SEVEN times Sudirman Cup Champion - China

[AlanY]

Seven times champion China whitewashed the rest of the world

CHN 5-0 England
CHN 5-0 Japan
CHN 5-0 INA
CHN 3-0 MAS
CHN 3-0 KOR

That's what I called a proper whitewash.

[drifit]

they are strong in every department.

[volcom]

Utter domination against all those who oppose them!!
ALas the scourge of Korea is completed

[ctjcad]

they are strong in every department.
..they are TOO strong in every department..;)

[volcom]

Like LYB said, whitewash for in memory of those who died in the terrible earthquake last year!

[drifit]

..they are TOO strong in every department..;)
unlike other teams that either strong in singles and try to steal a point in double. or strong in doubles and try to steal a point in single.
CHN is strong and consistent in every department and able to get point. no need to hope or pray to get point in singles/doubles.

[lee17]

yah.. the chinese team is the best team ever... but inspite of that KOREAN FOREVER! For 3-LEE wish your luck nxt tym and hope lots of success awaits you.. specially lee yong dae... ANYEONG KOREAN!!!

[george@chongwei]

they are strong in every department.
no doubt...;):cool:

[phaarix]

Seven times champion China whitewashed the rest of the world

CHN 5-0 England
CHN 5-0 Japan
CHN 5-0 INA
CHN 3-0 MAS
CHN 3-0 KOR

That's what I called a proper whitewash.

I really thought Korea would get a couple of matches... but nope! Not even them! I think China's dominance is at it's peak now. I'm sure (I hope) it can't get worse (for other countries) than this :o!

[ctjcad]

..this is CHN's third straight 3-0 victory in the Final..And so far, they are the only team/country to have given a big goose egg to their opponents in the Final Rd (different format since 1999)..

[suetyan]

Congratulation to China team and I never seen such a strong 'Feng Yun' pair :D

[xXazn_romeoXx]

i got to admit, it was still a struggle to get the 3-0 win...credit to Korea...but damn...this team is too strong...even without XXF/CJ/BCL to play one point...damn lol...

[kwun]

i got to admit, it was still a struggle to get the 3-0 win...credit to Korea...but damn...this team is too strong...even without XXF/CJ/BCL to play one point...damn lol...

i agree. we are not giving the losing teams enough credit by using words like "whitewash", "domination".

many matches were fought to 3 games with very close scores. it just somehow that Chinese players managed to finish off the matches.

now if I go in there and play against LD, that will be a whitewash. ;)

[xXazn_romeoXx]

i agree. we are not giving the losing teams enough credit by using words like "whitewash", "domination".

many matches were fought to 3 games with very close scores. it just somehow that Chinese players managed to finish off the matches.

now if I go in there and play against LD, that will be a whitewash. ;)

Definately agreed. Credit to INA, MAS and KOR for their efforts, even though they did not manage to get any overall points...Many of the matches were VERY VERY close, and at times, the crowd wasn't sure if China was going to win the match or not...I admit I was in definately awe...Mentally, this team is either really strong, or the crowd affected the opposing teams...I know I was clapping hard xD...now whitewash or domination could be a term used to describe the mongolian team...no offence...even though some matches were somewhat close...they did not win a single match =(...

[madbad]

BRAVO CHINA

To blank KOR 3-0, winning both double matches played, is a commendable feat. Yes, those matches may have been close but, dang, the CHN team mental strength is unreal.

This year, CHN has no equal

[markham player]

LYD has to play 3 games of the XD & MD had to start within an hour, a very big disadvantage for the Korean. Also his XD partner made a lot of mistakes & couldn't win the most important point of the starting match at the beginning of the final, too bad.

[itiszhu]

it was ZhengBo&YuYang that helped CHN won the final.
I thought CHN would have a 3:1 won, XD or MD would be lost. but Zheng&Yu really played good, they won the 1st and the most important one match, and, what is more important, they let LYD tired, both physical and mental.
LYD did not play good at 1st game of MD, then better at 2nd and 3rd, but not as good as he could

[hcyong]

KOR definitely deserves the runner-up spot. They gave CHN the most trouble. It could have been 3-2 instead of 3-0.

[bradmyster]

Grats to China and badluck to Korea.
Im gonna download all the finals videos tonight :D

[weeyeh]

Very impressive display by FHF/CY vs. JJS/LYD. LYD was obviously very tired making more than his usual share of mistakes. FHF's performance is also commendable. I think he has improved a lot at the net since AE. I hoped for at least a glimpse of the WS. A fresh LYD would have helped but that was not to be.

I bet YY gave LHJ a big lesson on front net coverage from what I read (too bad I didn't watch the match).

[CLELY]

Once again CHN team proves they're the number one in this BWF event. As predicted earlier that CHN will defend SC, and exactly they did it last night.

[AlanY]

the truth is this Chinese team is a fairly young team with the exception of FHF/CY that everyone suggested is the weakest link whicch they can pick up a point. they are the olympics silver medalist, current AE champion and undefeated throughtout the tournament, if this is the weakest link what chance for the other nations? I can see CHN will continue to dominate world badminton for awhile.

[weeyeh]

the truth is this Chinese team is a fairly young team with the exception of FHF/CY that everyone suggested is the weakest link whicch they can pick up a point. they are the olympics silver medalist, current AE champion and undefeated throughtout the tournament, if this is the weakest link what chance for the other nations? I can see CHN will continue to dominate world badminton for awhile.

The weakest link speak is not unfounded and must be seen relative to the other matches. The most likely points for Korea comes from XD and MD -- Korea is relatively hopeless for MS, WS and even WD.

XD performance relies purely on the performance of LHJ that day. ZB/YY pair was the correct tactical choice against LHJ/LYD. ZB will focus on hammering down the shuttle (which he does very well) with YY hunting the net. YY can even throw a few hammer blows of her own. YY is, IMHO, much better overall and especially at the net than LHJ.

FHF/CY pair has not been extremely stable (e.g. OG'08 MD finals). FHF's play is usually plagued with tonnes of unforced error and average defense, and compared to their forming days, this pair is a bit predictable. They are also the only pair China that has any chance against LYD/JJS. This means China has to use a pair that the Koreans already know very well.

Among the few things that contributed to the Chinese MD victory are:
Improved gameplay/net performance by FHF
Exceptionally crafty play by both FHF/CY
relatively tired LYDI believe both XD and MD are the weakest link but the pool available for XD gives it a tactical edge.

So indeed, as you said, given that these are the "weakest link", China will remain dominant for the foreseeable future.

[AlanY]

I believe both XD and MD are the weakest link but the pool available for XD gives it a tactical edge.


So indeed, as you said, given that these are the "weakest link", China will remain dominant for the foreseeable future.
if you consider the opponents CHN's XD is one of the strongest. the tall girl of the KOR pair always has her up and down, brilliant for one point and rubbish for the other, one of the reason that KOR lost the first match. what other good XD pairs from other nations in good form?

[weeyeh]

if you consider the opponents CHN's XD is one of the strongest. the tall girl of the KOR pair always has her up and down, brilliant for one point and rubbish for the other, one of the reason that KOR lost the first match. what other good XD pairs from other nations in good form?

Err... you meant LHJ. I just wrote that LYD/LHJ's performance hinges on how she plays. LYD/LHJ is current WR2 so not an arbitrary pair to trivialise. Even LYB took precaution by sending YY/ZB instead of YY/HHB or ZB/MJ.

[robin7]

KOR's doubles are on par with CHN's. In fact, I was expecting ZB to choke in the XD but YY calmed things down a bit. What a wise move by LYB to field ZB/YY; ZB/MJ or HHB/YY would have lost the match I guess. ZB was effective at attacking at the back and YY was superb at the net. YY served very well in the 3rd game while LHJ looked clueless at the net at times and I believe that was the key.

In MD, FHF was more comfortable doing all the interceptions at the net and more aggressive at the back. CY/FHF's defense was solid and they were more gutsy and played sligtly better than JJS/LYD at the end of the decider. Seriously, this match could have turned either way.

Overall, I would say it was the committment and mental toughness of CHN that contributed to the win. LYD has done his part in both XD and MD but his opponents just played better.

"Proper whitewash" is overstated for CHN against KOR but bravo to CHN!

[AlanY]

the proper whitewash was referred to team CHN against all the others over the tournament (not KOR alone). as a teaser anyway.

[hashdam]

stop commenting on LYD was tired therefor he cannot play as well
so what its a team match who says you have to put the same player in twice
if korea cant find a better replacement for him its their fault
not an excuse for why they couldn't win 1 point

[AlanY]

LYD has done his part in both XD and MD but his opponents just played better.
LYD's part was to secure the 2 points that KOR badly needed for them to have a chance to regain the Sudirman Cup, and he failed in both counts.

[Jonc108]

stop commenting on LYD was tired therefor he cannot play as well
so what its a team match who says you have to put the same player in twice
if korea cant find a better replacement for him its their fault
not an excuse for why they couldn't win 1 point

totally agree.

this is a team event, and what best players a team able to feature for each match is also a measure of the team strength and level.

has to feature both LYD and LHJ for 2 matches simply tells you Korea is as good as China as a team.

yet pity that people always like to find excuse for defeat of their favourite team by saying if this and if that afterwards...

[weeyeh]

Come'on guys.

The facts are that:
China has more better players
FHF/CY played excellent badminton
LYD has to play in 2 matches
LYD is evidently tired during the MD affecting his performanceWho's making excuses? China won fair and square.

[yen_saw]

totally agree.

has to feature both LYD and LHJ for 2 matches simply tells you Korea is as good as China as a team.
...

KOR has put LYD & LHJ to play 2 matches simply means lack of other players of caliber capable of stealing a point from China.

[yen_saw]

Come'on guys.


The facts are that:
China has more better players
FHF/CY played excellent badminton
LYD has to play in 2 matches
LYD is evidently tired during the MD affecting his performanceWho's making excuses? China won fair and square.

Your first point sum up everything. Points 2,3 and 4 do not warrant a win in every tournament.

[LazyBuddy]

Come'on guys.

The facts are that:
China has more better players
FHF/CY played excellent badminton
LYD has to play in 2 matches
LYD is evidently tired during the MD affecting his performanceWho's making excuses? China won fair and square.

Add to the list, LYD was back against wall in MD, a lost will send the team home right away. Even a W, may only extend the life for another hour at most, as the next ones will be WS and WD. On the other hand, FHF/CY is in the harvest mode. Whether they put the punch, or give the honor to WYH, the trophy is pretty much home.

So, one is fighting for a hopeless battle, the other one is having fun to looking for the cracks, then the result is pretty much predictable. I have to say LYD did his best for the day already, no regret.

[AlanY]

So, one is fighting for a hopeless battle, the other one is having fun to looking for the cracks, then the result is pretty much predictable. I have to say LYD did his best for the day already, no regret.
having fun? you obviously havent seen how intensive the match was!!
obviously, LYD's best is not good enough. he needed a better XD partner and a more match fit MD partner for KOR to have any chance.

[drifit]

come on, gals and guys......
i dont think that Korea is totally relying on LYD to win the Sudirman Cup. as our master LB said, LYD has done his part and it was not his winning day.

i am watching replay of RF vs RN. RN lost to RF straight set on a clay court.:D:p

[ants]

Seven times champion China whitewashed the rest of the world

CHN 5-0 England
CHN 5-0 Japan
CHN 5-0 INA
CHN 3-0 MAS
CHN 3-0 KOR

That's what I called a proper whitewash.

Technically its a Whitewash.. but they didnt the final 2 matches in the Semis and Final. But yes i do agree... China is unbeatable.

[ctjcad]

it was ZhengBo&YuYang that helped CHN won the final.
...
..that was pretty much the nail on the coffin for team Korea..

the truth is this Chinese team is a fairly young team with the exception of FHF/CY that everyone suggested is the weakest link whicch they can pick up a point. they are the olympics silver medalist, current AE champion and undefeated throughtout the tournament, if this is the weakest link what chance for the other nations? I can see CHN will continue to dominate world badminton for awhile.
..Fu Hai Feng, Cai Yun and Zheng Bo are the veteran men's doubles players. I can see them hanging on for 2, maybe 3 more yrs. After that, i don't know which of their men's doubles players will rise to the top.
LYD will continue to improve and mature. LHJ most likely will be replaced in the future.

...XD performance relies purely on the performance of LHJ that day. ZB/YY pair was the correct tactical choice against LHJ/LYD. ZB will focus on hammering down the shuttle (which he does very well) with YY hunting the net. YY can even throw a few hammer blows of her own. YY is, IMHO, much better overall and especially at the net than LHJ.
...

if you consider the opponents CHN's XD is one of the strongest. the tall girl of the KOR pair always has her up and down, brilliant for one point and rubbish for the other, one of the reason that KOR lost the first match. what other good XD pairs from other nations in good form?
..like i mentioned in the Finals thread, playing against CHN's XD pair is akin to playing against a Men's Doubles pair; in a way, it's almost unfair. For one, not only is Yu Yang more masterful @ the net, but just look & hear at how she clobbered the shuttle..:p

[hcpoirot]

come on, gals and guys......
i dont think that Korea is totally relying on LYD to win the Sudirman Cup. as our master LB said, LYD has done his part and it was not his winning day.

i am watching replay of RF vs RN. RN lost to RF straight set on a clay court.:D:p

Yes a little OT. RF won against RN. Hooray!!

[hcpoirot]

[quote=ctjcad;1170122..Fu Hai Feng, Cai Yun and Zheng Bo are the veteran men's doubles players. I can see them hanging on for 2, maybe 3 more yrs. After that, i don't know which of their men's doubles players will rise to the top.
LYD will continue to improve and mature. LHJ most likely will be replaced in the future.
[/quote]

How old is Fu Hai Feng? 24-25? Still quite young to be able to fight minimal London 2012. With lack competition in MD in his country, if he want, he can have a long career in MD.

[koo_fan]

Yes a little OT. RF won against RN. Hooray!!
Owh, can i join? Hooray!

[ctjcad]

How old is Fu Hai Feng? 24-25? Still quite young to be able to fight minimal London 2012. With lack competition in MD in his country, if he want, he can have a long career in MD.
Cai Yun, the oldest - 29 yrs young
Zheng Bo - will be 26 yrs young
Fu Haifeng - 25 yrs young

FuHF can play a few more yrs, but who will be his partner once Cai hangs it up (Cai will be 33 y.o. and FuHF will be 29 y.o come 2012 OG)??..

[cooler]

no doubt...;):cool:In their weak departments, china did have to give up a game in MD and XD tho:p:p:p

[cooler]

BRAVO CHINA

To blank KOR 3-0, winning both double matches played, is a commendable feat. Yes, those matches may have been close but, dang, the CHN team mental strength is unreal.

This year, CHN has no equalLD said he is peaking now:D I watched the lcw vs ld in the SF, lcw has improved mentally and consistency, but ld had also improved too.

[weeyeh]

Your first point sum up everything. Points 2,3 and 4 do not warrant a win in every tournament.

Now, now, that will downplay the great tacticians that FHF/CY were in the match.

[LazyBuddy]

having fun? you obviously havent seen how intensive the match was!!
obviously, LYD's best is not good enough. he needed a better XD partner and a more match fit MD partner for KOR to have any chance.


When I say "having fun", I did not mean CY/FHF dressed in Hawaii shirt, laughing, joking, eating, having a vacation. What I meant, was that compare to KOR pair, they can be more mentally relaxed, as their allowed error margin is wider.

Of course the match is intensive, as it's pretty much the last game for SC, and all the coaches are on the court side. ;)

[weeyeh]

When I say "having fun", I did not mean CY/FHF dressed in Hawaii shirt, laughing, joking, eating, having a vacation. What I meant, was that compare to KOR pair, they can be more mentally relaxed, as their allowed error margin is wider.

Of course the match is intensive, as it's pretty much the last game for SC, and all the coaches are on the court side. ;)

I doubt it. They are under pressure not to drop a single match in the whole tournament. Conversely, the Koreans just have to do their stuff since there is no chance of a Korean championship. Likewise, Koreans are also under pressure to not go down flat.

[hezudao]

good performance from all teams, everyone performed to expectations

[cooler]

Owh, can i join? Hooray!so, when r u gonna change your nic to 'foo_fan'?:D:p