My ratings after AE, SO 2009 [Archive] - Badminton Central Discussion Forums

2cents

03-14-2009, 07:19 PM

MS:

Lin Dan (invincible)
Lee CW, Chen Jin (lost to LD only)
Taufik H (improved a lot, much stable than before, only lost to LCW. Usually it used to be not uncommon to see TH surrendered in the 1st or 2nd round before easily)
Bao CL (lost to CJ, LD), Peter Gade(lost to TH)
and many others (injury could be the reason)

WS:

Wang YH (unbeatable so far)
Tine Rasmussen
Jiang YJ
Zhou Mi, Lu Lan, Wang Lin, Xie XF
others

MD:

Cai Y/FHF, MB/CM, KKK/BHT
LYD/SBC, HSH/HJM, GZD/XC
others

WD:

Du Jing/Yu Yang, Zhang YW/ZTT, Chen S/Zhao YL
Pan Pan / Tian Q, Cheng WH/Chien/ YC, Lee HJ/Lee KW
Ha JE/Kim M, Chin EH/Wong PT
others

XD:

ZB/Ma J, He FB/Yu Y, Xu C/ZYL, Lee YD/Lee HJ
Flandy Limpele/AR, Nova W/Lili N, Xie ZB/Zhang YW
others

just my random thoughts based on personal impression, please criticize without mercy.

dassad

03-19-2009, 05:23 PM

i dont understand why world ratings didnt change a lot after these AE and SO (?)

koo_fan

03-19-2009, 06:18 PM

i dont understand why world ratings didnt change a lot after these AE and SO (?)
Has BWF alrealy listed out the new ranking ?

AlanY

03-19-2009, 06:32 PM

MS:

Lin Dan (invincible)
Lee CW, Chen Jin (lost to LD only)
Taufik H (improved a lot, much stable than before, only lost to LCW. Usually it used to be not uncommon to see TH surrendered in the 1st or 2nd round before easily)
Bao CL (lost to CJ, LD), Peter Gade(lost to TH)
and many others (injury could be the reason)

WS:
Wang YH (unbeatable so far)
Tine Rasmussen
Jiang YJ
Zhou Mi, Lu Lan, Wang Lin, Xie XF
others

MD:
Cai Y/FHF, MB/CM, KKK/BHT
LYD/SBC, HSH/HJM, GZD/XC
others

WD:
Du Jing/Yu Yang, Zhang YW/ZTT, Chen S/Zhao YL
Pan Pan / Tian Q, Cheng WH/Chien/ YC, Lee HJ/Lee KW
Ha JE/Kim M, Chin EH/Wong PT
others

XD:
ZB/Ma J, He FB/Yu Y, Xu C/ZYL, Lee YD/Lee HJ
Flandy Limpele/AR, Nova W/Lili N, Xie ZB/Zhang YW
others
just my random thoughts based on personal impression, please criticize without mercy.
MS:
i'm sure LCW is better than CJ but not quite to LD yet, and with TH's inconsistency i say;

1) LD
2) LCW
3) CJ, TH, BCL, PG
4) others

badMania

03-19-2009, 07:05 PM

MS:
Lin Dan (invincible)

Invincible??? If he's really invincible, he would have won the Swiss Super Series, despite performing at only 50-70%.

Dr. Evil

03-20-2009, 01:04 AM

In 2007, LCW played a lot of matches against Bao and Chen Jin. Now I can't even remember when they last play each other.

limsy

03-20-2009, 04:38 AM

In 2007, LCW played a lot of matches against Bao and Chen Jin. Now I can't even remember when they last play each other.

erm...yes...many matches....erm....none since 2009...but before tat...yes....;)

ye333

03-20-2009, 09:43 AM

Totally agree with this ranking. :)

MS:
i'm sure LCW is better than CJ but not quite to LD yet, and with TH's inconsistency i say;

1) LD
2) LCW
3) CJ, TH, BCL, PG
4) others

dassad

03-20-2009, 10:30 AM

Has BWF alrealy listed out the new ranking ?

and when it should be done?

george@chongwei

03-20-2009, 10:54 AM

and when it should be done?
just yesterday they had updated it;)
every thursday fyi;)

koo_fan

03-20-2009, 11:03 AM

hey...i guess LCW's still got his num 1 ranking. So, ok ler.

The rating is perhaps on Ld's side, not the ranking, eh

dassad

03-20-2009, 05:30 PM

just yesterday they had updated it;)
every thursday fyi;)

i compare this with last one, and see many "new" names at the top 10.
but the strange thing is LD's rating didnt change totally :confused::)
LCW has got 3000 points

george@chongwei

03-21-2009, 02:15 AM

i compare this with last one, and see many "new" names at the top 10.
but the strange thing is LD's rating didnt change totally :confused::)
LCW has got 3000 points
Lcw was the runner up last year.
ld was the winner last year;)

limsy

03-21-2009, 04:25 AM

rating and ranking is totally different...;)

dassad

03-21-2009, 05:15 AM

Lcw was the runner up last year.
ld was the winner last year;)

are you talking about SO? badminton ranking system working just like old tennis one, with comparisons to last-year results?
what with AE?

limsy

03-21-2009, 05:20 AM

are you talking about SO? badminton ranking system working just like old tennis one, with comparisons to last-year results?
what with AE?

read the post above u...ur own rating and bwf world ranking is totally different...;)

Siegfried_Li

03-22-2009, 04:31 AM

Well, I think Taufik is really playing good recently, he lost to LCW in the 1/4 of Swiss SS just because of the body. For me the ranking would be

MS:
1. Lin Dan (yes, unbeatable)
2. LCW / Taufik (it depends on Taufik's situation)
4. Gade / Chen Jin (Chen Jin is not killing at all... since long)
6. it does not make sense at all then

WS:
1. Wang Yihan
2. Jiang Yanjiao without injuries
3. Wang Lin / Tine Rasmussen
5. Pi Hongyan, Zhou Mi, Xie Xingfang and Lu Lan

MD:
1. MarkisHendra (I still regard them as a pair), CaiFu, KooTan
4. JungLee
5. it does not make sense then, e.g. from BoeMogensen (Boe is too too weak), MateusiakLogosz downwards

WD
1. DuYu, ZhangZhao
3. ChengZhao
4. PanTian
5. out of China, does is make any sense?

XD:
1. ZhengMa
2. the recovered NovaNatsir
3. HeYu
4. LeeLee

if Robertson can pair Kellogg... I prefer them

limsy

03-22-2009, 04:38 AM

MD:
1. MarkisHendra (I still regard them as a pair), CaiFu, KooTan

u think koo/tan can be in number 1???...acording to many bcer...they are one hit wonder....;)....ops...should be many hit wonder by now....:rolleyes:...

Siegfried_Li

03-22-2009, 04:56 AM

u think koo/tan can be in number 1???...acording to many bcer...they are one hit wonder....;)....ops...should be many hit wonder by now....:rolleyes:...

Well, probably I should say the recovered and playing "a bit better than normal" Koo/Tan. That's true that I still consider Markis/Hendra "a bit stronger" than Cai/Fu, and Cai/Fu also "a bit stronger" than Koo/Tan. But you know, those three pairs have a common character: in most of their games they will suddenly playing like untrained pairs. Therefore it is quite hard to predict.

Btw, now probably Markis/Hendra will be forever unpaired, Cai and Fu are both suffering from injuries (though not that hurting), while Koo and Tan are in a good form... :)

limsy

03-22-2009, 05:04 AM

Btw, now probably Markis/Hendra will be forever unpaired, Cai and Fu are both suffering from injuries (though not that hurting), while Koo and Tan are in a good form... :)

why jjs/lyd is not in ur top level list???:rolleyes:....

oh....BOTH CAI AND FU IS INJURED???WHERE????SO KOO/TAN JUST LUCKY TO WIN THE SWISS OPEN???:eek:

Siegfried_Li

03-22-2009, 05:18 AM

I haven't said they are lucky, in fact, I prefer them also, and I put all my wish to them in the final there in Basel.

I never like LYD. JSJ is in my list of current top MD players, for sure.

koo_fan

03-22-2009, 06:24 AM

I never like LYD.

Gosh! think of this again. He's too cute to deserve this.:p

Anw, he can play xd, md with anyone. I think that's the speciality of his.

dassad

03-22-2009, 05:41 PM

demolidor

03-22-2009, 06:12 PM

no one described here why rankings at http://www.internationalbadminton.org/ranking.asp are looking like
who saw KUNCORO? he got new points
PERSSON and LD stayed the same, with totally different results
Taufik played much better than Gade but earned the same
BCL won tournament - out of 10

Kuncoro lost ~2000 points ... Bao CL was semi finalist in All England and Swiss last year + QF Korea and Malaysia > this year: 1/16 & 1/32 + winner grand prix tournament

Explanation -> Part III, Appendix 6: http://www.internationalbadminton.org/statues.asp

limsy

03-23-2009, 12:30 AM

ya...u really should teach him what is world ranking.....i have repeat repeat and repeat tat his own RATING and WORLD RANKING is different

george@chongwei

03-23-2009, 02:15 AM

are you talking about SO? badminton ranking system working just like old tennis one, with comparisons to last-year results?
what with AE?
do you actually understand what is A BWF ranking and your own rating?:rolleyes:

jasonmarc

03-23-2009, 03:49 AM

do you actually understand what is A BWF ranking and your own rating?:rolleyes:

I dont think dassad understand.

I would suggest dassad to read the world ranking system, before discussing these matter here, orther wise, it will make him more confuse....;)

dassad

03-23-2009, 11:10 AM

do you actually understand what is A BWF ranking and your own rating?:rolleyes:

sure dont. where should i see own rating?

demolidor

03-23-2009, 02:04 PM

dassad

03-23-2009, 05:15 PM

dassas is wondering why the world rankings have changed as they have, not in relation to this topic "own rankings"/opinion (that was my understanding anyway). Like how Bao CL won the German Open yet has dropped out of the top 10 etc.
For the answer: it is in the rules you can find in the link (basically best 10 results during the last 52 weeks count, bigger tournaments = more points).

yes sure I am not talking about the very first post of the thread. There I totally understand the private looking of someone. But I asked about rankings just by the way, with not to open another thread..
ok - basically best 10 results during the last 52 weeks count - that systems I met before