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eaglehelang
07-19-2009, 09:07 AM
okok,we chat in msn
is ok,never try to advise when people dont want to listen
learned my lesson;)
Ceh, the next time you will be very excited to comment2 again. :p

limsy
07-19-2009, 09:09 AM
Ceh, the next time you will be very excited to comment2 again. :p

i wont do stupid thing that people never appreciate AGAIN
just like the upset list;)
what for do so many?better share with those that will appreciate one;)
like u:)

volcom
07-19-2009, 09:10 AM
Haiseh my bro, they sad cos you critise their prefered player. They forgot you also critise our WPT/CEH on their errors, KKK/TBH, etc maybe they didnt notice :p. Btw, if you dont want comment in the threads never mind, PM & tell me, hehe

Amazing observation!?
Malaysian thing I presume? So defensive of you're own players while dishing out funny prejudism against China?
Just like at times when someone loses to LD because of unforced errors, it's not LD's presence of superiorness and pressure causing them to make the erros is it?

Always in hindsight it's so good to say damn cos they won on unforced errors. Then why the hell the noobs make them in the first place? Fixing it as gifts to the mighty china?!

volcom
07-19-2009, 09:11 AM
okok
i change my statement
applause to chen xiao jia,the asian junior champion 2009 from china
won all her match with her greatness and hard work
fight for every point and every rally
she deserve the victory
what a proud result she get despite so many strong opponent in the draw and she still can win the title in a beautiful style
happy?

She won, fair and square. What else is needed?
We don't need a forum that needs to constantly give out frequent Sorbent and Klennex tissues.
The opponents need to buck up or fall down in shame.

limsy
07-19-2009, 09:12 AM
Amazing observation!?
Malaysian thing I presume? So defensive of you're own players while dishing out funny prejudism against China?
Just like at times when someone loses to LD because of unforced errors, it's not LD's presence of superiorness and pressure causing them to make the erros is it?

Always in hindsight it's so good to say damn cos they won on unforced errors. Then why the hell the noobs make them in the first place? Fixing it as gifts to the mighty china?!

here u go



applause to chen xiao jia,the asian junior champion 2009 from china
won all her match with her greatness and hard work
fight for every point and every rally
she deserve the victory
what a proud result she get despite so many strong opponent in the draw and she still can win the title in a beautiful style


feel better?:D

badMania
07-19-2009, 09:13 AM
it is not a matter of sorry, I don't care what sorry. Because it is none of my business. I am just curious why you keep on criticizing her :(

Well, I am sure our dear limsy is not the only one "guilty" of the highlighted "crime". I believe some of the more illustrious BC members are even more critical of certain players, despite the fact that those players have won some important titles, including the World Championships and Olympics ;)

IMHO, criticizing an AJC or WJC champion is considered nothing at all as he/she is still a junior player with many faults. Therefore, it's possible that he/she won because of luck or because the opponents made too much unforced errors as limsy mentioned :cool:

volcom
07-19-2009, 09:15 AM
here u go



feel better?:D

No, I don't give a crap who actually wins to be honest. It's just junior championships.
Also it's ridiculous to be able to win a tournament just by saying the sheer luck of the players.
No one viewed Taufik's win in OG04 as luck right? The skill levels of his opponents barring PG basically gifted the trophy to him and that's through no fault of his.

limsy
07-19-2009, 09:15 AM
She won, fair and square. What else is needed?
We don't need a forum that needs to constantly give out frequent Sorbent and Klennex tissues.
The opponents need to buck up or fall down in shame.

agreed agreed
she is sooooooooooo good lar,amazing player
beautiful skill,great stamina,powerfull smash,never say die fighting spirit
what else i can add?
erm
erm
oh,a talented player that will win many wc,uc,sc,og and ae in future
hope to see her more in tv
will support her whenever she on court
iah!!!
i love chen xiao jia

eaglehelang
07-19-2009, 09:16 AM
Not surprising at all as most of the doubles pairs were split up again after the AJC or WJC :cool: Markis Kido/Liliyana Natsir was the 2002 AJC Champions....yet...Markis Kido ended up not playing in the Mixed anymore after the junior days.


Oh yeah, when I saw Kido/Lilyana's name, I was like "what? Kido can play XD?!" Haha. I mean for Msia also, the pair split up after their junior days, but many still struggling.
They have to pair with those same age, if not, the next yr, one of them is overage, have to split again.

volcom
07-19-2009, 09:21 AM
agreed agreed
she is sooooooooooo good lar,amazing player
beautiful skill,great stamina,powerfull smash,never say die fighting spirit
what else i can add?
erm
erm
oh,a talented player that will win many wc,uc,sc,og and ae in future
hope to see her more in tv
will support her whenever she on court
iah!!!
i love chen xiao jia

Good,
referenced for future viewing.

limsy
07-19-2009, 09:22 AM
Therefore, it's possible that he/she won because of luck or because the opponents made too much unforced errors as limsy mentioned :cool:

where posible?
she won all the 42 points by herself,smash here and there
trick here and there,drill here and there,push here and there,block here and there,she is a brilliant player;)
i am the one that saw a different match from others(let say 500++ crowd);)

SHLAU
07-19-2009, 09:27 AM
i wont do stupid thing that people never appreciate AGAIN
just like the upset list;)
what for do so many?better share with those that will appreciate one;)
like u:)


Your comments and reporting had made our days and spiced up the discussions. We are indebted to you in this sense. So please keep up your good works and reporting which are invaluable to the rescue of this miserable world.:crying:

badMania
07-19-2009, 09:29 AM
I find the arguments really amusing. Just how many of the AJC champions truly becomes the World Champions in the senior level?

I can list some AJC winners from China (and also other countries) whom are struggling to make an impact in senior levels yet or have completely disappeared without making a name for themselves AT ALL in the senior levels.

AJC Winners:
MS: Xiao Li, Ardiansyah, Lu Qicheng (he's ranked 106 right now)
WS: Hu Ting), Yu Jin
MD: Sang Yang/Henry (????)
XD: Xie Xingfang/Yi Li (???), Hwang Yu-Mi/Cho A-Ra (???), Rong Lu(???)/Du Jing, Cheng Shu/Liao Jingmei (she's probably gone??), Shen Ye/Feng Chen (haven't heard of her for quite a long time....)

WJC Winners:
MS: Zhu Feng, Zhang Yang
WS: Yu Hua, Wei Yan, Cheng Shao-Chieh (serious injury during Olympics 2008 hampered her progress)
MD: Gan Wye Teck(???)/Chan Chong Ming, Chan Chong Ming/Tao Seng Kok(???)
WD: Du Jing/Rong Lu(???)
XD: Wang Wei/Lu Ling(???), Zhang Wei/Qian Hong(???)

limsy
07-19-2009, 09:30 AM
Your comments and reporting had made our days and spiced up the discussions. We are indebted to you in this sense. So please keep up your good works and reporting which are invaluable to the rescue of this miserable world.:crying:

change the word of report into saying something that others like to listen and read,if not,all critic will coming when i post;)
i will pm u,or just give me ur msn:)


Good,
referenced for future viewing.

sure,i will say anything that u and suetyan like to read and listen;)

volcom
07-19-2009, 09:31 AM
I find the arguments really amusing. Just how many of the AJC champions truly becomes the World Champions in the senior level?

I can list some AJC winners from China (and also other countries) whom are struggling to make an impact in senior levels yet or have completely disappeared without making a name for themselves AT ALL in the senior levels.

AJC Winners:
MS: Xiao Li, Ardiansyah, Lu Qicheng (he's ranked 106 right now)
WS: Hu Ting), Yu Jin
MD: Sang Yang/Henry (????)
XD: Xie Xingfang/Yi Li (???), Hwang Yu-Mi/Cho A-Ra (???), Rong Lu(???)/Du Jing, Cheng Shu/Liao Jingmei (she's probably gone??), Shen Ye/Feng Chen (haven't heard of her for quite a long time....)

WJC Winners:
MS: Zhu Feng, Zhang Yang
WS: Yu Hua, Wei Yan, Cheng Shao-Chieh (serious injury during Olympics 2008 hampered her progress)
MD: Gan Wye Teck(???)/Chan Chong Ming, Chan Chong Ming/Tao Seng Kok(???)
WD: Du Jing/Rong Lu(???)
XD: Wang Wei/Lu Ling(???), Zhang Wei/Qian Hong(???)

Who's saying they will go on and win bigger things?

eaglehelang
07-19-2009, 09:32 AM
Amazing observation!?
Malaysian thing I presume? So defensive of you're own players while dishing out funny prejudism against China?
Just like at times when someone loses to LD because of unforced errors, it's not LD's presence of superiorness and pressure causing them to make the erros is it?

Always in hindsight it's so good to say damn cos they won on unforced errors. Then why the hell the noobs make them in the first place? Fixing it as gifts to the mighty china?!

In this regard :
1) Someone earlier said Msia won the Mixed Team event due to luck or being lucky - that person i believe is a Msian fan.
2) AND you TOTALLY missed my point, limsy also comment the same stuff on his beloved Msian players esp (of late) WPT/CEH.
3) Whenever Msian players or (other country players for the matter) win titles, there'll also comments that they won due to the opponent errors, etc, etc - more "interesting" comment also got. China fans can comment2( not saying you), other ppl also can comment2, goes both ways. ;)

More mockery have been made of Msian players than what you've seen here, you want to get angry .....

eaglehelang
07-19-2009, 09:40 AM
I find the arguments really amusing. Just how many of the AJC champions truly becomes the World Champions in the senior level?

I can list some AJC winners from China (and also other countries) whom are struggling to make an impact in senior levels yet or have completely disappeared without making a name for themselves AT ALL in the senior levels.


Btw, I find the wikipedia listing for AJC very weird. Those in different country are shown partnering each other or is it just me. THe WJC list is fine. CCM MD partner in WJC was Teo Kok Seng,he's not playing baddy anymore but his younger bro, TK SIANG (2008 AJC,WJC) is.


Who's saying they will go on and win bigger things?
Badmania & I started a little bit of discussion - cos I just found out INA havent won BD in AJC before.

Oh yeah, hopefully the other "arguement" will get cool down, dont get worked up, we(Msia) already get it before that China GS :D

suetyan
07-19-2009, 09:43 AM
change the word of report into saying something that others like to listen and read,if not,all critic will coming when i post;)
i will pm u,or just give me ur msn:)



sure,i will say anything that u and suetyan like to read and listen;)
you thought I only wanted to listen to the good? You thought I were pleased by the good? OMG, you can talk anything here, this is an open forum, anyone can post their opinion here. The same issue here, I just curious why you never talked good about Chen Xiaojia.

limsy
07-19-2009, 09:46 AM
you thought I only wanted to listen to the good? You thought I were pleased by the good? OMG, you can talk anything here, this is an open forum, anyone can post their opinion here. The same issue here, I just curious why you never talked good about Chen Xiaojia.

i already talked good about chen xiao jia,why dont u believe it?:crying:
say good u didnt believe,i say bad u say i say bad:crying:

SHLAU
07-19-2009, 09:46 AM
change the word of report into saying something that others like to listen and read,if not,all critic will coming when i post;)
i will pm u,or just give me ur msn:)



sure,i will say anything that u and suetyan like to read and listen;)

You just passed your 9,000 posts. You are one of the elder respected by majority of the members. (sounds flattering:p) A man of great wisdom and bearing like you I believe would not be influenced by few people who oppose you. Am I right?:D

badMania
07-19-2009, 09:47 AM
The same issue here, I just curious why you never talked good about Chen Xiaojia.

Well, if some of the BCers never "talked good" about Taufik Hidayat (despite Taufik winning the Olympics, World Championships and Asian Games), I am not surprised that limsy can find Chen Xiaojia not good enough to talk abt despite winning the AJC :o It's a free forum just like what you mentioned ;)

Hint: read his posts carefully and he already mentioned his personal observations in those posts. Honestly, I personally don't think Chen Xiaojia's over Ana Rovita was convincing enough though. I thought that the CHN player would have steamrolled Ana yesterday...but it turned out that our young player from PB Djarum could still force Chen Xiaojia to two pretty tight-sets. Ana could even win if luck was on her side, esp in the first-set. Well, it's my own opinion anyway, you could always disagree with me.

limsy
07-19-2009, 09:59 AM
You just passed your 9,000 posts. You are one of the elder respected by majority of the members. (sounds flattering:p) A man of great wisdom and bearing like you I believe would not be influenced by few people who oppose you. Am I right?:D

nah,many bcer think my post is crap
dont u see that many bcer complain about me?
say my english weak,my post no point,senseless,too free to sit infront pc all the time,post too much and many more;)
so,sorry
u are wrong:)


Well, if some of the BCers never "talked good" about Taufik Hidayat (despite Taufik winning the Olympics, World Championships and Asian Games), I am not surprised that limsy can find Chen Xiaojia not good enough to talk abt despite winning the AJC :o It's a free forum just like what you mentioned ;)

agree,haha
just realise that i been told that i in same category with them:D

limsy
07-19-2009, 11:06 AM
erm,i read it somewhere that wong wing ki already 20(born in 1989)?:eek:
if yes,why he can play in dutch and german junior?:confused:
if not,why he is absent from ajc?:confused:
anyone can help?thanks:)

badMania
07-19-2009, 11:08 AM
erm,i read it somewhere that wong wing ki already 20(born in 1989)?:eek:
if yes,why he can play in dutch and german junior?:confused:
if not,why he is absent from ajc?:confused:
anyone can help?thanks:)

It could be that his birthday was between the Dutch/German Junior and the AJC. He could still be regarded as a junior then, but since his birthday, he's no longer eligible to represent HKG for the AJC.

limsy
07-19-2009, 11:11 AM
It could be that his birthday was between the Dutch/German Junior and the AJC. He could still be regarded as a junior then, but since his birthday, he's no longer eligible to represent HKG for the AJC.

his birthday is 18/3/1989(if i am correct)
and i understand that ajc is only for 1991/1/1 onward?
others junior tournament is ok to accept a 19 years old for under 19?not 18?:confused:
i am confuse,help please

efslin
07-19-2009, 11:41 AM
I just searched and HK news said he was born 18/3/1990.

parmaham
07-19-2009, 11:46 AM
For the dutch and german junior, players were eligable if they were born in 1990 or later. As for Wing Ki Wong, I don't believe he was born in 1989 (although it says so in his fb, but so does Mohd Syawal's fb ;)). If so he would not have been allowed to play in last years World Junior championship as well...

efslin
07-19-2009, 12:02 PM
It should be born in 1990 or later for the juniors this year to fit in the U19 limit. AJC's rule this year (new rule?) is dodgy.

ctjcad
07-19-2009, 06:50 PM
okok,u all so exciting
i give u all some figure and fact
chen xiao jia only won 2 rally and 19 points is from opponent unforce error in 1st set(dont believe?up to u)
she only won 11 rally by herself throughout the match and 31 is from opponent unforce error.
so,judge by urself.
throughout the tournament,i dont think the point score by herself can win 3 match(126 points).from team event to individual,maybe less,2?:rolleyes:
maybe she won the national junior championship by this kind of performance:cool:
...

haha,is ur right to believe or not
u can ask others in the stadium,ask george,or others
if u think i am wrong,its ok:rolleyes:
- Aiyohooh, limsy ar..You've gotta give credit to Chen XJ, eventhough she won because her opponent gifted her 19 pts from unforced errors. Or that she couldn't score to win 3 matches, by herself.
Is it Chen XJ's fault that Tai Tsu Ying, her CHN Taipei's opponent, made so many unforced errors? Whose fault is it??:confused:
- We acknowledge your report/account on what happened. No problem with that.

...i critic because her game DIDNT tell me she is national junior championship of CHINA:cool:
she should be more better than what i saw,i mean,really MORE
...
..how could you expect to see a better Chen XJ perform if her opponent(s) were the ones fumbling and bumbling and making all the errors??:confused:

...saw many cuties there too..i can see mostly from, ahem, japan and china;):p
this time koreans girls is not my taste though:D:D
..our george@chongwei, his eyes are almost like a search light, always at work, even at this tourney..;)

They would not argue on the same issue again and again if any of them has read the book "Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus".:D

I assume Limsy is a man and Suetyan is a woman. Hopefully I am not wrong.

Suetyan, men got this thing called "ego".:p which you must take good care.
..it's more than that. If you don't know, yet, one is a die-hard Chinese team supporter; whilst the other is a die-hard M'sia team supporter. Yet both are M'sians. As a proof to the latter, just wait and see the pics posted by limsy..;)

...IMHO, criticizing an AJC or WJC champion is considered nothing at all as he/she is still a junior player with many faults.
...

No, I don't give a crap who actually wins to be honest. It's just junior championships.
...

I find the arguments really amusing. Just how many of the AJC champions truly becomes the World Champions in the senior level?
..(list of ex-AJC and WJC winners snipped for brevity)..
.."Egg-zachary!!" (as our DinkAlot often wrote)
Folks, this is nothing more than a Junior Championships tourney, a regional one also. ANd as i mentioned before, let's wait and see what those players will become in say, 5-6 yrs time.

The same thing happened in 2007, not exactly surprising. And the 2007 team was better than this year, both China & Msia. If Msia win is lucky, when China win is not lucky? It goes both ways.:p
And we didnt say Indonesia won the BD as lucky cos Msia's Yew was injured. Each player/pair did well to win, giving credit due to the winners, all the events.
..the thing is, all this hoopla and 40+ pages long thread and it's not even the WJC. Heck, this AJC is probably not even a BWF sanctioned tourney.
Hmm, i just hope by the time the WJC rolls around, yes, in M'sia, again, you guys won't be burnt out from doing the coverage..:p;)

limsy
07-19-2009, 07:04 PM
-

..it's more than that. If you don't know, yet, one is a die-hard Chinese team supporter; whilst the other is a die-hard M'sia team supporter. Yet both are M'sians. As a proof to the latter, just wait and see the pics posted by limsy..;)


nah,i didnt go to the stadium,i just simply say anything in the forum mah
i fake the fugure mah,i prejudis mah,where got photo:rolleyes:

ctjcad
07-19-2009, 07:17 PM
..who took the photos??:confused:..or were there photos taken??..:confused:

Jagdpanther
07-19-2009, 07:31 PM
Woala... Still morning (in MAS & INA), why is it so hot already?:confused:
Cool down, everyone.

>>limsy: don't forget your promise... JPN gals (+ INA players) photos.
Thanks. :p

Sandy
07-19-2009, 09:25 PM
no photo of Siti Anida match ?

Ajaib
07-19-2009, 10:12 PM
you thought I only wanted to listen to the good? You thought I were pleased by the good? OMG, you can talk anything here, this is an open forum, anyone can post their opinion here. The same issue here, I just curious why you never talked good about Chen Xiaojia.
i know the answer : becoz he is anti China fans....
so if you don't want to be corious again... just did like what i did :
I put Limsy on list of anti china Fans.. so if he never talk good about China player's then i understand what is the reason.... Let him never talk good about china players... it is an open forum like you said... i just laugh when i read him post about china players but i don't want to have a war with a fans like him....just read and "enjoy" his post... ;) coz the most important thing is the result of the tournament... Chen Xiaojia and CHINA still the Big winner

limsy
07-19-2009, 11:50 PM
..who took the photos??:confused:..or were there photos taken??..:confused:

dont ask me,i not in the stadium mah,i didnt witness anything;)
i just simply something bad about chen xiao jia;)


Woala... Still morning (in MAS & INA), why is it so hot already?:confused:
Cool down, everyone.

>>limsy: don't forget your promise... JPN gals (+ INA players) photos.
Thanks. :p

ask those been in stadium,i not there,i just a anti chen xiao jia bcer that simply say thing bad about her;)


i know the answer : becoz he is anti China fans....
so if you don't want to be corious again... just did like what i did :
I put Limsy on list of anti china Fans.. so if he never talk good about China player's then i understand what is the reason.... Let him never talk good about china players... it is an open forum like you said... i just laugh when i read him post about china players but i don't want to have a war with a fans like him....just read and "enjoy" his post... ;) coz the most important thing is the result of the tournament... Chen Xiaojia and CHINA still the Big winner

been so long in bc and didnt know i like wang yi han and wang lin:rolleyes:
applause:D

george@chongwei
07-20-2009, 01:49 AM
Is it? I mean I was surprised that INA so long time didnt win AJC or WJC since you all have such good tradition in senior level - esp the OG Gold in MD .
watch out for the ina BD duo in the future:cool: quite impress with their style of play.:)

okok
i change my statement
applause to chen xiao jia,the asian junior champion 2009 from china
won all her match with her greatness and hard work
fight for every point and every rally
she deserve the victory
what a proud result she get despite so many strong opponent in the draw and she still can win the title in a beautiful style
happy?
lol, limsy oh limsy..lol:D

agreed agreed
she is sooooooooooo good lar,amazing player
beautiful skill,great stamina,powerfull smash,never say die fighting spirit
what else i can add?
erm
erm
oh,a talented player that will win many wc,uc,sc,og and ae in future
hope to see her more in tv
will support her whenever she on court
iah!!!
i love chen xiao jia
are you sure with this statement, limsy?:D:D lol, so now will you ask CXJ to buy toto for you?:p

..who took the photos??:confused:..or were there photos taken??..:confused:
i manage to took some..but the quality is not very good..will post it later:cool:

george@chongwei
07-20-2009, 01:49 AM
just relax la, guys...still debating about the same issue??:(

george@chongwei
07-20-2009, 01:51 AM
so here's the final results of the individual event;)


Final results :

MS : Tian Houwei (CHN) bt Zainuddin Iskandar Zulkarnain (MAS) : 21/11 - 21/18
WS : Chen Xiaojia (CHN) bt Tai Tsu Ying (TPE) : 21/13 - 21/13
MD : Angga/Rendy (INA) bt Kheng/Han (MAS) : 21/15 - 21/16
WD : Xia/Tang (CHN) bt Luo/Luo (CHN) : 14/21 - 21/17 - 21/13
Mx : Lu/Bao (CHN) bt Liu/Xia (CHN) : 21/15 - 21/19

george@chongwei
07-20-2009, 01:52 AM
just to add something here, china male xd player yesterday..Lu Kai was really tall yesterday!:eek:
i wonder how old is him:rolleyes:

george@chongwei
07-20-2009, 02:00 AM
btw, some side news here.. chong wei were seating at the yonex stinging booth here..

saw many cuties there too..i can see mostly from, ahem, japan and china;):p
this time koreans girls is not my taste though:D:D
to add some here..chin eei hui was there in the YOnex stringing booth too during the final day..

meanwhile, i also saw some beautiful and cute chicks from kazakstan(?):p:):) seating in the player's seat there.

george@chongwei
07-20-2009, 02:01 AM
manage to meet up with tjl_vanguard a.k.a Wilson(?) too during the final day..;)
he's on a vacation trip to KL from kuching;):)

george@chongwei
07-20-2009, 03:12 AM
some pictures here..sorry for the bad quality:(

welcome to kompleks sukan(sports complex, Bukit Kiara):)

george@chongwei
07-20-2009, 03:15 AM
korean juniors players and some official.
notice the 2nd pic wearing green color shirt is Shon Seung Mo;)

george@chongwei
07-20-2009, 03:18 AM
chen xiao jia..limsy's favourite ws player now;):D:D

btw limsy, is your camera ok??:confused: no problem?;)
just blame pizza hut..:p

george@chongwei
07-20-2009, 03:22 AM
The WS match..sorry once again for the poor quality.:crying:

george@chongwei
07-20-2009, 03:25 AM
ina and mas BD warming up b4 the match start/..

george@chongwei
07-20-2009, 03:28 AM
Ina and Mas Boys hearing what their coaches has to say to them during interval break.;)

george@chongwei
07-20-2009, 03:31 AM
as i said before, there's some lighting problem during the wd match.. after that, some officials eventually went up to the main suis there to see what happen..;)before and after;)

george@chongwei
07-20-2009, 03:38 AM
more pics.....................

george@chongwei
07-20-2009, 03:39 AM
i have something to do now..will post more pics later..stay tuned;)

limsy
07-20-2009, 04:00 AM
chen xiao jia..limsy's favourite ws player now;):D:D

btw limsy, is your camera ok??:confused: no problem?;)
just blame pizza hut..:p

sure,why not? 100% ok,no problem;)

event
07-20-2009, 05:07 AM
It could be that his birthday was between the Dutch/German Junior and the AJC. He could still be regarded as a junior then, but since his birthday, he's no longer eligible to represent HKG for the AJC.


his birthday is 18/3/1989(if i am correct)
and i understand that ajc is only for 1991/1/1 onward?
others junior tournament is ok to accept a 19 years old for under 19?not 18?
i am confuse,help pleaseBadminton Europe is the one with rules that are different from the others since their season starts and finishes in different calendar years. Since the Dutch and German Junior Opens took place in a season that started in 2008, they accepted players who were U-19 for the entire 2008 calendar year. See their rules here (http://www.eurobadminton.org/file_download.aspx?id=12782):


The Badminton Europe Junior Circuit (the Junior Circuit) is a competition open to all
badminton players under 19 years of age throughout the calendar year in which the
season starts (season = 1 July 2009 - 30 June 2010) who are eligible to play for BWF
Member Associations.

limsy
07-20-2009, 05:08 AM
Badminton Europe is the one with rules that are different from the others since their season starts and finishes in different calendar years. Since the Dutch and German Junior Opens took place in a season that started in 2008, they accepted players who were U-19 for the entire 2008 calendar year. See their rules here (http://www.eurobadminton.org/file_download.aspx?id=12782):

The Badminton Europe Junior Circuit (the Junior Circuit) is a competition open to all
badminton players under 19 years of age throughout the calendar year in which the
season starts (season = 1 July 2009 - 30 June 2010) who are eligible to play for BWF
Member Associations.


thanks alot for ur help:)
hmm,any comment for korea team?kang ji wook/choi is quite strong one:)

Labis
07-20-2009, 05:10 AM
More photos on final day :

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/ApRHl0oYbyPVSSXX254AdQ?feat=directlink

http://picasaweb.google.com/engtiongtey/2009BadmintonAsiaChampionshipUnder19#5360479529117 413570

http://picasaweb.google.com/engtiongtey/2009BadmintonAsiaChampionshipUnder19#5360479534752 620786

http://picasaweb.google.com/engtiongtey/2009BadmintonAsiaChampionshipUnder19#5360479540865 477442

http://picasaweb.google.com/engtiongtey/2009BadmintonAsiaChampionshipUnder19#5360479542607 928482

http://picasaweb.google.com/engtiongtey/2009BadmintonAsiaChampionshipUnder19#5360480084605 983906

http://picasaweb.google.com/engtiongtey/2009BadmintonAsiaChampionshipUnder19#5360480089318 399122

http://picasaweb.google.com/engtiongtey/2009BadmintonAsiaChampionshipUnder19#5360480092906 763330

http://picasaweb.google.com/engtiongtey/2009BadmintonAsiaChampionshipUnder19#5360480099748 299154

http://picasaweb.google.com/engtiongtey/2009BadmintonAsiaChampionshipUnder19#5360480101448 757058

http://picasaweb.google.com/engtiongtey/2009BadmintonAsiaChampionshipUnder19#5360480962665 748082

http://picasaweb.google.com/engtiongtey/2009BadmintonAsiaChampionshipUnder19#5360480966753 483570

http://picasaweb.google.com/engtiongtey/2009BadmintonAsiaChampionshipUnder19#5360480969426 599010

http://picasaweb.google.com/engtiongtey/2009BadmintonAsiaChampionshipUnder19#5360480974191 814066

http://picasaweb.google.com/engtiongtey/2009BadmintonAsiaChampionshipUnder19#5360480977720 293394

http://picasaweb.google.com/engtiongtey/2009BadmintonAsiaChampionshipUnder19#5360481489423 146498

http://picasaweb.google.com/engtiongtey/2009BadmintonAsiaChampionshipUnder19#5360481492468 542082

http://picasaweb.google.com/engtiongtey/2009BadmintonAsiaChampionshipUnder19#5360481499799 496210

http://picasaweb.google.com/engtiongtey/2009BadmintonAsiaChampionshipUnder19#5360481501118 652434

http://picasaweb.google.com/engtiongtey/2009BadmintonAsiaChampionshipUnder19#5360481508414 842258

limsy
07-20-2009, 05:11 AM
More photos on final day :

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/ApRHl0oYbyPVSSXX254AdQ?feat=directlink

http://picasaweb.google.com/engtiongtey/2009BadmintonAsiaChampionshipUnder19#5360479529117 413570

http://picasaweb.google.com/engtiongtey/2009BadmintonAsiaChampionshipUnder19#5360479534752 620786

http://picasaweb.google.com/engtiongtey/2009BadmintonAsiaChampionshipUnder19#5360479540865 477442

http://picasaweb.google.com/engtiongtey/2009BadmintonAsiaChampionshipUnder19#5360479542607 928482

http://picasaweb.google.com/engtiongtey/2009BadmintonAsiaChampionshipUnder19#5360480084605 983906

http://picasaweb.google.com/engtiongtey/2009BadmintonAsiaChampionshipUnder19#5360480089318 399122

http://picasaweb.google.com/engtiongtey/2009BadmintonAsiaChampionshipUnder19#5360480092906 763330

http://picasaweb.google.com/engtiongtey/2009BadmintonAsiaChampionshipUnder19#5360480099748 299154

http://picasaweb.google.com/engtiongtey/2009BadmintonAsiaChampionshipUnder19#5360480101448 757058

http://picasaweb.google.com/engtiongtey/2009BadmintonAsiaChampionshipUnder19#5360480962665 748082

http://picasaweb.google.com/engtiongtey/2009BadmintonAsiaChampionshipUnder19#5360480966753 483570

http://picasaweb.google.com/engtiongtey/2009BadmintonAsiaChampionshipUnder19#5360480969426 599010

http://picasaweb.google.com/engtiongtey/2009BadmintonAsiaChampionshipUnder19#5360480974191 814066

http://picasaweb.google.com/engtiongtey/2009BadmintonAsiaChampionshipUnder19#5360480977720 293394

http://picasaweb.google.com/engtiongtey/2009BadmintonAsiaChampionshipUnder19#5360481489423 146498

http://picasaweb.google.com/engtiongtey/2009BadmintonAsiaChampionshipUnder19#5360481492468 542082

http://picasaweb.google.com/engtiongtey/2009BadmintonAsiaChampionshipUnder19#5360481499799 496210

http://picasaweb.google.com/engtiongtey/2009BadmintonAsiaChampionshipUnder19#5360481501118 652434

http://picasaweb.google.com/engtiongtey/2009BadmintonAsiaChampionshipUnder19#5360481508414 842258

thanks alot uncle:)

badMania
07-20-2009, 05:20 AM
thanks alot for ur help:)
hmm,any comment for korea team? Kang Ji Wook/Choi Seung Il is quite strong one:)

I believe they also lost to Angga/Rendy in the Team-Event.

george@chongwei
07-20-2009, 06:10 AM
Angga and Rendy:cool:

Jonc108
07-20-2009, 06:11 AM
Chen Xiao Jia wins in two straight sets in identical scores: 21:13.:eek:

Now could anyone explain the possible reasons why CXJ could lose to TJY earlier and as a result gifted the team title event to Malaysia?:confused:

she's a slow-warm-up player, so not warmed up yet...:D:D

george@chongwei
07-20-2009, 06:12 AM
Lee Chong Wei and Chin Eei Hui at the Yonex stringing booth corner:p:)

george@chongwei
07-20-2009, 06:16 AM
Tian Hou Wei. The BS winner. Walking to register himself to play in the court. At this very moment too, he got a lot of boos when walking past the mas fans here:D
Maybe he's quite frustrated and you can see it from his matches. He's on FIRE and all his smashes is superb. He also shouts very LOUD everytime he won a point.;) Another Left hander player from China. :rolleyes: That's why Iskandar is in trouble. UNder pressure and didn't play with his normal game.:o

Sandy
07-20-2009, 06:19 AM
Angga and Rendy:cool:

They are, Angga & Evert

Jonc108
07-20-2009, 06:20 AM
sigh, I feel sad for Xiaojia, even she has won, also being criticized until like this :( Xiaojia will prove you wrong in year WJC :)


:( sigh, I feel sad for limsy, who just demonstrated to everyone how badminton sports could be insulted and destroyed...

I feel sad for badminton, feel sad for BC... what a dark day!!! :eek::eek:

george@chongwei
07-20-2009, 06:22 AM
They are, Angga & Evert
oh, so the one on the left is evert?
i see..thanks for the info.
btw, why there's no paw in this tournament?

george@chongwei
07-20-2009, 06:23 AM
Lastly, the overall champion China, posing for photo.!:p
any cute ones?;)

eaglehelang
07-20-2009, 06:53 AM
i know the answer : becoz he is anti China fans....

Actually ah, like Limsy reply you, there're certain China players he like. LOL, like that, he also 'anti' Fuzzy pair and WPT/CEH, critise them even worse(yes, even when they win) than the young Chen.:D

limsy
07-20-2009, 09:22 AM
:( sigh, I feel sad for limsy, who just demonstrated to everyone how badminton sports could be insulted and destroyed...

I feel sad for badminton, feel sad for BC... what a dark day!!! :eek::eek:

shhhhh,they are the one that in the stadium,watch the match mah;)
i am the one that simply fake the figure just because i been labeled as anti chen xiao jia,anti china fans;)
see,thats the truth.;)
no need feel sad,cheers up,i deserve all those comment;)

gemini12
07-20-2009, 09:40 AM
somehow, people dont like contrarian.Limsy dont worry there are some of your comment that i agreed with u.

I too feel that there are nothing exceptional about CXJ. Even though she won most of her matches and is the champion. I have seen better potential players but these are the players that lost.

The boys single also the same but i would said that Tian is pretty good but i wont said the same about Shawal who has a fancy style who managed to beat the Chinese to gointo semi. He is lucky but he sure got fighting spirit.

That's Fighting Spirit is Junior tournament edge but this wont be the same in the senior tournament. Just fighting spirit alone wont make u a champion but could get u somewhere.


It was a boring WD from Semi final- nothing exceptional. Same as MX.

The BD should be somethingbut turn up to be anti climax especially for the Malaysian. The INA is good but the Malaysian could have win.
Still feel that BD will be our good chance in the WJC.

limsy
07-20-2009, 09:46 AM
somehow, people dont like contrarian.Limsy dont worry there are some of your comment that i agreed with u.

I too feel that there are nothing exceptional about CXJ. Even though she won most of her matches and is the champion. I have seen better potential players but these are the players that lost.

The boys single also the same but i would said that Tian is pretty good but i wont said the same about Shawal who has a fancy style who managed to beat the Chinese to gointo semi. He is lucky but he sure got fighting spirit.

That's Fighting Spirit is Junior tournament edge but this wont be the same in the senior tournament. Just fighting spirit alone wont make u a champion but could get u somewhere.

It was a boring WD from Semi final- nothing exceptional. Same as MX.

The BD should be somethingbut turn up to be anti climax especially for the Malaysian. The INA is good but the Malaysian could have win.
Still feel that BD will be our good chance in the WJC.

and somehow i always agree with mostly what uncle gemini post:)
thanks.
hehe,i like syawal plays even he didnt win the match.
his backhand is just amazing,i pay attention on him since i saw his training:)

ye333
07-20-2009, 10:19 AM
Isn't that the typical "TH won by luck" argument (Super-strong opponents from China all got eliminated before meeting him...)?? :D:D

Oh, forgot to mention: you should add WCH after "barring".



No one viewed Taufik's win in OG04 as luck right? The skill levels of his opponents barring PG basically gifted the trophy to him and that's through no fault of his.

ye333
07-20-2009, 10:23 AM
Funny limsy got criticized... I think his comments are within limit. Of course not impartial -- but why should a fan be impartial?

Compare to those "generous LD" arguments, his "criticizing" is nothing. :cool:

limsy
07-20-2009, 10:25 AM
Funny limsy got criticized... Compare to those "generous LD" arguments, his "criticizing" is nothing. :cool:

no lar,only i been labeled as the one that have prejudis in this forum,others where got?;)
hardly see u to pay attention in junior tournament by the way:)

ye333
07-20-2009, 10:32 AM
Because I never got chance to watch junior matches... :D

Your comments are great. Thanks.

Btw, any more comments on the MS final? Is it Iskandar played worse than team event, or THW played better, or both?


no lar,only i been labeled as the one that have prejudis in this forum,others where got?;)
hardly see u to pay attention in junior tournament by the way:)

badMania
07-20-2009, 10:35 AM
Funny limsy got criticized... I think his comments are within limit. Of course not impartial -- but why should a fan be impartial?

Compare to those "generous LD" arguments, his "criticizing" is nothing. :cool:

Which is I posted that I find the counter-arguments very amusing. limsy has every rights to post his own comments, the same that I would do whenever I watch any tourneys. He mentioned his observations and he backed it up with reasons and personally I found those reasons acceptable :cool: Of course, others might disagree...but to comdemn limsy just because of his critical comments of Chen Xiaojia??

limsy
07-20-2009, 10:36 AM
Because I never got chance to watch junior matches... :D

Your comments are great. Thanks.

Btw, any more comments on the MS final? Is it Iskandar played worse than team event, or THW played better, or both?

thanks:)
obviously u didnt read the mj thread:p
iskandar didnt play his usual match,he is obviously under pressure and yet he didnt show his hunger for the title
tian hou wei played his normal match,and he is all fired up to shut the crowd mouth
and this shown after iskandar had a 5-1 lead
so,u can imagine the outcome;)
pretty much like og 2008 ms final,one sided.

ye333
07-20-2009, 10:48 AM
Hmm... You know what, I think Mas MSs lack in such "fighting spirit" and their style is not aggressive enough. The only exception is WCH. :cool:


thanks:)
obviously u didnt read the mj thread:p
iskandar didnt play his usual match,he is obviously under pressure and yet he didnt show his hunger for the title
tian hou wei played his normal match,and he is all fired up to shut the crowd mouth
and this shown after iskandar had a 5-1 lead
so,u can imagine the outcome;)
pretty much like og 2008 ms final,one sided.

limsy
07-20-2009, 10:53 AM
Hmm... You know what, I think Mas MSs lack in such "fighting spirit" and their style is not aggressive enough. The only exception is WCH. :cool:

iskandar really tried at tian 18 point 2nd set(and yes,it is really late),that is a long long rally(like one minutes?) constructed well by iskandar but ended up with an unforce error from iskandar.

unlike syawal,tee jing yi and goh/pang,iskandar game didnt really give me saw the word:fighting spirit.
anyway,there is still time before wjc:)
hope mas contigent will learn from that.

badMania
07-20-2009, 10:53 AM
Given that I prefer the Doubles over the Singles (esp MD and XD), I am very glad that Angga Pratama/Yohanes Rendy Sugiarto delivered INA's FIRST AJC Boy's Doubles title yesterday!!

I am waiting for the WJC with great interest. And again, INA's chance should be the highest in BD. I am not sure how many pairs each country can have but if there are only 2 pairs, then for sure, our current AJC champion + Mohd Ulinnuha/Berry Angriawan will be the representatives! If 3, then I agree with Sandy that INA should send Didit Juang/Seiko Wahyu.

They should win as many ranking pts as possible to ensure being seeded in the top 8 and hopefully no bad draws in the individual event :o

The WJC will be held in Alor Star, Kedah from 23 Oct-01 Nov.

limsy
07-20-2009, 10:56 AM
Given that I prefer the Doubles over the Singles (esp MD and XD), I am very glad that Angga Pratama/Yohanes Rendy Sugiarto delivered INA's FIRST AJC Boy's Doubles title yesterday!!

I am waiting for the WJC with great interest. And again, INA's chance should be the highest in BD. I am not sure how many pairs each country can have but if there are only 2 pairs, then for sure, our current AJC champion + Mohd Ulinnuha/Berry Angriawan will be the representatives! If 3, then I agree with Sandy that INA should send Didit Juang/Seiko Wahyu.

They should win as many ranking pts as possible to ensure being seeded in the top 8 and hopefully no bad draws in the individual event :o

The WJC will be held in Alor Star, Kedah from 23 Oct-01 Nov.

being highlighted by krisna and sandy,i always hope high on ullin/berry but ended up with disapointment,but,on otherside,if they didnt perform well still can reach quater,what if they perform well?:cool:
dangerous pair with good coach:)

badMania
07-20-2009, 11:06 AM
being highlighted by krisna and sandy,i always hope high on ullin/berry but ended up with disapointment,but,on otherside,if they didnt perform well still can reach quater,what if they perform well?:cool:
dangerous pair with good coach:)

We always have high hopes on Ulin/Berry because they have been INA's best BD pair, not counting Angga/Rendy because they are newly paired up of course :cool: Despite the disappointment of losing to the top-seed so early, that remained as their only loss during the entire WJC, having beaten a KOR pair also in R16.

But again, Sandy also mentioned that Yohanes Rendy Sugiarto has been INA's best BD player. It's just that he needs a good partner. This time, he found a good one in Angga Pratama (whose regular partner was Kevin Alexander). Remember, Rendy also partnered Ryan Agung Saputra in last year's WJC and pushed the eventual champion Mak Hee Chun/Teo Kok Siang to the limit, losing in rubber-sets 21-19, 13-21, 14-21.

Then again, it's a pity that Mak/Teo were split up immediately after WJC and now Mak Hee Chun is developing a good partnership with Tan Wee Kiong, while Teo Kok Siang is currently languishing without a good partner.

limsy
07-20-2009, 11:09 AM
We always have high hopes on Ulin/Berry because they have been INA's best BD pair, not counting Angga/Rendy because they are newly paired up of course :cool: Despite the disappointment of losing to the top-seed so early, that remained as their only loss during the entire WJC, having beaten a KOR pair also in R16.

But again, Sandy also mentioned that Yohanes Rendy Sugiarto has been INA's best BD player. It's just that he needs a good partner. This time, he found a good one in Angga Pratama (whose regular partner is Kevin Alexander). Remember, Rendy also partnered Ryan Agung Saputra in last year's WJC and pushed the eventual champion Mak Hee Chun/Teo Kok Siang to the limit, losing in rubber-sets 21-19, 13-21, 14-21.

Then again, it's a pity that Mak/Teo were split up immediately after WJC and now Mak Hee Chun is developing a good partnership with Tan Wee Kiong, while Teo Kok Siang is currently languishing without a good partner.

actually,i think it is a tradition for malaysia md ajc/wjc
only one will have good future,start from ccm,kkk,tbh and now mak hee chun
but i hope teo kok siang can still perform in future,he is one of my fave:o
i prefer mak/teo patnership more than mak/tan eventhough tan is one of my fave to,i love to see mak/teo play on court:)

ctjcad
07-20-2009, 11:44 AM
Because I never got chance to watch junior matches... :D
...
..have you read badMania's post, listing those AJC or even WJC winners??..:confused:;)

Which is I posted that I find the counter-arguments very amusing. limsy has every rights to post his own comments, the same that I would do whenever I watch any tourneys. He mentioned his observations and he backed it up with reasons and personally I found those reasons acceptable :cool: Of course, others might disagree...but to comdemn limsy just because of his critical comments of Chen Xiaojia??
..which "counter-arguments are very amusing"??:confused:..who "condemn limsy just because of his critical comments of Chen XJ"??..:confused:

ctjcad
07-20-2009, 12:55 PM
...
Next time ah, INA pls sponsor lah. AJC already 3rd yr no takers, Msia have to host :p
...
..prior to the last few "fiery" posts, in this thread, i thought "Hey, why don't M'sia hold the Junior tourneys (AJC or WJC) and even the Youth WC every single yr. Afterall, our M'sian BCers are, arguably, the liveliest & the most enthusiastic ones of the bunch. To say the least, even a non-BWF sanctioned, regional, Junior Championship could generate more than 40+ pages of a thread.:eek: If not for them active M'sian BCers, where would we hear all of this report. Add to that they would sacrifice money, time and sweat to go and watch those tourneys and report them back to us."..

But then after these last few posts and the admission from limsy, in the recent posts, that he has lost interest & will no longer perform such adventure and endeavors in the future, then i'm afraid we have to find other volunteers to do so. And perhaps INA should hold those events..:confused:;)

Btw, thanks for the reporting effort from limsy and others who went & saw the matches. And for the pics, too, from our Labis & george@chongwei.:cool:

Btw, the gal, squatting in the middle in post #814, 1st pic, the way she smiles reminds me a bit of Zhu Lin. And the gal, on the far right, reminds me a bit of Lu Lan.
Can suetyan identify the CHN team members, in those pics, for us??..:)
And yes, i finally see the pic of the KOR player, Choi (in one of Labis' photos). Is that really a look of a "serious" nerd??..:confused:

gemini12
07-20-2009, 09:04 PM
well over here we have some passionate Bcer who always kept update on the upcoming badminton tournament.

for eg. Badmania- is all about Indonesian Players

Suetyan- is allabout China Player

Limsy- is more for Malaysian Player

Its interesting and hopefully all of them will keep all the Bcer reader amused and inform on all development.

Keep up the good work despite criticism and differences. That.s what make it interesting.

Poor Limsy, was at the Juara Stadium all week watching AJC from the start and hope to give good update on what he thought.

Good job.

phaarix
07-20-2009, 10:26 PM
well over here we have some passionate Bcer who always kept update on the upcoming badminton tournament.

for eg. Badmania- is all about Indonesian Players

Suetyan- is allabout China Player

Limsy- is more for Malaysian Player

Its interesting and hopefully all of them will keep all the Bcer reader amused and inform on all development.

Keep up the good work despite criticism and differences. That.s what make it interesting.

Poor Limsy, was at the Juara Stadium all week watching AJC from the start and hope to give good update on what he thought.

Good job.

Yeah it's very interesting to hear the goings on from other countries! Especially for the juniors, otherwise I wouldn't have a clue about which up and comers to watch out for.

george@chongwei
07-21-2009, 02:16 AM
btw, i manage to took some video recordings of that final day's matches..especially ms and md:cool:
not sure whether i need to upload it or not as the quality i can see is very bad and i think it's very worse:D:( moreover, my seating place is not near to the court too.

george@chongwei
07-21-2009, 02:17 AM
btw limsy, it seems like someone took your photos from your facebook or u worked for badzine eh?:cool:
look at here>> http://badzine.info/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1938:asian-junior-champs-none-can-top-china&catid=8:international&Itemid=39

the 2 pics taken by you?:eek::rolleyes:

eaglehelang
07-21-2009, 02:38 AM
..

But then after these last few posts and the admission from limsy, in the recent posts, that he has lost interest & will no longer perform such adventure and endeavors in the future, then i'm afraid we have to find other volunteers to do so. And perhaps INA should hold those events..:confused:;)


And yes, i finally see the pic of the KOR player, Choi (in one of Labis' photos). Is that really a look of a "serious" nerd??..:confused:

We can still get limsy's reports & thoughts in private, either thru PM or msn.;)
Korea's Choi, doesnt look so nerdy in Labis's photos, I'll check out the other photos and see.

Krisna
07-21-2009, 03:41 AM
But again, Sandy also mentioned that Yohanes Rendy Sugiarto has been INA's best BD player. It's just that he needs a good partner. This time, he found a good one in Angga Pratama (whose regular partner was Kevin Alexander). Remember, Rendy also partnered Ryan Agung Saputra in last year's WJC and pushed the eventual champion Mak Hee Chun/Teo Kok Siang to the limit, losing in rubber-sets 21-19, 13-21, 14-21.


Many coaches in INA seem to agree with Sandy that Rendy is the best talent we have at this time... :cool: Ullin-Berry are talented and know how to win, but Rendy is considered half-a-class above them... :cool:

limsy
07-21-2009, 03:55 AM
btw limsy, it seems like someone took your photos from your facebook or u worked for badzine eh?:cool:
look at here>> http://badzine.info/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1938:asian-junior-champs-none-can-top-china&catid=8:international&Itemid=39

the 2 pics taken by you?:eek::rolleyes:

good observation,yes
i send the photo to them;)


We can still get limsy's reports & thoughts in private, either thru PM or msn.;)
Korea's Choi, doesnt look so nerdy in Labis's photos, I'll check out the other photos and see.

aiya,u didnt saw his photo in meh?in md podium?
i thought u had see all the photo;)

jasonmarc
07-21-2009, 04:57 AM
well over here we have some passionate Bcer who always kept update on the upcoming badminton tournament.

for eg. Badmania- is all about Indonesian Players

Suetyan- is allabout China Player

Limsy- is more for Malaysian Player

Its interesting and hopefully all of them will keep all the Bcer reader amused and inform on all development.

Keep up the good work despite criticism and differences. That.s what make it interesting.

Poor Limsy, was at the Juara Stadium all week watching AJC from the start and hope to give good update on what he thought.

Good job.

It will be more interesting if Pemuda, Cooler, Bananakid and xBall......taking part...........:D:D

eaglehelang
07-21-2009, 07:39 AM
aiya,u didnt saw his photo in meh?in md podium?
i thought u had see all the photo;)

I just saw them - loads slowly & jams up my PC lah. Choi really looks like 'serious' nerd there,like he studies whole day. :D

pjswift
07-21-2009, 09:23 AM
ok
i wont say anything anymore after i come back from stadium of any tournament:rolleyes:
if ur opponent do 15 mistake in a set,i think U,LI SUETYAN can win with a margin like 21-10,no?and yet she need to deuce deuce just can win yesterday:rolleyes:
i critic because her game DIDNT tell me she is national junior championship of CHINA:cool:
she should be more better than what i saw,i mean,really MORE
anyway,cxj case end here
wont waste my time on this
do my research better
so,OK,my fault,happy?
want apology?
SORRY
Well, limsy, your comments and observations have always been excellent because you back them up with generally well thought out reasons.I enjoy them.There's no need to apologise for your opinions.
I gather you have high expectations of an AJC GS champion's skills so you're rather disappointed cxj is not as gifted as you would have liked. But winning is not just about skills. It's about strategy and stamina as well. Strategy can be about winning through the opponent's mistakes. Some players may have better skills but they may also be error-prone. In which case,the effective strategy would be to target the opponents' 'weakness' in giving cheap points.
If CHN coaches are smarter in all-round thinking and their players can execute accordingly, well, they deserve the credit.
Clearly, one weapon CHN used here is vocal aggression like shouting. Actually, instead of being intimidated, the non-CHN opponents should feel flattered and know that the CHN coach is indirectly saying the non-CHN opponent is better than their CHN player and thus use that compliment to play with more confidence.
CHN players only use non-badminton tactics on their better opponents, never on opponents they consider inferior to them.
Anyway, the AJC is the early stage like primary school exams.It's too early to tell how well they will turn out in future. In the long run, the more gifted ones will do better provided they have both the mental and physical stamina to propel them forward.
Thank you so much for your comprehensive analysis, especially of the players.

eRa@에라
07-21-2009, 05:13 PM
Haish Limsy no need merajuk one... do keep posting your thoughts and I do agree with you all the way on this particular CHN player... I was not intimated by her screaming, but actually irritated and annoyed cos it filled the whole stadium and my ears as well...till i felt like filling her mouth with some sound proof stuff....kekeke....
and yes pjswift is right too... maybe it's the plan, to scream your lungs out and intimidated your opponent... but from what I can see, she screamed regardless of her opponents inferior or superior... looking at the trend in CHN national team, I presume she won't go far... height issue has been why some of the athletes left the team, and this girl is basically shorter than any CHN players I've ever seen...*shrugged* just my opinion... and limsy, she sure looked like dying each match...:D

alvern
07-23-2009, 04:26 AM
Tian Hou Wei. The BS winner. Walking to register himself to play in the court. At this very moment too, he got a lot of boos when walking past the mas fans here:D
Maybe he's quite frustrated and you can see it from his matches. He's on FIRE and all his smashes is superb. He also shouts very LOUD everytime he won a point.;) Another Left hander player from China. :rolleyes: That's why Iskandar is in trouble. UNder pressure and didn't play with his normal game.:o

Really don't understand why the malaysian contingent at that part of the crowd jeer-ed at him. Very unsporting behaviour of them.

limsy
07-23-2009, 04:33 AM
Really don't understand why the malaysian contingent at that part of the crowd jeer-ed at him. Very unsporting behaviour of them.

u need to know that not every fans is sensible;)

george@chongwei
07-23-2009, 07:00 AM
Really don't understand why the malaysian contingent at that part of the crowd jeer-ed at him. Very unsporting behaviour of them.
I hope the MAS fans won't follow the ina fans as in istora booing mas players.:(;)

limsy
07-23-2009, 12:18 PM
hehe,
i think i will upload photo here in saturday,stay turned:D
in good mood:)
to be fair
i will only post one player one photo+podium photo
if the photo abit blur,anyone mind?
please tell me ya:)

eRa@에라
07-23-2009, 05:14 PM
I hope the MAS fans won't follow the ina fans as in istora booing mas players.:(;)


Aiseh George... normal wat to boo the opponent... but not like INA boo us in INA Open, I still think we mild one, but dunno la... I havent seen the extreme ones... though e-time we play against CHN, mmg that's the scenario la... haish... biasa la... ;) still, when INA juniors played against CHN we support INA ... regardless of what happened at istora last month...:)

jasonmarc
07-23-2009, 09:44 PM
Aiseh George... normal wat to boo the opponent... but not like INA boo us in INA Open, I still think we mild one, but dunno la... I havent seen the extreme ones... though e-time we play against CHN, mmg that's the scenario la... haish... biasa la... ;) still, when INA juniors played against CHN we support INA ... regardless of what happened at istora last month...:)

Yes, i think mas fans have know this, dont learn those bad things........;)

Cheer for the player u support but dont 'boo' the opponent........ :D

tjl_vanguard
07-25-2009, 12:52 AM
btw, some side news here.. chong wei were seating at the yonex stinging booth here..and SSM of Korea were here.. some of the Koreans male juniors wanted to take chong wei pics, but i think they are too shy, so SSM accompanied 1 of them to go..:D

during the wd match, there's some lighting problem in the stadium.. some part of the stadium is not bright though..anyway, during the wd match, chong wei was the centre of attraction there as many ppl especially childrens, rush to the stringing booth there to take his pics..lol:p..

saw many cuties there too..i can see mostly from, ahem, japan and china;):p
this time koreans girls is not my taste though:D:D
so ur eyes were fixed on japan n china cuties instead of the match huh?? pandai u.. haha

limsy
07-25-2009, 02:18 AM
erm,testing first.dunno have or not.(photo)

limsy
07-25-2009, 02:20 AM
1st and 5th picture is mitani minatsu,nice?
2nd is sapsiree,cute hair tight:p
4th is 2004 athens silver medalist in ms,no one should forget his name right?
3rd is ratchanok,the rising star.

ctjcad
07-25-2009, 02:22 AM
..but what did you do with the re-sizing??..did you resize them proportionately??..some of the pics look stretched vertically/horizontally??..:confused::p

Use Microsoft Paint (default program in Microsoft OS, if you use it on your computer). Then Image->Stretch/skew, use same number for both horizontal & vertical..

limsy
07-25-2009, 02:39 AM
1st photo is ullin/destaria
2nd is ina team after end of the day match
3rs is pang zheng lin/goh jian hao+yap kim hock and sun chen hua

limsy
07-25-2009, 02:43 AM
..but what did you do with the re-sizing??..did you resize them proportionately??..some of the pics look stretched vertically/horizontally??..:confused::p

Use Microsoft Paint (default program in Microsoft OS, if you use it on your computer). Then Image->Stretch/skew, use same number for both horizontal & vertical..

erm,i also dunno lar:(
and the file size is big also,i am not pro on this:(
haha,i use more than 15 minutes on that 1st post.
i still figuring. but i cant spend long time on this,still have many thing to do,many people to meet today,because i will back to college tomorow and start my 2nd sem.so i need to stop here ya:(
even i post also it seem not nice because the ratio is weird:(
after i learn,then i will back to post again.sorry.
enjoy the photo of mitani ya(from the request of a few bcer):p

george@chongwei
07-25-2009, 10:37 PM
lol limsy, what have u done to those pics?:D

copadh
07-26-2009, 08:52 AM
Originally Posted by badMania http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1212991#post1212991)
But again, Sandy also mentioned that Yohanes Rendy Sugiarto has been INA's best BD player. It's just that he needs a good partner. This time, he found a good one in Angga Pratama (whose regular partner was Kevin Alexander). Remember, Rendy also partnered Ryan Agung Saputra in last year's WJC and pushed the eventual champion Mak Hee Chun/Teo Kok Siang to the limit, losing in rubber-sets 21-19, 13-21, 14-21.


Many coaches in INA seem to agree with Sandy that Rendy is the best talent we have at this time... :cool: Ullin-Berry are talented and know how to win, but Rendy is considered half-a-class above them... :cool:

According to Bambang Supriyanto (Pratama MD Coach), Rendy/Angga will not be permanent pair. They will be paired again on WJC, but Bambang preferred Angga/Ryan for long term, and will looking for another boy to play with Rendy. If his decision is right, INA will have two promising MD, but if he's wrong...:(

Jagdpanther
07-29-2009, 10:44 AM
1st and 5th picture is mitani minatsu,nice?

She's not as cute as I expected... :o
Thanks anyway.

More (other JPN gals, I mean), please. :D

limsy
07-29-2009, 11:33 AM
She's not as cute as I expected... :o
Thanks anyway.

More (other JPN gals, I mean), please. :D

haha,ours defination different:p

haha,technical problem.:p
see in my facebook lah;)

eRa@에라
07-30-2009, 07:20 AM
limsy... thought i send you the manual already...kekekeke... you got microsoft office picture manager? shud be included in your MOffice pack... will only took you seconds to re-size the photo...

eaglehelang
07-31-2009, 07:27 AM
For those interested, RTM 1 will showing AJC matches at tonight, 31 july 2009 at 11.30 pm Msia time.

george@chongwei
07-31-2009, 09:20 AM
For those interested, RTM 1 will showing AJC matches at tonight, 31 july 2009 at 11.30 pm Msia time.
thanks for the info:D:D

limsy
08-02-2009, 05:15 AM
haha,i did saw myself in the tv:p
haha
still a great moment to share:)

george@chongwei
08-04-2009, 01:19 AM
yup, saw u busy talking talking with era there..:D:D

limsy
08-04-2009, 03:49 PM
yup, saw u busy talking talking with era there..:D:D

we were betting for the pizza that i said goh/pang can win from 14-20 down
and i enjoy it in the final day of individual:D

george@chongwei
08-06-2009, 01:53 AM
Means that Pizza was treated by Era on the final day?:p