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chaijk
05-16-2009, 10:49 AM
I think Korean will win all the three doubles in the final.

koo_fan
05-16-2009, 10:52 AM
I think Korean will win all the three doubles in the final.
Come on.. Let's pray together.

george@chongwei
05-16-2009, 10:54 AM
I think Korean will win all the three doubles in the final.
u can proceed or post more about the FInal thread located here>> http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70420:)

ctjcad
05-16-2009, 10:55 AM
WOndering how they could not win at the Beijing Olympics

They played the Denmark MD pair in 1st round
..it's called "1st time OG jitters"...;)

...For the mixed doubles, I think Nova should retire and Butet should find a new partner. No question abt that.

For the men's doubles scratch pairing, it's Hendra Setiawan who was making more errors today. The first set was horrible to watch as the INA pair succumbed to the pace and power of the KOR pair. Hendra/Ahsan played well briefly, when they managed to take a 4 pts lead at 13-9. Since then, a combination of unforced errors and switch of tactics by KOR pair led to a turnaround and the INA pair lost narrowly 19-21.

I still think it's better for Kido/Hendra to split up, given the uncertainly lingering over Kido's knees (which is taking a long long time to heal) :cool: Hendra/Rendra (or if they want to stick to using Hendra/Ahsan) will be one option.
- Nova should've been replaced after the OG last yr, IMO.
- Concur on Hendra having a few lapses. Offensively, Ahsan is okay. Still needs to have a bit more variety in his game/shots, instead of simple bombs. Rotation will need to be improved.
- Concur that Hendra S. should just move on with Ahsan, considering Kido's knee injury will most likely linger & won't get any better..

INA team once again failed to book final ticket, lost to KOR like last year Thomas Cup. Hmm, seems champion target is too heavy for INA squad...KOR team showed brilliant performance and high confidence to advance into finale, congratz!
..erm, i guess Pak Djoko will bear the responsibility, eh??..;)..I think the INA team has reached their goal, as i didn't expect them to enter the Final Rd anyway..In 2 more yrs, these young players should be better prepared to play in the SC..

I think Korean will win all the three doubles in the final.
..that'll be a pretty tall order. At the same time, that'll be the only way if they're going to upset the CHN armada..

cheeyf
05-16-2009, 11:05 AM
With Chin partnering Ng Hui Lin in WD, I wonder if Chin will hold her temper against Ng. She was upset the last time they played together against Korea in the Uber Cup Finals.

I bet it won't get that far anyway.

ceh really was angry with NHL tat time?i didnt know that.hehe

hcpoirot
05-16-2009, 11:06 AM
Summary of Sudirman Cup Semifinal:
Ina Vs Kor
XD : Nova/Lilyana play okay but they can play better. The pressure of winning this point probably was too much for this pair and they lost.
MS: Thru three tight sets, Sonny barely win. He is playing quite good under pressure this time.
WS: Clealy Maria play below her form, and made tons of easy mistakes. HHY as usual play the solid defense skill.\
MD: When I saw the line up of Ina MD, I already know if Indonesia cannot win 3-0 against Korea, they will lost even if miracle happen and they can win this tie which didnot happen. JJS/LYd more solid than the suprise pair of Hendra/Ahsan.

With players that just recovered from injury and Markis was injured, Indonesia had done their best. But next time, probably be more realistic with their goal. Cause PBSI had said they want to win Sudirman Cup this year and we lost in Semifinal 3-1. We need another solid MD pair after Hendra/Markis. Or next year Thomas Cup , we also probably failed in semifinal or Quarter if we had bad draw.

hcpoirot
05-16-2009, 11:07 AM
China - Malaysia:

What can I said except China players did their job very well. Even when malaysia had the advantage to play their strongest matches MS and MD in match 2 and 3 to score some points, they fail to win even 1 point.

XD : At first , clearly HHb/ YY still try to adapt and trail 9-11 in interval.But they score 8-9 points in a row by targeting WPT more and made Fairuz try to covered her and made more mistakes instead. From that points on, China dominated the whole match. With some cheap points from China players, at least Mas pair had some decent scores in this match.

MS: LD clearly show his class as the MS best right now. Bot sets, he lead very far away from LCW with some amazing shot,. But as we all know both when he lead too far, LD tend to drift away and gave some easy points to his opponents. That make this match scores a bit close. But he manage to win in straight set. LCW play very well in first set but at the end made too many errors. Probably a bit frustated cause he simply cannot penetrate LD defense too many times in this match.

MD: CY/FHF play a very slow first set. They trail too far, managed to even the score but lost 19-21. At second set, they keep attacking and managed to win with comfortable lead. In third set, both pair pretty well. But at end of the set, FHF/CY kept making easy mistakes that make the Mas pair a chance to even the score to 20-20 and then 21-21. But the China pair managed to close the set and the whoel match 23-21.

China win 3-0. Mas should be proud to achieve the semifinal spot. But if they wanted to reach final or win this cup next time, they need to had better XD, WS and WD. Otherwise they will never win this cup by depending only from MS and MD.

ctjcad
05-16-2009, 11:21 AM
...For the mixed doubles, I think Nova should retire and Butet should find a new partner. No question abt that.
...

Summary of Sudirman Cup Semifinal:
Ina Vs Kor
XD : Nova/Lilyana play okay but they can play better. The pressure of winning this point probably was too much for this pair and they lost.
...
..XD, both Nova and Lilyana made quite a few errors; in some instances, they were even caught wrong-footed, standing still defenseless or in no-man's land..Was probably one of their worst performances..

...
MD: CY/FHF play a very slow first set. They trail too far, managed to even the score but lost 19-21. At second set, they keep attacking and managed to win with comfortable lead. In third set, both pair pretty well. But at end of the set, FHF/CY kept making easy mistakes that make the Mas pair a chance to even the score to 20-20 and then 21-21. But the China pair managed to close the set and the whoel match 23-21.
...
..from what i saw & recall, both pairs played equally well. Could've gone either way, esp. in the 3rd game. It's just a matter of the CHN pair staying poise and focused til the end.

cheeyf
05-16-2009, 11:35 AM
didnt watch today:(
how did wpt play?heard fairuz many mistake
shock to c ceh is in d list
i thought they will field wpt/nhl
maybe ceh injury not serius or maybe wpt too tired d
hmm really brave for them to put ceh in
what if d tie goes to 2-2 n ceh have to play? better to put wpt instead
haha
nway still proud we enter 1st semis
n just heard that SC gona change format
no more demotion n promotion
http://badzine.info/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1836:event-sudirman-cup-to-change-format&catid=61:newsflash&Itemid=76
so is better
got chance to see hkg oso
haha

betazone
05-16-2009, 11:48 AM
I was quite disappointed with LCW, just too many unforced errors . He would only stand a chance if he cut down on all those

jooku1
05-16-2009, 11:57 AM
You can see the difference in characters between Lin and Chong Wei. Lin's jumping around and yelling, and flexing and being an overall gloat, while Chong Wei is kind and humble.

God I hate Lin.

Well having said that, I guess you didn't catch the CCTV5 interview with Lin Dan after the match. He was asked about both his and LCW's performance and he did offer that both were playing at the same level today. Acc to him, he (LD) won only due to the home support.
That was quite gracious from him.
I'm a Malaysian supporter btw.

Oldhand
05-16-2009, 12:30 PM
didnt watch today:(
how did wpt play?heard fairuz many mistake
shock to c ceh is in d list
i thought they will field wpt/nhl
maybe ceh injury not serius or maybe wpt too tired d
hmm really brave for them to put ceh in
what if d tie goes to 2-2 n ceh have to play? better to put wpt instead
haha
nway still proud we enter 1st semis
n just heard that SC gona change format
no more demotion n promotion
http://badzine.info/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1836:event-sudirman-cup-to-change-format&catid=61:newsflash&Itemid=76
so is better
got chance to see hkg oso
haha
Wong Pei Tty played a terrible game - both at the net and in defence.
What was Fairuz to do when his partner couldn't kill even sitters? :o

You can get the video from this thread (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70421).

vanilla.
05-16-2009, 06:58 PM
Well having said that, I guess you didn't catch the CCTV5 interview with Lin Dan after the match. He was asked about both his and LCW's performance and he did offer that both were playing at the same level today. Acc to him, he (LD) won only due to the home support.
That was quite gracious from him.
I'm a Malaysian supporter btw.

But Lin is like this ALL the time.

No i didn't see the post game interview.

LeeCW
05-16-2009, 08:17 PM
Just wonder when KKK will be more mature and LCW start to play offensive games!:(

sonnymak
05-16-2009, 08:59 PM
As far as i am concern, KKK shouldnt change neither should LCW change his game.

in fact playing the way he did was the best way to counter LD all he need to do is less mistakes. It is not easy to play LD by attacking more and it would not have change the game any bit.

you have to look at the game carefully and you will find t LD was caught out of position many times but because he was faster he was able to recover to his position to play shots, But LCW have been able to make LD not playing his favourite shots.

Their game has reached a high level that one think it to be boring but their game have matured like a game of chess, each trying to outmaneuvre the other with feigns and delayed play to the net. If LCW had smash his way, he would have made more mistakes.

eaglehelang
05-17-2009, 03:08 AM
But Lin is like this ALL the time.

No i didn't see the post game interview.

Post match interview for all matches, Team China.
http://thestaronline.tv/default.aspx?vid=3429

jooku1
05-17-2009, 03:16 AM
As far as i am concern, KKK shouldnt change neither should LCW change his game.

in fact playing the way he did was the best way to counter LD all he need to do is less mistakes. It is not easy to play LD by attacking more and it would not have change the game any bit.

you have to look at the game carefully and you will find t LD was caught out of position many times but because he was faster he was able to recover to his position to play shots, But LCW have been able to make LD not playing his favourite shots.

Their game has reached a high level that one think it to be boring but their game have matured like a game of chess, each trying to outmaneuvre the other with feigns and delayed play to the net. If LCW had smash his way, he would have made more mistakes.

Yes, as was clearly evident yesterday, LD was struggling when LCW started to rally him. LD gets frustrated and then makes mistakes. Unfortunately LCW just made more. So, like u said LCW should maintain his way of playing (esp against LD) and just cut down on mistakes. I guess the vociferous home support does get to you somehow.

scherzando
05-17-2009, 10:50 AM
Well having said that, I guess you didn't catch the CCTV5 interview with Lin Dan after the match. He was asked about both his and LCW's performance and he did offer that both were playing at the same level today. Acc to him, he (LD) won only due to the home support.
That was quite gracious from him.
I'm a Malaysian supporter btw.

Aaaw.. wasn't that out of character? ;)

zqloy
05-17-2009, 05:42 PM
i have to say that in terms of talent, KKK/TBH has lots of it. TBH's smash while not speed record breaking, have just as much sting, pace and angle as FHF. in fact, much more refined and nice to watch. KKK ability to read shots at the front also match CY. add to that their defense is simple magically control and precise.

China however, won by their higher focus and hardwork.

Im more impress with TBH's play yesterday, shows that he is more of an all rounder then FHF. Btw, I wonder if TBH pairing with LYD, will this be the perfect MD? :rolleyes:

sweetlover
05-17-2009, 10:24 PM
Im more impress with TBH's play yesterday, shows that he is more of an all rounder then FHF. Btw, I wonder if TBH pairing with LYD, will this be the perfect MD? :rolleyes:
good idea...i wonder too...:D