Dear Boleh fans,

Ok, LCW finally won away from home as the MS WR1, he also finally managed to beat LD convincingly yesterday too.

KKK/TBH as well won the SO MD too.

Well, judging from all the feel good postings I see being plastered all over the forum, allow me to ask you all a question; can we win our first WC this year?

Ok, time to walk the talk now, lets have a specific answer rather than the usual "i hope LCW or KKK/TBH will win", "I will pray n hope very hard", "If the draw is good" etc etc.

Can we win the WC for the first time this year? Yes or no?

Allow me then to start the ball rolling with my prediction...

I will say 'No'.

Why??

For the MS, though LCW beat LD yesterday, I am yet to be convinced that LCW can deliver on the big stage. And it will be a different LD come the WC than the one we saw last night.

MD, I think the usual Malaysian temperament will set in i.e. win one tournament, they will lose their heads and will come crashing down next.

WS,WD,XD ... with respect, lets hope they show up in nice matching badminton kits.

Again, lets lay em' cards all on the table. Can Malaysian win its first WC this year? Yes or no?

Oh yes ... one more thing before I forget, Malaysia Boleh to you lot!

Answer is capable of, but mostly likely NOT!

5 months to go. is this pre-heat discussion?

5 months to go. is this pre-heat discussion?

lava has to flow under the mountain before the mountain erupts ! :)

Owh..quite early!

I guess we shud wait first. Now, no matter how unprepared or unconvincing we look, c'mon. Work on that. Do not simply say can't.
5 months is not too long to build the best team, neither too short for that.

There's a lot of action in store before the 2009 World Championships.

India Open - Grand Prix Gold - March 2009
Asian Badminton Championships - April 2009
Sudirman Cup - May 2009
Philippines Open - Grand Prix Gold - June 2009
Singapore Open - Super Series - June 2009
Indonesia Open - Super Series - June 2009
Thailand Open - Grand Prix Gold - June 2009

I'd hesitate to place any bets before at least the Sudirman Cup is over ;)

5 months to go. is this pre-heat discussion?
lava has to flow under the mountain before the mountain erupts ! :)
..Pemuda is planning to have this thread as the most posted and viewed thread in his collection of "Can M'sia Win or Boleh at (such & such tourney)?' threads..;)

..Pemuda is planning to have this thread as the most posted and viewed thread in his collection of "Can M'sia Win or Boleh at (such & such tourney)?' threads..;)
No i think he's trying to burn off the excessive boleh energy gradually so that when WC time comes, the bolehians will be exhausted:p

..the "Can M'sia Boleh at the AE?" thread, as it was started about 1 month ago and it has already garnered over 500+ posts. If the M'sia squad keeps on winning in the subsequent tourneys, can you say over 2000+ posts by the end of this yr's WC (500 posts/month times 5 months)??..:eek::confused:

No i think he's trying to burn off the excessive boleh energy gradually so that when WC time comes, the bolehians will be exhausted:p

So that there will be no pressure on LCW and he will coast to the WC title? :D:rolleyes:

Owh..quite early!

I guess we shud wait first. Now, no matter how unprepared or unconvincing we look, c'mon. Work on that. Do not simply say can't.
5 months is not too long to build the best team, neither too short for that.

Hmm ... think about this then ... the London Olympics is like 4 years away and we recently did a jamboree about winning our first gold there. So, what is 5 months?

Are you saying you dont have confidence in our MS WR1, LCW and KKK/TBH?? or the rest of the shuttlers??

The intention of this thread is not to rake up number of postings. Personally, I dont need such an injection of steroids to boost up my ego.

And please dont say that this thread is too early as the WC is 5 months away or etc. If we can proudly declare that we will win our first OG gold in 2012, then whats wrong with this thread with the WC being 5 months away? And furthermore, 5 months is not a very long time.

If we are super confident, and I see many feel good postings after the SO, my question is, can we win our first WC this year? From what I have been reading recently, many are saying that LCW have finally turned the tide against LD, have unlocked the secret to beat LD and our KKK/TBH are indeed on the up, as such my question is can we then win the WC this year for the first time??

The WC was started in 1977, if I am not wrong. And todate shuttlers from China, Indonesia, Denmark, Korea, England, Sweden, Japan & USA have won it. Imagine 32 years and we, a so-called badminton powerhouse nation have yet to win this major title? Since we now have a WR1 MS in LCW and our KKK/TBH are on the up can we win the WC for the first time this year?***

*** A Yes or No answer is required

Can? Yes.
Will? No.

Can i have it in bigger font, please? Thank you.


A Yes or No answer is required

Yes or No.Why don't play safe?
Do not set the target as early as 5 months before.
Now, Both answer of yes or no will only feed the endless tradition in this BC.

Judging from the Swiss Open,LCW and KKK/TBH are able to beat anyone.Thank God they proved that to me.
Who can predict how'd they be in 5 months time?
I learned from Malaysia's past failures and won't repeat the same thing.
My job is to support, and that's it.

You will see me cheering for them again, but i would not be so confident without strong argument to support my 'predictions'.

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The WC was started in 1977, if I am not wrong. And todate shuttlers from China, Indonesia, Denmark, Korea, England, Sweden, Japan & USA have won it. Imagine 32 years and we, a so-called badminton powerhouse nation have yet to win this major title? Since we now have a WR1 MS in LCW and our KKK/TBH are on the up can we win the WC for the first time this year?***

*** A Yes or No answer is required
...i think we're missing a poll for this thread...Perhaps the mods can graciously provide a poll and have the BCers vote, yes or no??..:cool:

...i think we're missing a poll for this thread...Perhaps the mods can graciously provide a poll and have the BCers vote, yes or no??..:cool:

Yes!!! Lets have a poll here!

Mods ... Oldhand/Drifit, can we have some service here please?? Can you guys set up some poll so that we can all cast our votes??

Service ... please.

Can? Yes.
Will? No.

a bit harsh.

objectively, i think:

can? yes.
will? maybe.

Yes!!! Lets have a poll here!

Mods ... Oldhand/Drifit, can we have some service here please?? Can you guys set up some poll so that we can all cast our votes??

Service ... please.

will it be fruitful to have a poll?

do you honestly think the pollsters will be objectively thinking whether MAS can/will win the WC, or will the poll really just a poll on the quantity of MAS vs. non-MAS supporters?

My vote - We don't need a poll.

will it be fruitful to have a poll?

do you honestly think the pollsters will be objectively thinking whether MAS can/will win the WC, or will the poll really just a poll on the quantity of MAS vs. non-MAS supporters?

The boss has voiced out his opinion ;)

I tend to agree with his assessment too.

As a WR1 player, Lee Chong Wei CAN and HAS THE CAPABILITY to win the World Championships. Not to mention, he's perhaps one of the only few players that can stop Lin Dan winning 3 consecutive WC titles.

Likewise, at their best, Koo Kien Keat/Tan Boon Heong CAN BEAT any top pairs. They have shown that in the Swiss SS (Fu/Cai and Boe/Mogensen) and in the Super Series Masters (Kido/Hendra and Jung/Lee), so, they too CAN WIN the WC this year.

However, the question of will they (or in fact past champions like Lin Dan or Kido/Hendra) eventually win the tourney is dependant on many factors. The luck of the draw is definitely an important one. Whether or not they are fit to compete in the tourney is another factor. Last minute injuries can hit players (unfortunately) ;) It's pointless to say xxx WILL WIN the WC this year, only to see that that player/pair getting benched for injuries, right?

Even Li Yongbo cannot predict outright that his WS and WD players WILL DEFINITELY WIN the WC this year, despite the fact that they are the overwhelming favorites :rolleyes: Just look at Kim Dong Moon/Ra Kyung Min or Lin Dan in the Beijing Olympics 2004. Records and form said they are the overwhelming favorites the Gold Medals (esp the Korean pair). But, the actual results turned out to be otherwise. Both exited the tourney early, to everyone's surprise :eek:

Poll?? Hiyaa,if want to do one, do actual demographic study, ask Malaysians : aged 18-24 = 20%, 24-34 = 20%, 35-44=15%,45-54 - 15%, 55-64 = 15%, 65 & above = 15%. Male = 60%, female = 40%. ;):p:p
Race -> Malays = 60%, Chinese = 30%, India/Others = 10%
or if want different nationalities, fixed by %

If Msian general public(that at least know who sthing about baddy), the normal answer is No - contrary to what some think that there're many Boleh fans.

will it be fruitful to have a poll?

do you honestly think the pollsters will be objectively thinking whether MAS can/will win the WC, or will the poll really just a poll on the quantity of MAS vs. non-MAS supporters?

We have done polls before. Why is it different or special with this one?

Malaysia have never won the WC, and looking at the ranking system in the MS especially plus the latest win, we are looking good for our first win as such, whats wrong with having a poll??

And in the previous polls conducted before, were the pollsters objective as well?? For example, I recall there was a poll bout who is going to win the Beijing OG gold sometime back. Were the pollsters then all objective?? And why a poll was ok for the OG but a no no to the WC. Just curious.

But anyway, if the direction now is a no poll, then so be it. The WC is still going to be held and we will find out from there.

Cheers.

...i think we're missing a poll for this thread...Perhaps the mods can graciously provide a poll and have the BCers vote, yes or no??..:cool:

will it be fruitful to have a poll?

do you honestly think the pollsters will be objectively thinking whether MAS can/will win the WC, or will the poll really just a poll on the quantity of MAS vs. non-MAS supporters?

We have done polls before. Why is it different or special with this one?

Malaysia have never won the WC, and looking at the ranking system in the MS especially plus the latest win, we are looking good for our first win as such, whats wrong with having a poll??

And in the previous polls conducted before, were the pollsters objective as well?? For example, I recall there was a poll bout who is going to win the Beijing OG gold sometime back. Were the pollsters then all objective?? And why a poll was ok for the OG but a no no to the WC. Just curious.

But anyway, if the direction now is a no poll, then so be it. The WC is still going to be held and we will find out from there.

Cheers.
is another 5 months to come. gals and guys, please do have a little patience.
let us have little discussion and consideration. in due time, we will look into it.
in the meantime, please do discuss the journey to WC 2009. :)

a bit harsh.

objectively, i think:

can? yes.
will? maybe.
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As a WR1 player, Lee Chong Wei CAN and HAS THE CAPABILITY to win the World Championships. Not to mention, he's perhaps one of the only few players that can stop Lin Dan winning 3 consecutive WC titles.

Likewise, at their best, Koo Kien Keat/Tan Boon Heong CAN BEAT any top pairs. They have shown that in the Swiss SS (Fu/Cai and Boe/Mogensen) and in the Super Series Masters (Kido/Hendra and Jung/Lee), so, they too CAN WIN the WC this year.

However, the question of will they (or in fact past champions like Lin Dan or Kido/Hendra) eventually win the tourney is dependant on many factors. The luck of the draw is definitely an important one. Whether or not they are fit to compete in the tourney is another factor. Last minute injuries can hit players (unfortunately) ;) It's pointless to say xxx WILL WIN the WC this year, only to see that that player/pair getting benched for injuries, right?

Even Li Yongbo cannot predict outright that his WS and WD players WILL DEFINITELY WIN the WC this year, despite the fact that they are the overwhelming favorites :rolleyes: Just look at Kim Dong Moon/Ra Kyung Min or Lin Dan in the Beijing Olympics 2004. Records and form said they are the overwhelming favorites the Gold Medals (esp the Korean pair). But, the actual results turned out to be otherwise. Both exited the tourney early, to everyone's surprise :eek:
..i think the "Can s/he or they??" and "Will s/he or they??" questions can be applied to the rest of the top players/pairs, as well; badMania also has pointed out.
We have done polls before. Why is it different or special with this one?

Malaysia have never won the WC, and looking at the ranking system in the MS especially plus the latest win, we are looking good for our first win as such, whats wrong with having a poll??

And in the previous polls conducted before, were the pollsters objective as well?? For example, I recall there was a poll bout who is going to win the Beijing OG gold sometime back. Were the pollsters then all objective?? And why a poll was ok for the OG but a no no to the WC. Just curious.

But anyway, if the direction now is a no poll, then so be it. The WC is still going to be held and we will find out from there.

Cheers.
is another 5 months to come. gals and guys, please do have a little patience.
let us have little discussion and consideration. in due time, we will look into it.
in the meantime, please do discuss the journey to WC 2009. :)
..yeah, polls can sometimes be less objective. I, personally, think it's okay to have a poll in a thread accompanied by an opportunity for members to voice out their opinions by posting. I mean, it won't hurt having it.
Perhaps, to have it more objective, rather than just having a "Yes" and "No" options, the options may look like:
a. Yes & Yes
b. Yes & No
c. Yes & Maybe
Although the thread title only asks for a "Can they..??" without the "Will they..??"..

is another 5 months to come. gals and guys, please do have a little patience.
let us have little discussion and consideration. in due time, we will look into it.
in the meantime, please do discuss the journey to WC 2009. :)
yep, it's still way to loong to go:(

We can have poll on Malaysia's WC if the BCers are ready to take any disagreement as differences. and react with manners.

China fans v Malaysia fans. Most probably, that's gonna happen.
But, i'd like to believe there's no way we cannot have a better discussion here, if everyone's cooperating.
Till then, i don't see this as a good thing to do.

There's a lot of action in store before the 2009 World Championships.

India Open - Grand Prix Gold - March 2009
Asian Badminton Championships - April 2009
Sudirman Cup - May 2009
Philippines Open - Grand Prix Gold - June 2009
Singapore Open - Super Series - June 2009
Indonesia Open - Super Series - June 2009
Thailand Open - Grand Prix Gold - June 2009

I'd hesitate to place any bets before at least the Sudirman Cup is over ;)
dont miss the above tournaments. leave the poll question first and may start the MAS in WC chances discussion.

Perhaps a staggered, multi-stage poll might be alright.

Say, we have a poll that ends just before the BAC.
A second poll could end just before the Sudirman Cup.
A third poll could end just before the Indonesia Open.
And a final poll could end just before the World Championships.

That would provide an idea of how opinions and expectations change after each showing by Malaysian players in the tournaments ahead.

..that's a possibility....opinions will probably change, after those aforementioned tourneys are done.
Is there a way a member can have multiple votes?
Are we going to have separate polls?
Or will the poll be setup just in this thread?
Or maybe we can have the poll setup after the last SS tourney, just before the WC, ends??..
We can have poll on Malaysia's WC if the BCers are ready to take any disagreement as differences. and react with manners.

China fans v Malaysia fans. Most probably, that's gonna happen.
But, i'd like to believe there's no way we cannot have a better discussion here, if everyone's cooperating.
Till then, i don't see this as a good thing to do.
..a poll will be just that, a poll..Disagreements will occur even without a poll, so, what's the hurt in having one?? And i'm sure everyone will cooperate in here..:cool:

yep, it's still way to loong to go:(

For those who are drumming that this thread is too early as the WC is months away, please do likewise for the other thread i.e. Anyone going to Hyderabad as the WC there is also 5 months away. Plus there are also other threads that started way early before a tournament.

Consistency please.

Can LCW win WC? Of course, there's a big possibility especially if you will base it on his last two outings. Will LCW win WC? Of course not. Why? Nobody knows what will happen in the future. The same goes to LD.

My 2 cents. :)

i say malaysia will have a clean sweep of all 5 titles.
wait a minute, what is that pinky thing just flying over the windows?

i say malaysia will have a clean sweep of all 5 titles.
wait a minute, what is that pinky thing just flying over the windows?
Without your last sentence, i'm thinking to be out of BC for 5 months and come back later.

:) For me Malaysia can win the world championship. That's a definite.

:) For me Malaysia can win the world championship. That's a definite.
after you were born only 2 things in live will be definite!

after you were born only 2 things in live will be definite!
:confused:What is that bro? are you trying to mock me? :mad:I am saying that because I support Malaysia.:) If you don't like it just support the country you support then.:cool: I think the question is can Malaysia win, since I support Malaysia of course I would say definitely they will win.

:confused:What is that bro? are you trying to mock me? :mad:I am saying that because I support Malaysia.:) If you don't like it just support the country you support then.:cool: I think the question is can Malaysia win, since I support Malaysia of course I would say definitely they will win.
death and taxes

There si always a chance for MAS to win...the nquestion is how big are the chances...
I think LCW and KKK/TBH have bigger chance than other MAS players to win WC....

dont miss the above tournaments. leave the poll question first and may start the MAS in WC chances discussion.

Perhaps a staggered, multi-stage poll might be alright.

Say, we have a poll that ends just before the BAC.
A second poll could end just before the Sudirman Cup.
A third poll could end just before the Indonesia Open.
And a final poll could end just before the World Championships.

That would provide an idea of how opinions and expectations change after each showing by Malaysian players in the tournaments ahead.
can we have a poll or polls to decide to have a poll or not?

I think LCW and KKK/TBH have bigger chance than other MAS players to win WC....
They're MAS aces. Very obvious to me.:p

I think the draw will make a difference too. The percentage of winning will hinge on it to a degree.

There si always a chance for MAS to win...the nquestion is how big are the chances...
I think LCW and KKK/TBH have bigger chance than other MAS players to win WC....
If you consider the list of the current "other MAS players", just about anyone would have a "bigger chance than other MAS players" :o

Cannot la...

We will talk them up and then they will fail spectacularly. Better not to talk them up. Like in Swiss Open.

Cannot la...

We will talk them up and then they will fail spectacularly. Better not to talk them up. Like in Swiss Open.
so, what are you going to tell them? they are rubbish and dont bother?

Err..vching's quite good with reverse psychology.

so, what are you going to tell them? they are rubbish and dont bother?


nope, we shall ask them to loss all the tournaments
before WC....then they will bounce back to win WC :o:o

:) For me Malaysia can win the world championship. That's a definite.

Good to see a confident and straight up fan. Well done, stevemariyoh!

:) For me Malaysia can win the world championship. That's a definite.

I will be proud of you if I'm Malaysian as you've painted yourself as a "Malaysia Boleh" supporter. :)

But one cannot deny realities and give an adamant "definite" when Malaysia's chances to win the WC at best is 50/50. :rolleyes: Even China is wise enough not to come up with such a definite assertion. ;)

It is better to be realistic and hope for the best in such a situation rather than being "definitely sure" and being heartbroken repeatedly subsequently!:(

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Can Malaysia win titles at the 2009 World Championships?

We have to wait and see how well LCW, KKK/TBH and other MAS players can perform at these 2 Super Series tournaments, namely;
Singapore Open - 2009 June 9-14
Indonesia Open - 2009 June 16-21

And also how well non-MAS players can perform at these 2 tournaments. The results there should give us a clearer indication. But it's only an indication.

I would hesitate to place any bets before at least Round 1 at the WC itself.

:):):)
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Can? Yes.
Will? No.

a bit harsh.

objectively, i think:

can? yes.
will? maybe.

the answer should be simple...anyone can win wc when he/she/they is in the draw....;)....unless....the ppl english weak than mine...:rolleyes:

As a Malaysian, after all these years we been supporting our team! disappointment that we had, make me nearly fed up on giving any hope for Malaysia to win a WC title. By saying this, doesn't mean that we have no chance at all. just the fact that the pressure that put on any MAS players has been rolling on and on for yearsssssss. no matter how good are you, sometimes pressure do let you down. i always like to stand on players point of view trying to feel what their feel being a MAS player AND i can actually feel the pressure on my shoulder! imagine if you having a match with a big chucky stone on your shoulder, can you play well? i doubt it!

i am not giving an excuse for MAS players in case they lost. If any of you (all MAS players especially Lee Chong Wei) see my post. i want you to know that i can feel your pressure very much! Can you win the 1st WC? i don mind if is NO. i just don't want you to feel pressure on your shoulder. do remember how relax are you in swiss final (Well, i may not know how you feel at that time but at least i can see that you are relax). As long as you try the best!

Once Malaysia win the 1st ever title in WC (or in OG) i personally feel that the following titles will come on and on. Question is how MAS players (i am not going mention any particular player which i think they all should involve but not just LCW) going to overcome the pressure. If you guys watch the swiss open final MS through Shanghai channel, the commentator raise a very good point for MAS players. apparently, there are not a lot of potential players (only 3). If one of them lost then finish, that it! unlike China, less pressure on them because even if 10 players lost ot injuire, they still got another 10 good players out there fighting for titles and they all capable.

After all my ********, my answer for this thread is 50:50. sorry guys! i keep my finger cross and hopefully the day before i die, i will see MAS winning WC and OG in style! at the end of the day, i am a fxxking blind MAS fan and i don care how many more disappointments before the title. i will wait!

Weily, such..well, proud to have you as a Malaysian.

Oh yeah! i live in Birmingham, everytime people where i from. my answer is MALAYSIAN chinese instead of just chinse.

As a Malaysian, after all these years we been supporting our team! disappointment that we had, make me nearly fed up on giving any hope for Malaysia to win a WC title. By saying this, doesn't mean that we have no chance at all. just the fact that the pressure that put on any MAS players has been rolling on and on for yearsssssss. no matter how good are you, sometimes pressure do let you down. i always like to stand on players point of view trying to feel what their feel being a MAS player AND i can actually feel the pressure on my shoulder! imagine if you having a match with a big chucky stone on your shoulder, can you play well? i doubt it!

i am not giving an excuse for MAS players in case they lost. If any of you (all MAS players especially Lee Chong Wei) see my post. i want you to know that i can feel your pressure very much! Can you win the 1st WC? i don mind if is NO. i just don't want you to feel pressure on your shoulder. do remember how relax are you in swiss final (Well, i may not know how you feel at that time but at least i can see that you are relax). As long as you try the best!

Once Malaysia win the 1st ever title in WC (or in OG) i personally feel that the following titles will come on and on. Question is how MAS players (i am not going mention any particular player which i think they all should involve but not just LCW) going to overcome the pressure. If you guys watch the swiss open final MS through Shanghai channel, the commentator raise a very good point for MAS players. apparently, there are not a lot of potential players (only 3). If one of them lost then finish, that it! unlike China, less pressure on them because even if 10 players lost ot injuire, they still got another 10 good players out there fighting for titles and they all capable.

After all my ********, my answer for this thread is 50:50. sorry guys! i keep my finger cross and hopefully the day before i die, i will see MAS winning WC and OG in style! at the end of the day, i am a fxxking blind MAS fan and i don care how many more disappointments before the title. i will wait!

Yes, I agree LCW got to live and perform under pressure constantly. But I believe the pressure and expectations on LD is maybe 10 times or even more than LCW. Thats the reality of being a champion. Champions like Nadal, Federer, Messi, Gerrard etc are all constantly under tremendous pressure.

And by the way, I respect how you support the Malaysian shuttlers.

Yes, I agree LCW got to live and perform under pressure constantly. But I believe the pressure and expectations on LD is maybe 10 times or even more than LCW. Thats the reality of being a champion. Champions like Nadal, Federer, Messi, Gerrard etc are all constantly under tremendous pressure.

And by the way, I respect how you support the Malaysian shuttlers.
emm...as a newbie,for me its about how LCW and LD have been trained to exert pressure..LCW started his career later than LD and of course LD has much more experience than LCW on how to absorb all the pressure given by the badminton supporters.

emm...as a newbie, for me its about how LCW and LD have been trained to exert pressure.. LCW started his career later than LD and of course LD has much more experience than LCW on how to absorb all the pressure given by the badminton supporters.



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IMHO, most of the pressure that LCW faces come from fans. Coach Misbun and BAM are less demanding.

On the other hand, most of the pressure that LD faces come from Coach LYB. LD's fans are less demanding.

This is just my observation.
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emm...as a newbie,for me its about how LCW and LD have been trained to exert pressure..LCW started his career later than LD and of course LD has much more experience than LCW on how to absorb all the pressure given by the badminton supporters.

Hi,

Welcome to the forum. In terms of age, LCW is more senior than LD. Its just that LD made his breakthrough earlier because he is a better shuttler.

Malaysia has a population of 28 million, China has well over 1 billion. For example, when China hosted the Olympics last year you can pretty much imagine the pressure LD was under to deliver that gold.

Anyway, I find it odd when we say our LCW is under pressure because if our LCW aspire to be a true champion then the lad gotta start living and performing under pressure.

Emm, not quite, I think. How much pressure on you does not equate to population demographics.

LD is also under huge pressure, yes. However, if he or the whole CHN MS squad failed to land the biggie, CHN squad as a whole would naturally still win some titles. Their formidable WD and strong WS and XD will make sure there is no chance of going empty handed. Plus they are also strong in many other sports, that the failure of the whole badminton squad (which can't happen under LYB's watch) would not blow a hole bigger than a pinprick on their overall strength.

For LCW, it is known that if he fails, MAS is not likely to gain any title. MAS MD is still inconsistent, and the rest so far down the field, that LCW remains the only MAS player with some level of consistency. And MAS does not have any other Olympic level sport where the team is at World Class levels.

Hence, the pressure on LCW goes to a very huge magnitude. Having said that, he still has to apply himself mentally to manage and overcome the barrier. Or do like Taufik does, play without worries (easier said than done). That's what got Taufik the World Championship 2005 and Olympic Gold 2004.

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IMHO, most of the pressure that LCW faces come from fans. Coach Misbun and BAM are less demanding.

On the other hand, most of the pressure that LD faces come from Coach LYB. LD's fans are less demanding.

This is just my observation.
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LCW's pressure also comes from the Sports Ministry & NSC.This is often highlighted by their press statements, they soooo kan cheong whenever baddy did not win a title. And LCW is often the sole Msia representative left standing. When LCW did not win 2009 AE, the Sports Minister contacted him, imagine..;) Same goes for KKK/TBH.
In 2008 OG, he was the sole medalist. Basically if LCW/badminton failed, Msia will return empty handed, a lot of heads of decision makers will roll. :p:p

China has it's formidable WS & WD to clinch wins, next is XD & MS to add in the number,MD is supposed to be their weakest dept. For China, it's a matter of the number of titles they can grab, of course, this includes WC.

China is the world top badminton playing nation. They are like the 'Brazil' of football in badminton. The MS OG gold is a coveted title. Just like in football, em' Brazilians wont be a bunch of happy campers if they just win the women's world cup but not the men's world cup simply because the men's world cup is a coveted trophy. Chinese shuttlers are expected to win every single tournament they compete in.

Look at the US for example. They are a powerhouse when it comes to sports all round. In the last Beijing's Olympics, their men's basketball team or fans dont have a "if we didnt win the gold in basketball it is ok because we are strong in swimming, wrestling, track etc etc" type of mentality. And their basketball team was under tremendous pressure despite the fact that should they not win gold, the US have a few swim stars to fall back on.

LD, unlike LCW have to really deliver because being Chinese, he got a long line of achievements to matched.

It is soooo funny to hear that LCW is under tremendous pressure from the NSC, BAM, Malaysian public, his neighbours and etc etc etc.

Ok, lets look at things from a realistic angle. What pressure are we talking about??? He is already rewarded big time by the government even without winning a major title todate. And should LCW give up badminton tomorrow, he will be taken care of for life by the government. He will get a monthly salary of RM3,000 (if I m not wrong) just for sitting at home watching Looney Tunes. Yes, the Malaysian taxpayers gotta take care of him for life. Even our legends like Eddy Choong, Tan Aik Huang or Ng Boon Bee despite all their major titles didnt get to enjoy the state titles nor the $$ benefits. What pressure are we crying about here???

And for our sanity sake, this is about playing badminton for the country that has never won the OG gold, WC and the TC and AE are few and far in between ... what pressure are we talking about?? Compare this then ... our Datuk LCW who is flying all over the world playing badminton to those Malaysians who were recently laid off. I wonder who is under pressure; playing badminton or putting food on the table for the family???

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IMHO, most of the pressure that LCW faces come from fans. Coach Misbun and BAM are less demanding.

On the other hand, most of the pressure that LD faces come from Coach LYB. LD's fans are less demanding.

This is just my observation.
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I do agree with Eagle that expectations came from the bosses most.
You do see here we were being called Bolehian as we keep supporting.
So, Lee Chong Wei do take the appreciation from us.

Nothing is wrong if Malaysians were about to expect something from the athletes, as long as it'd be done with rationales and good justification.

whooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
take a break..time's out..:))
whether mas can or will wins the wc...i leave that to the players
if they win...hurray
if they dont...live goes on :))

Nahhh........LCW will fail. In fact LD will reach a all time godling level and beat LCW with a score of 21-0 21-0 in less than 5 minute. Then LCW die of heart attack and BAM will be demolish as the govenment deem badminton too hazardous for a sport. Soon all Malaysian player will be selling char koay teow and satay in you local stall.

See I just made the anti MAS people happy.

Nahhh........LCW will fail. In fact LD will reach a all time godling level and beat LCW with a score of 21-0 21-0 in less than 5 minute. Then LCW die of heart attack and BAM will be demolish as the govenment deem badminton too hazardous for a sport. Soon all Malaysian player will be selling char koay teow and satay in you local stall.

See I just made the anti MAS people happy.

and some of them end up selling Roti Canai, Teh Tarik, as Proton's Salesmen and tour guides for Twin Towers and World Tallest Flag pole in Malaysia........:D:D

Nahhh........LCW will fail. In fact LD will reach a all time godling level and beat LCW with a score of 21-0 21-0 in less than 5 minute. Then LCW die of heart attack and BAM will be demolish as the govenment deem badminton too hazardous for a sport. Soon all Malaysian player will be selling char koay teow and satay in you local stall.

See I just made the anti MAS people happy.
Evil.........:p

and some of them end up selling Roti Canai, Teh Tarik, as Proton's Salesmen and tour guides for Twin Towers and World Tallest Flag pole in Malaysia........:D:D

erm...they will create many world record....like pasing roti canai with racket....:D...oh ya...forget...they will build more and higher flag pole in malaysia....;)....with their ring...bla bla bla....:D

Nahhh........LCW will fail. In fact LD will reach a all time godling level and beat LCW with a score of 21-0 21-0 in less than 5 minute. Then LCW die of heart attack and BAM will be demolish as the govenment deem badminton too hazardous for a sport. Soon all Malaysian player will be selling char koay teow and satay in you local stall.

See I just made the anti MAS people happy.

Nahhhh, the Sports Minister will collapse 1st (no disrespect to him, looks like a healthy guy). KKK/TBH didnt win this yr AE also already they want to "bedah siasat" (post mortem, read Berita Harian for the article). Normally they use 'discuss', now already use "bedah"(surgery), if WC time dunno what serious term they will use.;)

That's why I said, they sooooo kan cheong every time baddy dont win title, be it individual or team event, must win every time one.:p:p

It will get worse before it gets better. I think Malaysia went through a bad patch with LCW and KKK-TBH. Now, it looks like it will get better.

Hyderabad will see the best of Malaysia coming out - no big players that the current crop cannot handle. I like to see Daren Liew making a go at this -- he needs to 'cash' in on this tournament.:D

Hyderabad will see the best of Malaysia coming out - no big players that the current crop cannot handle. I like to see Daren Liew making a go at this -- he needs to 'cash' in on this tournament.:D

the chance for ldr qualify for wc 2009...the chance is like billion to one(sound familiar?wenger say so:p)...he need to win both india open and abc/bac...;)...and yet...cannot comfirm he can go...;)

the chance for ldr qualify for wc 2009...the chance is like billion to one(sound familiar?wenger say so:p)...he need to win both india open and abc/bac...;)...and yet...cannot comfirm he can go...;)

His day at the WC is not 2009 but 2010. He has to put in the hard 'yakka' first.

I know some of you would like to chat about nasi lemak, making roti, Sports Minister, Malaysia Boleh records and all but this thread is about whether Msia can win the WC this year. If any of you are having trouble understanding the meaning of this thread's title, do pm me for a quick elementary lesson in basic English (but you need to invest in a good pocket size dictionary first).

Maybe you can take your vision and plans on flipping roti canai or whatever to the Malaysia Boleh thread in the chit chat section.

Boleh fans are so 'unique'. Ask a simple question whether MAS can win its first WC, they go on a roundabout about Sports Minister having a breakdown, flipping bread with racquets, making teh tarik ..... :o

Nahhhh, the Sports Minister will collapse 1st (no disrespect to him, looks like a healthy guy). KKK/TBH didnt win this yr AE also already they want to "bedah siasat" (post mortem, read Berita Harian for the article). Normally they use 'discuss', now already use "bedah"(surgery), if WC time dunno what serious term they will use.;)

That's why I said, they sooooo kan cheong every time baddy dont win title, be it individual or team event, must win every time one.:p:p



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Eagle ... Don't be so kan cheong now. :):):)

Let's follow the coming events first;
* India Open GP Gold
* Asian Badminton Championships
* Sudirman Cup
* PO GPG, SO SS, IO SS, TO GPG
and
also follow their training/preparation programs, before we get all stressed up.

After we have completed all of the above, we can then operate/dissect our MAS players to see if they could perform well at the WC.

:):):)
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Eagle ... Don't be so kan cheong now. :):):)

.........After we have completed all of the above, we can then operate/dissect our MAS players to see if they could perform well at the WC.
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:):):)
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Kan cheong? I'm not kan cheong, I didnt start this thread mah. :p
I said "they so kan cheong", read the malay press you'll know(there's online version).
We dont even know yet the list of those who qualify for WC. The operating & dissecting is the AFTER WC. :D:D

The answer is a simple "Yes". Because hard work always pays off, and Lee Chong Wei is a very hard working athlete.:) His chance of winning will be a lot higher if he has me as his sparring partner. hehe:p

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Eagle ... Don't be so kan cheong now. :):):)

Let's follow the coming events first;
* India Open GP Gold
* Asian Badminton Championships
* Sudirman Cup
* PO GPG, SO SS, IO SS, TO GPG
and
also follow their training/preparation programs, before we get all stressed up.

After we have completed all of the above, we can then operate/dissect our MAS players to see if they could perform well at the WC.

:):):)
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you guys should know, the person who started this thread is very kan chiong;)

Boleh fans are so 'unique'. Ask a simple question whether MAS can win its first WC, they go on a roundabout about Sports Minister having a breakdown, flipping bread with racquets, making teh tarik ..... :o
yep, those members are so unique that they learn it from you if i'm not mistaken. u are just their 'sifu' or professor over here!:):D:D

you guys should know, the person who started this thread is very kan chiong ;)



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:eek::eek::eek: Kan Chiong ??? Disagree here. That person has already given up. :p:p:p
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:eek::eek::eek: Kan Chiong ??? Disagree here. That person has already given up. :p:p:p
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Chris, are you sure? It's a no from me. He hasn't.

I rather have our players to lose some tournaments before the Big one than win the small ones and lose on the big ones.

Chris, are you sure? It's a no from me. He hasn't.



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Yes ... Based on this:


Dear Boleh fans,

Can we win the WC for the first time this year? Yes or no?

Allow me then to start the ball rolling with my prediction...

I will say 'No'.

Why??

For the MS, though LCW beat LD yesterday, I am yet to be convinced that LCW can deliver on the big stage. And it will be a different LD come the WC than the one we saw last night.

MD, I think the usual Malaysian temperament will set in i.e. win one tournament, they will lose their heads and will come crashing down next.

WS,WD,XD ... with respect, lets hope they show up in nice matching badminton kits.

Again, lets lay em' cards all on the table. Can Malaysian win its first WC this year? Yes or no?

Oh yes ... one more thing before I forget, Malaysia Boleh to you lot!



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Yes ... Based on this:

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then why this thread been created?:confused:

then why this thread been created? :confused:



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I won't wish to guess. Let's ask the thread creator as to why this thread is created. :):):)
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then why this thread been created?:confused:
Pemuda should have the best answer, limsy. It was his hands typing "Can Malaysia win the WC" and click the "new thread" button.

I have no problem when people are saying we are not going to win. That's how it goes, you can voice it up. Merely because he's saying no, i beg anyone to not condemned because of that. It's unhealthy. Provide the reason why are we saying yes. Then, this thread should be sensible. And let the players prove which point is better this august.
Trust me, i'm dying to know.;)

then why this thread been created?:confused:
to create more boleh facts and figures from him and wasting BC space?;)

I rather have our players to lose some tournaments before the Big one than win the small ones and lose on the big ones.
.."Let's spring a surprise" kind of approach, eh??..:confused: ;)

So that there will be no pressure on LCW and he will coast to the WC title? :D:rolleyes:



Speaking of pressure, i seriously doubt England or more precisely London can out-perform Beijing as an olympic host:D:rolleyes:Does mother England has enough pounds($) and manpower to outstage china like the Olymic opening ceremony alone is just so so so memorable;)
Do we have what it takes to play the games or any games you are capable of?:D:rolleyes:;)
Jealous about China's success. It is normal don't be hard on yourself(ves):D:p;)LOL. Come let the games begin, shall we?:p

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Yes ... Based on this:

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Yes, I said LCW will not win the WC this year. But does that mean I have given up on him?? :o:o

Do yourself a small little favour, dont assume.

Pemuda should have the best answer, limsy. It was his hands typing "Can Malaysia win the WC" and click the "new thread" button.

I have no problem when people are saying we are not going to win. That's how it goes, you can voice it up. Merely because he's saying no, i beg anyone to not condemned because of that. It's unhealthy. Provide the reason why are we saying yes. Then, this thread should be sensible. And let the players prove which point is better this august.
Trust me, i'm dying to know.;)

koo_fan, its ok. Some people here are just unable to accept any opinions that are different than theirs. I dont really blame their village like mentality. You know, the katak dibawah tempurung mentality thingy. These people just dont know how to react when they come across an opinion or statement not to their liking. They will rant, moan, whinge and start throwing all their toys out of their prams.

This is a very simple and straight forward thread; Can Malaysia win the WC? I am sure even a std 2 student will understand the thread's topic. I mean if you are unable to understand simple basic English then I am sorry you need serious help because I doubt you can make it living abroad in Aust for example.

Anyway, I have said LCW wont win the WC and I have stated my reasons. For those who can accept, it is ok. And for those who cant accept, dont sulk because life goes on. ;)

Point taken, Pemuda. Your sayings had a basis and i respect that.

It is simple actually, i couldn't say no because i just couldn't. Lee Chong Wei and his friends don't deserve that.

koo fan
i second your motion :))

..i'm gonna post this article here (taken from another thread, which i wonder how it's related)..As BAM and LCW prepare for their upcoming WC and re-visit to Hyderabad..
Village food !!!! Pemuda is gonna have fun here;)
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Badminton: BAM is considering taking chefs to Hyderabad

By Ajitpal Singh

2009/04/13

CHEFS may have to board the flight to Hyderabad, India for the World Badminton Championships on Aug 10-16. Their mission in India will be to prepare local food for the national shuttlers, a step the BA of Malaysia (BAM) is considering after the Lee Chong Wei's food poisoning experience at last month's India Open, also in Hyderabad.

Chong Wei, the World No 1, blamed an upset stomach for his first round loss to China's Chen Long.

BAM president Datuk Nadzmi Salleh said the association will provide the best for the Hyderabad-bound players.

"It has always been our priority to provide the best for the players when they are abroad. We do that all the time," said Nadzmi recently.

"Chong Wei is always careful about what he eats when overseas. The association is looking at all avenues before the trip to India but will decide later."
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..i think those chefs should prepare and take all precautionary steps to avoid the food poisoning bugs in Hyderabad (drink bottles of yoghurt, take medication prior to their trip etc.)..What if the chefs, themselves, get sick??..:confused:http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/39.gif

if the chefs get sick, then next time the mas team will bring their own packed food ahaks :)

Chefs or food is not the problem, common sense is.

The practice of bringing chefs is nothing new, so if BAM wants to do it, it doesn't need to broadcast to the whole world about it and use LCW's stomach upset excuse.

Bringing MAS chefs is not a good idea. If the MAS chefs slip up on their hygiene ,then the whole MAS team will come down.
Better to stick to hotel food shared by all the teams. In the event of common food poisoning, the winner may be the one with the strongest digestive system!

..LCW and other M'sians better win or advance deep in the upcoming WC. If not or anyone comes down with another food poisoning episode, the chefs will be the ones in the spotlight.
Talk about giving them a bit of pressure to cook 'em right, eh??..;)

..LCW and other M'sians better win or advance deep in the upcoming WC. If not or anyone comes down with another food poisoning episode, the chefs will be the ones in the spotlight.
Talk about giving them a bit of pressure to cook 'em right, eh??..;)

No problem lah! Chefs are used to pressure cookers, aren't they? :D

hey, we are talking about chefs here?:D
btw, chef Wan comes to my mind when speaking about chef:p

ladies and gentlemen,
the thread title is not "Can Malaysia win the WC without chef?"
let go the pressure cooker
let go the chef wan
let go the non-stick rice cooker
let go non-stick frying pan
let go the sardine 'cap ayam'
leave the cooking style alone

ladies and gentlemen,
the thread title is not "Can Malaysia win the WC without chef?"


Yes. I think Malaysia can win, with or without chef. Why make fuss over the presence of the chefs. Unnecessary pressure.;)

I think LCW and KKK/TBH have decent chance of winning the titles. Certainly Lin Dan is still the heavy favourite as he has been there and done it so many times. What Chong Wei has to realize is in order to be a great player, he needs to win the titles that really count like All England, World Championship and Olympic else he will only be the great player for Malaysia.
Pressure or no pressure, is part of the game and is the separation between the good and the great player. Lin Dan was heavily criticized when he failed in World Championship 2005 and turned the table around since and we sure hope Chong Wei can do the same.
KKK/TBH stands a better chance as they have good records against the title contenders in MD.

I think LCW and KKK/TBH have decent chance of winning the titles.

It's nice to hear this.
I think this thread will be hotter when WC is around the corner.

It's nice to hear this.
I think this thread will be hotter when WC is around the corner.

I agree with you.
Support LCW to win WC.. for MD, lets hope it between KKK/TBH or MK/HS..

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Are MAS players on the right track for the 2009 World Championships?

Greetings,

Received news from the New Straits Times, relating to MAS players at the coming 2009 World Championships.

Misbun Sidek said that Lee Chong Wei's problem is his inner strength as he tends to succumb to pressure in big tournaments.

Rexy Mainaky said that the performance of Koo Kien Keat/Tan Boon Heong has improved but they need to put in more effort on getting focused.

So it is still the 'mental effort' of the MAS players that their coaches are most concerned/worried about.

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Misbun said Chong Wei is on the right track for the World Championships. "His performance of late has showed that he has been training very hard. Everything is in place and I just need to polish his skills and self-confidence," said Misbun.

"Chong Wei's problem is his inner strength as he tends to succumb to pressure in big tournaments, especially against top players like Lin Dan of China."

"He should add more speed to his game and try new things during competitions. He must master the ability to organise himself against different opponents."

Chong Wei's best performance in the World Championships was winning a bronze in his debut in 2005. The Penang-born player has declared his intention to reach the final in Hyderabad.

Meanwhile, coach Rexy Mainaky is happy he is getting a lot of feedback from the doubles players who are now more ready to talk about their on-court problems.

"When I first arrived here, I had to plan for them everything without knowing their preferences. They are now more communicative and I appreciate their feedback as I now know their needs.

"As for Kien Keat-Boon Heong, their performance has improved but they need to put in more effort on getting focused.

"They cannot be dropping a game in every match. Their opponents may then get the confidence to beat them, " he said.

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Source: http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Tuesday/Sport/2595579/Article/index_html

Cheers... chris-ccc
:):):)
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Hey , isn't this what "Can Malaysia win the WC (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67633&highlight=malaysia+win+wc)" had proposed before?

Owh well, Are Malaysian players ready? tricky one. They do not yet convince me as a fan but i will for sure will pray hard for the best to come. Good luck !;)

On the right track? I dont think there will be ever a right track... but they are doing their best to reach the finish line First..

hmm,still a no to me:(
well,hope i am wrong:o

..i'm still enjoying reading the 1st post of this thread..;)

Does anyone have the line up for malaysia for the 2009 world championship?

..please see post #3, click on the link, in the thread below:
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70355

Does anyone have the line up for malaysia for the 2009 world championship?
there you go:

The Qualifiers -- Men's Singles: Lee Chong Wei, Wong Choong Hann, Lee Tsuen Seng.

Doubles: Koo Kien Keat-Tan Boon Heong, Zakry Latif-Fairuzizuan Tazari, Choong Tan Fook-Lee Wan Wah, Chan Chong Ming-Chew Choon Eng.

Women's Singles: Wong Mew Choo, Lydia Cheah.

Doubles: Wong Pei Tty-Chin Eei Hui, Woon Khe Wei-Chong Sook Chin, Fong Chew Yen-Mooi Hing Yau.

Mixed Doubles: Koo Kien Keat-Ng Hui Lin, Razif Latif-Woon Khe Wei.

there you go:

The Qualifiers -- Men's Singles: Lee Chong Wei, Wong Choong Hann, Lee Tsuen Seng.

Doubles: Koo Kien Keat-Tan Boon Heong, Zakry Latif-Fairuzizuan Tazari, Choong Tan Fook-Lee Wan Wah, Chan Chong Ming-Chew Choon Eng.

Women's Singles: Wong Mew Choo, Lydia Cheah.

Doubles: Wong Pei Tty-Chin Eei Hui, Woon Khe Wei-Chong Sook Chin, Fong Chew Yen-Mooi Hing Yau.

Mixed Doubles: Koo Kien Keat-Ng Hui Lin, Razif Latif-Woon Khe Wei.
fong and mooi retired long time liao:rolleyes:

fong and mooi retired long time liao:rolleyes:
oops, i copied it from here

http://www.bam.org.my/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1135&Itemid=1

Does anyone have the line up for malaysia for the 2009 world championship?

there you go:......

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fong and mooi retired long time liao:rolleyes:

The following are updated list as of 4 July 2009 :

The Malaysian team: (world ranking in bracket):

THE SQUAD -- Men's Singles: Lee Chong Wei (1), Wong Choong Hann (11), Lee Tsuen Seng (18).

Doubles: Koo Kien Keat-Tan Boon Heong (3), Zakry Latif-Fairuzizuan Tazari (5), Choong Tan Fook-Lee Wan Wah (10), Chan Chong Ming-Chew Choon Eng (12).

Women's Singles: Wong Mew Choo (14), Lydia Cheah (8).

Doubles: Wong Pei Tty-Chin Eei Hui (1), Woon Khe Wei-Chong Sook Chin (37), Fong Chew Yen-Mooi Hing Yau (44), Marylen Ng-Lim Yin Loo (60)

Mixed doubles: Koo Kien Keat-Ng Hui Lin (36), Chan Peng Soon-Goh Liu Ying (57), Razif Latif-Woon Khe Wei (78), Ong Jien Guo-Chong Sook Chin (91).


http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Saturday/Sport/2599165/Article/pppull_index_html

THe ones in blue are latest addition, from New Straits Times.

Limsy, according to press report, Fong/Mooi agreed to go, they didnt reject but Lim PS/Haw declined. If they dont want to go/retired, must tell BAM so that can replace. Dunno lah, maybe FOng/Mooi partner 1 last time??

err, the one in blues are just the names to fill the place right?:(

Lydia Cheah (8).

Limsy, according to press report, Fong/Mooi agreed to go, they didnt reject but Lim PS/Haw declined. If they dont want to go/retired, must tell BAM so that can replace. Dunno lah, maybe FOng/Mooi partner 1 last time??

hmm
u sure lydia in top 8 now?:p

well,i not sure about this,i will contact someone soon after i go renew my sim card:(

For me also...No....sorry to say...

in MS.....there is LD......the untouchable one....

In MD....KKK/TBH ...seems still very unsettled....they only managed to play good in first game........and will lose focus...and lost the 2nd and rubber.....they even nearly lost to tao jiaming and his partnes in recent Mas GP Gold........

WS and WD......Chn is way to strong for MAS players...........

XD....it will be between Kor, Chn and possible INA....

For me also...No....sorry to say...

in MS.....there is LD......the untouchable one....

In MD....KKK/TBH ...seems still very unsettled....they only managed to play good in first game........and will lose focus...and lost the 2nd and rubber.....they even nearly lost to tao jiaming and his partnes in recent Mas GP Gold........

WS and WD......Chn is way to strong for MAS players...........

XD....it will be between Kor, Chn and possible INA....
haiya, no need to be sorry to say. Just say it loud and clear..after all thats your own opinion;):p

haiya, no need to be sorry to say. Just say it loud and clear..after all thats your own opinion;):p
Very true la George. haha. hey, seems not so many of us put hopes on our team eh?

So, how come LCW can come with a statement, " i was pressured by fans expectation to beat Lin Dan and win WC" ( Read it in local newspaper yesterday ) .
Bear in mind, Lee Chong Wei, just play your best. I don't know about others but for me, Good game was good enough. You don't have to say, "I'll beat Lin Dan," just do it. The supports are here.

For me also...No....sorry to say...

in MS.....there is LD......the untouchable one....

..LD isn't aphephobia:D He'll pat your bum if u beat him;)
If all that stars line up for lcw and LD is daydreaming, lcw can touch LD again;)

The following are updated list as of 4 July 2009 :

The Malaysian team: (world ranking in bracket):

THE SQUAD -- Men's Singles: Lee Chong Wei (1), Wong Choong Hann (11), Lee Tsuen Seng (18).

Doubles: Koo Kien Keat-Tan Boon Heong (3), Zakry Latif-Fairuzizuan Tazari (5), Choong Tan Fook-Lee Wan Wah (10), Chan Chong Ming-Chew Choon Eng (12).

Women's Singles: Wong Mew Choo (14), Lydia Cheah (8).

Doubles: Wong Pei Tty-Chin Eei Hui (1), Woon Khe Wei-Chong Sook Chin (37), Fong Chew Yen-Mooi Hing Yau (44), Marylen Ng-Lim Yin Loo (60)

Mixed doubles: Koo Kien Keat-Ng Hui Lin (36), Chan Peng Soon-Goh Liu Ying (57), Razif Latif-Woon Khe Wei (78), Ong Jien Guo-Chong Sook Chin (91).


http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Saturday/Sport/2599165/Article/pppull_index_html

THe ones in blue are latest addition, from New Straits Times.

Limsy, according to press report, Fong/Mooi agreed to go, they didnt reject but Lim PS/Haw declined. If they dont want to go/retired, must tell BAM so that can replace. Dunno lah, maybe FOng/Mooi partner 1 last time??

I heard Wong Mew Choo is injured and might not heal fast enough for the world championship. That means WS won't get anywhere...

wong mew choo and lydia cheah also injured.. dunno they will participate or not.. pray that both will recover fast..

wong mew choo and lydia will participate in the wc;)
dont worry:)

there is still a month before wc,relax

to answer the original poster, even USA has a better record than MAS with 1 title against MASs' NONE.

to answer the original poster, even USA has a better record than MAS with 1 title against MASs' NONE.
that's history indeed, anyway, that's the past. the past is past;)

that's history indeed, anyway, that's the past. the past is past;)

no george
we must live in reality;)
we just able to win a few ss+gp gold a year,and we should be proud of it already,we have no uber cup,no sudirman cup,no wc,no og.;)
its ok,we have new ss titles and gp gold titles to happy with
that what we can reach;)
let the uber cup winner like japan,wc winner like US and england hug the old trophy they have:)
they able to do that,and we are not,just accept it.
we just aim for ss titles and gp gold titles can already,we know where we stand and we know what we capable to do:)
why bother to wear xxxl t shirt when ur size is just xl?;)

aiyah.. ah lim ah.... aim high mah... ;)

aiyah.. ah lim ah.... aim high mah... ;)

there is some that never able to wear xl;)
uncle,u should get what i mean in behind:p

to answer the original poster, even USA has a better record than MAS with 1 title against MASs' NONE.
ouch, that's hurt.

to answer the original poster, even USA has a better record than MAS with 1 title against MASs' NONE.

Yes, countries like Eng, Den, USA, Chn, INA, USA, Kor all have won World Championship title......they are all ahead of MAS......its painful....:crying::crying:

Yes, countries like Eng, Den, USA, Chn, INA, USA, Kor all have won World Championship title......they are all ahead of MAS......its painful....:crying::crying:

haha,u wont be painful if u learn to know about malaysia true ability and what she can acheive;)

haha,u wont be painful if u learn to know about malaysia true ability and what she can acheive;)

Ya,..Mas only good for SS and GP..........:(

Dear Boleh fans,

Ok, LCW finally won away from home as the MS WR1, he also finally managed to beat LD convincingly yesterday too.

KKK/TBH as well won the SO MD too.

Well, judging from all the feel good postings I see being plastered all over the forum, allow me to ask you all a question; can we win our first WC this year?

Ok, time to walk the talk now, lets have a specific answer rather than the usual "i hope LCW or KKK/TBH will win", "I will pray n hope very hard", "If the draw is good" etc etc.

Can we win the WC for the first time this year? Yes or no?

Allow me then to start the ball rolling with my prediction...

I will say 'No'.

Why??

For the MS, though LCW beat LD yesterday, I am yet to be convinced that LCW can deliver on the big stage. And it will be a different LD come the WC than the one we saw last night.

MD, I think the usual Malaysian temperament will set in i.e. win one tournament, they will lose their heads and will come crashing down next.

WS,WD,XD ... with respect, lets hope they show up in nice matching badminton kits.

Again, lets lay em' cards all on the table. Can Malaysian win its first WC this year? Yes or no?

Oh yes ... one more thing before I forget, Malaysia Boleh to you lot!
Yessssssssssssssss

Yessssssssssssssss

Go Chong Wei! Go!

Yessssssssssssssss
haha..lol a simple answer to answer the thread question, sibugichai:D:p

WMC still injured... It take time to recovery. Hope she play her game well to get in semi final !

I am hopeful that MAS will win all 5 titles however there is an old saying....

MAS = Manah Ada Sistem

&

MAS = Misti Ada Salah

LOL

I am hopeful that MAS will win all 5 titles however there is an old saying....

MAS = Manah Ada Sistem

&

MAS = Misti Ada Salah

LOL

Or

MAS = Mesti Ada Surprise... ( Sure got surprise... )......:D

Must hAs tranSlate

please translate the non-english.
thanks.

..Must Always TranSlate!..:cool:

Or

MAS = Mesti Ada Surprise... ( Sure got surprise... )......:DHaha..Good one, Jason..Hope Mas really spring a surprise this time...:D:p

Cheer more and louder for Malaysia this time , jessica.
iah:D:D cheer at your college's hostel:D

Cheer more and louder for Malaysia this time , jessica.
iah:D:D cheer at your college's hostel:D
George...The WC only start next week...Don't be too high first or else you might need ambulance...:D:D:rolleyes:

George...The WC only start next week...Don't be too high first or else you might need ambulance...:D:D:rolleyes:

Jess,...dont u know our George already so high since last week, creating threads over threads,....posts ater posts.... needs some MJ's medicine to calm him down....:D:D:D

Dunno who is the one who more kan chiong since last week:rolleyes:
anyway, the wc starts tomorrow and i'm sure everyone also very kan chiong already now:)

don't tell me you not kan chiong?:rolleyes:

Dunno who is the one who more kan chiong since last week:rolleyes:
anyway, the wc starts tomorrow and i'm sure everyone also very kan chiong already now:)

don't tell me you not kan chiong?:rolleyes:

Ok...Ok...every body kan chiong ....! :D

So got ur private lounge ready for ur WC week...? ;)...

Foods, Drinks , tid-bits, panadol, minyak cap kapak,......ambulance phone number (madbad's number) every things ready....? :D:D:D

Yeah, everything ready..including my tongkat ali ginseng:p:p
and also my yonex clapper bag...:p
anymore to add? beer?? wine?:D

only 6 player/pair left

only 6 player/pair left

Only WCH left from those uncles and anties group...........

Although LCW is ranked WR 1, but nobody can deny that LD is the real favourite to win WC. LCW can still win if he produce 110 % form especially again LD, if not, I am sorry to say no chance

mas can't win the ws title now..as wong mew choo bowed out from the tournament yesterday..haiz:(

mas can't win the ws title now..as wong mew choo bowed out from the tournament yesterday..haiz:(

She was outlasted by the pocket dynamite Ai Goto.:eek: You can see WMC's battery was flat and her body language was showing she had given up.
This Ai Goto stands not taller than the net! but can she run!! She reminds me of the powerpuff girls...hahaha :D
WMC gotta up her fitness levels....like that of 2007!

yep, japanese players are very hardworking on court in my opinion..they will run and catch the bird whenever it go:eek:
thats why i won't be surprise too if the japanese pair win over koo/tan later:eek:;);)

She was outlasted by the pocket dynamite Ai Goto.:eek: You can see WMC's battery was flat and her body language was showing she had given up.
This Ai Goto stands not taller than the net! but can she run!! She reminds me of the powerpuff girls...hahaha :D
WMC gotta up her fitness levels....like that of 2007!
..could've gone either way. Personally, i don't know if WMC's battery was flat or not and her body language was showing she had given up; if it was, the scoreline in the 3rd & deciding game wouldn't have been that close, 23-21, if not mistaken??. I just think Ai Goto just came much more prepared & focused for this WC.

today, thursday.....japan and malaysia are at par now... ... 6 each. denmark and korea has 8 players/pairs
indonesia and china of course much more

Malaysia had every right for optimism going into the worlds with a couple of world no.1s and many players with potential. Going into the quarter finals they have only 2 MD pairs surviving and LCW. Of course if one of those claims a title Malaysia can call the 2009 WC a success but if not they will remain underperformers at the big events.

Well, whatever slim chance MAS has of landing a WC09 title have always rested on LCW and KKK/TBH. WMC and CEH/WPT have practically no chance, No. 1 or not.

It's the quarterfinals now. LCW and KKK/TBH are still around. There's another day to fight. Good luck to Fuzzy too, you never know with them.

..for those interested and who haven't watched their match, here is the link to their videos:
http://www.badmintonfreak.com/wong-mew-choo-vs-ai-gato-video/

A pretty good match. Personally, i thought Ai Goto played a patient match. She has a very good footwork and covers the court well, despite her diminutive size & height. She also is quite deceptive in her shots.

And for more videos:
http://www.badmintonfreak.com

enjoy!:cool:

3 remain in the draw,how many left tomorow?

..i mean feel Pemuda's presence hovering and reading........and maybe smiling over this thread..;)

Imagine if there are 0 (zero) M'sian players left for tomorrow??..chances are 50-50 for all 3 of them..

..i mean feel Pemuda's presence hovering and reading........and maybe smiling over this thread..;)

Imagine if there are 0 (zero) M'sian players left for tomorrow??..chances are 50-50 for all 3 of them..
ctjcad = Pemuda
army!!! charge!!
attack ctjcad!!! :mad:

ctjcad = Pemuda
army!!! charge!!
attack ctjcad!!! :mad:

who is ur army drifit?:confused:

Well, whatever slim chance MAS has of landing a WC09 title have always rested on LCW and KKK/TBH. WMC and CEH/WPT have practically no chance, No. 1 or not.

It's the quarterfinals now. LCW and KKK/TBH are still around. There's another day to fight. Good luck to Fuzzy too, you never know with them.

Agreed with your comments. Most of the XD if not all are just for the xperience, and Lydia is not up to the mark yet. I think she got her place in WC becos of Julia being injured. Julia wud have done better.
Our hopes (slim) have always rested with the MS and MD.:)

Well, whatever slim chance MAS has of landing a WC09 title have always rested on LCW and KKK/TBH. WMC and CEH/WPT have practically no chance, No. 1 or not.

It's the quarterfinals now. LCW and KKK/TBH are still around. There's another day to fight. Good luck to Fuzzy too, you never know with them.

true and LCW stand a better chances than KKK/TBH

LCW chances just grow better since Li Ning Take over from Yonex for CHINA! :cool:

true and LCW stand a better chances than KKK/TBH

LCW chances just grow better since Li Ning Take over from Yonex for CHINA! :cool:
are you sure about that? during lcw vs ld last meeting at swiss open, chong wei won the match in 2 sets and lin dan was still under yonex that time.:cool::):D

so now , malaysia chances to win wc will be relying on kkk/tbh, fuzzy pair and of course our very own datuk lee chong wei...only the ms and md mas are gunning for now.;)

I hate to admit it but the originator of this thread is right about LCW.

I am so frustrated with Lee Chong Wei. He just dont have the ability to perform on the big stage. He totally gave up yesterday.

I hope our MDs can now win us our first WC title.:cool:

Finally, the answer had been revelead..

THE ANSWER IS A BIG FAT NO:cool:

..and saying "See, I told you so" (http://www.frogstorm.com/WAVS/Itoldyouso.wav)..;)
Yes. I think Malaysia can win, with or without chef. Why make fuss over the presence of the chefs. Unnecessary pressure.;)
..hey there, koo_fan!!...We haven't heard from you for a while...Was your heart pounding y'day while watching your Ah Koo play vs. the Koreans??..;)

Btw, i wonder what the MAS squad will be having as their last meal in Hyderabad??..Satay?? Mamak Rojak?? Nasi Berlauk? Cincalok? Mee Hoon Kor??..:confused:

they will be having some 'GLORY AND REVENGE' fried rice by chef chris from usa as their last meal;)

well,the wait is started since 1977,and it go on and on and on

well, the wait is started since 1977, and it go on and on and on



.
And when MAS manage to win the WC, it would be the sweetest win. Let's hope MAS players work harder and win sooner. And that MAS fans don't give up hope on them.
.

his time will come. I'm sure most people agreed that he is one of the best of this era and he is in his prime. what he needed is a bit of luck to break the duck and get his first major to boos hid confident and the tiltes will keep coming. i dont believe that at his age he can and is wise to change his playing style, just be ready and at your best for the majors. keep it up.

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And when MAS manage to win the WC, it would be the sweetest win. Let's hope MAS players work harder and win sooner. And that MAS fans don't give up hope on them.
.

haha,ya
seriously,i hope i can witness it(dont win after i die:p)

haha,ya
seriously,i hope i can witness it(dont win after i die:p)better take care of yourself, it could be a long wait:D

better take care of yourself, it could be a long wait:D


:crying::crying::crying: how long should we wait???

:crying::crying::crying: how long should we wait???i kinda feel bad for MAS fans, your players (and the fans) try (cheer) so hard but no cigars so to speak.

the only chance MAS has is in MD. As long as LD is still around LCW chances are slim and not forgetting the young ones are slowly catching up. LCW may have the skills through hardwork and training but the 1% inborn talent sadly is missing and also the mental ability to use the skills learned wisely is lacking. I hate to say this but unfortunately he does not belong to the top 2% IQ group.
Just look at Nicol David now that's a very smart lady.
One last thing LCW should compare himself to Safina not Nadal.

:crying::crying::crying: how long should we wait???

One day, Lee Hsien Loong (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Hsien_Loong), Manmohan Singh (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manmohan_Singh) and danielwong bump into God.

Lee Hsien Loong (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Hsien_Loong) asks: "dear God, when can Singapore win a badminton WC gold?

God ponders a few seconds and says: "50 years!"

Lee Hsien Loong (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Hsien_Loong) bursts into tears and cries "oh no, I cannot live that long!"

Manmohan Singh (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manmohan_Singh) then asks "then what about India?"

God ponders a few minutes and says "100 years!"

Manmohan Singh (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manmohan_Singh) also bursts into tears and cries "oh no, I cannot live that long!"

Seeing the trend, danielwong tentatively asks "er, so what about Malaysia?"

God ponders a while, then suddenly brusts into tears and cires "oh no, I cannot live that long!"

:D

One day, Lee Hsien Loong (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Hsien_Loong), Manmohan Singh (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manmohan_Singh) and danielwong bump into God.

Lee Hsien Loong (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Hsien_Loong) asks: "dear God, when can Singapore win a badminton WC gold?

God ponders a few seconds and says: "50 years!"

Lee Hsien Loong (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Hsien_Loong) bursts into tears and cries "oh no, I cannot live that long!"

Manmohan Singh (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manmohan_Singh) then asks "then what about India?"

God ponders a few minutes and says "100 years!"

Manmohan Singh (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manmohan_Singh) also bursts into tears and cries "oh no, I cannot live that long!"

Seeing the trend, danielwong tentatively asks "er, so what about Malaysia?"

God ponders a while, then suddenly brusts into tears and cires "oh no, I cannot live that long!"

:D

we will see if that true:p

his time will come. I'm sure most people agreed that he is one of the best of this era and he is in his prime. what he needed is a bit of luck to break the duck and get his first major to boos hid confident and the tiltes will keep coming. i dont believe that at his age he can and is wise to change his playing style, just be ready and at your best for the majors. keep it up.

That's very encouraging, thank you. :)

One day, Lee Hsien Loong (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Hsien_Loong), Manmohan Singh (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manmohan_Singh) and danielwong bump into God.

Lee Hsien Loong (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Hsien_Loong) asks: "dear God, when can Singapore win a badminton WC gold?

God ponders a few seconds and says: "50 years!"

Lee Hsien Loong (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Hsien_Loong) bursts into tears and cries "oh no, I cannot live that long!"

Manmohan Singh (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manmohan_Singh) then asks "then what about India?"

God ponders a few minutes and says "100 years!"

Manmohan Singh (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manmohan_Singh) also bursts into tears and cries "oh no, I cannot live that long!"

Seeing the trend, danielwong tentatively asks "er, so what about Malaysia?"

God ponders a while, then suddenly brusts into tears and cires "oh no, I cannot live that long!"

:D

I thought 50 years is very long, but when I read the rest of God's prediction, I am now a bit assured! :D:D:D

One day, Lee Hsien Loong (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Hsien_Loong), Manmohan Singh (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manmohan_Singh) and danielwong bump into God.

Lee Hsien Loong (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Hsien_Loong) asks: "dear God, when can Singapore win a badminton WC gold?

God ponders a few seconds and says: "50 years!"

Lee Hsien Loong (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Hsien_Loong) bursts into tears and cries "oh no, I cannot live that long!"

Manmohan Singh (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manmohan_Singh) then asks "then what about India?"

God ponders a few minutes and says "100 years!"

Manmohan Singh (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manmohan_Singh) also bursts into tears and cries "oh no, I cannot live that long!"

Seeing the trend, danielwong tentatively asks "er, so what about Malaysia?"

God ponders a while, then suddenly brusts into tears and cires "oh no, I cannot live that long!"

:D
lol,I can't stop laughing.....
but it really seems true for now, the long wait never ends :(:crying:

well, i believe MAS would be able to get 1 WC.... one day.....,
given that:
- they really invested a lot;
- the nation does have a passion;
- it just need one talent singles player or at most one pair of talent player for doubles to achieve.. unlike team sports like soccer, you need a bunch of good athletes...
- that WC is now once every year... chance is increased...

... but how long?..

amongst the current players, only LCW and KKK/TBH could be amongst the WC contenders, the Fuzzy pairs are half contenders, others I could not see any chance...

his time will come. I'm sure most people agreed that he is one of the best of this era and he is in his prime. what he needed is a bit of luck to break the duck and get his first major to boos hid confident and the tiltes will keep coming. i dont believe that at his age he can and is wise to change his playing style, just be ready and at your best for the majors. keep it up.

Honestly, I doubt so. Age is not on his side.

One day, Lee Hsien Loong (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Hsien_Loong), Manmohan Singh (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manmohan_Singh) and danielwong bump into God.

Lee Hsien Loong (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Hsien_Loong) asks: "dear God, when can Singapore win a badminton WC gold?

God ponders a few seconds and says: "50 years!"

Lee Hsien Loong (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Hsien_Loong) bursts into tears and cries "oh no, I cannot live that long!"

Manmohan Singh (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manmohan_Singh) then asks "then what about India?"

God ponders a few minutes and says "100 years!"

Manmohan Singh (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manmohan_Singh) also bursts into tears and cries "oh no, I cannot live that long!"

Seeing the trend, danielwong tentatively asks "er, so what about Malaysia?"

God ponders a while, then suddenly brusts into tears and cires "oh no, I cannot live that long!"

:D

Wicked! :D:D:D:D

well, i believe MAS would be able to get 1 WC.... one day.....,
given that:
- they really invested a lot;
- the nation does have a passion;
- it just need one talent singles player or at most one pair of talent player for doubles to achieve.. unlike team sports like soccer, you need a bunch of good athletes...
- that WC is now once every year... chance is increased...

... but how long?..

amongst the current players, only LCW and KKK/TBH could be amongst the WC contenders, the Fuzzy pairs are half contenders, others I could not see any chance...

One day, unfortunately can be next year or 10 years or 100 years.
As a malaysian, I hope to see the day we win our first WC title though I doubt LCW can do it as he is no longer getting young. :crying:

Dear Boleh fans,

Ok, LCW finally won away from home as the MS WR1, he also finally managed to beat LD convincingly yesterday too.

KKK/TBH as well won the SO MD too.

Well, judging from all the feel good postings I see being plastered all over the forum, allow me to ask you all a question; can we win our first WC this year?

Ok, time to walk the talk now, lets have a specific answer rather than the usual "i hope LCW or KKK/TBH will win", "I will pray n hope very hard", "If the draw is good" etc etc.

Can we win the WC for the first time this year? Yes or no?

Allow me then to start the ball rolling with my prediction...

I will say 'No'.

Why??

For the MS, though LCW beat LD yesterday, I am yet to be convinced that LCW can deliver on the big stage. And it will be a different LD come the WC than the one we saw last night.

MD, I think the usual Malaysian temperament will set in i.e. win one tournament, they will lose their heads and will come crashing down next.

WS,WD,XD ... with respect, lets hope they show up in nice matching badminton kits.

Again, lets lay em' cards all on the table. Can Malaysian win its first WC this year? Yes or no?

Oh yes ... one more thing before I forget, Malaysia Boleh to you lot!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ys6EziYzrEc&feature=PlayList&p=BDEC77C2ED9C3F6B&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=8

:D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ys6EziYzrEc&feature=PlayList&p=BDEC77C2ED9C3F6B&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=8

:D

world class quality post:cool:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ys6EziYzrEc&feature=PlayList&p=BDEC77C2ED9C3F6B&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=8

:D
..you made another prediction abt LCW (or was it KKK & TBH??) winning no more than 3 Super Series titles for this yr, but i can't find that post..
Anyway, DLCW currently has 3 SS titles and most likely he'll be out the rest of the yr..Looks like you're 2 for 2 in your predictions..;)

..you made another prediction abt LCW (or was it KKK & TBH??) winning no more than 3 Super Series titles for this yr, but i can't find that post..
Anyway, DLCW currently has 3 SS titles and most likely he'll be out the rest of the yr..Looks like you're 2 for 2 in your predictions..;)

he say lcw can only win 2 and kkk/tbh can only win 1;)

..you must have a pretty good memory (so far, correct prediction on KKK & TBH);)..btw, do you know which post(s) you remember them from??..

..you must have a pretty good memory (so far, correct prediction on KKK & TBH);)..btw, do you know which post(s) you remember them from??..

that was last year post i think.
i sidebet with him but then canceled:cool:

..wow, you remembered all the way from last yr's post??..:eek:
I thought Pemuda made another prediction on DLCW and KKK & TBH, for this yr??..:confused:

..wow, you remembered all the way from last yr's post??..:eek:
I thought Pemuda made another prediction on DLCW and KKK & TBH, for this yr??..:confused:

yes
last year post that predict this year result:p

well,the wait is started since 1977,and it go on and on and on

haha,ya
seriously,i hope i can witness it(dont win after i die:p)

:crying::crying::crying: how long should we wait???

What do you mean by The Long Wait? :eek: I thought the wait is over with our historic victory in India ..... :D:D:D

See these pictures .......... :p:p:p

wow..mas-india mens double partnership?:D
abedeng oh abedeng:D

I be more than happy to have a side bet for next year's AE. But no cancellation this time la. If you are brave enough to place a bet, honour it la.