Draw, Only draw - the most important!

[cxytdn]

According to World Team Ranking, CHN must be in Group1A, and MAS must be in Group1B. So if three teams out of CHN, INA, KOR and DEN are in Group1A, MAS will have a high chance to come into SF. Otherwise MAS will........

For Poland will not play this year, IND will play in Group2 according to World Team Ranking.

BUT if According to the results 2007, SWE will still play in Group2.

[jamesd20]

Why poland won't play this year?

[george@chongwei]

mas in group 1b?
hmm, does that mean mas are the 2nd seed in this tourney?;)

[jljy91]

Who Will Be The First and SECOND Seed In Surdiman?
Chn? Mas? Ina? Kor? or Den?

(baesd on 23rd april ranking)

[george@chongwei]

Who Will Be The First and SECOND Seed In Surdiman?
Chn? Mas? Ina? Kor? or Den?

(baesd on 23rd april ranking)
the 1st seed probably will goes to china.
while the rest we should just wait untill 23rd april;)

[Loh]

Why poland won't play this year?

Can Poland field a reasonably good mixed team to get higher in ranking?

Or is it pure economics? :confused:

[george@chongwei]

Can Poland field a reasonably good mixed team to get higher in ranking?

Or is it pure economics? :confused:
we have to ask rudy or someone there for more information then..

[hcpoirot]

If the seeds were based on ranking, it will be between China, Denmark and Malaysia who occupy first - third seed.

[jljy91]

If the seeds were based on ranking, it will be between China, Denmark and Malaysia who occupy first - third seed.


yes...it is based on the world ranking on 23rd April...

[cxytdn]

POLAND will play (34 teams this year).

[cxytdn]

The draw will be done in Guangzhou, on 25 Apr. 2009, Saturday.

[abedeng]

There has only been 5 nations who have reached at least the semifinals, they are China, Indonesia, Korea, England and Denmark. Malaysia is not among them.

Thus, if Malaysia is counted as having almost equal semifinals chance, then for each group, it is possible to have at least 3 group members having equal chance to the semifinals. Except China, semifinal spot or even the title looks certain for them.

[jasonmarc]

If the seeds were based on ranking, it will be between China, Denmark and Malaysia who occupy first - third seed.

Wow,..first ever seeded for Mas....musst be due to the improvement in Women players....;)

[abedeng]

Yup, a double edged sword, where we have fallen flat after being seeded countless times in team competitions.

[jljy91]

THE LATEST RANKING IS OUT ALREADY...
http://www.internationalbadminton.org/ranking.asp (http://www.internationalbadminton.org/ranking.asp)
waiting for the new WORLD TEAM RANKING...
THANKS...

[abedeng]

Based on the seeding report of 23rd April, Denmark and Indonesia are the top 2 seeds. China is only placed third.

[cxytdn]

This ridiculous Team Ranking System is just for MAS to avoid being with CHN in the seam Group, especially avoid MAS, CHN and KOR being in the same Group.

[abedeng]

This ridiculous Team Ranking System is just for MAS to avoid being with CHN in the seam Group, especially avoid MAS, CHN and KOR being in the same Group.

On the contrary, I don't see that it benefits Malaysia at all. Malaysia doesn't do well in mixed team competitions, in fact the only victory we ever had was the 2006 Commonwealth Games title.

[cxytdn]

If MAS, CHN and KOR are in the same group, MAS has no chance into SF, otherwise, MAS has a little chance into SF, and has a high chance when KOR in the other group where CHN is.

[badMania]

The best draw for INA will be to have MAS, ENG, and HKG. One thing for sure, INA is separated from CHN.

Which of the top two seeds will INA prefer? Tough choices.
DEN will be able to win the points from XD, MS, and WS.
MAS will be able to win the points from MS, MD, and either WS or WD.

I think I will still prefer having MAS in the group. INA needs to take XD and then battle it out in WS, MD, and WD for the 2 remaining points. As for DEN, INA needs to secure WD and MD and fight it out in MS, WS, and XD. Not easy.

MAS vs INA will be an interesting one to watch especially.

The worst is perhaps to have DEN, INA, KOR, and JPN. Even JPN can steal a point or two from INA.

[badadum]

The best draw for INA will be to have MAS, ENG, and HKG. One thing for sure, INA is separated from CHN.

Which of the top two seeds will INA prefer? Tough choices.
DEN will be able to win the points from XD, MS, and WS.
MAS will be able to win the points from MS, MD, and either WS or WD.

I think I will still prefer having MAS in the group. INA needs to take XD and then battle it out in WS, MD, and WD for the 2 remaining points. As for DEN, INA needs to secure WD and MD and fight it out in MS, WS, and XD. Not easy.

MAS vs INA will be an interesting one to watch especially.

The worst is perhaps to have DEN, INA, KOR, and JPN. Even JPN can steal a point or two from INA.

I'm pretty confident INA will be able to go past the Danes....Against the Koreans though...ungh, I don't think there's a single match that INA is a clear cut favorite. :o

[badMania]

Hmm...the assumptions in my previous post were wrong :mad:
DEN and INA are the top 2 seeds, so, they will be separated.
MAS and CHN are the 3-4 seeds.

It's written in Kompas that there's this rule abt groupings:
Group 1: 1, 4, 5, 8 (DEN, MAS, KOR, JPN)
Group 2: 2, 3, 6, 7 (INA, CHN, ENG, HKG)

Not sure if this is the actual grouping that will be used since the draw itself is conducted tomorrow.

[badadum]

So INA best best will be to have MAS, ENG & HKG in the same group. If that's the case, SF is almost secure (pending some catastrophic meltdown). :D



Hmm...the assumptions in my previous post were wrong :mad:
DEN and INA are the top 2 seeds, so, they will be separated.
MAS and CHN are the 3-4 seeds.

It's written in Kompas that there's this rule abt groupings:
Group 1: 1, 4, 5, 8 (DEN, MAS, KOR, JPN)
Group 2: 2, 3, 6, 7 (INA, CHN, ENG, HKG)

Not sure if this is the actual grouping that will be used since the draw itself is conducted tomorrow.

[hcyong]

Hmm...the assumptions in my previous post were wrong :mad:
DEN and INA are the top 2 seeds, so, they will be separated.
MAS and CHN are the 3-4 seeds.

It's written in Kompas that there's this rule abt groupings:
Group 1: 1, 4, 5, 8 (DEN, MAS, KOR, JPN)
Group 2: 2, 3, 6, 7 (INA, CHN, ENG, HKG)

Not sure if this is the actual grouping that will be used since the draw itself is conducted tomorrow.

If there is such rule, there would be no need for the draw. For MAS, best scenario is to avoid KOR and JPN. DEN & INA, both are equally difficult, so does not matter either way.