My thoughts on the AE so far.

[Destricto_Ense]

This isn't to do with the matches, just the background to the event.

Mostly complaints right now :P

"Yonex Retail Village". If this is not secretly hidden away somewhere outside the main building, then it's the bunch of rubbish stalls strung out along the corridors outside the stands. The only new product that I have seen is the Nanospeed 9900, no sign of any new Yonex clothes, nor their new shuttle the Mavis M 2000P.

Food is terrible :cool:

NO PHOTOGRAPHY :mad:
I was really looking forward to recording matches and posting them up for you guys to watch, specifically in the same way Loopy did with his great HD video of the French Open back in 2006 (TH vs LD). I brought one camera for recording video, and one for taking photos, and I can use neither of them.

The seats are absolutely tiny..


Other than that, it's great to be here.. now if only I weren't half-blind too :p

[Dreamzz]

oh, someone should have mentioned you're not allowed to bring cameras in.
you can sneak them in though, i have, they are pretty lax as they will only check your bag.
they don't check your pockets or jacket.

[Destricto_Ense]

I know, they actually let me in with the two cameras in my bag and just told me not to use them.. but I have seen people being told off by stewards for taking cameras out. I think it's just so people don't distract the players by using flashes. Anyway, I'd need to take my tripod out if I were recording video and there's no way that that would be missed :(

[demolidor]

:). What stark contrast to the Dutch Open where you can pretty much do what you want. I used their power oulets, set up a tripod and even filmed all the finals whilst they were broadcasted on tv with Gill Clark doing to commentary a few rows up behind me :D.
Oh yeah you didn't really expect the japanese catalogue shirts to be there did you? At best it'll be the ones mentioned in the other thread that were updated on the german yonex site.

[Destricto_Ense]

I wanted to buy this shirt - http://shuttle-house.com/PAGE_top_JAPANESE/MAIL_ORDER/category/YONEX/GAMESY/12025_b.jpg
Taufik's been wearing it since the French Open last year, it's hardly brand new by now..

[huangkwokhau]

I wanted to buy this shirt - http://shuttle-house.com/PAGE_top_JAPANESE/MAIL_ORDER/category/YONEX/GAMESY/12025_b.jpg
Taufik's been wearing it since the French Open last year, it's hardly brand new by now..
Mostly players wear NEW ones before mechandising out to public....unless you get it from players or steal it from them....:D..I had one last january

[Dreamzz]

you stole one last january?
how dare you!

[george@chongwei]

this thread could be become a sidenews in this tournament too:cool:
rudy??:p
except u steal it, what more can u share with us now?:p

[huangkwokhau]

you stole one last january?
how dare you!
:D:D...with eyes wide open............

[george@chongwei]

:D:D...with eyes wide open............
add: with LOOOONG hands:D

[Destricto_Ense]

According to the Yonex catalogue I picked up, the Mavis 2000 will be available in August. Good thing I'm ordering them from Shuttle-house then.

Also, Lin Dan is kinda smaller than I expected.

[cooler]

According to the Yonex catalogue I picked up, the Mavis 2000 will be available in August. Good thing I'm ordering them from Shuttle-house then.

Also, Lin Dan is kinda smaller than I expected.i hope u didnt met him in the washroom:p
:D

[badadum]

According to the Yonex catalogue I picked up, the Mavis 2000 will be available in August. Good thing I'm ordering them from Shuttle-house then.

Also, Lin Dan is kinda smaller than I expected.

LD is only 177-178cm (less than 6ft), much taller than average Chinese but he would be about average/below average for most Europeans/Americans. Seldom see tall lanky Asian players ala BCL or HH.

[Destricto_Ense]

Yeah, from seeing him in recordings I expected him to be over 6ft. I guess it's his huge shoulders.

[ctjcad]

..and hopefully less complaints, to share with us??..;)

[Destricto_Ense]

Heh. Today was much better in terms of the spectacle. The number of courts in play shrank from 5 to 3, so that if you sat in the middle you could see well what was going on all courts. The lights were also dimmed over the stands which meant it looked very atmospheric (I have a few fairly poor photos that I'll upload in a few hours) and it was easy to see the shuttle as a brilliant white spot against the black background.

I did make it out of bed in time to see LCW vs. Zweibler. It was a very good match. LCW seemed to find it difficult to get over the fact that there was someone else who was just as good at getting around the court - as someone behind me put it "To Lee Chong Wei, there is no 'not making it to the shuttle'". So Marc got around the court very well, and put in some good shots himself, but LCW eventually got himself together and put an end to Zweibler's hopes of an upset.

I also saw Chen Jin vs Gong Weijie. Now that was a mismatch if I ever saw one. I'm guessing that they're friends or something, because the scenario that happened was one that I'm familiar with myself- I'm used to playing with a friend and hitting tricky shots but shots that he can always return, and if I ever play a match against him then I can't seem to switch my mindset to one in which I have to finish him off, even if I'm well ahead (although Gong was never ahead..). In Gong Weijie's case, he didn't seem used to playing 100% competitively against a team mate, and his lack of experience made it a very easy victory for the All England holder Chen.

My final match of the day was 'Taufik Hidayat of Indonesia, and Andrew Smith.. from ENGLAND! :)', as the intercom lady put it. Smith seemed pretty focussed when he came out, which contrasted with his outfit. He seriously looked like he was going to a beach party. Blue orange and white top and blue shorts.
Anyway, Taufik again repeated his bad habits from yesterday - lifting to mid court, and returning net shots to opponents who were right in front of him waiting to smash it in his face. Smith took the first game and Taufik looked a bit dazed.
Hidayat came out in the second game playing better than before, but still not at his best. The game was fairly even at the start but then Taufik pulled away and won. Smith tried to retain his confidence from the start of the match in the final set, but Taufik was on a roll and won it well. A cheering crowd (ie me) saluted Taufik as he walked from the courts.

Phew.

[ctjcad]

..you were finally able to take some pics! Looking fw to them.:cool:
So, anymore matches to share?? Or those were the only ones worth sharing??..

[Destricto_Ense]

They were pretty much the only ones I paid much attention too. I saw XXF playing someone in very very lazy way. It seemed like XXF didn't think it was worth playing the person and beat her pretty easily.

I'll upload a couple of photos now (be warned, they're all terrible).

[Destricto_Ense]

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Erm, yeah, out of 55 photos taken, only these 6 were sort of OK and in focus. It was a pretty tough place to take photos in, because the lights on the players were so bright, and I had to hide my camera from the stewards!

[jutawin]

They were pretty much the only ones I paid much attention too. I saw XXF playing someone in very very lazy way. It seemed like XXF didn't think it was worth playing the person and beat her pretty easily.

I'll upload a couple of photos now (be warned, they're all terrible).

Who is that someone?
Is she Adrianti Firdasari (Indonesia)?

[etudiant]

Who is that someone?
Is she Adrianti Firdasari (Indonesia)?

if its played yesterday (R2) of course its Firda...hehe...

[Destricto_Ense]

Sounds right, yeah. They were from Indonesia.

[No one]

I think what destricto said was spot on. IMO many of the MS games as a rule were quite boring: eg., BCL vs BCL, gong weijie vs chen jin, gade vs ng wei (the last because gade was just a class above).

What destricto said about the zweibler LCW game was right: zweibler is very similar in getting everything back (you can see this in his friench open game against ngyuen tien minh or against joppien on youtube). But it seemed to me LCW kept pushing zweibler on his backhand using a lot of flicks, and zweibler had quite a bit of trouble with this.

the taufik-smith game was ok. destricto is right: much of the blame goes to taufik's inconsistency. But I have to say (and I'm not english!) that I was actually quite impressed by andrew smith: he's gotten a lot better since I last saw him. But man, he needs to get rid of those terrible outfits.....

I was glad to see sho sazaki go through: he's so quick.

MD: this was pretty boring on the whole--most of the games were too quick--usually it was a case of one side being too strong or the other side just not being there mentally--eg., the japanese-danish game (a contrast with last year! ikeda was really disappointing this time around); the danish-german game; the chinese-korean game. The one game that was good ended prematurely--the danes against the malaysians because one of the danish players slipped and hurt his ankle badly--he was rolling about in pain and it looked nasty. I thought the fuzzies were really good: they looked quite worried for the danish player and one of them even picked the dane's racquet and put it away for him.

The highlights were really in the WS and XD, and there were many.


wang yihan vs zhou mi: 3 set game. I didn't watch much of this game but the third set was pretty exciting. WYH just kept pushing ZM and when it got to about 20-20 the fatigue really showed on Zhou Mi. There was one point soon after this when ZM was so tired she just stopped on court and let the shuttle fall--she was just too tired.

Yip pui yin vs wang lin: 3 set game. personally I felt the crowd rooting for YPY for 2 reasons: 1. the chinese women's singles team had basically won all day. 2. I think everyone just admired Yip's plucky spirit--she never gave up. the second set was pretty exciting, going 26-24 in Yip's favour. YPY was very quick, often getting to the net to reply to wang lin's drop shots with a neat cross court net shot of her own, usually pushing wang lin out of position. But then she would give her advantage away by making silly mistakes. In the third set I felt that YPY's deceptive jump-drops were becoming predictable, but it was still quite close the whole way.

Brosolat vs phy: 3 set game. Brosolat's slice drops just seemed to impossible for Pi to read, but whenever Brosolat tried something different, like a smash, the dane tended to hit it out. And once PHY started losing in the third game, she engaged in some psychological warfare by not returning the shuttle and taking her sweet time on court: which was fine, and brosolat retaliated by doing the same.

wallwork-white vs kristiansen-juhl: 2 sets. I'm not fond of the English but I thought wallwork was just brilliant in this game. She was quick, anticipated a lot. The English side spent most of their time attacking the weaker kristiansen and pressuring her, keeping the more dangerous juhl from getting the offensive. They didn't have to worry much: juhl played terribly when she had the chance (but she made up for it in her XD game against the chinese).


for me the top games were the XD games--because the underdogs played so well.

the indian-korean game: 3 set game. unfortunately it was going on quite far away from me but the indian male player had an unbelievable smash and he was very, very good at doing very fast flat drives. they fought every point and I think the koreans were quite surpised to lose 21-23. The second set the indians were really quite confident but the koreans pulled ahead. And the disappointment of losing the 2nd set really showed in the indian pair: both just seemed to lose their way and they lost I think 21-14.


limpele and russikh vs the British team of blair and bankier: 2 sets, but 6-24; 21-19! brilliant. Despite russikh getting called on her apparently high services several times--at least 5 times, I would say (and even the unflappable limpele seemed annoyed--he demonstrated on court to russikh how to serve!), this new team was brilliant. Russikh just got everything back and limpele was just too quick--he did a wonderful shot at the net which left the British running in the wrong direction! The British were good too: bankier was excellent at the net, often replying to russikh's netplay with her own netplay (instead of lifting), but I felt blair didn't do enough at the back.

[No one]

oh yeah and what everyone else said about the yonex stuff: ugh, what a ripoff. You would think that they would reduce prices a little more but no go. The camera rule is idiotic, but if you are going to enforce it, do so: I saw so many people pull out their camera and take photos/film. the stewards spent much of their time telling everyone to put their cameras away. It was just silly.

[ctjcad]

(rest of report snipped for brevity) ...Despite russikh getting called on her apparently high services several times--at least 5 times, I would say (and even the unflappable limpele seemed annoyed--he demonstrated on court to russikh how to serve!),
...
:)..With their partnership, Russkikh should really be taking advantage of Limpele's breadth of knowledge and expertise.
Thanks for sharing your report/experience with us, No one!:cool:

[Destricto_Ense]

The factory outlet was reasonably cheap. I got two tops for £30 total and then the All England shirt was £10 which is not bad. However, Shuttles and racquets were full price which is ridiculous.

[No one]

oops, the flandy-russikh game was 26-24, not 6-24....:rolleyes:

[No one]

also I completely misspelled Russkikh's name....

[eaglehelang]

also I completely misspelled Russkikh's name....

Thanks a lot for your courtside report, you're really Someone & not no one;);)

[pjswift]

Thanks ,No one and Destricto Ense(what a name! how did you coin it?) for your interesting and informative courtside reports.Do keep it coming.
Since you now know that camera owners outnumber the stewards, it's time to break the camera and video rule ,which are meant to be broken.
If the steward comes up to you, you can always point him in the direction of others with the flash or remind him he's blocking some spectators' view which would be even more offensive?
As for the video,use it! Don't AE organisers know you are helping them to maintain visibility and broadening the reach to the 'happening' netizen crowd of ?????(what's BC's population?) and counting.And doing all this for free and for the love of AE? (In Singapore,the interest in AE is not as high as before,that's why the silly Starhub cable TV decided to delay telecast the SF in favour of the boring Davis Cup.)

[cheeyf]

thx 4 sharing experience.btw did u watch ,wong/chin vs china?hw mqas wd play?thx

[robin7]

(.....)
for me the top games were the XD games--because the underdogs played so well. (.....)


Heh. Today was much better in terms of the spectacle. The number of courts in play shrank from 5 to 3, so that if you sat in the middle you could see well what was going on all courts. The lights were also dimmed over the stands which meant it looked very atmospheric (I have a few fairly poor photos that I'll upload in a few hours) and it was easy to see the shuttle as a brilliant white spot against the black background.
(.....)
Excellent stuff! Keep them coming...

[No one]

I probably could write more but I better not....the lin dan vs bao game was weird. You got no sense of how good BCL actually is. I couldn't figure out if he had been ordered to lose the game, was nervous because he was playing against LD, or was just outclassed by LD. In any case, it was a rotten match, because Bao kept making mistakes--or relatively more than LD, who I don't think made any! My impression of LD this time was that basically, he's number one because he almost never makes a mistake on court. (in previous times when I've seen him play, it's his explosiveness which really struck me).

some other impressions: blimey, mainlanders looooooooove cai yun, fu haifeng, lin dan and BCL. when FHF and CY won a mass of mainlanders rushed over for their autographs. It was a bit unseemly. but that's unfair. I'd definitely go all girly if I came face to face with BCL or peter gade or pi honghan too.... When LD won they all called out but LD didn't come over, he just waved.

At one point, when the chinese were playing the danish, the chinese were screaming out Go china! 中国队，加油！and the danes were chanting in their language, and then the chinese started chanting 中国队，加油！in the same tune as the danes. Later, the chinese were playing the koreans, and the koreans started up with their national chanting, and I heard one of the mainland chinese say, "damn, I wish I knew what the koreans were saying....". Later, the malaysian fans started calling out, 马来西亚,加油！ (malaysia! jia you!). The mainland chinese started laughing (in good spirit).

the malaysian crowd was particularly loud when julia wong was playing against xu huaiwen (another good game). Actually, one time they were chanting Malaysia, buleh! the one guy calling out 'Mah-lay-she-ya!' to which every would yell 'buleh!!' changed it and said 'julia!' and everyone went 'buleh' 3 times, and he suddenly said quietly 'Julia! I love you!!' and the most of our side started laughing.

[No one]

sorry can't say much about the julia wong game because it was on the far side. It did strike me that xu huaiwen was getting pulled out of position a lot because she had to do a lot of desperate backhand clears--the kind where you just can't quite get behind the shuttle so you have to leap to the backhand and whip your arm quickly, but the result is you get a high backhand but it's usually half court.

[cheeyf]

I probably could write more but I better not....the lin dan vs bao game was weird. You got no sense of how good BCL actually is. I couldn't figure out if he had been ordered to lose the game, was nervous because he was playing against LD, or was just outclassed by LD. In any case, it was a rotten match, because Bao kept making mistakes--or relatively more than LD, who I don't think made any! My impression of LD this time was that basically, he's number one because he almost never makes a mistake on court. (in previous times when I've seen him play, it's his explosiveness which really struck me).

some other impressions: blimey, mainlanders looooooooove cai yun, fu haifeng, lin dan and BCL. when FHF and CY won a mass of mainlanders rushed over for their autographs. It was a bit unseemly. but that's unfair. I'd definitely go all girly if I came face to face with BCL or peter gade or pi honghan too.... When LD won they all called out but LD didn't come over, he just waved.

At one point, when the chinese were playing the danish, the chinese were screaming out Go china! 中国队,加油!and the danes were chanting in their language, and then the chinese started chanting 中国队,加油!in the same tune as the danes. Later, the chinese were playing the koreans, and the koreans started up with their national chanting, and I heard one of the mainland chinese say, "damn, I wish I knew what the koreans were saying....". Later, the malaysian fans started calling out, 马来西亚,加油! (malaysia! jia you!). The mainland chinese started laughing (in good spirit).

the malaysian crowd was particularly loud when julia wong was playing against xu huaiwen (another good game). Actually, one time they were chanting Malaysia, buleh! the one guy calling out 'Mah-lay-she-ya!' to which every would yell 'buleh!!' changed it and said 'julia!' and everyone went 'buleh' 3 times, and he suddenly said quietly 'Julia! I love you!!' and the most of our side started laughing.

tat's nice
thx 4 sharing
i remember in mas open
d malay cheerleader keep saying gao ling wo ai ni(i lov u)
gao ling laugh
did u watch wong/chin match?hw they play?did china improve a lot or mas many mistake?thr's no smash winner in g2 at all.weird.what happen to ceh?:(

[No one]

I wanted to say to more than a few of the ladies at the AE 'wo ai ni' but I kept my thoughts to myself :rolleyes:....I didn't watch the wong/chin match I'm afraid...I usually don't watch WD games with the chinese in them because the chinese women are too strong, it's a little dull. From memory, I had gotten up for a walk because the games going on at the time were a little boring at the time--there was an all british affair (kinda dull) and also another chinese WD team playing a french team (who looked like little school girls in their weird white skirts). then when I came back it was Bao CL and LD on court, so my attention was focused there.

sorry, I should shut up now but the memories are coming back:D the MD ikeda vs paaske-rasmussen match was terribly dull. the first half of the first game was BORING. 3 shots and it was over on both sides. And the japanese never really got their game together--I was so disappointed because last year ikeda was on fire.

one funny thing: about 30 mins before the chen jin gong weijie game started their names were called out (totally mispronounced) to report somewhere. then 5 mins later they both came out and were walking to the courts in their tracksuits and with bags--but they clearly were lost and weren't supposed to be out there, because they're supposed to come out with the referees and line judges. So they made a half lap of the stadium and were wandering about for a couple of minutes before being stopped by officials who then took them away. you think they'd be assigned translators or some guide so this sort of thing wouldn't happen!

[phaarix]

one funny thing: about 30 mins before the chen jin gong weijie game started their names were called out (totally mispronounced) to report somewhere. then 5 mins later they both came out and were walking to the courts in their tracksuits and with bags--but they clearly were lost and weren't supposed to be out there, because they're supposed to come out with the referees and line judges. So they made a half lap of the stadium and were wandering about for a couple of minutes before being stopped by officials who then took them away. you think they'd be assigned translators or some guide so this sort of thing wouldn't happen!

Hehe... the things you don't see on TV :D. Thanks for sharing your experiences!

[Destricto_Ense]

Haha, I saw the CJ and GWJ thing too, it was kinda funny to seem them wandering around looking a bit lost.

[Destricto_Ense]

Did anyone else notice that half of the time the score boxes at the end of the courts were incorrect? In Taufik's match the umpire told him that he was standing on the wrong side for serving, but Taufik said that his score was 6 when the box said 5! A lot of the time it was lagging by a couple of points, which is really weird because the screen at the end of the hall always had the right score.

[cooler]

Haha, I saw the CJ and GWJ thing too, it was kinda funny to seem them wandering around looking a bit lost.i have said that having CJ, BCL, LD, GW jam together on one side of the ladder, it will be boring.

[Destricto_Ense]

Pardon? I don't see the connection between your comment and my post.

[sudirman]

looking forward to the SEMI tomorrow, 4 hours drive one way thoughj :)

[cooler]

Pardon? I don't see the connection between your comment and my post.ok, maybe it was No one's post

[Destricto_Ense]

looking forward to the SEMI tomorrow, 4 hours drive one way thoughj :)
You're so lucky.. still, planetbadminton.tv is a real blessing.

[Destricto_Ense]

Destricto Ense(what a name! how did you coin it?)
It's a quote from my favourite book - Stalky & Co. by Rudyard Kipling. In one particular scene, the character 'Beetle' (Based on Kipling himself) is described jokingly as advancing destricto ense. The Latin literally translates to "with sword drawn", but in the context is referring to Beetle holding a butterfly net that he has stolen from a younger student's locker. In my case I imagine the butterfly net to be replaced by a badminton racquet ;)

[sudirman]

You're so lucky.. still, planetbadminton.tv is a real blessing.

:) will bring some photos back.

[Destricto_Ense]

:) will bring some photos back.
Cheers. It's easy to smuggle cameras past the door stewards - just put your camera in a pocket of your bag that isn't the main one; it's the only compartment they check. Heck, I even had a tripod in my main compartment barely covered by a hoodie and they didn't notice it.

[No one]

Did anyone else notice that half of the time the score boxes at the end of the courts were incorrect? In Taufik's match the umpire told him that he was standing on the wrong side for serving, but Taufik said that his score was 6 when the box said 5! A lot of the time it was lagging by a couple of points, which is really weird because the screen at the end of the hall always had the right score.

yeah that was quite annoying. I started to get a crick in my neck from looking at the screen at the end of the hall....!

as for cameras, frankly I think door security didn't care much. I saw them let some people through with cameras provided 'they would not take pictures'. WTF! but in a way--fair enough. What if you bumped into some of the chinese team in the outer ring (ie., outside the actual courts and seats, where the yonex and other badminton companies' stands were) and wanted to take a photo of them? not all of us are blessed with high megapixel cameras in our cellphones....but it might be different if you brought in your digital SLR.

[Oldhand]

Destricto_Ense & No_one, you guys have made this thread a pleasure to read :)


[...]wallwork-white vs kristiansen-juhl: 2 sets. [...]
This gathering must have been the prettiest sight at the AE this year :D


[...]the indian-korean game: 3 set game. unfortunately it was going on quite far away from me but the indian male player had an unbelievable smash and he was very, very good at doing very fast flat drives. they fought every point and I think the koreans were quite surpised to lose 21-23. [...]
I've had the, er, pleasant misfortune of playing against Diju V, the Indian player. (His XD partner Jwala Gutta is Chetan Anand's wife.) Diju is quite an intimidating package - and has a nasty but effective habit of towering over the net when receiving serve :(

It's a pity that he has never had a tactical partner like, say, Cai Yun.
With the smash he has, he would have taken that pair much further.

Incidentally, the V in his name expands to 'Valiyaveettil', which literally means 'big house'! :D

[No one]

:) honestly Oldhand, my pleasure....my gf is totally not interested in this sort of thing so I have to talk about it somewhere!!

btw thanks for uploading the QF games. Great quality.

you played against diju?? I would have been shaking in my shoes......:D btw this is completely off point, but the dude had really skinny legs compared to a lot of doubles players--and I think jwala's thighs were bigger!!

[limsy]

:) honestly Oldhand, my pleasure....my gf is totally not interested in this sort of thing so I have to talk about it somewhere!!


hehe...fortunatelty...my gf is interested in badminton...hehe....:p

[bananakid]

hehe...fortunatelty...my gf is interested in badminton...hehe....:p

Did you name your computer, sally? Jennifer? or Diana???:rolleyes:
By the way, for your information, most so-called "girl" you see in the profile of someone you chat with online usually stand for "Guy In Real Life".:p

[limsy]

Did you name your computer, sally? Jennifer? or Diana???:rolleyes:
By the way, for your information, most so-called "girl" you see in the profile of someone you chat with online usually stand for "Guy In Real Life".:p

my gf is a BADMINTON PLAYER HERSELF....well...anyway....i dont have tat experience before....thank to tell us about ur experience in live...thumb up....:)...hope u learn from ur bad experience.....boy...ops...sorry....kid....:)

[bananakid]

my gf is a BADMINTON PLAYER HERSELF....well...anyway....i dont have tat experience before....thank to tell us about ur experience in live...thumb up....:)...hope u learn from ur bad experience.....boy...ops...sorry....kid....:)


So, this is the best come back you can come up with... disappointed.:crying:
You are not a worthy opponent at all.

I will find a chance to argue with Pjswift instead. more fun.:rolleyes:

[george@chongwei]

So, this is the best come back you can come up with... disappointed.:crying:
You are not a worthy opponent at all.

I will find a chance to argue with Pjswift instead. more fun.:rolleyes:
the truth spoken!:eek:
seems that thats your main intention in this forum?:rolleyes:

[george@chongwei]

wow, so many drama this time !;)
its getting hotter and hotter:D
anymore thoughts??;)

[Oldhand]

:) honestly Oldhand, my pleasure....my gf is totally not interested in this sort of thing so I have to talk about it somewhere!!

btw thanks for uploading the QF games. Great quality.

you played against diju?? I would have been shaking in my shoes......:D btw this is completely off point, but the dude had really skinny legs compared to a lot of doubles players--and I think jwala's thighs were bigger!!
That was just a chance encounter :o

If his lower half were built like, say, Zheng Bo or Zhang Jun, I don't think Diju would be able to get off the ground either frequently or effectively. The chap is already pretty heavy :D

[cooler]

Did you name your computer, sally? Jennifer? or Diana???:rolleyes:
By the way, for your information, most so-called "girl" you see in the profile of someone you chat with online usually stand for "Guy In Real Life".:pROFL...........