Ciputra Hanoi Vietnam International Challenge 2009, 21st to 26th April

[anfan2000]

now, re-live on http://www.vtc.com.vn/ on http://www.vtc.com.vn/images/logo_htv1.gifchannel

[anfan2000]

game 3: WIJAYA Hendra/LI Yujia http://www.vietnambadminton.com/forum/images/smiles/SIN.gif - http://www.vietnambadminton.com/forum/images/smiles/INA.gif AHMAD Tontowi/DILI Richi Puspita: 11-9

[george@chongwei]

wow, so exciting;)

[anfan2000]

WIJAYA Hendra/LI Yujia http://www.vietnambadminton.com/forum/images/smiles/SIN.gif - http://www.vietnambadminton.com/forum/images/smiles/INA.gif AHMAD Tontowi/DILI Richi Puspita: 23-25, 21-17, 18-21

[badMania]

YES! First all-INA Final!

[huangkwokhau]

Tantowi Richi won...YES!!

[setia84]

Yes Final All Ina Xd.

[huangkwokhau]

hopefully we will have 2 strong future XD.....

[setia84]

NEXT...WS ....
TAERATTANACHAI Sapsiree (THA) Vs CHRISTINA Maria Elfira (INA) INTANON Ratchanok (THA) Vs KUSUMASTUTI Maria Febe(INA)

[robin7]

Can u guys watch on-live with those links?

[anfan2000]

WS game 1
INTANON Ratchanok http://www.vietnambadminton.com/forum/images/smiles/THA.gif - http://www.vietnambadminton.com/forum/images/smiles/INA.gif KUSUMASTUTI Maria Febe: 11-9

[huangkwokhau]

Can u guys watch on-live with those links?
yes...very slow..interupted...still playing XD now....gotta leave soon

[anfan2000]

WS1: CHRISTINA Maria Elfira won TAERATTANACHAI Sapsiree.

[badMania]

Can Febe beat the talented young Thai girl?

[anfan2000]

Ratchanok beat Febe 22-20 on game 1

[limsy]

hope ratchanok can enter final:D
go!

[robin7]

Ratchanok beat Febe 22-20 on game 1
This 14-year-old really has something...

WS1: CHRISTINA Maria Elfira won TAERATTANACHAI Sapsiree.
Btw, what's the scores?

[badMania]

Ratchanok is lively and looking good enough for a title.

[badMania]

The Thai girl leads 8-5.

[badMania]

Ratchanok is caught off-guard...6-8.
Shot couldn't pass the net...7-8.
Another wide return...8-8.

[anfan2000]

Robin, I haven't score for this match. I only receipt from sms Elfira won Sapsiree 2-0

[badMania]

Febe service error. 8-9.
Another nice placement by Febe. 9-9.
This time, placement by Ratchanok. 10-9.
Out return by Ratchanok. 10-10.
Ditto. 11-10 to Febe.
Interval set 2.

[limsy]

This 14-year-old really has something...



Ratchanok is lively and looking good enough for a title.

she might not the thailand number 2 in term of ranking,but porntip always lost to her:cool:
i think she can surpass salakjit this year:)

[badMania]

The Thai girl made a number of unforced errors in set 2. But she's looking good for a junior. Expect her to make an impact in the WJC.

[robin7]

It's okay, anfan2000.

Wow, WS2 is still tight...

[anfan2000]

I just have result game1 SFMS 1
SONODA Keigo http://www.vietnambadminton.com/forum/images/smiles/JPN.gif - http://www.vietnambadminton.com/forum/images/smiles/INA.gif RUMBAKA Dyonisius Hayom : 14-21

[badMania]

Nice placement by Febe, 12-10.
Wide return by Febe, 12-11.
Out return by Ratchanok, 14-11
Netting by Febe, 14-12.

[badMania]

Out return by Febe, 14-13.
Netting by Ratchanok, 15-13.
Yet again, 16-13.
Net return by Febe, 16-14.

[robin7]

she might not the thailand number 2 in term of ranking,but porntip always lost to her:cool:
i think she can surpass salakjit this year:)
She reminds of Mia Audina. Mia beat Zhang Ning and scored the winning point for INA in UC finals when she was 14.

[badMania]

Nice return by Febe, 17-14.
Net return for the nth time by Ratchanok, 18-14.
Yet again, 19-14.
Good interception in front of the net, 19-15.

[anfan2000]

INTANON Ratchanok http://www.vietnambadminton.com/forum/images/smiles/THA.gif - http://www.vietnambadminton.com/forum/images/smiles/INA.gif KUSUMASTUTI Maria Febe : 22-20,22-20
The girl Thai won gril Indo when Febe have sec point for game 2

[robin7]

Febe should take the 2nd game.

I meant "should have taken"! :p

[limsy]

She reminds of Mia Audina. Mia beat Zhang Ning and scored the winning point for INA in UC finals when she was 14.

she want to qualify for next og
represent thailand
in 2012(mean she is just 17)
big ambition and great future:cool:

[badMania]

Quick return by Febe, 20-15.
Good placement by Ratchanok, 20-16.
Good return yet again, 20-17.
3 consecutive returns, 20-18.
Yet again by Ratchanok, 20-19. Danger for Febe.
Ratchanok equalized...20-20.

[robin7]

INTANON Ratchanok http://www.vietnambadminton.com/forum/images/smiles/THA.gif - http://www.vietnambadminton.com/forum/images/smiles/INA.gif KUSUMASTUTI Maria Febe : 22-20,22-20
The girl Thai won gril Indo when Febe have sec point for game 2
:eek::eek: So fast!! :eek::eek:

[badMania]

Match pt for Ratchanok 21-20.
She killed off Febe with a nice return, 22-20.
Unbelievable, Febe wasted 5 match pts at 20-15 :(

[anfan2000]

SONODA Keigo http://www.vietnambadminton.com/forum/images/smiles/JPN.gif - http://www.vietnambadminton.com/forum/images/smiles/INA.gif RUMBAKA Dyonisius Hayom : 14-21, 10-21

[limsy]

a title here will be a great present for her and her boy friend when they meet next week:p(in smilling fish thailand ic):D

hope sonia can beat her next week:cool:

[badMania]

That's the 3rd INA girl Ratchanok Intanon eliminated en-route to the Final. She will face Maria Elfira Christina tomorrow. Can Fira avenge the loss of 3 team-mates to the Thai girl?

[badMania]

SONODA Keigo http://www.vietnambadminton.com/forum/images/smiles/JPN.gif - http://www.vietnambadminton.com/forum/images/smiles/INA.gif RUMBAKA Dyonisius Hayom : 14-21, 10-21

As expected. Hayom will probably face Nguyen Tien-Minh in the Final tomorrow.

[robin7]

Match pt for Ratchanok 21-20.
She killed off Febe with a nice return, 22-20.
Unbelievable, Febe wasted 5 match pts at 20-15 :(
7 straight pts from Ratchanok from 15-20 down to 22-20?

Btw, it's 5 game pts squandered by Febe.

[badMania]

Btw, it's 5 game pts squandered by Febe.

Thanks for the correction. Written in a haste. 5 set-pts wasted.

[anfan2000]

NGUYEN Tien Minh http://www.vietnambadminton.com/forum/images/smiles/VIE.gif - http://www.vietnambadminton.com/forum/images/smiles/MAS.gif CHAN Kwong Beng : 18-13 on game 1

[robin7]

As expected. Hayom will probably face Nguyen Tien-Minh in the Final tomorrow.
Not guaranteed yet.

That's the 3rd INA girl Ratchanok Intanon eliminated en-route to the Final. She will face Maria Elfira Christina tomorrow. Can Fira avenge the loss of 3 team-mates to the Thai girl?
Very likely Fira will be the 4th!
Isn't Febe supposed to be better than Fira?

[anfan2000]

NGUYEN Tien Minh http://www.vietnambadminton.com/forum/images/smiles/VIE.gif - http://www.vietnambadminton.com/forum/images/smiles/MAS.gif CHAN Kwong Beng :21-14 on game 1

[limsy]

Very likely Fira will be the 4th!
Isn't Febe supposed to be better than Fira?

ratchanok game didnt have any obvious weakness,so it is harder for ina coach to find a solution to beat her

[lim'zzz]

how about the men double result???

[badMania]

how about the men double result???

Be patient....that will be the last 2 matches of the day. We are not even into WD yet in the show court.

[badMania]

ratchanok game didnt have any obvious weakness,so it is harder for ina coach to find a solution to beat her

I noticed that she made a number of unforced errors in front of the net which allow Febe to get to set-pt.

[lim'zzz]

Be patient....that will be the last 2 matches of the day. We are not even into WD yet in the show court.


owww...thanks kk for the ans^.^

[anfan2000]

NGUYEN Tien Minh http://www.vietnambadminton.com/forum/images/smiles/VIE.gif - http://www.vietnambadminton.com/forum/images/smiles/MAS.gif CHAN Kwong Beng : 6-11 on game2

[lim'zzz]

btw kk,where you can see the other one match??now i only can see tien minh vs CKB.

[limsy]

I noticed that she made a number of unforced errors in front of the net which allow Febe to get to set-pt.

yes,but that is because her skill(cross court net shot) not good enough.
if she didnt choose to do the ccns,should be no problem
her skill not stable enough.
really looking forward when sonia play against her next week in 2nd round:D

[setia84]

WD How news?........................

[badMania]

IMHO if Chan Kwong Beng can beat Nguyen Tien-Minh, the better since it's probably easier for Hayom to be the champion ;)

The same thing happened to Andrew Smith right? Hayom was supposed to meet him in the QF, but, the top-seed got eliminated in R16. That just made life just easier for Hayom :)

[badMania]

WD How news?........................

INA is guaranteed to be in the Final for WD. What more do u expect?

[anfan2000]

NGUYEN Tien Minh http://www.vietnambadminton.com/forum/images/smiles/VIE.gif - http://www.vietnambadminton.com/forum/images/smiles/MAS.gif CHAN Kwong Beng : 14-21 on game2

[lim'zzz]

IMHO if Chan Kwong Beng can beat Nguyen Tien-Minh, the better since it's probably easier for Hayom to be the champion ;)

The same thing happened to Andrew Smith right? Hayom was supposed to meet him in the QF, but, the top-seed got eliminated in R16. That just made life just easier for Hayom :)

we can't said that,cause if CKB can beat tien minh it means CKB is better than TM,we can see for the beijing OG,Maria KY,she beat tine R,but it not means Lu lan more easier bet Maria KY than tine R,is it right?

[robin7]

IMHO if Chan Kwong Beng can beat Nguyen Tien-Minh, the better since it's probably easier for Hayom to be the champion ;)

The same thing happened to Andrew Smith right? Hayom was supposed to meet him in the QF, but, the top-seed got eliminated in R16. That just made life just easier for Hayom :)
Biased minds can't think objectively?

As far as Kwong Beng is concerned, it doesn't matter if he can't beat Hayom in the finals but going into the finals is a breakthru that the youngster needs.

That said, Hayom will probably choose Kwong Beng over Tien Minh if given a choice.

[limsy]

well,i dont think hayom is better than ckb:rolleyes:

[anfan2000]

15-8 for NGUYEN

[jasonmarc]

well,i dont think hayom is better than ckb:rolleyes:

Hayom is in the final already,...CKB still fighting...better than Hayom or not...have to win this SF first....:rolleyes:...then only got chance to prove....;)..

[lim'zzz]

well,i dont think hayom is better than ckb:rolleyes:

how you can said that?

[limsy]

Hayom is in the final already,...CKB still fighting...better than Hayom or not...have to win this SF first....:rolleyes:...then only got chance to prove....;)..

:rolleyes:


how you can said that?

just see how much can hayom score in final

anyway,reaching semis already something great for ckb,by beaten pk in quater

[robin7]

well,i dont think hayom is better than ckb:rolleyes:
What to do if people are so biased? :rolleyes: As I said before, biased minds can't think objectively.:o Someone predicted that there would be all-XXX SF in WS. See what happened now? I'll be ROFL if none of their singles wins the title.

[badMania]

Dionysius Hayom Rumbaka is still 20 this year, going on 21 this coming October.

Being in the Final of an Int Challenge event also represents his best achievement so far and the 3600 pts won will be the highest he has so far in his short career, which should propel him to the top 71-75.

I will not expect him to beat the much more superior Nguyen Tien-Minh, but, if he can do so, it will be a huge added bonus for him. He has won a National Circuit and an Int Series title this year. Another Int Challenge title will boost his career and hopefully will push him to the top 50 at least by end of this year.

[jasonmarc]

:rolleyes:



just see how much can hayom score in final

anyway,reaching semis already something great for ckb,by beaten pk in quater

CKB is not a junior anymore,...he is 20/21, right..?

How old is Hayom,....?

And Limsy....U always have very low expectation to ur back up player even though they play in statelite tournaments....its not healthy i think..! ;)

[anfan2000]

NGUYEN Tien Minh http://www.vietnambadminton.com/forum/images/smiles/VIE.gif - http://www.vietnambadminton.com/forum/images/smiles/MAS.gif CHAN Kwong Beng : 21-14,14-21,21-14

update result MD : Takeshi/Takuma (JNP) beat KURNIAWAN Fernando/LIE Lingga (INA) : 1-0 on games 1

[lim'zzz]

:rolleyes:



just see how much can hayom score in final

anyway,reaching semis already something great for ckb,by beaten pk in quater

what do u means with "just see how much can hayom score in final"?are u sure that CKB can reach final???
i hope that tien minh reach final...so we can see more spectacular game in final.

[limsy]

CKB is not a junior anymore,...he is 20/21, right..?

How old is Hayom,....?

And Limsy....U always have very low expectation to ur back up player even though they play in statelite tournaments....its not healthy i think..! ;)

:rolleyes:
tell me,without checking the result,which player can u remember that hayom beat here?
and do u know who had pk(ckb quater final opponent)beat recently?:rolleyes:

[limsy]

what do u means with "just see how much can hayom score in final"?are u sure that CKB can reach final???
i hope that tien minh reach final...so we can see more spectacular game in final.

i mean,just see how many can hayom score againt nguyen in final;)
ckb score 49;)

[gerrard778]

how about WD match?? any result?

[robin7]

update result MD : Takeshi/Takuma (JNP) beat KURNIAWAN Fernando/LIE Lingga (INA) : 1-0 on games 1
Looks like Ratchanok beating Febe is the only upset so far...

[lim'zzz]

:rolleyes:
tell me,without checking the result,which player can u remember that hayom beat here?
and do u know who had pk(ckb quater final opponent)beat recently?:rolleyes:
hayom the same group with andrew smith,at this tournaments seeded number 1,but he can reach the final.but even though CKB can beat PK but he can't reach the final,is it right?

[jasonmarc]

:rolleyes:
tell me,without checking the result,which player can u remember that hayom beat here?
and do u know who had pk(ckb quater final opponent)beat recently?:rolleyes:

Yes, that TPE player who beaten AS....is a good player, Hayom managed to beat him.

[badMania]

Predictions are always very subjective (based on individual's knowledge of the players and his/her own judgment). Nevertheless, we try to be as objective as possible.

If we are biased, we will predict that INA players will win EVERY TIME. Yet, I have predicted against INA players/pairs (including Rijal/Fran's loss to the Thai pair, Wifqi/Afiat's loss to the SIN pair) . I am glad that the INA players can prove me wrong with their good showing. So much for biased predictions eh ;)

Based on rankings and experience, no doubt the 4 INA WS players are ahead of the Thai girls, which is why even though Ratchanok beat Lindaweni in R16, I still predicted that the more experienced Aprilia and subsequently Febe will beat her. No doubt, I will still predict that Maria Elfira Christina will beat Ratchanok in the Final tomorrow :cool:

I guess ppl here can judge if that's considered biased predictions. LOL.

Even if all the 4 players lost to Ratchanok Intanon, I guess we are still fine with that because we are guaranteed one title in XD and possibly a couple more :D

[limsy]

hayom the same group with andrew smith,at this tournaments seeded number 1,but he can reach the final.but even though CKB can beat PK but he can't reach the final,is it right?

do he meet andrew smith?:eek:


Yes, that TPE player who beaten AS....is a good player, Hayom managed to beat him.

u cant even name his name?:rolleyes:
pk beat hong ji hoon and NGUYEN TIEN MINH in suwon;)

[badMania]

PB Djarum started to send Hayom to Int Tourneys last year. So I believe Chan Kwong Beng should have more int experience than him.

His results include:
SF at GGJP Indonesia Challenge 2008
R16 of Dutch and Bulgaria GP 2008 -- losing to Chetan Anand and Rajiv Ouseph 19-21 in the rubber-set.
R16 of Vietnam Open GP 2008 -- losing to Nguyen Tien-Minh 26-28, 16-21.

So, I will say a decent record for a player that just started his international badminton career. Even Tommy Sugiarto has yet to win a title until now :cool:

Well, I never expect that Hayom will progress to the Final. I believe his coach also only set a SF target for him. So, a Final placing itself is a bonus for Hayom. A win will be....a minor miracle I should say...but not impossible given the closeness of the scores of the previous match against Nguyen Tien-Minh also in Vietnam.

[gerrard778]

why there's no result update from WD and MD??

[badMania]

I heard that Edo/Lingga manage to push the Japanese pair to rubber-set.

Pia Bernadet Zebadiah/Debby Susanto beat their team-mates. So, Pia in 2 Finals tomorrow.

[lim'zzz]

do he meet andrew smith?:eek:



u cant even name his name?:rolleyes:
pk beat hong ji hoon and NGUYEN TIEN MINH in suwon;)

even though he didn't meet andrew smith,but he can beat HYH who had beat andrew smith,HYH can beat andrew smith it means he better than andrew smith.and now Hayom reach to the final in this game,but CKB can't!it means Hayom is better than CKB!

[gerrard778]

I heard that Edo/Lingga manage to push the Japanese pair to rubber-set.

Pia Bernadet Zebadiah/Debby Susanto beat their team-mates. So, Pia in 2 Finals tomorrow.


how's the score?? any update??

[badMania]

Sigh...Fernando Kurniawan/Lingga Lie lost to the Japanese pair Takeshi Kamura/Takuma Euda 19-21 in the rubber-set :mad: Let's see whether Wifqi/Afiat can reach the Final.

So, 1 XD title, 3 other representatives in MS, WS, and WD Finals and 1 more undecided for Team INA.

[limsy]

even though he didn't meet andrew smith,but he can beat HYH who had beat andrew smith,HYH can beat andrew smith it means he better than andrew smith.and now Hayom reach to the final in this game,but CKB can't!it means Hayom is better than CKB!

i see,chen long beat lcw in india mean cl better than lcw. and hafiz beat cl mean he is better than cl and lcw:eek:
is that ur theory?:cool:
ok then.

p/s:hyh didnt play in this tournament,is hhy

[gerrard778]

Sigh...Fernando Kurniawan/Lingga Lie lost to the Japanese pair Takeshi Kamura/Takuma Euda 19-21 in the rubber-set :mad: Let's see whether Wifqi/Afiat can reach the Final.

So, 1 XD title, 3 other representatives in MS, WS, and WD Finals and 1 more undecided for Team INA.

INA players in Final:
XD : Fran/Pia Tantowi/Richi
MS : Hayom
WD :??
WS :??

[hartono]

even though he didn't meet andrew smith,but he can beat HYH who had beat andrew smith,HYH can beat andrew smith it means he better than andrew smith.and now Hayom reach to the final in this game,but CKB can't!it means Hayom is better than CKB!


It doesn't matter. The fact is Hayom will be in the final and CKB won't, and we are happy enough with the fact :D.

[KlasseE]

i see,chen long beat lcw in india mean cl better than lcw. and hafiz beat cl mean he is better than cl and lcw:eek:
is that ur theory?:cool:
ok then.

p/s:hyh didnt play in this tournament,is hhy
alright man, argue for what? :cool::)
limsy and lim'zzz, your brother? ;)
lim'zzz means sleepy limsy?:D:D:D:D:D:)

[robin7]

alright man, argue for what? :cool::)
limsy and lim'zzz, your brother? ;)
lim'zzz means sleepy limsy?:D:D:D:D:D:)
Haha... U really brighten my gloomy day...:D

[lim'zzz]

i see,chen long beat lcw in india mean cl better than lcw. and hafiz beat cl mean he is better than cl and lcw:eek:
is that ur theory?:cool:
ok then.

p/s:hyh didnt play in this tournament,is hhy

my theory only in one tournament,not to be continue,cause 1 player performance not always constant,in 1 tournament maybe she/he who had upper world rank can lose with lower rank player.
it depends on their performance and their health condition,in this tournament i think AS performance is not to good,so he can lose with HHY,and Hayom in this tournament he make a good performance so he can reach the final,but CKB can't reach the final in this game,so it means in this tournament Hayom is better than CKB!
in india LCW maybe have a poor performance so he can lose,and in india i can said that Hafiz better than LCW,cause he can reach more better result than LCW.but in next tournament,don't know.must see their performance.

[badMania]

Comments from team manager on Hayom's performance:
"Hayom played well today, beating the Japanese player in straight-sets. His shot-making ability is getting more complete and can start to control the front court. He is also more matured in terms of his thoughts and attitude during the match."

As for Febe's loss to Ratchanok:
"The Thai girl is very good for a 14-yo in terms of her power as well as having good control ability."

[robin7]

Sigh...Fernando Kurniawan/Lingga Lie lost to the Japanese pair Takeshi Kamura/Takuma Euda 19-21 in the rubber-set :mad:
R u :eek: or :(?

At least I'm not. In fact, the scorelines are quite respectable. We can never underestimate JPN players.

[lim'zzz]

INA players in Final:
XD : Fran/Pia Tantowi/Richi
MS : Hayom
WD :??
WS :??

for WS:maria elfira
for WD:pia &debby

[gerrard778]

what about the other INA MD?? are they progress to final to face JPN MD?

[limsy]

my theory only in one tournament,not to be continue,cause 1 player performance not always constant,in 1 tournament maybe she/he who had upper world rank can lose with lower rank player.
it depends on their performance and their health condition,in this tournament i think AS performance is not to good,so he can lose with HHY,and Hayom in this tournament he make a good performance so he can reach the final,but CKB can't reach the final in this game,so it means in this tournament Hayom is better than CKB!
in india LCW maybe have a poor performance so he can lose,and in india i can said that Hafiz better than LCW,cause he can reach more better result than LCW.but in next tournament,don't know.must see their performance.

ur concept is simple,but,reach a few round further in a tournament doesnt mean a better than b. many things need to take in count,luck of draw is one of them. anyway,case closed as u didnt get what i mean.


As for Febe's loss to Ratchanok:
"The Thai girl is very good for a 14-yo in terms of her power as well as having good control ability."

badmania,u think she can be another saina?:D

[Sandy]

watching how she played, remind me Mia Audina when 14 y.o.

[badMania]

badmania,u think she can be another saina?:D

Honestly, today was the first time I watched her play and I have to say I am very impressed with her as a 14yo badminton player.

Having said that, I am not surprised either if she can beat Maria Elfira Christina tomorrow, making it 4 out of 4 INA girls being eliminated.

[limsy]

watching how she played, remind me Mia Audina when 14 y.o.


Honestly, today was the first time I watched her play and I have to say I am very impressed with her as a 14yo badminton player.

Having said that, I am not surprised either if she can beat Maria Elfira Christina tomorrow, making it 4 out of 4 INA girls being eliminated.

and yet,she very humble:)
really hope she can enter 2012 og
her dream.:D

[lim'zzz]

btw,how md result?who is the winner ina or mas?

[badMania]

watching how she played, remind me Mia Audina when 14 y.o.

Agreed....she will be better than Salakjit or Febe or Fira in the future. IMHO, INA needs to blood the youngsters like Ana Rovita, Febby Angguni and Lindaweni Fanetri.

[limsy]

Agreed....she will be better than Salakjit or Febe or Fira in the future. IMHO, INA needs to blood the youngsters like Ana Rovita, Febby Angguni and Lindaweni Fanetri.

erm,she tell me that the gap between her and salakjit is closer and closer now.
expect to surpass salakjit this year:)

[george@chongwei]

wow, this 14 year old girl enter the final?:eek:
umm, congrats to her.
just woke up koz very tired after back from badminton:p

[badMania]

R u :eek: or :(?

At least I'm not. In fact, the scorelines are quite respectable. We can never underestimate JPN players.

Edo/Lingga bear the target of having to win this tourney. So, I am sure Edo will be very disappointed with the result.

I personally expect Edo/Lingga to finish as runners-up behind Hendri/Hendra when the draw was made. That's why I commented in the earlier post before the tournament began that it will be hard for INA to win a title in MD. Hendri/Hendra's loss yesterday raised my expectation but to no avail :mad:

Japanese double pairs are certainly starting to rise up to the occassion with the emergence of young pairs like:
1. Kenta Kazuno/Kenichi Hayakawa -- I am sure nobody heard of this pair before this year, but they are now World No 16 :eek:
2. Naoki Kawamae/Shoji Sato -- Sato has been remarkable in MD so far, winning 3 tourneys earlier this year and now WR40.
3. Yoshiteru Hirobe/Hajime Komiyama -- WR59 and Winner of the Osaka Int Challenge 2009, beating Kazuno/Hayakawa in the SF.
4. Hirokatsu Hashimoto/Noriyasu Hirata -- WR72 and Runner-Up of the Osaka Int Challenge 2009.
...and now perhaps a no 5 with this new pairing of Takeshi Kamura/Takuma Euda?

Wifqi/Afiat also lost 19-21 in the rubber-set to Hong Chieng Hun/Chow Pak Chuu :mad: Well, no INA-Final for MD as well, in fact, both are eliminated much to the disappointment of INA fans :o

However, Wifqi/Afiat have exceeded my expectation of QF placement by surprisingly beating Hendri/Hendra yesterday.

[badMania]

Analysis on both INA MD's losses today by the team manager:
They lost not because of the burden of being the top 2 seeds. It's more due to the lack of judgement in terms of change of tactics (kurang perubahan taktik) in the middle of the game. Actually, the opponents were not that special after all (lawan dua2nya tidak istimewa sama sekali). (*before anyone shot me with "biased" words yet again, note that these were the words of the team manager, not me :rolleyes:).

[badMania]

So, no change from the status just now, 1 title in XD and 3 more Finals. No representatives in MD :mad:

1 more title will be welcomed...perhaps from WS or WD?

[limsy]

Wifqi/Afiat also lost 19-21 in the rubber-set to Hong Chieng Hun/Chow Pak Chuu :mad: Well, no INA-Final for MD as well, in fact, both are eliminated much to the disappointment of INA fans :o


cpc have quit bam last year end(december);)
being one of a few talented player,i really hope he can do well in future:o


So, no change from the status just now, 1 title in XD and 3 more Finals. No representatives in MD :mad:

1 more title will be welcomed...perhaps from WS or WD?

wd i think

[robin7]

Analysis on both INA MD's losses today by the team manager:
They lost not because of the burden of being the top 2 seeds. It's more due to the lack of judgement in terms of change of tactics (kurang perubahan taktik) in the middle of the game. Actually, the opponents were not that special after all (lawan dua2nya tidak istimewa sama sekali). (*before anyone shot me with "biased" words yet again, note that these were the words of the team manager, not me :rolleyes:).
With the NSS, MD is the most competitive discipline at this moment. I'm not surprised with the losses of INA as any pair can win over any pair at anytime.

Disappointment from the top 2 seeds are undrestandable as MD is INA's most confident event in this tourney. From my observations in the previous tourneys, Edo/Lingga are not stable yet. I'm not sure about Wifqi/Afiat.

[gerrard778]

anyone know who's the other WD finalist??

[badMania]

Disappointment from the top 2 seeds are undrestandable as MD is INA's most confident event in this tourney. From my observations in the previous tourneys, Edo/Lingga are not stable yet. I'm not sure about Wifqi/Afiat.

Except for Kido/Hendra, the rest of the MDs belong to the category of "not stable yet", with not much results to show for :cool: I personally don't think Edo/Lingga can rise to top 5. They might be a top 8-10 pair, but, I fear they may not become the best ones :cool: Well, that's just my own opinion.

From the upcoming pairs, Wifqi/Afiat are probably the most promising and I dare say they might surpass Edo/Lingga in the near future.

Below them, it will be Ulin/Berry.

[otaclub]

summary of today match result please...

[gerrard778]

Final line-up:

1.MS
RUMBAKA Dyonisius Hayom(INA) VS NGUYEN Tien Minh(VIE)

2.WS
CHRISTINA Maria Elfira (INA) VS INTANON Ratchanok (THA)

3.MD
KAMURA Takeshi------VS---HONG Chieng Hun
UEDA Takuma (JPN )-------CHOW Pak Chuu (MAS)

4.WD
MIYAUCHI Yui--------VS---BERNADET Pia Zebadiah
ITAGAKI Yuki(JPN)---------SUSANTO Debby(INA)

5.XD
TENG Fran Kurniawan------------VS---AHMAD Tontowi
BERNADET Pia Zebadiah (INA)-------DILI Richi Puspita (INA)

[otaclub]

thx for the report gerrard778 ^^

[jutawin]

Come on Indonesia..

[gerrard778]

anyone know what time the final start tmrw???

[ET!!!]

8h30 AM, local time (GMT+7)
You guys can watch the finals live at
http://www.vtc.com.vn/
click on this icon
http://www.vtc.com.vn/images/logo_htv1.gif

[PinkyPG]

there r some pics of matches but it s from Vietnamese forum, u all just see d pics if u want, d comments r Vietnamese one so that most of u cant understand... anw if u want, i ll can translate to u... hihi...

follow this link: http://vietnambadminton.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3475&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=570

1 news that i just knew is Andrew Smith maybe has to face with the purnishment from BWF for what he did...

[gerrard778]

what time the final start??? i think it's start at 2 not 08.30???

[Sandy]

Tantowi/Richi lead 11-4

[Sandy]

Tantowi/Richi lead 21-14 8-1

[Sandy]

Tantowi/Richi d Frans/Pia 21-14 21-8

[Jagdpanther]

Congrats for Towi/Richi. :D
They're so damn good or there's some kind of team order so that Pia can save her energy for WD, I dunno.
Their first int'l title, I presume?

[mcdreamy]

congrats to Tantowi/Richi. im watching it live now........
yaaaaayy!!!!

pia should take the WD title later........

[Sandy]

This event 1st International event for Tantowi/Richi
Actually Vietnam Open 2008 should be 1st event for them but any mistake in registry, the pair became Tantowi/Shendy and Tantowi/Shendy won it.

[badMania]

As expected, Akhmad Tantowi/Richi Puspita Dili won their first title as a pair. Well, Tantowi himself already won a bunch of titles with Yulianti, his former partner as well as Shendy Puspa Irawati, including 2 Vietnam Open GP titles. It's the change of partners that disrupt his progress in the past 2 years :mad:

I am pretty sure that Towi/Richi will be pushed to the first team very very soon and hopefully rising up to top 10 as Fran/Shendy did in 1-1.5 year time. As for Fran/Pia, good showing as well and I have confidence in them as well.

Get rid of Devin/Lita! Towi/Richi, Fran/Pia and hopefully a younger partner will be arranged for Butet. In that case, we have 3 pretty solid and young XD!

[badMania]

This event 1st International event for Tantowi/Richi
Actually Vietnam Open 2008 should be 1st event them but any mistake in registry, the pair became Tantowi/Shendy and Tantowi/Shendy won it.

What do you think of both pairs' performance? I can say I am pretty confident with Towi/Richi....but not that certain about Fran/Pia. I missed the live telecast and will be going off soon....:o

[Jagdpanther]

Next, Maria vs Thai whiz kid!

[gerrard778]

As expected, Akhmad Tantowi/Richi Puspita Dili won their first title as a pair. Well, Tantowi himself already won a bunch of titles with Yulianti, his former partner as well as Shendy Puspa Irawati, including 2 Vietnam Open GP titles. It's the change of partners that disrupt his progress in the past 2 years :mad:

I am pretty sure that Towi/Richi will be pushed to the first team very very soon and hopefully rising up to top 10 as Fran/Shendy did in 1-1.5 year time. As for Fran/Pia, good showing as well and I have confidence in them as well.

Get rid of Devin/Lita! Towi/Richi, Fran/Pia and hopefully a younger partner will be arranged for Butet. In that case, we have 3 pretty solid and young XD!


i thought rijal/debby still a good XD despite their lost yesterday, i thought they still a promising XD pair and not worse than the 2 XD who played in final...

[badMania]

i thought rijal/debby still a good XD despite their lost yesterday, i thought they still a promising XD pair and not worse than the 2 XD who played in final...

I would rate Rijal/Debby as below Towi/Richi and Fran/Pia. Mainly because of Debby's inexperience. We shall see....

[Sandy]

What do you think of both pairs' performance? I can say I am pretty confident with Towi/Richi....but not that certain about Fran/Pia. I missed the live telecast and will be going off soon....:o

Towi/Richi much better than Frans/Pia this time, Tantowi has big smash and Richi good in front side. Pia need adjust to play flat or lower return against the opponent with big smash.

[Jagdpanther]

Meanwhile, Maria trailing behind, 6-8.
The Thai girl has good repertoire of shots...

[gerrard778]

but she's the youngest girl, and i think she's gonna take a lot of experience from many tourney she will compete.. but, sory.. in my opinion the 3 INA XD pairs still equal and have chance to beat each other...

[Jagdpanther]

8-13. This is not good.
10-14.

[robin7]

For those who are watching, does the Thai young lady looks nervous a.t.m.?

[Jagdpanther]

Good, reversed! 15-14.

[Jagdpanther]

For those who are watching, does the Thai young lady looks nervous a.t.m.?
My first time I see her playing, so I dunno how her usual style,
But, no sign of nervous...

Again, Thai lady leading, 18-16.

[PinkyPG]

no sign of nervous... got smiles only... she play so good man....

[Jagdpanther]

Amazing return by Ratchanok, I thought it was in already.
Spectators applaud.

[robin7]

Good, reversed! 15-14.
Due to unforced errors from Thai gal or winners from Fira?

[Jagdpanther]

Spectators support Ratchanok.
Makes sense, she is their neighbor, after all. Hehe.

[robin7]

I hope someone records this match. I'm so curious abt this Thai gal.

[Jagdpanther]

Due to unforced errors from Thai gal or winners from Fira?
Er, sorry, can't remember. Short memory.:p

Ratchanok won 1st set, 21-18.

[PinkyPG]

21-18 for Thai gal

[Jagdpanther]

Thailand's future in singles looks very bright.
MS got Tanongsak, WS got Porntip and this lady.
And I believe they're not even 20 yo.

Dunno 'bout doubles.

[Jagdpanther]

4-3 for Thailand.
Djarum coaches look nervous...

[Jagdpanther]

10-8. Both players more aggressive now. That's how it looks like for me...
Break, 11-8.

[robin7]

Thailand's future in singles looks very bright.
MS got Tanongsak, WS got Porntip and this lady.
And I believe they're not even 20 yo.

Dunno 'bout doubles.
Something is very effective with their training I guess and talent is a plus of course.

[Jagdpanther]

The gap becomes even bigger, from 3 to 5. It's 14-9 now.

[Jagdpanther]

Maria is on the verge of losing, 16-10.

[Jagdpanther]

Almost over, 19-13.

[Jagdpanther]

That's it. 21-14. Congrats for this lady genius.
Thai coach smiling proudly.

R. Inthanon 2 - 0 Maria Elfira C.
21-18
21-14

[mcdreamy]

any further result??
somehow my livestream is stuck..........

[Jagdpanther]

Well, I can't provide live report due to the same problem... :p

[mcdreamy]

then it,s not iether our connection or hardware/software problem. maybe the server is overloaded. lol!!! haha..........

[Jagdpanther]

The message on the screen is:
Chuong Trinh Tam Thoi Gian Doan, Mong Quy Vi Thong Cam!

Anyone can translate? ;)

[PinkyPG]

that means: the show is temporarily interrupted

[PinkyPG]

21-14, 21-15 TM won

[gerrard778]

the next match should be WD or MD?

[Jagdpanther]

WD, and now it's showing the match.

Rubber set, it seems.
11-9 for INA. Go go go!

>>Thanks PinkyPG for translating.

[PinkyPG]

u r welcome... hihi

[Jagdpanther]

15-11. Common, seal the match!

[Jagdpanther]

19-15. 2 more points, please...
And they won, 21-15. Congrats for them! Yeah!

[setia84]

WD SCORE please

[george@chongwei]

wow, that 14 year old girl won the final??
wow! anyone can tell me whats she's good at? hows her style of play? jagd or anyone?

[etudiant]

can anyone put up the summary of the final 2day...

[lim'zzz]

where i can see the live score?

[etudiant]

just looked at the above post, anyway congratz to Pia Z Bernadet for her 1st title and one r-up in her 1st international tourney as a double plyr......

[limsy]

so ratchanok will celebrate with her boy friend next week whe they meet:D

will congrates her when we chat:D

the 1st step toward og 2012

[etudiant]

hey limsy, who's ratchanok's BF anyway....and u look so excited with her win 2day although she's not from ur home country....^_^

[reinata]

anybody know about ms final result?

[reinata]

hallo,anybody know?please!

[limsy]

hey limsy, who's ratchanok's BF anyway....and u look so excited with her win 2day although she's not from ur home country....^_^

i cant simply say out her private thing unless she agree to let others know.sorry.
all i can say is her bf is from mas,ms player:D
sure i am excited. my best friend outside malaysia:D(player i mean):p

[limsy]

anybody know about ms final result?


hallo,anybody know?please!


21-14, 21-15 TM won

nguyen tm won with this scoreline;)

[jutawin]

wow, that 14 year old girl won the final??
wow! anyone can tell me whats she's good at? hows her style of play? jagd or anyone?

14 years old? She remind of Mia Audina..
Mia Audina just 14 yo, when she beat Zhang Ning in Uber cup..

[george@chongwei]

so, local favourites, nguyen tien minh won too;)

[gerrard778]

is there anyone who got full results of final today??

[badMania]

So, Team INA won 2 titles in the Ciputra Hanoi Vietnam Int Challenge 2009, with victories from Akhmad Tantowi/Richi Puspita Dili and Pia Bernadet Zebadiah/Debby Susanto. Undoubtedly, this will lift up the spirits of Pelatnas, esp in WD and XD. It also proves that Pia's switch to doubles work out pretty well. I am pretty sure she's gonna win more titles as compared to slogging it out in the singles.

As for Team Djarum, they can be satisfied with 2 runners-up. Dionysius Hayom Rumbaka exceeded my expectation in reaching the Final, before inevitably bowing out to the local favorite and defending champion Nguyen Tien Minh.

If you have a player that can beat 4 of your players, then, it says something about him/her. Ratchanok Intanon is certainly a sensation and I believe this title will just be the start of a possible big future for her in badminton. However, the performance of the new Pelatnas member, Lindaweni Fanetri is certainly quite impressive as she crawled all the way from Qualifying. Fransiska Ratnasari can also treat this tourney as the start of her "new life" as a Djarum player. I believe that the QF placement will instill a renewed confidence in her career.

The only disappointment was the loss of 2 INA MD pairs in the SF yesterday :mad:

[Jagdpanther]

i cant simply say out her private thing unless she agree to let others know.sorry.
all i can say is her bf is from mas,ms player:D
sure i am excited. my best friend outside malaysia:D(player i mean):p
Still 14 yo, and already dating?!
This surprised me even more. :eek::rolleyes:

Well, if you can't elaborate more about her private life, why bother expose it from the beginning? :confused:
It's no different with gossiping, I believe.

[limsy]

Still 14 yo, and already dating?!
This surprised me even more. :eek::rolleyes:

Well, if you can't elaborate more about her private life, why bother expose it from the beginning? :confused:
It's no different with gossiping, I believe.

as long as i didnt say out the boy name,i dont think she will scold me about this.:rolleyes:
if u think this kind of post is no different with gossiping,fine then,i will stop GOSSIPING about any player.:rolleyes:

[robin7]

What the hell, we still haven't received any results from the last match MD yet!

[baldybodhi]

does anyone has complete results??
Specially for WD and MD..
Thanks

[gerrard778]

FINAL RESULT VIETNAM
http://www.vietnambadminton.com/events/VNC2009/

[robin7]

Finals Results

XD
AHMAD Tontowi / DILI Richi Puspita (INA) beat TENG Fran Kurniawan / BERNADET Pia Zebadiah (INA)
21/14 21/8 (20min)

WS
INTANON Ratchanok (THA) beat CHRISTINA Maria Elfira (INA)
21/18 21/14 (30min)

MS
NGUYEN Tien Minh (VIE) beat RUMBAKA Dyonisius Hayom (INA)
21/13 21/15 (40min)

WD
BERNADET Pia Zebadiah / SUSANTO Debby (INA) beat MIYAUCHI Yui / ITAGAKI Yuki (JPN)
21/17 17/21 21/15 (55min)

MD
KAMURA Takeshi / UEDA Takuma (JPN) beat HONG Chieng Hun / CHOW Pak Chuu (MAS)
21/14 21/14 (30min)

[jljy91]

WS
INTANON Ratchanok (THA) beat CHRISTINA Maria Elfira (INA)
21/18 21/14 (30min)

wow...this THA girl...
R-32 beating THAI Thi Hong Gam (VIE) 22-20 21-14
R-16 beating FANETRI Linda Weni (INA) 21-17 21-18
QF beating YUSWANDARI Aprilla (INA) 23-21 21-19
SF beating KUSUMASTUTI Maria Febe(INA) 22-20 22-20
F beating CHRISTINA Maria Elfira (INA) 21-18 21-14...

[nick.h]

how old is ahmad tontowi/richi?

[limsy]

WS
INTANON Ratchanok (THA) beat CHRISTINA Maria Elfira (INA)
21/18 21/14 (30min)

wow...this THA girl...
R-32 beating THAI Thi Hong Gam (VIE) 22-20 21-14
R-16 beating FANETRI Linda Weni (INA) 21-17 21-18
QF beating YUSWANDARI Aprilla (INA) 23-21 21-19
SF beating KUSUMASTUTI Maria Febe(INA) 22-20 22-20
F beating CHRISTINA Maria Elfira (INA) 21-18 21-14...

ya,really excited to see sonia vs her next week:D

[badMania]

how old is ahmad tontowi/richi?

It's TANTOWI, not Tontowi. Towi is 22 this coming July, while Richi should be 20 if I am not wrong.

[ctjcad]

...
Even Tommy Sugiarto has yet to win a title until now :cool:
...
..if not mistaken, Tommy has 2 titles safely secured in his back pocket..However, and unfortunately, they are not of the GP, GP Gold or SS variety..;)

As for the THA WS young sensation, Ratchanok I., she's one to keep an eye, or two eyes, on. However, expecting her to reach the 2012 OG might be a bit stretching it (let's see what she can do against other top WS players; not just juniors or 2nd, 3rd tiered players whom she beat).:cool:

[limsy]

As for the THA WS young sensation, Ratchanok I., she's one to keep an eye, or two eyes, on. However, expecting her to reach the 2012 OG might be a bit stretching it (let's see what she can do against other top WS players; not just juniors or 2nd, 3rd tiered players whom she beat).:cool:

her dream is to play with xxf and beat her:p
anyway,now,her major target is qualify for 2012 og
she is now training hard to beat salakjit:)

[ctjcad]

..when she (Ratchanok) does beat XXF..;):cool:

[jasonmarc]

This ratchnok can beat our Lydia cheah easily......i think....only 14 and already won title....how to compare our back up players with this young lady,...already won title while MAS still giving exscuses to their back up players when they lost...........haiz....

[limsy]

This ratchnok can beat our Lydia cheah easily......i think....only 14 and already won title....how to compare our back up players with this young lady,...already won title while MAS still giving exscuses to their back up players when they lost...........haiz....

haha,dont made me laugh:rolleyes:
do u know how she admire about lydia game?:rolleyes:
she so proudly say tat last year lydia is the winner and this year is her:rolleyes:

why compare alone mas with her,how about ina?korea and danes?
even badmania didnt complain or bla bla bla when ratchanok beat 4 of their ina ws player:rolleyes:

[george@chongwei]

whatever it is, i have a feeling that this thail girl is simply amazing;)
although i didnt have a chance to watch her play yet, the results tell us. obviously;)