Victor BS09 Reviews?

[BennyC]

Alright so I have done some research around BC and have concluded that there was no consolidated review for the Victor BS09. All I have read were comparison's between the 08 and 09, which doesn't really help a lot considering the fact that many people have never even tried the 08.

So the point of this thread is to gather up as much info on just the BS09. Reviews + any info regarding this would be greatly appreciated. In my view, an important factor ( for people who have tried or own the BS09) would be to compare with a yonex racket in terms of stiffness, overall weight, headheavy/headlight/Even balanced, since everyone is familiar with Yonex. If there are any additional info you may have, don't hesitate to leave a post =)

What I would like for BC members NOT TO DO is asking for comparisons to rackets, unless the person who gave a review forgot. I want to keep this strictly to just the BS09. If members keep asking about comparing the BS09 to X racket and Y racket, we will cause this topic to drift away.

We all know that Korea has just been sponsored by Victor, meaning there will be alot of questions regarding this racket ( because LYD is everyones hero :)). But lets just keep this Short, precise and simple.

[deathscythe]

BS09 is a good racquet. It's quite difficult to find them here in KL. It's headlight, 88g (3u&4u available), long shaft, medium flex.

[drifit]

BS09 is a good racquet. It's quite difficult to find them here in KL. It's headlight, 88g (3u&4u available), long shaft, medium flex.
maybe you can give us some reviews on BS08. ;)

[jymbalaya]

maybe you can give us some reviews on BS08. ;)


I am going to assume you are talking about the Bravesword 09 instead.:o
If its head light, i think Imma go try it.:D

[drifit]

I am going to assume you are talking about the Bravesword 09 instead.:o
If its head light, i think Imma go try it.:D
deathscythe has a BS08. and dont let me try it..... :crying:

[issarakaya]

BS09 is even balance...not headlight

[BennyC]

BS09 is a good racquet. It's quite difficult to find them here in KL. It's headlight, 88g (3u&4u available), long shaft, medium flex.

When you say its medium stiff...like are you able to compare that with a racket or were you just reading what it said in catalogs LOL?

[deathscythe]

deathscythe has a BS08. and dont let me try it..... :crying:
Ask ma....how wud i know your cup of tea like :cool:

[deathscythe]

maybe you can give us some reviews on BS08. ;)

Head is heavy but stable. Not feeling a lot of vibration & with the stiffness of the shaft it gives good control. Frame is solid. Overall i feel this racquet is more suitable for single gameplay.

[deathscythe]

BS09 is even balance...not headlight

oops...was looking at the wrong pg of the catalogue :p Sori

[coolcat]

BS09 is an all-rounder racket, it feels slightly heavy hence solid. For offensive players, they could consider the SW31 or 32.

[CYW2006]

bs-09 is abit lighter than 08....
it's a good racket overall...
head light..medium stiff...
if someone like head heavy...can go for sw33 power or bs 08...

[BennyC]

Thank you too all who have contributed to this thread. Greatly appreciated =)

P.S. Keep those posts coming :P

[deathscythe]

bs-09 is abit lighter than 08....
it's a good racket overall...
head light..medium stiff...
if someone like head heavy...can go for sw33 power or bs 08...

A bit lighter? Possibly the impression is influenced by the weight tht are more foced on the head. By right it shud weigh the same unless u took BS09-4u as comparison.

[hduong]

I'm thinking about picking up this racquet on Ebay. Does this look real or fake?

http://cgi.ebay.ca/newest-VICTOR-BS09-badminton-racquet-racket-Korean-team_W0QQitemZ140323180975QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_De faultDomain_0?hash=item20abe9d1af&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1215|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A13 18|301%3A1|293%3A1|294%3A50

[deathscythe]

Well, it looks real to me. Not so sure if there are Victor counterfeit outside but I might be wrong

[thambert]

Im mostly a doubles player n i love being the front man as i luv netting, tapping n some fast driving. Due to my preference, i have always liked my racquets to be headlight or at least balanced so that it allows faster reaction at the net n i dont stand at the back n smash too often.

one fine day, I decided to give bs09 a try since i have been seeing so many top pro doubles player using it. When i got it(4u, medium flex) with the original grip, it did felt slightly heavier n for a person like me who is so used to a headlight racket, it did feel quite head heavy as i swing it. I did feel that i might have bought the wrong racquet at first. I took it for a game with just a new grip over the original one n i was rather suprised. It didnt swing as heavy as i thought at all . Very stable hitting n best of all, very little vibration. Clears, lobs all done with ease n best of all, i actually felt comfortable being the back man n smashing with it! :D

the one little thing that bothered me was the reaction speed. I can block n defend easily with my other headlight racquets but with this racquet, i felt i was slightly slower n it might be due to the fact that its head heavy n im just too used to headlight racquets. so i decided to do some modifications to change the racquet balance to slightly more even balanced as what i do in my tennis. I taped some lead tape on the bare wooden handle of the racquet n experimented with different amounts of lead tape till i got the feel l like n have since been using this modified bs09 for like a month n feeling really satisfied :) some might want to wrap more overgrips instead of using lead tape to reduce the head heavyness( but grip size might become rather big) its up to u. For me i like to the grip size to be smaller so thats why i choose lead tape.

To similar guys like me who likes being the front man in doubles or like fast driving rallies n have been always using a headlight racquet, u can actually give BS09 a try. it will feel very rather head heavy at first but u can try some slight modifications like me. To sum it up, BS09 is a suprisingly good racquet that handles almost all areas rather well especially smash n driving and with the modifications i did, its has become one of my favourite racquet for my doubles games:D

p.s. whether the balance of the racquet is head heavy or head light or even balanced all really depends on the users themselves. Some strong guys used my unmodified bso9 n felt its head light. Hope to see more bs09 users come share their experience :)

[GT0ro]

hey thambert, which racquet did you use before the BS09? i tried out a 3U BS09 but didn't really like it because of the weight.

[BennyC]

I'm thinking about picking up this racquet on Ebay. Does this look real or fake?

http://cgi.ebay.ca/newest-VICTOR-BS09-badminton-racquet-racket-Korean-team_W0QQitemZ140323180975QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_De faultDomain_0?hash=item20abe9d1af&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1215|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A13 18|301%3A1|293%3A1|294%3A50 (http://cgi.ebay.ca/newest-VICTOR-BS09-badminton-racquet-racket-Korean-team_W0QQitemZ140323180975QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_De faultDomain_0?hash=item20abe9d1af&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1215%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C 240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50)

As a matter of fact, i just ordered 3 from that seller. he was extremely friendly, responsive and very professional. He guarantees authenticity. I should be receiving them some time next week. Will let you guys know how it goes.

[BennyC]

hey thambert, which racquet did you use before the BS09? i tried out a 3U BS09 but didn't really like it because of the weight.

Whats wrong with the weight? A little on the light side?

[GT0ro]

a little heavy =P thinking of getting a 4U to try out... and i found it really stiff even though the stiffness rating is more flexible than my 3U SW31... I felt my SW31 was more maneuverable. but it might just be because the BS09 is new and the SW31 is not...

[BennyC]

a little heavy =P thinking of getting a 4U to try out... and i found it really stiff even though the stiffness rating is more flexible than my 3U SW31... I felt my SW31 was more maneuverable. but it might just be because the BS09 is new and the SW31 is not...

LOL you just made my day then!. I was afraid of it not being stiff enough but now i think its going to be stiff enough for my liking =).

[squallyeo]

Im mostly a doubles player n i love being the front man as i luv netting, tapping n some fast driving. Due to my preference, i have always liked my racquets to be headlight or at least balanced so that it allows faster reaction at the net n i dont stand at the back n smash too often.

one fine day, I decided to give bs09 a try since i have been seeing so many top pro doubles player using it. When i got it(4u, medium flex) with the original grip, it did felt slightly heavier n for a person like me who is so used to a headlight racket, it did feel quite head heavy as i swing it. I did feel that i might have bought the wrong racquet at first. I took it for a game with just a new grip over the original one n i was rather suprised. It didnt swing as heavy as i thought at all . Very stable hitting n best of all, very little vibration. Clears, lobs all done with ease n best of all, i actually felt comfortable being the back man n smashing with it! :D

the one little thing that bothered me was the reaction speed. I can block n defend easily with my other headlight racquets but with this racquet, i felt i was slightly slower n it might be due to the fact that its head heavy n im just too used to headlight racquets. so i decided to do some modifications to change the racquet balance to slightly more even balanced as what i do in my tennis. I taped some lead tape on the bare wooden handle of the racquet n experimented with different amounts of lead tape till i got the feel l like n have since been using this modified bs09 for like a month n feeling really satisfied :) some might want to wrap more overgrips instead of using lead tape to reduce the head heavyness( but grip size might become rather big) its up to u. For me i like to the grip size to be smaller so thats why i choose lead tape.

To similar guys like me who likes being the front man in doubles or like fast driving rallies n have been always using a headlight racquet, u can actually give BS09 a try. it will feel very rather head heavy at first but u can try some slight modifications like me. To sum it up, BS09 is a suprisingly good racquet that handles almost all areas rather well especially smash n driving and with the modifications i did, its has become one of my favourite racquet for my doubles games:D

p.s. whether the balance of the racquet is head heavy or head light or even balanced all really depends on the users themselves. Some strong guys used my unmodified bso9 n felt its head light. Hope to see more bs09 users come share their experience :)


u feel the racket is more head heavy might be bcoz the racket is 4u. a lot of ppl find 4u yonex armortec rackets more head heavy feel than the 3u yonex armortec rackets. u may ean to try out the 3u BS09. my dream racket but dream is still quite far from reality ($$$).

[Sealman]

imho the 3u bs09 is even balance compared to the 3u bs08 which is slightly head heavy. would rate stiffness as approx. mid-stiff similar to say head metallix 8000 or victor superwaves 33 power.

[h4n5ip]

Tried both BS08 and 09 at the same time last week.

Stiffness BS08>BS09
Head heavy almost on par
I think both of them is moderate head heavy.

both rackets is very good for double player, very easy to swing, very forgiving, it's a good all around racket.

[deathscythe]

a little heavy =P thinking of getting a 4U to try out... and i found it really stiff even though the stiffness rating is more flexible than my 3U SW31... I felt my SW31 was more maneuverable. but it might just be because the BS09 is new and the SW31 is not...

I wonder how long a racquet/shaft can maintain its original stiffness? In addition, is it true tht a stiffer or stronger/harder racquet will hv its string tension wears off faster? After playing 2 days with my BS08, the tension has dropped sharply. It was strung with BG65 at 27 lbs. My other racquet tht is more flexi still has its tension maintained after 2 wks of playing. Both strung at the same shop with identical specs.

[hduong]

Just picked this up on ebay. Hopefully I get better balance of power and control. My AS7 I find lacking a little in power. Great defense and feel though. My Head Metallix 4000 gives me much better smashes but I find net play and drops not as good.

[thambert]

hey thambert, which racquet did you use before the BS09? i tried out a 3U BS09 but didn't really like it because of the weight.

i was switching between apacs es10 n nanapower90speed(special edition). es10 is around even balanced n np09speed a bit head heavy but still lighter than BS09. 4u might suit u better if u still wanna use the brave sword series. there one new model which i believe should be a lot lighter feeling,the bs 169. The site states it as slighty more flexible and available in 3u n 4u. The colour is rather unisex as its not as pink as arc 9(think korean cutie HHY might switch to this from SW36 as she looks interestedhttp://home.ttymq.com/space-2-do-album-picid-44726-goto-down.html. look at the pic below :D) This racket should be slightly cheaper than the Bs09 n the upcoming bs10, 11. http://www.yoger.com.cn/upfile/Editor/2009050240259969.jpg


http://home.ttymq.com/attachment/200905/15/2_1242372658eWf5.jpg

[BennyC]

Just picked this up on ebay. Hopefully I get better balance of power and control. My AS7 I find lacking a little in power. Great defense and feel though. My Head Metallix 4000 gives me much better smashes but I find net play and drops not as good.

Yeah i currently switch around with my AT700 and ARC7. Hopefully it will feel somewhere in between the 2. Once i get my BS09, i will write up a review and compare it with several rackets.

[hduong]

As a matter of fact, i just ordered 3 from that seller. he was extremely friendly, responsive and very professional. He guarantees authenticity. I should be receiving them some time next week. Will let you guys know how it goes.


What version did you buy? 3U or 4U? He is currently sold out of 3Us and will not received new stock till Tue or Wed of next week.:crying: Why couldn't you just buy 2 instead of 3? J/K.

[BennyC]

What version did you buy? 3U or 4U? He is currently sold out of 3Us and will not received new stock till Tue or Wed of next week.:crying: Why couldn't you just buy 2 instead of 3? J/K.

Yeha I bought 3x3U's..he actually only had 1 on hand and had to order 2 extras for me. My rackets will be in sometime this week..by Sunday i should have a nice review =)

[jymbalaya]

the price looks quite attractive. :D
however, i have found a good racket for me.:o
oh well, next time.

[hduong]

Yeha I bought 3x3U's..he actually only had 1 on hand and had to order 2 extras for me. My rackets will be in sometime this week..by Sunday i should have a nice review =)

Waiting for your review. Mine wont arrive for another 2-3 weeks. I added another layer of grip to my AS7 and it seemed to have helped a little in the smash and power department. It's now slightly thinker than the Metallix 4000 grip. Still not as easy to back hand clear to the rear court. But were not suppose to use that shot very much anyways. Got to remember to add 2 layers of grip to the BS09 as well.

[BennyC]

Alright so i just received my rackets ( shipping only took 5 days from taiwan!!!!). Everything looks legit, got some 3-racket bags and some grips. Overall, extremely satisfied with their service( the ebay seller is in a link in this thread).

Here is my initial impression:

-Slightly headheavy ( barely though)
-Medium stiffness = Arc7 ( a little softer though)
-A little heavier than the ARC7
-Easy to maneavour
-Feels very stable
-Build quality is excellent

Little notes:

My impression was that it was gonig to be similar to my ARC7 and I was right. It just feels slightly head heavier and less stiff ( probably due to its longer shaft). However, just from swinging it, it feels much more ideal for me as I found my ARC7 a little on the light side and a little headlight. I think that if I were to execute a smash, I would be able to generate more power with the BS09. Overall, Im having high hopes for this racket and hopefully, it will be my new go-to racket =)

A consolidated review should be available by sunday evening.

[deathscythe]

Alright so i just received my rackets ( shipping only took 5 days from taiwan!!!!). Everything looks legit, got some 3-racket bags and some grips. Overall, extremely satisfied with their service( the ebay seller is in a link in this thread).

Here is my initial impression:

-Slightly headheavy ( barely though)
-Medium stiffness = Arc7 ( a little softer though)
-A little heavier than the ARC7
-Easy to maneavour
-Feels very stable
-Build quality is excellent

Little notes:

My impression was that it was gonig to be similar to my ARC7 and I was right. It just feels slightly head heavier and less stiff ( probably due to its longer shaft). However, just from swinging it, it feels much more ideal for me as I found my ARC7 a little on the light side and a little headlight. I think that if I were to execute a smash, I would be able to generate more power with the BS09. Overall, Im having high hopes for this racket and hopefully, it will be my new go-to racket =)

A consolidated review should be available by sunday evening.

Wow! Your new racket has arrived. Can't wait for your review soon.

[BennyC]

Alright folks, so the moment you have been waiting for. Lets start off with the basics:

String/tension: BG80's @ 26lbs
Weight/grip: 3U/G2 (Similar to yonex G5)
Grip: Gamma Supreme

Gameplay:

Okay so my initial impressions were already posted in this thread, so just refer to that. During game play, my initial impressions were all right! It felt like the ARC7 but headheavier and less stiff. So here's a little about my playing style:

I am leaning towards more of the defensive/control side where I worry more about placement rather than raw power. Its not very often that a smash can win points not to mention it kills your energy. However that being said, I am still quite an aggressive player :)

Defense:

So here goes...This racket is a very fast and easy-to-maneuver racket. The frame has the aerodynamic design, similar to the AT800DEF. Defending was effortless. A flick of the wrist and away it goes. I definately saw my accuracy and consistency improve by quite a bit from my usual ARC7.

Power:

This racket has a pretty nice balance with a medium flex and slight head heaviness. It is not a very demanding racket at all which means many players are able to utilize this with some ease. To keep it short, its quick and powerful. Smashes( forehand and backhand) were more angled and precise. Placements were very accurate. However, my power has decreased a little most likely due to the fact it's not as stiff as my ARC7.

Net play:

One word....EASY! It just feels GOOD playing net. I feel much more confident playing net than with any of the rackets I have ever tried.

Feel:

Very lively, responsive, stable and durable. The characteristics of a well built racket! The paint job IMO was quite nice and it does not seem that easy to chip off. Id say the racket was quite forgiving if it was not hit on the sweetspot.

So as promised here are comparisons with some of the racket i own(ed). Please keep in mind this is my personal preference and may differ from person to person! :

Power: AT700>AT900P>ARC10>BS09>ARC7
Defense: BS09>ARC10>ARC7>AT900P>AT700
Net play: BS09>ARC7>AT900P>ARC10>AT700
Feel: BS09>ARC10>ARC7>AT700>AT900P
Maneuverability: ARC7>BS09>ARC10>AT900P>AT700
Control: BS09>ARC7>AT900P>ARC10>AT700

Overall Rating:

Power: 8.5/10
Defense: 9.5/10
Net play: 9.5/10
Feel: 10/10
Maneuverability: 9.5/10
Control: 9.5/10

Stiffness: AT900P>AT700>ARC10>ARC7>BS09
Note: The stiffness between the arc7 and BS09 is not significant.

Pros: Awesome control/defensive racket. Excellent all-around racket!
Cons: Availability

Recommended for fast paced, control type mixed or doubles players.
Intermediate - advance level players.

P.s. This is my new go-to racket. :):):):):):)

[Jing09]

Thanks for the review! You are really tempting me to get that instead of NS9000 type S >.<

I have wrist problems, so I can only use head light rackets (prefer) and even balance rackets. I maybe able to use certain head heavy rackets though (TSF300A, AT900T).

But if the BS09 is near headlight/even balance, I might be able to use :]

[hduong]

Alright folks, so the moment you have been waiting for. Lets start off with the basics:

String/tension: BG80's @ 26lbs
Weight/grip: 3U/G2 (Similar to yonex G5)
Grip: Gamma Supreme


P.s. This is my new go-to racket. :):):):):):)


I got the same string and tension as you. How was the string job? Good to hear it feels better than the AS 7 in most areas. Was hoping for a bit more power than in your review though. Mine should be here this week. We'll see how it plays next weekend.

[BennyC]

Thanks for the review! You are really tempting me to get that instead of NS9000 type S >.<

I have wrist problems, so I can only use head light rackets (prefer) and even balance rackets. I maybe able to use certain head heavy rackets though (TSF300A, AT900T).

But if the BS09 is near headlight/even balance, I might be able to use :]

This racket is almost even balanced, just slightly head heavy...not even at900t head heavy. So you shouldnt really have a problem with it.

[BennyC]

I got the same string and tension as you. How was the string job? Good to hear it feels better than the AS 7 in most areas. Was hoping for a bit more power than in your review though. Mine should be here this week. We'll see how it plays next weekend.

Like i initially asked for 24lbs but when i got it, it felt like 26lbs :O. It wasnt that much of a problem since i play tensions around that area most of the time. As for power, i think it will be better once i break in the strings. For now, id say power is better than the ARC7 :P

[deathscythe]

Alright folks, so the moment you have been waiting for. Lets start off with the basics:

String/tension: BG80's @ 26lbs
Weight/grip: 3U/G2 (Similar to yonex G5)
Grip: Gamma Supreme

Gameplay:

Okay so my initial impressions were already posted in this thread, so just refer to that. During game play, my initial impressions were all right! It felt like the ARC7 but headheavier and less stiff. So here's a little about my playing style:

I am leaning towards more of the defensive/control side where I worry more about placement rather than raw power. Its not very often that a smash can win points not to mention it kills your energy. However that being said, I am still quite an aggressive player :)

Defense:

So here goes...This racket is a very fast and easy-to-maneuver racket. The frame has the aerodynamic design, similar to the AT800DEF. Defending was effortless. A flick of the wrist and away it goes. I definately saw my accuracy and consistency improve by quite a bit from my usual ARC7.

Power:

This racket has a pretty nice balance with a medium flex and slight head heaviness. It is not a very demanding racket at all which means many players are able to utilize this with some ease. To keep it short, its quick and powerful. Smashes( forehand and backhand) were more angled and precise. Placements were very accurate. However, my power has decreased a little most likely due to the fact it's not as stiff as my ARC7.

Net play:

One word....EASY! It just feels GOOD playing net. I feel much more confident playing net than with any of the rackets I have ever tried.

Feel:

Very lively, responsive, stable and durable. The characteristics of a well built racket! The paint job IMO was quite nice and it does not seem that easy to chip off. Id say the racket was quite forgiving if it was not hit on the sweetspot.

So as promised here are comparisons with some of the racket i own(ed). Please keep in mind this is my personal preference and may differ from person to person! :

Power: AT700>AT900P>ARC10>BS09>ARC7
Defense: BS09>ARC10>ARC7>AT900P>AT700
Net play: BS09>ARC7>AT900P>ARC10>AT700
Feel: BS09>ARC10>ARC7>AT700>AT900P
Maneuverability: ARC7>BS09>ARC10>AT900P>AT700
Control: BS09>ARC7>AT900P>ARC10>AT700

Overall Rating:

Power: 8.5/10
Defense: 9.5/10
Net play: 9.5/10
Feel: 10/10
Maneuverability: 9.5/10
Control: 9.5/10

Stiffness: AT900P>AT700>ARC10>ARC7>BS09
Note: The stiffness between the arc7 and BS09 is not significant.

Pros: Awesome control/defensive racket. Excellent all-around racket!
Cons: Availability

Recommended for fast paced, control type mixed or doubles players.
Intermediate - advance level players.

P.s. This is my new go-to racket. :):):):):):)


Nice review. U were saying it bcos it's less stiff hence your power is slightly decreased. BS08 is stiffer than BS09, would it be more ideal to u or could it be less powerful if it's stiffer?

[Jing09]

You said you lost power, but on the rating you put BS09>Arc7

[BennyC]

@ Deathscythe

Ive never tried the BS08 but im assuming that if the balance felt the same and just got stiffer than the BS08 would be more ideal.

@Jing09

The BS09 is slightly head heavy making it easier to generate power. Where as the ARC7 is even balance. After using the BS09, i find using my ARC7 a little weird...most likely due to to the fact that its light and even balanced =/.

[hduong]

Got my racquet yesterday and played for a couple of hour today. Also had clash but just a small scratch on the chip:rolleyes:. But better to get the first scratch over with. The racquets is very good in all areas. The power is definitely better than my AS7. I could backhand clear from baseline to baseline with ease. Lots of height too. I couldn’t do that with the AS7 regularly. Smashes have more pop as well. Seems like a slightly head heavy power with head light swing speed. Touch and drop was also very good. I still think the AS7 is better for defensive shots like blocking or return of smash. This was exactly that I was looking for.


This is also my go to racquet now.

My rating compared to AS7. No #s but definitly above 9/10 in all areas except defense.

BS09 with BG80 @ 26lbs and AS7 with BG80 @ 24lbs

Power: BS09>AS7
Defense: BS09<AS7
Net play: BS09=AS7
Feel: BS09>AS7
Manoeuvrability: BS09>AS7
Control: BS09=AS7

[BennyC]

Got my racquet yesterday and played for a couple of hour today. Also had clash but just a small scratch on the chip:rolleyes:. But better to get the first scratch over with. The racquets is very good in all areas. The power is definitely better than my AS7. I could backhand clear from baseline to baseline with ease. Lots of height too. I couldn’t do that with the AS7 regularly. Smashes have more pop as well. Seems like a slightly head heavy with head light swing speed. Touch and drop was also very good. I still think the AS7 is better for defensive shots like blocking or return of smash. This was exactly that I was looking for.


This is also my go to racquet now.

My rating compared to AS7. No #s but definitly above 9/10 in all areas except defense.

BS09 with BG80 @ 26lbs and AS7 with BG80 @ 24lbs

Power: BS09>AS7
Defense: BS09<AS7
Net play: BS09=AS7
Feel: BS09>AS7
Manoeuvrability: BS09>AS7
Control: BS09=AS7

So isee our review is pretty consistent =) btw, was yours a 3U or 4U?

[hduong]

@ Deathscythe

Ive never tried the BS08 but im assuming that if the balance felt the same and just got stiffer than the BS08 would be more ideal.

@Jing09

The BS09 is slightly head heavy making it easier to generate power. Where as the ARC7 is even balance. After using the BS09, i find using my ARC7 a little weird...most likely due to to the fact that its light and even balanced =/.

I give this a 9/10 in power compared to a 8/10 for the AS7. Just what I was hoping for.:D

[hduong]

So isee our review is pretty consistent =) btw, was yours a 3U or 4U?

Mine was a 3U. Going to try my friends AT900T and see how it compares in power.

[BennyC]

Mine was a 3U. Going to try my friends AT900T and see how it compares in power.

Trust me, AT900T>BS09 for power. I owned one before. :P

[hduong]

Trust me, AT900T>BS09 for power. I owned one before. :P


I was thinking about getting a AT900T instead of the B09 at one point. But the stiffness, head heavy balance, not to mention 2X the price of the AT900T swayed me to the BS09.

[ck1981]

Hi,

Where can I buy BS09 and BS08 in Singapore? Do you know the prices?

[BennyC]

Hi,

Where can I buy BS09 and BS08 in Singapore? Do you know the prices?

No idea =/ It was hard enough for me to find it for cheap, especially over ebay.

[GT0ro]

Hi,

Where can I buy BS09 and BS08 in Singapore? Do you know the prices?

I think they were going around $150 SGD or something.
http://www.badmintonshop.blogspot.com/

[GT0ro]

I didn't like my 3U BS09 but I will try out a 4U version very soon... expected to arrive today...

currently my go to racquet is not even my own racquet but my friend's super nano 3. i also tried out a 4U SW33C, 4U SW33P, and 3U Artery Tec Ti-98. my favourite of the 4 is currently a toss up between the SW33C and the nano3. Both are very similar and provide great maneuverability and defense. the 33P was surprisingly stiff and head heavy. definitely harder to play defense than the 33C and nano3. it's hurting my wrist when i play =( the artery tec ti-98 felt heavy and solid. but not my type of racquet. hopefully the 4U bs09 will be somewhere inbetween the 33C and 33P. trying to find the "best" balance for myself.

[Jing09]

I didn't like my 3U BS09 but I will try out a 4U version very soon... expected to arrive today...

currently my go to racquet is not even my own racquet but my friend's super nano 3. i also tried out a 4U SW33C, 4U SW33P, and 3U Artery Tec Ti-98. my favourite of the 4 is currently a toss up between the SW33C and the nano3. Both are very similar and provide great maneuverability and defense. the 33P was surprisingly stiff and head heavy. definitely harder to play defense than the 33C and nano3. it's hurting my wrist when i play =( the artery tec ti-98 felt heavy and solid. but not my type of racquet. hopefully the 4U bs09 will be somewhere inbetween the 33C and 33P. trying to find the "best" balance for myself.

A lot of people who own a BS09 got 3U.
So I'm just wondering why do you dislike the 3U? :eek:
Thanks.

[GT0ro]

the 3U felt heavy and i didn't feel like i got enough swing speed out of it. it was weird. just didn't really "connect" with the 3U BS09. i'm just giving it a second chance with a 4U because the racket looks nice =P and also because the specs of the BS09 are in between the 4U SW33P and 4U SW33C. the SW33C is a good racket, but i just want to give the 4U BS09 another chance. i plan to get multiples of a single racket so i need to test throughly.

[Jing09]

Same. I'm not sure whether to get a 3U or a 4U. So I'm relying on this forum for information :/

[GT0ro]

i have the BS09 now. got it today and got it strung today. i'll have a chance to really test it this weekend. i'll let you know if it's performs the same as the 3U version.

[Jing09]

i have the BS09 now. got it today and got it strung today. i'll have a chance to really test it this weekend. i'll let you know if it's performs the same as the 3U version.

sweet! thanks a lot.

[BennyC]

the 3U felt heavy and i didn't feel like i got enough swing speed out of it. it was weird. just didn't really "connect" with the 3U BS09. i'm just giving it a second chance with a 4U because the racket looks nice =P and also because the specs of the BS09 are in between the 4U SW33P and 4U SW33C. the SW33C is a good racket, but i just want to give the 4U BS09 another chance. i plan to get multiples of a single racket so i need to test throughly.

it felt heavy? o.O I still think it feels a tad light, but in the end it comes down to preference. However IMO, going to a 4U will sacrifice quite a bit of power.

just my 2 cents//

[GT0ro]

it felt heavy? o.O I still think it feels a tad light, but in the end it comes down to preference. However IMO, going to a 4U will sacrifice quite a bit of power.

just my 2 cents//

oh man, for sure. going to 4U racquets from 3U took quite a bit of getting used to. it's like someone just zapped all your power. i find though that it's a different swing/technique getting good power out of 4Us. i'm starting to get the hang of it which is why i'm liking the 4U racquets a lot more. they are by far more maneuverable. i used to play with 2U cab21 and 2U woven7 and those were really heavy but easy to smash.

i'm not sure why the 3U bs09 felt heavy. i actually liked the 3U SW31 that i had before...

[hduong]

I don't fine the BS09 3U heavy at all. This compared with other even balance 3U racquets. Swing speed is quite good.

[ck1981]

Compared to BS08, which one is better?

[deathscythe]

Both merely differ on its stiffness. So it's your choice.

[ck1981]

I'm quite an agressive double player and like to smash and drill a lot. Should I go for BS08 or 09?

[GT0ro]

i'm having a little bit of a problem with the ebay seller for the moment... the SW33C he sent me creaks at the part where the shaft meets the cone... still trying to work things out... on the otherhand, the BS09 is problem free.

[deathscythe]

I'm quite an agressive double player and like to smash and drill a lot. Should I go for BS08 or 09?

Well, BennyC felt tht with a stiffer racquet (like his Arc7 or theoretically a BS08) he would able to generate a more powerful shot. However to some ppl a slightly flexy racquet offers more power. Hence, it all depends your timing when hitting. In general, BS09 (Lee Yong Dae) & Explorer 68 (stiffer than BS09 & used by Tan Fook/Wan Wah) tend to be a more popular choice among doubles player.

[yanzhi0714]

hmm...ebay seller Squash_xxx told me Victor Taiwan ran out of BS09....
not sure...i wanted to get one....but out of chance...

GT0ro...u got SW33C and BS09 from him?

[deathscythe]

Sorry guys, I think I made a mistake as I read in other thread that Tan Fook is using BS08.
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70543

[GT0ro]

hmm...ebay seller Squash_xxx told me Victor Taiwan ran out of BS09....
not sure...i wanted to get one....but out of chance...

GT0ro...u got SW33C and BS09 from him?

yeah, i got a 4U BS09 and a 4U SW33C. but the SW33C is defective/damaged... =( it has the worse creaking noise i've ever heard in a racket =P

sometimes the part where the shaft meets the handle gets loose or damaged after long hard use. the racket starts making "clicking" noises or creaking noises at near the cone. but it really shouldn't be the case with a brand new SW33C... =(

[yanzhi0714]

wonder if u heard his new racquet F4?
thought of giving it a try~

hmm...is it from squash seller? :) maybe find him and tell him bout that...

[deathscythe]

yeah, i got a 4U BS09 and a 4U SW33C. but the SW33C is defective/damaged... =( it has the worse creaking noise i've ever heard in a racket =P

sometimes the part where the shaft meets the handle gets loose or damaged after long hard use. the racket starts making "clicking" noises or creaking noises at near the cone. but it really shouldn't be the case with a brand new SW33C... =(

can't u get that claimed?

[GT0ro]

can't u get that claimed?

i'm trying to sort this problem out over email with him. and what do you mean by "claimed"? i'm in Toronto, Canada and he's in Taiwan. it will be expensive and difficult to ship anything back and forth.

[jymbalaya]

i'm trying to sort this problem out over email with him. and what do you mean by "claimed"? i'm in Toronto, Canada and he's in Taiwan. it will be expensive and difficult to ship anything back and forth.

i would just hand it to any dealer for replacement, unless victor rackets have country codes as well. there should be little problem.

[GT0ro]

i would just hand it to any dealer for replacement, unless victor rackets have country codes as well. there should be little problem.

I'm pretty sure they do. My racket the code on my racket indicates TW on it.

[kirbosmash]

what special "victor" technology is in the brave sword?

[Jing09]

what special "victor" technology is in the brave sword?

http://www.yoger.com.cn/product/101599.html

[kirbosmash]

thanks Jing09.

Though I can't read Chinese, I read about the super waves inside frame. That gives it its repulsion, etc. Besides that, it's just an ordinary racket. The other 'technologies' are pretty normal.

Just my interpretation. Although that super waves thing is pretty enticing... remniscent of cs carbon nanotube.

[hduong]

New technology doesn't always = better racquet. What it means is more expensive.

[hduong]

i would just hand it to any dealer for replacement, unless victor rackets have country codes as well. there should be little problem.

I don't believe the Brave Sword 09 is sold in Canada(yet?). The Canadian Victor rep told me that local shops can special order them though.

[kirbosmash]

New technology doesn't always = better racquet. What it means is more expensive.



yes it does. I think the saying is "more money does not mean a better racquet". Not what you said.

And the braveswords are pretty expensive... So I should be skeptical about what technologies are in it - I wouldn't buy a wooden racket, would i? =P


I am drawn to the "super inside wave" stuff in it - that looks like it's Victor exclusive.

[Gemcat]

Good things aren't cheap, cheap things aren't good. This is true as "There is no free lunch."

@hduong - I think you mean expensive racquet doesn't make a good player.

[Jing09]

Free lunch at school :D ...sometimes

[hduong]

@hduong - I think you mean expensive racquet doesn't make a good player.

That too...............

[BennyC]

yes it does. I think the saying is "more money does not mean a better racquet". Not what you said.

And the braveswords are pretty expensive... So I should be skeptical about what technologies are in it - I wouldn't buy a wooden racket, would i? =P


I am drawn to the "super inside wave" stuff in it - that looks like it's Victor exclusive.

Braveswords arent expensive at all, well atleast from my seller it wasnt. I honestly think that the CS nanotube stuff for the ARC7 takes away some of the feel, but thats just my opinion. Just so you guys know, I have been using the ARC7 for over a year so I know what im talking about LOL.=)

[Gemcat]

Free lunch at school :D ...sometimes

No way! I never had any free lunch at school....

[yanzhi0714]

Hi BennyC, are you suggesting that Braveswords' SuperWaves are better?

And may I know what's the price range of it from your seller?

Thanks

[BennyC]

Hi BennyC, are you suggesting that Braveswords' SuperWaves are better?

And may I know what's the price range of it from your seller?

Thanks

Ive never tried the Superwave series, only the powerwave and Braveswords. Im not suggesting its "better" ( in general terms), but better for me atleast. If you own an ARC7, then you can really relate to what im talking about. Unfortunately, the ebay seller ( mentioned in this thread) does not sell them anymore. I bought 3 of them so i got a price of $120 each with stringing, bag and grip, which was an awesome price! I am not exactly sure which other places may sell them.

[yanzhi0714]

oh ok :) i'm relating Superwaves to the ones on the Braveswords.

does it feel like there's more elastic power or...?

[BennyC]

oh ok :) i'm relating Superwaves to the ones on the Braveswords.

does it feel like there's more elastic power or...?

like i said, never tried the SW series. ARC7 has more of an elastic power on the frame due to its technology. BS09, generates more momentum because its slightly head heavy.

[Jing09]

No way! I never had any free lunch at school....

There's a program where students with low income get free lunch. :D

If a friend that does get free lunch from the school doesn't feel like eating... just take their ID card and you got yourself free lunch :p


but anyways, how come that ebay seller isn't selling anymore? :eek:

[yanzhi0714]

haha but the food i think had been charged together with the school fees.


i heard from him that there's no more stock for the bs09 in taiwan....not sure....

[Jing09]

Then we'll just have to wait for them to make more :P

[-Silver-]

Ive never tried the Superwave series, only the powerwave and Braveswords. Im not suggesting its "better" ( in general terms), but better for me atleast. If you own an ARC7, then you can really relate to what im talking about. Unfortunately, the ebay seller ( mentioned in this thread) does not sell them anymore. I bought 3 of them so i got a price of $120 each with stringing, bag and grip, which was an awesome price! I am not exactly sure which other places may sell them.

have u use PW12 before? If so how was it compare to BS09? If not how was PW series compare to BS series? Thanks

[BennyC]

have u use PW12 before? If so how was it compare to BS09? If not how was PW series compare to BS series? Thanks

i have tried the PW12 but for a quick second. If i get a chance this week, ima just play around with his PW12 and hopefully do a comparison between that and the BS09.

[Jing09]

At the beginning of this thread you said not to ask for comparisons or we'll drift away... but since it's already been done, I might as well as for comparisons also!

How is the NS9000 type S compared to the BS09?

[BennyC]

At the beginning of this thread you said not to ask for comparisons or we'll drift away... but since it's already been done, I might as well as for comparisons also!

How is the NS9000 type S compared to the BS09?

Well the point of me saying that was so that people can just get clear and concise reviews. We have 2 so far and they are both pretty consistent. SO im happy already =)

Ns9000S VS BS09: NS9000S is stiffer and head light, BS09 is less stiff, but head heavier. BS09 is much more user friendly than the NS9000S.

[-Silver-]

i have tried the PW12 but for a quick second. If i get a chance this week, ima just play around with his PW12 and hopefully do a comparison between that and the BS09.

Alright, thanks man! Hope to hear from u soon.

[-Silver-]

So any update on the PW12 compare to BS09?

[BennyC]

So any update on the PW12 compare to BS09?

Sorry cant get a hold of my friend... hes busy with his own stuff lately. May take a while =/

[Sealman]

So any update on the PW12 compare to BS09?

I tried both racquets and my two cents is the stiffness of these two models are similar. In terms of head heaviness, imho BS08 > PW12 > BS09

[chome]

I tried both racquets and my two cents is the stiffness of these two models are similar. In terms of head heaviness, imho BS08 > PW12 > BS09

I just broke my At700 4u racket, may i know where can i get the BS09 4U version?

[-Silver-]

I tried both racquets and my two cents is the stiffness of these two models are similar. In terms of head heaviness, imho BS08 > PW12 > BS09

Thanks sealman for the info. May i know whether BS08 is alot more stiffer than PW12?

Thanks :)

[Sealman]

May i know whether BS08 is alot more stiffer than PW12?

in terms of stiffness BS08 > PW12/BS09 imho

[-Silver-]

in terms of stiffness BS08 > PW12/BS09 imho

Thanks for the info!

[Edg3_21]

In a few words, a pretty good racket all round for drives, net play, drops, defensive and precision shots, smashes are also pretty powerful given the contact with the racket's sweetspot and correct technique...imho. Less head heavy and stiffness than a900t hence less power but better in counter attacking and defensive shots. Other characteristics of the racket are similar to a900t.

8.8/10!!
:)

[Jing09]

Got 2 BS09s in Mongkok, HK. Will probably test it out tomorrow. But damn, they were hard to find. Bought the last 2 at a much more expensive price. The store with the cheapest price was out of stock! >:O

[george@chongwei]

Got 2 BS09s in Mongkok, HK. Will probably test it out tomorrow. But damn, they were hard to find. Bought the last 2 at a much more expensive price. The store with the cheapest price was out of stock! >:O
BS09 should be a good racket overall..
wow, how much did u bought those?

[Jing09]

BS09 should be a good racket overall..
wow, how much did u bought those?

Total was $2360 HKD... or $304 USD

The Victor Authorized store had them for $980 HKD each... which would be $1960 for both, which would be $253 USD >:O but nuuuuuuuu they had to be out of stock.

[konafan]

Total was $2360 HKD... or $304 USD

The Victor Authorized store had them for $980 HKD each... which would be $1960 for both, which would be $253 USD >:O but nuuuuuuuu they had to be out of stock.


wow ...that is really very very ex .....
Singapore and Malaysia are selling at much competitive prices ...
Singapore at $140 to $155 = USD94
Malaysia at RM350.

[Jing09]

wow ...that is really very very ex .....
Singapore and Malaysia are selling at much competitive prices ...
Singapore at $140 to $155 = USD94
Malaysia at RM350.

oh WOW so much cheaper! If I tried to bargain with the seller though, they are like "the racket is already cheap at that price, it's a 2009 model anyways," which I do agree with because US stores sell them for $200 USD each, which would be more than what I payed for. So I guess it's all good. But then again, it wouldn't hurt to get them more cheaper.

[deathscythe]

I heard that Victor racquets has increased their price recently in Malaysia. Probably RM 20-RM30 more than previous batch.

[Edg3_21]

Well I bought mine at RM400 and it was on promo.....well i reckon if LYD uses it u cant go wrong.....wonder if the new BS10 & BS11 coming out soon will take over BS08 & BS09...

[Jing09]

ah 10 and 11 came out in HK already.

[soulpow]

I wanted to get BS09 but should I wait to test 10 or 11 first? I still cannot find 10 and 11 in Penang..

[konafan]

Singapore should see them in Sep together with SW 35 and SW 36

[george@chongwei]

Well I bought mine at RM400 and it was on promo.....well i reckon if LYD uses it u cant go wrong.....wonder if the new BS10 & BS11 coming out soon will take over BS08 & BS09...
what?? there's bs 10 and bs 11 coming out?:confused:

[Edg3_21]

what?? there's bs 10 and bs 11 coming out?:confused:

yeap...in fact they are already out in some regions..

http://www.victorsport.com/product_english.asp?productSort=96

will wait and see which korean player uses them..:)

[tecdecs]

Lee Yong Dae will be using the BS 10

[deathscythe]

Where do you get this info from? :confused:

[Edg3_21]

im curious too:confused:...since he just used the 09 a week ago in the wbc finals...

[77suns]

imho the 3u bs09 is even balance compared to the 3u bs08 which is slightly head heavy. would rate stiffness as approx. mid-stiff similar to say head metallix 8000 or victor superwaves 33 power.

Thought of getting a 4U BS9. Currently using 4u SW33P with lead tape on handle to make it head light for double play, would BS9 be better or i am better off without it since they will be quite similar?

[Jing09]

Got a question. Does the BS09 vibrate a lot to you guys. It normally occurs when I mishit, but when I don't, I sometimes do feel a slight shock through my hands. Doesn't affect play tooo much.

[BennyC]

Not really. I rarely mishit but when i did, I didn't really feel anything =/.
An update for any potential buyers:

The seller on ebay that was listed in this thread currently has a limited stock of the BS09. After those are gone, he will no longer carry anymore so get them while you still can for the awesome price!

P.s. I do not know him nor am i advertising for him. I just think its a great deal and people should take advantage of it while you still can.

[bluecraze07]

Not really. I rarely mishit but when i did, I didn't really feel anything =/.
An update for any potential buyers:

The seller on ebay that was listed in this thread currently has a limited stock of the BS09. After those are gone, he will no longer carry anymore so get them while you still can for the awesome price!

P.s. I do not know him nor am i advertising for him. I just think its a great deal and people should take advantage of it while you still can.
Hey Benny, do you have the link for this seller? I can't seem to search him up on Ebay.

[GT0ro]

Thought of getting a 4U BS9. Currently using 4u SW33P with lead tape on handle to make it head light for double play, would BS9 be better or i am better off without it since they will be quite similar?


they aren't that similar. i've used both bs09 and sw33p in 4u. bs09 feels a lot more flex than sw33p. i find sw33p better for defense. bs09 headhvy and flex make it feel slower.

[bluecraze07]

Ok since you (GT0ro) seem to be so knowledgeable on Victor rackets, what are the best offensive orientated rackets they make? I am mostly an offensive doubles player.

[GT0ro]

Ok since you (GT0ro) seem to be so knowledgeable on Victor rackets, what are the best offensive orientated rackets they make? I am mostly an offensive doubles player.

the racket you don't like. sw31.

but also depends on your swing. wristy player, i'd go with bs09 something more flex. otherwise, sw33p i guess.

[bluecraze07]

the racket you don't like. sw31.

but also depends on your swing. wristy player, i'd go with bs09 something more flex. otherwise, sw33p i guess.
haha, I thought you didn't know my scree name :D. I never said I didn't like the sw31. Looking to try Victor rackets now ever since I got my amazing BS08.

[GT0ro]

i haven't tried any of the new new rackets but my go to racket so far has been the sw33c. it's very similar to the super nano 3. a bit more flex and both are hard to generate a lot of power. i dunno your definition of "hard hitting" but all my friends hit pretty hard. i'll be at the new club "everyday badminton" tonight if you want to try out the sw33c and bs09. i also have a artery tec 98. i'll be there from 8-10 or 11pm.

[bluecraze07]

i haven't tried any of the new new rackets but my go to racket so far has been the sw33c. it's very similar to the super nano 3. a bit more flex and both are hard to generate a lot of power. i dunno your definition of "hard hitting" but all my friends hit pretty hard. i'll be at the new club "everyday badminton" tonight if you want to try out the sw33c and bs09. i also have a artery tec 98. i'll be there from 8-10 or 11pm.
I'm never going to Everyday Badminton again. You shall understand once you get there. Anyways, get back to me about the rackets through msn or email once you get the prices. Thank you.

[GT0ro]

I'm never going to Everyday Badminton again. You shall understand once you get there. Anyways, get back to me about the rackets through msn or email once you get the prices. Thank you.

ceiling is low as heck. but it's free for the next couple weeks i think. going to play for free and try to improve my "defense"

[victor_83]

bought the BS09 and i have to admit the overall with the racket is excellent to me. no remorse a single cent on this piece of equipment.

[Wan Njang]

Sold my BS09 few days ago after about a month playing with it. Prefer my AT900T better

[victor_83]

personally BS09 is good for singles, the racket is reflexive and if you execute sudden bursting power shot it will respond the second you hit it.

[herovc]

I have tried a search and nothing was found. So here it goes:

Which Yonex racquet is similar to the BS09?

[ahmeh]

hey guys, i had been a fully yonex user all this while but i m now very interedted in victor racket especially bs09.....so can u guys kindly tell me how to differentiate the grip size of a victor racket? is it G2 = G5 (Yonex)? then do anyone of u know where can i get any of the victor racket in KL? thanks a lot.

[Ferrerkiko]

In my opinion, brave sword 09 is a medium flex racket... its good , can still be used since super wave 35 and brave sword 10 is already out ..

If the racket is no good Lee Yong Dae wont be using it!

[hduong]

BS09 is a very good all around racket. Single, doubles, attacking and defensively all very good. Going to pick up a SW36 to see if it get a little more power. Was thinking SW35 or BS10 but they are probably too stiff for me.

[danielwong]

hey guys, i had been a fully yonex user all this while but i m now very interedted in victor racket especially bs09.....so can u guys kindly tell me how to differentiate the grip size of a victor racket? is it G2 = G5 (Yonex)? then do anyone of u know where can i get any of the victor racket in KL? thanks a lot.


go to my thread...i did a research already...
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77954

[ahmeh]

thanks for the info, beside than this....do u guys know roughly how much do a Victor BS09 cost in RM? cos i am planning to get one. thanks so much in advance guys....

[niemrieng]

i think it's about 390RM

[ahmeh]

the RM390 is already discounted or not? or is it The retail price.... beside than this, i already sent my yonex ti10 for a replacement n it already about 2 months but no repy yet from the shop. i used the ti10 for one month and it broke while the string broke without any impact or knocking of racket with my partner. sigh....so u guys opinion, how u all rated this 2 racket? which wan will be better?

appreciate u guys opinion a lot. thanks.

[jk1980]

I am thinking of getting a BS09 after my ArcZ broke yesterday (almost cannot sleep :( )
Does anyone know whether Victor racquets have a more flexible claim policy compared to YY?
I heard that some other brands have policy like when you break yours, you get to buy a similar one at 1/2 the price. Doesn't matter whether it is clash or mishit or whatever.
Victor have such policy?

[bob_jabba83]

Can Someone give me the price For This BS09??? in Malaysia and which shop selling it?? Better in Penang And KL of course.. PLZZZZZZZZ:):):D

[huangxl]

the RM390 is already discounted or not? or is it The retail price.... beside than this, i already sent my yonex ti10 for a replacement n it already about 2 months but no repy yet from the shop. i used the ti10 for one month and it broke while the string broke without any impact or knocking of racket with my partner. sigh....so u guys opinion, how u all rated this 2 racket? which wan will be better?

appreciate u guys opinion a lot. thanks.

I owned both but i sold off my ti10. Ti 10 is stiffer and gives you more power when smashing. BS09 is nicer to defend and play drive with. BS09 has a heavier head and more solid feel. Ti 10 is head light. Both racket is easy to move around with. But Ti10 probably more fragile. BS09 is able to withstand higher tension.

[ryim_]

I owned both but i sold off my ti10. Ti 10 is stiffer and gives you more power when smashing. BS09 is nicer to defend and play drive with. BS09 has a heavier head and more solid feel. Ti 10 is head light. Both racket is easy to move around with. But Ti10 probably more fragile. BS09 is able to withstand higher tension.
I haven't played with the BS09 yet but the Ti10 (3rd gen) is definitely not head light. I know it says head light on the shaft but its not really head light. Its pretty balanced in my opinion.

[jk1980]

I would say Ti10 is slightly head heavy. NS9900 is head light.

[ryim_]

I would say Ti10 is slightly head heavy. NS9900 is head light.
I always wonder why it says head light on the shaft though for both the 2nd and 3rd gen Ti-10s.

[jk1980]

I think it's all relative. Compared to AT900P and AT700 it's definitely a lot lighter. But if you compare against NS9900 it's significantly heavier. Depends where you are coming from I guess. But both also stiff shafts...i wonder how BS09 will feel with it's much more flexible shaft. Can't wait for tomorrow to find out....hahah

[jk1980]

BTW, is there like a China version and a Taiwan version? Any difference?
I asked one shop is China version which is RM490...another one is RM399 which I believe is Taiwan version.

[huangxl]

It depends on your grip too. Some may feel abit heavy but Ti 10 definitely swings head light. They are 2 different racket. Ti10 is better for smashing and power. BS09 users maybe will find they require more effort to get the same power

[jk1980]

Power feels good but just power ain't enough to win games. Anyway if your smash can simply kill the opponent everytime, the games get boring anyway.

[nsync]

Can Someone give me the price For This BS09??? in Malaysia and which shop selling it?? Better in Penang And KL of course.. PLZZZZZZZZ:):):D

penang is around 400(tag rm499) :D with bg66..maybe u can try negotiate further

[jk1980]

I got for RM399 from AJ Racket Mart at Puchong. Include string and free grip.

[gancy]

what's the spec of BS09 did u get it?

[BennyC]

if anyone is still looking for BS09's in 3U or 4U..the seller i posted on this page has a final batch! http://cgi.ebay.ca/2009-VICTOR-BS09-badminton-racquet-racket-3U-4U_W0QQitemZ130353187703QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_Defa ultDomain_0?hash=item1e59a7cb77

He is legit as I bought 4 pieces + shoes from him.

[jk1980]

what's the spec of BS09 did u get it?

i bought a 3U version. No 4U one

[hduong]

if anyone is still looking for BS09's in 3U or 4U..the seller i posted on this page has a final batch! http://cgi.ebay.ca/2009-VICTOR-BS09-badminton-racquet-racket-3U-4U_W0QQitemZ130353187703QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_Defa ultDomain_0?hash=item1e59a7cb77

He is legit as I bought 4 pieces + shoes from him.


So tempted to get a second one.

[jk1980]

Since I'm in KL, the shipping cost makes it not worth it.

[bob_jabba83]

penang is around 400(tag rm499) :D with bg66..maybe u can try negotiate further
Ahh okey thanx for the info, so it is the same price as AJ selling, but i do ask this shop in Kulim he selling for RM 489 but with a Bag and String plus grip of cause.. So Overall Does it worth it cause i do not know the price of the bag:D opinion Anyone???:cool::cool:

[jk1980]

RM499 can get BS10 or BS11. I tested BS10....well worth the extra 100 bucks. I am considering buyin BS10 or BS11 next. Well I got 3 racquets now....so have to wait till one of these breaks.

[bob_jabba83]

But i need the flexible racket as my wrist and arm is not strong due to injury, so i think BS 09 is suitable...don't u think???

[jk1980]

I'd personally prefer a stiffer one. Found the BS09 a bit too flexible for my game. I miss being able to just use the wrist and do a whipping motion with the racquet for an awesome smash. Takes people off guard cause it doesn't look at all like a full body proper smash. I found I am able to do it really well with the NS9900 and Ti10 but not with BS09. I think mainly it's due to the flexible shaft.

[nsync]

Ahh okey thanx for the info, so it is the same price as AJ selling, but i do ask this shop in Kulim he selling for RM 489 but with a Bag and String plus grip of cause.. So Overall Does it worth it cause i do not know the price of the bag:D opinion Anyone???:cool::cool:

Its too expensive. The price i stated is included string,grip,bag :D
490 can get bs10/bs11 with string,grip,bag :D

In AJ, u can choose to get a blank racket(no string/bag/grip), with cheaper price :D

[nsync]

RM499 can get BS10 or BS11. I tested BS10....well worth the extra 100 bucks. I am considering buyin BS10 or BS11 next. Well I got 3 racquets now....so have to wait till one of these breaks.

since u prefer stiff..u should go for bs10 :D more stiff...more power :D

[bob_jabba83]

Its too expensive. The price i stated is included string,grip,bag :D
490 can get bs10/bs11 with string,grip,bag :D

In AJ, u can choose to get a blank racket(no string/bag/grip), with cheaper price :D

Oh yeah then it's cheaper than AJ then ,AJ offers me 399 with string and grip but never mention bag, the price that u mention, where can i get it PM me plzzzzzz:D :D.......

[daneosaur]

Just ordered my BS09 :D:D from sohubuy.com about $150, as cheap as it gets online. Will post full review when I get back, first try with Victor. Looking for Victor shoes now SHW8000 series.:o

[LD rules!]

Just ordered my BS09 :D:D from sohubuy.com about $150, as cheap as it gets online. Will post full review when I get back, first try with Victor. Looking for Victor shoes now SHW8000 series.:o

I am going to order mine In a few days how stiff would you say the BS09 is ?
And how head heavy ?
Thanks

[roy b]

I am going to order mine In a few days how stiff would you say the BS09 is ?
And how head heavy ?
Thanks

LD, you are ordering a racket, and you are asking how stiff and how head heavy the racket is ???

[LD rules!]

LD, you are ordering a racket, and you are asking how stiff and how head heavy the racket is ???

yes I am. I know that it is even balanced but not sure how stiff it is I was just looking for a comparison really to a yonex racket what it is most like in terms of stiffness and BP

[roy b]

yes I am. I know that it is even balanced but not sure how stiff it is I was just looking for a comparison really to a yonex racket what it is most like in terms of stiffness and BP
Don't order till you are sure :):).

[LD rules!]

Don't order till you are sure :):).

I won't, besides I am sure I could sell it if I didn't like it
So those anyone have a comparison for the BS09 to a yonex racket ?
Thanks

[jk1980]

I have Ti10, NS9900 and used to have an ArcZ.
BS09 is way way more flexible compared to all these 3.
It's quite balanced or slanting towards head light. And overall the weight feels sort of like the ArcZ. But still more flexible than ArcZ.
It's not really good if your games consists mainly of short wrist flicks/movements. For me, after using BS09, i can't seem to do these moves which I normally do with ease on the NS9900 and Ti10.
Just like the ArcZ, you are forced to do more full body smashes in order to get the power. But when you do it right, it seems more powerful.

Conclusion: Takes some getting used to if you come from YY background and stiff racquets. Different but not in a bad way. But I would think an easier transition is to the BS10 or BS11 which are stiffer.

[huangxl]

Maybe you can compare it to Arc 7? That is what i think it is. I could be wrong

[daneosaur]

LD Rules, I only just ordered, actually didn't receive it yet. The specs of the racket is 3u (85g+?) and is towards head heavy, I don't know why people are saying it's balanced, I guess because it's light and aerodynamic?

Will receive in about a week:crying: but oh I can't wait :D.

[daneosaur]

Just bought my Victor SHW8000H shoes, man I just got like a Victor rush through my veins these past few days lol.

[jk1980]

LD Rules, I only just ordered, actually didn't receive it yet. The specs of the racket is 3u (85g+?) and is towards head heavy, I don't know why people are saying it's balanced, I guess because it's light and aerodynamic?

Will receive in about a week:crying: but oh I can't wait :D.

It's balanced. Not head heavy at all.

[Mr.Defensor]

I just bought myself a gift for my hardwork for year 2009 .

It's a Victor Brave Sword 09 .

In Sgp dollar , $168 .

With a Victor back pack . 2 Karakal PU grip .

And string with Victor 60 string .

I have Ti-10 . 2 Apacs , 1 Dunlop AeroGel 9000XL , i had to say , BS09 is the lightest .

Not tried yet , tuesday then i know .

I got a 4U ..... strung at 26lbs , was told this racket can go as high as 30lbs .

[daneosaur]

I just bought myself a gift for my hardwork for year 2009 .

It's a Victor Brave Sword 09 .

In Sgp dollar , $168 .

With a Victor back pack . 2 Karakal PU grip .

And string with Victor 60 string .

I have Ti-10 . 2 Apacs , 1 Dunlop AeroGel 9000XL , i had to say , BS09 is the lightest .

Not tried yet , tuesday then i know .

I got a 4U ..... strung at 26lbs , was told this racket can go as high as 30lbs .


Do you know the specs of the 4U you ordered? And did you want that? Cause I ordered 3U.

[huangxl]

30 lbs for the 3u, 28lbs for the 4U

[Densha]

I have just ordered 2x BS 09 thanks to this post from the ebay seller you've been talking about. He answers quickly and is very devoted, can't wait to try this racket, I have also asked for additional strings bg 65 ti and shoes SHW 8000.

But I am wondering if there are racket bags included besides the big orange bag.

http://norang.free.fr/badminton/package_inside.JPG

[hduong]

There was no racket cover included when I bought my BS09 from this guy. Just a small 3 racket bag like yours but blue and gray color. I also didn't get a racket cover with my SW36 from AJ Racket Mart. Weird Victor doesn't throw in a small two racket cover like Yonex includes with their higher end stuff.

BTW, did you get 3U or 4U?

[BennyC]

I didnt get any individual cases...just that same orange bag. That seller has been having a hard time getting his hands on those BS09's since they are still so popular. I'm just waiting for him to get the SW35's in 3U...

[daneosaur]

OMG DENSHA, getting the exact same shipment, shw8000-H shoes, but only 1 bs09 lol. Do tell us how the racquet works out for you.

[Mr.Defensor]

Today first time i tried out the Brave Sword 09 .

Strung with Victor 60 @ 26lbs .

I give the rating as 8/10 .

It is a very balance racket .

Not too head heavy , not very light overall .

Good control , extremely effective for a defensive player , not very good in terms of smashing power .

I was thinking maybe i should stick to Yonex BG-66 instead of VS-60 .

It's a matter of time before i get used to it .

Well , Ti-10 although head heavy , in terms of overall power , Ti-10 is better .

At least Ti-10 is stiff , good for a players that smash alot .

For an advance player , BS09 might not be your ideal racket if u asking for power .

[Mr.Defensor]

For SGD$168 , the package includes no bag , just a backpack that can contain just a racket . 2 Karakal PU Super grip and Victor VS-60 string @ 26 lbs .

[Densha]

hehe, I will make a modest review as soon as I receive the package. I love yonex so much, but I want to try this one which is nice and looks to suit my gameplay.

hduong I have ordered 3U since I want my rackets to be similar to the european's ones just in case I have to buy in a french store in emergency.

I have sold my YY AS10, NS7000 and NS9900 in order to afford this purchasing.

I am now looking for korean polos and shorts, and maybe SHW 8000 H if I like them. Daneosaur, can you tell me your feelings with these shoes please.

[deathscythe]

hehe, I will make a modest review as soon as I receive the package. I love yonex so much, but I want to try this one which is nice and looks to suit my gameplay.

hduong I have ordered 3U since I want my rackets to be similar to the european's ones just in case I have to buy in a french store in emergency.

I have sold my YY AS10, NS7000 and NS9900 in order to afford this purchasing.

I am now looking for korean polos and shorts, and maybe SHW 8000 H if I like them. Daneosaur, can you tell me your feelings with these shoes please.

Wah...gave up 3 Yonexs for this purchase though loving Yonex that much. What if it doesn't suit you??

[Densha]

I'll keep my ns 4500, or I'll try to get back an NS9900. I've got a good friend who's doing a tour in Asia then she's told she can bring me some stuff, so I can ask for a bs 11 or an ns 9900 =) I'm not worried, I have bought these rackets to see which kind of racket can suit me, and it looks like that the ArcSaber 7 or Nanospeed 9900 are perfect for me, but I need more power than provide the NS9900.

[smashf0sho]

which type is the one that has gold on the side instead of black like SHW 8000H?

[Densha]

the 8000 ace ?

http://www.bbeshop.com/victor/victor2009/shoes_sh8000ace.jpg

[alexkho]

This what i got as i am replace all my yonex stuff to victor.

the 09 is made in china and 10 is made in taiwan ?

anyone here got the 09 that is made in taiwan?

[alexkho]

I will only get this racket on friday ... hopefully i can try it out on the tournament with all my victor's gear.

[LD rules!]

some nice photos there alexkho good luck with the tournament

[george@chongwei]

Mine bs09 was made in taiwan;)

[Sealman]

Mine bs09 was made in taiwan;)

Is it indicated on the shaft?

[george@chongwei]

Is it indicated on the shaft?
yesssssssssssssssss.

its indicated on the cone there

[jk1980]

it's indicated on the shaft just above the code....has a string of serial numbers along with the code.
Mine is MY

[drrwong]

Just got my BS9 (3u) yesterday, won't have a chance to play it till this weekend. Anyway, it was TW coded.
Some initial impressions:
- Balanced racquet--not head heavy
- Shaft is longer than my NS9.9k, and very close to my Arc Z
- Head is also narrower than NS9.9, but slightly bigger than Arc Z
- Head is thicker than Arc Z, hence more drag than ArcZ during my phantom swings in my living room
- Shaft is more flexible than both NS9.9 and ArcZ

[alexkho]

so i was wondering is your new BS09 made in taiwan or china ?

i have not seen my but my friend say's it's made i china with a taiwan code

[jk1980]

Just got my BS9 (3u) yesterday, won't have a chance to play it till this weekend. Anyway, it was TW coded.
Some initial impressions:
- Balanced racquet--not head heavy
- Shaft is longer than my NS9.9k, and very close to my Arc Z
- Head is also narrower than NS9.9, but slightly bigger than Arc Z
- Head is thicker than Arc Z, hence more drag than ArcZ during my phantom swings in my living room
- Shaft is more flexible than both NS9.9 and ArcZ


Very exact observation.

[huangxl]

That is the distribution code, it does not mean it is made in taiwan. I asked chris before. Mine is SG code, it doesn't mean it is made in singapore does it?

[jk1980]

That is the distribution code, it does not mean it is made in taiwan. I asked chris before. Mine is SG code, it doesn't mean it is made in singapore does it?

So how do we know where's the country of origin then?

[Sealman]

yesssssssssssssssss.

its indicated on the cone there

thats the distribution code. if its made in taiwan, it should be indicated on the shaft similar to the bs10.

[Mr.Defensor]

http://i825.photobucket.com/albums/zz171/amazingwizard/DSCI0994.jpg

[drrwong]

Finally got a chance to play with my BS09 over the weekend, with roughly 3hrs in total. Here is my first post-game impression:
- Feel: balanced to even slightly head-light after my gripping job. Definitely very easier to swing with
- Pros: very quick reaction time and easy to maneuver--great for quick drive rallies and returning smash to the back of the court; the power of the racquet is easily accessible (ie: big sweet spot)
- Cons: less maximum power than what i am used to, slightly numb feeling at the net

PS: this is compared to my usual racquets of Arc Z and NS9.9k

[Granum]

This what i got as i am replace all my yonex stuff to victor.

the 09 is made in china and 10 is made in taiwan ?

anyone here got the 09 that is made in taiwan?

Is that a shop in Taiwan?

[jk1980]

Wow, that's like a full-on wet dream. There isn't a single shop in Australia with even half that many rackets.


The bigger shops in KL all have at least as many racquets.

[alexkho]

Racket Detail BS 09 3UG2 24lb Stirng yonex NGB95 (Made in China)

I too got the chance to Use the BS09 this weekend

I when to a tournament and it's the first time with victor racket

I got the 09 and 10 and my first impression is that the racket seem to be less stiff compare with my yonex NS9900 and Arc10

With a dry swing and flick. it seem to be very flex .. ( this might be because of the slim shaft)

First time hitting it with shuttle on court ( warm up) Shuttle Used , Yonex AS10

The racket have a nice swing .. when hitting the shuttle it is kind of like the 900T but faster , this might be how the racket frame has the signature sword shape couple with the slim shaft.

It took me a while to get the hang of the racket ( warm up and two tournament set) after that i am totally adapted to the racket.

Smash i am able to give it 9/10 some people might tell you it has less power but when on a aggressive game you are able to hit the sweet spot consistently with the power i think that is very important , too me at least

7/10 Netting on the other hand might be this racket small weakness ... has it kind of head heavy ... no way near 900P or 900T heavy but the weight does put you off when you do your netting might be my skill problem but it seem i have to put in more afford in that area.

6/10 Slice drop ( this is my favorite shot in a game) i don't seem to able to do the slice drop compare to my arc10 or NS9900 this again might be due to the head heavy couple with the slim shaft .


I will update with more information as i play more with this racket .

[alexkho]

Brave sword 09 is now consider the Even between attacking and Technical play.

[hduong]

Thanks for the new chart. Could someone please translate what each end of the arrows mean?

[alexkho]

Top is for Pro Player bottom is for entry player

left is for technical play right is for attacking play

[gancy]

anyone of guy know is BS10 long shaft like BS09?

[jk1980]

Here's the rough translation I got from a friend of mine. Not sure on the accuracy

[jk1980]

I think another way to look at it is like this.

[PapA_xlonG]

Nice chart~ But where is BS 08 ?

[roy b]

Nice chart~ But where is BS 08 ?

No longer manufactured ??? Like the SW32 ???

[Mr.Defensor]

I would say , to string BS 09 with VS-600 string , this 2 don't combine too well . If u are used to Yonex Bg-66 , don't expect the same feel with VS-600 string .

BG-66 with ti-10 , i rate combo as 9/10 , nice combinations .
VS-600 with BS-09 , i rate it as 4/10 , lousy performance from Victor .

Can you believe it , i decided to cut off my existing VS-600 string and change to BG-66 . No point hanging on with VS-600 . The tension for Victor Vs-600 is an absolute disaster !!

[Densha]

Hey everybody,

I want to know if there are different places where are made the BS09 because I have ordered 2 rackets from the guy you've been talking about earlier on ebay.

But I have compared my racket to a French one in a Victor's show room, and my racket looks different, same 3u-G2 for both rackets, but the balance and the weight don't seem to be the same. There is a difference on the shaft, I have a kind of ball sorry I don't really know how to describe, a black round kind of ball with a grey logo V whereas the French one, the bottom of the shaft is flat and red with a white V.

Can you guys tell me what do you have please ? And where has your racket been made.

Thanks a lot.

[Easy Tiger]

Some photos would help, Densha.

I still find the Victor line-up confusing, especially when every chart I see on the stiffness ratings of each racket in the BS range is different.

http://squashmart.myweb.hinet.net/BS10A1.JPG
http://squashmart.myweb.hinet.net/V091211.JPG

To use a gross analogy, is this about right....

BS09 = Arc9
BS10 = AT900P
BS11 = AT900T

[smashf0sho]

i heard the new BS series have different stiffness depending on the country's preferences or something. I hear taiwan has different stiffness than the ones in the other country just what i heard

[konafan]

No longer manufactured ??? Like the SW32 ???

did not see my fav SW 32 and SW 31
These 2 rackets are classic too .
SW 32 was once endorsed by former world champion chen hong.

[Easy Tiger]

e78 has both the 31 and 32.

[daneosaur]

WOO HOO! Finally received my packages. Shoes came in about 5 days and racquet in 10 days. Looks like I got TW coded. Like many others cannot hit with the racquet until 2 days, so I will post back up my hitting experience. Came with a weird little 'sack' case. Plastic handle cover contains specs but I can't translate.


Initial feeling: Balanced for sure, not too light, not too heavy, the handle is a bit shorter than I'm used to, but the overall length I'd say is about 675mm+ which makes up for it. Can't tell how good it feels or the stiffness cause I haven't really swung with it, but will see how the medium flex turns out. Can't wait :D.

http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/3428/photo0760.jpghttp://img29.imageshack.us/img29/8958/photo0759.jpghttp://img197.imageshack.us/img197/2278/photo0758c.jpg


http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/8536/photo0761.jpg

[bender123]

hi,

just a stupid question, do you string your brave swords with 22 or 23 crosses
i have seen pictures where people start their crosses at B9 and B8, does it even metter where you start

[Easy Tiger]

The BS9 seems like a good doubles weapon.

[Densha]

http://norang.free.fr/bs09/bs09serial.jpg

http://norang.free.fr/bs09/bs09v.JPG

here are the pics. Do you have the same thing on your TW rackets (second photo) ? Where did u get yours daneosaur ?

[cayzi]

One more time BS are more head heavy than Super Waves 35 and 36 series?

And if I am right BS09 is less stiff than BS11 is?


Regards

[daneosaur]

@Densha, yeah I got the same exact thing on the bottom, was actually surprised because most manufacturers use flattops, but this one pops out, nothing that will affect performance but cool to see:p. Got my racquet from sohubuy.com, was shipped to me from Hong Kong.

[Densha]

@Densha, yeah I got the same exact thing on the bottom, was actually surprised because most manufacturers use flattops, but this one pops out, nothing that will affect performance but cool to see:p. Got my racquet from sohubuy.com, was shipped to me from Hong Kong.

Thanks for your answer, I'm quite reassure now but I'm still expecting other bs09's owners answers too.

[Densha]

I have read the whole topic but I don't get how we do know where the racket has been made.

[bender123]

Hello, I have blue flat cup on the bottom of BS9 and BS11, it written made in taiwan

[daneosaur]

@bender123, flat? Take a pic!

[jk1980]

From what I understand there are at least 2 versions/batch of BS09.
The one with the black top should have the stiffness indicator on the shaft right at the center between stiff and flexible.

The one with the blue top should have the indicator slightly more to the stiff side.

That version somehow feels more like BS10. It's anyone's guess why the heck they go and create 2 versions.

[danielwong]

just wonder whether any possibility to have Victor imitate rackets???
as Yonex and now Li Ning also have fake ones

[Densha]

it would be great people could post pics of their own rackets then we can compare together =)

[Jughead Jones]

My BS09 is SG coded and the bottom one is popping out same as the picture posted. Kinda unique and i like my BS09:D. it only took me 1 game to familiarize with it unlike my NS9900 wherein the whole session when i used it was a disaster:p, but defensively, NS9900 tops BS09 in my opinion.

[Easy Tiger]

I'm begining to wonder if Victor is actually in the business of selling rackets, or just confusing the heck out of people.

I'm trying hard to like them....buuuuut.......

[george@chongwei]

The BS9 seems like a good doubles weapon.
yeah of course, to me, it feels like a sword when playing doubles;):D

[Easy Tiger]

yeah of course, to me, it feels like a sword when playing doubles;):D

"Conan! What is best in life?"

"To crush your enemies. To see them driven before you. And to hear the lamentations of their women."

:cool:

[jk1980]

Maybe the blue bottom victor 09 is just a fluke. Then they figured....hey this works.
So they renamed it BS10 and BS11.

[Densha]

there are different stiffness

http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=78868

@ Jughead Jones, what kind of stifness do you have on your racket ?

[Jughead Jones]

the Arrow pointing in the middle between stiff and flexible, i guess that means its medium stiff then?:D

[Densha]

yes medium stiff, so it is the same thing for me.

[daneosaur]

Hey just got back from badminton session. Here's my update on hitting with the BS09.

I don't know if it was me but the frame felt small, and the sweet spot was hard to get. Maybe it was the flexibility but I'm not sure. Unfortunately my strings had snapped within 2 hours of playing, damn at the top side. It was my first time trying BG66 as well and I've heard they aren't forgiving, as I'm used to 65.

Racquet swing I could feel it cut through air, a real breeze. Driving feels real nice, and smooth. Overhead game, clears were a bit harder, smashes as well, it felt like I had to be perfect to get them right, but when I did get that sweetspot, the power shows. Net drops were easy, and controllable. Defensively, it felt pretty similar to my Woven 8, not heavy to bring up and down. Net game, this racquet is very fast at catching shots. Back game, I cannot really say because I need to hit more with it. The real noticeable thing I experienced almost instantly is how fast the swing is, partnered with a medium stiffness I am not sure how that plays but man, the racquet can be summarized as: swift.

This was all due in a little less than 2 hours, so my results are REALLY from a wide range, and I need to have a good couple of sessions. I didn't get to fully adjust to the racquet, but I plan to restring with BG65, and hit with it again to get the full experience, I'll update again in time.

[Mr.Defensor]

I can't stand Victor Vs-600 string , totally cannot match this BS09 ! Really pissed off with that racket salesman , he said Victor Vs-600 and BG-66 " same feel " , non sense !!! I had never used a string that so power-less when smash .

So in the end , i cut off VS-600 26 lbs and replace it with Bg-66 @ 28lbs .

Hope this change , i can get the potential from this BS-09 .

It is a very good racket , defensive , base lines , drops , cross net , they are made to manouvre .

Except the power when smash .....

I swear i'll never used any strings that has got Titanium with it .

[daneosaur]

FINALLY got it restrung with bg-65 @ 24, but felt 22-23 when i got it -_-.

But nonetheless I played with it for a good 3 hours. I have to say, I'm just so used to a very tad bit heavier, and stiffer racquet. The racquet is great all around, it's just the smashes I feel are hard to pull. This is only my second time playing with it, but I'm happy with it :D. I know I just have to adjust to it.

[Ferrerkiko]

Brother daneosaur (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/member.php?u=57713) : You can also try Victor VS-850, its string is not bad, its used by the korean team !

[demolidor]

Chart from the 2010 (international) catalogue ...

[MobyDick]

My verdict on BS09 :

Not suitable if u are an offensive players like Fu Haifeng type . Reason was it was indeed a medium racket , not to those stiff type .

Whatever string u can used , it's the same , not the power type u need if u are those hard smash type .

But ...always a but .

Defensive wise , fantastic !

Loppings .... return smashes .... drop shots .... net play .... shttlecocks placement .... fantastic .

I guess the medium shaft just did the trick .

It is definitely not those light head tpe of rackets .

Now i know why Lee Yong Dae used this racket ? This racket simply fits his category of play .

Give this racket to Fu Haifeng , u'll not see 270km/h smashes down the line from Fu .