first, i thought the passive and defenisive style of park sung hwan would be a solution against lin dan...but now..

Park did beat Lin Dan in Guangzhou 2 years ago, in the China Open. Which brought our attention to "patriotic line judges".

PSH tried backhand smash LD. LD hits it to the ground and says, "you don't qualify"

dive again....... ops.. is my Li Ning racket scratch?

For the umpteenth time, LD sends one down to an empty court, unchallenged..LD 16-10..
Park answers with a nice x-court slice shot, sending LD bellying..LD 16-11..

PSH big crosscourt drop. LD dives to net and missed.

PSH tried to move LD around.

LD is like energizer bunny, just keep attacking which PSH isn't able to keep up.

Lin Dan should win this quite comfortably, just a matter of how long he wants to stay courtside.

LD has vastly better relative court coverage than PSH.

PSH's shot variation and surprise is limited.

LD has vastly better relative court coverage than PSH.

PSH's shot variation and surprise is limited.
..is that an understatement??..:p

PSH is trying to create his offense by playing more net-shots, but to no avail..LD at game pt 20-14..And LD finishes off the game with another unchallenged x-court smash from his backhand side..21-14..

LD take first game rather comfortably 21-14.

China pretty much have the SC in the bag already.

PSH absolutely pummelled in the first set 21-14

not a godo start for PSH. he hits air on a simple lift/drive.

i think LD has caught his rhythm. it will be a bloodbath in the 2nd.

clever flick by lin dan.. LD lead 6-4 now

For those interested, RTM 1 is showing live NOW, LD vs PSH.
I think this should be until the tie is over, until medal presentation, since Msia is 1st time winning a medal in SC.

bloodbath? cooool! lin dan is in superb form 2day

PSH footwork is not very good.

excellent long rally with PSH losing a bit patience and hit it out the sideline.

10-8

First time Park ever got to the lead.

Here comes the crucial moment, can Park sustain when Lin Dan push to the next gear? Credit to Park able to keep the game 2 close and making Lin Dan running around.

You can really see Lin Dan's sweaty shirt from here, it doesn't seem to absorb sweat.

LD leads 13-12... dat was long, PSH's smash, i nearly thot it was in..hahha

even the commentator is commenting on LD's shirt.. they seriously have to change the team's shirt in d future..

Wrong decision from Park although he was in control of that rally.

PSH roars people :)

yup2, PSH seems to make quite alot of mistakes 2day

Commendable effort from Park, not letting go.

PSH does a good job anyways in chasing after LD.. i can see this whole thing being drag to the 30th point.. :)

so far the game hasn't been exciting...if it goes to rubber game, then maybe..
...
Actually, if you think about it, this is the best order for Korea... if the MD match is put in #4 or #5 before the WS match, Korea might have lost the entire finals already.

So, even though it may look like LYD doesn't have much(any) time to rest, this is still the best order of play for team Korea(other than putting WS at the end), unless people prefer to give LHJ no resting time instead which to me doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
- It's the best order for KOR to perhaps gain a pt & avoid a sweep..If LYD plays MD last, then there's no WS afterward..
- LHJ and LYD will get more resting time if they play either of the last 2 slots..
I'm on the bus with the Korean team, the officials just smiled at me when I asked on the chances against Zheng Bo/Yu Yang.
..
..do you speak Korean??..maybe they don't understand & just smiled??..:confused:;)
good morning ladies and gentlemen.

i snoozed for nearly 15mins. and i have a 1 min snooze alarm. can you imagine how many times i snoozed?????
where is madbad/ctjcad? ;)
..i hit the snooze button like 7 or 8 times..thank goodness it didn't stop working..
should really just let YY handle the back. she has higher % success!
Koreans make the wrong choice of attacking YY in the last rally, and China forces rubber.
..playing against CHN in XD is almost like playing against a MD pair. Yu Yang's smash is almost if not equal to that of Zheng Bo..

LinDan trying to stave off a resilient PSH..In the lead, 17-16..Great, quick over the head smash by PSH caught LinDan by surprise, all tied @ 17 a piece..

Big pts come in and LD steps up the tempo.

matchpoint for LD baby!

another point to Chn team
Chn 2 : 0 Kor

yeay for LD !!! :) :)

that's the way to play for PSH, rallying and then taking advantage of his height for the down the line smash, LD at match pt 20-18..LD forces one to PSH's backhand side and Park can't return the shuttle..CHN on the brink of another sweep and keeping the Sudirman Cup..

Pretty simple match for Lin Dan.

Now everyone stood up and I can't see the court.

whats next eh?????????????

fu haifeng will trash super dae!! fabulous fu!!

And the scourge of Korea continues hahahaha!!!
:D:D Go Go Go CY/FHF!!!!

Hope LYD wont lost both points..............

MD is up next, let's see if the KORs can salvage a pt..

i cant take my eyes off fu haifeng's shoes people...

Abang Din, U been to all tournament....so lucky u, enjoy ur self....!

if Korea took Mix Double, I am sure that Yog Dae will take Men Double as well. But, since mix Double lose, then 3-0 for China. That's it

love those smashes by fu...absolutely stunning!

Lee Dong Soo and partner rubs their chin and cheek as LYD fires the opening salvo..Cai Yun with an aggressive play at the net...CHN 2-1..

Park put up a pretty good fight even though he lost which we expected. I think Park still has a lot of room to improve and I am not sure why is it taking so long for him to develop into a better player under Li Mao? In my opinion, to beat Lin Dan, you have to attack him just like Chen Hong did in the All England else you're at the mercy of Lin Dan's un-force error to gain points, not a good formula to win.
Credit to Lin Dan, even though he's at the top of everything, still showing improvement in many areas which was not in his arsenal few years ago like net play, long rally ... Hard to imagine I say this, the Olympic Champion and World Champion is reaching a new height, he's just unbeatable!

I admire what Lin Dan has achieved in badminton but I don't like his dominance in the game. His dominance in badminton is even longer than Roger Federer's dominance in tennis which is a pity and insult to other players and coaches involved in the game who had spent millions if you think about it. It also proved that talent of a player is more important than coaching provided and Lin Dan is such a talent that cannot be found elsewhere at this moment.

CHN pair more aggressive of the 2..CHN in the lead 6-3..Error from Cai, 6-4..JJS smashes into net, 7-4..KORs trying to gain their rhythm, but Yong Dae can't fend one off..Another long lift, CHN 10-5..

LYD hasn't recovered and makes a few errors. At this rate China could win the cup without dropping a single match.

I believe Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun just lost a couple of times only so far in their matches to Jung Jae Sung/Lee Yong Dae, that included the Thomas Cup FINAL 2008. Look's like they are going to extend their DOMINANCE over the KOR pair ;)

KORs on the defensive, Yong Dae getting beat at the net..CHN ahead 11-5 @ the interval..

chn leads 12-9.... yesterday's game was more entertaining (kkk-tbh vs cai-fu)

what a wonderful life!
Downloading INA vs KOR, Watching KOR vs CHN and reading BC forum all on a peaceful Sunday morning.:)

Abang Din, U been to all tournament....so lucky u, enjoy ur self....!

Nothing to do with luck. Everything to do with commitment, spare time and the necessary investment.

Luck only happens when everything, flight, accommodation, tickets, phone roaming charges are provided free of charge.

Kor closing up d gap, 11-13 now

cai-fu maintaining d gap, 14-12 now

kwun has continue his sleep?
CY/FHF are in fierce!

China looking unstoppable at 16-13

Relentless attacks from CHN, this time JJS gets the brunt of it..CHN 17-14..
CHN on cruise control, not letting up, 19-14..

game point already for cai-fu

1st game to CY/FHF

Koreans not in-form, easy finish by Chinese. I always wonder why Korean pairs have trouble with China when they can beat more technical Malaysian and Indonesian pairs.

The Chinese aren't Technical?
I think that the hometown advantage is definitely at play here too.

CHN so far has the better shot selections, attacks and defense..Cai & Fu sealed 1st game, 1 game away from defending their Sudirman Cup for another 2 yrs..

Koreans not in-form, easy finish by Chinese. I always wonder why Korean pairs have trouble with China when they can beat more technical Malaysian and Indonesian pairs.

This is what you called compatibility:cool:

Baseline call disputed by Koreans, very close. And as expected they lost concentration and lost 2 more pts.

cai-fu shud stick to d first set's pace or d koreans might catch up, they are capable enough and we all know

I haven't seen any net returns off of a serve from the KORs..If there were, they are definitely far few & in between..LHJ manages a smile on the camera, CHN with a 5-2 lead..
3 quick pts from the KORs, 5 a piece..Make that 6-5 KORs..

great catch-ups by the koreans

KORs now starting to pick up their game...KORs 7-5..
Cai pounces on a loose return, KORs 7-6..
JJS finally gets an easy one off the net, 8-6..
JJS netted one, 8-7...8 a piece..

Koreans not in-form, easy finish by Chinese. I always wonder why Korean pairs have trouble with China when they can beat more technical Malaysian and Indonesian pairs.

Just like Kido/Hendra having the knack of beating Fu/Cai quite comfortably over the past several encounters in the past 2 years and several combinations of Fu and Cai with the younger partners, but finding it hard to beat Jung/Lee or Koo/Tan :o

Lin Dan has just returned from shower.

cai-fu better catch up, we dont want rubber

the speed is amazing, i wish i am with d crowd!! cant wait for aviva open!!!

back levelled at 10.. yeay for cai-fu :)

I see one trait from Fu. Whenever Fu is at the back & the KORs move the shuttle around, left and right, Fu will do a drop shot to set up a weak lift. He'll then pounce on it..CHN with a close 12-11 lead...Cai has been sharp today..

A few careless errors give Koreans a sniff of hope.

KORs in the lead 15-12 trying to force a rubber game..Fu bangs one to the net, 16-12..Back to back net errors from the KORs, 16-14..

ctjcad,
I think the chinese secret is that they have springs in their shoes! Wow they are moving well. (score notwithstanding

cai-fu better catch up, we dont want rubber
I do.. ;). Finish it up, Korea. fight for the rubber game.

Cai Yun scrambling to clear the shuttle to no avail, Koreans back in the lead.

Cai goes from east to west and wipes the floor clean with his short, thank goodness it's black...KORs 18-17..
LYD with a loose return kill...KORs 19-17..
Another forced error from Fu..KORs on game pt..
LYD high-fives JJS as they force a rubber game..Still a hope for the KORs to get a pt in this tie..

Uncharacteristic errors from China and we will go the full distance.

Korea would not win! Li Yong Bo still has WD and Ws!!!!

Crumbcakes! A rubber and I have to go to work.:crying: Enjoy it boys and girls!:)

Looks like the Koreans want to steal a point from China, not wanting to make it too easy for them.

with 50% capacity(LYD), Korean pair still able to take the 2nd game, solid MD team

First significant break to Koreans.

Korea has done bloody well to have reached the final. LYD is playing his second match now, outstanding fitness and courage. A big salute to the Korea team.

Li Yong Bo would know that MD is the weakest part in the Team...

Korea would not win! Li Yong Bo still has WD and Ws!!!!
..at least we want to see WYH play...;)
with 50% capacity(LYD), Korean pair still able to take the 2nd game, solid MD team
..it's arguably their strongest event of the 3 doubles..:cool:

KORs in the lead, 8-6..And JJS netted an unforced error..KORs 8-7..

FHF looks like charged up!

China wins 7 of the last 8 pts and take a 3 pt advantage and changeover.

Fu/Cai are leading 11-8 at the interval of the rubber-set. Yet, the KOR pair is always capable of winning this set and the pt.

CHN in the lead after Fu's aggressive play..11-8..Fu sends one wide, CHN 11-9..
Fu fails to hit the shuttle over..all knotted at 11 a piece..Make that 12-11 KORs after a long clear..
JJS & LYD screams after forcing Cai with a wide return..KORs 13-11..

JJs sends a military response and Koreans retake the lead with 6 straight pts.

Long lift by LYD lands in, on the line, KORs 14-11..
CHN get it back, Fu with a sign behind his back..JJS sent stretching, KORs 14-13..
LYD finally shows who's the boss at the net after JJS mimic a KKK style defense..KORs 15-13..JJS on fire, pounding it strong, KORs 16-13..

Li Yong Bo would know that MD is the weakest part in the Team...

Of course LYB knows that. But Korea doesnt want to make it a whitewash of 0-3.;) And we might get to see WYH & madbad's cutie play.:)

A sitting JJS saved that rally.

Cy/fhf 15 : 16 ..........

wow this js can do the kkk trick as well. ;)

pressure for china to win. ;)

JJS dives like a goalkeeper but can't save the shuttle.

one hand on the Sudirman Cup

LYD dominates at the front..A nice little rally ends with an excellent placement by Fu...Lee Dong Soo and partner get up and can't believe the call..KORs 18-17...Great quick little exchange, all tied at 18 a piece..

can soeone plz post the score like every 20 sec or so?
holy crap all the live streaming isn't working on my comp
and it's psising me off

Next rally determines matchpt, and it's for China.

This ending is eerily similar to the ending of the XD match..CHN in the lead 19-18..

match point to CY/FHF

JJS ties up the score with a thunderous x-court over the head smash..19 all..

CHN holds the Sudirman Cup again...!
congrats

19 all. Hurry up CY/FHF! I' am sleepy!

And China wins the cup without dropping a match. What a great achievement.

Racket clash by the KORs and 1 pt away for the CHN...match pt..
Game set match...Cai and Fu celebrate...Cai and Fu being good sportsmen go over to pat LYD and JJS..Fu sends a kiss to the sky...

Congrats CHN for retaining the trophy, again..

CHN 3 : 0 KOR

great games, great matches!

Chn:kor 19:18:d

Ha! I have said as soon as CHN beating MAS 3:0 that they will beat KOR 3:0. But some people here opposed the idea immediately saying it is very much depening on the events layout. So what the final score is for those that think it wouldn't be 3:0? The point is, it DOES NOT matter whether doule events or single event is out first CHN eill clean sweep 5:0 if all 5 games are needed.

the game is played just meters away from my home but I am watching it on tvants ;-)

So ctjcad, still think it is not 3:0 scoreline? ;)

Crazy ! China won without dropping a match !

Viva Beijing!!! Maybe Jakarta, Kuala Lumpur or Seoul next!!

CHN wins the Sudirman Cup yet again after beating KOR 3-0. Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun beat Jung Jae Sung/Lee Yong Dae in 3-sets: 21-14, 17-21, 21-19 to seal the final pt needed to retain the trophy in front of the home-crowd.

Cai Yun celebrates before the shuttlecock lands......! :D

21:19 the end! game over

Congratulation China. I was sad it ended just after 22 pages.

WOW, LYD lost both of his matches!:eek::eek:

Crazy ! China won without dropping a match !
ALL China in Sudirman Cup, too. haish..

WHITEWASH by CHINA!!!!!!!! super super super stuff...
Utter domination!

China comes out of this tournament UNDEFEATED!!!
Whitewashed all who opposed!

WOW, LYD lost both of his matches!:eek::eek:
..but he went down fighting..He's arguably their best athlete/player in the team, now..

Pandemonium among the crowd as they jostle to get free gifts thrown by the Li Ning girls.

I am leaving now.

China again.. China again..

..but he went down fighting..He's arguably their best athlete/player in the team, now..

Yes, he is the best player in the team, hope he did not get to upset, congrats China, the TRUE BADMINTON DOMINANCE COUNTRY in the world!!

Hail to China.... become winner without losing any game

Congrat to China

Congratzz to CHINA...!

Congrats to China winning Sudirman Cup again with 3-0 against Korea. And they win it in 2 matches that considered their weakest points. From XD and MD.

Summary of the matches:

XD: I frown when I saw LYB pair up ZHeng Bo and Yu Yang. They are the best players in China XD but never paired before. The first set they make novice mistake that usually made by scratch pair. meanwhile LHJ give few easy points too. Though they try to chase the Koreans from large deficit, China pair lost first set. Second set, their work as pair shine thru and win leading all the way. The third set was quite gripping, score keep chasing one by one thru the middle of the game. Then China pair find some third gear and just never look back. Yu Yang play very well in third set. Maybe she should pair with ZB cause they will be hard to defeat.

MS: LD VS PSH. Like Lin Dan style, he play not as good as he play LCW but always in control. PSH play his best but lost in the end in straight set.

MD: What a thrilling match. CY/FHF racing in first set and win quite easily 21-14. In second set, they play in Korea hand by playing too many drive . LYD show some amazing skill here and win 21-17. Third set is thrilling from first point to end. China leading 11-8 in interval but Korean pair got 5 points in a row and leading thru 17-17. CY/FHF play a very well few last points. They keep focus and attack the shuttlecock if it only rise a little from the net and reap the reward in the end.

Korea definitely had the advantage from the matches line up by getting to play their stongest pairs. XD first then MD third. But China had near complete line up and again manage to win this CUp without lost any points like 2 years ago.

Absolutely a great game. Especially the Men's Doubles. I actually really hoped Korea would have won that Men's Doubles game cause they played such an outclassing game against Fu and Cai.

Oh well, guess its an ALL WIN for CHINA all the way..

special award to LD. :)

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2009 Sudirman Cup Final: China 3 : 0 Korea

http://www.3dflags.com/art/comps/chn0001/3dflags_chn0001-0002a.gif 3 : 0 http://www.3dflags.com/art/comps/kor0001/3dflags_kor0001-0002a.gif

Well done China !!!
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Lin Dan got Eddie Chong Award. This is an award for the best badminton players (all from MS thru MX) in a year. BWF choose Lin Dan was the best in 2008.

Ironically he only rank third in the world right now. LOL

Lin Dan got Eddie Chong Award. This is an award for the best badminton players (all from MS thru MX) in a year. BWF choose Lin Dan was the best in 2008.

Ironically he only rank third in the world right now. LOL
Just shows, the rankings mean persistence in tournaments.

OMG! south korea is becoming second place in Sudirman Cup 2009
I'm little sad:crying:, but in this time proud too...:D
especially for mixed double player lee yong dae ;) and lee hyo jung
and...
congratzz to China
haha :)

<yawn> so many thanks & announcement before prize giving ceremony

..after LD, all 4 teams are lining up to receive their awards..INA first, then MAS..Now the KORs are up next, thanking the fans, everyone looking relaxed, LHJ & HHY all smiles..CHN team thanked & congratulated the other 3 teams before their award presentation..

Chinese team walk around the podium for handshakes.

The comentator of Indonesia said that Zheng Bo look a bit fat in the ceremony. :)

Fat or no fat, he had one killing smash.

why does bao chunlai get no medal?

Okey Dokey, now can put up the list of countries :

1) CHINA (again)
2) South Korea
3) & 4) Indonesia and Malaysia (no play-off)
5) Denmark
6) England
7) Japan
8) Hong Kong

Group 2
1) or 9) Thailand
2), 10) Russia
3), 11) Taiwan
4), 12) Singapore
5), 13) Germany
6), 14) Netherlands
7), 15) Poland
8), 16) France

Group 3
1), 17) India
2), 18) Bulgaria
3) 19) Ukraine
4), 20) USA
5), 21) Scotland
6), 22) Czech
7), 25) Sweden
8), 26) Australia


Group 4
1), 27)Switzerland
2), 28) Lithuania
3), 29) Philipines
4), 30) Portugal
5), 31) Iceland
6), 32) South Africa
7), 33) Sri Lanka
8), 34) TUrkey
9), 35) Luxembourg
10), 36) Mongolia

It seems BWF will change the rules for2011 edition, so, there'll be no demotion or promotion in the Groups. The teams supposed to be demoted will be happy.

This time LYB held on to the trophy, unlike 2 yrs ago, where the top nearly fell off..

See you guys again in 2 yrs in........................................*place to be determined*..:p

This time LYB held on to the trophy, unlike 2 yrs ago, where the top nearly fell off..

See you guys again in 2 yrs in........................................*place to be determined*..:p

place to be determined* but outcome will the SAME.:D:p;)

With that kind of play.....i dont think they can win over LYD/JJS......;)

LYD will contributes 2 big points to KOR.........

Chn will wins at 3 - 2 margin..........;)



yay china won sudirman cup again..great matches esp for mixed and mens double..love fu hai feng and cai yun

Lin Dan got Eddie Chong Award. This is an award for the best badminton players (all from MS thru MX) in a year. BWF choose Lin Dan was the best in 2008.

Ironically he only rank third in the world right now. LOL


How can that possibly happen for a 3rd WR player to win everything:eek:...what happen to the 1st and 2nd?;):p:confused:

Super Well Done China..they All Did Greatfull Matches..proud For China...they Are So Dominant Compare To Korea..i Love Fu Hai Feng Caiyun The Most..im Happy Can See Both Of Them Won The Match..congratz,,

Well done by Feng Yun, all the 3 matches that played tonight were very worth to watch. LYD should be very disappointed now since he lost both XD and MD. I love to watch the scratch pairing of ZB & YY, this scratch pairing successfully created some positive effect for the chinese team :D To conclude this year's Sudirman, I would say China has a perfect win. Salute to China.. :D

..swept all the AE titles early this yr, now a complete annihilation in the Sudirman Cup and maybe later the World Championships titles??..:confused:;)

yeahhh salute to china..esp feng yun..felt sorry to LYD but i love feng yun more..haha..they all so hardworking and so tough..love china..

..swept all the AE titles early this yr, now a complete annihilation in the Sudirman Cup and maybe later the World Championships titles??..:confused:;)
I think the Korean will take revenge on the chinese in the WC :D I am waiting to see how LYD/JJS come back in the WC :D

yeahhh salute to china..esp feng yun..felt sorry to LYD but i love feng yun more..haha..they all so hardworking and so tough..love china..
yaya, with their 'Feng Yun Sword' on hand, they are rock tonight :D

It seems BWF will change the rules for2011 edition, so, there'll be no demotion or promotion in the Groups. The teams supposed to be demoted will be happy.
What are the news rules? Is there a link thats describe the new rules?

haha..yeah..they rock the guangzhou gymnasium..haha..love it..

Congratulation to China team, you're still the best
salute to KOR team for their fighting spirit especially LYD, legend on the making...

thank you, guys and gals, for share your knowledge and joy in all Sudirman Cup's threads

so long, Guangzhou, will strolling aroung the city tomorrow before back home.

What are the news rules? Is there a link thats describe the new rules?
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=68214

congrats to china for winning and retaining the sudirman cup back!:)

http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=68214
chris, how's your alarm clock? glad that u still can wake up and make it for the final of the sudirman cup:)
that troop sound must be damn loud:p

..missed a bit in the early part..I had a bad dream CHN would cream KOR and LYD would lose both of his matches...I woke up and the dream came true..:(

why does bao chunlai get no medal?

One team only got 15 medals. There for the medals only for head coach, LYB and players who play in this Sudirman Cup matches. (Reserve players who did not play did not get any medal including BCL, CJ and XXF)

One team only got 15 medals. There for the medals only for head coach, LYB and players who play in this Sudirman Cup matches. (Reserve players who did not play did not get any medal including BCL, CJ and XXF)
oh, that's bad:p
not like thomas/uber cup:D

Only half the INA squad stayed back for the prize presentation, the other half went back to hotel with me immediately afterwards.

Tomorrow, both fastdrop and I have evening flights, maybe we'll stroll around Guangzhou like copadh, or maybe we'll just zzzzzz ........

oh, that's bad:p
not like thomas/uber cup:D

Msia one, got extra some medal more :D - 10 players + 3 coaches. TCS, NHL also get medal, I hope they kept one for Julia.

Msia one, got extra some medal more :D - 10 players + 3 coaches. TCS, NHL also get medal, I hope they kept one for Julia.
1 more is for me is it?:p

One team only got 15 medals. There for the medals only for head coach, LYB and players who play in this Sudirman Cup matches. (Reserve players who did not play did not get any medal including BCL, CJ and XXF)




i didnt see INA playesr..nova and liliana got the medal?? why ?? they had played in sudirman cup??

So, the INA players who will get the Bronze medal:
Christian Hadinata (head coach)
MS: Sony Dwi Kuncoro, Simon Santoso
WS: Maria Kristin Yulianti, Adriyanti Firdasari
MD: Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan, Bona Septano/Mohd Ahsan
WD: Meiliana Jauhari/Shendy Puspa Irawati, Nitya Krishinda Maheswari/Greysia Polii
XD: Nova Widianto/Liliyana Natsir, Devin Lahardi/Lita Nurlita

A total of: 17 (exceed the limit???)

but i didnt see nova and liliana there??

LYB forced Lin Dan to play 5 times in this tournament. It looks too exploitated for me. China always give it best line up for every match. Just imagine, if you were China head coach, would you asked Lin Dan to play again Andew Smith, in case u have Bao CL and Cen Jin. It not make sense for me. I looks like he(LYB) is too selfish. He doesn't care about anything, he is the man without heart... huh...

LYB forced Lin Dan to play 5 times in this tournament. It looks too exploitated for me. China always give it best line up for every match. Just imagine, if you were China head coach, would you asked Lin Dan to play again Andew Smith, in case u have Bao CL and Cen Jin. It not make sense for me. I looks like he(LYB) is too selfish. He doesn't care about anything, he is the man without heart... huh...

I'd totally agree with u on that. But it could be that he wanted a 0 LOSS victory throughout the whole tourney that he kept sticking with the 1st strong lineup? It is a record now that they won the sudirman cup 2009 without losing a single game. xD

I'd totally agree with u on that. But it could be that he wanted a 0 LOSS victory throughout the whole tourney that he kept sticking with the 1st strong lineup? It is a record now that they won the sudirman cup 2009 without losing a single game. xD

I doubt if Chen Jin can lose to Andrew Smith. :rolleyes:

LYB forced Lin Dan to play 5 times in this tournament. It looks too exploitated for me. China always give it best line up for every match. Just imagine, if you were China head coach, would you asked Lin Dan to play again Andew Smith, in case u have Bao CL and Cen Jin. It not make sense for me. I looks like he(LYB) is too selfish. He doesn't care about anything, he is the man without heart... huh...
Sour grapes?
Did malaysia field anyone except LCW? :rolleyes:

LYB forced Lin Dan to play 5 times in this tournament. It looks too exploitated for me. China always give it best line up for every match. Just imagine, if you were China head coach, would you asked Lin Dan to play again Andew Smith, in case u have Bao CL and Cen Jin. It not make sense for me. I looks like he(LYB) is too selfish. He doesn't care about anything, he is the man without heart... huh...

Chen Jin had back injury and probably still feeling it a bit these days, and Bao always had a bad knee...

LYB is a genius in terms of utilizing human resources, and if you don't believe me, just review the result of this year's Sudirman cup again.

LYB forced Lin Dan to play 5 times in this tournament. It looks too exploitated for me. China always give it best line up for every match. Just imagine, if you were China head coach, would you asked Lin Dan to play again Andew Smith, in case u have Bao CL and Cen Jin. It not make sense for me. I looks like he(LYB) is too selfish. He doesn't care about anything, he is the man without heart... huh...
How is it selfish to win:rolleyes::rolleyes:??

CJ is always injured, BCL has his knee problems, and CL hasn't proven himself yet. Why not rely on the trusty LD?

Err... he last time I checked, you play to win :rolleyes:. Obviously LYB felt LD could handle the load otherwise he would not have risked him. Plus the injury issues mentioned by other posters may have forced LYB's hand

It seems BWF will change the rules for 2011 edition, so, there'll be no demotion or promotion in the Groups. The teams supposed to be demoted will be happy.



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Are the new rules for the 2011 edition released yet?
When released, please keep us informed.
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well,i perfer the current format:)

anyway,i hope the change will made sudirman cup more interesting:)

Sour grapes?
Did malaysia field anyone except LCW? :rolleyes:

Msia had no choice (as you know), TCS couldnt even win vs HK's Chan Yan Kit or Ng Wei, much less PSH, PG. The Sudirman Cup is more for exposure to foback up MS, since he has never gone for team events bf. Last yr was Arif in TC, this yr is TCS's turn.:cool::)

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Are the new rules for the 2011 edition released yet?
When released, please keep us informed.
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It's reported in Badzine, it's all the info we have at the moment :
http://www.badzine.info/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1836:event-sudirman-cup-to-change-format&catid=61:newsflash&Itemid=76

So far, no one has stepped up to host the next Sudirman Cup. IBF may want to take care of that before making any rule changes.

Realistically, even 8 teams in the top group is too many. Only the top five have a realistic chance to win. The current format gives many teams the satisfaction of winning their divisions.

Just shows, the rankings mean persistence in tournaments.

... that paper ranking is on on total points..

if you look at their average point won per tournament, LD leads a mile over LCW, that really shows who has the better quality, and who's the real No.1..

... simply because LD wins more champions in %...

It's reported in Badzine, it's all the info we have at the moment:
http://www.badzine.info/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1836:event-sudirman-cup-to-change-format&catid=61:newsflash&Itemid=76



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Thanks eagle,

So we shall wait for BWF to release the details.


So far, no one has stepped up to host the next Sudirman Cup. IBF may want to take care of that before making any rule changes.

Realistically, even 8 teams in the top group is too many. Only the top five have a realistic chance to win. The current format gives many teams the satisfaction of winning their divisions.



Agree ... IMHO, I believe that it's best to keep the present rules.

If teams cannot make it into Group 1, what would be their chances to win the Sudirman Cup? :confused:
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Agreed.. LYB's idea to have Lin Dan in there would always ensure China a Point which is very crucial, especially in a team tournament.. Hehez.

Nontheless, The mixed doubles pair that China released in the Finals was really suprising.. Clinching the Mixed doubles would have boosted China to a 2-0 lead straight away as none of the Korea Single players would be actually on par with LD when playing in a tourney.

In the end. Well done China for a 0 Loss Victory in 2009 Sudirman Cup.

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Thanks eagle,

So we shall wait for BWF to release the details.

Agree ... IMHO, I believe that it's best to keep the present rules.

If teams cannot make it into Group 1, what would be their chances to win the Sudirman Cup? :confused:
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I agree on that. If teams can't even win their division, much less be promoted at least to group 2, they might as well save group 1's strength and call it a 5-0 win against anyone below...I think the system works pretty well now, although it's really time consuming...but this way, ensures that group 1 will feature the most competitive and most entertaining round robin matches, AND lead up to suprising and entertaining semis and finals...it's what drives the ticket sales...if no one wants to host it, maybe i should talk to Badminton Canada:rolleyes:;):p

for the 2 who polled CHN 3-0 KOR please identify youselves for a round of applause.
Respects!

for the 2 who polled CHN 3-0 KOR please identify youselves for a round of applause.
Respects!
I think me and that other guy who posted int he first few pages of this thread. :cool:

I'd totally agree with u on that. But it could be that he wanted a 0 LOSS victory throughout the whole tourney that he kept sticking with the 1st strong lineup? It is a record now that they won the sudirman cup 2009 without losing a single game. xD
they done in in 2005 as well, ive been told.

for the 2 who polled CHN 3-0 KOR please identify youselves for a round of applause.
Respects!
..the bigger question is, who was the one person who voted for a KOR 3-0 sweep of CHN??..was it drifit?? or was it narnia??..:confused: ;)
..It is a record now that they won the sudirman cup 2009 without losing a single game. xD
..you meant "..losing a single match"..:)..China did lose a few games (some people call "a game" as "a set")..
they done in in 2005 as well, ive been told.
..correct-a-mundo..
http://2005sc.163.com/special/s/00231F2C/sdmymqlive.html

..the bigger question is, who was the one person who voted for a KOR 3-0 sweep of CHN??..was it drifit?? or was it narnia??..:confused: ;)

Does it really matter? The sad fact is there are more "wild" prediction of Korea beating China instead. 15 people voted KOR to win out of the total 29. Who are these "optimisitc" people?;)

..raise your hand if you're one of the 15 people who voted for KOR to win over CHN??..or for that matter, raise your hand if you're one of the 21 people who voted for CHN to finish as runner-ups!..:eek::p;)

Agreed.. LYB's idea to have Lin Dan in there would always ensure China a Point which is very crucial, especially in a team tournament.. Hehez.

Nontheless, The mixed doubles pair that China released in the Finals was really suprising.. Clinching the Mixed doubles would have boosted China to a 2-0 lead straight away as none of the Korea Single players would be actually on par with LD when playing in a tourney.

In the end. Well done China for a 0 Loss Victory in 2009 Sudirman Cup.

lin dan is mr. consistent:)

..the bigger question is, who was the one person who voted for a KOR 3-0 sweep of CHN??..was it drifit?? or was it narnia??..:confused: ;)
I thought you are one that would never get lost with facts, statistics and records. haha.. join the madness la. :D

I voted for the last answer. Join the madness. ~

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you sure KOR can thrash CHN?
i close the poll at 7.10pm :D:p
if vote later than that will be no fun.

..so who was the only other "mad" person who joined you to vote for MAS 3-1 over CHN??..:eek: :confused:

..so who was the only other "mad" person who joined you to vote for MAS 3-1 over CHN??..:eek: :confused:
That's you to figure out. Come on, Chris.

LYB forced Lin Dan to play 5 times in this tournament. It looks too exploitated for me. China always give it best line up for every match. Just imagine, if you were China head coach, would you asked Lin Dan to play again Andew Smith, in case u have Bao CL and Cen Jin. It not make sense for me. I looks like he(LYB) is too selfish. He doesn't care about anything, he is the man without heart... huh...

As far as I read on the internet, LYB let LD play when LD WANTED. These games were good for him to be prepared for the final both physically and mentally. I guess if LD didn't want to play, LYB would have other guys on.

Maybe it's a little bit late for the discussion, hope it can help you.