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Greetings,

News received saying that both LCW and LD will participate in the 2009 Indonesia Open.

In the latest World Rankings, LCW is still No.1, but LD has dropped to No.3. This means that they will be in the same half of the draw.

Will we get to watch a LCW-vs-LD match at the semi-finals?

Source: The Star Online (http://thestar.com.my/sports/story.asp?file=/2009/6/4/sports/4043700&sec=sports)

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A Lee Chong Wei - Lin Dan semi-final on the cards this time
By LIM TEIK HUAT

PETALING JAYA: A possible showdown in the semi-finals between world No.1 Lee Chong Wei and Olympic champion Lin Dan sets the stage for a thrilling Indonesian Open badminton championships in Jakarta from June 16-21.

Both players skipped the Indonesian Open last year to concentrate on preparing for the Beijing Olympics but this time, they have committed themselves to the event, which will be held back-to-back to the Singapore Open from June 9-14.

Their presence in the Indonesian Open is no surprise because it is the last Super Series tournament offering ranking points to the World Championships in Hyderabad from Aug 10-16.
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BAM national chief coach Rashid Sidek said that it would be a very interesting Indonesian Open this year.

“Lin Dan has been selective of tournaments he plays in and he surely wants to do well in the Indonesian Open to get back into second place in the rankings,” he said.

“It will be a tough Indonesian Open to win as all the top players will be present in their bid to improve on their rankings to get a better seeding for the world championships."
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Cheers... chris-ccc
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Owh, i shall wait for another Lin dan vs Lee Chong Wei. Refreshing all the LCW/ KKK/TBh's past winning championships just now, i couldn't wait for other great matches to be watch.
Owh, for those who said LIn Dan can't play in 'southeast asia' , shut them up, Lin Dan! though i hope LCW can stop you in semifinal, just be there and play, mr. dan.

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Greetings,

News received saying that both LCW and LD will participate in the 2009 Indonesia Open.
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..any news source abt Lin Dan officially coming to the INA Open??..:confused:

..any news source abt Lin Dan officially coming to the INA Open??..:confused:



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ctjcad ... Did you not click on the source?: The Star Online (http://thestar.com.my/sports/story.asp?file=/2009/6/4/sports/4043700&sec=sports)
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..but noticed the word "possible".
Anyway, i got another confirmation from an article in badzine.info (another thread). I guess, for now, we'll see if LinDan truly follows up and participates..

..but noticed the word "possible".
Anyway, i got another confirmation from an article in badzine.info (another thread). I guess, for now, we'll see if Lin Dan truly follows up and participates..



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If Lin Dan doesn't follow up and participates in the 2009 Indonesia Open, could he be dropped to No.4 in the World Rankings?, therefore could it be a LCW-vs-LD match at the Finals of the 2009 WC?
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..perhaps the discussion is suited to be discussed here:cool::
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=226

Owh, i shall wait for another Lin dan vs Lee Chong Wei. Refreshing all the LCW/ KKK/TBh's past winning championships just now, i couldn't wait for other great matches to be watch.
Owh, for those who said LIn Dan can't play in 'southeast asia' , shut them up, Lin Dan! though i hope LCW can stop you in semifinal, just be there and play, mr. dan.

The door to the Ina SS is wide open....welcome to Jakarta!!

haha,i will say yes if lindan come:p

Lindan will sure come next year to singapore. Am sure he wants to go to Universal Studios with XXF. ;)

The door to the Ina SS is wide open....welcome to Jakarta!!

Yeah! Come to Jakarta so we can witness Taufik defeat you one more time, Lin Dan... ;) Taufik needs to be victorious in order to further promote his THL clothing line... ;) So he is very well motivated to become the 7 time INA Open champ... :cool:

Yeah! Come to Jakarta so we can witness Taufik defeat you one more time, Lin Dan... ;) Taufik needs to be victorious in order to further promote his THL clothing line... ;) So he is very well motivated to become the 7 time INA Open champ... :cool:

Sound like a little boy got lost in the jungle and when darkness comes, he got real scared, wetting his pants, but thump his chest and yell out loud "I am not afraid of anyone hiding out there so come on out right now and face me!!!"...:p:D
Now, jokes aside, looking at the draw, if TH hopes to win, this is the chance...first only one CJ/BCL/LD/LCW/PSH/SS will emerge from the other half and the top gun in TH half is also an aging PG:)

I wonder if Peter Gade will reach some of his best badminton towards the very end of his career, just like Poul Erik Hoyer Larsen. aside from the weird toe/rib injuries and viruses, he seems to be moving steadily higher in terms of his play.

Its exciting to know about the LCW vs LD SF in INA open. I do hope that LCW will be in form and hungry for a victory against him, seeing that he will be abit tired with SIN open. Another matchup is Taufik Vs Gade in QF that should be interesting aswell. Will Peter take his revenge from this years AE tournament, or will Taufik have his number once again :D
I predict TAUFIK VS LD FINALS hehe

Now, jokes aside, looking at the draw, if TH hopes to win, this is the chance...first only one CJ/BCL/LD/LCW/PSH/SS will emerge from the other half and the top gun in TH half is also an aging PG:)

That's fair: aging Taufik vs. aging Peter... ;)


I predict TAUFIK VS LD FINALS hehe

I agree with this... :cool:

Lucky Taufik. ;)

Its exciting to know about the LCW vs LD SF in INA open. I do hope that LCW will be in form and hungry for a victory against him, seeing that he will be abit tired with SIN open.

Another matchup is Taufik Vs Gade in QF that should be interesting as well. Will Peter take his revenge from this years AE tournament, or will Taufik have his number once again. :D

I predict TAUFIK VS LD FINALS hehe



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Hi apu4life ,

You and Krisna are more daring than me in our predictions... predicting the MS FINAL :p:p:p

The best I can predict is for the Semi-Finals. IMHO, we could find LCW, PG, LD and TH all there.

:):):)
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Hi apu4life ,

You and Krisna are more daring than me in our predictions... predicting the MS FINAL :p:p:p

The best I can predict is for the Semi-Finals. IMHO, we could find LCW, PG, LD and TH all there.

:):):)
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What do you want la :P I guess both of us are Taufik dieheart fans hihi, and what else can be better than LD vs Taufik Final (not to mention the OMGLY LD vs LCW that i do hope happens hihi)

What do you want la :P I guess both of us are Taufik dieheart fans hihi, and what else can be better than LD vs Taufik Final (not to mention the OMGLY LD vs LCW that i do hope happens hihi)

No...the final will be: TH vs LCW

It will be very very difficult for LD to defeat LCW in Jakarta.

As for LCW, playing in Jakarta is like a cat eating a fish...[nyam...nyam...nyam]

As for LD, playing in Jakarta is like a cat being forced to eat vegetable....

Lin Dan will play with taufik hidayat in final

Lin Dan will play with taufik hidayat in final.



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For BCers who are lost in our conversations, here is the draw for the Mens Singles: click here (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/draw.aspx?id=F5786AF0-6120-4871-B55C-0FF9BE3315CB&draw=1)
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No...the final will be: TH vs LCW

It will be very very difficult for LD to defeat LCW in Jakarta.

As for LCW, playing in Jakarta is like a cat eating a fish...[nyam...nyam...nyam]

As for LD, playing in Jakarta is like a cat being forced to eat vegetable....
As long as Taufik is in Finals, it's all fine with me :D hehe

It will be very very difficult for LD to defeat LCW in Jakarta.


Hey, would like to see this be proven. ;)

As long as Taufik is in Finals, it's all fine with me :D hehe
a'hem. There you go. Who say THL is a crap?

That's fair: aging Taufik vs. aging Peter... ;)



I agree with this... :cool:lucky again for TH, just like in the 04 Athen OG, easy path for TH, only have to deal with PG. Look at both draws, TH faces no chinese or dark horse players. Elevator journey to the final for TH. However, this time around, LD is no shon mo.

Lin Dan will be a bit tired after taking down Chen Jin, then maybe taking down Lee Chong Wei.
How amazing would it be too see Taufik Defeat Lin dan :O

Lin Dan will be a bit tired after taking down Chen Jin, then maybe taking down Lee Chong Wei.
How amazing would it be too see Taufik Defeat Lin dan :O

:eek:...seriously...? :D:D LOL

Dont worry,...CJ will suffered injury and LD will win in that QF......for sure..! :D:D:D...so LD wont get even sweated with that act..........

lucky again for TH, just like in the 04 Athen OG, easy path for TH, only have to deal with PG. Look at both draws, TH faces no chinese or dark horse players. Elevator journey to the final for TH. However, this time around, LD is no shon mo.

"LD is not as strong as everyone thinks when playing in countries of tropical climate, especially Jakarta," I said in an interview with Bananakid and Cooler

:eek:...seriously...? :D:D LOL

Dont worry,...CJ will suffered injury and LD will win in that QF......for sure..! :D:D:D...so LD wont get even sweated with that act..........

Man I hate this, so unsportsmanlike :( I hope LCW thrashes him so bad so he will know how LCW feels when he goes up to the final stage and plays Lin Dan. Its really unfair to see a fit Lin Dan getting "pass-bye's" comparing to other players that played the best badminton they have in order to get into finals... Teach him a lesson pls LCW/TH :D

Man I hate this, so unsportsmanlike :( I hope LCW thrashes him so bad so he will know how LCW feels when he goes up to the final stage and plays Lin Dan. Its really unfair to see a fit Lin Dan getting "pass-bye's" comparing to other players that played the best badminton they have in order to get into finals... Teach him a lesson pls LCW/TH :D

Things like this happened many, many times and most of them were committed by the Chinese team. That's why personally I have never admitted the true / real power/supremacy of Chinese MS players individually. They are not as strong as you think.

Things like this happened many, many times and most of them were committed by the Chinese team. That's why personally I have never admitted the true / real power/supremacy of Chinese MS players individually. They are not as strong as you think.

Why doesnt the BWF do somethign about it? No proofs? I know this happened many times, but im just wondering as to why haven't anyone sanctionned the teams that do this?

Why doesnt the BWF do somethign about it? No proofs?

I think, it is 'legal'. Like it or not, it is. Unethical? Maybe. I'd like to see other countries to have more players and fight this. I think the best defense is the best offence. Don't judge China, Judge your team.

the chances are pretty high tho:p

before we talk abt Semi, maybe Andre can upset LD?

before we talk abt Semi, maybe Andre can upset LD?

The way he has been playing, the only one Andre can now upset is his coach :o

The way he has been playing, the only one Andre can now upset is his coach :o

yes,...and Andre's coach was Hendrawan...right..? :rolleyes:

in your opinion taufik will play in final with LD?
and who is going to final in women singles?

yes,...and Andre's coach was Hendrawan...right..? :rolleyes:
no, i don't think his coach is hendrawan. he's from different club i think.

The way he has been playing, the only one Andre can now upset is his coach :o
Maybe it will be the other way round, maybe lin dan will be having food poisoning in INA and upset both his stomach and his coach:D

Maybe it will be the other way round, maybe lin dan will be having food poisoning in INA and upset both his stomach and his coach. :D



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Hi george@chongwei ...That's not a nice thing to say against Lin Dan. :(:(:(

Lin Dan still holds better winning records against most opponents, although he has never performed well in Indonesia.

IMHO, Lin Dan should make it to the Semi-Finals at this 2009 Indonesia Open.
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Hi george@chongwei ...That's not a nice thing to say against Lin Dan. :(:(:(

come on chris, just take it as a joke. no hard feelings ok?;)

no, i don't think his coach is hendrawan. he's from different club i think.

I think Andre is a Pelatnas player......:rolleyes:..!

I think Andre is a Pelatnas player......:rolleyes:..!
but according to here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andre_Kurniawan_Tedjono
AKT coach is Agus Dwi Santoso (Djarum) and his club is djarum;)

but according to here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andre_Kurniawan_Tedjono
AKT coach is Agus Dwi Santoso (Djarum) and his club is djarum;)

Yes, Agus is his Djarum club's coach,...but in Pelatnas Hendrawan was his coach.......as a national player ;)

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So we are here today, Wednesday 17-Jun-2009, at the 2009 Indonesia Open: click here (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/draw.aspx?id=F5786AF0-6120-4871-B55C-0FF9BE3315CB&draw=1)

Both LCW and LD need to win their first 3 matches (today, tomorrow and Friday) before they could face each other at the Semi-Finals on Saturday, 20-Jun-2009.

Hope that both of them can make it there. :):):)
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Hi george@chongwei ...That's not a nice thing to say against Lin Dan. :(:(:(

Lin Dan still holds better winning records against most opponents, although he has never performed well in Indonesia.

IMHO, Lin Dan should make it to the Semi-Finals at this 2009 Indonesia Open.
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I predict LD win go to the final and win IO09...the reason for LD to do well is obvious.

Maybe it will be the other way round, maybe lin dan will be having food poisoning in INA and upset both his stomach and his coach:Dthat's why bolehians alway feel dejected, they fantasize too much.

I predict LD win go to the final and win IO09...the reason for LD to do well is obvious.

Yes,..LD all the way.....because he is the 'God of Badminton'...........;)

that's why bolehians alway feel dejected, they fantasize too much.
what has this got to do with bolehians?
i thought this is suppose to be between china jia you fans and ina fans?;)

Yes,..LD all the way.....because he is the 'God of Badminton'...........;)

The reason for LD to wanna win IO09 is obvious and here is why...IO is one title LD does not have...the stadium/fans will favour INA players but should not affect LD much when there is a gap between LD and the rest, maybe LCW or a big maybe TH, may have a chance to beat LD in INA if the crowd is behind LCW and only if LCW can make it to MSSF (not easy to get past PSH/Simon) and hit top form to meet LD. Whenever the critics say LD is 'afraid' of playing in INA, it spurs/motivates LD to play harder to win the one title that eludes him, I think LD wanna win IO09 to shut the critics up once and for all, and if I am betting with real $$$, not with heart and cheap talk, it would be foolish not to bet on LD to win. Also, LD is rested and ready...and something to ponder, LD may meet CJ, will there be an arranged outcome? I hope not cos CJ today could not beat LD even if CJ play all out...for LD to lose one day and not favour to win OG12, we need a super player to come out from CHN or elsewhere (there is none now) and the age factor to erode LD of his trademark speed, fitness and power. Look at TH in 05, fantastic confident player and now, 'one step slower' and not the same 05 player.

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So we are here today, Wednesday 17-Jun-2009, at the 2009 Indonesia Open: click here (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/draw.aspx?id=F5786AF0-6120-4871-B55C-0FF9BE3315CB&draw=1)

Both LCW and LD need to win their first 3 matches (today, tomorrow and Friday) before they could face each other at the Semi-Finals on Saturday, 20-Jun-2009.

Hope that both of them can make it there. :):):)
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You worry too much, who can stop these two players storming into semi final,just like who can stop Lin Dan from winning to IO title? Lin Dan came prepare and eagerly proof he can win those illusive SE Asia titles and I think he will succeed.

waiting for the good shows... LCW, LD, TH...

You worry too much, who can stop these two players storming into semi final, just like who can stop Lin Dan from winning to IO title? Lin Dan came prepare and eagerly proof he can win those illusive SE Asia titles and I think he will succeed.



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I'm only hoping that we can have a 'LCW-vs-LD' match at this 2009 Indonesia Open.
LD should be the one to beat. But it should be interesting to see how LCW would tackle LD here

From what I see, here at Badminton Central, LCW could be getting lots of support from the Indonesian crowd.

It is a 'LCW (with Indonesian supporters) versus LD' match. Therefore, we should find ourselves an interesting match here. ;););)
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waiting for the good shows... LCW, LD, TH...



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IMHO, PG should be included for the good shows as well. ;););)
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You worry too much, who can stop these two players storming into semi final,just like who can stop Lin Dan from winning to IO title? Lin Dan came prepare and eagerly proof he can win those illusive SE Asia titles and I think he will succeed.

As badminton fans, what match-up does anyone hope to see...for me, it will be LD-LCW, most times entertaining and exciting, except for a few recent meetings that are uneventful. As for LCW getting into SF, facing either PSH/SS is not gonna be easy, especially SS in INA.

As badminton fans, what match-up does anyone hope to see...for me, it will be LD-LCW, most times entertaining and exciting, except for a few recent meetings that are uneventful. As for LCW getting into SF, facing either PSH/SS is not gonna be easy, especially SS in INA.

Yes, its true.....with his form now....he will find it hard to get past HH...in today's match up.....;);)

You worry too much, who can stop these two players storming into semi final,just like who can stop Lin Dan from winning to IO title? Lin Dan came prepare and eagerly proof he can win those illusive SE Asia titles and I think he will succeed.

Concur....if every things goes as planned,...LD shd be the Champion here ............:p:p

Or,..if LYB planned somethings else......to have CJ in SF......??? :confused::confused:

Concur....if every things goes as planned,...LD shd be the Champion here ............:p:p

Or,..if LYB planned somethings else......to have CJ in SF......??? :confused::confused:u over sciences it again, the 09 WC seedings have been decided already:p

u over sciences it again, the 09 WC seedings have been decided already:p

So it will be LD to play the SF......and CJ maybe will get 'waist injury' .....to lost easily to LD......again. :D:D:D

Yes, its true.....with his form now....he will find it hard to get past HH...in today's match up.....;);)

and suprisely he beat hh in 3 set:eek:

Hope this won't happen...

So it will be LD to play the SF......and CJ maybe will get 'waist injury' .....to lost easily to LD......again. :D:D:D

So it will be LD to play the SF......and CJ maybe will get 'waist injury' .....to lost easily to LD......again. :D:D:Dsure, why not? TH got a elevator ride to the IO final.

sure, why not? TH got a elevator ride to the IO final.
If Sony and TH get to SF, I think Sony may win over TH..anyway...INA is not like CHN to fix the game especially TH is independent....he wants to show that he is better than Sony.....
I could not wait to see LCW vs LD in semi...I think this time, LD will get more support from INA crowd due to recent incidents which they may boo LCW ( for some reasons, INA crowd has not booed LCW yet but cheering for LD so far)

and suprisely he beat hh in 3 set:eek:
LCW's just being kind to HH, not wanting to make him look bad by gifting him G2 with many unforced errors. Even in poor form it's unlikely LCW can be behind HH all the way in a game.
But LCW's under no pressure to beat LD. He will probably play his normal predictable game and do a favour to TH by working LD to the hilt.

This is not an important tournament, i think Lin dan will again entertain his fans, give away the game to Lee chong wei. Look at this year Swiss open 2009, did Lin dan give his best, i dont think so !

This is not an important tournament, i think Lin dan will again entertain his fans, give away the game to Lee chong wei. Look at this year Swiss open 2009, did Lin dan give his best, i dont think so !
I do not think LD will give a match to LCW...pls give any players credit who won...next time, some will argue that player A gives away a match..he is injured, blah..blah..should we say that CJ almist gave away his match to Dicky??:rolleyes:..should we say that CJ gave Sony a win in China Masters last year???:rolleyes:

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From what I see, here at Badminton Central, LCW could be getting lots of support from the Indonesian crowd.

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Maybe, but i don't think so. If LCW vs LD happen, LD will have a lot of support from indonesian crowd. Just See it :D

Maybe, but i don't think so. If LCW vs LD happen, LD will have a lot of support from indonesian crowd. Just See it :D
Well, but before meeting LCW, Lin have to defeat Chen Jin. Does history repeat once again? Will Chen retire in middle of the match to help Lin have more "gas" in the next match???:D:D:D

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From what I see, here at Badminton Central, LCW could be getting lots of support from the Indonesian crowd.


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big wrong.....me and my friends will support mr Lin Dan

So it will be LD to play the SF......and CJ maybe will get 'waist injury' .....to lost easily to LD......again. :D:D:D

or CJ should do something less controversial... should learn from HH playing LCW, practice with LD for 2-3 sets... help LD to warm up prior to playing LCW... :rolleyes:

chance of a SF between LCW and LD is high
LCW should beat PSH
while CHN wont risk LD, for CJ to play LCW...
unless CHN wanna know how CJ stand playing with LCW

So it will be LD to play the SF......and CJ maybe will get 'waist injury' .....to lost easily to LD......again. :D:D:D

In LD vs CJ match-ups, as far as I recall CJ already had 2 back injury retirements (and then next tourney the next week no back injury) :p:D. So this time, play until finish lah at least. Anyway, I think LD can beat CJ one, even when CJ good form.

or CJ should do something less controversial... should learn from HH playing LCW, practice with LD for 2-3 sets... help LD to warm up prior to playing LCW... :rolleyes:
Just play like OG SF is good enough, warmup LD enough to thrash LCW. :cool:

In LD vs CJ match-ups, as far as I recall CJ already had 2 back injury retirements (and then next tourney the next week no back injury) :p:D. So this time, play until finish lah at least. Anyway, I think LD can beat CJ one, even when CJ good form.

Yes,,:D.....I think Jonc108 didnt really follow yet...!

Just play like OG SF is good enough, warmup LD enough to thrash LCW. :cool:

Tha one was just classic......:D:D:D.

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From what I see, here at Badminton Central, LCW could be getting lots of support from the Indonesian crowd.


or maybe you are wrong, chris..,maybe its the other way round:rolleyes:

Maybe, but i don't think so. If LCW vs LD happen, LD will have a lot of support from indonesian crowd. Just See it :D
Agree. It's not just INA crowd.
CHN fans are louder and everywhere.
In SO MSF of BCL vs BP, it was CHN fans vs local fans.

[quote=jasonmarc;1190870]Yes,,:D.....I think Jonc108 didnt really follow yet...!

... that must because China Team has very good doctors...:D:D:D

i think this time should be like OG08, LD need warm up rather than energy-saving as he was not in many competitions lately :rolleyes:

[quote=jasonmarc;1190870]Yes,,:D.....I think Jonc108 didnt really follow yet...!

... that must because China Team has very good doctors...:D:D:D

i think this time should be like OG08, LD need warm up rather than energy-saving as he was not in many competitions lately :rolleyes:

LD got warm up, but CJ more 'warmed up" this time ;). Cos to the disappointment of many fans, there will be no LD vs LCW.

It will be CJ vs LCW or PSH. And CJ won the rubber at 21-4 :eek::eek:

The lost in third set is not like the LD ppl used to know... has he ever lost with such margin? ^^

[quote=Jonc108;1190964]

LD got warm up, but CJ more 'warmed up" this time ;). Cos to the disappointment of many fans, there will be no LD vs LCW.

It will be CJ vs LCW or PSH. And CJ won the rubber at 21-4 :eek::eek:

I vote for CJ vs LCW... see how PSH got punish in 1st set... LCW wanna met CJ after so long they both not meeting each other... :D:D

hmm,surprise indeed,cj vs lcw
maybe lyb confident that even cj can slay lcw after nguyen tm victory:)

so no ld and lcw clash in the semi final..so the crowd will cheer for chen jin tomorrow..to be honest, chen jin game has been improving day by day..i will not be surprise if chong wei lost to him tommorow though.

I've been waiting for the ld and lcw's showdown la.
This Chen Jin is such a killjoy. haha

Good luck for both. Make it a good semifinal.

Wow..Thats unbelievable...!

3 possibilities.....

1) Indra was right with....'LD cant play in INA Open' theory.....

2) Its pay back time for LD to 'let' CJ win as CJ 'let' LD thru to Olympic
final....

3) CJ is really on fire....and totally out play LD in the rubber.....(if this is the one,...LCW is in trouble tomorrow)

[quote=eaglehelang;1191024]

I vote for CJ vs LCW... see how PSH got punish in 1st set... LCW wanna met CJ after so long they both not meeting each other... :D:D

You got ur wish Era. Yeah, LCW 'miss" CJ, sooo long didnt meet already ;):D

hmm,surprise indeed,cj vs lcw
maybe lyb confident that even cj can slay lcw after nguyen tm victory:)

Perhaps it is a strategy to let Chen Jin play LCW in the semis.They both last met was in the AE'08 semis(correct me if I'm wrong),which already a year ago.From the perspective of China coaching staff, this is a good opportunity to see which level Chen Jin stand now,to the build-up of the upcoming World Championships.

LYB: Chen Jin got nothing to lose against the world#1 afterall.If Chen Jin lose this time,it's fine...let the horse come,I still got Lin Dan,BCL...:rolleyes:

[quote=Jonc108;1190964]

LD got warm up, but CJ more 'warmed up" this time ;). Cos to the disappointment of many fans, there will be no LD vs LCW.

It will be CJ vs LCW or PSH. And CJ won the rubber at 21-4 :eek::eek:

yah, i'm wrong this time... it's LD to warm up CJ for playing LCW this time :D:D:D

but seriously speaking, this could be another team strategy from LYB prior to WC, to test how CJ could deal with LCW... or a further vision, to build CJ up in the forthcoming 2-3 years for the next OG... like it or not, China is the only team that would do such as they always regard national honour as a overwhelming priority over personal honour...

personaly, I would like to see CJ be really strong, and TH / PG have their goodies back, so there could be 5 top forces instead of only LD/LCW rivalry. If this happens, we could have a better badminton world.

LYB: Chen Jin got nothing to lose against the world#1 afterall. If Chen Jin lose this time, it's fine...let the horse come, I still got Lin Dan, BCL...:rolleyes:



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:eek::eek::eek: What a shocker: CJ defeated LD 21-4 in the rubber. :eek::eek::eek:

Someone must have told LYB about this thread. So LYB wanted to play tricks on us here at Badminton Central. :confused::confused::confused:

Seriously though: I just came back from playing Badminton myself, so I didn't know what actually happened. Was LD injured, or CJ was playing exceptionally well?

Shall now go and read our Quarter-Finals thread.
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:eek::eek::eek: What a shocker: CJ defeated LD 21-4 in the rubber. :eek::eek::eek:

Someone must have told LYB about this thread. So LYB wanted to play tricks on us here at Badminton Central. :confused::confused::confused:

Seriously though: I just came back from playing Badminton myself, so I didn't know what actually happened. Was LD injured, or CJ was playing exceptionally well?

Shall now go and read our Quarter-Finals thread.
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Now I see your previous concern about the highly anticipated Lin Dan meeting Chong Wei in SF not coming thru ... Is not that bad either to have Chong Wei vs Chen Jin, may not have the drama but should be a solid and refreshing battle. Anyway, for Chong Wei is a lose-lose situation if he meets with lin Dan. If he wins then critics would say this SS is not the essential tournament and if he lose then he chokes again!
The only unfortunately thing is the match between CW vs CJ is not on TV court.
Took 65 minutes to overcame Lin Dan so I would have to say the fight is quite really, I think Lin Dan didn't want to push far in game 3 as he realized he might not win anyway, not on that day!
Taufik vs Soni on TV court, even a die hard like me find hard to generate interest.

Now I see your previous concern about the highly anticipated Lin Dan meeting Chong Wei in SF not coming thru ... Is not that bad either to have Chong Wei vs Chen Jin, may not have the drama but should be a solid and refreshing battle. Anyway, for Chong Wei is a lose-lose situation if he meets with lin Dan. If he wins then critics would say this SS is not the essential tournament and if he lose then he chokes again!
The only unfortunately thing is the match between CW vs CJ is not on TV court.
Took 65 minutes to overcame Lin Dan so I would have to say the fight is quite really, I think Lin Dan didn't want to push far in game 3 as he realized he might not win anyway, not on that day!
Taufik vs Soni on TV court, even a die hard like me find hard to generate interest.

WOW... poor organizing to the extreme of not showing LCW vs CJ.:eek: Could have easily take out a WS or WD match from the TV court.:(

I wonder if they would have the same plan if it would have been Lin Dan vs LCW.:confused:

WOW... poor organizing to the extreme of not showing LCW vs CJ.:eek: Could have easily take out a WS or WD match from the TV court.:(

I wonder if they would have the same plan if it would have been Lin Dan vs LCW.:confused:

Tuafik basically is untouchable and you have to "give face" to other events(WD,WS,XD), is a tough decision for the organizer. Should have done like Swiss Open separated into 2 sessions and broadcast every semi final match, sell more tickets that way :D

Wow..Thats unbelievable...!


1) Indra was right with....'LD cant play in INA Open' theory.....



indra is always right..
if LD wins titles, LD got chinese helpers from CJ, BCL and CY

if LD loses title, LD can't win in MO and IO.

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:eek::eek::eek:... Seriously though: I just came back from playing Badminton myself, so I didn't know what actually happened. Was LD injured, or CJ was playing exceptionally well?
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The lost in third set is not like the LD ppl used to know... has he ever lost with such margin? ^^
Wow..Thats unbelievable...!

3 possibilities.....

1) Indra was right with....'LD cant play in INA Open' theory.....

2) Its pay back time for LD to 'let' CJ win as CJ 'let' LD thru to Olympic
final....

3) CJ is really on fire....and totally out play LD in the rubber.....(if this is the one,...LCW is in trouble tomorrow)
..i'd like to add a fourth:
4) LD didn't want to reveal his cards to LCW prior to the upcoming WC..

That final rubber game scoreline between LD vs. CJ was simply.................Taufik Hidayat-2006 Japan Open MS Final-like..:eek::p

..i'd like to add a fourth:
4) LD didn't want to reveal his cards to LCW..

That final rubber game scoreline between LD vs. CJ was simply.................Taufik Hidayat-2006 Japan Open MS Final-like..:eek::p


LMAO... ROFL... LOL... Too good!!!!!!!!!!!!:p:D:D:D:D:D:D you mean as in intentionally hitting the shuttle into the net.

..this one, pitting 2 of the same countrymen, i would call a calculated move..
LinDan probably teased the crowd by giving them, and to an extent LCW and Taufik, hope & forcing a rubber game but at the end he decided not to play along with them...Hence, he avoided a possible loss against LCW or TH...:cool:

..this one, pitting 2 of the same countrymen, i would call a calculated move..
LinDan probably teased the crowd by giving them, and to an extent LCW and Taufik, hope & forcing a rubber game but at the end he decided not to play along with them...Hence, he avoided a possible loss against LCW or TH...:cool:

Wow,...christ,...what a bold statement there....., i tot LD is untouchable ?...he always 'whitewash' LCW......, and ave never lost to TH for years.......:rolleyes:

The posibility of LD to lose is close to zero.....;)

- Do you really think he could have lost by a margin of 17 pts??..:confused:
- When was the last time LinDan lost by that margin?? or close to that??..:confused:

LinDan knew, if he wins his match, he would be facing LCW, who's probably waiting for him in the Semifinals Rd. And if by chance LinDan wins over LCW, either Taufik or Sony, along with indra & the rest of the boisterous and rumpus INA crowd will be waiting for him in the Final Rd.
Unfortunately, if LinDan wants to keep his edge for the upcoming WC in India, he should've competed in last week's S'pore Open and probably could've win it.

This is obviously match-fixing. China would like to have LD and Chen Jin as 3rd and 4th seed for WC so that they won't meet too early at QF and SF. China always treat individual event like team event. I hate LYB and it is a shame for us being a Chinese. Without such match-fixings, China is still the strongest team on the earth. Do they need to do such things so often?

There is no smashes from LD during the whole match..basically all rallies and it seems that CHN wanted to have CJ to test LCW instead of LD...very dissapointed that we cn not have LD vs LCW in SF.....at one point..at the end of 2nd set, people thought CJ was injured...and would not continue to 3rd set..he did but LD hardly smashed and gave away the match......

LMAO... ROFL... LOL... Too good!!!!!!!!!!!!:p:D:D:D:D:D:D you mean as in intentionally hitting the shuttle into the net.
Basically in 3rd set, LD was not bothered to pick up the shuttle, send it to net or wide.....it is too obvious that LD gave away th match to CJ..

1 stone kills 2 birds.
First bird: To have LD and CJ as 3rd and 4th seed.
2nd bird: To test the improved CJ against LCW.
Smart move but also a shameful move.

This is obviously match-fixing. China would like to have LD and Chen Jin as 3rd and 4th seed for WC so that they won't meet too early at QF and SF. China always treat individual event like team event. I hate LYB and it is a shame for us being a Chinese. Without such match-fixings, China is still the strongest team on the earth. Do they need to do such things so often?
sina.com badminton reporter Chen Shujia also has the same view.
http://sports.sohu.com/20090620/n264642247.shtml

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yah, i'm wrong this time... it's LD to warm up CJ for playing LCW this time :D:D:D


...........personaly, I would like to see CJ be really strong, and TH / PG have their goodies back, so there could be 5 top forces instead of only LD/LCW rivalry. If this happens, we could have a better badminton world.

I also like CJ, actually more than LD or BCL. Would rather see him really fight it out to his full potential than those 'back injury retirements' :D.

Taufik & uncle PG not many years left to play, esp PG, already 33. So, I suppose the 'uncle' is giving us his best baddy before he calls it quits.
After those 2 retire, more boring.
Anyway, you dont count Sony K in the list? I suppose that's for another thread.;)

1 stone kills 2 birds.
First bird: To have LD and CJ as 3rd and 4th seed.
2nd bird: To test the improved CJ against LCW.
Smart move but also a shameful move.
Hmmm the same Chen Jin that struggled to win in the second round, I do have my doubts....

Tuafik basically is untouchable and you have to "give face" to other events(WD,WS,XD), is a tough decision for the organizer. Should have done like Swiss Open separated into 2 sessions and broadcast every semi final match, sell more tickets that way :D

Actually, they could have split the court ratio to 6 and 4. The TV court gets 6 matches (maybe both MS). Something like how Malaysia and Singapore does it.

Running it ala Swiss Open will be too long, potentially 10 hours of matches.

I hope Wang Lin become a winner in indonesia open

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Seriously though: I just came back from playing Badminton myself, so I didn't know what actually happened. Was LD injured, or CJ was playing exceptionally well?

Shall now go and read our Quarter-Finals thread.
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no..lin dan was too generous yesterday and both the players was too kind enough;)..so now the crowd will be supporting chen jin later.:rolleyes:;)
indra is always right..
if LD wins titles, LD got chinese helpers from CJ, BCL and CY

if LD loses title, LD can't win in MO and IO.
this time he's wrong i think:D ld loses the title this year, because he got chinese helpers and also the chinese helper eventually whitewashed lin dan himself in the 3rd game.:p lin dan must be thinking, oh this chen jin, he's too much.. never give face at all to me.:D:D
Wow,...christ,...what a bold statement there....., i tot LD is untouchable ?...he always 'whitewash' LCW......, and ave never lost to TH for years.......:rolleyes:

The posibility of LD to lose is close to zero.....;)
now the true whitewash theory finally comes out.. where chen jin eventually whitewashed lin dan in the 3rd set yesterday with the score 21-4..thats what we called, WHITEWASH!;)

George, it was LD 'whitewash' himself.....sent shuttles into net, out of court.....bad acts.............

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You got ur wish Era. Yeah, LCW 'miss" CJ, sooo long didnt meet already ;):D

May I know the score?

May I know the score?
Here you have it all:
http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=F5786AF0-6120-4871-B55C-0FF9BE3315CB&d=20090620

George, it was LD 'whitewash' himself.....sent shuttles into net, out of court.....bad acts.............
wow, whitewash himself? that's incredible:eek::(!

There is no smashes from LD during the whole match..basically all rallies and it seems that CHN wanted to have CJ to test LCW instead of LD...very dissapointed that we cn not have LD vs LCW in SF.....at one point..at the end of 2nd set, people thought CJ was injured...and would not continue to 3rd set..he did but LD hardly smashed and gave away the match......

now we know what have happen:)

I am not surprised at all by LD's defeat . I have predicted this before he was even born. That's why personally I have never admitted LD's super power.

My theory on LD's lost superiority when playing in Indonesia has been proven.

Anyway, the true Kings are TH and LCW.:D

I am not surprised at all by LD's defeat . I have predicted this before he was even born. That's why personally I have never admitted LD's super power.

My theory on LD's lost superiority when playing in Indonesia has been proven.

Anyway, the true Kings are TH and LCW.:D

Indra, are you a comedian:D:pYour jokes are really quite original, I have a good chuckle...keep it up, man! Laughter is a great way to relax.:p:D

I am not surprised at all by LD's defeat . I have predicted this before he was even born. That's why personally I have never admitted LD's super power.

My theory on LD's lost superiority when playing in Indonesia has been proven.

Anyway, the true Kings are TH and LCW.:D

I have to say sorry to u Indra because i doubted your theory about LD.....Now i m conveinced that LD cant play in Indonesia Open......:D:D:D

Looks like BCL and CJ also have the same problem ..............;)

I am not surprised at all by LD's defeat . I have predicted this before he was even born. That's why personally I have never admitted LD's super power.

My theory on LD's lost superiority when playing in Indonesia has been proven.

Anyway, the true Kings are TH and LCW.:D

I have to say sorry to u Indra because i was once doubted your theory about LD.....Now i m conveinced that LD cant play in Indonesia Open......:D:D:D

Looks like BCL and CJ also have the same problem ..............;)

I am not surprised at all by LD's defeat . I have predicted this before he was even born. That's why personally I have never admitted LD's super power.

My theory on LD's lost superiority when playing in Indonesia has been proven.

Anyway, the true Kings are TH and LCW.:D
Good that it goes your way, Indra.
I still think Lin Dan did not play as Lin Dan. Disappointed if it was intentional.
For the 21-4, I agree that Lin Dan had whitewashed himself. If he did it intentionally, then it's a shame for a champion. It'll discredit Chen Jin for the won.

I am not surprised at all by LD's defeat. I have predicted this before he was even born. That's why personally I have never admitted LD's super power.

My theory on LD's lost superiority when playing in Indonesia has been proven.

Anyway, the true Kings are TH and LCW. :D



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:D:D:D This is funny.

Just couldn't believe that indra could predict this outcome even before Lin Dan was born.
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That's fair: aging Taufik vs. aging Peter... ;)



I agree with this... :cool:



NO your statement is unfair to Peter, Lin Dan, Lee Chong Wei, and others.

If the information on Wikipedia is correct, then....

(1981-08-10)TH is 27 yrs old (August 10, 1981)
(1976-12-14)PG is 32 yrs old (December 14, 1976)
(1982-10-21)LCW is 26 yrs old (October 21, 1982
(1983-10-14)LD is 25 yrs old (October 14, 1983)

So as you can see Taufik is only 1 year older than Lee Chong Wei and 2 years older than Lin Dan while the age gaps between Peter Gade and LCW/LD are 6 and 7 years, respectively.

While Taufik is one of my favorite players along with Peter Gade and Chen Hong, I don't understand why people consider Taufik is aging. He should still be able to maintain high pace gameplay and still remain competitive - yet he cannot at the moment.

So as you can see Taufik is only 1 year older than Lee Chong Wei and 2 years older than Lin Dan while the age gaps between Peter Gade and LCW/LD are 6 and 7 years, respectively.

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Errr, if you've read other threads or earlier pages of this thread, you will find that Taufik's supposed to be 2 years older than his official age of 27. That's why they say "aging". ;)
Other Indonesian players also are said to be 2 years older than their offical age.

Errr, if you've read other threads or earlier pages of this thread, you will find that Taufik's supposed to be 2 years older than his official age of 27. That's why they say "aging". ;)
Other Indonesian players also are said to be 2 years older than their offical age.

You like to enlighten us as to why

NO your statement is unfair to Peter, Lin Dan, Lee Chong Wei, and others.

If the information on Wikipedia is correct, then....
(1981-08-10)TH is 27 yrs old (August 10, 1981)
(1976-12-14)PG is 32 yrs old (December 14, 1976)
(1982-10-21)LCW is 26 yrs old (October 21, 1982
(1983-10-14)LD is 25 yrs old (October 14, 1983)

So as you can see Taufik is only 1 year older than Lee Chong Wei and 2 years older than Lin Dan while the age gaps between Peter Gade and LCW/LD are 6 and 7 years, respectively.



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TH, LCW and LD are almost belonging in the same age group. It's only PG who is the much older brother.

It is believed that PG started playing Badminton much later than his younger 3 brothers.

Therefore, could we see them all retiring at about the same time, let's say at the 2012 Olympics?
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Errr, if you've read other threads or earlier pages of this thread, you will find that Taufik's supposed to be 2 years older than his official age of 27. That's why they say "aging". ;)
Other Indonesian players also are said to be 2 years older than their offical age.

You like to enlighten us as to why

so he can date younger chicks in his partying days?:D