Malaysia’s world No 1 shuttler says he’s not in top shape to defend his crown

[aramistuscany]

Taken from Today's paper, Sports Section, June 9, 2009, Page 30

By Tan Yo-Hinn

HE IS the current world No 1, with two wins so far on the prestigious Badminton World Federation (BWF) Super Series tour.

But Malaysian star Lee Chong Wei did not appear to exude the confidence of
the world’s top-ranked player yesterday, ahead of the US$200,000 ($291,860) Aviva Open Singapore 2009.

The defending champion will take on unseeded Englishman Andrew Smith in the first round tomorrow at the Singapore Indoor Stadium, but he says he is not in peak form.

“I didn’t prepare very well for this tournament,” said Lee, at the pre-tournament press conference at Swissotel the Stamford yesterday.
Aviva Open Singapore 2009

“I was training the last two weeks after the Sudirman Cup and decided to come to this tournament to target some world ranking points, and to prepare for the World Championship.

“It’s too short for me to prepare for the Singapore Open. It’s very difficult for me to do very well.”

Lee, usually one of the more affable players on the circuit, left the press conference hurriedly minutes later. A call to his hotel room later was also fruitless.

“Could you call back later, a lot later. He’s gone out,” said the person who answered the call, claiming to be a team-mate rooming with him.

The Penang-born Lee, conferred the title of “Datuk” by Malaysia after winning a silver at last August’s Beijing Olympics, is the top draw for the Singapore tournament, where 246 shuttlers from 28 countries will compete across five events — the men’s and women’s singles and doubles, and the mixed doubles.
It is the fifth-leg of the 12-stop BWF Super Series 2009 with ranking points on offer.

Lee, who beat Indonesia’s Simon Santoso 21-13, 21-5 in last year’s final, has already won the Swiss and Malaysian Opens this year, and was second at the Korean Open and All-England Championships. At last month’s Sudirman Cup in Guangzhou, the 26-year-old was powerless as Malaysia were swept 3-0 by eventual champions China in the semi-finals.

Despite the absence of world No 3 Lin Dan from China and Indonesian hero Taufik Hidayat — the world No 5 — Lee played down his chances this week.

“The draw is very tough. The quarter-final could be against China’s (world No 16) Bao Chunlai and the semi-final against his countryman (world No 6) Chen Jing,” said Lee, who replaced Lin as the world No 1 last November.

“But as defending champion I will give it my best.”

Singapore’s best hopes rest on world No 26 Xing Aiying in the women’s singles and world No 14 women’s doubles pair Shinta Mulia Sari and Yao Lei, quarter-finalists at the Yonex-Sunrise India Open in March.

“We’ve set a quarter-final target Aiying and the women’s pair,” said team manager and Singapore Badminton Association’s high performance
manager, Jim Hui.

“With many of the top names here, it will be good if they can reach the last eight.”

[drifit]

“But as defending champion I will give it my best.”
make sure that he do it....... dont say try best and end up some other 'things'.

[jutawin]

Even LCW is not in his top shape, he still has the best chance and also Lin Dan is absent..

[laivc]

Just stay away from food poisoning and he will do just fine.

[jasonmarc]

Yes, he has been non stop playing since after Sudirman Cup....Pahang Open,....no time for quality training............

[ants]

LCW is just playing it safe. :) But i do agree that he was not in his best condition. Can see it during his training. Bit slow.. feeling fatigued.

[george@chongwei]

Let's just hope he can try his very best in this tournament though:cool:

[picachu01]

To day, at 8.00pm, LCW will meet Tien Minh - VIE. Thats first difficulty. If he win, in the next machs, he will vs Mr Bao at QF, ... thats big difficulty. Good luck, LCW!

[danielwong]

To day, at 8.00pm, LCW will meet Tien Minh - VIE. Thats first difficulty. If he win, in the next machs, he will vs Mr Bao at QF, ... thats big difficulty. Good luck, LCW!


maybe WCH do LCW a favour by TERMINATING BCL...

[alana07]

pls dont blame LCW if he kena tapau-ed early in this tournament, since he's already said he's not in top shape.

[george@chongwei]

pls dont blame LCW if he kena tapau-ed early in this tournament, since he's already said he's not in top shape.
dont worry, we are 'ready' for it;)

[Jonc108]

pls dont blame LCW if he kena tapau-ed early in this tournament, since he's already said he's not in top shape.

guess LCW was around on this forum for a while and seen too many blames on disappointments on him, so said something before..:rolleyes:

[drifit]

guess LCW was around on this forum for a while and seen too many blames on disappointments on him, so said something before..:rolleyes:
you mean this LCW (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/member.php?u=25828)? :eek:
or this LCW (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/member.php?u=40976)? :rolleyes:
now, dont talk bad about Lee Chong Wei anymore. ;)

[Jonc108]

Yes, he has been non stop playing since after Sudirman Cup....Pahang Open,....no time for quality training............

no gun is pointing at LCW forcing him to enter so many competitions, just his own choice on whether he would like to stage quality performance by arranging his schedule for training and playing, as world #1, he should have the intelligence to do so...

...unless he is too obsessed in maintaining the #1 paper ranking by entering whatever competition he could in order to earn whatever points... that would be sad...

[laivc]

no gun is pointing at LCW forcing him to enter so many competitions, just his own choice on whether he would like to stage quality performance by arranging his schedule for training and playing, as world #1, he should have the intelligence to do so...

...unless he is too obsessed in maintaining the #1 paper ranking by entering whatever competition he could in order to earn whatever points... that would be sad...

Theory wise, by maintaining the #1 paper ranked player do have its advantages. Firstly, all the draws for any competitions will be to his advantage by being the #1 seed; and secondly, the monetory bonuses the sponsors can give him by being the #1 paper ranked player is much better off than the #2 or #3 player. Look at LCW being the #1 paper rank player in the world, he is the #1 spokeman for Yonex now and you can imagine all the fringes benefits he is getting from Yonex alone... maybe in the future, even specialize Yonex racket tailored to his own preferances.

[Dr. Evil]

Theory wise, by maintaining the #1 paper ranked player do have its advantages. Firstly, all the draws for any competitions will be to his advantage by being the #1 seed; and secondly, the monetory bonuses the sponsors can give him by being the #1 paper ranked player is much better off than the #2 or #3 player. Look at LCW being the #1 paper rank player in the world, he is the #1 spokeman for Yonex now and you can imagine all the fringes benefits he is getting from Yonex alone... maybe in the future, even specialize Yonex racket tailored to his own preferances.

Are you sure about that? I never saw LCW promoting anything for Yonex and most of Yonex poster are still images of Lin dan and Taufik

[jasonmarc]

Are you sure about that? I never saw LCW promoting anything for Yonex and most of Yonex poster are still images of Lin dan and Taufik

Soon will be all LCW and TH on YY posters......because LD is under LN now and LYD is with Victor now........:cool::cool:

Actually,.....LCW have to take part in most of the tournaments is because he needed the matches against world class players as part of his quality training as no good training partner in Mas's camp so its a win-win situation for him....

1. He can accumulate a lot of WR points, provided with his consistency...
2. He can have good quality sparring with world class opponents
3. The sponsor likes his high appearance rate in international tourny
4. Better earnings from prizes money, consistency is a must here...

[jasonmarc]

Soon will be all LCW and TH on YY posters......because LD is under LN now and LYD is with Victor now........:cool::cool:

Actually,.....LCW have to take part in most of the tournaments is because he needed the matches against world class players as part of his quality training as no good training partner in Mas's camp so its a win-win situation for him....

1. He can accumulate a lot of WR points, provided with his consistency...
2. He can have good quality sparring with world class opponents
3. The sponsor likes his high appearance rate in international tourny
4. Better earnings from prizes money, consistency is a must here...

apart from those ......he will also suffered fatigue from non stop competing...., over travalling,.....and less systematic based training at home.......:rolleyes:

[eaglehelang]

...unless he is too obsessed in maintaining the #1 paper ranking by entering whatever competition he could in order to earn whatever points... that would be sad...

Other than the reasons already given :
1) Being WR#1 on paper have advantages for BAM players, for LCW is RM45,000 richer every 3 months . Recently also LCW received a new Proton Perdana from sponsor Proton for his consistency in maintaining top ranking.
Imagine what else the other sponsors will /promised to give if he maintains WR#1 for 1 year. ;)
2) LCW had to participate in Pahang Open, it's sponsored by Proton, Proton is BAM players main sponsor.;);)
3) Msia singles dept needs to show results to the big bosses, the back up MS arent any good (young or older), so ...... This was mentioned by Misbun in an interview in the malay press last year.;););)
4) The quality sparring thingy..........Rexy said same thing as the reason for sending KKK/TBH to 4 consecutive tourneys (1 more than LCW :p)

[Jonc108]

Other than the reasons already given :
1) Being WR#1 on paper have advantages for BAM players, for LCW is RM45,000 richer every 3 months . Recently also LCW received a new Proton Perdana from sponsor Proton for his consistency in maintaining top ranking.
Imagine what else the other sponsors will /promised to give if he maintains WR#1 for 1 year. ;)
2) LCW had to participate in Pahang Open, it's sponsored by Proton, Proton is BAM players main sponsor.;);)
3) Msia singles dept needs to show results to the big bosses, the back up MS arent any good (young or older), so ...... This was mentioned by Misbun in an interview in the malay press last year.;););)
4) The quality sparring thingy..........Rexy said same thing as the reason for sending KKK/TBH to 4 consecutive tourneys (1 more than LCW :p)

that's what I called sad things... he has to choose non-stop playing for competitions due to non-badminton reasons...

but if he did choose to do so, don't complain of lack of system training then... this is what he have chosen to do...

[eaglehelang]

that's what I called sad things... he has to choose non-stop playing for competitions due to non-badminton reasons...

but if he did choose to do so, don't complain of lack of system training then... this is what he have chosen to do...

Sometimes, it's not for LCW to choose, his coach, BAM, decides the tourneys he goes to. Haha, it's not blaming lack of training, he's just playing safe, smart way of answering the media, esp unforgiving Msia media.;)
If not, lose that time, kena teruk2, must answer to Sports Minister lah,NSC DIrector lah etc,etc.:D:p

He has contractual obligations. One is to Yonex, the other Proton. I think all Yonex sponsored events they must appear.

Example : one time LCW wanted to skip one of the local circuits to prepare for Japan SS or sthing like that but had to go as it's Proton sponsored (unless have good reason like sick, injured, family emergency).

Anyway, for International tourneys, PG also go for many tourneys & he's 33. The rest of the Msia gang also going for 3 or 4 tourneys in a row this round, nothing unusual.

[Silencer]

oo, LCW really not in good shape to def his crown, he lost in the 2nd round to Vietnam player, hard fought match!

[danielwong]

if no good shape, better dont come...
now ranking point kena deducted...

[pjswift]

if no good shape, better dont come...
now ranking point kena deducted...
I'm glad LCW came. He's very popular here. Even with inadequate preparations, he's great to watch and not easy to defeat. NTM had to play flawless superspeed, superdefense and superattack to take out LCW. I'm sorry you didn't have the fortune to appreciate the match. Team CHN probably has the video.

[geordie]

oo, LCW really not in good shape to def his crown, he lost in the 2nd round to Vietnam player, hard fought match!

Saw the match yesterday. CW tried hard but seems to miss match practise and his movement around the court is also scratchy. But his big match temperament is still there, fighting back and looked very comfortable on big points. Nguyen was so fast around the court and looked so eager. He could beat any player on a good day. Just a note he was there alone with no coach. Nguyen is also too inexperienced, being fooled on at least 2 occassion by CW with a flick service to the back. I call them cheap points.

IMOHO, CW have not much to prove in his badminton career. He is now the world's best. But he must erase the stigma of consistently loosing to Lin Dan. I feel that the Malaysia Badminton ferderation owns it to CW to hire the best coach. To beat the Chinese, you need to have an inside view of their workings. I saw the match between Wang Yihan and Xing Aiying. The chinese coach I felt made a difference. She was able to come on and calmly point out to Yihan after loosing the 2nd match to increase the pace and keep the shuttle in to lengthen the rally (or somthing to that effect). And sure enough, in the final match, the Singaporean kaput and lost steam after some long rallies. Eventually Yihan won the rubber 21-7. The Malaysian coach (chinese man with uncle hair-do) came out moving his hands widly in the air looking to tell CW to either correct his strokes or to use more clear or something. I feel what CW need at that point in time is some acute observation of how the Vietnamese was doing right and how to counter him. And in the 2nd set, CW was back towards me and at 16-17 was looking towards the coach as he walks back to pick up a shuttle that has gone in. He looked at the coach perhaps hoping for some advice and that coach was just sitting there with his arm folded and didn't give any reply. After CW lost the match, the coach was still sitting there with his arms folded. And when CW walked towards him to shake his hand, he cocked his head to the right and smile in a typical (better luck next time) kind of look.

I feel that CW is the only non-chinese that can take on any of the chinese players any day and perhaps win. CW is naturally talented and works so hard. What he needs now is a REAL coach. Not some has-been national player. Again I feel the Malaysia Badminton federation wons him enough to hire one good coach that will train and prepare him to finish his career beating everyone under his ranking. Maybe Li Mao is a good choice now as Li will be very motivated to beat the Chinese. Sadly for Li none in the Korean team is at CW's level.

[Dato A]

I feel that CW is the only non-chinese that can take on any of the chinese players any day and perhaps win. CW is naturally talented and works so hard. What he needs now is a REAL coach. Not some has-been national player. Again I feel the Malaysia Badminton federation wons him enough to hire one good coach that will train and prepare him to finish his career beating everyone under his ranking. Maybe Li Mao is a good choice now as Li will be very motivated to beat the Chinese. Sadly for Li none in the Korean team is at CW's level.

MISBUN is a real coach.

[george@chongwei]

if no good shape, better dont come...
now ranking point kena deducted...
If he never come, the points will be deducted even more:D

[george@chongwei]

I'm glad LCW came. He's very popular here. Even with inadequate preparations, he's great to watch and not easy to defeat. NTM had to play flawless superspeed, superdefense and superattack to take out LCW. I'm sorry you didn't have the fortune to appreciate the match. Team CHN probably has the video.
They already having it.;)

[george@chongwei]

I think teh siu bok was there yesterday during chong wei's match.

[Ajaib]

hahahaha......
WR #1 lost to unseeded players...
i hope that Lin Dan will be back to no.1 soon.....
it's a shame to have a WR no1 like this...

[george@chongwei]

hahahaha......
WR #1 lost to unseeded players...
i hope that Lin Dan will be back to no.1 soon.....
it's a shame to have a WR no1 like this...
It is not a wise thing to laugh off other player's country when they lose.

[fastdrop]

hahahaha......
WR #1 lost to unseeded players...
i hope that Lin Dan will be back to no.1 soon.....
it's a shame to have a WR no1 like this...

There is nothing to be ashamed in what happened. NTM is a good and very patient player. It just goes to show that LCW is human not a machine. The best athletes in any sport suffered defeat one time or the other. Otherwise, there will be no more excitement if only 1 player dominates the sport.

If you want LD to be number 1 then better ask him to play. He can't be number 1 if he stays home practising.:rolleyes:

[Ajaib]

ok... sorry if it's HURT your heart.....

[Jonc108]

... What he needs now is a REAL coach. Not some has-been national player...

hey, were you really watching LCW's match with NTM??? :eek:

Did you find any coach guiding NTM who just beat LCW??? :confused:

None....

:crying::crying::crying:

[Jonc108]

.... CW have not much to prove in his badminton career. He is now the world's best....

you could have your own preference on who's your most favourite best... but watch out if you are to claim someone "the world's best".

I guess the majority of the whole world (even many die-hard LCW fans here) knows who's the real world's best at the moment but unfortunately not CW.

CW's just WR#1 and amongst the world's best, but WR#1 does not automatically mean he's the very best...

welcome to the forum...

[ctjcad]

...He looked at the coach perhaps hoping for some advice and that coach was just sitting there with his arm folded and didn't give any reply. After CW lost the match, the coach was still sitting there with his arms folded. And when CW walked towards him to shake his hand, he cocked his head to the right and smile in a typical (better luck next time) kind of look.
...
.."The Cold Look"..:p
..maybe the coach couldn't believe what he had just witnessed..He probably thought in his head: "LCW, now look what you've done. Misbun sent me here to assist you and now i've gotta go back and explain to Misbun what had happened".http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/45.gif
Btw, thanks for sharing your experience, geordie!:cool:

[eaglehelang]

............The Malaysian coach (chinese man with uncle hair-do) came out moving his hands widly in the air looking to tell CW to either correct his strokes or to use more clear or something. I feel what CW need at that point in time is some acute observation of how the Vietnamese was doing right and how to counter him. And in the 2nd set, CW was back towards me and at 16-17 was looking towards the coach as he walks back to pick up a shuttle that has gone in. He looked at the coach perhaps hoping for some advice and that coach was just sitting there with his arm folded and didn't give any reply. After CW lost the match, the coach was still sitting there with his arms folded. And when CW walked towards him to shake his hand, he cocked his head to the right and smile in a typical (better luck next time) kind of look.



Would the coach be on the slightly plump side? Then it would be Teh SB, the WS coach. Rashid is in Msia (but will be in INA), Misbun taken long leave to care for his wife undergoing kidney transplant(will be back in July, no exact date). So, LCW must be missing Misbun at that point.:D

[Jonc108]

hahahaha......
WR #1 lost to unseeded players...
i hope that Lin Dan will be back to no.1 soon.....
it's a shame to have a WR no1 like this...

being WR#1 and losing to any unseeded player is not a shame... it always happen in sports world...

what is really disappointing is his pre-match statement of saying he's not in a good form and still enter the competition, this is mostly lack of respect for other players, particularly his opponents. It would discredit whatever his opponents do to him, win or loss...

the real shame is that, there are many fans here trying to cover their idols flaw by twisting the logics, ignoring the basic human respect, maybe it's like an old saying,
like parents, like children;
like players, like fans...

[jasonmarc]

I'm glad LCW came. He's very popular here. Even with inadequate preparations, he's great to watch and not easy to defeat. NTM had to play flawless superspeed, superdefense and superattack to take out LCW. I'm sorry you didn't have the fortune to appreciate the match. Team CHN probably has the video.

Thats right......both LCW and his girl gave brilliant fighting spirit before lost their matches.............this is what i called 'Spirit of Professionalism'. They dont simply pulling out of tournaments besides sickness and injury.....:cool:

[extremenanopowe]

My interpretation for this is 'bad planning'. You know there are 2 big tournaments coming up and you can allow your top players to say. No form. ;) Mana boleh? So anyone can be a coach or manager right? Easy money. ;)

Badminton: Eei Hui-Pei Tty’s exit leaves Malaysia with no one in semi-finals



Shame in Singapore
KUALA LUMPUR: Malaysia found themselves in an embarrassing situation when they did not have even one representative in the semi-finals of the S$200,000 Singapore Open after top women’s doubles pair of Chin Eei Hui-Wong Pei Tty crashed out in the quarter-finals last night.
Although the top-seeded Malaysian pair got off to a great start against Indonesians Nitya Krishinda Maheswari-Greysia Polii, winning 21-17, they failed to press home the advantage at the Singapore Indoor Stadium.
The unseeded Indonesia pair then fought their way back into the reckoning before prevailing 21-16, 21-19 in 59 minutes to secure their first semi-final appearance in a Super Series event.
Eei Hui-Pei Tty blew a golden chance to secure their first semi-final appearance for the year as they had beaten the Indonesian pair en route to their first career win in the Denmark Open last year.
The last eight exit could make it tougher for Eei Hui-Pei Tty to keep their current position at the top of the world rankings unless they reach the semi-finals of the Indonesian Open next week.
Eei Hui-Pei Tty are hoping to head to the World Championships in Hyderabad in August as the first Malaysian top seeds in the women’s doubles competition.
In the men’s doubles competition, former national players Gan Teik Chai-Tan Bin Shen bowed out after a tame 15-21, 17-21 defeat by fourth seeds Lars Paaske-Jonas Rasmussen of Denmark.
Malaysia’s hopes of retaining the men’s doubles title, which was won by Mohd Fairuzizuan Mohd Tazari-Mohd Zakry Abdul Latif last year, disappeared after top pair Koo Kien Keat-Tan Boon Heong were sent packing by England’s Nathan Robertson-Anthony Clark in the second round on Thursday.
Malaysia’s hopes of keeping the men’s singles title were also dashed when Lee Chong Wei, the world No. 1, crashed out to Vietnam’s Nguyen Tien Minh on Thursday.

[eaglehelang]

............They dont simply pulling out of tournaments besides sickness and injury.....:cool:

Cannot mah, waste taxpayers $$$$ go there. Injury or illness (if not too serious) also most of the time, LCW dont simply withdraw, wait kena bash from Sports Minister, like what happened after Denmark Open 2007.

Just that some people cannot get over the Spore Straits Times article, sound like 10 mainstream newspapers publish it, haha.

[eaglehelang]

the real shame is that, there are many fans here trying to cover their idols flaw by twisting the logics, ignoring the basic human respect, maybe it's like an old saying,
like parents, like children;
like players, like fans...

1) Other player's fans also do so(so same2 lor), if you read the threads, sometimes even more "interesting" the logic. So why upset with LCW only? See the Korea Open 2008 threads if you dont believe. Also one of the "popular" Prof Players thread today, nice banter there.:p

2) Other players have also said before tourney started "This time, I've just recovered from XXX injury/illness, not in good condition as I just go back in training for one/two weeks. But I will do my very best"
Or when asked by reporters asked "Yes, my YYY injury is still bothering me but I will do my best for my country."
Or "In the match vs ABC, when I fell my leg/heel hurt a bit,that's why limping now."
When they lost the next match nobody complain that they early2 say they got injury. Got other examples also but not injury/illness related ;)

[jasonmarc]

1) Other player's fans also do so(so same2 lor), if you read the threads, sometimes even more "interesting" the logic. So why upset with LCW only? See the Korea Open 2008 threads if you dont believe. Also one of the "popular" Prof Players thread today, nice banter there.:p

2) Other players have also said before tourney started "This time, I've just recovered from XXX injury/illness, not in good condition as I just go back in training for one/two weeks. But I will do my very best"
Or when asked by reporters asked "Yes, my YYY injury is still bothering me but I will do my best for my country."
Or "In the match vs ABC, when I fell my leg/heel hurt a bit,that's why limping now."
When they lost the next match nobody complain that they early2 say they got injury. Got other examples also but not injury/illness related ;)

Some people are quite selective.............they can accept certain players to do certain things but wont accept the players that they hate to do the same things........thats called double standard.....:D:D:D

Like BCL told the world he is have knee pain and still considering if to have surgery......CJ have waist injury ..........MK having knee injury.........and nobody ask 'Why still paraticipate...?'................:confused::confus ed::confused:

[eaglehelang]

Some people are quite selective.......:D:D:D

Like BCL told the world he is have knee pain and still considering if to have surgery......CJ have waist injury ..........MK having knee injury.........and nobody ask 'Why still paraticipate...?'................:confused::confus ed::confused:

:D:D:D back to you. I was actually refering to Taufik during SS Finals, he straight out say he went to oblige sponsor Yonex & "still nursing back injury", before competition start. Remember TH withdraw already then suddenly he appear.
Hiyaa, Fuzzy pair (Zakry) also say bf "We are not in the best condition." The next day they lost, nobody even notice that statement.
MK you mean Maria Kristin? WMC also is often asked abt her knee injuries bf tourney start, she very straight forward one, her knee hurt also she say (SS FInals). ;)

[laivc]

Are you sure about that? I never saw LCW promoting anything for Yonex and most of Yonex poster are still images of Lin dan and Taufik

I think it is high time for u to check out the Yonex website and the forum to update yourself on the badminton world, a lot of things have changed since the April 09.:)

[george@chongwei]

I think it is high time for u to check out the Yonex website and the forum to update yourself on the badminton world, a lot of things have changed since the April 09.:)
agree with you on this;)
i can see lcw is now the poster boy for yonex;)

[jasonmarc]

agree with you on this;)
i can see lcw is now the poster boy for yonex;)

Yes,..It used to be LD and TH........now will be LCW and TH...

Wonder some people may complaint about LCW being the poster boy.;););)

[Han]

Though I am a big fan of Lee Chong Wei, I do think he has flaws that need to be amend :
1) Care too much about being world #1
May be that has something to do with BAM allowance based on world ranking but I think Chong Wei should care more on his preparation on individual tournament. Do not go if he's not well prepare. Being #1 also comes with burden so it's better he doesn't think too much about it.
2) Be a great player, be more selective
Most of us agreed he has the skill to be the great player but lacking those essential titles like AE, WC or Olympic will keep him out so he should really concentrate on those essential tournaments! Really, who cares or remembers if he win few more Super Series, we only remember he has yet to win any of the essential great tournaments.
3)Continue to work and accept defeat
There's no issue on his work ethics but be a more mature player and accept defeat without excuse. Great player doesn't always win but the one who plays great usually does!
4)Get another "see foo"(coach)
I think Hendrawan will be a good "see foo" for Chong Wei, not that much in terms of techniques rather philosophy of being a great player. Is like Phil Jackson of Laker able to bring the best out of players!

[OneToughBirdie]

Though I am a big fan of Lee Chong Wei, I do think he has flaws that need to be amend :
1) Care too much about being world #1
May be that has something to do with BAM allowance based on world ranking but I think Chong Wei should care more on his preparation on individual tournament. Do not go if he's not well prepare. Being #1 also comes with burden so it's better he doesn't think too much about it.
2) Be a great player, be more selective
Most of us agreed he has the skill to be the great player but lacking those essential titles like AE, WC or Olympic will keep him out so he should really concentrate on those essential tournaments! Really, who cares or remembers if he win few more Super Series, we only remember he has yet to win any of the essential great tournaments.
3)Continue to work and accept defeat
There's no issue on his work ethics but be a more mature player and accept defeat without excuse. Great player doesn't always win but the one who plays great usually does!
4)Get another "see foo"(coach)

I think Hendrawan will be a good "see foo" for Chong Wei, not that much in terms of techniques rather philosophy of being a great player. Is like Phil Jackson of Laker able to bring the best out of players!

Guru Han: I agree with everything you say:)...I have a question for you...if you are a high school dropout with no post education but a great skill playing badminton for a passionate, generous, deep pocket, baddy nation like MAS and knowing after the sun set on your career (could be 2-3 years time) you are pretty much on your own...would you milk all you can now when you are still competitive and pad up your bank account book and retire happily and financially set, rather than chasing some majors which would be great to win but you know, LD and CHN will be out to nail you and not letting you easy in AE, WC and of course OLY...who cares the fan bickering about what trophies, leave those arguments for the ages...the same logic applies to almost all pro baddy players, it is a business first, everything else second...for me I take the millions and the Datuks than some titles;)

[drifit]

Guru Han: I agree with everything you say:)...I have a question for you...if you are a high school dropout with no post education but a great skill playing badminton for a passionate, generous, deep pocket, baddy nation like MAS and knowing after the sun set on your career (could be 2-3 years time) you are pretty much on your own...would you milk all you can now when you are still competitive and pad up your bank account book and retire happily and financially set, rather than chasing some majors which would be great to win but you know, LD and CHN will be out to nail you and not letting you easy in AE, WC and of course OLY...who cares the fan bickering about what trophies, leave those arguments for the ages...the same logic applies to almost all pro baddy players, it is a business first, everything else second...for me I take the millions and the Datuks than some titles;)
that is one of the great tactic.
furthermore, LCW already got his pension scheme. ;)

[OneToughBirdie]

that is one of the great tactic.
furthermore, LCW already got his pension scheme. ;)

Pension scheme is great but it sure doesn't hurt to add more $$$ though when he can still do it;) I am not criticizing LCW and other pro players...they have every right and should take care of their future...they entertain us, play for their country and god knows, how difficult the training is and what sacrifice they endure to attain world level...for every LCW in MAS, there are many Sairul, Yeoh Kay Bin, KBH, etc who probably has to do something else when they quit the game and having invested a good chunk of their youth chasing a dream (which LCW has achieved financially and he earns it) and now going nowhere and age is catching up...I don't have the skill like these guys, and even if I do, I would go for something more reassuring like a professional career that may be more promising than a pro baddy career that is more likely to be flickering. A great baddy nation like MAS, how many OLY medalists have achieved pension scheme...probably 4 out of how many players that have worn the MAS jersey?;)

[Han]

Guru Han: I agree with everything you say:)...I have a question for you...if you are a high school dropout with no post education but a great skill playing badminton for a passionate, generous, deep pocket, baddy nation like MAS and knowing after the sun set on your career (could be 2-3 years time) you are pretty much on your own...would you milk all you can now when you are still competitive and pad up your bank account book and retire happily and financially set, rather than chasing some majors which would be great to win but you know, LD and CHN will be out to nail you and not letting you easy in AE, WC and of course OLY...who cares the fan bickering about what trophies, leave those arguments for the ages...the same logic applies to almost all pro baddy players, it is a business first, everything else second...for me I take the millions and the Datuks than some titles;)

Chong Wei already have the Datuk title and also a million air so isn't it make more sense to build his legacy now? Imagine how much he could make if he wins the WC or AE. I am not asking him to totally skip all the Super Series, I understand the financial side of it but be more selective and concentrate on those great title, for example, skip the Swiss Open and concentrate on All England or skip the Malaysia Gold and concentrate on World Championship.
I think he can do it still makes lots of money, you know our BAM is more than generous.
Finally, I thought Chong Wei always think of the fan first ??? :D

[eaglehelang]

...........A great baddy nation like MAS, how many OLY medalists have achieved pension scheme...probably 4 out of how many players that have worn the MAS jersey?;)

LOL, OneTough.. you better come back Msia become manager or agent for LCW.:p
OG Medalist for Msia so far : Razif, Jailani, Rashid Sidek, Yap KH, Cheah SK and now LCW. Not including the Datuk =5. Those who get same amount pension $$$ as LCW only 2 - good ol Yap & Cheah, who currently still coaching.

As for Han's concern & being selective, there's the political side of things also, sorta. Wait till Misbun come back, see what can be done. And Hendrawan's supposed to be the back up players sifu, maybe + Hafiz. We'll see when Hendrawan turns up in July.;)

[OneToughBirdie]

Chong Wei already have the Datuk title and also a million air so isn't it make more sense to build his legacy now? Imagine how much he could make if he wins the WC or AE. I am not asking him to totally skip all the Super Series, I understand the financial side of it but be more selective and concentrate on those great title, for example, skip the Swiss Open and concentrate on All England or skip the Malaysia Gold and concentrate on World Championship.
I think he can do it still makes lots of money, you know our BAM is more than generous.
Finally, I thought Chong Wei always think of the fan first ??? :D

Agree with you and I have also posted before he should be more selective, not just to concentrate on the majors but not to wear himself out and risk over-exposure. And agree with you he sure would make more if he crowns the WC, AE and OLY and would be the first MAS player to win WC and OLY, that would be a legacy. Maybe I am looking from another point that by playing more, he enhance his changes of winning SS especially when LD is not playing, thereby rank WR1 and claim BAM bonus/make as much as possible and call it a day in 2/3 years, i.e. like a squirrel gathering all the nuts before old man winter arrives:D...hoping to win WC, AE and OLY12 (he will be an old man in badminton life when OLY12 comes) is not easy when you know CHN is in full force and aiming hard for the same majors....in conclusion, I agree with you.:D

[OneToughBirdie]

LOL, OneTough.. you better come back Msia become manager or agent for LCW.:p
OG Medalist for Msia so far : Razif, Jailani, Rashid Sidek, Yap KH, Cheah SK and now LCW. Not including the Datuk =5. Those who get same amount pension $$$ as LCW only 2 - good ol Yap & Cheah, who currently still coaching.

As for Han's concern & being selective, there's the political side of things also, sorta. Wait till Misbun come back, see what can be done. And Hendrawan's supposed to be the back up players sifu, maybe + Hafiz. We'll see when Hendrawan turns up in July.;)

Oh yeah, you are right...5 so far and I thought I read somewhere that BAM made it retroactive to reward bonus $$$ to all past OLY medallists...I agree with you on the political side LCW has to play so much, cos' he and KKK/TBH have the better chance of advancing far.....now what happens when LCW retires or if his skills diminish one day and the juniors are good enough for spanking boys and cannot even get out of the Qualifying round...then MAS is in deep doodo up to the neck...as for Misbun, he is a good match for LCW...and I forgot, MAS has invested deeply in Messiah Hendrawan to do what Moses did, now we have to wait for Hendrawan to part the Red Sea...:p:D

[OneToughBirdie]

[quote=eaglehelang;1187287]LOL, OneTough.. you better come back Msia become manager or agent for LCW.:p

Oh, one more thing...as for manager or agent for LCW....reading all the abuse and crap in this forum on anything related to LCW, I pass on the job:D:p and you can have it, Eagle:p:Dthat is why, Rashid is smart to get Hendrawan to coach the juniors and Hafiz (oh boy!), cos the job is bordering on impossible (better luck recruiting Tom Cruise, at least that Tommy boy always make mission impossible possible:p)and Hendrawan can be the fall guy, that is why Hendrawan ask for 5x salary, that Hendra guy is smart too, you know!:D