Who is Nguyen Tien Minh??!! [Archive] - Badminton Central Discussion Forums

Taydzuii

06-11-2009, 10:00 AM

XYMAERTS, I also love Lee Chong Wei but I am happy with Tien Minh Nguyen. He is the proud of my nation.

He is the best player in Viet Nam!

We love Chong Wei's style because his style is academic, exemplary, sharp and terribly talented.

The Vietnamese badminton system is not very well organised so that some non-common talents like Tien Minh have bolted from the blue and his style is undefinable but terribly efficient.

He usually had very good 3-set matches against top players like LIN Dan, Peter GADE, BAO Chun Lai...
Once, Taufik fell into the trap and lost the match.

But we think his present success over Chong Wei came from the recent contract with Victor and surely from his training with the Singaporian Badminton team during the last weeks before the tournament.

:):):)

ye333

06-11-2009, 10:01 AM

Please tell us what you would say if you are not in good form and someone asks you regarding an upcoming tournament? :confused::confused::confused:

The only loser who comes up with excuses before the tournament even begins.

The advantage of it:

1. If win... I am so good that I can win even if I am not in form
2. If loss... don't blame me, because I told you so.

Typical loser.:rolleyes:

hermes

06-11-2009, 10:01 AM

This is from wikipedia:
"Introduced to badminton by his father at the early age of 10, Nguyen Tien Minh was immediately captivated by the sport and its graceful movements. The interest soon developed into a passion which led to Nguyen's crucial decision in 2001 when the athlete was 18 years old: to take on the path of becoming a professional badminton player instead of carrying on his education as his family wished. The young man's determination soon demonstrated its fruitful aspects when Nguyen was recruited into the national team in the same year. However, Nguyen's career did not become well known nation-wide until 2002 when he, at the age of 19, victoriously defeated the long time national champion, Phu Cuong Nguyen, and seized the gold medal for the men single category.
Nevertheless, despite all of Nguyen's painstaking endearment and awe-inspiring progress, the badminton player was receiving a salary of less than 150 US dollars a month, as most Vietnamese athletes were at the time. Now, after 9 years of contributing to the nation's sport team, while his ranking has been progressing significantly and rapidly, Nguyen's income has only been increased by around 50 dollars! This fact further contributes to the wonder of Nguyen's never ceasing improvement and to the spectacle of his flaming spirit, considering the premium and professional conditions the world's top players are being trained in. These athletes, with incomes much higher than that of Nguyen's, normally have specially assigned specialists to look after their every aspect, such as diet, injuries, endurance training, etc., not to mention all the top ranking sporting facilities provided for by the government. On the other side of the scale, Nguyen has been trained in an environment with nothing but poor equipments and has to rely mostly on his family's financial support, the cherished effort of his few coaches, and the quiet contribution of his team mates. The underdeveloped sporting system of Vietnam does not falter the athlete; his unwavering spirit is impenetrable against all the odds he has to face. Now, at the age of 26, Nguyen Tien Minh currently ranks 15th worldwide and still goes on striking generations of badminton lovers around the globe with not only awe but also inspirations. There is no doubt that the athlete will even further improve his ranking in the future, as he is portrayed by a common description in his home country, "the athlete with a herculean progress"."

ye333

06-11-2009, 10:04 AM

Then I guess CL is the one that just kicked the crap out of the so-called "real world No.1" LD? :D:D:D

It seems some people would like to explain everything by conspiracy so that they can argue that LD is invincible. :D:D:D

Who is Nguyen Tien Minh, you ask?

He is the one that just kicked the crap out of the so-called world #1 Lee Chong Wei.:cool:

However, I have a feeling that is some sort of strategy so LCW can focus on the INA tournament and prepare for Lin Dan instead.:confused:

ye333

06-11-2009, 10:05 AM

I guess because he felt tired or something like that.

what's the reason.....becoz of this defeat...???

bananakid

06-11-2009, 10:08 AM

Please tell us what you would say if you are not in good form and someone asks you regarding an upcoming tournament? :confused::confused::confused:

A simple "may the best man win", "I will do my best" or something that doesn't sound like a pre-determined excuse will do.

How hard is it? This is not the first time LCW talked to the press so can't say he doesn't know how to deal with them, and this is not the first time he came up with similar excuse before a tournament either (eg. pressure, coaches, and etc).:rolleyes:

Then I guess CL is the one that just kicked the crap out of the so-called "real world No.1" LD? :D:D:D

It seems some people would like to explain everything by conspiracy so that they can argue that LD is invincible. :D:D:D

Chen Long did kick the crap out of Lin Dan, and it is a fact. However, not before Chen Long kicked the crap out of LCW in India open first. haha

I don't recall Lin Dan making an excuse before the tournament even starts, do you? May be XXF did, but not coming from Lin Dan's mouth.

Accept the loss and move on, instead of giving excuses to oneself before or after the tournament. It is not that difficult.:cool:

Jonc108

06-11-2009, 10:14 AM

i dont believe kicking someone while he's down, only cowards do.

don't think we are kicking AFTER he's down, we did kick, but well before his match when he WAS saying such loser statement that he's not in good form...

everyone knew Nadal was not in a good form before FO09, but did he mentioned anything rubbish about "he's not in a good form" prior to the competition?
NO.
Did Nadal mentioned anything rubbish about his "not-in-good-form", "food poisoning", "coach is not good enough", "not enough good team-mates for practice", etc... after his exit from FO?
NO.
but our badminton world#1 did have a habit in saying some coward things before and after... :(:(

why?
Nadal is a real man, a real champion, a real hero...
our badminton world#1 is still a boy, not yet a real champion..

I like LCW's skill and hardworking, but always upset by his continuous expression of boyish statements (or excuses)... i.e. don't have a respectable mindset / mentality... like what the Chinese say, lack of "the Great General's spirit"... (anyone know the exact wording pls correct me).

hermes

06-11-2009, 10:15 AM

i dont believe kicking someone while he's down, only cowards do.

A coward is someone who clearly has a choice between fairly letting go of the competition and taking advantage of his rival's impaired state but purposefully chooses to do the later. In this situation, I do not believe Tien Minh had a choice. What did you expect him to do? Call off the match, surrender and hand over the victory to Lee Chong Wei simply because he knew LCW was not feeling very well? This is a sport: people's successes come at the expense of others.

I personally think TM played a phenomenal game today though, considering the inadequate training conditions of his country. I don't know whether or not LCW was sick, but whatever the case is, the world's number 1 should definitely tip his hat for this Vietnamese player.

Jonc108

06-11-2009, 10:21 AM

This is from wikipedia:
"..... On the other side of the scale, Nguyen has been trained in an environment with nothing but poor equipments and has to rely mostly on his family's financial support, the cherished effort of his few coaches, and the quiet contribution of his team mates. The underdeveloped sporting system of Vietnam does not falter the athlete; his unwavering spirit is impenetrable against all the odds he has to face. ...."

LCW should read this and reshape his statement on his grumbling about not having enough good team-mates in helping his enhancement of standards... comparing the resources NTM could get in his country and LCW's from Malaysia....

Oldhand

06-11-2009, 10:24 AM

Um, if Lee Chong Wei wasn't feeling well, was tired, was not in form, was unprepared, was unhappy with the shuttle, etc etc etc, why not simply stay away from competing?

This is an open badminton tournament, and not a coerced gladiatorial contest! After all, it would have been an easy choice to stay away since Yonex isn't the Singapore Open's main sponsor.

It's surprising how failure brings up excuses by the dozen :o

Zabee

06-11-2009, 10:25 AM

wow Lee C W lost to him.....hish..

PinkyPG

06-11-2009, 10:29 AM

Ti10Purple

06-11-2009, 10:39 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by ngovankhoi http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1183386#post1183386)
XYMAERTS, I also love Lee Chong Wei but I am happy with Tien Minh Nguyen. He is the proud of my nation.

He is the best player in Viet Nam!

We love Chong Wei's style because his style is academic, exemplary, sharp and terribly talented.

The Vietnamese badminton system is not very well organised so that some non-common talents like Tien Minh have bolted from the blue and his style is undefinable but terribly efficient.

He usually had very good 3-set matches against top players like LIN Dan, Peter GADE, BAO Chun Lai...
Once, Taufik fell into the trap and lost the match.

But we think his present success over Chong Wei came from the recent contract with Victor and surely from his training with the Singaporian Badminton team during the last weeks before the tournament.

i think we have to agreed that a good player is measured by his skills and not by his weapon . China can win tournaments irregardless which brand of rackets they used . Be it a YY , Li Ning , Victor or whatsoever . And to say that from his training with the Singapore Badminton Team contribute to his winning over LCW , if that is so to be true , I think a lot of lower ranking players will be coming to spar with the Singapore Badminton Team to strengthen their chances of winning LD , LCW , Taufik ....... :D
Btw , I was at Aviva 2008 and I watch Tien Minh played and I have to say his is good !

extremenanopowe

06-11-2009, 10:41 AM

He is LCW slayer... hehe... ;)

Zabee

06-11-2009, 10:46 AM

Taufik, Lin D , Chen J , Lee C W & etc should now beware of him..

eaglehelang

06-11-2009, 10:49 AM

<yawn> Dont give reason cannot (then there'll threads on why, why), give reason also cannot. At the end of the day(as repeated many times), it's what the decision makers think what matters, and the decision makers dont think like sports fans.

They want a reason, if not must go see Sports Minister with thick2 report,like what happened in 2008, hehe. In short, there's no plausible reason to explain to the decision makers why LCW cant go Spore SS since he's defending champ. Sick or no sick, in form or not in form, if registered already still must play, if withdraw must pay penalty.

Oh yeah, good to see Nguyen improving. I'll root for him if not vs Msia.

cooler

06-11-2009, 11:01 AM

robin7

06-11-2009, 11:05 AM

Even the King of Clay loses in early round, so what is wrong with LCW's loss to a talented NTM?

I'm okay with the loss but LCW needs to be more diplomatic when answering questions to the press.

Oldhand

06-11-2009, 11:10 AM

Even the King of Clay loses in early round, so what is wrong with LCW's loss to a talented NTM?

I'm okay with the loss but LCW needs to be more diplomatic when answering questions to the press.
That's very maturely put.
Indeed, there's nothing shameful in losing to someone who played a better game that day.

But it's quite embarrassing when someone attempts to prop up a honourable loss with theories of contractual pressure and whatnot :o

Give the winner his due.
After all, he deserves it.

Krisna

06-11-2009, 11:11 AM

He is the hottest Vietnamese badminton player.
He received new sponsor by Victor from this tournament and he is trying to show that he deserve that ^^

Nguyễn Tiến Minh, the No1 player of Vietnambadminton!!! Thats our pride.

XYMAERTS, I also love Lee Chong Wei but I am happy with Tien Minh Nguyen. He is the proud of my nation.

He is the best player in Viet Nam!

Correct me if I am wrong... but I think he might be the undisputed best Vietnamese badminton player ever.... :cool: I've followed badminton for 25 years now and I don't remember any Vietnamese player that can defeat top guns like Taufik Hidayat and Lee Chong Wei... :p

Badminton in Vietnam will boom even further after his feats. I think many Vietnamese will start to believe that they can play top level badminton... ;) This is good for badminton worldwide... :cool:

Zabee

06-11-2009, 11:14 AM

afterall a win stills a win....

Oldhand

06-11-2009, 11:17 AM

By the way, the answer to the question in this thread's title is here:
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1183493

cooler

06-11-2009, 11:37 AM

Correct me if I am wrong... but I think he might be the undisputed best Vietnamese badminton player ever.... :cool: I've followed badminton for 25 years now and I don't remember any Vietnamese player that can defeat top guns like Taufik Hidayat and Lee Chong Wei... :p

Badminton in Vietnam will boom even further after his feats. I think many Vietnamese will start to believe that they can play top level badminton... ;) This is good for badminton worldwide... :cool:this is just my opinion but i think credit should goes to Lin Dan first:D. You see, LD lost to ronald susilo in early round of the 04 OG which lifted singapore badminton spirit and training activity. This in turn attracted young stars from emerging countries like NTM of vietnam to go to SG to train, and led to the defeat of LCW. :D:cool::p:)

bananakid

06-11-2009, 11:59 AM

Please tell us what you would say if you are not in good form and someone asks you regarding an upcoming tournament? :confused::confused::confused:

Here is a better more complicated answer to your question:

"There are quite a few very tough contenders in this tournament, (name a few), and anyone of them has what it takes to win this tournament. I will do my best and may the best man win".

How difficult is it, really? You hear from Lin Dan to the press a few times already, "LCW is the strongest competitor today, and bluh, bluh, bluh", but Lin Dan never mentions anything about his vacation, time off, or any out of form status. That way, if he wins, he is not belittling his opponent like LCW just did to poor Andrew Smith(I can still thrash you even if I am off form), or an excuse arises when he lost to Nguyen(all those excuses would not have appeared in this thread if not for what LCW said earlier).

bananakid

06-11-2009, 12:01 PM

this is just my opinion but i think credit should goes to Lin Dan first:D. You see, LD lost to ronald susilo in early round of the 04 OG which lifted singapore badminton spirit and training activity. This in turn attracted young stars from emerging countries like NTM of vietnam to go to SG to train, and led to the defeat of LCW. :D:cool::p:)

You better specify that this is a joke only, or huangkwokhau is going to come after you again as usual.:p

george@chongwei

06-11-2009, 12:04 PM

don't think we are kicking AFTER he's down, we did kick, but well before his match when he WAS saying such loser statement that he's not in good form...

everyone knew Nadal was not in a good form before FO09, but did he mentioned anything rubbish about "he's not in a good form" prior to the competition?
NO.
Did Nadal mentioned anything rubbish about his "not-in-good-form", "food poisoning", "coach is not good enough", "not enough good team-mates for practice", etc... after his exit from FO?
NO.
but our badminton world#1 did have a habit in saying some coward things before and after... :(:(

why?
Nadal is a real man, a real champion, a real hero...
our badminton world#1 is still a boy, not yet a real champion..

I like LCW's skill and hardworking, but always upset by his continuous expression of boyish statements (or excuses)... i.e. don't have a respectable mindset / mentality... like what the Chinese say, lack of "the Great General's spirit"... (anyone know the exact wording pls correct me).
please compare apple to apple. tennis and badminton is totally different. tell me, do you find tennis and badminton similar?;)
Um, if Lee Chong Wei wasn't feeling well, was tired, was not in form, was unprepared, was unhappy with the shuttle, etc etc etc, why not simply stay away from competing?

This is an open badminton tournament, and not a coerced gladiatorial contest! After all, it would have been an easy choice to stay away since Yonex isn't the Singapore Open's main sponsor.

It's surprising how failure brings up excuses by the dozen :o
actually i'm quite surprise that u didnt know he needs to defend this title which he won last year. the ranking points, sponsor thingy.etc. and i believe there's still many things behind the scene out there we actually do not know regarding him participate in this tournament. perhaps u could tell us how NTM played and how chong wei fare in the game since u were there just now.:);)
Even the King of Clay loses in early round, so what is wrong with LCW's loss to a talented NTM?

I'm okay with the loss but LCW needs to be more diplomatic when answering questions to the press.
Agree with this. overall the best man won that day. NObody can be perfect. even the dominant pair of jjs/lyd, lu lan and also pi hong yan lost yesterday. whats the big deal? Not to mention today koo/tan and peter gade also lose. at the end of the day, we could only know nguyen tien minh of vietnam played a superb game and win the match.

pjswift

06-11-2009, 12:12 PM

super nice today... he did it... ya, being Vietnamese, i m proud of him... of course we cant shout loud to support for him as u all, alot ppl in the stadium supported for LCW today, we were worry just now, but now we are happy that he did it... bravo TM... congrat...
The crowd was very fair tonight.There was no loud support for LCW during play. Both players got applauded accordingly when they won hard fought points. In fact, underdogs know they always stand a chance in Singapore because the crowd would show appreciation through applause regardless of player status.
Nguyen Tien Minh is in a class of his own because he has no coach (during tournaments anyway) and as such is used to figuring out for himself. That helps to develop his resourcefulness which gives him an edge.
It was a thrilling match and there's nothing wrong with LCW losing to NTM. NTM is a dangerous opponent to any top MS including LD. The great note is that NTM has improved over last year at the ABC (when he stretched LD to the end.)
I 'm happy that NTM won. Unusually he showed some emotion so the win is significant to him and may that give him the confidence for greater aims.
(I hope someone videoed the match. It was a shot-for-shot,non-stop out-of- this-world kind of match.Most of the lucky crowd thought LCW would have lost in 2 games because NTM was so relentless but LCW gave us a 3rd game treat!)

bananakid

06-11-2009, 12:13 PM

Agree with this. overall the best man won that day. NObody can be perfect. even the dominant pair of jjs/lyd, lu lan and also pi hong yan lost yesterday. whats the big deal? Not to mention today koo/tan and peter gade also lose. at the end of the day, we could only know nguyen tien minh of vietnam played a superb game and win the match.

The big deal is that due to LCW's speech(excuses) to the press about his poor form, Nguyen is not getting the respect he deserves for the win because now some people CAN question if he really has what it takes to beat LCW if not for LCW's poor form.:mad:

LazyBuddy

06-11-2009, 12:13 PM

The player who plays better and smarter won the game, period. At least for today, this player is not LCW.

That's why I said in another thread, the "Great" is defined by "consistency". LCW had a good start this year for 2 SS, but then it gives in the early round of this one. So, this is the old story we've seen over and over.

Unless he can be mentally tougher and win the important matches on a consistent basis, then, he is the "flash light" in badminton history, rather than the greatest stars...

LazyBuddy

06-11-2009, 12:17 PM

Agree with this. overall the best man won that day. NObody can be perfect. even the dominant pair of jjs/lyd, lu lan and also pi hong yan lost yesterday. whats the big deal? Not to mention today koo/tan and peter gade also lose. at the end of the day, we could only know nguyen tien minh of vietnam played a superb game and win the match.

But I do not remember Lu Lan or Pi HY or others claim themselves as Nadal or Federer as well?

Or, PI or Lu or their fans claim defeating them is "drinking boiling water"?

george@chongwei

06-11-2009, 12:20 PM

The big deal is that due to LCW's speech(excuses) to the press about his poor form, Nguyen is not getting the respect he deserves for the win because now some people CAN question if he really has what it takes to beat LCW if not for LCW's poor form.:mad:
LCW already stated that he is not in a very good condition before this tournament begins. So today defeat of him to NTM, its no surprise to us i believe. but i believe everyone else also will know that NTM played a very wonderful game to beat the WR1 now;)

george@chongwei

06-11-2009, 12:21 PM

But I do not remember Lu Lan or Pi HY or others claim themselves as Nadal or Federer as well?

Or, PI or Lu or their fans claim defeating them is "drinking boiling water"?
u should ask those who start the use the statement 'drinking boiling water' 1st;)

LazyBuddy

06-11-2009, 12:24 PM

LCW already stated that he is not in a very good condition before this tournament begins. So today defeat of him to NTM, its no surprise to us i believe. but i believe everyone else also will know that NTM played a very wonderful game to beat the WR1 now;)

Well, so, LCW is always honest, and whatever he said, we have to take it. Then how come whenever LYB or LD issue some statement, so many ppl directly conclude "lie", "shameless", "cheater", "excuses"??? :rolleyes:

Do we see double standard again? :p

george@chongwei

06-11-2009, 12:26 PM

But it's quite embarrassing when someone attempts to prop up a honourable loss with theories of contractual pressure and whatnot :o

by the way, where did you heard chong wei giving excuses today after his loss to NTM?:(
i thought chong wei just mentioned to the press that he is not in a good shape for this tournament? and i think thats before the start of this tournament

george@chongwei

06-11-2009, 12:30 PM

Well, so, LCW is always honest, and whatever he said, we have to take it. Then how come whenever LYB or LD issue some statement, so many ppl directly conclude "lie", "shameless", "cheater", "excuses"??? :rolleyes:

Do we see double standard again? :p
im just speaking the fact that chong wei already state that he's not in a good shape before this tournament actually;)
while on LYB or LD issue some statement, so many ppl directly conclude "lie", "shameless", "cheater", "excuses thingy, i believe u should know the answer:D

jensen9173

06-11-2009, 12:36 PM

What so big deal as the Top world ranking 1 LCW and 2. Taufik lost in second round in Singapore. Even to the far lower ranking players. Cheer:D

bananakid

06-11-2009, 12:37 PM

by the way, where did you heard chong wei giving excuses today after his loss to NTM?:(
i thought chong wei just mentioned to the press that he is not in a good shape for this tournament? and i think thats before the start of this tournament

Giving out an excuse before the tournament is not considered as an excuse?:confused::confused::confused: So, from now on, everyone can just claim that he/she is off form, and take the credit if win, but can't blame him/her when lose. THAT'S A GOOD DEAL!!! better than what you can get from Wal-mart.:rolleyes:

As an athlete, you don't tell others that you are off form(that's just an excuse and insurance policy for yourself in case you lose)... keep your mouth shut and do your job.

eaglehelang

06-11-2009, 12:37 PM

Well, so, LCW is always honest, and whatever he said, we have to take it. Then how come whenever LYB or LD issue some statement, so many ppl directly conclude "lie", "shameless", "cheater", "excuses"??? :rolleyes:

Do we see double standard again? :p

Cos when LCW issue statements also, there're also so many who say "lame excuses", 'mentally weak', now got new one "saying coward things". Same2 lor. Like I said in another thread, works both ways.;):p:p

LazyBuddy

06-11-2009, 12:37 PM

Whether LCW's statement is the truth or the "smoke", it's not going to be a great statement, especial we hope he can "prove something".

The true champion and great, hide all the worst to himself, and let the racket do the talk. Whether they did it while facing tons of issues, or without a sweat, they let the fans judge the fact, while they are raising the trophy.
Playing word game, or simply showing lackness of confidence will only pull LCW further away from "whatever to be proved"

And seriously, when LCW say, "not good form", your guys say "honest statement". When a CHN player claim injury, lose a match or WO, some ppl directly jump on the "cheating". So, I wonder where all the investigation taking place, and where the proof for each case is. :cool:

cooler

06-11-2009, 12:40 PM

You better specify that this is a joke only, or huangkwokhau is going to come after you again as usual.:pi hope not. I always thot that his computer beeps him only when cooler's post contained the characters 'TH', 'taufik' or 'hidiyat':D

LazyBuddy

06-11-2009, 12:40 PM

Cos when LCW issue statements also, there're also so many who say "lame excuses", 'mentally weak', now got new one "saying coward things". Same2 lor. Like I said in another thread, works both ways.;):p:p

Seriously, when you really take upon a mission, the worst thing you want to focus or let others to know is "i am not good now".

To me, if you are really determined to challenge yourself, either 1. face the difficulty, and concentrate on your work (not mouth), or 2. if really seriously issues prevent participating, withdraw and save the best for next time.

Any statement of "not good enough now", only shows one thing - not being prepared. :cool:

george@chongwei

06-11-2009, 12:44 PM

Giving out an excuse before the tournament is not considered as an excuse?:confused::confused::confused: So, from now on, everyone can just claim that he/she is off form, and take the credit if win, but can't blame him/her when lose. THAT'S A GOOD DEAL!!! better than what you can get from Wal-mart.:rolleyes:

As an athlete, you don't tell others that you are off form(that's just an excuse and insurance policy for yourself in case you lose)... keep your mouth shut and do your job.
that's not an excuse. an excuse is like if u fail to do something, u will be giving out something excuses. that's called excuses. but in this case, LCW said this even before the tournament starts. and that's not an excuse though.at least to me. and your statement of as an athlete, dont tell others u'r off form or whatsoever. what to do, chong wei is the current WR1 and the media is always following him.. ya know?;)

bananakid

06-11-2009, 12:46 PM

i hope not. I always thot that his computer beeps him only when cooler's post contained the characters 'TH', 'taufik' or 'hidiyat':D

You forgot one very important keyword, and that is "cooler":D:D:D

cooler

06-11-2009, 12:48 PM

You forgot one very important keyword, and that is "cooler":D:D:D

:eek::eek:
your note is well taken..

bananakid

06-11-2009, 12:50 PM

that's not an excuse. an excuse is like if u fail to do something, u will be giving out something excuses. that's called excuses. but in this case, LCW said this even before the tournament starts. and that's not an excuse though.at least to me. and your statement of as an athlete, dont tell others u'r off form or whatsoever. what to do, chong wei is the current WR1 and the media is always following him.. ya know?;)

How is it not an excuse? If you miss a school day, do you call in before the day starts, or do you call in after the school day is over? Either way, it is an excuse.

Media... Like I said before. When you say " I am off form", you put your opponents' credit in question...

1. you win... (eg. LCW won over Smith) I can still beat you(in this case, thrash you) even when I am off form.

2. you lose... (eg. LCW lost against Nguyen) I told you I am off form, that's why I lost.

A simple answer could have been "The competition is fierce, and any top player can win this tournament. I will do my best to achieve the best result." How hard is it??? :confused:

eaglehelang

06-11-2009, 12:51 PM

Seriously, when you really take upon a mission, the worst thing you want to focus or let others to know is "i am not good now".

To me, if you are really determined to challenge yourself, either 1. face the difficulty, and concentrate on your work (not mouth), or 2. if really seriously issues prevent participating, withdraw and save the best for next time.

Any statement of "not good enough now", only shows one thing - not being prepared. :cool:

Withdraw? Who pay penalty fee? USD200 leh.
I did say in page 2 of this thread that the decision makers dont think like sports fans, which is often seen in their public statements. We shall see the next few days what's in the press, esp malay language press.;);)

And again, congrats to Nguyen, may there be better & better days for him.

pjswift

06-11-2009, 12:55 PM

bananakid

06-11-2009, 01:00 PM

wow, I'm amazed by the posters here claiming LCW's pre-tournament statement as an excuse for NTM's win.
When LCW's tournament objective is to pick up ranking points, it means he is not 100% prepared and may lose early but it will not hurt his confidence.There is nothing wrong with turning up and trying his best shot.

The problem is people have this image in their mind that the WR1 must only play in a tournament to win the title.That happens to be the case with LD. If LD is not confident of winning a title, he's unlikely to play because he wants to maintain the 'invincible' image.
LCW does not have to restrict himself to just that tournament objective and badminton fans are richer for that. For example, if LCW's objective were to win the title and he was not 100% prepared for it so he decided not to play, then we would have been deprived of this sensational LCW/NTM match.

Give us your view as to why LCW has to let the "badminton world" know that he is not in form if he doesn't want to use this as an excuse in case he doesn't win the tournament? What is the point of such a statement??? enlighten me, please.

If what you say is true.. then he can simply tell the media "my objective is just to pick up as many ranking points as possible and to entertain my fans... end of story" why the additional useless statement about "I am not in form"??? Why????

He can easily avoid saying such a thing and nobody can blame him for losing... but as soon as that comes out from his big mouth, he has to deal with the consequences.