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Sudirman Cup 2009 Indonesian Team

Lius Pongoh, PBSI official in charge of development affairs, said on Friday 20-Mar-2009; "We are still considering the possibility over using athletes from outside the national training camp."

IMHO, Lius should invite the best Indonesian players to form the INA Sudirman Cup team. Should it matter if the players are from inside or from outside the national training camp? :confused::confused::confused:

For more news as reported by The Jarkate Post: click here (http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2009/03/21/outcasts-may-be-recalled-sudirman-cup.html)

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Definitely, if they're ready to represent their country, and are the best the country has to offer, then they should be invited for the team.

I agree too.

If badminton is to progress anywhee it must get away from the Nationalised way of running the game. Selecting players from non national based setups must be at least considered. Unfortunately this will mean a falling in stature of such compettions as TC, UC & SC since these tournaments are inherently nationally focussed.

I agree too.

If badminton is to progress anywhere it must get away from the Nationalised way of running the game. Selecting players from non national based setups must be at least considered. Unfortunately this will mean a falling in stature of such competitions as TC, UC & SC since these tournaments are inherently nationally focussed.



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Yes, it's a surprise, isn't it? :confused::confused::confused:

Although Taufik said publicly that he would accept any invitations to represent Indonesia at Inter-Nations events, PBSI said they wanted to think over it.
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By the way, for those who did not know how INA performed at the last (2007) Sudirman Cup, Indonesia made it to the Finals to face China.

Here is what happened at Glasgow 2007: click here (http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2007/06/19/despite-their-failings-honest-heroes-deserve-respect.html-0)
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Possible INA Team
Sony Dwi Kuncoro
Taufik Hidayat -- I have a feeling he might be called up yet again, esp if he has a good result this week. Similarly for Flandy Limpele and Vita Marissa.
Simon Santoso
Maria Kristin Yulianti
Adriyanti Firdasari
Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan
Bona Septano/Mohd Ahsan or Rian Sukmawan/Yonathan Suryatama Dasuki
Nova Widianto/Liliyana Natsir
Flandy Limpele/Vita Marissa
Meiliana Jauhari/Shendy Puspa Irawati or Nitya Krishinda Maheswari/Greysia Polii

As for China, I will expect:
Lin Dan
Bao Chunlai or Chen Jin
Any 2 WS players (at the moment, Wang Yihan and Jiang Yanjiao are the ones on-form)
Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun
Guo Zhendong/Xu Chen
Du Jing/Yu Yang
Zhang Yawen/Zhao Tingting
Cheng Shu/Zhao Yunlei
He Hanbin/Yu Yang
Xie Zhongbo/Zhang Yawen or Zheng Bo/Ma Jin

Korea:
Park Sung Hwan
Hong Ji Hoon or Lee Hyun Il being called up yet again perhaps?
Hwang Hye Youn
Bae Youn Joo
Jung Jae Sung/Lee Yong Dae
Hwang Ji Man/Han Sang Hoon
Lee Kyung Won/Lee Hyo Jung
Ha Jung Eun/Kim Min Jung
Lee Yong Dae/Lee Hyo Jung
any combination of the doubles players to make up another XD

Denmark:
Peter Gade
Joachim Persson
Tine Rasmussen
Nana Brosolat Jensen
Lars Paaske/Jonas Rasmussen
Mathias Boe/Carsten Mogensen
Lena Frier-Kristensen/Kamilla Rytter-Juhl
Christinna Pedersen/Mie Schjoett-Kristensen
Thomas Laybourn/Kamilla Rytter-Juhl
Joachim Fischer-Nielsen/Christinna Pedersen

Malaysia
Lee Chong Wei
any back-up MS
Julia Wong Pei Xian
Wong Mew Choo
Koo Kien Keat/Tan Boon Heong
Mohd Fairuzizuan Mohd Tazari/Mohd Zakry Abdul Latif
Wong Pei Tty/Chin Ee Hui
Goh Liu Ying/Ng Hui Lin
Koo Kien Keat/Ng Hui Lin
Mohd Fairuzizuan Mohd Tazari/Wong Pei Tty or Lim Khim Wah/Wong Pei Tty

Possible INA Team
Sony Dwi Kuncoro
Taufik Hidayat -- I have a feeling he might be called up yet again, esp if he has a good result this week. Similarly for Flandy Limpele and Vita Marissa.
Simon Santoso
Maria Kristin Yulianti
Adriyanti Firdasari
Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan
Bona Septano/Mohd Ahsan or Rian Sukmawan/Yonathan Suryatama Dasuki
Nova Widianto/Liliyana Natsir
Flandy Limpele/Vita Marissa
Meiliana Jauhari/Shendy Puspa Irawati or Nitya Krishinda Maheswari/Greysia Polii



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Yes ... We hope that Taufik Hidayat, Flandy Limpele and Vita Marissa would be called up.

Based on The Jarkate Post (click here (http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2009/03/21/outcasts-may-be-recalled-sudirman-cup.html)), it appears that;
* Taufik Hidayat is interested
* Flandy Limpele is not sure
* Vita Marissa is not interested
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has sony recovered from his injuries?

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Yes ... We hope that Taufik Hidayat, Flandy Limpele and Vita Marissa would be called up.

Based on The Jarkate Post (click here (http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2009/03/21/outcasts-may-be-recalled-sudirman-cup.html)), it appears that;
* Taufik Hidayat is interested
* Flandy Limpele is not sure
* Vita Marissa is not interested
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Taufik's response: "If, say, the championship is next week, and they invite me today, it would be difficult *to accept*" - Very diplomatic - :p

Flandy's response: "I have to see first who's included in the Sudirman Cup team. If all the other team members are juniors, why should I waste my energy joining a losing team?" - Realistic approach - :)

Vita's response: "They should be ashamed if they want to use me again." "They'd better not call me back." - I sense anger within the words - :eek::o

BTW, Mr. Chris, it's Jakarta.:p

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Jagdpanther ... I believe that Taufik is truly interested to participate. But he wished to be informed earlier.

However, Flandy does not wish to be committed yet. And yes, Vita is still very angry.

Sorry about the typo: Jakarta. :o:o:o
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i'd say we shouldnt call taufik or anyone outside pelatnas to play at sudirman cup...i'd tell lius to use our juniors, so simon as 1st singles, sony 2nd...fran/pia and nova/butet...strictly bona ahsan or rian yoke for MD and maria as WS...we might not get far, but the overall goal is for these 'youngsters' to take in as much experience as possible for the future...i'd say this because lets face it...no country is as strong as/stronger than china right now...so whats the point?might as well get something more important than getting trashed in the final again....

It's kind of sad hearing Vita's comment on possibility of being called up again. It shows the deep anger from many years of dissatisfaction.

If I were Vita, I will join the team and channel the anger into energy to beat the opponents. There is no better way to show PBSI or anyone she despises in PBSI that she is still the best around and let them lick their own spit.

It's kind of sad hearing Vita's comment on possibility of being called up again. It shows the deep anger from many years of dissatisfaction.

If I were Vita, I will join the team and channel the anger into energy to beat the opponents. There is no better way to show PBSI or anyone she despises in PBSI that she is still the best around and let them lick their own spit.



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Agree totally. And Vita has many fans too. :)
Vita should send a message to her fans that she can still be the best without PBSI.
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Agree totally. And Vita has many fans too. :)
Vita should send a message to her fans that she can still be the best without PBSI.
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could someone explain why she is angry and dont know to play for her country please?

i'd say we shouldnt call taufik or anyone outside pelatnas to play at sudirman cup...i'd tell lius to use our juniors, so simon as 1st singles, sony 2nd...fran/pia and nova/butet...strictly bona ahsan or rian yoke for MD and maria as WS...we might not get far, but the overall goal is for these 'youngsters' to take in as much experience as possible for the future...i'd say this because lets face it...no country is as strong as/stronger than china right now...so whats the point?might as well get something more important than getting trashed in the final again....

It will be a good experience to field a completely junior team. But be reminded that the team might get relegated to 2nd division if they fail to win a match :cool: To be safe, it's still necessary to win at least 2 matches and get into the SF.

could someone explain why she is angry and dont know to play for her country please?



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You mean "don't want to play for her country"?

IMHO, it is not that she doesn't want to play for her country, but that she is angry with the PBSI National Team Management/Administration. It's something to do with some disagreement in her contract with PBSI.

And Sandy posted this: click here (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1088907&postcount=783)
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It will be a good experience to field a completely junior team. But be reminded that the team might get relegated to 2nd division if they fail to win a match :cool: To be safe, it's still necessary to win at least 2 matches and get into the SF.



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INA has always been strong at the Sudirman Cup. It would be a disappointment if INA decides to field only a junior team this year, 2009.
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i read from bulutangkis.com 's discussion board that Hendra Setiawan probably going to be paired up with Alvent Yulianto on the 2009 Sudirman Cup. and the Asian Badminton championship would likely to be their first tourney as a pair . . . . . .

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INA has always been strong at the Sudirman Cup. It would be a disappointment if INA decides to field only a junior team this year, 2009.
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INA will be represented by their best players for important target like Sudirman Cup.

For Sudirman Cup in China, I guess PBSI should use Juniors for their mental exercise. This is good for long-term purposes.

Senior players like TH, Simon, etc should focus on SS....

For Sudirman Cup in China, I guess PBSI should use Juniors for their mental exercise. This is good for long-term purposes.

Senior players like TH, Simon, etc should focus on SS....
in contrary, i'd like to see all stars to compete in Sudirman Cup.
Let's not let us down, INA.

Can someone explain why Joko Riyadi is still playing for Indonesia?
If the law allowed it, Candra Wijaya would have strangled him at the India Open :o

Can someone explain why Joko Riyadi is still playing for Indonesia?
If the law allowed it, Candra Wijaya would have strangled him at the India Open :o
you are so mean....:D:mad:...I know what you mean...Joko/Candra should have nailed the 2nd set in semi against TCF/LWW...well..Indonesia is only country Joko has...;)

Mari Bung, Rebut Kembali..

Mari Bung, Rebut Kembali..
Hey..keep this coming!

Malaysia Boleh is all the way.

Hey..keep this coming!

Malaysia Boleh is all the way.

Indonesia or Malaysia to win Sudirman cup lah..
Don't let China win again lah..

Indonesia or Malaysia to win Sudirman cup lah..
Don't let China win again lah..
You'll get the best treat ever if you do come to Malaysia.

All Malaysians will love you. Keep my words.

You'll get the best treat ever if you do come to Malaysia.

All Malaysians will love you. Keep my words.

Treat me Roti canai & Teh tarik. That's enough lah..

Indonesia or Malaysia to win Sudirman cup lah..
Don't let China win again lah..

You'll get the best treat ever if you do come to Malaysia.

All Malaysians will love you. Keep my words.

Treat me Roti canai & Teh tarik. That's enough lah..

just combine both nation squad....:D...the chance is bigger....:D

just combine both nation squad....:D...the chance is bigger....:D

yeah. INA & MAS:
MS: SDK & LCW,
MD: MK/HS & KKK/TBH,
WS: MKY & WMC,
WD: - & WPT/CEH,
XD: NW/LN & - .
is it right? should we include HH?

yeah. INA & MAS:
MS: SDK & LCW,
MD: MK/HS & KKK/TBH,
WS: MKY & WMC,
WD: - & WPT/CEH,
XD: NW/LN & - .
is it right? should we include HH?

vita/liliyana:D...
razif/woon khe wei....:p
hafiz????we made a round robin match....hehe...see if he can beat lcw and th,sdk...:D

just combine both nation squad....:D...the chance is bigger....:D
aduh, don't la. Or else China would not stand a chance.
-I hope cooler don't see this-

joking apart, couldnt it be about time to have something like the Ryder's cup in golf with CHN against the rest of the world for the Sudirman and Uber Cups? May be not the Thomas cup just yet.

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Yes ... We hope that Taufik Hidayat, Flandy Limpele and Vita Marissa would be called up.

Based on The Jarkate Post (click here (http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2009/03/21/outcasts-may-be-recalled-sudirman-cup.html)), it appears that;
* Taufik Hidayat is interested
* Flandy Limpele is not sure
* Vita Marissa is not interested
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What happened to the LN/VM women's pairing? Has the pairing been split?

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vita/liliyana:D...
razif/woon khe wei....:p
hafiz????we made a round robin match....hehe...see if he can beat lcw and th,sdk...:D
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What happened to the LN/VM women's pairing? Has the pairing been split?

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They are splitted. Vita Marissa already quit national team.. the coach want Liliyana Natsir just focus on XD..

They are splitted. Vita Marissa already quit national team.. the coach want Liliyana Natsir just focus on XD..


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What a waste. They were very good. LN should be paired with another woman's player to play women's doubles again.


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What a waste. They were very good. LN should be paired with another woman's player to play women's doubles again.


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the WD coach want LN just concentrate to play XD.. since she has the bigger chance to win title.
I think LN pairing with Greysa Poli, they can be a good pair. they two are tomboys..

joking apart, couldnt it be about time to have something like the Ryder's cup in golf with CHN against the rest of the world for the Sudirman and Uber Cups? May be not the Thomas cup just yet.
You think this is really the right time, do you?

Of course PBSI said they were thinking will used non pelatnas player. They didnot wanted to lost face if they said they will definitely used Taufik and probably Vita/Flandy in Sudirman Cup.

Not to mention that Taufik and Vita/Flandy (If I am not wrong) are the only winner this year from Men Singles and XD for Indonesia . (From Indian Open)

Meanwhile, pelatnas MS players still are not as good as Taufik and only Nova/Butet can rival Flandi/Vita skill in XD.

Indonesia badly need for young promising players that can rise quickly in MS and XD. ( Hopeless for WS and WD)

i'd say we shouldnt call taufik or anyone outside pelatnas to play at sudirman cup...i'd tell lius to use our juniors, so simon as 1st singles, sony 2nd...fran/pia and nova/butet...strictly bona ahsan or rian yoke for MD and maria as WS...we might not get far, but the overall goal is for these 'youngsters' to take in as much experience as possible for the future...i'd say this because lets face it...no country is as strong as/stronger than china right now...so whats the point?might as well get something more important than getting trashed in the final again....

But you see, Indonesia managers are only about SAVING FACE. Even if our team got trashed 3-0 in final , its better than lost in Semi or even preliminary round if they use junior players in Sudirman Cup.

Why do you think they still called Chandra Wijaya for playing Thomas CUp in 2006 and 2008 and not some junior players.

At least if they reach final, they can say they at least had the same result and not lower than previous Sudirman Cup.

So though I wanted they use junior players, they will call TH and maybe Flandi/Vita.

It's kind of sad hearing Vita's comment on possibility of being called up again. It shows the deep anger from many years of dissatisfaction.

If I were Vita, I will join the team and channel the anger into energy to beat the opponents. There is no better way to show PBSI or anyone she despises in PBSI that she is still the best around and let them lick their own spit.

No use. Even if they call Flandi/Vita back for Sudirman Cup. After the Sudirman Cup over, they will kick Fandi/Vita out again from pelatnas. Why bother to come back then? PBSI proverb is : "Habis Manis Sepah Dibuang"

Flandi/Vita can always play usual tournaments and get the best results as they could and in a way slap PBSI face for kicking them out. They are still one of the best XD pair in the world.

But you see, Indonesia managers are only about SAVING FACE. Even if our team got trashed 3-0 in final , its better than lost in Semi or even preliminary round if they use junior players in Sudirman Cup.

Why do you think they still called Chandra Wijaya for playing Thomas CUp in 2006 and 2008 and not some junior players.

At least if they reach final, they can say they at least had the same result and not lower than previous Sudirman Cup.

So though I wanted they use junior players, they will call TH and maybe Flandi/Vita.

There's GP and GP gold tourney for the younger player to gain exposure and experience. In a big event like Sudirman Cup, you want to field your best team, regardless whom they might be. The best team for PBSI will need to include Taufik and perhaps Candra. Dunno about Flandy/Vita....Vita's performance in the IO is not very convincing at all....

Not to mention the possibility of being dropped to Div 2.

Not to mention that Taufik and Vita/Flandy (If I am not wrong) are the only winner this year from Men Singles and XD for Indonesia . (From Indian Open)


Nova Widianto/Liliyana Natsir won Malaysia open this year..