BAM hires Hendrawan as coach

[fantastic4]

According to one reliable source, Hendrawan will resign from PBSI and going to Malaysia to coach there. Anyone can confirm this ? And which sector would be his responsibility in Malaysia ? MS or WS ?

[limsy]

i dont think that mas need another single coach:)

[zqloy]

Where did u get the source from? If its true thats great!

[ardhitya.y]

From News Paper This Morning and his fbook... Hendrawan is going to Malaysia... hehehe!!!!

Indonesian has improved Malaysian Badminton... so, Malaysia should say many thx! hahahaah
Just Kidding.!!

I hope Hendrawan wouldn't be another Manohara!

Just Kidding again!

[din]

care to explain what "Manohara" is??:confused:


From News Paper This Morning and his fbook... Hendrawan is going to Malaysia... hehehe!!!!

Indonesian has improved Malaysian Badminton... so, Malaysia should say many thx! hahahaah
Just Kidding.!!

I hope Hendrawan wouldn't be another Manohara!

Just Kidding again!

[danielwong]

maybe coz of lack of depth in the MS...we need more coaches...

[huangkwokhau]

According to one reliable source, Hendrawan will resign from PBSI and going to Malaysia to coach there. Anyone can confirm this ? And which sector would be his responsibility in Malaysia ? MS or WS ?
Yes..hendrawan will coach Back up players....been talking to Bam since last year...I am surprised that someone has leaked it already....then PBSI asked him to saty till Sudirman cup...

[limsy]

ok,hope the new variety will help the back up:)

[ants]

Good to hear that. Now Rexy has a Indonesian buddy to play with.

[huangkwokhau]

It is official as Kompas just reported as well....

[huangkwokhau]

Rexy, actually invited Hendrawan to join BAM..they are both from same club..Tangkas...

[ants]

Hopefully our youngsters will play and improve well under Hendrawan's tutelage. Im pretty sure he is a great coach and hope his knowledge will not go to waste. Will be welcoming him on board.

[fantastic4]

Rexy, actually invited Hendrawan to join BAM..they are both from same club..Tangkas...

Do you know who will replace Hendrawan's position as Men Single's coach at PBSI ?

[player81]

Looking forward what Hendrawan can help to boost up the skill of our backup player.

[huangkwokhau]

Do you know who will replace Hendrawan's position as Men Single's coach at PBSI ?
There are some coaches that had been approached..no final confirmation yet from PBSI ..for sure..Tangkas' Henry Saputra, I heard, refused to be one..

[badcliq]

Indonesia is lacking in Men's single department too. Hmmm....

Let's hope our youngsters will be inspired by Hendrawan's presence!

Maybe we'll have another M'sian PR ceremony again soon :P

[Sandy]

The problem is when PBSI called some "experience" coaches in clubs to Pelatnas, give another problem into those clubs, exception those clubs has good re-generation in coaching.

Those coaches in some clubs are :

Tangkas :
Kurnia Hu
Hendry Saputra

Djarum :
Agus Dwi Santoso
Fung Permadi (if he still active in coaching)
Ellen Angelina

Jaya Raya :
Lanny Tedjo

CBN Batam :
Ricky Subagja
Lidya Jaelawijaya (not sure)

Pelita :
Icuk Sugiarto

[Loh]

There are some coaches that had been approached..no final confirmation yet from PBSI ..for sure..Tangkas' Henry Saputra, I heard, refused to be one..

Which other coach will be as patriotic to remain behind to coach Indonesia? :cool:

INA hasn't been playing up to full potential yet and with the departure of their better known coaches, this will certainly not help the situation! :(

[aswad]

anyone can tell me where can i buy Han jian footwork book.......really need helps from the community. thanks

[aswad]

According to one reliable source, Hendrawan will resign from PBSI and going to Malaysia to coach there. Anyone can confirm this ? And which sector would be his responsibility in Malaysia ? MS or WS ?
it is a good news for Msia team coz they can look into a good sign of hendrawan.:D

[maa2003]

care to explain what "Manohara" is??:confused:

Manohara is a Indonesian model which married with crown-prince of one of Malaysia state ..... let's forget this issue because it is not related to badminton.

from Kompas online (www.kompas.com), it said that Hendrawan will move to Malaysia and will start from 1 July 2009.
Hendrawan said that he has to be a professional and should think about his own family future ....

[Oldhand]

I wonder what became of Tri Kusharyanto.

Perhaps the BAM should sign him on for XD.
He could boost the existing Malaysian pairs :)

[alonzo]

From News Paper This Morning and his fbook... Hendrawan is going to Malaysia... hehehe!!!!

Indonesian has improved Malaysian Badminton... so, Malaysia should say many thx! hahahaah
Just Kidding.!!

I hope Hendrawan wouldn't be another Manohara!

Just Kidding again!


hahaha,,hope he wouldnt

omg,,whata lucky mas!!! yeah, ithink he resign from pbsi because of the low payment

[ardhitya.y]

Hendrawan said that he' s going to be profe s sional and giving my be st for my family...

ALL ABOUT MONEY!!!!!!!!

[OneToughBirdie]

[quote=ardhitya.y;1169541]Hendrawan said that he' s going to be profe s sional and giving my be st for my family...

ALL ABOUT MONEY!!!!!!!!

We are not living in a benevolent society, nobody works for free:rolleyes:...if Hendrawan works out, he deserves all the $$$ he can get and nobody has any problem with that...and he rightfully should protect his family financially...On the other hand, coaches are hired to be fired if they do not work out:D

[george@chongwei]

that's a great news indeed. perhaps he can come over to help lee chong wei to beat the mighty lin dan as well;)
so he will be a coach in mas back up squad, what about teh siu bok??

[george@chongwei]

Hey, maybe u should learn how to quote someone's post 1st, OTB:D

[ants]

that's a great news indeed. perhaps he can come over to help lee chong wei to beat the mighty lin dan as well;)
so he will be a coach in mas back up squad, what about teh siu bok??

Siu Bok is in charge of the Womens Doubles.

[ants]

Hendrawan said that he' s going to be profe s sional and giving my be st for my family...

ALL ABOUT MONEY!!!!!!!!




Of course it is about the money. He and others also have to make a living to support the family. And not being squeeze dry their talent without any rewards. However to some, it may not be about the money. It is a joy of giving to others like some sort of returning the favor. But it must be done with a giving heart and unconditionally. But when things goes wrong and not as smooth as expected, then giving would have no meaning when there is no WIN WIN situation on both side.

[Jagdpanther]

It's a loss for INA badminton. But not a great loss, though.
No hard feelings, but, as long as I can remember, INA MS achievements under him aren't quite successful either.

Besides, there must be a bunch of HQ MS coaches out there...

[Zabee]

i think Misbun & Rashid is doing a decent job....

[Sandy]

It's a loss for INA badminton. But not a great loss, though.
No hard feelings, but, as long as I can remember, INA MS achievements under him aren't quite successful either.

Besides, there must be a bunch of HQ MS coaches out there...

Just think positive,
At least another one have chance to take over MS and hopefully better than before, like Marleve took WS and we saw big progress on Maria and other players.

[Jagdpanther]

Hendrawan said that he' s going to be profe s sional and giving my be st for my family...

ALL ABOUT MONEY!!!!!!!!



Today's not the Independence Era anymore.
Patriotic, but unable to feed your wife and children, what's the point?
I'm indeed a bit disappointed that we lose another good coach, but I think Hendrawan made a right decision.

However, if it's true that Hendrawan's decision to move to Malaysia is solely because of money/financial problem, then it IS sad!

Are PBSI already that poor they can't even afford to give decent salary to our coaches? :(:crying:


Just think positive,
At least another one have chance to take over MS and hopefully better than before, like Marleve took WS and we saw big progress on Maria and other players.

Any idea who the most suitable person to replace him is, mister?

[ants]

It is INA's loss that he can't coach for PBSI. But for the country, INA should be proud when Malaysia produces a World Champ because of Hendrawan. INA can boast that Hendrawan an INDONESIAN produces a champ. Just like Rexy. Look at a bigger picture.

[nick.h]

It is INA's loss that he can't coach for PBSI. But for the country, INA should be proud when Malaysia produces a World Champ because of Hendrawan. INA can boast that Hendrawan an INDONESIAN produces a champ. Just like Rexy. Look at a bigger picture.


what bigger picture??bigger picture for you malaysians, maybe...but certainly not us Indonesians. yes, by any luck if hendrawan manages to produce a world champ, the glory would still be credited to mas and ONE Indonesian...not all of us. Moreover what does that leave us Indonesians?no world champ for us then?

[Sandy]

Any idea who the most suitable person to replace him is, mister?

I have posted some names in post#17 (include WS & Double coach) but the problem is on the clubs when no coach re-generation in there.

[Jagdpanther]

I have posted some candidates in post#17 (include WS & Double coach) but the problem is on the clubs when no coach re-generation in there.
Oops, I missed that post.
Sorry & thank you.:)

[eaglehelang]

It's made public in the Msian press :

BAM hires Hendrawan

By By K.M. Boopathyboopathy@nst.com.my

2009/05/19
THE BA of Malaysia (BAM) has acquired the services of Indonesian coach Hendrawan to arrest the slide in the national singles squad. BAM secretary P. Ganga Rao, in a telephone interview from Guangzhou yesterday, said Hendrawan will assume his position as one of the national singles coaches beginning on July 1.

Although BAM has been wanting to hire him since March, Hendrawan was tied with the Indonesia BA (PBSI) and only signed a two-year contract after the conclusion of the Sudirman Cup on Sunday.

"Hendrawan was a top class international and has proven to be a quality coach. His work has shone over the last three years with the Indonesian team. He will add strength to our bid to improve the standard of the Malaysian singles," said Ganga.

"We have been interested in Hendrawan for some time but only made a serious approach in March but he was tied with his duties until the Sudirman Cup. He has already resigned from PBSI and will start with us on July 1."

Ganga added: "We are looking at utilising his expertise especially for the 2012 London Olympics and we will leave it to national singles head coach Rashid Sidek to short list the players who will work with Hendrawan.

"Hendrawan will probably be in charge of a mixture of elite back-up and back-up shuttlers or he could even be utilised in the women's singles department."

Hendrawan, the 2000 Sydney Olympics silver medallist and 2001 world champion, has been guiding the likes of Sony Dwi Kuncoro and Simon Santoso since 2005 and was instrumental in guiding Maria Kristin Yulianti to the women's singles bronze medal in last year's Beijing Olympics.

Hendrawan is known for his systematic style of coaching which came about after he obtained a degree in business management before turning to coaching in 2003.

Elite back-up players like Liew Daren, Tan Chun Seang, Chong Wei Feng and Arif Latif have stagnated of late and this could be the targeted group Hendrawan will most likely work with.


http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Tuesday/Sport/2560479/Article/pppull_index_html

[jasonmarc]

i think Misbun & Rashid is doing a decent job....

Yes, thats why Hebdrawan will be in charge on the back-ups......for near future.......

What a great news for MAS......Hendrawan was a great player, and a great Coach as well..........Welcome to Malaysia.......Hendrawan....:D:D:D

[ckloo]

Ex-world champ Hendrawan to chart singles players’ success



http://thestar.com.my/archives/2009/5/19/sports/s_pg58hendrawan.jpg
KUALA LUMPUR: Malaysia have hired former world champion Hendrawan of Indonesia to help revive the fortunes of the country’s singles players.
And the 37-year-old Hendrawan will officially start work with the national team in July.
He will be the third reputable Indonesian to be part of the team to chart the fortunes of Malaysian badminton.
Rexy Mainaky is the current chief coach of the doubles players and Indra Gunawan was the singles coach of the Malaysian men’s team in 2001 and 2002.
Hendrawan will work with national singles chief coach Rashid Sidek to find solutions to unearth more singles talent and to produce world-beaters.
Currently, there is a wide gap in standard between world No. 1 Lee Chong Wei and the rest of the men’s elite and back-up players while Wong Mew Choo and Julia Wong are the only two Malaysian female players thus far to have attained world status.
The Badminton Association of Malaysia (BAM) secretary, P. Ganga Rao, confirmed yesterday that Malaysia had engaged the service of Hendrawan.
“We are happy that our deal with Hendrawan has come through. The BAM have been quite concerned with the critical situation in the singles. It is our hope that he will be able to help us to strengthen our singles department,” he said.
The BAM had been eyeing Hendrawan for quite some time but they were only able to get the 2001 world champion to sign on the dotted lines without problems after he quit as a coach with the All-Indonesia Badminton Association (PBSI) at the end of March.
Hendrawan, however, has to fulfil his obligations with Indonesia at the just concluded Sudirman Cup in Guangzhou and also the upcoming Indonesian Open (June 16-21).
Ganga added that the BAM would finalise the players to come under the charge of Hendrawan soon.
“With Hendrawan in, we will have a strong coaching team in the singles department. The coaches will now have to come together and decide on who will be placed under the care of Hendrawan,” said Ganga.
Besides Rashid, the other singles coaches of the national players are Misbun Sidek and Teh Seu Bock.
Misbun has four elite players under his charge — Chong Wei, Mohd Hafiz Hashim, Kuan Beng Hong and Mew Choo.
Seu Bock handles women’s players Julia, Lydia Cheah and S. Stephanie Shalini while Rashid deals with four back-up men’s players — Tan Chun Seang. Mohd Arif Abdul Latif, Liew Daren and Chong Wei Feng.
It is learnt that Hafiz and Beng Hong are likely to be the two main players to be placed under Hendrawan.
Ganga said that Malaysia hold high regards on the credibility of Hendrawan.
“He has done wonders with the current Indonesian men’s and women’s singles players. He is knowledgable and is a well-spoken man. He is modest despite all the major achievements as a player and coach. We are looking forward to a great partnership with Hendrawan,” he said.
Besides Hendrawan’s exploits in the individual championships, he is also known as a great team player.
Hendrawan spoiled Malaysia’s party in the 2002 Thomas Cup Finals in China when he defeated Mohd Roslin Hashim in the deciding fifth match of the final tie.
Probably, with Hendrawan now on the Malaysian side, there is greater hope that Malaysia, who will host the Thomas Cup Finals next year, will be able to regain the title last won in Kuala Lumpur in 1992.

[skchen]

Ex-world champ Hendrawan to chart singles players’ success



http://thestar.com.my/archives/2009/5/19/sports/s_pg58hendrawan.jpg
KUALA LUMPUR: Malaysia have hired former world champion Hendrawan of Indonesia to help revive the fortunes of the country’s singles players.
And the 37-year-old Hendrawan will officially start work with the national team in July.
He will be the third reputable Indonesian to be part of the team to chart the fortunes of Malaysian badminton.
Rexy Mainaky is the current chief coach of the doubles players and Indra Gunawan was the singles coach of the Malaysian men’s team in 2001 and 2002.
Hendrawan will work with national singles chief coach Rashid Sidek to find solutions to unearth more singles talent and to produce world-beaters.
Currently, there is a wide gap in standard between world No. 1 Lee Chong Wei and the rest of the men’s elite and back-up players while Wong Mew Choo and Julia Wong are the only two Malaysian female players thus far to have attained world status.
The Badminton Association of Malaysia (BAM) secretary, P. Ganga Rao, confirmed yesterday that Malaysia had engaged the service of Hendrawan.
“We are happy that our deal with Hendrawan has come through. The BAM have been quite concerned with the critical situation in the singles. It is our hope that he will be able to help us to strengthen our singles department,” he said.
The BAM had been eyeing Hendrawan for quite some time but they were only able to get the 2001 world champion to sign on the dotted lines without problems after he quit as a coach with the All-Indonesia Badminton Association (PBSI) at the end of March.
Hendrawan, however, has to fulfil his obligations with Indonesia at the just concluded Sudirman Cup in Guangzhou and also the upcoming Indonesian Open (June 16-21).
Ganga added that the BAM would finalise the players to come under the charge of Hendrawan soon.
“With Hendrawan in, we will have a strong coaching team in the singles department. The coaches will now have to come together and decide on who will be placed under the care of Hendrawan,” said Ganga.
Besides Rashid, the other singles coaches of the national players are Misbun Sidek and Teh Seu Bock.
Misbun has four elite players under his charge — Chong Wei, Mohd Hafiz Hashim, Kuan Beng Hong and Mew Choo.
Seu Bock handles women’s players Julia, Lydia Cheah and S. Stephanie Shalini while Rashid deals with four back-up men’s players — Tan Chun Seang. Mohd Arif Abdul Latif, Liew Daren and Chong Wei Feng.
It is learnt that Hafiz and Beng Hong are likely to be the two main players to be placed under Hendrawan.
Ganga said that Malaysia hold high regards on the credibility of Hendrawan.
“He has done wonders with the current Indonesian men’s and women’s singles players. He is knowledgable and is a well-spoken man. He is modest despite all the major achievements as a player and coach. We are looking forward to a great partnership with Hendrawan,” he said.
Besides Hendrawan’s exploits in the individual championships, he is also known as a great team player.
Hendrawan spoiled Malaysia’s party in the 2002 Thomas Cup Finals in China when he defeated Mohd Roslin Hashim in the deciding fifth match of the final tie.
Probably, with Hendrawan now on the Malaysian side, there is greater hope that Malaysia, who will host the Thomas Cup Finals next year, will be able to regain the title last won in Kuala Lumpur in 1992.

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It is indeed good news that Hendrawan has been appointed as a singles coach for Malaysia with effect from July 1st.
He was a great player with excellent credentials and a gentleman and this could be 'exploited' by his Malaysian charges who may be less than fully disciplined and committed. Hendrawan must therefore adopt a no-nonsense approach with the Malaysian charges and take disciplinary measures when required. Otherwise the sad situation of players getting away with their shenanigans will persist and Malaysia will have to continue relying on one or two singles players in competitions. These one or two singles players are good because they are motivated, disciplined, committed and train hard and do not depend much on their coaches. Just watch the video of LCW training to stay competitive.

The presence of Hendrawan will also be good for Rexy.

:):):):):)


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[K Genetics]

We welcome Hendrawan!!!

[Jagdpanther]

How long is the contract period, BTW?

[The Boxer]

I think having Hendrawan is a good move by BAM.

[extremenanopowe]

ok kawan... whip them hard. No blood no gain... haha. ;)

[eaglehelang]

How long is the contract period, BTW?

2 years, my friend. During that time, Hendrawan can see if he likes it in Malaysia, whether he can handle the politics, etc. But I reckon he would have asked Rexy for a brief of those expects.;)


ok kawan... whip them hard. No blood no gain... haha. ;)
Wah, really suit your nick, extreme. Welcoming note to new coach also extreme.:D:D:D

[Oldhand]

Hendrawan brings with him the legacy of one of the world's greatest ever badminton players - Tang 'The Thing' Xian-hu :)

If Hendrawan manages to find a new youngster in Malaysia, that boy/girl stands to benefit enormously. I wonder though if the much-politicised BAM will let him do his own brand of talent spotting in earnest :rolleyes:

[Zabee]

all the best for Hendrawan..

[drifit]

all the best for Hendrawan..
it should be..... all the best to MAS players ;)

[Zabee]

i wonder if Kuan B H & Hafiz will be under him like what the star reported...

[kwun]

Hendrawan is contracted with BAM for a period of two years.

Hendrawan said the main reason is that he feel he needs a better income level to support his family. BAM apparently is paying him 5x the income he is currently receiving from PBSI.

interesting now that there are two world champion level Indonesian coaches in Malaysia.

the exodus from PBSI continues...

[Zabee]

if Hendrawan still stay in Indonesia he needs to have 2 job..

[OneToughBirdie]

I commend BAM initiative to improve MAS baddy, BAM has to do something and hiring the best coaches to scout/train future players is in the right direction, Hendrawan/Rexy are good additions...just hope politics doesn't screw it up and leave them alone..with the current MAS men and women lineup, after LCW and WMC said their bye, bye...MAS baddy will be headed into the wilderness and we can forget about wining TC/UC/Sudirman/WC/OLY, instead going for East Timor, Tibet Open:D:p
As for Indonesian fans upset with Rexy and Hendrawan going to MAS, just chill out, helping out your neighbors to get better is a noble and wonderful gesture..share, share-la! after all, what are friends for?:D:p;)

[Zabee]

the spirits of asean.......

[koo_fan]

Hendrawan/Rexy are good additions...just hope politics doesn't screw it up and leave them alone.

Same hope here. I really hope that Hendrawan can do his job well, without unnecessary interruption.
Ok, shall wait for the next MAS top single player. The pride that Indo can take is, our man found him! Good luck.

[Zabee]

well he has a family so be it money factor or otherwise .....only Hendrawan can answer it..

[OneToughBirdie]

the spirits of asean.......

the spirits of ASEAN and AFTA;):D:pTo our INA neighbors, MAS is only 'pinjam' (borrow) both Rexy and Hendrawan for the time being...but has no intention of ever 'pulang balik' (return) any time soon...I am sure INA can find better coaches and then MAS will raid them as well...now, if only INA can find the next young TH, hmmm...something to think about:D:p

[ctjcad]

i wonder if Kuan B H & Hafiz will be under him like what the star reported...

Ex-world champ Hendrawan to chart singles players’ success
...
It is learnt that Hafiz and Beng Hong are likely to be the two main players to be placed under Hendrawan.
...

It's made public in the Msian press :

BAM hires Hendrawan
...
"Hendrawan will probably be in charge of a mixture of elite back-up and back-up shuttlers or he could even be utilised in the women's singles department."
...
Elite back-up players like Liew Daren, Tan Chun Seang, Chong Wei Feng and Arif Latif have stagnated of late and this could be the targeted group Hendrawan will most likely work with.
...
..yes, welcome to BAM, coach Hendrawan. Boy, if coaching for the INA squad has been a struggle, wait til he sees and experiences his new role of coaching HH and KBH...Misbun and Rashid: "Thank you Hendrawan for taking those 2 players off of our hands"...http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/39.gif;)
*Looks like BAM is serious abt their chances at next yr's Thomas Cup.

[eaglehelang]

..yes, welcome to BAM, coach Hendrawan. Boy, if coaching for the INA squad has been a struggle, wait til he sees and experiences his new role of coaching HH and KBH...Misbun and Rashid: "Thank you Hendrawan for taking those 2 players off of our hands"...http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/39.gif;)
*Looks like BAM is serious abt their chances at next yr's Thomas Cup.
Ctjcad, so naughty, LOL.:p Misbun'll be glad to have Hafiz off his hands(if it really happens), after so many years, he at wits end trying to revive Hafiz's career.

Btw, anyone knows how tall Hendrawan is? Cos today's article focus on his success as player despite his lack of height, he doesnt look that short on tv.
http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Wednesday/Sport/2561418/Article/index_html

[huangkwokhau]

Hendrawan is contracted with BAM for a period of two years.

Hendrawan said the main reason is that he feel he needs a better income level to support his family. BAM apparently is paying him 5x the income he is currently receiving from PBSI.

interesting now that there are two world champion level Indonesian coaches in Malaysia.

the exodus from PBSI continues...
The salary is more thn 5 times...could be one of the most expensive coach in the world..of course, BAM is not the only paying his salary..

I know Hendrawan..very tough decision for him...

[scann]

The salary is more thn 5 times...could be one of the most expensive coach in the world..of course, BAM is not the only paying his salary..

I know Hendrawan..very tough decision for him...

But the tough decision already made. At least he has the chance to bring back the Thomas Cup next year for Malaysia. Imagine the awards he will receive. Citizenship, Perdana, House, and more $$$$. 5x become 500x. He made a right choice.

[gemini12]

i hope BAM will make a wise move to put the elite back up under Hendrawan especially players like Liew Daren, Tan CS, Chong Wei Fung and maybe Chan Kwong Beng. Ladies Single it will be good if Lydia Cheah is placed under him

[OneToughBirdie]

The salary is more thn 5 times...could be one of the most expensive coach in the world..of course, BAM is not the only paying his salary..

I know Hendrawan..very tough decision for him...

Maybe, we are comparing RM to rupees. Now jokes aside...let's be serious that with Hendrawan on board, MAS can shoot for TC next year, that would be wishful thinking:rolleyes:...Hendrawan is not gonna perform miracle like some kind of messiah to turn around the current batch of MAS MS players into superstars in one year...to win TC any team must beat CHN and CHN is so darn far ahead in terms of talent, etc...winning TC is not gonna happen unless of course you have XBall again making reckless predictions with his heart tattooed with a MAS flag;):D:pStill BAM has again done her part with deep pocket and that I applaud BAM for trying...to win TC next year, you need more than Hendrawan and Rexy, you need God's help:D

[OneToughBirdie]

I said before Sudirman started, the cup was engraved with CHN players' names and CHN went on undefeated...with TC still one year away, even with Hendrawan on board, I say the same thing i.e. TC is engraved with CHN players, only question is will BCL be in the lineup?...as for Uber, that is a foregone conclusion, everyone is playing bridesmaid. Of course I would like to be proven wrong and see MAS win, but not likely next year;)

[george@chongwei]

i really hope mas back up ms can improve more under him:rolleyes:
whatever it is, the most important thing is still the player themselves, the coach is there just to give advice and tips;)

[ctjcad]

Ctjcad, so naughty, LOL.:p Misbun'll be glad to have Hafiz off his hands(if it really happens), after so many years, he at wits end trying to revive Hafiz's career.
...
..well, ya know, i think Misbun wants to save the stress of losing his beautiful lush hair and as you know, Hendrawan's locks have basically disappeared...;)

Teasing aside, i do hope MAS & BAM's players will benefit from Hendrawan's presence & tutelage. At the very least, he'll expose those unknown weakness of INA players to the MAS players..;)

[jasonmarc]

But the tough decision already made. At least he has the chance to bring back the Thomas Cup next year for Malaysia. Imagine the awards he will receive. Citizenship, Perdana, House, and more $$$$. 5x become 500x. He made a right choice.



Maybe he can become ' Dato' Hendrawan '.......:D:D:D

[eaglehelang]

Maybe, we are comparing RM to rupees. Now jokes aside...let's be serious that with Hendrawan on board, MAS can shoot for TC next year, that would be wishful thinking:rolleyes:...Hendrawan is not gonna perform miracle like some kind of messiah to turn around the current batch of MAS MS players into superstars in one year...to win TC any team must beat CHN and CHN is so darn far ahead in terms of talent, etc...winning TC is not gonna happen unless of course you have XBall again making reckless predictions with his heart tattooed with a MAS flag;):D:pStill BAM has again done her part with deep pocket and that I applaud BAM for trying...to win TC next year, you need more than Hendrawan and Rexy, you need God's help:D

Errr, actually BAM said having Hendrawan is for 2012 OG preparations. (hopefully Hendrawan wouldnt run off after 2 yrs like some of his predecessors). I think Rashid said they hope to beef up the youngsters to qualify for 2012 OG- to accompany LCW lah, by then WCH, LTS, Hafiz,etc retired already.;)
And of course to get someone that can take over from LCW after that.

Actually when I read the news, I was surprised cos BAM's supposed to be on tight budget, I thought they freeze all hiring.

[Jagdpanther]

Actually when I read the news, I was surprised cos BAM's supposed to be on tight budget, I thought they freeze all hiring.

Maybe Malaysian gov't donate a little to BAM.
Got enough cash to fly astronaut into outer space, why can't pay Hendrawan?
Small matter la.:p

[koo_fan]

Maybe Malaysian gov't donate a little to BAM.
Got enough cash to fly astronaut into outer space, why can't pay Hendrawan?
Small matter la.:p
aiyaa ..The story's different now. You need to answer everything.. Every single penny la.

[eaglehelang]

Maybe Malaysian gov't donate a little to BAM.
Got enough cash to fly astronaut into outer space, why can't pay Hendrawan?
Small matter la.:p

I mean ah - When going for SUdirman CUp, BAM say cash strapped, cannot bring many2 players,they brought only 10. 1 got injured while battling, left 9 to battle, some battle 2 times in 1 day, can faint.:( THey say lack budget, players must go less tourneys this year, then....
but perhaps you're right, maybe it came from "special allocation for urgent need" :p

[limsy]

they always say 1 and do b,u dont know?:rolleyes:

[ants]

what bigger picture??bigger picture for you malaysians, maybe...but certainly not us Indonesians. yes, by any luck if hendrawan manages to produce a world champ, the glory would still be credited to mas and ONE Indonesian...not all of us. Moreover what does that leave us Indonesians?no world champ for us then?

Hendrawan has been around in INA for sometime. You do have a World Champ and an Olympic Gold medalist. AS for Malaysia, we have none yet. If when we have a world champ and a Gold medalist because of Hendrawan. He will be remembered as the Coach that delivers his goods. Yes i do agree that the glory will go to a certain player. But if Hendrawan is one of the main factors that deliver us the goods. We Malaysian will remember him for sure.

[ants]

The salary is more thn 5 times...could be one of the most expensive coach in the world..of course, BAM is not the only paying his salary..

I know Hendrawan..very tough decision for him...

Most expensive badminton coach i agree. And he is staying near Rexy's place too and that place cost a bomb as well. Im pretty sure he will make himself feel at home in Malaysia.

Hard decision yes, but you gotta do what you gotta do. Let go of something good for something GREAT.

[OneToughBirdie]

Errr, actually BAM said having Hendrawan is for 2012 OG preparations. (hopefully Hendrawan wouldnt run off after 2 yrs like some of his predecessors). I think Rashid said they hope to beef up the youngsters to qualify for 2012 OG- to accompany LCW lah, by then WCH, LTS, Hafiz,etc retired already.;)
And of course to get someone that can take over from LCW after that.

Actually when I read the news, I was surprised cos BAM's supposed to be on tight budget, I thought they freeze all hiring.

Thanks for correction Eagle, I must have read somewhere that the goal is to win TC next year in MAS...Then getting Hendrawan to prepare for the next generation of players to take over is a good move...I was thinking that to win TC next year, MAs would need a young Hendrawan and Rexy as players at their prime, not as coaches, LCW and need Ricky too (to play with Rexy), KKK/TBH and even then, it is neck to neck against the current CHN lineup, no guarantee of winning over CHN. TC next year is already owned by CHN.

[cheekygen]

A pleasant surprise to hear that Hendrawan is being hired by BAM to revive the back-up squad after the overated coaches fail to do wonders to them but still selfishly keep the players to themselves. What's the difference now in hiring Hendrawan when Li Mao requested to coach 1/2 of the potential youngsters? Luckily Hendrawan has a good friend here to guide him through the politic 101 in BAM. Hiring the best coaches in the world is not going to solve the problem in the long term. They should examine the whole badminton development in the grass root level and also internally/external factors in the state associations & BAM.

Implementing coaching license in badminton and focusing on sport science is a sound plan but what is the use for educating the coaches in sport science for school, private and state level but not the national level? Isn't it contradicting with their purpose and intention when they hire a foreign coaches without the sports science knowledge? This is how the Malaysian brain works.

Having said that, I believe Hendrawan will make a difference to the men's team. According to NST, Hendrawan is the last resort -

"Hendrawan is known as an excellent worker, especially with lesser gifted players and he himself is an example of how well a player with a small physique can be so successful on the international stage.

"Hendrawan will definitely offer something new for the players. The majority of the our back-up players don't have the advantage of size so we hope that he (Hendrawan) will be able to relate his experience and pass on his effective training methods.

Good Luck to Hendrawan! Expect to handle some lesser talented players and do a miracle.

[OneToughBirdie]

All the positives getting Hendrawan, salute to BAM for this move...except it costs reportedly oodles of $$$ to get him but then again, who ever said winning is cheap, you need to pay big to play with the big boys in the big leaque...now if only the govt leave them alone to do their thingie and the media/public give them time, and lots of prayers from MAS fans for a miracle...and to our INA neighbors, if Hendrawan works out, I am 100% very SURE MAS fans will thank you very muchy...and if INA find another TH and send him over to MAS, MAS will say a bigger thank you muchy muchy...hehehe!!!:D:p;)

[Zabee]

sometimes money doesn't buy success

[ants]

sometimes money doesn't buy success

I agree with you 100%. Its not the money that bring success.

[Zabee]

if anyone still doubt this fact..Schevchenko, Robinho are among the flops in epl .......

[ctjcad]

Most expensive badminton coach i agree. And he is staying near Rexy's place too and that place cost a bomb as well. Im pretty sure he will make himself feel at home in Malaysia.
...
..Rexy must've done some pretty impressive bargaining to sell the idea to BAM..Imagine, Hendrawan who hasn't even start his tenure in BAM will receive more than, if not equal to that of what Rexy receives..:confused::cool:

Ex-world champ Hendrawan to chart singles players’ success
...
Probably, with Hendrawan now on the Malaysian side, there is greater hope that Malaysia, who will host the Thomas Cup Finals next year, will be able to regain the title last won in Kuala Lumpur in 1992.

Errr, actually BAM said having Hendrawan is for 2012 OG preparations.
...

Thanks for correction Eagle, I must have read somewhere that the goal is to win TC next year in MAS...
..the last portion of the article above, from post #40, somewhat mentions another possible goal in bringing in Hendrawan..

[huangkwokhau]

Errr, actually BAM said having Hendrawan is for 2012 OG preparations. (hopefully Hendrawan wouldnt run off after 2 yrs like some of his predecessors). I think Rashid said they hope to beef up the youngsters to qualify for 2012 OG- to accompany LCW lah, by then WCH, LTS, Hafiz,etc retired already.;)
And of course to get someone that can take over from LCW after that.

Actually when I read the news, I was surprised cos BAM's supposed to be on tight budget, I thought they freeze all hiring.
Another 3rd party helps BAM pay his salary..BAM, indeed, was desperate to get some coaches..prior to Hermawan, there were few candidates..

[eaglehelang]

..Rexy must've done some pretty impressive bargaining to sell the idea to BAM..Imagine, Hendrawan who hasn't even start his tenure in BAM will receive more than, if not equal to that of what Rexy receives..:confused::cool:

..
I remember reading that Rexy got better pay in England than Msia, England paid in pounds mah, so.. after exchange rates it's more. The reporters were asking Rexy why he still came although England paid him more.

The article on Hendrawan you were refering was from yesterday's NST :
http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Wednesday/Sport/2561418/Article/pppull_index_html


Another 3rd party helps BAM pay his salary..BAM, indeed, was desperate to get some coaches..prior to Hermawan, there were few candidates..
Thanks for the info, this 3rd party really kind. :D

And I must say this Hendrawan knows how to talk to the media. The Msian malay language press asked him why agree to come, he said BAM approached him every year since 2005. He said no, they dont give up, next year ask again. So, the persistency of persuading paid off. He said it very diplomatic so wouldnt offend INA fans, clever guy.
I have the impresssion he will know how to weave his way thru the politics.;)

[ctjcad]

...The article on Hendrawan you were refering was from yesterday's NST :
http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Wednesday/Sport/2561418/Article/pppull_index_html
...
..to a different article (ckloo's post #40) which mentions something abt BAM/MAS plan to target next yr's Thomas Cup as well, per OTB's post (post #75) where he thought he saw that being mentioned.
Your link above has no mention of BAM targeting next yr's TC.

[OneToughBirdie]

sometimes money doesn't buy success


I agree with you 100%. Its not the money that bring success.

With Hendrawan, hopefully he can groom future MAS players and help MAS produce a better team...of course, $$$ cannot buy success...honestly, looking at CHN current lineup and future players coming up, it will be a long time before any country can challenge CHN in Sudirman, TC and UC...what I meant to say is getting Hendrawan is a good move by BAM except for 5X the salary, especially in the economy of today, may be a steep price to pay to play a game but to win or to enhance the chances of winning, I understand there is a price to pay...maybe I should word the phrase "whoever said enhancing the chances of winning is cheap"...Hendrawan and Rexy are coaches, they can coach all they want, if the players cannot deliver, it is futile anyway.

[george@chongwei]

omg..i hope mr yoyo won't be training under hendrawan:(

http://thestar.com.my/sports/story.asp?file=/2009/5/21/sports/3950011&sec=sports

Hafiz hopes to revive sagging career under Hendrawan

By RAJES PAUL

KUALA LUMPUR: Singles shuttler Mohd Hafiz Hashim is ready to begin a new chapter in his badminton career under a new coach for the first time.
After being under the wings of only one coach, Misbun Sidek, for almost a decade, Hafiz said that he had no qualms to seek new fortunes under the guidance of Indonesian Hendrawan.
The Badminton Association of Malaysia (BAM) have hired the former world champion and it is learnt that two seniors players, Hafiz and also Kuan Beng Hong, will come under his charge together with several national back-up shuttlers.
Both Hafiz and Beng Hong have reached a plateau, if not on a slide, in their badminton careers and the 37-year-old Hendrawan could give the duo the lift.
National singles chief coach Rashid Sidek has been given the task to recommend the players to train under Hendrawan, who will report for duty on July 1.
“A decision has not been made but I will give it a try to revive my career if I am placed under Hendrawan. I will follow the BAM’s decision,” said Hafiz.
Hafiz has never benefited from any foreign coach since he came under the charge of Misbun in 2000 while other players, including world No. 1 Lee Chong Wei has had the benefit of training under several coaches with strong credentials, including Denmark’s Morten Frost, Indonesia’s Indra Gunawan and China’s Li Mao.
“It will be a new experience for me to train under Hendrawan. His training style and method may be different. He may be able to help me,” said Hafiz.
The former Nusa Mahsuri player said that Hendrawan, who retired as a player in 2003, would not be a total stranger to him.
“I played against him before and lost the group tie match of the Thomas Cup Finals (in 2002 in Guangzhou). As a player, he is known for his great fighting spirit and skills,” said Hafiz.
“We always greet each other whenever we meet during tournaments. There is a good rapport between him and me.”
In the absence of Misbun, who is currently on a long leave to care for his sick wife, Hafiz has been training under Rashid and is now gearing up for the Pahang Open in Kuantan from May 26-29.
For the record, Hafiz, who is ranked 29th in the world, has not won a major tournament since his career-best victory at the All-England in 2003.

[jasonmarc]

Better not.......HH and KBH....BAM shd focus on the yougster.....not these two....

enough is enough........no more HH nor KBH......pls no BAM...!

[Zabee]

well it's up to BAM..but i believe Kuan B h , Hafiz, & some back up players will be under him......

[OneToughBirdie]

omg..i hope mr yoyo won't be training under hendrawan:(

http://thestar.com.my/sports/story.asp?file=/2009/5/21/sports/3950011&sec=sports

Hafiz hopes to revive sagging career under Hendrawan

By RAJES PAUL

KUALA LUMPUR: Singles shuttler Mohd Hafiz Hashim is ready to begin a new chapter in his badminton career under a new coach for the first time.
After being under the wings of only one coach, Misbun Sidek, for almost a decade, Hafiz said that he had no qualms to seek new fortunes under the guidance of Indonesian Hendrawan.
The Badminton Association of Malaysia (BAM) have hired the former world champion and it is learnt that two seniors players, Hafiz and also Kuan Beng Hong, will come under his charge together with several national back-up shuttlers.
Both Hafiz and Beng Hong have reached a plateau, if not on a slide, in their badminton careers and the 37-year-old Hendrawan could give the duo the lift.
National singles chief coach Rashid Sidek has been given the task to recommend the players to train under Hendrawan, who will report for duty on July 1.
“A decision has not been made but I will give it a try to revive my career if I am placed under Hendrawan. I will follow the BAM’s decision,” said Hafiz.
Hafiz has never benefited from any foreign coach since he came under the charge of Misbun in 2000 while other players, including world No. 1 Lee Chong Wei has had the benefit of training under several coaches with strong credentials, including Denmark’s Morten Frost, Indonesia’s Indra Gunawan and China’s Li Mao.
“It will be a new experience for me to train under Hendrawan. His training style and method may be different. He may be able to help me,” said Hafiz.
The former Nusa Mahsuri player said that Hendrawan, who retired as a player in 2003, would not be a total stranger to him.
“I played against him before and lost the group tie match of the Thomas Cup Finals (in 2002 in Guangzhou). As a player, he is known for his great fighting spirit and skills,” said Hafiz.
“We always greet each other whenever we meet during tournaments. There is a good rapport between him and me.”
In the absence of Misbun, who is currently on a long leave to care for his sick wife, Hafiz has been training under Rashid and is now gearing up for the Pahang Open in Kuantan from May 26-29.
For the record, Hafiz, who is ranked 29th in the world, has not won a major tournament since his career-best victory at the All-England in 2003.

Correct me...I thought it was Roslin who lost to Hendrawan in 2002 TC.

[Amin Khalili]

i wonder if Kuan B H & Hafiz will be under him like what the star reported...
I really want to see that ...

[Zabee]

the answer will be revelead on july 1'st........

[ants]

BAM will let Hendrawan focus on the jrs. HH and KBH is secondary. However since BAM still needs HH and KBH's services. Hendrawan might as well coach them together.

[Zabee]

hence both will be under him..............plus juniors

[eaglehelang]

..to a different article (ckloo's post #40) which mentions something abt BAM/MAS plan to target next yr's Thomas Cup as well, per OTB's post (post #75) where he thought he saw that being mentioned.
Your link above has no mention of BAM targeting next yr's TC.

Ohhh, that one is reporter's speculation. That article was from The Star. Ganga Rao & Rashid was quoted as saying 2012.;)

[ctjcad]

..writer's speculation or not, it was mentioned and that was the article OTB thought he saw it from (i was referencing/pointing to the news article).
*My thought is also similar, in that MAS would plan at least to reach next yr's TC Final Rd. with Hendrawan on board.

[ctjcad]

http://thestar.com.my/sports/story.asp?file=/2009/5/21/sports/3950011&sec=sports

Hafiz hopes to revive sagging career under Hendrawan

By RAJES PAUL
...
“I played against him before and lost the group tie match of the Thomas Cup Finals (in 2002 in Guangzhou). As a player, he is known for his great fighting spirit and skills,” said Hafiz.
...

Correct me...I thought it was Roslin who lost to Hendrawan in 2002 TC.
..perhaps Hafiz was being a nice guy & trying to cover Roslin's butt..;)
No, but tease aside, HH's memory is still good. Roslin played & lost to Hendrawan in the Final Rd., not in the group tie match during the 2002 TC..
http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/2002/05/20/stories/2002052005242300.htm

[Jagdpanther]

Thanks for the info, this 3rd party really kind. :D

Who knows, this 3rd party is Cik Najib or even... His Majesty the Agong himself? ;):eek::cool:

[Amin Khalili]

Who know Hendrawan will get Datoship .. hahaha

[Dato A]

i think Misbun & Rashid is doing a decent job....

They always proud of DLCW....

Other than that, they are ZERO......

[Zabee]

partly agree Dato' ....it's up the player & coaches (both ) needed to improve if not.. habuk pun takda..

[Dato A]

partly agree Dato' ....it's up the player & coaches (both ) needed to improve if not.. habuk pun takda..

If Misbun and Rashid is doing a decent job, why still hire Hendrawan?

[Zabee]

sory dude, i dunno the answer.....

[koo_fan]

If Misbun and Rashid is doing a decent job, why still hire Hendrawan?
A better question is , why shouldn't we? a'hem, i have no idea how Hendrawan would do better or not. But he's here for a reason. Let us say this is a bad decision once he had failed. Do we got a deal?

[Jagdpanther]

If Misbun and Rashid is doing a decent job, why still hire Hendrawan?
3 is better than 2.

However, too many captains will sink the ship, they say... :p

[OneToughBirdie]

If Misbun and Rashid is doing a decent job, why still hire Hendrawan?

Here it goes...after DLCW retires, MAS baddy will be in a downward spiral and scanning with my telescope, there is no successor to LCW...the current Juniors, ahem, well, going nowhere fast and sinking faster....Rashid, the head coach knows that so Rashid hires Hendrawan so future failure can pin the blame on him and save Rashid's bacon...therefore you cannot blame Hendrawan for asking for 5X his INA salary...so if Hendrawan is fired after 2012, he makes 3 x 5 = 15X his INA salary...not bad for a golden parachute...and Hendrawan retires happily and so does Rashid...it is a win-win, except someone got skewed:D :p;)

[jasonmarc]

Yes, i think Rashid refused to let go those back up for Li Mao to train a few years ago.....caused LM to resigned, but funny now Hendrawan is hired to take care of the same batch of players.........with 5x salary.......what is BAM doing......If LM was given some young players to train years ago....maybe now some of them already showing results by now.....I would say...Rashid is a failure, and caused failure in BAM and Malaysia Badminton as well..............because of his selfishness....

[limsy]

Yes, i think Rashid refused to let go those back up for Li Mao to train a few years ago.....caused LM to resigned, but funny now Hendrawan is hired to take care of the same batch of players.........with 5x salary.......what is BAM doing......If LM was given some young players to train years ago....maybe now some of them already showing results by now.....I would say...Rashid is a failure, and caused failure in BAM and Malaysia Badminton as well..............because of his selfishness....

wah!!!:eek:
no comment:rolleyes:

[jasonmarc]

wah!!!:eek:
no comment:rolleyes:

No comment...? :eek:...I tot U have a lot to say about this......:D:D:D

No results from those back-up after so many years = failure ;);)


http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65613&page=16

[chaijk]

I never doubt on the quality of Msia junior players. It's all about their attitude and dedication towards this game. Look at Hafiz, he has good skill but poor attitude and mentality. Not showing any fighting spirit!

Really hope Hendrawan can help Msian junior. Who else can compete with China (in Men's single) if not Msia? Ha.......

[Jagdpanther]

Really hope Hendrawan can help Msian junior. Who else can compete with China (in Men's single) if not Msia? Ha.......
Psst... Maybe your very-very-very close neighbor a little to the south can. ;)

[OneToughBirdie]

Psst... Maybe your very-very-very close neighbor a little to the south can. ;)

You mean Singapore?:p:D;)

[koo_fan]

Psst... Maybe your very-very-very close neighbor a little to the south can. ;)

A'hem. Let us see what you can do. Good luck!
Mas and INdo, if joined together, could form a good team.

[jasonmarc]

A'hem. Let us see what you can do. Good luck!
Mas and INdo, if joined together, could form a good team.

Yes, stronger team.....but still can not beat the mighty Chn team.......in Mixed Team event...:o....but in Thomas Cup....sure yes !....;);)

[eaglehelang]

3 is better than 2.

However, too many captains will sink the ship, they say... :p
Supposed is - not enuf coaches. Misbun himself training 6 to 7 players.
There're 4 coaches : Rashid, Misbun, Teh SB, Misbun's assistant - for like 20 players.

In INA, Hendrawan focus on 3, come here sure they make him work hard with the hard cases.

On your other post, yup, Msia's friendly neighbour down south also been trying to get players & coaches, CHN has gone there, INA has gone there......:p:D


H..Rashid, the head coach knows that so Rashid hires Hendrawan so future failure can pin the blame on him and save Rashid's bacon...therefore you cannot blame Hendrawan for asking for 5X his INA salary...:D :p;)
LOL, LOL, OneTB, you really funny these few days.


You mean Singapore?:p:D;)
Hehe, no need say also know mah.;);)

[skchen]

Yes, i think Rashid refused to let go those back up for Li Mao to train a few years ago.....caused LM to resigned, but funny now Hendrawan is hired to take care of the same batch of players.........with 5x salary.......what is BAM doing......If LM was given some young players to train years ago....maybe now some of them already showing results by now.....I would say...Rashid is a failure, and caused failure in BAM and Malaysia Badminton as well..............because of his selfishness....

__________________________________________________ ___________

I view Li Mao as one of the best singles coaches ever.
He trained LCW to be a world beater and would have done the same for the Malysian juniors if not for his premature resignation.
He moved to Korea and was instrumental in revitalizing LHI's career who went on to win a few tournaments. He was also a semi-finalist in the 2008 Olympics.
PSH has also gained a lot under him and he was a finalist in the 2009 Malaysian Open. I would'nt be surprised at all if PSH wins 1 or 2 tournaments this year. The other Korean juniors have also benefitted. Cheers to Korea.

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D


__________________________________________________ ______________

[Amin Khalili]

__________________________________________________ ___________

I view Li Mao as one of the best singles coaches ever.
He trained LCW to be a world beater and would have done the same for the Malysian juniors if not for his premature resignation.
He moved to Korea and was instrumental in revitalizing LHI's career who went on to win a few tournaments. He was also a semi-finalist in the 2008 Olympics.
PSH has also gained a lot under him and he was a finalist in the 2009 Malaysian Open. I would'nt be surprised at all if PSH wins 1 or 2 tournaments this year. The other Korean juniors have also benefitted. Cheers to Korea.

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D


__________________________________________________ ______________
Cheers To Korea!

[Dato A]

A better question is , why shouldn't we? a'hem, i have no idea how Hendrawan would do better or not. But he's here for a reason. Let us say this is a bad decision once he had failed. Do we got a deal?

I see nothing special about Hendrawan when he was in-charged of INA team.

We do have coach that are capable to trained up player like DLCW.

So, my question is, why still hire Hendrawan, since we have World's No.1's player coach, and Hendrawan is not that convincing as refer to his past track record as INA coach, as well as his career as player?

BAM's expenses = taxpayer money.

[limsy]

__________________________________________________ ___________
PSH has also gained a lot under him and he was a finalist in the 2009 Malaysian Open. __________________________________________________ ______________

psst,psh already mo finalist in 2004;):p

[george@chongwei]

So, my question is, why still hire Hendrawan, since we have World's No.1's player coach, and Hendrawan is not that convincing as refer to his past track record as INA coach, as well as his career as player?

BAM's expenses = taxpayer money.
your question should be asked directly to BAM .. u should send them a letter.
no use post in here;)

[skchen]

psst,psh already mo finalist in 2004;):p

__________________________________________________ ______________


PSH will be a finalist again and maybe a winner also. He has what it takes to be on that high pedestal and Li Mao is the catalyst.


:D:D:D:D:D:D


__________________________________________________ _______________

[Dato A]

your question should be asked directly to BAM .. u should send them a letter.
no use post in here;)

In the case like this, we shall ask Kwun to close shop.:rolleyes:

It would be wise if you keep silence, rather that reply other people's post without any point.

[eaglehelang]

......

So, my question is, why still hire Hendrawan, since we have World's No.1's player coach, and Hendrawan is not that convincing as refer to his past track record as INA coach, as well as his career as player?

BAM's expenses = taxpayer money.

In reference to the underlined portion, Hauge did post a few pages back that a 3rd party is helping BAM pay Hendrawan's salary. As whether that 3rd part is related to government (i.e. taxpayer $$$) or private, you can try PM hauge to ask, I dunno if can be revealed. In the media, even this part abt 3rd party is not revealed.

As to why, BAM is desperate for more coaches, their reason is not enuf coaches. a) If Hendrawan is not considered impressive, then how about Li Mao? Why they hired Li Mao last time in 2005? If I not mistaken, while in INA,Hendrawan also trained Maria K, the OG bronze medalist.

b) Of course they can get Msian to coach but the best results as player(retired) is already a coach = Rashid. Other Msian MS, even less impressive their record as player, WCH & LCW not yet retire.


Other than that, BAM needs to show they doing something abt the worrying condition of MS dept. Misbun's been around, but has too many players to train. Rashid's been training the back up for years, nothing impressive.
Teh is assistant coach only, busy with WS, not only train Julia & Lydia, the other back up WS also. Misbun's assistant I dont even remember his name, he just help2 only.

So, bring in someone else lor, if not, will look like BAM sitting there only, not pro-active, now they can say they got do something to solve the problem,hehe. ;):p

[george@chongwei]

In the case like this, we shall ask Kwun to close shop.:rolleyes:

It would be wise if you keep silence, rather that reply other people's post without any point.
What we discussing here actually can be answered.There's no need to ask kwun to close shop. your question has already been answered in another post. If you wanna know more specific, kindly ask BAM. EG: If asking about what type of racket or string tension does a player use or what tournament they won/their achievement, of course stuffs like that can be answered. But you are Dato, and we are just small minnion people and just can answer some simple question that we know through the internet and sometimes through trusted source.(so very hard to answer accurately and the truth sometimes) I think u should be more easy to communicate or ask the inside people in BAM such as Dato Nadzmi, Kenny Goh, Ganga rao Or Rashid since you are dato:rolleyes: With that, u should be able to have the answer of your question that being posted here more accurate or more detailed.

It will be wise if you can keep yourself silence 1st before pointing any fingers to others without knowing the truth.

[ye333]

At that time LiMao was also in charge of Korean MS as far as I remember. Major achievements are SSM's 2003 WC bronze and 2004 OG silver, as well as winning the 2003 Sudirman cup (LHI delivered a crucial point).


psst,psh already mo finalist in 2004;):p

[limsy]

At that time LiMao was also in charge of Korean MS as far as I remember. Major achievements are SSM's 2003 WC bronze and 2004 OG silver, as well as winning the 2003 Sudirman cup (LHI delivered a crucial point).

yes,i know
li mao is a good one:(

[limsy]

No comment...? :eek:...I tot U have a lot to say about this......:D:D:D

No results from those back-up after so many years = failure ;);)


http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65613&page=16

so what?
i cant help
who's fault not to let li mao train them? me?:rolleyes:

[cooler]

yes,i know
li mao is a good one:(
li mao can rattle all the chinese players too just by sitting on the coaching chair;), something hendrawan, rexy or boo bong park can't do:p
It's like having a scarecrow around the badminton courts:D

remember 08 KO? when LHI won over LD:D
... the li mao factor:p

[Loh]

At that time LiMao was also in charge of Korean MS as far as I remember. Major achievements are SSM's 2003 WC bronze and 2004 OG silver, as well as winning the 2003 Sudirman cup (LHI delivered a crucial point).

And Li Mao is not known to be the best player during his prime! So it does not necessarily mean that only the best players can make the best coaches. Neither is Misbun or Rashid for that matter. But can Hendrawan be the exception? ;)

[Dato A]

What we discussing here actually can be answered.There's no need to ask kwun to close shop. your question has already been answered in another post. If you wanna know more specific, kindly ask BAM. EG: If asking about what type of racket or string tension does a player use or what tournament they won/their achievement, of course stuffs like that can be answered. But you are Dato, and we are just small minnion people and just can answer some simple question that we know through the internet and sometimes through trusted source.(so very hard to answer accurately and the truth sometimes) I think u should be more easy to communicate or ask the inside people in BAM such as Dato Nadzmi, Kenny Goh, Ganga rao Or Rashid since you are dato:rolleyes: With that, u should be able to have the answer of your question that being posted here more accurate or more detailed.

It will be wise if you can keep yourself silence 1st before pointing any fingers to others without knowing the truth.

Thanks for your reply (although = nothing).

[george@chongwei]

Thanks for your reply (although = nothing).
thanks for your compliment.

[Jagdpanther]

In football, we have The Emperor, Franz Beckenbauer, himself has achieved World Cup both as a player and a coach.

In badminton??? :)

[Loh]

In football, we have The Emperor, Franz Beckenbauer, himself has achieved World Cup both as a player and a coach.

In badminton??? :)

"The Thing" comes to mind!

What about "YY"? :D

[ctjcad]

...In INA, Hendrawan focus on 3, come here sure they make him work hard with the hard cases.
...
..well, they better make him work hard esp. with the amt of salary he's getting.;)
Hendrawan is pretty smart, too. In INA, he might've worked really hard but wouldn't get the same appreciation ($$ wise).

[skchen]

li mao can rattle all the chinese players too just by sitting on the coaching chair;), something hendrawan, rexy or boo bong park can't do:p
It's like having a scarecrow around the badminton courts:D

remember 08 KO? when LHI won over LD:D
... the li mao factor:p

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You are absolutely right that Li Mao's presence can rattle the Chinese.
He is just like a scarecrow to the Chinese. Ha, ha!
The other coaches are just too mild to bother them.

:D:D:D:D:D:D


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[jasonmarc]

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You are absolutely right that Li Mao's presence can rattle the Chinese.
He is just like a scarecrow to the Chinese. Ha, ha!
The other coaches are just too mild to bother them.

:D:D:D:D:D:D


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Yes, LM has this psychological things on LYB's mind......i remember in WC 06 QF.....when LCW VS BCL......LM was LCW's coach at that time......LYB was just cant sit and relax......he was so uneasy at the court side and even shouted things like 'breaking his legs'.........it was funny !......Then the same thing happened in KO 08.............:D:D:D...LOL

[Zabee]

so Li M was the man to stop that arrogant Li Y B ........

[eaglehelang]

The Star Online (http://thestar.com.my/default.asp) > Sports
Monday June 1, 2009

Hendrawan aims to take Malaysia to greater heights in badminton


FORMER world champion Hen drawan received hundreds of responses from his disappointed fans in Facebook when news broke on his appointment as the singles coach of the Malaysian national team. And even his players could not accept it. The Indonesian tells Starsport’s RAJES PAUL on the difficult decision that he had to take and the new challenges that he is ready to face with the Malaysian team.

AN offer to coach Malaysia is nothing new to me. In fact, it dated back to 2005 during the Thomas Cup qualifying tournament in India.
http://thestar.com.my/archives/2009/6/1/sports/s_58hendrawan.jpg Follow the rules: Hendrawan, however, wants the players to treat him like a friend when they are not in training.

Then, I was just two years into coaching the Indonesian women’s singles team.
It was Rexy (Mainaky), who approached me first. He asked whether I was interested to coach Malaysia.

That was the start and since then, I have been approached by the Malaysian officials every year until I said yes to them recently.

It took me four years to have the courage to say yes to Malaysia even though I have had offers from Hong Kong, Singapore and Poland.

I could not leave earlier because of my commitment to help the Indonesian team until the Beijing Olympic Games (last August).

I had also started training the men’s singles players in 2007 and my goal was to help Sony (Dwi Kuncoro) and Simon (Santoso) win a medal in Beijing.

My decision to leave did not go down well with the PBSI (All-Indonesia Badminton Federation), my players and the fans.

In my Facebook, fans asked why I was leaving to coach outside Indonesia, especially arch-rivals Malaysia.

The PBSI coaxed me to stay but eventually, they accepted my decision to leave and told me to maintain a good relationship.

Simon was injured during the Korean Open this year and Sony fell to a similar fate during the All-England. I thought that it was the best time to break the news to the players.

I wanted a better future for myself and family. Besides that, I also needed new challenges and the time seemed right to uproot myself from my motherland.

Time, I think, however, will be against me as I prepare the Malaysian team for two major tournaments next year — the Thomas Cup Finals (in Malaysia) and Asian Games (in Guangzhou).

I have won in every Thomas Cup Finals I competed in with Indonesia (1998, 2000, 2002) and I will work hard to help Malaysia win it this time.

I will have about a year to prepare the team and that will be a big challenge to me. But challenges keep me going and I love to set targets.

As a player, targets drove me to succeed. I like to set a high target and go all out to achieve it. And I expect the same from my players.

I have good intentions and I am sincere to serve Malaysian badminton in the best possible way.

To me, having a good relationship with a player is important. But as a coach, I know where to draw a line.

I expect the players to follow the rules I set during training. But off court, I like to treat them just like a dear friend and vice versa.

I hope language will not be a barrier. In Indonesia, I can have a heart-to-heart talk with the players and they can understand what I say. I hope I will be able to put across my thoughts in the best possible way with the Malaysian players.

I admit, though, I had my anxiety after accepting this job. I was worried of the culture in the badminton circle in Malaysia.

I can handle the high expectations and the spotlight on badminton because it is the same in Indonesia. But I need to understand the different culture in Malaysia. I will do my best to adapt to it.

For now, I have not discussed with Malaysia’s coach Rashid (Sidek) or Ganga (Rao, BAM secretary) on who I will be coaching in Malaysia.

I am currently on a one-month break before I report for duty on July 1. But I plan to bring my family for a holiday in Malaysia from June 7-14.

I will pay the players a visit, especially those in the back-up squad. I will also see the BAM and get more details on who I have to work with.

Like Indonesia, Malaysia too are trying to add depth in the singles department. I will try my best to increase the pool of quality men’s singles players in Malaysia.
It appears difficult but nothing is impossible to me.

http://thestar.com.my/services/printerfriendly.asp?file=/2009/6/1/sports/4021419.asp&sec=sports