My friend and I are debating on which racket is lighter in terms of weight in grams. The Muscle Power 100, Ti-10, Isometric Ti Swing Power SA, or the Isometric 90 Light?

I'm not sure for Isometric 90 Light as I never experience with this racquet before. Among the other three, Ti Swing Power SA is definitely the lightest, even in compare with 3U version of MP-100 and Ti-10.

The weights of the rackets are marked as either 4,3 or 2U or just U or 3L. But you probably knew that already. Even though, the weights are always that slight bit off. Maybe by a gram or 2 so you can't really say which 1 is lighter. But you can find out which ones are supposed to be lighter.

In this case, the Isometric Ti Swing Power SA and the Isometric 90 Light should be both equally as light at about 89g. The other 2 should both be equally as heavy at about 94g.

Isometric Ti Swing Power SA only weights 81g.

oh yeah i forgot about that. Its 4U in weight, sorry, my mistake

I just put all these racket on the scale. These data are base on strung(with BG 65), original grip with the plastice wrap. Here are the #:

MP 100 2u 98gm
MP 100 3u 94gm
ISO SP SA 87 gm
ISO 60 Light MF 93 gm

Stationary weight can be mislead player about the swing weight of a racket.For example, a 2U MP 100 (even balance racket) feel as light or even lighter than a 3u TI 10(head heavy)! It depends on the balance point of the racket.

Hope this help.

This brings us to something I've wondered about:
Does anybody know why Yonex don't make 3U versions available in Europe? (That is, apart from Ti7 and SP) The European market can't really be THAT small?

Interestingly enough, according to the Yonex US web site (www.yonex.com), only 3U versions are available of Ti10, Ti8, Ti7 and Ti6 over there... in Europe they only come in 2U (apart from Ti7, according to the Yonex catalogue). That's even more strange. Are the Americans conidered too weak for heavy racquets? ;-)

I think the reason is that most players in the US are Asian and also the skill level are not as high as Europe in general. Therefore, ligher weight rackets sell better here in the US. Yonex USA did not have any racket in 3U until 3 year ago, and now most of the high price rackets are in 3U. For MP 100, we even have a choice of 2U or 3U! I guess we are lucky!!

i think it may have to do with the mentality that lighter==better, or conversely, heavy==bad.

whenever some non-badminton friend sees my "superduper high-tech carbon fiber" racket, the first thing they'd say is, this must be very light. Yonex probably know this and is marketing their product accordingly.

Except for very few occasions, only 2U is available in HK as well.

yonex are slow learner. I have told yonex repres in canada many times before to import 3U or make light version rackets as most of my friends go back to asia to buy 3U rackets that they cant get in north america. That was 5 to 7 years ago. Actually, they force to do it before the competitions do make 3U and even 4U. Yonex is very stubborn.

isn't the racken'ts mass marketed with the wieght without string? let alone even the plastic wrap on teh grip?

I don't get the u thing.Byro-Nenium wrote:
>
> The weights of the rackets are marked as either 4,3 or
> 2U or just U or 3L. But you probably knew that already. Even
> though, the weights are always that slight bit off. Maybe by
> a gram or 2 so you can't really say which 1 is lighter. But
> you can find out which ones are supposed to be lighter.
>
> In this case, the Isometric Ti Swing Power SA and the
> Isometric 90 Light should be both equally as light at about
> 89g. The other 2 should both be equally as heavy at about
> 94g.

It is a weight system used mainly by Yonex. 3U means the weight is 85-89 g, 2U means 90-94 g.

I don't mean to be rude, but here's a tip: whenever entering a new forum it considered good manners to read through the old topics and discussions before starting to post. That way we don't have to regurgitate the same stuff again and again.

I did actually. But I still didn't get it. Thanks.

Mag, unfortunately, this message board tends to get quirky with people changing topics in the middle of a discussion thread and it is harder for newcomers to the site to find discussions just by the topics, without reading every single message for the past several months (e.g., our most thorough, substantive discussion of string tensions appeared under the topic "What racquet to buy?"). This particular discussion thread seems to be pretty focused, though.

I think you are correct (you did suggest this previously, didn't you?) that we need a FAQ page about particulars of equipment, strategies, etc.., separate from the current FAQ page, which only discusses the sport of badminton in general.