Lee Chong Wei & Taufik Hidayat at the 2009 India Open [Archive]

chris-ccc

03-16-2009, 06:55 AM

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Lee Chong Wei & Taufik Hidayat at the 2009 India Open

Greetings,

The 2009 India Open will be held from Tuesday March 24 to Sunday March 29.
For the draw: click here (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/draw.aspx?id=72F1F101-544B-4C1F-B8BE-11BB3296ADE8&draw=1)

LCW and TH will be seeded as No.1 and 2 respectively at this tournament. Currently, LCW is ranked as World No.1, while TH is as World No.7.

At their last meeting, at the 2009 Swiss Open Quarter-Finals, on Friday 13-Mar-2009, LCW narrowly defeated TH with scores of 21-23, 21-12, 21-19 in 1 hour and 5 minutes.

LCW continued making his way to win at that Finals, defeating Lin Dan, World No.2, with scores of 21-16, 21-16 in 52 minutes.

Will LCW and TH be facing each other at the Finals at this 2009 India Open?

Cheers... chris-ccc
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eaglehelang

03-16-2009, 07:18 AM

Now there's a new trend. Either player X & Y in a tourney or country ABC in a tourney.

george@chongwei

03-16-2009, 07:35 AM

we shall see:cool:
all the best to this 2 man in this tournament:)

chris-ccc

03-16-2009, 07:37 AM

Now there's a new trend. Either player X & Y in a tourney or country ABC in a tourney.

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eaglehelang ... It's still the same old trend. :):):)

Currently, the 4 Heavenly Kings are still the best 4 talented players that we have, namely:
Lee Chong Wei
Lin Dan
Taufik Hidayat
Peter Gade

It's always interesting when they should face one another, at any tournament.

:):):)
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chris-ccc

03-16-2009, 10:16 AM

we shall see:cool:
all the best to this 2 man in this tournament:)

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Also, awaiting for Sandy to give us the PAW points for LCW and TH (as they start from Round 1). :):):)
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thiery

03-16-2009, 08:04 PM

Chong Wei pulled out of India Open. He is playing an exhibition match in Hungary this week, so I read.

eaglehelang

03-16-2009, 09:10 PM

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eaglehelang ... It's still the same old trend. :):):)

:):):)
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I mean, the trend of threads about "XXX player in ZZZ tournament" ;)

eaglehelang

03-16-2009, 09:11 PM

Chong Wei pulled out of India Open. He is playing an exhibition match in Hungary this week, so I read.

According to the NST interview LCW is competing. This week's the friendly match, next week only is India Open.

http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Tuesday/Sport/2506793/Article/pppull_index_html

chris-ccc

03-16-2009, 10:45 PM

I mean, the trend of threads about "XXX player in ZZZ tournament" ;)

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Yes, it is because it could be interesting to follow some of our professional players in some of the tournaments they are entering.

The first one done was " To follow Wong Choong Hann at the German Open 2009 (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66489) ".
Many thought WCH could win it, but unfortunately he stopped at the Quarter-Finals (again). :o

Then, the next one was " Can Taufik win the AE MS title this time? (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66746) ".
Taufik came close, but he was eliminated by LCW at the Semi-Finals.

The latest one is " Saina Nehwal at the 2009 India Open (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67637) "
It should be appropriate to follow Saina at this tournament. And Saina could have a good chance of winning her WS title here.

:):):)
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ctjcad

03-17-2009, 01:22 AM

..i'd imagine, anything short of a Finals appearance for either or both players will be considered a disappointment??...:confused:

chris-ccc

03-17-2009, 04:06 AM

..i'd imagine, anything short of a Finals appearance for either or both players will be considered a disappointment??...:confused:

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Not really ... We can only hope that they would try their best in their matches. And showing us their skill and craft at this tournament.

How they perform is what is important. Winning or losing is only part of the game.
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sekut

03-17-2009, 04:10 AM

i really hope that both players will meet at the final

ants

03-17-2009, 04:17 AM

LCW will be in India Open. Hungary exhibition is just for 2 days.

sekut

03-17-2009, 04:24 AM

where is the new talent in badminton???

chris-ccc

03-17-2009, 05:04 AM

where is the new talent in badminton???

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Hi sekut ... Welcome to Badminton Central !!! :):):)

The new talent in Badminton is a Womens Singles player, Wang Yihan, from China.
There is a thread for her: click here (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60684)
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ctjcad

03-17-2009, 09:40 AM

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Not really ... We can only hope that they would try their best in their matches. And showing us their skill and craft at this tournament.

How they perform is what is important. Winning or losing is only part of the game.
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..not to underestimate the other top competitors (in MS event), but considering LCW and Taufik are essentially the top players here, wouldn't anyone expect them to go deep into the draw and reach the Finals??..Show them skills, crafts and "magical touch" and reach the Final round..;)

As for Taufik, how about winning this India Open GP Gold for all your supporters and die-hard fanz??..;)

george@chongwei

03-17-2009, 11:53 AM

i won't be surprised actually to be honest if 1 of them withdraw from this tournament;)

chris-ccc

03-17-2009, 12:13 PM

..not to underestimate the other top competitors (in MS event), but considering LCW and Taufik are essentially the top players here, wouldn't anyone expect them to go deep into the draw and reach the Finals??..Show them skills, crafts and "magical touch" and reach the Final round..;)

As for Taufik, how about winning this India Open GP Gold for all your supporters and die-hard fanz??..;)

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Yes, It is expected that we will have a TH-vs-LCW Finals at this 2009 India Open.

I posted this in a previous thread:

It's clear to see that TH is now fitter.

It's clear to say that TH is more prepared this time, for this 2009 German/AE/Swiss series of tournaments.

Unfortunately, LCW was in top form at this 2009 Swiss Open. I would say that; If LCW were to play with just 1% less than how he had played, TH would have defeated him.

So it was unlucky for TH that LCW was in top form. Otherwise, TH would be the one to face LD at the Finals. And perhaps able to win the 2009 Swiss Open MS title.

TH has come back to be at the same level as the World's No.1 and 2.
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OneToughBirdie

03-17-2009, 12:26 PM

[quote=chris@ccc;1123520].
Yes, It is expected that we will have a TH-vs-LCW Finals at this 2009 India Open.

CHN has unleashed all their young guns at MS and they are tough and good...anything is possible to deny a LCW-TH final...I would not bet against CHN MS players.

chris-ccc

03-17-2009, 01:04 PM

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Yes, we shouldn't discount the CHN MS young guns.

Let's list them and follow their progress too:
* http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/CHN.gif[CHN] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=72F1F101-544B-4C1F-B8BE-11BB3296ADE8&c=CHN)Kai WEN (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=72F1F101-544B-4C1F-B8BE-11BB3296ADE8&player=25) *(WR #85)
* http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/CHN.gif[CHN] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=72F1F101-544B-4C1F-B8BE-11BB3296ADE8&c=CHN)Yanbo QIU (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=72F1F101-544B-4C1F-B8BE-11BB3296ADE8&player=26) *(WR #88)
* http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/CHN.gif[CHN] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=72F1F101-544B-4C1F-B8BE-11BB3296ADE8&c=CHN)Long CHEN (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=72F1F101-544B-4C1F-B8BE-11BB3296ADE8&player=36) *(WR #147)
* http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/CHN.gif[CHN] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=72F1F101-544B-4C1F-B8BE-11BB3296ADE8&c=CHN)Pengyu DU (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=72F1F101-544B-4C1F-B8BE-11BB3296ADE8&player=33) *(WR #154)
* http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/CHN.gif[CHN] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=72F1F101-544B-4C1F-B8BE-11BB3296ADE8&c=CHN)Wenlong ZHOU (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=72F1F101-544B-4C1F-B8BE-11BB3296ADE8&player=37) *(WR #218)

LCW will face CL in Round 1. And probably WK in Round 3. Don't think that ZWL can make it to the Semi-Finals.

TH will probably face DPY in Round 3. And perhaps QYB at the Quarter-Finals.
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ctjcad

03-17-2009, 04:04 PM

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Yes, It is expected that we will have a TH-vs-LCW Finals at this 2009 India Open.

I posted this in a previous thread:

It's clear to see that TH is now fitter.

It's clear to say that TH is more prepared this time, for this 2009 German/AE/Swiss series of tournaments.

Unfortunately, LCW was in top form at this 2009 Swiss Open. I would say that; If LCW were to play with just 1% less than how he had played, TH would have defeated him.

So it was unlucky for TH that LCW was in top form. Otherwise, TH would be the one to face LD at the Finals. And perhaps able to win the 2009 Swiss Open MS title.

TH has come back to be at the same level as the World's No.1 and 2.
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..show what you're made of and win that India Open GP Gold for chris@ccc & the rest of your supporters/die-hard fanz and sympathizers...;)

chris-ccc

03-17-2009, 06:06 PM

..show what you're made of and win that India Open GP Gold for chris@ccc & the rest of your supporters/die-hard fanz and sympathizers...;)

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Now that LCW has regained his confidence, after having defeated LD and TH (twice) over the last 2 weeks, it would be harder for TH to win the MS title at this 2009 India Open.

But we should still expect a TH-vs-LCW Finals here.
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sekut

03-17-2009, 07:21 PM

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Hi sekut ... Welcome to Badminton Central !!! :):):)

The new talent in Badminton is a Womens Singles player, Wang Yihan, from China.
There is a thread for her: click here (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60684)
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hi chris...tq
but i'm actually referring to new talent in MS..:))
i do hope that someone other than LCW and TH spring some surprises in this tournament

chris-ccc

03-17-2009, 08:54 PM

hi chris...tq
but i'm actually referring to new talent in MS..:)
i do hope that someone other than LCW and TH spring some surprises in this tournament.

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The new talent in MS is http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/CHN.gif[CHN] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=72F1F101-544B-4C1F-B8BE-11BB3296ADE8&c=CHN)Kai WEN (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=72F1F101-544B-4C1F-B8BE-11BB3296ADE8&player=25)
He would probably face LCW in Round 3.
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sekut

03-18-2009, 12:39 AM

mmmm...i need to see his performance then :))

egibney

03-18-2009, 12:43 AM

i won't be surprised actually to be honest if 1 of them withdraw from this tournament;)

That's actually a very good point!

chris-ccc

03-18-2009, 01:42 AM

That's actually a very good point!

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No !!! ;););) ... We wish to have a 'LCW-vs-TH' rematch ASAP. :):):)
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koo_fan

03-18-2009, 01:49 AM

To make it 3 in a row? wow!

Hope Taufik can go as far as he can, his actions worth it.

CLELY

03-18-2009, 02:43 AM

Dr. Evil

03-18-2009, 05:58 AM

Nahhh...... Taufik is a smart player. I think the reason why he fair better in the Swiss open against LCW is because he pick up on the strategy that LCW used in the AE. So I think there is a good chance for him to actually beat LCW.

ye333

03-18-2009, 09:54 AM

Aha. It would not be easy for either LCW or TH. In fact, with all these Chinese young men around, getting in to India Open final may be harder than getting into, say, semi-final of any SS event.

And possible opponent for TH at semifinal is Nguyen Tien Minh, a dangerous Vietnamese player. Barring any upset, looking forward to third encounter of LCW-TH in one month...

ctjcad

03-18-2009, 10:15 AM

..ahh, don't you worry, with all those youngsters in the way, we'll most likely still see a TH vs. LCW matchup in the Final...;)

ye333

03-18-2009, 01:32 PM

I am not so sure... ;)

..ahh, don't you worry, with all those youngsters in the way, we'll most likely still see a TH vs. LCW matchup in the Final...;)

chris-ccc

03-18-2009, 02:22 PM

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I am 60% sure that we'll see a TH-vs-LCW Final. ;););)
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OneToughBirdie

03-18-2009, 02:30 PM

..ahh, don't you worry, with all those youngsters in the way, we'll most likely still see a TH vs. LCW matchup in the Final...;)
Fans can wish, can hope, can expect a TH-LCW finals...CHN MS and WS players, I always say, are tough customers, well prepared and trained....world ranking means nothing much as they do not participate enough to gather ranking points....privilede to represent CHN which has a huge baddy population base to pick from and with these players eager to establish themselves and what better bragging rights than to knock off the 2 high profile players in the world to solidy a spot on CHN team, I would say anything can happen to deny a TH-LCW final...just look at WYH and JYJ, what are their WR and how did they do in recent tourneys? they played giant killers knocking off one top player after another...making CHN team is far harder than to win a SS...remember promising Chen LI in CHN WS, she played one tourney and gone, what does that tell you about CHN competitiveness..if CHN player pull a stunt like HH, he/she can kiss baddy career bye bye and go sell kachang puteh or fried chow-kwei-teow:p:D

SibugiChai

03-18-2009, 03:26 PM

There are so many INdian players... 1 o 2 might springs some suprise with HOME GROUND ADVANTAGES Korean style?

madbad

03-18-2009, 04:00 PM

Fans can wish, can hope, can expect a TH-LCW finals...CHN MS and WS players, I always say, are tough customers, well prepared and trained....world ranking means nothing much as they do not participate enough to gather ranking points....privilede to represent CHN which has a huge baddy population base to pick from and with these players eager to establish themselves and what better bragging rights than to knock off the 2 high profile players in the world to solidy a spot on CHN team, I would say anything can happen to deny a TH-LCW final...just look at WYH and JYJ, what are their WR and how did they do in recent tourneys? they played giant killers knocking off one top player after another...making CHN team is far harder than to win a SS...remember promising Chen LI in CHN WS, she played one tourney and gone, what does that tell you about CHN competitiveness..if CHN player pull a stunt like HH, he/she can kiss baddy career bye bye and go sell kachang puteh or fried chow-kwei-teow:p:D

WYH and JYJ are miles ahead of their MS counterparts. None of the second tier CHN MS players have had much of a chance to show their stuff due to the dominance of the current stock of first tier players (LD, BCL, CJ). Of note though, GWJ has made more of his opportunities lately.

badadum

03-18-2009, 04:23 PM

sekut

03-18-2009, 07:24 PM

mmm..let's wait and see nyaaaaaaaaaaaaa :))

chris-ccc

03-19-2009, 12:55 AM

How old are these 2nd tier MS from china? I think GWJ is 22 and CL is not even 20 yet, but dunno about the rest.

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badadum ... So you want to know the CHN players' birthdays. :):):)
Perhaps our suetyan is the best person to answer your question.

But from Oldhand 's thread (Professional Players’ Birthdays (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65994)), we find this list:

CHN players' birthdays:
Lu Lan (Oct 17, 1987)
Yu Yang (Apr 07, 1986)
Zhang Yawen (Mar 09, 1985)
Du Jing (Jun 23, 1984)
Zhu Lin (Oct 29, 1984)
Wei Yili (Jun 24, 1982)
Zhang Jiewen (Jan 04, 1981)
Xie Xingfang (Jan 08, 1981)
Gao Ling (Mar 14, 1979)
Yang Wei (Jan 13, 1979)
Zhang Ning (May 19, 1975)
Wang Yihan (Jan 18, 1988)
Wang Lin (Mar 31, 1989)
Huang Sui (Jan 08, 1982)
Zhao Tingting (Nov 28, 1982)
Jiang Yan Jiao (Jun 26, 1986)
Chen Jin (Jan 10, 1986)
He Hanbin (Jan 10, 1986)
Guo Zhendong (Aug 04, 1984)
Bao Chunlai (Feb 17, 1983)
Fu Haifeng (Jan 02, 1984)
Xie Zhongbo (May 22, 1983)
Zheng Bo (Nov 26, 1983)
Lin Dan (Oct 14, 1983)
Cai Yun (Jan 19, 1980)
Chen Hong (Nov 28, 1979)
Zhang Wei (Feb 02, 1987)
Gong Weiji (Jun 02, 1986)
Xie Xin (Sept 18, 1984)
Xu Cen (Nov 29, 1984)
Qing Tian (Aug 19, 1986)
Pan Pan (Apr 27, 1986)
Shen Ye (Mar 11, 1987)
Zhu Jingjing (Jan 07, 1985)

Please add more to Oldhand 's list, when more dates are found.

Cheers... chris-ccc
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ctjcad

03-19-2009, 01:08 AM

I am not so sure... ;)
Fans can wish, can hope, can expect a TH-LCW finals...
..but, the percentage of both of them meeting in the Final is surely more than 50%..Wait a minute, did someone pull out the calculator and actually punch in those digits for a percentage no.??..:confused::confused:

AlanY

03-19-2009, 03:48 AM

..but, the percentage of both of them meeting in the Final is surely more than 50%..Wait a minute, did someone pull out the calculator and actually punch in those digits for a percentage no.??..:confused::confused:
based on current form TH got no chance against LCW, but wasnt it what people said between LD and LCW last week? that's what made badminton so interesting, isnt it?

Dr. Evil

03-19-2009, 04:46 AM

based on current form TH got no chance against LCW, but wasnt it what people said between LD and LCW last week? that's what made badminton so interesting, isnt it?

Taufik almost beat LCW is the Swiss quarter final, so I think the "no chance" is pretty far off. In term of physical fitness, LCW is two level above Taufik now but that goes not guarantee a winning.

AlanY

03-19-2009, 04:49 AM

Taufik almost beat LCW is the Swiss quarter final, so I think the "no chance" is pretty far off. In term of physical fitness, LCW is two level above Taufik now but that goes not guarantee a winning.
almost means nothing. when was the last time TH actually beat LCW?

phaarix

03-19-2009, 04:59 AM

almost means nothing. when was the last time TH actually beat LCW?

French Open. Is that so long ago :D?

AlanY

03-19-2009, 05:01 AM

French Open. Is that so long ago :D?
ok, i stand to be corrected.
when was the last time TH beat LCW twice in a row then?

badadum

03-19-2009, 07:13 AM

ok, i stand to be corrected.
when was the last time TH beat LCW twice in a row then?

Same answer, TH beat LCW in Macau Open and then in French Open consecutively.

phaarix

03-19-2009, 08:45 AM

ok, i stand to be corrected.
when was the last time TH beat LCW twice in a row then?

Hehehe :). I guess I'm just a badminton nerd...

ye333

03-19-2009, 09:26 AM

What the point? If TH hasn't beat LCW twice in a row recently, then he has no chance beating LCW in India Open? :confused::confused::confused:

when was the last time TH beat LCW twice in a row then?

chris-ccc

03-19-2009, 10:58 AM

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If we were told "Taufik Hidayat lost to Lee Chong Wei at the 2009 Swiss Open (Quarter-Finals)", then we would have to agree that "LCW must have played better than TH on that day".

Then, if we were told "The 3-games match lasted 65 minutes", we would have to agree that "TH must be fitter now, to last such a long match".

Finally, if we were informed "In the 3rd game, TH lost to LCW with scores of 3-all, 5-all, 7-all, 8-all, 9-all, 15-all, 16-all, 17-all, 18-all, 18-19, 19-20, 19-21 (and the last few points could have gone either way"......
We cannot say that Taufik Hidayat has no chance of defeating LCW at the 2009 India Open.

The begging question is: Can both TH and LCW arrive at the Finals of 2009 India Open?
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AlanY

03-19-2009, 11:07 AM

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The begging question is: Can both TH and LCW arrive at the Finals of 2009 India Open?
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that would be quite a safe bet, wouldnt it?

chris-ccc

03-19-2009, 11:38 AM

that would be quite a safe bet, wouldnt it?

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As OneToughBirdie said... Both LCW and TH have to tackle the CHN MS young guns first.

And I have listed them, namely;
* http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/CHN.gif[CHN] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=72F1F101-544B-4C1F-B8BE-11BB3296ADE8&c=CHN)Kai WEN (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=72F1F101-544B-4C1F-B8BE-11BB3296ADE8&player=25) *(WR #85)
* http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/CHN.gif[CHN] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=72F1F101-544B-4C1F-B8BE-11BB3296ADE8&c=CHN)Yanbo QIU (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=72F1F101-544B-4C1F-B8BE-11BB3296ADE8&player=26) *(WR #88)
* http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/CHN.gif[CHN] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=72F1F101-544B-4C1F-B8BE-11BB3296ADE8&c=CHN)Long CHEN (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=72F1F101-544B-4C1F-B8BE-11BB3296ADE8&player=36) *(WR #147)
* http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/CHN.gif[CHN] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=72F1F101-544B-4C1F-B8BE-11BB3296ADE8&c=CHN)Pengyu DU (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=72F1F101-544B-4C1F-B8BE-11BB3296ADE8&player=33) *(WR #154)
* http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/CHN.gif[CHN] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=72F1F101-544B-4C1F-B8BE-11BB3296ADE8&c=CHN)Wenlong ZHOU (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=72F1F101-544B-4C1F-B8BE-11BB3296ADE8&player=37) *(WR #218)

LCW will face CL in Round 1. And probably WK in Round 3. Don't think that ZWL can make it to the Semi-Finals.

TH will probably face DPY in Round 3. And perhaps QYB at the Quarter-Finals.

Wen Kai has great potential, IMHO.
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george@chongwei

03-19-2009, 12:52 PM

yep, those chinese youngster have a great potential to spoil the party;)

sekut

03-19-2009, 08:11 PM

always expect the unexpected..nyaaaaaaaa :))

Dr. Evil

03-20-2009, 01:08 AM

Wonder if Taufik will go back to his old tricks. Let go of smaller tournament, then bag the big one.

chris-ccc

03-20-2009, 01:41 AM

Wonder if Taufik will go back to his old tricks. Let go of smaller tournament, then bag the big one.

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Yes, quite often Taufik uses smaller tournaments for his preparation for BIGGER tournaments.

And so do many other tournament players. ;););)
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tangent90

03-20-2009, 05:33 AM

Everyone has very their personal touch to enjoying badminton as a game and as a discussion. :)

I would enjoy games that either TH or LCW will be playing, against each other or other players. A game between the two will certainly be interesting.

Look forward to watching the game.

limsy

03-20-2009, 05:43 AM

CHN has unleashed all their young guns at MS and they are tough and good...anything is possible to deny a LCW-TH final...I would not bet against CHN MS players.

haiya....wait pemuda create a thread...why send player to a tournament whenever there have chinese player....:rolleyes:

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Yes, we shouldn't discount the CHN MS young guns.

Let's list them and follow their progress too:
* http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/CHN.gif[CHN] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=72F1F101-544B-4C1F-B8BE-11BB3296ADE8&c=CHN)Kai WEN (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=72F1F101-544B-4C1F-B8BE-11BB3296ADE8&player=25) *(WR #85)
* http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/CHN.gif[CHN] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=72F1F101-544B-4C1F-B8BE-11BB3296ADE8&c=CHN)Yanbo QIU (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=72F1F101-544B-4C1F-B8BE-11BB3296ADE8&player=26) *(WR #88)
* http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/CHN.gif[CHN] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=72F1F101-544B-4C1F-B8BE-11BB3296ADE8&c=CHN)Long CHEN (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=72F1F101-544B-4C1F-B8BE-11BB3296ADE8&player=36) *(WR #147)
* http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/CHN.gif[CHN] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=72F1F101-544B-4C1F-B8BE-11BB3296ADE8&c=CHN)Pengyu DU (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=72F1F101-544B-4C1F-B8BE-11BB3296ADE8&player=33) *(WR #154)
* http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/CHN.gif[CHN] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=72F1F101-544B-4C1F-B8BE-11BB3296ADE8&c=CHN)Wenlong ZHOU (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=72F1F101-544B-4C1F-B8BE-11BB3296ADE8&player=37) *(WR #218)

LCW will face CL in Round 1. And probably WK in Round 3. Don't think that ZWL can make it to the Semi-Finals.

TH will probably face DPY in Round 3. And perhaps QYB at the Quarter-Finals.
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this is a good measurement for our ELITE BACK UP SQUAD.......
anyway....the failure here will have pxxxxx to ask bam to dimiss national squad....only keep lcw can already....then after lcw retired...ask bam close shop....he is always bright....to avoid malaysia from keep losing and wasting taxpayer money....he is the REAL CANDIDATE TO LEAD BAM....:D

limsy

03-20-2009, 05:47 AM

for th vs lcw....
th is the more posible to lose in early round to low rank player....
lcw rarely lost to someone outside wr top 10/top 16 since he is wr 1/wr 2....:rolleyes:...

anyway...actually the perdiction is easy....lcw is expected to beat th....but if lcw lose to th...that is not something tat will let us surprise....as simply as tat...:)

X Ball

03-20-2009, 06:53 AM

If I were TH, I would be getting my stamina up with lots of gym work as I would need it to play against LCW. TH's skills are not wanting but his fitness will not be as good as LCW. But having said this, I thought he was getting fitter in his last few matches.

If I were LCW, I would be thinking on how to outfox TH - maybe I will stretch him by playing long rallies like the ones I did against LD. LCW, having beaten TH in the last two encounter looks hard to beat. He should use this tournament to sharpen his skills further.

Dr. Evil

03-20-2009, 08:44 AM

Dr. Evil

03-20-2009, 09:23 AM

ye333

03-20-2009, 09:45 AM

Things change. Nowadays TH needs these "small" titles.

Wonder if Taufik will go back to his old tricks. Let go of smaller tournament, then bag the big one.

limsy

03-20-2009, 10:04 AM

For all you know, may turn out to be Hafiz vs LCW in the final.

actually...i hope is all malaysian final....in ms...and md...but it is hard....so...just hope...may my wish come true...:)

OneToughBirdie

03-20-2009, 02:56 PM

Actually working out in the gym (weight lifting) develop strenght and also to some point speed. It is the cardio training that increase stamina. I should know cause I work out in the gym.

I work out too running around the oval track but everytime after buffet food, the damn track seems getting bigger and longer to complete a lap and my stamina does not improve much:p:D

OneToughBirdie

03-20-2009, 02:58 PM

Things change. Nowadays TH needs these "small" titles.

TH will win IO beating everyone including Dato because TH will unleash his 8th secret weapon when the previous 7 secret weapons only get him to SF...If you don't believe me, just ask Indra:p:D

ctjcad

03-20-2009, 06:19 PM

...
....lcw is expected to beat th....but if lcw lose to th...that is not something tat will let us surprise....
..for me, if LCW were to lose to Taufik, that will be a surprise..:p
If I were TH, I would be getting my stamina up with lots of gym work as I would need it to play against LCW.
...
..better hope the 1 week off (this week) will give him enough gym work and extra training hours to up his stamina & go at it, again, next week..After all, quite a few of us are expecting a TH vs. LCW match in the Final..;)

syahraul

03-20-2009, 08:43 PM

TH will win IO beating everyone including Dato because TH will unleash his 8th secret weapon when the previous 7 secret weapons only get him to SF...If you don't believe me, just ask Indra:p:D

I would like to share the same feeling too..I'll bet this time TH will make it all out to beat LCW.So Datuk must be careful and watch out..
What ever it takes,MALAYSIA BOLEH!!!!:D:D:D

huangkwokhau

03-20-2009, 09:27 PM

Chinese MS are good.......watch out!!!

Oldhand

03-20-2009, 10:02 PM

Chinese MS are good.......watch out!!!

The India Open is overflowing with badminton debutants!
A few of them could turn out to be nasty surprises for the top seeds.

Dr. Evil

03-20-2009, 10:38 PM

I work out too running around the oval track but everytime after buffet food, the damn track seems getting bigger and longer to complete a lap and my stamina does not improve much:p:D

When it comes to distance running, I think most of the time we all suffer from the will power to push ourself. This why I don't like periodic jogging and running. Even though physically we improve to go further, it is very likely that our mental power have wane or burnout.

I guess that is why people have coach or trainer, to push them when they cannot do it for themselves. And this is also why I like playing badminton, cause the shuttlecock pace me to the point of exhaustion.

madbad

03-21-2009, 01:39 AM

..for me, if LCW were to lose to Taufik, that will be a surprise..:p

..better hope the 1 week off (this week) will give him enough gym work and extra training hours to up his stamina & go at it, again, next week..After all, quite a few of us are expecting a TH vs. LCW match in the Final..;)

Chris, no matter how much you put a light hearted spin on it (you're just being a nice guy :)), I tend to agree that LCW will not let TH get the better of him. If beating LD after he's been clobbered the last few times isn't motivation enough, I don't know what is. TH will have to work to his bones to beat LCW from now on.

eaglehelang

03-21-2009, 01:44 AM

Chris, no matter how much you put a light hearted spin on it (you're just being a nice guy :)), I tend to agree that LCW will not let TH get the better of him. If beating LD after he's been clobbered the last few times isn't motivation enough, I don't know what is. TH will have to work to his bones to beat LCW from now on.

Taufik also would want to win, lose, lose, lose, sure cannot stand it :p.
Btw, your fav cuties (or their younger replacements) not going kah? More interesting with cuties to cheer me suppose.:D

Oldhand

03-21-2009, 01:56 AM

madbad

03-21-2009, 02:15 AM

At the risk of igniting a bushfire, let me say that a determined Taufik is harder to beat than a determined Lin Dan.

The bush fire is indeed ignited. The unpredictability in TH is one that players fear the most.

That's because, determined or not, Lin-Dan-the-player remains the same.
With Taufik, it's very different.
When in his special 'I'm-not-letting-go' mood, he is very tough to beat.

(Peter Gade, in his online chat a couple of days ago, was hardly joking when he cited Taufik as 'one of the greatest players of the game'.)

For the avoidance of doubt, I'm not stating that a determined Taufik cannot be beaten... but only that 'a determined Taufik would be harder to beat'.

But you must agree a pumped up LCW, after finally overcoming his arch-nemesis LD, is equally determined to maintain his momentum.

Unfortunately, although his spirit is willing, his flesh is weak :o
The Indonesian's diminished physical faculties are painfully obvious.

Many of his fans believe to the contrary, that he is a "new" man, with a dedicated physical fitness regime. Let's see if he lasts more than 3 months before he falls prey to his bad habits.

As much as I enjoy TH the player, I still feel his cushy, already-made life will get the better of him. I have stated before I'd love him to prove me wrong.

madbad

03-21-2009, 02:20 AM

Taufik also would want to win, lose, lose, lose, sure cannot stand it :p.
Btw, your fav cuties (or their younger replacements) not going kah? More interesting with cuties to cheer me suppose.:D

Eaglehelang, young lady, I'm sure TH would want no more than to beat LCW and LD. But for him, it's small steps first. I would say LD fears him more than LCW. TH has that "arrogant" (sorry, for lack of a better word) aura about him than LCW. Let's see TH topple LCW first then tackle LD.

As for my cuties, there will alway be some at tournaments. As a result, I will always have a keen interest :)

ctjcad

03-21-2009, 02:22 AM

Chris, no matter how much you put a light hearted spin on it (you're just being a nice guy :)), I tend to agree that LCW will not let TH get the better of him. If beating LD after he's been clobbered the last few times isn't motivation enough, I don't know what is. TH will have to work to his bones to beat LCW from now on.
..for real..(maybe i'm teasing the many or few Taufik's supporters, die-hard fans or sympathizers)..:p
I'd be surprised if both LCW and TH meet in the Final.
I'd be surprised if LCW doesn't go to the Final.
I'd be surprised if TH does go to the Final.

I think you get what i'm trying to get across (in my posts in this thread)..;)

george@chongwei

03-21-2009, 02:47 AM

Eaglehelang, young lady, I'm sure TH would want no more than to beat LCW and LD. But for him, it's small steps first. I would say LD fears him more than LCW. TH has that "arrogant" (sorry, for lack of a better word) aura about him than LCW. Let's see TH topple LCW first then tackle LD.

As for my cuties, there will alway be some at tournaments. As a result, I will always have a keen interest :)
young lady, do you know how old is our eaglehelang?;):p:p

chris-ccc

03-21-2009, 03:10 AM

At the risk of igniting a bushfire, let me say that a determined Taufik is harder to beat than a determined Lin Dan.

That's because, determined or not, Lin-Dan-the-player remains the same.
With Taufik, it's very different.
When in his special 'I'm-not-letting-go' mood, he is very tough to beat.

(Peter Gade, in his online chat a couple of days ago, was hardly joking when he cited Taufik as 'one of the greatest players of the game'.)

For the avoidance of doubt, I'm not stating that a determined Taufik cannot be beaten... but only that 'a determined Taufik would be harder to beat'.

Unfortunately, although his spirit is willing, his flesh is weak :o
The Indonesian's diminished physical faculties are painfully obvious.

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Many players would agree with Peter Gade.

Taufik's skill (in technique) is one of the best in the world. Many cannot do what Taufik can do, like his backhand smash, netplay, great attacking and defending play, deceptive play, etc...

It is magical play. It is pure talent.

I thought because Taufik himself knew of his talent, he became complacent and lazy to work on his fitness and stamina. If only Taufik could match up with other players in stamina, speed and fitness, he should be almost invincible.

It is hope that it's not too late for Taufik. He is now older. Even if he could get to his best ever fitness, he will find that he is slower (in movement).

So now, Taufik has got to use his magical strokes in a smart way (in tactics). He still has his strokes. And he could improve his stamina. But probably, he would never be able to improve his speed (court movement).
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eaglehelang

03-21-2009, 05:02 AM

young lady, do you know how old is our eaglehelang?;):p:p

Dont off topic lah, you want everyone to know I'm "old" is it? :p:D

koo_fan

03-21-2009, 05:48 AM

Dont off topic lah, you want everyone to know I'm "old" is it? :p:D
not 'old' la. Who said so?

Dr. Evil

03-21-2009, 06:14 AM

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Many players would agree with Peter Gade.

Taufik's skill (in technique) is one of the best in the world. Many cannot do what Taufik can do, like his backhand smash, netplay, great attacking and defending play, deceptive play, etc...

It is magical play. It is pure talent.

I thought because Taufik himself knew of his talent, he became complacent and lazy to work on his fitness and stamina. If only Taufik could match up with other players in stamina, speed and fitness, he should be almost invincible.

It is hope that it's not too late for Taufik. He is now older. Even if he could get to his best ever fitness, he will find that he is slower (in movement).

So now, Taufik has got to use his magical strokes in a smart way (in tactics). He still has his strokes. And he could improve his stamina. But probably, he would never be able to improve his speed (court movement).
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Nahhhh, I disagree. I'm not saying that he can still go back to his 04-05 days but he can certaintly speed up.

abedeng

03-21-2009, 06:31 AM

Dr. Evil

03-21-2009, 11:26 AM

Lack of speed can be countered by better tactical play. So Taufik's speed deficiency is not much of an issue.

Next time I see him or LCW, need to ask whether that last rally at Swiss Open was in or out. It was a magical rally, fitting to finish off a high quality match.

That might be true but Taufik certaintly can be much faster than what he exhibit during AE09. I mean, it seems like he is even slower than the aging Peter Gade (from KO 09)

ctjcad

03-21-2009, 11:48 AM

..personally, we can judge Taufik's fitness or stamina level by simply looking at how easily he moves around the court and also by his amt of jump or semi-jump smashes. Personally, I don't think Taufik ever has had the same speed like LCW or LD or Sato..:p

Here are 2 videos showing a good example of Taufik's speed/court movement at his peak..Noticed how effortlessly he moved around the court and did his jump and semi-jump smashes (even from the baseline);):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQiYwtOhpLo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGKYmnNNQXE

*Btw, abedeng, i saw the last rally of the 3rd game between Taufik's and LCW's Swiss Open QF match and i from what i can see, i'd say the shuttle just went wide. For those interested, here's a good video showing a pretty good angle of that play:
http://watchbadminton.com/wilson-swiss-open-2009/men-singles/quater-final-1/fb7ab382-9152-4e17-a953-681a2b55f705/play.aspx?p=Part 3 (at 2:22)

jutawin

03-21-2009, 11:51 AM

what does LCW aim for India open???

limsy

03-21-2009, 12:19 PM

what does LCW aim for India open???

erm...in press....reporter say aim 1st back to back title outside malaysia as world number 1....:rolleyes:...

if i am lcw....i will try to sharpen my game and skill...and try to get one more win from th if we meet...:)

ants

03-21-2009, 12:26 PM

Someone should start a thread.. what advice to give taufik to beat lcw...

george@chongwei

03-22-2009, 04:13 AM

Someone should start a thread.. what advice to give taufik to beat lcw...
why not you start start it?:)
or chris@ccc should be able to start it;)

jasonmarc

03-22-2009, 04:18 AM

what does LCW aim for India open???

1. To have a feel of the venue, perhaps.
2. To have quality training, since no one in MAS team can provide him good
sparring session...:D
3. No aiming for the title, as IO is not an important tournament in his list....
:D..dunt U find it sounded familiar..:D:D...........

koo_fan

03-22-2009, 04:40 AM

An advice to Taufik should be as simple as....Taufik, learn to be the old Taufik.Passionate,Gifted, Aggressive.
is it possible?

eaglehelang

03-22-2009, 04:43 AM

1. To have a feel of the venue, perhaps.
2. To have quality training, since no one in MAS team can provide him good
sparring session...:D
3. No aiming for the title, as IO is not an important tournament in his list....
:D..dunt U find it sounded familiar..:D:D...........

No 1 was mentioned by LCW bf in the press
No 2 was mentioned by Misbun
No 3 by BC members :p:p

chris-ccc

03-22-2009, 05:45 AM

Someone should start a thread.. what advice to give taufik to beat lcw...

why not you start start it?:)
or chris@ccc should be able to start it;)

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It's better to allow Mulyo Handoyo to start the thread. :p:p:p

I didn't even make any comment in that thread "How to beat Lin Dan? Advice to Lee CW". But in the "Lee Chong Wei" thread, I posted what Misbun has commented to the press: click here (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1122052&postcount=1423)

:):):)
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jasonmarc

03-22-2009, 07:29 PM

An advice to Taufik should be as simple as....Taufik, learn to be the old Taufik.Passionate,Gifted, Aggressive.
is it possible?

When TH got back to his passinate, gifted and aggressive..:eek:..then, LCW and LD will be in danger............;)

chris-ccc

03-22-2009, 07:45 PM

When TH got back to his passinate, gifted and aggressive..:eek:..then, LCW and LD will be in danger............;)

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Taufik Hidayat is back !!!

IMHO, TH is already back. Even though I am a fan of LCW, I am afraid that TH would be able to defeat LCW at the 2009 India Open.

We shall know in 7 days' time.
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sekut

03-22-2009, 08:34 PM

For all you know, may turn out to be Hafiz vs LCW in the final.

hafizzzzzzzzzz..i thought he was dropped from the malaysian team :eek:

koo_fan

03-22-2009, 09:01 PM

hafizzzzzzzzzz..i thought he was dropped from the malaysian team :eek:
Wait for the India Open first.

chris-ccc

03-22-2009, 09:19 PM

For all you know, may turn out to be Hafiz vs LCW in the final.

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Both HH and LCW are in the top half of the draw.

If HH and LCW were to meet, it would be at the Semi-Finals.
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koo_fan

03-22-2009, 09:44 PM

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Both HH and LCW are in the top half of the draw.

If HH and LCW were to meet, it would be at the Semi-Finals.
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Will MIsbun play LYB's game?

Let Hafiz win so that he stays in the team.

sekut

03-22-2009, 10:08 PM

let hafiz go
darren liew and ariff can take his place :))

chris-ccc

03-22-2009, 10:23 PM

Will MIsbun play LYB's game?

Let Hafiz win so that he stays in the team.

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Don't think so ... Currently, Hafiz Hashim (WR #32) is ranked below 4 MAS players, namely;
1. Lee Chong Wei (WR #1)
2. Wong Choong Hann (WR #13)
3. Lee Tsuen Seng (WR #21)
4. Sairul Ayob (WR #26)

Perhaps HH will need to go independent to make his comeback.
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Dr. Evil

03-22-2009, 11:49 PM

If three month of hard training can bring taufik back to the level with the big boys, I like to see what our "most skillful" player can do.

Quarterfinal anyone? Shouldn't be such a tough aim given the level of participant.

jasonmarc

03-23-2009, 12:06 AM

HH said his form has recovered to 80% of his peak, so he might be able to pass the test in QF, where he is expected to play Chetan anand of India before facing LCW in SF......

koo_fan

03-23-2009, 12:17 AM

When TH got back to his passinate, gifted and aggressive..:eek:..then, LCW and LD will be in danger............;)
A'ha. Really.

And Badminton will be much more fun. The benefits will go back to the fans.
Isn't that great?

koo_fan

03-23-2009, 12:38 AM

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Perhaps HH will need to go independent to make his comeback.

He should have think on how to make a comeback, just after his lost in 1st round, right after AE.
Now, it's too late. I'm afraid.

abedeng

03-23-2009, 01:36 AM

I think 80% is the max that Hafiz can reach, now that he's hitting 27. A man who is still finding his magic touch will not have enough time to develop his game further with time running out.

jasonmarc

03-23-2009, 01:56 AM

I think 80% is the max that Hafiz can reach, now that he's hitting 27. A man who is still finding his magic touch will not have enough time to develop his game further with time running out.

:(..time running out, 80% of HH is just not enough for him to beat players like SS, HYHsin, PSH,ASrihar,.... and Chn juniors.....:crying::crying:

Dr. Evil

03-23-2009, 04:03 AM

HH said his form has recovered to 80% of his peak, so he might be able to pass the test in QF, where he is expected to play Chetan anand of India before facing LCW in SF......

Where did you get this info? Even if he manage to get physically in shape, I'm afraid he might be left behind in experience (despite his age). One look in his battle against Chen Jin in the Thomas cup prove that he couldn't adapt to Chen Jin's trick shot which top player like LCW and Peter have no problem with.

sekut

03-23-2009, 04:10 AM

mmm i even heard that HH will be working at UMT....so he probably will represent UMT in Inter Varsity Staff Games 2009 this June
hope that my uni badminton team will get to play with him..hehehhehehe

jasonmarc

03-23-2009, 04:11 AM

Where did you get this info? Even if he manage to get physically in shape, I'm afraid he might be left behind in experience (despite his age). One look in his battle against Chen Jin in the Thomas cup prove that he couldn't adapt to Chen Jin's trick shot which top player like LCW and Peter have no problem with.

'Berita Harian'...days ago.

markchan

03-23-2009, 08:50 PM

'Berita Harian'...days ago.

U read the Berita Harian? :eek:

anyways, 80% is his coach's perception or his own? :D
I doubt mr. yoyo can go far. He ghas to "re-engineer" himself but really tiem is not on his side....:(

chris-ccc

03-23-2009, 09:17 PM

anyways, 80% is his coach's perception or his own? :D
I doubt mr. yoyo can go far. He has to "re-engineer" himself but really time is not on his side....:(

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Both HH and KBH need to perform well at this 2009 India Open. They have been given warning from BAM.

For more info about the warning: click here (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65615)
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SibugiChai

03-24-2009, 12:58 AM

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Both HH and KBH need to perform well at this 2009 India Open. They have been given warning from BAM.

For more info about the warning: click here (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65615)
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Chris are you from Malaysia?

WARNING in Malaysia usually just to comfort the public... usually the players will be given MORE Warning... one after another...

Final Warning then Final Final Warning then Final Final Final Warning then final x1000 Final Warning

phaarix

03-24-2009, 03:38 AM

koo_fan

03-24-2009, 03:46 AM

Yeah I remember quite a few of these warnings have been given to these players. But even when they don't achieve the target they're set... nothing happens anyway!
Don't think so.
They were about to exclude KBH and HH from the national team if they are unable to perform.

That's their words before.

X Ball

03-24-2009, 03:48 AM

Yeah I remember quite a few of these warnings have been given to these players. But even when they don't achieve the target they're set... nothing happens anyway!

What does that tell you about Malaysians ? Malaysians are forgiving people.:D But not so forgiving if LCW loses - then people like Pemuda will say all sorts of nasties.

phaarix

03-24-2009, 04:11 AM

I don't have anything against HH or KBH of course. Actually KBH has done alright at a few tournaments here and there. And Hafiz is just kind of up and down all over the place... He's like Taufik x 2 - never know what to expect... although unexpected upsets have become kind of expected I think in his case :(. But I think if they should make good on their promises or else no one will take them seriously (BAM).

Malaysians are great though :D.

SibugiChai

03-24-2009, 04:17 AM

eaglehelang

03-24-2009, 04:20 AM

Yeah I remember quite a few of these warnings have been given to these players. But even when they don't achieve the target they're set... nothing happens anyway!

Got, things happen, some points are sensitive issue (disccused before also) ;). If you've noticed, K Yogendran & Yeoh Kay Bin are not with BAM anymore.
With current economic situation, dont be too sure abt them not being dropped, some BJSS, back-up players have already been dropped end of 2008.

chris-ccc

03-24-2009, 04:29 AM

Chris are you from Malaysia?

WARNING in Malaysia usually just to comfort the public... usually the players will be given MORE Warning... one after another...

Final Warning then Final Final Warning then Final Final Final Warning then final x1000 Final Warning.

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SibugiChai ... Yes, I am from Malaysia. :):):)

And yes, Malaysians are famous for their "never-mind-la" attitude. :p:p:p

If you read the thread 'BAM warns Mohd Hafiz Hashim & Kuan Beng Hong' (click here (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65615)), you will notice that I am still supporting HH and KBH to stay. This is because our Malaysian Juniors are still at a lower standard/level (compared to HH and KBH).

But regarding to selecting players to participate at international tournaments, MAS Juniors should be sent out more often. Otherwise, they will never be able to gain BWF ranking points. And they won't be able to be qualified for higher level BWF tournaments.
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eaglehelang

03-24-2009, 05:03 AM

U read the Berita Harian? :eek:

anyways, 80% is his coach's perception or his own? :D
I doubt mr. yoyo can go far. He ghas to "re-engineer" himself but really tiem is not on his side....:(

That was interview with Hafiz in Berita Harian entitled " Hafiz sasar aksi separuh akhir Terbuka India"(Hafiz targets Semi finish in India Open). The 80% is Hafiz's perception.;);)

limsy

03-24-2009, 06:12 AM

looks like many though bam are still as same as few years ago....interesting

phaarix

03-24-2009, 07:22 AM

HH & KBH might not achieve much lately but they are still better than Msia Juniors.. might as well kept them as sparring partner for the junior... :D

Exactly. I would prefer it if they wouldn't "warn" them in the first place. What's the point when everyone knows there is no one else currently to fall back on anyway? Although a few of the juniors have made some progress lately...

Dr. Evil

03-24-2009, 07:35 AM

eaglehelang

03-24-2009, 08:26 AM

Let me just ask you all a question. How did LCW made a breakthrough at the age of 22 when he won the Malaysia Open? Was he given more exposure than the current junior batch or he did it with pure talent.

Pls see for yourself, the tourneys LCW played in prior to the MO 2004 win :
http://internationalbadminton.org/player_info.asp?playerid=50152
Take note how far or not far LCw went in 2002, 2003.:p

Compare that to 22 y.o.(or 21++) Chong Wei Feng :
http://internationalbadminton.org/player_info.asp?playerid=52030

Not that much difference eh? CWF even won an International Challenge when he was 20 in 2007.
The continuation of this discussion will be in the "Msia back up" thread
:D

extremenanopowe

03-24-2009, 09:04 AM

whoever eat more mangoes will win. ;)

koo_fan

03-24-2009, 10:52 AM

Let me just ask you all a question. How did LCW made a breakthrough at the age of 22 when he won the Malaysia Open? Was he given more exposure than the current junior batch or he did it with pure talent.
He won over Chen Hong in semifinal, if i'm not mistaken. That was stunning!
And he never turned back.

The exposure given to Yeoh Kay Bin, his other teammate is the same, but he failed to prevail.
I must say, pure talent helps. Very much.

sekut

03-24-2009, 08:05 PM

i dont think HH will ever make a comeback...mada mada dane :((
for KBH...i really hope that he can make a comeback..fight-o :))

phaarix

03-24-2009, 08:53 PM

Pls see for yourself, the tourneys LCW played in prior to the MO 2004 win :
http://internationalbadminton.org/player_info.asp?playerid=50152
Take note how far or not far LCw went in 2002, 2003.:p

Compare that to 22 y.o.(or 21++) Chong Wei Feng :
http://internationalbadminton.org/player_info.asp?playerid=52030

Not that much difference eh? CWF even won an International Challenge when he was 20 in 2007.
The continuation of this discussion will be in the "Msia back up" thread
:D

Thanks, that's pretty interesting. I only started following badminton late 2005 (unless you count the 2004 Olympics) so I didn't know about any of this. I guess I shouldn't lose hope in any of the younger players too early then :).

koo_fan

03-24-2009, 09:40 PM

Thanks, that's pretty interesting. I only started following badminton late 2005 (unless you count the 2004 Olympics) so I didn't know about any of this. I guess I shouldn't lose hope in any of the younger players too early then :).
Yes, and sometimes we let the talents go too early. We missed them forever.
Who's lost? Us.

chris-ccc

03-24-2009, 11:57 PM

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Oh no, but Congratulations to Chen Long ...

Long CHEN (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=72F1F101-544B-4C1F-B8BE-11BB3296ADE8&player=36)http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/CHN.gif[CHN] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=72F1F101-544B-4C1F-B8BE-11BB3296ADE8&c=CHN) defeated http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/MAS.gif[MAS] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=72F1F101-544B-4C1F-B8BE-11BB3296ADE8&c=MAS)Chong Wei LEE [1] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=72F1F101-544B-4C1F-B8BE-11BB3296ADE8&player=1) 7-21, 21-16, 21-18, in 50 minutes.

It's all up to Taufik Hidayat now... to get to the Finals by himself. :(:(:(
.

volcom

03-25-2009, 12:06 AM

Chen Long in da rasses!!! :D

Oldhand

03-25-2009, 12:16 AM

Chinese MS are good.......watch out!!!

The India Open is overflowing with badminton debutants!
A few of them could turn out to be nasty surprises for the top seeds.

Spoken too soon :o

ants

03-25-2009, 12:23 AM

Can this thread be closed now? heheh

koo_fan

03-25-2009, 12:24 AM

Chen Long, cool.

koo_fan

03-25-2009, 12:24 AM

Can this thread be closed now? heheh
Well, Taufik, go taufik Go!

chris-ccc

03-25-2009, 12:41 AM

Can this thread be closed now? heheh

.
But Taufik will say... "I am still here". ;););)
.

Ningtyas

03-25-2009, 12:51 AM

.
But Taufik will say... "I am still here". ;););)
.

And he said in his blog he hope to have dinner with Chong Wei again like what they did like in Switzerland. :)
They are friends.

Pemuda

03-25-2009, 01:10 AM

Dewasa ini kita saling merayakan
Kejayaan yang akhirnya membinasakan
Apalah gunanya kematangan fikiran
Bila di jiwa kita masih lagi muda
Dan mentah
Ku lihat hijau ....

The above is the lyrics for the song, Hijau by Zainal Abidin. Any fans of Zainal here??

Just had my lunch - McD takeway (cheese burger/fries & coke) and heard Hijau being played on the radio. A simple, lovely, meaningful and well written song.

Ahhh ... the India Open badminton. Hmm ... first round, eh?? Chen Long - who was it here in this forum that told me that em' Chinese are having some shortage of quality shuttlers in their junior/back up squads???? Cant wait for our CWF or that Liew Daren guy to send LD packing in the first round.

Anyway, back to serious business ....

First round.

India Open.

Chinese junior shuttler.

I believe this is just a one off. I mean LCW have been away from home for sometime. He must be fatigue or homesick by now. It is not easy being away from home, travelling, living out of a suitcase, pressure from fans at home, NSC, Sports Minister etc. What is important is that he won the SO. And this India trip enabled him to experienced the local indian cuisine, sights, shopping which will gear him up nicely for the coming WC.

I hope Boleh fans wont throw away their drums and trumpets with this early first round exit. Lets continue to support LCW in the name of Malaysia Boleh.

As per Zainal's hijau ....

Oh..anok-anok
tokleh meghaso mandi laok
Besaing,maing ghama-ghama
Ale lo ni tuo umurnyo bejuto
Kito usoho
Jauhke dari malapetako
Ozon lo ni koho nipih nak nak aghi
Keno make asak
Hok biso wei,pasa maknusio
Seghemo bendo-bendo di dunio
Tokleh tehe
Sapa bilo-bilo

:D
:D
:D
:D
:D:D:D:D

chris-ccc

03-25-2009, 01:12 AM

And he said in his blog he hope to have dinner with Chong Wei again like what they did like in Switzerland. :)
They are friends.

.
Yes, they are good friends ... Always getting together for dinners at every tournaments they participate in. :):):)

I won't be surprised that LCW will now try to help TH on how to win the 2009 India Open.

:):):)
.

koo_fan

03-25-2009, 01:15 AM

What a great song from Prof. Pemuda.

Ni Malaysian idol 1st round boleh masuk ni.

Pemuda

03-25-2009, 01:19 AM

What a great song from Prof. Pemuda.

Ni Malaysian idol 1st round boleh masuk ni.

Oooo... Bumiku yang kian pudar
Siapa yang melihat
Di kala kita tersedar
Mungkinkah terlewat

I prefer Akademi Fantasia :p

jutawin

03-25-2009, 01:19 AM

Taufik has to wait for his rematch again LCW, as LCW already lost today..

Pemuda

03-25-2009, 01:23 AM

Taufik has to wait for his rematch again LCW, as LCW already lost today..

It was not a fair match in the first place.

LCW have been away from home for a long time. He miss his usual teh tarik and roti canai with egg. He miss his usual local tv program i.e. Raja Lawak. He miss walking around his house in his sarong.

cooler

03-25-2009, 01:25 AM

damn, i was planning to paw for chen long's 30 big paw point and i forgot to play this paw.

cooler

03-25-2009, 01:27 AM

It was not a fair match in the first place.

LCW have been away from home for a long time. He miss his usual teh tarik and roti canai with egg. He miss his usual local tv program i.e. Raja Lawak. He miss walking around his house in his sarong.maybe the Hafiz and roslin will save the day:D

Pemuda

03-25-2009, 01:41 AM

maybe Hafiz and roslin will save the day:D

Let me rally the Boleh brigade. They dont seem to be around. Wonder why? :D

abedeng

03-25-2009, 01:45 AM

damn, i was planning to paw for chen long's 30 big paw point and i forgot to play this paw.

Welcome to the club ....... :p

cooler

03-25-2009, 01:49 AM

Welcome to the club ....... :p
well, honestly, i was 75% certain CL can beat lcw but decide not to play the entire india open paw because i don't much about the other unknown players.

xymaerts

03-25-2009, 01:51 AM

Malaysia Boleh again.. hahaha.. LCW created another history in his badminton courier.. Which is to loose in ROUND 1.. He is in another pick of his courier to get this award... Nvm lah...We still support you..

george@chongwei

03-25-2009, 01:58 AM

woh woh woh, just relax and save all your energy 1st.
lets just wait till wc 1st before your mas boleh spirits burst off just like that:p
as for the akademi fantasia, or whatever song, let's leave it from here:D!

ctjcad

03-25-2009, 02:10 AM

..tough match?? unknown opponent?? too fatigue/tired??..whatever it is, we have the 1st surprise of the event; a pretty good upset, if i may add (and according to eaglehelang)..;)
...
Oh..anok-anok
tokleh meghaso mandi laok
Besaing,maing ghama-ghama
Ale lo ni tuo umurnyo bejuto
Kito usoho
Jauhke dari malapetako
Ozon lo ni koho nipih nak nak aghi
Keno make asak
Hok biso wei,pasa maknusio
Seghemo bendo-bendo di dunio
Tokleh tehe
Sapa bilo-bilo
...
..the lyrics/wording of that song sound like a Javanese song, esp. with the "o" letter..;)

xymaerts

03-25-2009, 02:10 AM

Malaysia boleh.. means apa pun boleh ma..:D:D

woh woh woh, just relax and save all your energy 1st.
lets just wait till wc 1st before your mas boleh spirits burst off just like that:p
as for the akademi fantasia, or whatever song, let's leave it from here:D!

chris-ccc

03-25-2009, 02:12 AM

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:D:D:D Hahaha ... LCW's lost has woken up Pemuda and cooler. :D:D:D

Anyway ... All attention is now focussed on Taufik Hidayat to win this 2009 India Open.
.

limsy

03-25-2009, 02:14 AM

xymaerts

03-25-2009, 02:16 AM

Of course got la.. if u start to count from the Day 1 in his badminton life...

u think lcw never lost in 1st round????:eek:

lipans

03-25-2009, 02:16 AM

LCW lost because of food poisoning.

limsy

03-25-2009, 02:17 AM

LCW lost because of food poisoning.

proof???evident???where????link???:confused:

lipans

03-25-2009, 02:21 AM

proof???evident???where????link???:confused:

I read in harian metro (malay news)

http://www.hmetro.com.my/

Pemuda

03-25-2009, 02:22 AM

LCW lost because of food poisoning.

Yes, yes, yes.
Plus, the poor lad have been away from home too long. A lot of pressure flying around playing badminton etc.

limsy

03-25-2009, 02:24 AM

cooler

03-25-2009, 02:27 AM

................................

chris-ccc

03-25-2009, 02:29 AM

I read in harian metro (malay news)

http://www.hmetro.com.my/

.
I hope that WMC, TH, Saina, and the rest are OK.
.

Oldhand

03-25-2009, 02:31 AM

http://www.hmetro.com.my/Current_News/myMetro/Wednesday/Mutakhir/20090325140637/Article

"Saya mengalami keracunan makanan yang membuatkan saya merasa lemah, Saya dapat bermain dengan baik pada set pertama tetapi tidak dapat meneruskan rentak pada set-set seterusnya kerana merasa lemah.

food poisoning made me feel weak....i manage to play well in 1st set....but i cant continue my pace in 2nd and 3rd set...

my perdiction is:bcer will say this is an excuse....;)
Er, look closely and you'll see who has come up with the excuse.
It is not any of us... it is Lee Chong Wei :o

limsy

03-25-2009, 02:33 AM

Er, look closely and you'll see who has come up with the excuse.
It is not any of us... it is Lee Chong Wei :o

yes...i mean bcer will say this is the excuse from lcw....;)

chris-ccc

03-25-2009, 02:42 AM

http://www.hmetro.com.my/Current_News/myMetro/Wednesday/Mutakhir/20090325140637/Article

"Saya mengalami keracunan makanan yang membuatkan saya merasa lemah, Saya dapat bermain dengan baik pada set pertama tetapi tidak dapat meneruskan rentak pada set-set seterusnya kerana merasa lemah.

food poisoning made me feel weak....i manage to play well in 1st set....but i cant continue my pace in 2nd and 3rd set...

my perdiction is:bcer will say this is an excuse....;)

.
Excuse or not ... is not that important.

The important thing is that: It's a BIG surprise that LCW was eliminated in the first round.

But we have to congratulate Chen Long ... Not many players can defeat a sick LCW. :p
.

Pemuda

03-25-2009, 02:48 AM

http://www.hmetro.com.my/Current_News/myMetro/Wednesday/Mutakhir/20090325140637/Article

"Saya mengalami keracunan makanan yang membuatkan saya merasa lemah, Saya dapat bermain dengan baik pada set pertama tetapi tidak dapat meneruskan rentak pada set-set seterusnya kerana merasa lemah.

food poisoning made me feel weak....i manage to play well in 1st set....but i cant continue my pace in 2nd and 3rd set...

my perdiction is:bcer will say this is an excuse....;)

Hi limsy!!

LCW must have been one unfortunate shuttler because for all the shuttlers taking part in the India Open, it looks like he is the only one down with food poisoning. Poor lad.

lipans

03-25-2009, 02:52 AM

Hi limsy!!

LCW must have been one unfortunate shuttler because for all the shuttlers taking part in the India Open, it looks like he is the only one down with food poisoning. Poor lad.

eat too many dhal sambal and capati i think.

eaglehelang

03-25-2009, 03:09 AM

Er, look closely and you'll see who has come up with the excuse.
It is not any of us... it is Lee Chong Wei :o

What is meant is it'll be & is being implied that LCW is giving excuse, maybe not really sick. Someone already posted, how come only LCW food poisoning, others not food poisoning. Normal-lah, in 2007 LCW knee injured lost also got critised badly.If knee injured till plastered also cannot, food poisioning even more so.;)

Wait for tommorrow's main newspapers if you want to read comments from assistant coach Tey or Rashid Sidek. :p:p

AlanY

03-25-2009, 03:09 AM

that would be quite a safe bet, wouldnt it?
thank you very much, Mr Lee.

robin7

03-25-2009, 03:14 AM

n|mr0d

03-25-2009, 03:20 AM

well, less than two weeks ago WR#2 losing to WR#1 was such a big fuss....

Pemuda

03-25-2009, 03:25 AM

When was the last time LCW lost to someone outside top 10?
If not mistaken, LCW lost to Boonsak @ ABC last year after a hectic first quarter.

Is world number one losing to a World Junior Champion a very big deal?

It sounded like world number ones have never lost in the first rounds from the past.

Have you ever seen the Brazilian football team being beaten by Iraq the Asian Champs?

Or Rapheal Nadal being beaten by some junior tennis champ??

Or LCW our national champ being beaten by our national junior champ??

But anyway, hold on to your horses, it is no shame being beaten by a better opponent (junior champ or no). We just got to be big enough to accept that our LCW, MS WR1 got thumped by a better shuttler today who so happens to be a junior shuttler.

Malaysia Boleh to you ;)

Pemuda

03-25-2009, 03:27 AM

well, less than two weeks ago WR#2 losing to WR#1 was such a big fuss....

hahahaha ... different standards la.
When Malaysian shuttlers beat the rest, we are the best. Malaysia Boleh and all.

But when Malaysians shuttlers got beaten, toys will be thrown out from the pram. :D

phaarix

03-25-2009, 03:27 AM

From Taufik's blog -

"...meeting with Chong Wei again, hope we'll be able to have dinner again like in Switzerland."

!! Oh no...!

pjswift

03-25-2009, 03:40 AM

hahahaha ... different standards la.
When Malaysian shuttlers beat the rest, we are the best. Malaysia Boleh and all.

But when Malaysians shuttlers got beaten, toys will be thrown out from the pram. :D
This is so funny.Why do your posts hint so much of your tremendous experience or gift as a nanny.

robin7

03-25-2009, 03:42 AM

Have you ever seen the Brazilian football team being beaten by Iraq the Asian Champs?

Or Rapheal Nadal being beaten by some junior tennis champ??

Or LCW our national champ being beaten by our national junior champ??

But anyway, hold on to your horses, it is no shame being beaten by a better opponent (junior champ or no). We just got to be big enough to accept that our LCW, MS WR1 got thumped by a better shuttler today who so happens to be a junior shuttler.

Malaysia Boleh to you ;)
You are comparing apple with orange...

Examples of world number ones losing to teenagers:
(1) Roger Federer was beaten by teenager Andy Murray a few times.
(2) Martina Navratilova was beaten a few times by teenager Steffi Graff.
(3) Chris Evert was beaten a few times by a teenager named Steffi Graff.

Btw, it's disrespectful to mis-spell player's name. It's Rafael Nadal.

pjswift

03-25-2009, 03:43 AM

From Taufik's blog -

"...meeting with Chong Wei again, hope we'll be able to have dinner again like in Switzerland."

!! Oh no...!
Well, this time TH will belanja LCW!

Pemuda

03-25-2009, 04:57 AM

You are comparing apple with orange...

Examples of world number ones losing to teenagers:
(1) Roger Federer was beaten by teenager Andy Murray a few times.
(2) Martina Navratilova was beaten a few times by teenager Steffi Graff.
(3) Chris Evert was beaten a few times by a teenager named Steffi Graff.

Btw, it's disrespectful to mis-spell player's name. It's Rafael Nadal.

Federer, Navratilova & Evert when they were world #1s held major titles. Talking about comparing apple with orange.

About mis-spelling names, it's Stefanie Maria Graf. Disrespectful.

badMania

03-25-2009, 05:06 AM

When was the last time LCW lost to someone outside top 10?
If not mistaken, LCW lost to Boonsak @ ABC last year after a hectic first quarter.

Is world number one losing to a World Junior Champion a very big deal?

It sounded like world number ones have never lost in the first rounds from the past.

Well, Lin Dan lost to Park Sung Hwan in the first round of the China SS 2007 and in the first round of Athens Olympics 2004:o Lee Chong Wei himself had suffered first round losses at the Singapore and Swiss SS 2007.

The two-times World Champions Nova Widianto/Liliyana Natsir got humbled in the first round of Denmark SS 2007 & Korea SS 2008. Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan also lost to the Japanese pair in the first rounds of AE 2006 & 2008.

Well, of course these players have all won the MAJOR titles....shame on Lee Chong Wei ;)

limsy

03-25-2009, 05:10 AM

Well, Lin Dan lost to Park Sung Hwan in the first round of the China SS 2007 and in the first round of Athens Olympics 2004:o Lee Chong Wei himself had suffered first round losses at the Singapore and Swiss SS 2007.

The two-times World Champions Nova Widianto/Liliyana Natsir got humbled in the first round of Denmark SS 2007 & Korea SS 2008. Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan also lost to the Japanese pair in the first rounds of AE 2006 & 2008.

Well, of course these players have all won the MAJOR titles....shame on Lee Chong Wei ;)

yes....u can never compare lcw with all this player....they have og gold medal....wc...ae....and more....how on earth u have this kind of idea to compare a grapes to a watermeleon....;)....and u must remember....lcw is FROM MALAYSIA....that made his defeat and lost special...;)....

eaglehelang

03-25-2009, 05:11 AM

well, less than two weeks ago WR#2 losing to WR#1 was such a big fuss....

That's cos in the preceding months, it was such a big fuss that :
1) The WR#2 & current reigining OG champ & WC champ, has beaten the WR#1 3 consequence times (OG, CO2, AE)
2) The WR#1 has not won a title outside Msia when he is WR#1 (repeated many times if you notice).
;)

Pemuda

03-25-2009, 05:11 AM

This is so funny.Why do your posts hint so much of your tremendous experience or gift as a nanny.

Glad you find it funny. There used to be a nanny near my housing estate. Kind hearted lady, I had a lot of respect for her. She is a spinster. Must be tough for her being a spinster, being frustrated and all but that lady was just amazing, spinster or no spinster.

robin7

03-25-2009, 05:57 AM

Federer, Navratilova & Evert when they were world #1s held major titles. Talking about comparing apple with orange.

About mis-spelling names, it's Stefanie Maria Graf. Disrespectful.
If those major titlists can be upset by unheralded teenagers, what more do you expect from a "jaguh kampung"? :rolleyes:

Stefanie Maria Graf is more known as Steffi Graf. :rolleyes:

koo_fan

03-25-2009, 06:25 AM

well, less than two weeks ago WR#2 losing to WR#1 was such a big fuss....

Yeah.This is what we called real sport. Badminton is a competitive sport and Chen Long proved it today. Lee Chong Wei proved it last week.
Man U lost to Fulham was an upset too. Who dare to say Fulham is a better team than Man U now? :mad::p:D
Who played better at the moment, will win.

Now, Chong Wei. Drop the food poisoning thingy and move on.
You know we are all behind you.

badMania

03-25-2009, 06:44 AM

Stefanie Maria Graf is more known as Steffi Graf. :rolleyes:

Her WTA profile lists her as Steffi Graf (GER) ;)

http://www.sonyericssonwtatour.com/2/players/playerprofiles/Playerbio.asp?PlayerID=70044

hcyong

03-25-2009, 06:45 AM

Things are getting a bit too personal around here ...

badMania

03-25-2009, 06:49 AM

So, the logic goes as follows future World No 1:
If you are World No 1 and you lost in the first round of competition:
1. If you have won major titles already, it's no big deal, you have those gold medals stacked in your cabinet already :)
2. If you haven't won major titles, you are condemned big time.

hcyong

03-25-2009, 06:49 AM

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Excuse or not ... is not that important.

The important thing is that: It's a BIG surprise that LCW was eliminated in the first round.

But we have to congratulate Chen Long ... Not many players can defeat a sick LCW. :p
.

It really depends on how sick he is. If he is really, really sick, bedridden kind of thing, I might stand a chance.

badMania

03-25-2009, 06:53 AM

Things are getting a bit too personal around here ...

Hasn't that always been the case when it involves Malaysian players, esp the beloved Lee Chong Wei and Koo Kien Keat/Tan Boon Heong ? ;)

A victory over Lin Dan in the Swiss Open SS 2009 -- no big deal because Lin Dan was not on-form and the Swiss Open is not a biggie at all as Lin Dan had won it before.

First round loss in the India Open GP Gold 2009 to Chen Long -- a big waste of tax payers money, totally shameful and confirmed prediction that Lee Chong Wei is yet again a yoyo player :rolleyes:

george@chongwei

03-25-2009, 07:12 AM

someone here looks like just couldnt maybe accept chong wei's defeat today..
what to do? he had already lost, u argue here and there also no use.

Pemuda

03-25-2009, 07:13 AM

If those major titlists can be upset by unheralded teenagers, what more do you expect from a "jaguh kampung"? :rolleyes:

Unheralded teenagers?? You may want to check your facts. Unlike Chen Long who has yet to win any senior level tournament, Andy Murray & Steffi Graf have won some titles at the senior level when they upset Federer & Navratilova/Evert respectively.

Stefanie Maria Graf is more known as Steffi Graf. :rolleyes:

Yes, it's Graf not Graff as below. It's disrespectful to mis-spell player's name.

(2) Martina Navratilova was beaten a few times by teenager Steffi Graff.
(3) Chris Evert was beaten a few times by a teenager named Steffi Graff.

Pemuda

03-25-2009, 07:16 AM

Her WTA profile lists her as Steffi Graf (GER) ;)

http://www.sonyericssonwtatour.com/2/players/playerprofiles/Playerbio.asp?PlayerID=70044

Hey, thanks. I have already corrected the chap below for being disrespectful.

(2) Martina Navratilova was beaten a few times by teenager Steffi Graff.
(3) Chris Evert was beaten a few times by a teenager named Steffi Graff.

koo_fan

03-25-2009, 07:20 AM

someone here looks like just couldnt maybe accept chong wei's defeat today..
what to do? he had already lost, u argue here and there also no use.
Ye la kot. So, let's all wishing him... Good luck!

joelabb

03-25-2009, 07:24 AM

From Taufik's blog -

"...meeting with Chong Wei again, hope we'll be able to have dinner again like in Switzerland."

!! Oh no...!

May be they did have a dinner last night while LCW when to the restroom TH must have put something in LCW dhal curry :rolleyes: This is my comspirasy teory :D:D:D

koo_fan

03-25-2009, 07:32 AM

May be they did have a dinner last night while LCW when to the restroom TH must have put something in LCW dhal curry :rolleyes: This is my comspirasy teory :D:D:D

A'ha. Now i know..
Damn you, Taufik.:p

Pemuda

03-25-2009, 07:33 AM

Time out!

Here, enjoy this beautiful song with meaningful lyrics written by someone special :D

http://www.actionext.com/names_z/zainal_abidin_lyrics/hijau.html

koo_fan

03-25-2009, 07:46 AM

Time out!

Here, enjoy this beautiful song with meaningful lyrics written by someone special :D

http://www.actionext.com/names_z/zainal_abidin_lyrics/hijau.html
Err..I think Zainal Abidin has something to say to you, would like to do Hijau re-make?

badMania

03-25-2009, 07:52 AM

We might see both players eliminated today as Hu Yun took the first set 21-18 and is in a good shape to take the second set :eek:

george@chongwei

03-25-2009, 07:54 AM

May be they did have a dinner last night while LCW when to the restroom TH must have put something in LCW dhal curry :rolleyes: This is my comspirasy teory :D:D:D
lmao, or the muruku that chong wei ate yesterday has something dirty inside:rolleyes:

joelabb

03-25-2009, 07:57 AM

We might see both players eliminated today as Hu Yun took the first set 21-18 and is in a good shape to take the second set :eek:

1st and 3rd already out let see how 2nd fate :rolleyes:

koo_fan

03-25-2009, 08:03 AM

We might see both players eliminated today as Hu Yun took the first set 21-18 and is in a good shape to take the second set :eek:
Taufik took the 2nd set.
Survival for this thread depends on the 3rd set. Go for it Taufik!

george@chongwei

03-25-2009, 08:17 AM

lmao, or the muruku that chong wei ate yesterday has something dirty inside:rolleyes:
or maybe chong wei ate to much putu mayam or tosai already:D :( sigh.

george@chongwei

03-25-2009, 08:20 AM

Taufik took the 2nd set.
Survival for this thread depends on the 3rd set. Go for it Taufik!
wow, tied at 16 all now..another upset here?

george@chongwei

03-25-2009, 08:21 AM

wow, taufik 20-19 now!!!:eek:

george@chongwei

03-25-2009, 08:24 AM

th survived a scare too..winning the 3rd set 21-19..hehe

phaarix

03-25-2009, 08:26 AM

Phew!! Lets hope all the food poisoning problems are over by tomorrow :). Or else there may be many more upsets to come (upsets are ok... but not if ALL the top players go out - then it gets a little boring).

koo_fan

03-25-2009, 08:27 AM

Hey..taufik made it.

Ok, this thread can stay.

joelabb

03-25-2009, 08:29 AM

or maybe chong wei ate to much putu mayam or tosai already:D :( sigh.

How can he resist original putumayam and tosai ma. I can't imagine how good the taste if I am LCW I'm sure willing to sacrifice my tummy for them :D

joelabb

03-25-2009, 08:38 AM

Look like TH was lucky this time 21-19 rubber game

SibugiChai

03-25-2009, 01:33 PM

Look like TH was lucky this time 21-19 rubber game

Indian curry to hot for Taufik... :D

avataar

03-25-2009, 01:35 PM

avataar

03-25-2009, 01:44 PM

chris-ccc

03-25-2009, 02:09 PM

... CW started very well breezing through the 1st game but was taken aback (according to my perception : suprised) by CL winning game 2. LCW was clearly under pressure in game 3 as CL was matching him all through the game. the moment of the match was when CL was leading 19-18 in the 3rd and serving.

CL served but LCW hit the shuttle out indicating to the ref he wasnt ready and a let should be called. The ref ruled against him saying that if LCW was not ready he shud not have received/hit the shuttle at all. If he has received the shuttle he is deemed to have played the point.

Agreed that this was way too late in the match but given the fact the CL seemed to have the measure of LCW and also a liitle bit of pressure im sure only further tightenend the screws on LCW..

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avataar ... Thank you for your court-side report.

Yes, that was certainly a close match. And there must be something wrong with LCW. He must be aware of this simple law - 'If not ready, do not attempt to return the shuttlecock'. If he has hit the shuttle, surely it cannot be a 'Let'. This is unbelievable. :eek::eek::eek:

LCW must be under great stress for him to make such a blunder.

Anyway, Chen Long must have played well. He has a good chance to face Taufik at the Finals.
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SibugiChai

03-25-2009, 02:12 PM

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avataar ... Thank you for your court-side report.

Yes, that was certainly a close match. And there must be something wrong with LCW. He must be aware of this simple law - 'If not ready, do not attempt to return the shuttlecock'. If he has hit the shuttle, surely it cannot be a 'Let'. This is unbelievable. :eek::eek::eek:

There must be great stress on LCW for him to make such a blunder.

Anyway Chen Long must have played well.
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Maybe like taufik, CW is watcfhing some other games onside court or even glimpsing at pretty women among their specatators..

OneToughBirdie

03-25-2009, 02:13 PM

..for real..(maybe i'm teasing the many or few Taufik's supporters, die-hard fans or sympathizers)..:p
I'd be surprised if both LCW and TH meet in the Final.
I'd be surprised if LCW doesn't go to the Final.
I'd be surprised if TH does go to the Final.

I think you get what i'm trying to get across (in my posts in this thread)..;)

Oops...wrong prediction...don't count chicken before they are hatched. When I first saw the draw populated by almost all CHN MS Juniors, I sense that the path is not so easy as many predicted for a TH-LCW finals. These CHN juniors are tough, fit, hungry and well trained/coached and IO is the perfect tourney to send them to and rest the big 3. On the other hand, LCW playing so many tourneys is not a prudent choice and MAS sending all these past-the-shelf-life players like Roslin, KBH, etc is a waste of $, should do what CHN did by sending MAS MS juniors instead.

SibugiChai

03-25-2009, 02:18 PM

Oops...wrong prediction...don't count chicken before they are hatched. When I first saw the draw populated by almost all CHN MS Juniors, I sense that the path is not so easy as many predicted for a TH-LCW finals. These CHN juniors are tough, fit, hungry and well trained/coached and IO is the perfect tourney to send them to and rest the big 3. On the other hand, LCW playing so many tourneys is not a prudent choice and MAS sending all these past-the-shelf-life players like Roslin, KBH, etc is a waste of $, should do what CHN did by sending MAS MS juniors instead.

yeah... sending Mas junior sure save a lot, especially on Hotels... they only gonna stay one or max 2 nights

limsy

03-25-2009, 02:20 PM

yeah... sending Mas junior sure save a lot, especially on Hotels... they only gonna stay one or max 2 nights

then no need send better....save more TAXPAYER MONEY....:cool:

SibugiChai

03-25-2009, 02:24 PM

then no need send better....save more TAXPAYER MONEY....:cool:

If dont send, people will say MAS dont give exposure to junior! Must send... on airasia... cheap fligth... 6 person stay in one single room...

limsy

03-25-2009, 02:28 PM

If dont send, people will say MAS dont give exposure to junior! Must send... on airasia... cheap fligth... 6 person stay in one single room...

nah...WE MUST SAVE TAXPAYER MONEY....why waste money on those tat lost in early round???:rolleyes:....wait Pxxxxx start a thread call:STOP SENDING PLAYER TAT LOST IN EARLY ROUND(EXAMPLE: LEE CHONG WEI) TO TOURNAMENT...WASTE TAXPAYER MONEY...;)...

if send...say waste money....if not send...say no exposure for junior....aiya...both also cannot...then how???:cool:

OneToughBirdie

03-25-2009, 02:30 PM

yeah... sending Mas junior sure save a lot, especially on Hotels... they only gonna stay one or max 2 nights

Actually, MAS did send her juniors to IO this time, but what I really meant is that MAS should send the juniors to more tourneys, they may get wipped but that is the way for them to learn. If the current juniors are not good enough, and as Pemuda said, MAS should look at the 12-15 yrs old and find the potentials there...after LCW retires, MAS baddy may be in a downturn and to lay claim to any sport that MAS can be among the world best, maybe MAS would have to look at Sepak Takraw to claim to be among the best in the world. Now, if only Sepak Takraw can be an OLY sport?????.:p:D

SibugiChai

03-25-2009, 02:30 PM

nah...WE MUST SAVE TAXPAYER MONEY....why waste money on those tat lost in early round???:rolleyes:....wait Pxxxxx start a thread call:STOP SENDING PLAYER TAT LOST IN EARLY ROUND(EXAMPLE: LEE CHONG WEI) TO TOURNAMENT...WASTE TAXPAYER MONEY...;)...

if send...say waste money....if not send...say no exposure for junior....aiya...both also cannot...then how???:cool:

The only way forward is PROFESIONALISM... like tennis... No wasting taxpayer money and the players has to pay TAX as well!

koo_fan

03-25-2009, 02:31 PM

hi all

interesting to read some comments in this thread. my 2 cents about both LCW and TH today.

LCW was beaten by CL - as simple as that, any mention of being sick etc is as someone said before in this thread - an excuse. CW started very well breezing through the 1st game but was taken aback(according to my perception : suprised) by CL winning game 2. LCW was clearly under pressure in game 3 as CL was matching him all through the game. the moment of the match was when CL was leading 19-18 in the 3rd and serving.

CL served but LCW hit the shuttle out indicating to the ref he wasnt ready and a let should be called. The ref ruled against him saying that if LCW was not ready he shud not have received/hit the shuttle at all. If he has received the shuttle he is deemed to have played the point.

Agreed that this was way too late in the match but given the fact the CL seemed to have the measure of LCW and also a liitle bit of pressure im sure only further tightenend the screws on LCW..
Thanks Avataar.
I guess that was the first description of the upset lost.

As much as i am differ with Pemuda ( in his new popular thread)with how we should support the players, i agree that facing it with guts is crucial, vital, and is a need.
Injuries, food poisoning and what not. Leave it.
People will not listen to the reasons, all they know is you lost, that's it.
They didn't know that you failed to hit the shuttle because of this and that,
it's about you failed to hit it well.

Rest the case, please. Move on. If you want to learn something from a champion, it's about winning after losing.

OneToughBirdie

03-25-2009, 02:32 PM

If dont send, people will say MAS dont give exposure to junior! Must send... on airasia... cheap fligth... 6 person stay in one single room...

6 in a room...that is a Groupie...you have a twisted mind, urggh!!LOL!:D:p:rolleyes:

chris-ccc

03-25-2009, 02:33 PM

taufiks 2nd rd match against the HK player was whimsical to say in the least. though the scoreline suggests a close match(full credit to Yun HU) taufik was never going to let go of crucial points.

all through the match i spotted him 1st looking at arvind bhat's match at most of the change of point's and later watching vita marissa/nadya melati's match.

he is up against it when he faces arvind bhat who is in the form of his life and absolutely ruthless against ashton chen.

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That's the bad habit of Taufik, isn't it? :(:(:(

Whenever he thinks that he can win, he is always taking it easy and thinking of his next match, and not his current one.

Don't know why he doesn't want to go about quickly finishing his current opponent, therefore having time to observe his next opponent's game. :confused::confused::confused:
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limsy

03-25-2009, 02:35 PM

avataar

03-25-2009, 03:22 PM

TH - a look here , a look there
LCW - very very pensive

ctjcad

03-25-2009, 05:16 PM

..he survived a close shave, didn't he??..;)
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When I first saw the draw populated by almost all CHN MS Juniors, I sense that the path is not so easy as many predicted for a TH-LCW finals.
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Well, i did indicate that the likelihood of both LCW and TH meeting in the Final is nil if not minimal, right??..
However, i did expect LCW to give a better result and progress further than Taufik..

badMania

03-25-2009, 08:02 PM

As the highest seed in this tourney, I do well hope that Taufik Hidayat can win the MS title. At least, INA will have something to shout about after more than 2 barren months since the MAS SS :o

chris-ccc

03-25-2009, 08:42 PM

LCW - very very pensive.
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=52674&stc=1&d=1238012482
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It looks like Lee Chong Wei is unbelievably tired.
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chris-ccc

03-25-2009, 08:47 PM

As the highest seed in this tourney, I do well hope that Taufik Hidayat can win the MS title. At least, INA will have something to shout about after more than 2 barren months since the MAS SS :o

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Same here ... Hope that Taufik Hidayat is determined to win this MS title.
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eaglehelang

03-25-2009, 08:47 PM

sekut

03-25-2009, 08:48 PM

as i said before always expect the unexpected..:))
i do hope more surprises from IO :))
it makes our lives *toottttt*

pjswift

03-25-2009, 09:36 PM

hi all

interesting to read some comments in this thread. my 2 cents about both LCW and TH today.

LCW was beaten by CL - as simple as that, any mention of being sick etc is as someone said before in this thread - an excuse. CW started very well breezing through the 1st game but was taken aback(according to my perception : suprised) by CL winning game 2. LCW was clearly under pressure in game 3 as CL was matching him all through the game. the moment of the match was when CL was leading 19-18 in the 3rd and serving.

CL served but LCW hit the shuttle out indicating to the ref he wasnt ready and a let should be called. The ref ruled against him saying that if LCW was not ready he shud not have received/hit the shuttle at all. If he has received the shuttle he is deemed to have played the point.

Agreed that this was way too late in the match but given the fact the CL seemed to have the measure of LCW and also a liitle bit of pressure im sure only further tightenend the screws on LCW..
Excellent report.Thanks so much,avataar.My apologies for the food poisoning comment.But I have been warned that it's important to bring your own bottled water(like North Korea did to OG08!) or pay for Evian or Perrier..
It's quite clear that LCW underestimated CL,the way he underestimated LD's fightback to close out G1 in AE.CL deserved the win and it would be interesting to see in how many ways he can change his strategy.A quick check of his past matches' statistics suggest that if CL burns up too much fuel in G1, it does not favour him.He needs ample fuel for finishing.(I hope CL gets to play in SO and have another R1 match with LCW.)
Good thing the umpire knows his stuff.Cheers for IO!!!
Isn't TH quite a busybody?Maybe his shopping spree will start today.
This is turning out to be an exciting tournament.If CHN MS wins, IO will be considered major title.

george@chongwei

03-26-2009, 03:21 AM

thanks for the reports, avatar

limsy

03-26-2009, 04:18 AM

In the meantime(since the original suggestion was discard the current back up), while waiting for the 13 to 15 y.o.youngsters to be groomed, who's going play MS2 & MS3 in TC?Uncle WCH? Yoyo Hafiz? KLRC's LTS? :p
(continued in Prof Players thread)

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ask lcw to play all 3 ms match...;)...or ask our pemuda to play in 2nd ms....dato for 3rd ms....

problem solve...as easy as tat...when someone come out with big talk....they never think about what will happen if they REALLY do so...;)...

oh....maybe just stop sending squad to tc and uc and also sc....;)...easy....SAVE TAXPAYER MONEY...oh....but malaysia will held tc and uc next year....:eek:....ask bwf cancel it....SAVE TAXPAYER MOENY....;)

carine

03-26-2009, 04:44 AM

Food poisoning put paid to shuttler Lee Chong Wei’s hopes of winning his first back-to-back title outside Malaysia yesterday. The world No. 1 was beaten 21-7, 16-21, 18-21 by unseeded Chinese and former world junior champion Chen Long in the first round of the Indian Open in Hyderabad. It was the first time in 22 months that Chong Wei ended up as a first-round casualty after the defeat by compatriot Mohd Hafiz Hashim at the Singapore Open in 2007.
The defeat also put an end to his impressive record of six successive final appearance since the China Open last November.
Chong Wei, who bagged the Swiss Open earlier this month with a fine win over arch rival Lin Dan of China after losing at the preceding All-England, attributed the early exit to the stomach upset he suffered the previous day.
“We have been having our meals at the hotel for the past few days. But I was getting bored with it and we went out for food,” he said in a telephone interview.
“I started to feel weak this morning. I started the match well but I was not in a good condition. I could have beaten him under normal circumstances but this was just one of those days. It was the first time that I have experienced this.”
However, Chong Wei, who was named the national Sportsman of the Year on Monday, saw it as a blessing in disguise that it happened to him now than later.
He will return to the same Gachibowli Sta*dium in August to try and become the first Malay*sian to win at the world championships.
“I was told to be careful of the food we take in India but I never thought it would happen to me. In fact, Wong Mew Choo (Malaysian women’s singles player) also did not feel well,” he said.
“I am always careful of the food whenever I go for competitions. But we had no choice because it was difficult to get food if we returned late to the hotel.
“We even had to buy water from outside and that was only possible if the bus stopped at a mini market on the way back.
“I hope the conditions improves when we return for the world championships. I will not be surprised if some of the players chose not to go.”

http://thestar.com.my/sports/story.asp?file=/2009/3/26/sports/3562026&sec=sports

chris-ccc

03-26-2009, 01:07 PM

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http://thestar.com.my/sports/story.asp?file=/2009/3/26/sports/3562026&sec=sports

Thank you carine ... for the news article. :):):)

Well, Lee Chong Wei will need to be more careful when he returns for the 2009 WC.

But credit should be given to Chen Long. He has played well. And he has arrived at the Quarter-Finals to be played tomorrow, Friday 27-Mar-2009. He will be facing another Lee from Malaysia; this time Lee Tsuen Seng (seeded 8).

Fortunately, Wong Mew Choo played against a weaker opponent in Round 1 yesterday. She just made it by 21-19 in the 3rd game. Today, in Round 2, she was also forced into a 3-game match. And only won by a small margin again, 21-18 in the 3rd game. Tomorrow, at the Quarter-Finals, she will be facing a tougher opponent, Yu Hirayama (seeded 6) from Japan.
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Pemuda

03-27-2009, 06:21 PM

Actually, MAS did send her juniors to IO this time, but what I really meant is that MAS should send the juniors to more tourneys, they may get wipped but that is the way for them to learn. If the current juniors are not good enough, and as Pemuda said, MAS should look at the 12-15 yrs old and find the potentials there...after LCW retires, MAS baddy may be in a downturn and to lay claim to any sport that MAS can be among the world best, maybe MAS would have to look at Sepak Takraw to claim to be among the best in the world. Now, if only Sepak Takraw can be an OLY sport?????.:p:D

I read somewhere in this thread someone said that in BJSS they are already training them 13 - 17 year olds. I would like to ask that person to think a little, having a group of 13 - 17 year olds currently now in BJSS doesnt mean that Malaysia are already 'looking and grooming' for the future?? BJSS is only one school in Malaysia. What about the rest of the schools in Malaysia??? Do we have a structure/process in place to identify/develop/coach potential shuttlers there??

We are saying we are going to win our first OG gold come 2012. But look at our juniors or back up shuttlers. CWF & co are already in their 20s and are struggling to make the main draw for the SS.

We need to look and think long term, next year's TC, lets be honest we aint gonna cut it. So, what is this talk about 'who is going to play MS2 & MS3'?? It doesnt matter who play cos we aint gonna cut it because we are short on the quality side.

Look at the future, and the future is OG 2016 onwards. Thats where effort and resources ought to be concentrated at - the 12 years old age group. This mean we need to ensure badminton coaches at all our schools are trained and certified to coach badminton (not some English teacher doubling up as badminton coach). We also need to develop badminton clubs and leagues at every grassroot level so that talents can be nutured and developed.

And by the way, Thailand have overtaken us in sepak takraw. :D

OneToughBirdie

03-27-2009, 08:23 PM

[quote=Pemuda;1131666]I read somewhere in this thread someone said that in BJSS they are already training them 13 - 17 year olds. I would like to ask that person to think a little, having a group of 13 - 17 year olds currently now in BJSS doesnt mean that Malaysia are already 'looking and grooming' for the future?? BJSS is only one school in Malaysia. What about the rest of the schools in Malaysia??? Do we have a structure/process in place to identify/develop/coach potential shuttlers there??
As I said times before, well said, couldn't agree with you more.

We are saying we are going to win our first OG gold come 2012. But look at our juniors or back up shuttlers. CWF & co are already in their 20s and are struggling to make the main draw for the SS.
Our middle age Juniors can't make make it out IO09 with CHN main squad 'tidor' (sleeping). Well, so does CHN juniors as well except for one bugger called Dragon Chen:D:p

We need to look and think long term, next year's TC, lets be honest we aint gonna cut it. So, what is this talk about 'who is going to play MS2 & MS3'?? It doesnt matter who play cos we aint gonna cut it because we are short on the quality side.
Now, if we pump some ginseng to revitalize WCH and HH...maybe....err! forget it, wasting gensing anyway...:p

Look at the future, and the future is OG 2016 onwards. Thats where effort and resources ought to be concentrated at - the 12 years old age group. This mean we need to ensure badminton coaches at all our schools are trained and certified to coach badminton (not some English teacher doubling up as badminton coach). We also need to develop badminton clubs and leagues at every grassroot level so that talents can be nutured and developed. Ha! Ha! Ha! actually that is so true, I learnt baddy from my english teacher in primary school and not knowing better as a 7-8 yrs old, I looked up to him with awe thinking he is so good, the equal of ZJH...err, maybe not that good a comparison.

And by the way, Thailand have overtaken us in sepak takraw. That is a blessing...if our Takraw team is the world best and win WC or OLY gold, just imagine how many Datuks they will be...whew!!!:p:D

OneToughBirdie

03-27-2009, 08:29 PM

Actually Pemuda, jokes aside...what you said make sense and rational....someone needs to make the tough decision to look long term...because comes the day Dato retires as a happy millionaire, MAS baddy will be in seclusion and the OLY/WC gold...forget it, bronze maybe, may seem so far away.

mangbuhril

03-28-2009, 01:45 AM

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That's the bad habit of Taufik, isn't it? :(:(:(

Whenever he thinks that he can win, he is always taking it easy and thinking of his next match, and not his current one.

Don't know why he doesn't want to go about quickly finishing his current opponent, therefore having time to observe his next opponent's game. :confused::confused::confused:
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but the most important thing is Taufik wins and i really hope he concentrate and focus more on his game:p

chris-ccc

03-28-2009, 01:59 AM

but the most important thing is Taufik wins and i really hope he concentrate and focus more on his game. :p

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I think Taufik Hidayat will make it to the Finals.

My Prediction:
2009 India Open Mens Singles Final to be Hafiz Hashim -vs- Taufik Hidayat

:):):)
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madbad

03-28-2009, 02:03 AM

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I think Taufik Hidayat will make it to the Finals.

My Prediction:
2009 India Open Mens Singles Final to be Hafiz Hashim -vs- Taufik Hidayat

:):):)
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Goodness :eek:. Only a brave man would stake his reputation on the Yoyo

chris-ccc

03-28-2009, 09:50 AM

Goodness :eek:. Only a brave man would stake his reputation on the Yoyo.

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:D:D:D Might be brave, but predictions are usually behaving like a yoyo. :D:D:D

Anyway, here we have the results:
2009 India Open MS Semi-Finals Match (Saturday 28-Mar-2009):
* Taufik HIDAYAT [2] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=72F1F101-544B-4C1F-B8BE-11BB3296ADE8&player=2)http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/INA.gif[INA] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=72F1F101-544B-4C1F-B8BE-11BB3296ADE8&c=INA) defeated http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/INA.gif[INA] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=72F1F101-544B-4C1F-B8BE-11BB3296ADE8&c=INA)Tommy SUGIARTO (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=72F1F101-544B-4C1F-B8BE-11BB3296ADE8&player=13)
21-13, 21-11 in 36 minutes
* Muhammad Hafiz HASHIM [10] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=72F1F101-544B-4C1F-B8BE-11BB3296ADE8&player=10)http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/MAS.gif[MAS] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=72F1F101-544B-4C1F-B8BE-11BB3296ADE8&c=MAS) defeated http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/CHN.gif[CHN] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=72F1F101-544B-4C1F-B8BE-11BB3296ADE8&c=CHN)Long CHEN (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=72F1F101-544B-4C1F-B8BE-11BB3296ADE8&player=36)
21-18, 19-21, 21-15 in 51 minutes
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drifit

03-28-2009, 10:03 AM

C,
want to change the thread title to Muhammad Hafiz Hashim & Taufik Hidayat at the 2009 India Open?
:D:p

that night, i have sneak peak TH vs KBH during quarterfinal live on astro. TH played like low-energy...:(
nevertheless, let the best man wins!! BMW

eaglehelang

03-28-2009, 10:09 AM

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:D:D:D Might be brave, but predictions are usually behaving like a yoyo. :D:D:D

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YOu deserve the :D you put up Chris, your bravery paid off.

pjswift

03-28-2009, 10:24 AM

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:D:D:D Might be brave, but predictions are usually behaving like a yoyo. :D:D:D

Anyway, here we have the results:
2009 India Open MS Semi-Finals Match (Saturday 28-Mar-2009):
* Taufik HIDAYAT [2] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=72F1F101-544B-4C1F-B8BE-11BB3296ADE8&player=2)http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/INA.gif[INA] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=72F1F101-544B-4C1F-B8BE-11BB3296ADE8&c=INA) defeated http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/INA.gif[INA] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=72F1F101-544B-4C1F-B8BE-11BB3296ADE8&c=INA)Tommy SUGIARTO (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=72F1F101-544B-4C1F-B8BE-11BB3296ADE8&player=13)
21-13, 21-11 in 36 minutes
* Muhammad Hafiz HASHIM [10] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=72F1F101-544B-4C1F-B8BE-11BB3296ADE8&player=10)http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/MAS.gif[MAS] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=72F1F101-544B-4C1F-B8BE-11BB3296ADE8&c=MAS) defeated http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/CHN.gif[CHN] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=72F1F101-544B-4C1F-B8BE-11BB3296ADE8&c=CHN)Long CHEN (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=72F1F101-544B-4C1F-B8BE-11BB3296ADE8&player=36)
21-18, 19-21, 21-15 in 51 minutes
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Congrats, Chris! Fortune favours the brave.
And Hafiz is turning out to be a 50min specialist,3 or 4 times in a row now.His stamina's been impressive,maybe because most of the time he just walks around...?