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george@chongwei
03-27-2009, 09:01 PM
Well, even if their allowance is higher than what INA players receive, I don't think they wanna splurge it all on room service??
As LCW said, the players will get bored of the hotel food and they wanna experience outside food. To me, there's nothing wrong with making that kinda statement, but, of course, you have to bear the consequences if the food that you eat is "special" ;)
agree with this;)
george@chongwei
03-27-2009, 09:03 PM
So food poison substance has a time release feature? It comes to effect starting at 2nd set?
look at the sentence nicely;)
I could have beaten him under normal circumstances but this was just one of those day
he said that that day is just not his day that he had been rocked by food poisoning. not like chen long, he got eat 'po ji yuan':p
ya know, food poisoning can come to anyone and at anytime. U wont know when u will get it.
george@chongwei
03-27-2009, 09:04 PM
i thot lcw first said food poisoning from takeout food in india...???
but 'someone' here so confidently said that its the food that are in the plane:rolleyes:
george@chongwei
03-27-2009, 09:06 PM
ya, some inconsistency here. LCW thinks some other players likely affected too because they also went out to eat with him. Somehow singles players TTLee, Roslin, Daren Liew, HH, Wei T. Chong, KBeng Khan, S.A. Ayob, Chen Seang Tan, Beng HongKuan, WMChoo have advanced their round.
did he stated other player's name too except mew choo?;):D
george@chongwei
03-27-2009, 09:09 PM
but i thot it was LYB's plan for CJ to lose. BTW, CJ didn't use food poisoning as a way out.
food poisoning and lyb's plan at the same time.:D
MAYBE the china press is smarter, they kept this secretly in their country:p, but chong wei is wr1, that's why anything small matter, the media will come to him.
even 'someone' here so kan chiong untill wanna open a new thread:rolleyes:
george@chongwei
03-27-2009, 09:15 PM
Overall like I said originally he lost because CL was the better player on the day. I am dissapointed LCW has now made the excuse as well as giving the reason for his loss. IMO he misunderestimated him, even an unwell LCW should be beating CL....
not to worry, as we all stated and know before, if one has stomach upset/food poisoning, and the next day/hours u will play a badminton match, what will you feel if u are chong wei? not saying underestimated CL, wow, did u said even an unwell chong wei should be beating CL?
CL is the junior champion/wr1, while chong wei is wr1 in senior stage..:p
what for chong wei wanna underestimate him? i think chong wei would want to win this badly as earlier before this in local press, he had stated that he will do his very best in this india open. unfortunately, food poisoning eventually hit him. just as easy as that:cool: once again, i disagree with you:D
george@chongwei
03-27-2009, 09:18 PM
http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=72F1F101-544B-4C1F-B8BE-11BB3296ADE8&player=20
http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=72F1F101-544B-4C1F-B8BE-11BB3296ADE8&player=31
i'm no bolehians so my spelling wasn't 100% but bolehians should recognized them tho.
this just shows that u are indeed no bolehians but jia youians:D(add oil fans):p
george@chongwei
03-27-2009, 09:27 PM
i've heard that a chess world champion never won a match against a 'well and fit' opponent, always excuses, excuses. how difficult it is to say i'm worng or i was rubbish today? well, ask mr brown.
please compare apple to apple, dude;)
george@chongwei
03-27-2009, 09:29 PM
when someone ACT to be clever...bcer will see how stupid he/she is...;)
this is somehow very true sometimes in reality or here;):rolleyes:
cooler
03-27-2009, 09:32 PM
did he stated other player's name too except mew choo?;):D
no names, i did read from an news article (which i didnt post since there are so many of them already) that lcw had said he believed others players / coaches who ate with lcw, would be affected too.
george@chongwei
03-27-2009, 09:35 PM
Wow! I was away for work in Singapore for 2 days and this thread exploded.
Anyway, back to you ...
Please read my posting again. I did not say CL is a better shuttler than LCW. I said CL beat LCW because he was a better shuttler on that day.
As per your football Brazil v France with France winning 1-0 based on 'an offside goal' thingy ... are you implying that CL beat LCW illegally??
As for em' Brazillian's samba and passing skills, if you have played an organised sport before, you will know one thing, the decision of the match official is final. In football, you can do them Hollywood passes, flicks, fancy footwork all day long but if you cant put that ball into the net, you dont win. Its very simple. This is what football is about, not a circus - if you like watching ball skills and tricks.
yep, this thread exploded and you should read post by post and read all your favorite mas boleh thingy subject here;) unfortunately no tallest flagpole and biggest roti canai so far, just taxpayers money:D.
Again, the above bold sentence is just like u flip flop it become roti bom or whatever roti over there:o;)
if an offside goal is considered illegal to you, oh, gosh..
cooler
03-27-2009, 09:37 PM
this just shows that u are indeed no bolehians but jia youians:D(add oil fans):p
hmm, let me put it in mathematical equation.
if C not equal to B, then C has to equal to J???
george@chongwei
03-27-2009, 09:40 PM
Based on your theory then, most of us here will say Rudy Hartono is not a badminton legend because most of us did not have a chance to watch him play before and thus have no 'PROOF' how great Rudy was :o
And I believe most of us here have never watched Pele or George Best in action before. On your theory, we cant say they were legends since we got no 'PROOF' :o
oh, if like that, that means its just YOU alone who did not have a single chance watching RH in action. i've watched many videos of him in action though. some of the video can download;)
so the conclusion is, err maybe its just you who have no chance at all watching those legends in actions because u are too busy already with your biggest roti canai, tallest flagpole and all malaysia boleh achievements, u need to get update then:(
cooler
03-27-2009, 09:41 PM
this is somehow very true sometimes in reality or here;):rolleyes:
i totally agree, i'm very confident u guys weren't acting, u are all 100% naturalle:p,,, That's what worries us tho:p
george@chongwei
03-27-2009, 09:45 PM
no names, i did read from an news article (which i didnt post since there are so many of them already) that lcw had said he believed others players / coaches who ate with lcw, would be affected too.
so we can;t basically actually know who are the players other than chong wei and mew choo having this food poisoning.;)
george@chongwei
03-27-2009, 09:47 PM
hmm, let me put it in mathematical equation.
if C not equal to B, then C has to equal to J???
the answer is C not equal to B but C equal to J;)
that's the formula though:D
cooler
03-27-2009, 09:49 PM
so we can;t basically actually know who are the players other than chong wei and mew choo having this food poisoning.;)
i dont know which names, that is why i put down ALL the MAS singles names who advanced their 1st round. I didn't say all of them were food poisoned, just those ones who accompanied lcw on that dinner nite. U can take your pick as to whom. Fact is almost all of them advanced except lcw and just 1 other MAS player
badMania
03-27-2009, 09:53 PM
I will expect the mods to close this thread (as expected with the other threads related to MAS players) considering there's nothing new anymore.
Regardless of the possibility of food poisoning, Lee Chong Wei simply lost to a junior shuttler from CHN who performed better than him on that day. Period. And this junior shuttler is on his way to his first GP Gold Final.
george@chongwei
03-27-2009, 09:54 PM
]i dont know which names, that is why i put down ALL the MAS singles names who advanced their 1st round. I didn't say all of them were food poisoned, just those ones who accompanied lcw on that dinner nite[/b]. U can take your pick as to whom. Fact is almost all of them advanced except lcw and just 1 other MAS player
u dunno who got food poisoning except chong wei and mew choo but u list ALL the mas singles name who adnaced to the 2nd round?:D LOL
we can't just simply making an assumption here if we dunno which is true.:cool:
george@chongwei
03-27-2009, 10:02 PM
I will expect the mods to close this thread (as expected with the other threads related to MAS players) considering there's nothing new anymore.
Lee Chong Wei lost to a junior shuttler from CHN who performed better than him on that day. Period. And this junior shuttler is on his way to his first GP Gold Final.
that's right.
i dunno why this thread was created actually, no idea whats the main intention.
Just LCW lost in the 1st round because of food poisoning, already so kan chiong wanna open a new thread.:o no idea what the thread owner think about.
cooler
03-27-2009, 11:04 PM
that's right.
i dunno why this thread was created actually, no idea whats the main intention.
Just LCW lost in the 1st round because of food poisoning, already so kan chiong wanna open a new thread.:o no idea what the thread owner think about.
ya, u should begin by asking this thread owner first
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67571
cooler
03-27-2009, 11:14 PM
Of course not....I meant that because LN got this deal it will be good for badminton.
Yes I will be moving them soon:crying:
oh, then u r correct. Any interest from a new sponsor is a plus for badminton popularity. In fact, i think this is the first time badminton has interest from a full spectrum of sponsorship, mega, medium and small size. Before we only had yonex as the key anchor which i alway saw them as medium size fish. I would put Li Ning as mega size since they are in many other sports as well, and well funded. Buying kason and outbidding yonex this quick is a tactic of very large company.
drifit
03-28-2009, 02:22 AM
I will expect the mods to close this thread (as expected with the other threads related to MAS players) considering there's nothing new anymore.
Regardless of the possibility of food poisoning, Lee Chong Wei simply lost to a junior shuttler from CHN who performed better than him on that day. Period. And this junior shuttler is on his way to his first GP Gold Final.
we are happy to do so, if members start with;
1. you xxxx xxxx xxxx
2. 'some one' xxxx xxxx xxxx
the discussion and finger shall point to the thread meant for, not to individual member. :(
eaglehelang
03-28-2009, 02:34 AM
u dunno who got food poisoning except chong wei and mew choo but u list ALL the mas singles name who adnaced to the 2nd round?:D LOL
we can't just simply making an assumption here if we dunno which is true.:cool:
LOL, If they really kan cheong & so.... "concerned" to know, when LCW and/or other players arrive at KLIA, wait for them there and ask lor. Then can ask direct - 'when must take risk', why this & that. :p
I say before mah, a group of people eat same table, same dish, same food, from established restaurant some more, also can 1 or 2 person only get stomach upset/food poisoning, the rest of us ok only, no problem. Ironically, those who are particular/careful abt food cleaniness, etc, are often the ones more easily affected. So we tease them as having 'clean' stomach, cannot stand any germs, since they're so used to very clean food/water. ;):D
cooler
03-28-2009, 02:46 AM
for westerners, even me, i was advised to get all the shots (vaccine) before visiting SE aisa. Some SE asian here who were raised in SE asia, have told me they dont need to because they have body resistant built in from years living there already. So, why do people like in MAS, INA for example, travelling to india needed extra precaution over what are normal hygenic practices?? I thot have lot of built in immunity of tropical bugs already
drifit
03-28-2009, 03:21 AM
a lot doesnt total immune. ;)
my point of view, since not many able to fully clarify my questions.
1. taking the unnecessary risk - silly mistake
2. simply make own decision - bored and go venture
3. not fully dedicated
4. assume - thought everything will be okay
many did compare here and there. let me create a story and let's see what everyone think of it.
my boss, my company, decided to send me to Canada for business. flight, fees, passport, meals, lodging, travel and etc are fully provided. my meetings with cooler has been scheduled on 11am Wednesday. i reach Canada early, Sunday, for some final preparations. this business will generate a USD10k net profit. on Tuesday night, after some boring meals which are hygienic, i decided to venture out some 'funny' food. gosh.... stomach ache, i got food poisoning. take some medicine and pray hard i will get well before the meeting. now, during my meeting with cooler, worst thing that could happen. nightmare. meeting with cooler is a disaster. cooler needs to take off to China in the Wednesday noon that day itself. business lost. i come back.
1. nevermind, "hey cooler, can i come back next year to resume the meeting?"
2. nevermind boss..... lost the business, not lost of life
3. nevermind, company still running and able to absorb my expenditure
4. nevermind, next year still can go there and negotiate again
5. nevermind, boss and colleagues still support me
6. nevermind, is just a small business, i can go Japan for better deal, hopefully....
having said, i do support Malaysia. i do support LCW as our representative. when it comes to negligence, silly mistake, play by own rules and poor dedication are just upsetting me. i dont mind if LCW loose to anyone. he can perform his best effort on his worse day. even if he woke up at the wrong side of bed, and tell me, today is not my day. my forehand shots are not used to be and the opponent grab this oppurtunity to win the match. i will be glad.....:)
err... sorry to cooler, just need an example. :D:p
koo_fan
03-28-2009, 03:36 AM
drifit, fully understand what are you trying to make us understand.
I am not backing up Chong Wei for his negligence, i am backing him up because we treat his ' i eat outside food' as ' i want to lose' . It is totally unfair.
I'd want him to stop thinking of excuses, help him to do it. The case here is, whether or not he's giving an excuse, some would not bother. He's still a bad guy who doesn't care much about a win for Malaysia.
cooler
03-28-2009, 03:55 AM
a lot doesnt total immune. ;)
my point of view, since not many able to fully clarify my questions.
1. taking the unnecessary risk - silly mistake
2. simply make own decision - bored and go venture
3. not fully dedicated
4. assume - thought everything will be okay
many did compare here and there. let me create a story and let's see what everyone think of it.
my boss, my company, decided to send me to Canada for business. flight, fees, passport, meals, lodging, travel and etc are fully provided. my meetings with cooler has been scheduled on 11am Wednesday. i reach Canada early, Sunday, for some final preparations. this business will generate a USD10k net profit. on Tuesday night, after some boring meals which are hygienic, i decided to venture out some 'funny' food. gosh.... stomach ache, i got food poisoning. take some medicine and pray hard i will get well before the meeting. now, during my meeting with cooler, worst thing that could happen. nightmare. meeting with cooler is a disaster. cooler needs to take off to China in the Wednesday noon that day itself. business lost. i come back.
1. nevermind, "hey cooler, can i come back next year to resume the meeting?"
2. nevermind boss..... lost the business, not lost of life
3. nevermind, company still running and able to absorb my expenditure
4. nevermind, next year still can go there and negotiate again
5. nevermind, boss and colleagues still support me
6. nevermind, is just a small business, i can go Japan for better deal, hopefully....
having said, i do support Malaysia. i do support LCW as our representative. when it comes to negligence, silly mistake, play by own rules and poor dedication are just upsetting me. i dont mind if LCW loose to anyone. he can perform his best effort on his worse day. even if he woke up at the wrong side of bed, and tell me, today is not my day. my forehand shots are not used to be and the opponent grab this oppurtunity to win the match. i will be glad.....:)
err... sorry to cooler, just need an example. :D:p
pure postulation, very hard to get infected with our bland foods. We have fulltime city food inspector/police, plus we have an office to take in complaint, very hard to find a restaurant or take out here that are not hygenic to the law. I myself still have no vaccine shot ever other than for chicken pox in my early teen. I'm still ok even with all the influx of indian and asian restaurants over here.
back in 2002, i was vacationing in guangdong (canton, china) for 4 weeks. Being ignorant, never took any shots. I ate in high end restaurants, side street eateries, and street vendors. I didnt had upset stomach problem maybe except i find formal restaurants foods were too greasy. I take extra effort to eat at street vendors, cheaper and actually tasted better. Maybe i was lucky.
drifit
03-28-2009, 03:58 AM
that means, i missed out something.
MAS badminton group doctor is sleeping on his duty.
eaglehelang
03-28-2009, 04:00 AM
a lot doesnt total immune. ;)
.........
having said, i do support Malaysia. i do support LCW as our representative. when it comes to negligence, silly mistake, play by own rules and poor dedication are just upsetting me. i dont mind if LCW loose to anyone. he can perform his best effort on his worse day. even if he woke up at the wrong side of bed, and tell me, today is not my day. my forehand shots are not used to be and the opponent grab this oppurtunity to win the match. i will be glad.....:)
err... sorry to cooler, just need an example. :D:p
PG break his toe at home (?), cannot play in Swiss SS, nobody complain it's careless & make a new thread? :rolleyes: As posted quite many times already for past 1.5 years, if Msian player cannot, other country one, never mind.
LOL, for the underlined part, you know very well what will happen if LCW EVER said that. From Sports Minister to NSC Director to media & everything else will come down on him. You dont mind mah, the decision makers mind, after so many media reports & them making noise in the past, you all still dont get it.:p:p
Well, I can also put example that refute that if I want - the careful one decided to stay in supposedly safe hotel and eat, so happen that day the food not fresh, got food poisoning. The "negligient" ones went to eat at nearby coffee shop, no food poisoning.
The above is partly from personal experience also, like I posted bf, somehow the careful ones often are the ones kena - they say cos 'weak stomach' ;);)
So, as some already suggested, no need kan cheong, if really curious to know, when LCW come back Msia, go ask him, hehe.
Oh yes, just saw cooler's post, & I agree with 2nd paragraph. My own experience with food poisoning was with established restaurants but that time I ate alone, no comparisions lor. Having friends who work in hotel's restaurants, I sorta know why.;)
Coffee shops, Roadside stalls never gave me stomach upsets, in Msia or Indonesia maybe cos I'm a "roadside stall" eagle.:D:D:D
Pemuda
03-28-2009, 04:41 AM
i totally agree, i'm very confident u guys weren't acting, u are all 100% naturalle:p,,, That's what worries us tho:p
hahahahahaha :D
Yeah man, I am really worried for them all. ;)
Pemuda
03-28-2009, 04:43 AM
yep, this thread exploded and you should read post by post and read all your favorite mas boleh thingy subject here;) unfortunately no tallest flagpole and biggest roti canai so far, just taxpayers money:D.
Again, the above bold sentence is just like u flip flop it become roti bom or whatever roti over there:o;)
if an offside goal is considered illegal to you, oh, gosh..
Please provide the proof?
Pemuda
03-28-2009, 04:52 AM
LCW lost, period. But it is amazing to see the food poisoning etc etc etc being bandied about. Is it hard or impossible for boleh fans to admit that Chen Long played better badminton that day??
And some are even whingeing about this thread :o. When LCW beat LD in the SO, there were no whingeings or moanings regarding that LCW Whitewashed LD thread ... I guess when it comes to LCW winning it is ok for 'happy' LCW threads. But when LCW is beaten I see even PG's broken toe will be thrown into the pot by boleh fans :eek: What has PG's toe gotta do with LCW's defeat in the India Open???
Have some class. When you win, celebrate. But when you lose, dont take it bitterly.
What's LCW's next tournament? I hope he wins or else another natural disaster will be thrown in!
epaphroditus
03-28-2009, 10:07 AM
PG break his toe at home (?), cannot play in Swiss SS, nobody complain it's careless & make a new thread? :rolleyes: As posted quite many times already for past 1.5 years, if Msian player cannot, other country one, never mind.
LOL, for the underlined part, you know very well what will happen if LCW EVER said that. From Sports Minister to NSC Director to media & everything else will come down on him. You dont mind mah, the decision makers mind, after so many media reports & them making noise in the past, you all still dont get it.:p:p
Well, I can also put example that refute that if I want - the careful one decided to stay in supposedly safe hotel and eat, so happen that day the food not fresh, got food poisoning. The "negligient" ones went to eat at nearby coffee shop, no food poisoning.
The above is partly from personal experience also, like I posted bf, somehow the careful ones often are the ones kena - they say cos 'weak stomach' ;);)
So, as some already suggested, no need kan cheong, if really curious to know, when LCW come back Msia, go ask him, hehe.
Oh yes, just saw cooler's post, & I agree with 2nd paragraph. My own experience with food poisoning was with established restaurants but that time I ate alone, no comparisions lor. Having friends who work in hotel's restaurants, I sorta know why.;)
Coffee shops, Roadside stalls never gave me stomach upsets, in Msia or Indonesia maybe cos I'm a "roadside stall" eagle.:D:D:D
You are a "Tough Eagle" :D I agreed with your coffee shop /road side food theory. When you are regularly expose to those food, you immune system becomes stronger & could adapt to it. However, if you have never or seldom or very cautious about eating those food, you immune system can't handle the "poison". It has been always true whenever I go back to Malaysia (no offense) unless I stay out from coffee shop or roadside food, but that is impossible when the craving comes........:D
cooler
03-28-2009, 01:11 PM
Oh yes, just saw cooler's post, & I agree with 2nd paragraph. My own experience with food poisoning was with established restaurants but that time I ate alone, no comparisions lor. Having friends who work in hotel's restaurants, I sorta know why.;)
Coffee shops, Roadside stalls never gave me stomach upsets, in Msia or Indonesia maybe cos I'm a "roadside stall" eagle.:D:D:D
hahahaha, eagle eating roadside kill, very natural indeed:D:p:cool:
for me, the best way to taste the culture is trying out their roadside hawkers.
epaphroditus
03-28-2009, 08:27 PM
More speculation....this one quoted from The Star online:
Chong Wei’s Indian episode gives BAM much to chew on
COMMENT BY RAJES PAUL
WORLD No. 1 men’s singles shuttler Lee Chong Wei thought his first round exit in the Indian Open would be met with sympathy.
But it also drew flak.
But his excuse has only led to many unanswered questions. Where was the team chaperone? Why did he eat outside food in the first place?
Usually, the Badminton Association of Malaysia (BAM) have a chaperone to look after their players. Unfortunately, the team to India was not accompanied by a team manager.
It seems that none of the state badminton presidents was available for the “holiday” trip.
There would have been a long queue for the team manager’s post if the destination had been somewhere in Europe.
Left without much choice, the BAM felt that national coaches Teh Seu Bok and Rosman Razak would be able to juggle their coaching duties with managing and ensuring that the players have enough rest and eat proper meals.
Obviously, the duo had their plates full, leading to this unfortunate event.
Or was it simply a case of the duo not being authoritative enough in getting their message across to the players.
It has been ages since the BAM planned to hire a full-time manager to manage the players.
The idea was to have a professional to look into every aspect of the athletes’ preparation during tournaments, including ensuring proper meal intake at the proper time.
But all that has only been empty talk.
The BAM, however, should not take all the blame.
After all, the 27-year-old Chong Wei is not a rookie player.
As a seasoned traveller and professional player he should know better than to eat outside food, especially so in India.
And hasn’t this mantra been drummed into the heads of the elite and back-up athletes by the sports scientists from the National Sports Institute (NSI)? The Indian Open may have been just a Grand Prix gold tournament and Chong Wei may have felt obliged to go because of his sponsors.
But still, it is a responsibility of the player — especially one as esteemed as Chong Wei — to take nothing for granted.
One just hopes that the food poisoning episode is not a mere excuse to explain the rare first round defeat after his sensational win over China’s Lin Dan in the Swiss Open final just a week earlier.
One thing is for sure — a lesson has been learnt the painful way.
Chong Wei will have to be extremely careful when he makes his way to the same place in August in a bid to become the country’s first world champion.
BAM too will have to leave no stones unturned in the team’s preparation for the World Championships from Aug 6-10. And that, for now, is enough for them to chew on.
Athelete1234
03-28-2009, 08:47 PM
Whatever...LCW lost...and getting food poisoning definately made him play worse (I'd like to see anybody refute this idea). And when he played worse, he lost.
I think there is no need to worry about LCW's next trip to Gouwali(?) anymore. He has now been given a natural dosage of food poisoning which will fortify his immune system.
He should jolly well take advantage of this and enjoy all the delicious Hyderabad hawker fare available. Unfortunately his teammates could only sit and stare while he is enjoying his food. Maybe WMC could join him as she is similarly immuned, I think. Maybe abedeng and avataar can also join him too. :D:):p
koo_fan
03-28-2009, 10:55 PM
It should be done long ago.But better late than never
abedeng
03-28-2009, 11:57 PM
As I mentioned to avataar and davey last night, all this talk about food poisoning after having lost the match smacks of undisciplined conduct on LCW's end. Yes, he's still World No 1 and I do support him, but he lost, fair and square to a better player on the day. Just admit defeat and move on.
The alleged food poisoning story (alleged because I don't know how true it really is, plus avataar and davey were there and gave eye-witness accounts when LCW played Chen Long) should not have been brought on to Malaysian press because we all know how unforgiving the press can be. As expected, this had worked on most Malaysian supporters including BC forummers.
As it is, LCW did not exercise proper judgement and it cost him dear, and proper judgement must be done both out of court and in court.
Besides, I have never seen a player in ill health whack an opponent 21-7 in the first game, and keep the scores very close in the next two games.
eaglehelang
03-29-2009, 01:44 AM
I think there is no need to worry about LCW's next trip to Gouwali(?) anymore. He has now been given a natural dosage of food poisoning which will fortify his immune system.
He should jolly well take advantage of this and enjoy all the delicious Hyderabad hawker fare available. Unfortunately his teammates could only sit and stare while he is enjoying his food. Maybe WMC could join him as she is similarly immuned, I think. Maybe abedeng and avataar can also join him too. :D:):p
LOL, uncle Loh, you're in jolly mood these 2 days. Enjoy Indian food? Maybe not, LCW doesnt want more visits to the toilet. .;)
X Ball
03-29-2009, 03:41 AM
As I mentioned to avataar and davey last night, all this talk about food poisoning after having lost the match smacks of undisciplined conduct on LCW's end. Yes, he's still World No 1 and I do support him, but he lost, fair and square to a better player on the day. Just admit defeat and move on.
The alleged food poisoning story (alleged because I don't know how true it really is, plus avataar and davey were there and gave eye-witness accounts when LCW played Chen Long) should not have been brought on to Malaysian press because we all know how unforgiving the press can be. As expected, this had worked on most Malaysian supporters including BC forummers.
As it is, LCW did not exercise proper judgement and it cost him dear, and proper judgement must be done both out of court and in court.
Besides, I have never seen a player in ill health whack an opponent 21-7 in the first game, and keep the scores very close in the next two games.
I think he would have admitted defeat if he was not sick. He told it as it was. I cannot imagine LCW made this up. The body can react revulsively when it is not in the best of condition - if he wasn't as fit as he was, he would have felt sick in the 1st game. Think you cannot make such statement as you did as you are not a doctor.
pjswift
03-29-2009, 09:42 AM
As I mentioned to avataar and davey last night, all this talk about food poisoning after having lost the match smacks of undisciplined conduct on LCW's end. Yes, he's still World No 1 and I do support him, but he lost, fair and square to a better player on the day. Just admit defeat and move on.
The alleged food poisoning story (alleged because I don't know how true it really is, plus avataar and davey were there and gave eye-witness accounts when LCW played Chen Long) should not have been brought on to Malaysian press because we all know how unforgiving the press can be. As expected, this had worked on most Malaysian supporters including BC forummers.
As it is, LCW did not exercise proper judgement and it cost him dear, and proper judgement must be done both out of court and in court.
Besides, I have never seen a player in ill health whack an opponent 21-7 in the first game, and keep the scores very close in the next two games.
What LCW should have done after an unexpected loss is to behave like LD and not talk to the press at all. But he's too obliging.
What's obvious is that CL specially trained for LCW but not for HH ,that's such a disappointment with his loss after his exhilirating win.Logically it's hard to understand how CL can defeat LCW but lose to HH who just played 'cool'.
But LCW is not just a player. He's a WR1, whether in ill health or under emotional duress, his decent opponents still have to work 3 games to win(Susilo in SO,BP in ABC)
joelabb
03-29-2009, 11:05 AM
What LCW should have done after an unexpected loss is to behave like LD and not talk to the press at all. But he's too obliging.
What's obvious is that CL specially trained for LCW but not for HH ,that's such a disappointment with his loss after his exhilirating win.Logically it's hard to understand how CL can defeat LCW but lose to HH who just played 'cool'.
But LCW is not just a player. He's a WR1, whether in ill health or under emotional duress, his decent opponents still have to work 3 games to win(Susilo in SO,BP in ABC)
They already met few times in short time so CL already know LCW game just like PG in KSS.
Pemuda
03-29-2009, 08:08 PM
More speculation....this one quoted from The Star online:
Chong Wei’s Indian episode gives BAM much to chew on
COMMENT BY RAJES PAUL
WORLD No. 1 men’s singles shuttler Lee Chong Wei thought his first round exit in the Indian Open would be met with sympathy.
But it also drew flak.
But his excuse has only led to many unanswered questions. Where was the team chaperone? Why did he eat outside food in the first place?
Usually, the Badminton Association of Malaysia (BAM) have a chaperone to look after their players. Unfortunately, the team to India was not accompanied by a team manager.
It seems that none of the state badminton presidents was available for the “holiday” trip.
There would have been a long queue for the team manager’s post if the destination had been somewhere in Europe.
Left without much choice, the BAM felt that national coaches Teh Seu Bok and Rosman Razak would be able to juggle their coaching duties with managing and ensuring that the players have enough rest and eat proper meals.
Obviously, the duo had their plates full, leading to this unfortunate event.
Or was it simply a case of the duo not being authoritative enough in getting their message across to the players.
It has been ages since the BAM planned to hire a full-time manager to manage the players.
The idea was to have a professional to look into every aspect of the athletes’ preparation during tournaments, including ensuring proper meal intake at the proper time.
But all that has only been empty talk.
The BAM, however, should not take all the blame.
After all, the 27-year-old Chong Wei is not a rookie player.
As a seasoned traveller and professional player he should know better than to eat outside food, especially so in India.
And hasn’t this mantra been drummed into the heads of the elite and back-up athletes by the sports scientists from the National Sports Institute (NSI)? The Indian Open may have been just a Grand Prix gold tournament and Chong Wei may have felt obliged to go because of his sponsors.
But still, it is a responsibility of the player — especially one as esteemed as Chong Wei — to take nothing for granted.
One just hopes that the food poisoning episode is not a mere excuse to explain the rare first round defeat after his sensational win over China’s Lin Dan in the Swiss Open final just a week earlier.
One thing is for sure — a lesson has been learnt the painful way.
Chong Wei will have to be extremely careful when he makes his way to the same place in August in a bid to become the country’s first world champion.
BAM too will have to leave no stones unturned in the team’s preparation for the World Championships from Aug 6-10. And that, for now, is enough for them to chew on.
I say kudos to Rajes Paul! She was spot on!
How are we going to win the big titles when our shuttlers are undisciplined and our officials unprofessional?
limsy
03-29-2009, 08:19 PM
I say kudos to Rajes Paul! She was spot on!
How are we going to win the big titles when our shuttlers are undisciplined and our officials unprofessional?
yes...thats why WE need u to take control....:)...
badMania
03-29-2009, 08:29 PM
As an INA fan, I am happy that Lee Chong Wei did not enter the Final.
Thanks to him, it was Chen Long who entered the SF. The second person to thank will be Yoyo Hafiz. He beat Andre in the QF, but reedemed himself by beating Chen Long in the next round, which ensured that Taufik will not face LCW's conqueror :D
limsy
03-29-2009, 08:32 PM
which ensured that Taufik will not face LCW's conqueror :D
nah.....lcw never conquer except in malaysia....;)...remember????he is jaguh kampung according to someone...
jasonmarc
03-29-2009, 08:36 PM
As an INA fan, I am happy that Lee Chong Wei did not enter the Final.
Thanks to him, it was Chen Long who entered the SF. The second person to thank will be Yoyo Hafiz. He beat Andre in the QF, but reedemed himself by beating Chen Long in the next round, which ensured that Taufik will not face LCW's conqueror :D
Yes, TH have won, congratulation. But this victory can be sweeter if he face LCW in Final............and won over LCW......
danielwong
03-29-2009, 08:39 PM
After India Open SF i wanna conclude that Mr. Yo yo is better than LCW
Reason??? Coz Yo yo beat Chen Long....so HH is better than LCW
:D:D:D:D:D
limsy
03-29-2009, 08:41 PM
After India Open SF i wanna conclude that Mr. Yo yo is better than LCW
Reason??? Coz Yo yo beat Chen Long....so HH is better than LCW
:D:D:D:D:D
oh....brother....hafiz is always better than lcw....since 2003...because....hafiz have a title call:ALL ENGLAND...;)
thats is a MAJOR TITLE tat lcw never had...;)
Pemuda
03-29-2009, 08:43 PM
yes...thats why WE need u to take control....:)...
Thanks for the confidence but no thanks. I am no administrator and I enjoy my life as is now.
Thank you anyway.
george@chongwei
03-30-2009, 12:30 AM
LOL, If they really kan cheong & so.... "concerned" to know, when LCW and/or other players arrive at KLIA, wait for them there and ask lor. Then can ask direct - 'when must take risk', why this & that. :p
yep, maybe they are 'too kan chiong' already. hmm, actually did they waited at the airport last night to ask the players about this and that especially about this food poisoning thingy?:rolleyes::confused: quite curios though since they so kan chiong.
maybe abedeng can tell us which members did turn up.:p
george@chongwei
03-30-2009, 12:34 AM
Please provide the proof?
OMG, what's that the 'above bold sentences':(?
george@chongwei
03-30-2009, 12:37 AM
for westerners, even me, i was advised to get all the shots (vaccine) before visiting SE aisa. Some SE asian here who were raised in SE asia, have told me they dont need to because they have body resistant built in from years living there already. So, why do people like in MAS, INA for example, travelling to india needed extra precaution over what are normal hygenic practices?? I thot have lot of built in immunity of tropical bugs already
u? westerners?:p i doubt it:D
george@chongwei
03-30-2009, 12:40 AM
They already met few times in short time so CL already know LCW game just like PG in KSS.
LOL:D
lmao:p.....
Pemuda
03-30-2009, 01:44 AM
OMG, what's that the 'above bold sentences':(?
I think I will end here as things are getting meaningless when you cant tell the difference. No wonder you have the record number of postings in this forum.
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