for me both TH and LD are one of the best players in the modern era..
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Yeah..and the WR1 goes to Chong Wei.

[koo_fan]

today Taufik will play PG.
Let's see rubbet set again.
Interesting match, it would be.

[jutawin]

In Olympic, the player who beat PG, always become Champion.
Ji Xin peng(2000), Taufik Hidayat (2004), Lindan (2008)..
Hope Taufik beat PG this time & become All England Champion..
KAMU BISA, Taufik...

[danielwong]

In Olympic, the player who beat PG, always become Champion.
Ji Xin peng(2000), Taufik Hidayat (2004), Lindan (2008)..
Hope Taufik beat PG this time & become All England Champion..
KAMU BISA, Taufik...


but you say in Olympic...
so in AE wont happen...
HABISLAH, Taufik.....:D:D:D

[whp90]

cooler you messed up. :D

First LD has 3 AEs (04, 06, 07). Second if you want to compare LD and TH, you should use the argument 1 WC + 3 AE >> 2 AG as TH also has one WC.

I just read from Kompas.com, actually when LD won AE (04, 06 and 07), TH was absent, he did not participate in AE from 2005-2007...
So, actually LD can only won 1 (where TH participated in AE).... :)

"Taufik, finalis All England pada 1999 dan 2000, yang berharap dapat memenangi gelar juara turnamen tertua tersebut, termasuk tahun ini setelah absen pada 2005-2007. Tahun lalu, Taufik tersingkir di perempatfinal setelah kalah dari pemain Malaysia Lee Chong Wei."

(http://olahraga.kompas.com/read/xml/2009/03/06/09175447/big.match.hari.ini.taufik.vs.gade)

[george@chongwei]

it will surely be an classic once again.
the match between peter and taufik later;)

[jasonmarc]

TH was not fully prepared in 2008.............now he is back........PG have to be very careful......TH is a hungry tiger........

[jutawin]

TH was not fully prepared in 2008.............now he is back........PG have to be very careful......TH is a hungry tiger........
With no teeth??

[koo_fan]

With no teeth??
Aduh...hungry tiger without teeth.sure will lose 1st battle.

And taufik had amazingly survive.
So, who dare to say so?

[Destricto_Ense]

Streaming starts at 5.00pm http://planetbadminton.tv/livestream/
TH v PG is on court 2, it's the third match.. probably start around half six. I imagine that the English WD pair will get dispatched pretty quickly, wish I was there to hear the crowd moaning ;D

[jutawin]

Aduh...hungry tiger without teeth.sure will lose 1st battle.

And taufik had amazingly survive.
So, who dare to say so?
Taufik still has CLAW..

[jutawin]

but you say in Olympic...
so in AE wont happen...
HABISLAH, Taufik.....:D:D:D
in All England, who beats Lindan, he is the Champion..

[X Ball]

LCW will be the ultimate winner -- he is just revving up !

[koo_fan]

LCW will be the ultimate winner -- he is just revving up !
X ball came back again!

[jasonmarc]

LCW will be the ultimate winner -- he is just revving up !

But....I dont see that in first 2 rounds...........:(

I saw....very good form PG......LD.......and very dangerous TH......only.....;)

[Dr. Evil]

How is Taufik dangerous? 3 set against HYH and Andrew Smith. Not exactly top of the heap. Of course if he has been holding back in the previous match, today he will have to unleashed everything against Peter who suprisingly is playing better than he did 2 years ago.

[jasonmarc]

How is Taufik dangerous? 3 set against HYH and Andrew Smith. Not exactly top of the heap. Of course if he has been holding back in the previous match, today he will have to unleashed everything against Peter who suprisingly is playing better than he did 2 years ago.

This is the part that he is dangerous......when hold back .........and control the previous two matches.......................and suddently unleashed 100%....i think PG.........will find him very hard to handle.....today....:cool:

[ctjcad]

Indra, please stop making up stuff. I saw Taufik play the last two days and he had nothing that I haven't seen from him before. Besides, that back brace of his is hardly going to help him to shake his hips, is it?
..well, you should read indra's other posts and you'll find out he's hands down, bar none and no-doubt-about-it Taufik's biggest promoter..:cool:

I just read from Kompas.com, actually when LD won AE (04, 06 and 07), TH was absent, he did not participate in AE from 2005-2007...
So, actually LD can only won 1 (where TH participated in AE).... :)
...
..so, whose fault is it if Taufik didn't participate in those AEs?? Did LinDan tell him to stay home??:confused:
Taufik also won titles (which have been very few and in between) without LinDan's presence, so should we discount those titles as well?:confused:

[whp90]

..well, you should read indra's other posts and you'll find out he's hands down, bar none and no-doubt-about-it Taufik's biggest promoter..:cool:

..so, whose fault is it if Taufik didn't participate in those AEs?? Did LinDan tell him to stay home??:confused:
Taufik also won titles (which have been very few and in between) without LinDan's presence, so should we discount those titles as well?:confused:

Any statistic that when TH won tourney, LD was absent (only in Major title such as AE, AG, OC, WC) ? :)
At least this will give a clue to cooler :)

[ctjcad]

Any statistic that when TH won tourney, LD was absent (only in Major title such as AE, AG, OC, WC) ? :)
At least this will give a clue to cooler :)
..answer is no (cooler knows that).
..for more stats, see here:
http://internationalbadminton.org/player_info.asp?playerid=10337
Scarce titles for Taufik. Last "significant one" (in terms big prize money) was the 2006 Indonesia Open, a tourney which LinDan has avoided like a plague (i believe since 2005)..
http://internationalbadminton.org/player_info.asp?playerid=50906
Heck, as a matter of fact, Taufik had missed quite a few tourneys where LinDan had won. Should we discount those titles won by LinDan, as well??:confused:
Again, the Asian Games, Commonwealth Games are debatable "big tourneys" (i've already given the reasons). The only 3 "big ones" that really count are the:
1. All England
2. Olympics
3. World Championships
4. Maybe the Grand Prix Final (which occurred prior to 2000). Last yr's version of the Super Series Masters Finale.

[ye333]

I think TH missed 2005 AE due to injury, so this one is no one's fault. He got married in 2006 and argued with PBSI in 2007, so these two are arguably TH's faults.

Also, in fact, TH won quite a few titles beating LD along the way: 2004 Indonesia MSSF TH 2:1 LD, 2005 Singapore MSSF TH 2:0 LD, 2005 WC MSF TH 2:0 LD, 2006 AG MSF TH 2:0 LD. I am not sure whether there are other tournaments in which TH won but LD was beaten by some other player.



..so, whose fault is it if Taufik didn't participate in those AEs?? Did LinDan tell him to stay home??:confused:
Taufik also won titles (which have been very few and in between) without LinDan's presence, so should we discount those titles as well?:confused:

[pjswift]

I think TH missed 2005 AE due to injury, so this one is no one's fault. He got married in 2006 and argued with PBSI in 2007, so these two are arguably TH's faults.

Also, in fact, TH won quite a few titles beating LD along the way: 2004 Indonesia MSSF TH 2:1 LD, 2005 Singapore MSSF TH 2:0 LD, 2005 WC MSF TH 2:0 LD, 2006 AG MSF TH 2:0 LD. I am not sure whether there are other tournaments in which TH won but LD was beaten by some other player.
Yes, you're right. It used to be only TH could beat LD,then along came LCW.Now possibly even PG can be trouble with MF as coach.PG's changed tactics in KO09 gave LCW expensive education.

[ctjcad]

I think TH missed 2005 AE due to injury, so this one is no one's fault. He got married in 2006 and argued with PBSI in 2007, so these two are arguably TH's faults.

Also, in fact, TH won quite a few titles beating LD along the way: 2004 Indonesia MSSF TH 2:1 LD, 2005 Singapore MSSF TH 2:0 LD, 2005 WC MSF TH 2:0 LD, 2006 AG MSF TH 2:0 LD. I am not sure whether there are other tournaments in which TH won but LD was beaten by some other player.
1. As our DinkAlot likes to write : Egg-zachary!..Well, it's not really Taufik's "fault", but it's definitely not LD's "fault" either..;)

2. No doubt Taufik had won over LD several times....but so had LD over Taufik.
Point is, someone earlier mentioned "If Taufik wins this AE, he will be the greatest badminton player in the history"....Really??? Based on??...:confused: :p

[george@chongwei]

may the best men on court wins later;)

[jutawin]

Just wait n see lah.............

[cooler]

1. As our DinkAlot likes to write : Egg-zachary!..Well, it's not really Taufik's "fault", but it's definitely not LD's "fault" either..;)

2. No doubt Taufik had won over LD several times....but so had LD over Taufik.
Point is, someone earlier mentioned "If Taufik wins this AE, he will be the greatest badminton player in the history"....Really??? Based on??...:confused: :p
- based on his 7 vaporware tricks
- based on his illusional or delusional fan base:p
- based on his ability to play like half his age (ie 13 yes old)
- based on number of time TH beat LD but disregarding the number more times LD beat TH.

[ye333]

My guess is: based on LD has not won AG yet (call it bias or not).



2. No doubt Taufik had won over LD several times....but so had LD over Taufik.
Point is, someone earlier mentioned "If Taufik wins this AE, he will be the greatest badminton player in the history"....Really??? Based on??...:confused: :p

[cooler]

Yes, you're right. It used to be only TH could beat LD,then along came LCW.Now possibly even PG can be trouble with MF as coach.PG's changed tactics in KO09 gave LCW expensive education.lets get real, practically all of the ten top have beaten LD before: lcw, pg, psh, simon s, soni k, lhi, RS, CJ, BCL, CH, etc Having TH beating LD before doesn't make him more special.

[cooler]

My guess is: based on LD has not won AG yet (call it bias or not).
Don't forget LD also has not won IO, commonwealth, european, US open, Canada open, etc either.:rolleyes:

[ye333]

There is one difference. The LD TH beats is a solid World No.1; The TH LD beats is a player who loses to PG, Sony, Simon, CJ, LCW, BCL, and many others. :cool:


- based on his 7 vaporware tricks
- based on his illusional or delusional fan base:p
- based on his ability to play like half his age (ie 13 yes old)
- based on number of time TH beat LD but disregarding the number more times LD beat TH.

[ye333]

That's why I say "call it bias or not".


Don't forget LD also has not won IO, commonwealth, european, US open, Canada open, etc either.:rolleyes:

[phaarix]

- based on his illusional or delusional fan base

Delusional fan base? Based on what? A certain member making outrageous claims just for the fun of it? Delusional? :(

[ctjcad]

My guess is: based on LD has not won AG yet (call it bias or not).
..i understand it's probably based on the person's opinion, thus subjective.
It's not really bias or not bias. All i was wondering what is it based on??
But the prestige of AG has been debated many times, yes, based on the 2 reasons given. Some call the AG prestigious because it's a 4 yr event; but so is the Commonwealth Games.

[cooler]

There is one difference. The LD TH beats is a solid World No.1; The TH LD beats is a player who loses to PG, Sony, Simon, CJ, LCW, BCL, and many others. :cool:LOLOL what a....
I have posted this before to Pswfit. As a #1, it is very hard for LD to beat himself or beat a #0. LOLOLOLOL Thanks for showing us your great rationale. Hmmmm, TH has lost to Anup and joarcam before, that's pretty bad .... i say that's even worst than losing to PG, Sony, Simon, CJ, LCW, BCL, LOLOLOL

[phaarix]

..i understand it's probably based on the person's opinion, thus subjective.
It's not really bias or not bias. All i was wondering what is it based on??
But the prestige of AG has been debated many times, yes, based on the 2 reasons given. Some call the AG prestigious because it's a 4 yr event; but so is the Commonwealth Games.

Who plays in the Commonwealth Games? Lee Chong Wei? Yeah that's about it... Who doesn't play in the Asian Games (and would have a realistic chance)? I can only think of Peter Gade ;) (sorry if I'm missing someone obvious). So it's not really just the fact that it's every four years is it? It's also not a tournament that the top payers tend to skip... Seeing that they're also there to play for their country.

[cooler]

..i understand it's probably based on the person's opinion, thus subjective.
It's not really bias or not bias. All i was wondering what is it based on??
But the prestige of AG has been debated many times, yes, based on the 2 reasons given. Some call the AG prestigious because it's a 4 yr event; but so is the Commonwealth Games.
to me, and in the head to head record, LD had beaten TH twice in 06 AG already.:D

[phaarix]

... joarcam...

Who :D??? If you mean Joachim, I don't think he's the 6th seed for nothing!

[jutawin]

I think this thread is closed, if Taufik lose today..

[ctjcad]

Who plays in the Commonwealth Games? Lee Chong Wei? Yeah that's about it... Who doesn't play in the Asian Games (and would have a realistic chance)? I can only think of Peter Gade ;) (sorry if I'm missing someone obvious). So it's not really just the fact that it's every four years is it? It's also not a tournament that the top payers tend to skip... Seeing that they're also there to play for their country.
..both tourneys are highly rated and where top players don't skip to participate, then why doesn't the BWF sanctioned the Asian and Commonwealth Games, like the Olympics??..:confused:
Again, there have been many discussions on the prestige of the Asian (and Commonwealth) Games before..;)

[cooler]

Who :D??? If you mean Joachim, I don't think he's the 6th seed for nothing!*cough* when joachim beat TH, Joachim wasn't a 6th seeder:rolleyes: By your logic, Anup is now ranked 32th, lol Yup, joachim is so out of my radar screen that i hardly know his name:p

[phaarix]

..and where top players don't skip to participate, then why doesn't the BWF sanctioned the Asian and Commonwealth Games??..
Again, there have been many discussions on the prestige of the Asian (and Commonwealth) Games.

There's really no right or wrong. There are clearly many ways of seeing it. It's endlessly debatable :).

[phaarix]

*cough* when joachim beat TH, Joachim wasn't a 6th seeder:rolleyes: By your logic, Anup is now ranked 32th, lol Yup, joachim is so out of my radar screen that i hardly know his name:p

So, uhh... how did he get to be 6th seed again? By being terrible before he got there :cool:? Heh...

[cooler]

There's really no right or wrong. There are clearly many ways of seeing it. It's endlessly debatable :).coz for TH fans, that's the only edge they have on LD now. Wow, what an edge, lol. If that make u feel warm and fuzzy, go ahead, clung onto your AG medal. I'll take an AE or any other open title anyday.

[ctjcad]

There's really no right or wrong. There are clearly many ways of seeing it. It's endlessly debatable :).
..we only take into consideration the top 3 "major" tourneys as "prestigious", and not the AG or Commonwealth Games, because of 2 reasons (besides other reasons):
1. All players are involved and
2. They are all BWF sanctioned events.
Those 3 events are "no doubters"..
Now, if BWF were to change their mind and
1. Sanction the AG and Commonwealth Games as well as
2. Allow all players to compete, then we can consider them as "prestigious". But then again, what is the realistic chance of that happening, esp. to the latter possibility??..;)

[Dr. Evil]

coz for TH fans, that's the only edge they have on LD now. Wow, what an edge, lol. If that make u feel warm and fuzzy, go ahead, clung onto your AG medal. I'll take an AE or any other open title anyday.

Speak for yourself cause the only thing I can see from all your post is sucking up to Lindan

[phaarix]

coz for TH fans, that's the only edge they have on LD now. Wow, what an edge, lol. If that make u feel warm and fuzzy, go ahead, clung to your AG medal. I'll take an AE or any other open title anyday.

Like I said, there's clearly different ways of seeing it. Here's a clear example of one :). No point arguing about it.

[cooler]

Speak for yourself cause the only thing I can see from all your post is sucking up to LindanOooo, so no sucking sounds from your back end huh? Don't i recall Dr. Evil is famous for sucking up?

I only presented facts, u can call it sucking up if u want. There are more clearer heads in this forum than u think.

[phaarix]

..we only take into consideration the top 3 "major" tourneys as "prestigious", and not the AG or Commonwealth Games, because of 2 reasons (besides other reasons):
1. All players are involved and
2. They are all sanctioned events.
Those 3 events are "no doubters"..
Now, if BWF were to change their mind and
1. Sanctioned the AG and Commonwealth Games as well as
2. Allow all players to compete, then we can consider them as "prestigious". But then again, what is the realistic chance of that happening, esp. to the latter possibility??..;)

Little doubt about the top 3. But it doesn't mean anything "less" than that has no prestige.

[Dr. Evil]

Oooo, so no sucking sounds from your back end huh? Don't i recall Dr. Evil is famous for sucking up?

I only presented facts, u can call it sucking up if u want. There are more clearer heads in this forum than u think.


What a joke. And I suppose your any open >>> AG is fact. Its just a freaking opinion. Common fanboy failure.

I don't which universe you pop up from, in this reality, Dr. Evil does not suck up. Phailure again. tsk tsk tsk.

[ctjcad]

Little doubt about the top 3. But it doesn't mean anything "less" than that has no prestige.
Top 3 events have little or no doubt(s) on their prestige..
AG and Commonwealth Games have more doubts on their prestige..Those 2 reasons given should be enough, don't they??..
Which one would you choose/consider??..
;)
There are of course other reasons which make those top 3 events more "prestigious" than the others..

[cooler]

What a joke. And I suppose your any open >>> AG is fact. Its just a freaking opinion. Common fanboy failure.

I don't which universe you pop up from, in this reality, Dr. Evil does not suck up. Phailure again. tsk tsk tsk.your tactic involve changing subject.
u said i suck up to LD
i said i presented facts on LD

in case u missed the facts

LD can not beat someone ranked higher coz he is at the top
It is normal for top player to lose to someone ranked close to him.
LD beat TH twice already in the same week of Dec 2006 AG
LD had won more titles and more opens than TH
TH only edge on LD is the debateable prestige of AG's

Where are your facts??

btw, Dr Evil sucks his pinky that reminds him of his...

[Dr. Evil]

Top 3 events have little or no doubt(s) on their prestige..
AG and Commonwealth Games have more doubts on their prestige..Those 2 reasons given should be enough, don't they??..
Which one would you choose/consider??..
;)
There are of course other reasons which make those top 3 events more "prestigious" than the others..


Maybe yes, maybe no but in the end, it is still an opinion. But when you present opinion as fact, you fail instantly. Simple as that.

[ctjcad]

..facts and opinions are you referring to??..please enlighten..:cool:

[phaarix]

AG and Commonwealth Games have more doubts on their prestige..
Which one would you choose/consider??..

I agree, that is why I said it's just a matter of opinion. Personally I think the AG has a certain amount of prestige. But hey that's just me :) (and others, but not everyone - and that's fair enough). I'm not going to go into "why" for yet another thread. That will only lead to people telling me why I'm "wrong". And I can't really be bothered with that. Commonwealth? Clearly not... But who really DOES consider the Commonwealth Games prestigious :p...

[volcom]

your tactic involve changing subject.
u said i suck up to LD
i said i presented facts on LD

in case u missed the facts

LD can not beat someone ranked higher coz he is at the top
It is normal for top player to lose to someone ranked close to him.
LD beat TH twice already in the same week of Dec 2006 AG
LD had won more titles and more opens than TH
TH only edge on LD is the debateable prestige of AG's

Where are your facts??

btw, Dr Evil sucks his pinky that reminds him of his...


ahhhaha that is a bit nasty.... :o

[cooler]

I agree, that is why I said it's just a matter of opinion. Personally I think the AG has a certain amount of prestige. But hey that's just me :) (and others, but not everyone - and that's fair enough). I'm not going to go into "why" for yet another thread. That will only lead to people telling me why I'm "wrong". And I can't really be bothered with that. Commonwealth? Clearly not... But who really DOES consider the Commonwealth Games prestigious :p...well, if u see 'copying the torch run from the olympic game' as "prestigious", i guess your standard is way too high for us to comprehend:cool:

[phaarix]

I only presented facts...

OBJECTION!!

So you say you have only presented facts hmm? Quite a claim... I take it these are some of your "facts":


It became a bore to keep beating TH in the same week i tell ya.

because LD and LCW dont treat AG as a serious title.

Don't tell me those AG is harder to get than Opens because it is the opposite.

[cooler]

ahhhaha that is a bit nasty.... :ohey, just trying to keep this thread interesting for our viewing members over those same old same old 'i got AG title' rhetoric

[ctjcad]

I agree, that is why I said it's just a matter of opinion. Personally I think the AG has a certain amount of prestige. But hey that's just me :) (and others, but not everyone - and that's fair enough). I'm not going to go into "why" for yet another thread. That will only lead to people telling me why I'm "wrong". And I can't really be bothered with that. Commonwealth? Clearly not... But who really DOES consider the Commonwealth Games prestigious :p...
Would you consider a tournament "prestigious" without the presence of Gade, T. Rasmussen and all the other European/Commonwealth players participating?
Would you consider a tournament "prestigious" without the presence of LinDan, Taufik, LCW and all the other Asian players (yes, i know they make up the majority of the top players) participating?
If the answer to both is other than a "Yes", then that's the whole point on the discussion on whether we should include the AG and Commonwealth Games along with the AE, WC and Olympics.

[phaarix]

well, if u see 'copying the torch run from the olympic game' as "prestigious", i guess your standard is way too high for us to comprehend:cool:

Gosh aren't you picky? And how relevant the torch run is to the badminton tournament :). Grasping at straws there my friend!

[Dr. Evil]

your tactic involve changing subject.
u said i suck up to LD
i said i presented facts on LD

in case u missed the facts

LD can not beat someone ranked higher coz he is at the top
It is normal for top player to lose to someone ranked close to him.
LD beat TH twice already in the same week of Dec 2006 AG
LD had won more titles and more opens than TH
TH only edge on LD is the debateable prestige of AG's

Where are your facts??

btw, Dr Evil sucks his pinky that reminds him of his...


This is great. Failure again. Why am I not surprise. When did I ever said Taufik >>>>>> Lindan. Lindan have been a dominating force in badminton for some time now and I acknowledge that. So your entire paragraph above = complete failure.


However going on and on about Lindan greatness in a thread dedicated to Taufik........... well if that is not sucking up, I don't know what is.

Also, if you can't differenciate between sucking up and sucking pinky finger........... ahhh lets just not get into that.

[phaarix]

Would you consider a tournament "prestigious" without the presence of Gade, T. Rasmussen and all the other European/Commonwealth players participating?
Would you consider a tournament "prestigious" without the presence of LinDan, Taufik, LCW and all the other Asian players (yes, i know they make up the majority of the top players) participating?
That's the whole point of discussion on whether we should include the AG and Commonwealth Games along with the AE, WC and Olympics.

Tine Rasmussen doesn't play Mens Singles I'm afraid :). "All the others" doesn't cut it for me. Gade is the only one I'd bother mentioning as a title contender. Maybe I'm not being too clear. No I don't think it should be included alongside the AE, WC and OG. But I don't think it should be ignored as a major achievement.

Anyway the important thing is... I'm not trying to convince anyone to change their mind. There are those that do consider it to be a major tournament and those that don't. It's just the way I see it.

[cooler]

Gosh aren't you picky? And how relevant the torch run is to the badminton tournament :). Grasping at straws there my friend!i guess u missed my satirical remark on the prestigious AG:rolleyes:

[volcom]

hey, just trying to keep this thread interesting for our viewing members over those same old same old 'i got AG title' rhetoric
hehe yeah I was falling asleep as it's nearly 4am here until I read that :p

[Dr. Evil]

..facts and opinions are you referring to??..please enlighten..:cool:


Geez....... okay

Taufik won 2004 Olympic gold medal = fact
Lindan won 2008 Olympic gold medal = fact

Any open >>>> Asian games = opinion

[ctjcad]

Tine Rasmussen doesn't play Mens Singles I'm afraid :). "All the others" doesn't cut it for me. Gade is the only one I'd bother mentioning as a title contender. Maybe I'm not being too clear. No I don't think it should be included alongside the AE, WC and OG. But I don't think it should be ignored as a major achievement.

Anyway the important thing is... I'm not trying to convince anyone to change their mind. There are those that do consider it to be a major tournament and those that don't. It's just the way I see it.
AG and Commonwealth Games as major achievements, okay, perhaps.
AG and Commonwealth Games as "prestigious", erm, maybe not.

*Tine is just an example of a top player participating. Don't want to bring out the whole marching band, ya know..;)

Geez....... okay

Taufik won 2004 Olympic gold medal = fact
Lindan won 2008 Olympic gold medal = fact

Any open >>>> Asian games = opinion
..who's discussing about any other Opens tourneys' "prestige"??..And that's a whole different discussion altogether..

[phaarix]

i guess u missed my satirical remark on the prestigious AG:rolleyes:

I don't know what you're talking about :(.

[cooler]

This is great. Failure again. Why am I not surprise. When did I ever said Taufik >>>>>> Lindan. Lindan have been a dominating force in badminton for some time now and I acknowledge that. So your entire paragraph above = complete failure.


However going on and on about Lindan greatness in a thread dedicated to Taufik........... well if that is not sucking up, I don't know what is.

Also, if you can't differenciate between sucking up and sucking pinky finger........... ahhh lets just not get into that.
hey, i wasn't the first or second person who bought up LD. I wasn't the person who first talk about AG. I was only making replies, corrective replies.

[phaarix]

AG and Commonwealth Games as major achievements, okay.
AG and Commonwealth Games as "prestigious", erm, maybe not.

*Tine is just an example of a top player participating. Don't want to bring out the whole marching band..;)

Hehe, yeah fair enough, I was just being needlessly picky :p. Anyway I probably just worded it wrong. I think you know what I mean by "major" now too by the sounds of it.

[phaarix]

hey, i wasn't the first or second person who bought up LD. I wasn't the person who first talk about AG. I was only making replies, corrective replies.

OBJECTION!!

Your first reply of the thread included:


TH is lucky this time too, he wont face any chinese until the final.

If it's not Lin Dan it's Chinese players. Always in an attempt to bring down Taufik ;). If it wasn't for the fact you do the same thing in every thread I would hardly notice :rolleyes:.

You have a lot of negative things to say about TH fans. But I think deep down inside... you wouldn't enjoy your time in BC half as much without them :).

[cooler]

OBJECTION!!

Your first reply of the thread included:



If it's not Lin Dan it's Chinese players. Always in an attempt to bring down Taufik ;). If it wasn't for the fact you do the same thing in every thread I would hardly notice :rolleyes:.

You have a lot of negative things to say about TH fans. But I think deep down inside... you wouldn't enjoy your time in BC half as much without them :).
wow, u couldn't nail me on first on LD so u extends it to all the chinese. :rolleyes:

maybe TH has alot of negative things to talk about that TH fans don't talk about:rolleyes:

[phaarix]

wow, u couldn't nail me on first on LD so u extends it to all the chinese. :rolleyes:

Haha fine then. It's still clear as day that you're only here to stir things up!

[Dr. Evil]

hey, i wasn't the first or second person who bought up LD. I wasn't the person who first talk about AG. I was only making replies, corrective replies.

Does it really matter if you are the first or second person who brought up Lindan? And I suppose a statement like "LD and LCW don't treat AG seriously" is corrective replies. You were shooting blanks just to make an arguement.

Look, we can go on and on until tomorrow and I can bet you won't back down even after getting pawn badly. Ultimately what I wanted to say is, its perfectly all right to support whatever player you like. However, nobody like trolls. You never see me in a Lindan thread saying crap about Lindan did ya.

[cooler]

Haha fine then. It's still clear as day that you're only here to stir things up!i repeat, i'm here to make corrective postings:rolleyes:

[phaarix]

i repeat, i'm here to make corrective postings:rolleyes:

Thanks Mr. Policeman! It's good to see your name in italics!

Ahem... anyway I'd better go... getting ridiculous now :).

[cooler]

Does it really matter if you are the first or second person who brought up Lindan? And I suppose a statement like "LD and LCW don't treat AG seriously" is corrective replies. You were shooting blanks just to make an arguement.

Look, we can go on and on until tomorrow and I can bet you won't back down even after getting pawn badly. Ultimately what I wanted to say is, its perfectly all right to support whatever player you like. However, nobody like trolls. You never see me in a Lindan thread saying crap about Lindan did ya.
i don't restrict u where u can post. What u say or not say about LD is independent what i can post in BF. BTW, i have been trolling here since 2001. I have seen many come and gone, u r no special troll yourself.

[Dr. Evil]

Correction. I'm no troll so you fail again. Well confirming the fact that you have been trolling since 2001 does enlighten me a little. Basically it means you have no life. What a complete loser. Bye.

[cooler]

Correction. I'm no troll so you fail again. Well confirming the fact that you have been trolling since 2001 does enlighten me a little. Basically it means you have no life. What a complete loser. Bye.geez, u care about my life, so touching:rolleyes: Read my profile, i get paid for surfing and reading fan mails, and hunting for certain crystals. :rolleyes:

[Destricto_Ense]

i have been trolling here since 2001.
Finally, you admit it! :D

[Destricto_Ense]

I think Taufik has answered the title of this thread.. he was superb against Gade. I would still fancy Lin Dan over Taufik but Hidayat has shown his commitment and it is possible that he will improve even further.

Maybe Indra was right :P

[Wong8Egg]

Congrats to TH's victory over PG. Only 2 more steps from Gold, two big steps....

[madbad]

TH did look good as PG did look average. Not taking anything way from TH's win, he still has to clear a major hurdles before he can start thinking about LD