I see we could see these two again early in second round :)
I hope Bhat will be in good shape to make another great battle vs Killer. Or LD doesn't miss twice to the same opponent?;)

I see we could see these two again early in second round :)
I hope Bhat will be in good shape to make another great battle vs Killer. Or LD doesn't miss twice to the same opponent?;)

Please...when and where did Bhat have beaten LD....?? :confused:

Bhat is out in First round :-( ..pretty normal for Indian team in super series..All are out in first round..

Please...when and where did Bhat have beaten LD....?? :confused:

he won a set. its pretty enough I think to be considered as a rival for LD ;)

so pity he missed in 1st

he won a set. its pretty enough I think to be considered as a rival for LD ;)

so pity he missed in 1st

You sure he won it, not LD charity?

he won a set. its pretty enough I think to be considered as a rival for LD ;)

so pity he missed in 1st

LD is known to play easy in first rounder, actually LD can actually lose in first round. Therefore to take one set from LD I would not even rate Bhat as rival. Try taking one set from LD in QF, SF and F, then I am convinced.

You sure he won it, not LD charity?close, i alway had said b4 that LD is generous:D

You sure he won it, not LD charity?
Thinking this way every lost set by LD is charity not? Especially not vs LCW?

Thinking this way every lost set by LD is charity not? Especially not vs LCW?

About charity set to other players like LCW, it could be. I mean if LD plays like how he did at the 2008 Beijing Olympic, who's going to be able take a set from him. He basically steamed rolled, white washed, etc... LCW.

If you watch the 2009 AE match between LD and Joachim, LD basically toyed with Joachim. Even Joachim said that it's near impossible to play against LD and Joachim is ranked like top 10 or 15.

I didn't mean to put down Bhat or disrespect him in anyway. It's just that it's hard to compare when they've only played against each other once.

About charity set to other players like LCW, it could be. I mean if LD plays like how he did at the 2008 Beijing Olympic, who's going to be able take a set from him. He basically steamed rolled, white washed, etc... LCW.

If you watch the 2009 AE match between LD and Joachim, LD basically toyed with Joachim. Even Joachim said that it's near impossible to play against LD and Joachim is ranked like top 10 or 15.

I didn't mean to put down Bhat or disrespect him in anyway. It's just that it's hard to compare when they've only played against each other once.

yes a game with Person was "nightmare" btw who was at 6th world rank then..
now I checked that also Bhat is not less than 27th in the world

Can you play your very best in every tournament? Do you think you are giving "charity sets" when you could not play your very best? :cool:

LCW also "toyed" Persson before (with a every more impressive scoreline 21:6,21:4 if I remember correctly), does that mean he also gave a lot of "charity sets"? ;)

About charity set to other players like LCW, it could be. I mean if LD plays like how he did at the 2008 Beijing Olympic, who's going to be able take a set from him. He basically steamed rolled, white washed, etc... LCW.

If you watch the 2009 AE match between LD and Joachim, LD basically toyed with Joachim. Even Joachim said that it's near impossible to play against LD and Joachim is ranked like top 10 or 15.

I didn't mean to put down Bhat or disrespect him in anyway. It's just that it's hard to compare when they've only played against each other once.

Can you play your very best in every tournament? Do you think you are giving "charity sets" when you could not play your very best? :cool:

LCW also "toyed" Persson before (with a every more impressive scoreline 21:6,21:4 if I remember correctly), does that mean he also gave a lot of "charity sets"? ;)

jp game is just about power,nothing much
when he meet tactical player like lcw and ld,die very soon
jp been toyed by both ld and lcw
lcw beat jp a few times with jp score both set under 10.
i think this(jp) is special case:)

Can you play your very best in every tournament? Do you think you are giving "charity sets" when you could not play your very best? :cool:

LCW also "toyed" Persson before (with a every more impressive scoreline 21:6,21:4 if I remember correctly), does that mean he also gave a lot of "charity sets"? ;)

Is also such an insult to claim "charity set" given to the opponent. I am sure reputed players will not claim that kind of victory and for anyone to declare such as a scenario is just plain poor taste, kidding or not kidding. Players have pride, win or lose, and we should respect that.

Can you play your very best in every tournament? Do you think you are giving "charity sets" when you could not play your very best? :cool:

LCW also "toyed" Persson before (with a every more impressive scoreline 21:6,21:4 if I remember correctly), does that mean he also gave a lot of "charity sets"? ;)
leaving only 6 and 4 point to JP, that's no charity.
i think u got charity work and fearing loosing mixed up.

Is also such an insult to claim "charity set" given to the opponent. I am sure reputed players will not claim that kind of victory and for anyone to declare such as a scenario is just plain poor taste, kidding or not kidding. Players have pride, win or lose, and we should respect that.

LCW also gave a charity set to Hafiz in their encounter in this Ina open... I mean it is so obvious... 21-7, 19-21, 21-7. LCW helps Hafiz to keep his job during this recession(since it could have been an easy 21-7,21-7 instead), and to me, LCW deserves his Datuk title for his kindness.:cool:

leaving only 6 and 4 point to JP, that's no charity.
i think u got charity work and fearing loosing mixed up.

i though ur english would have be better than me
for my understanding
ye333 mean if he can beat jp(world number 6) leaving 4 and 6 to him,he should be able to beat those below wr 6 more comfortly.but he didnt,why?charity?
just like what u claim,ld can beat lcw with lcw score less than 21 in og final,more than that is charity,right?:rolleyes:

Definitely disagree. Why should LCW put himself into 3 sets knowing he will meet strong opponents like PSH, LD, TH and PG in the following 3 days?

LCW also gave a charity set to Hafiz in their encounter in this Ina open... I mean it is so obvious... 21-7, 19-21, 21-7. LCW helps Hafiz to keep his job during this recession(since it could have been an easy 21-7,21-7 instead), and to me, LCW deserves his Datuk title for his kindness.:cool:

i though ur english would have be better than me
for my understanding
ye333 mean if he can beat jp(world number 6) leaving 4 and 6 to him,he should be able to beat those below wr 6 more comfortly.but he didnt,why?charity?
just like what u claim,ld can beat lcw with lcw score less than 21 in og final,more than that is charity,right?:rolleyes:
i dont know where u read it from, i have posted before in 08 OG, LD wasn't into charity work. LYB prohibited any charity donation from his team during the OG. Got it?

Definitely disagree. Why should LCW put himself into 3 sets knowing he will meet strong opponents like PSH, LD, TH and PG in the following 3 days?hey, that's yoyo. HH can yo up and down within a match as well.

Definitely disagree. Why should LCW put himself into 3 sets knowing he will meet strong opponents like PSH, LD, TH and PG in the following 3 days?

Charity is for the people with a selfless heart of giving, and that's how wonder LCW is as a person... completely selfless. Maybe you should try doing some charity work once in a while then you will know the meaning of "giving is better than receiving";)

Then why was LCW so mean in the first and the 3rd games? :confused: Why not do 22:20, 22:20? That definitely makes HH look better. And furthermore such "charity" as you proposed is in fact humiliation to opponents, so actually not "charity" at all.

Anyway, I see some difference between you and cooler here. ;)

Charity is for the people with a selfless heart of giving, and that's how wonder LCW is as a person... completely selfless. Maybe you should try doing some charity work once in a while then you will know the meaning of "giving is better than receiving";)

So you are saying LD is the only player who gave "charity sets"?

hey, that's yoyo. HH can yo up and down within a match as well.

Then why was LCW so mean in the first and the 3rd games? :confused: Why not do 22:20, 22:20? That definitely makes HH look better. And furthermore such "charity" as you proposed is in fact humiliation to opponents, so actually not "charity" at all.

Anyway, I see some difference between you and cooler here. ;)
seriously speaking. HH has graduated beyond humilation, anymore is not gonna hurt him:p

me and bananakid have independent minds. We don't conlude or fix our posting content. In this case, i don't see any contradiction here. My previous discussion was specific to lcw vs JP. I can even say on BF record which i knew long ago, that lcw is mentally superb against players HE KNOWS HE CAN BEAT*. Got it yet?

*ex. JP, Simon Santoso, Marc Zwiebler, Jan Jorgensen, etc

how come lcw wasn't generous to Simon?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IslajYwWy10
i'm very sure LD would have lessen the noose tension on simon

lmao, not again.. some people need to get over themselves and stop whining over ld this and ld that. it just make u look like a sore loser ...seriously get off the internet and get laid lol

Then why was LCW so mean in the first and the 3rd games? :confused: Why not do 22:20, 22:20? That definitely makes HH look better. And furthermore such "charity" as you proposed is in fact humiliation to opponents, so actually not "charity" at all.

Anyway, I see some difference between you and cooler here. ;)

Come on... Haven't you realized that when it comes to matters related to Hafiz, it has almost always been joking here and there.

Example:

BAM president: Hafiz, how come you got beaten by Chong Wei again?

Hafiz: I wasn't warm up properly for the first set, but you saw how I could go toe to toe with Chong wei and beat him in the second set though, didn't you?

BAM. P: yeah, but you lost again in the third set pretty badly.

Hafiz: well, I thought Chong Wei needed the ranking points more than I do, so I gave away the match to him, plus saved him some energy for later rounds. Now... what about that loyalty bonus you promised me before?;)

lmao, not again.. some people need to get over themselves and stop whining over ld this and ld that. it just make u look like a sore loser ...seriously get off the internet and get laid lol

Best advice of the century.:cool: However, did you know that one of the best business opportunity in the world today is "combining the usage of the internet and getting laid" LOL:p

'retracted'..................i better not say...

Definitely disagree. Why should LCW put himself into 3 sets knowing he will meet strong opponents like PSH, LD, TH and PG in the following 3 days?
Because malaysia is not like china team.. arranging who's gonna win a match or whatever:rolleyes:

Because malaysia is not like china team.. arranging who's gonna win a match or whatever:rolleyes:
Cos they can't afford to.

Cos they can't afford to.
coz they dont have a 'good' leader like LYB too i think:rolleyes:

coz they dont have a 'good' leader like LYB too i think:rolleyes:
Cos they are not united, and even if they do give up a game. You can't guarantee any outcomes.
There is no real superiority of players apart from LCW.

LCW also gave a charity set to Hafiz in their encounter in this Ina open... I mean it is so obvious... 21-7, 19-21, 21-7. LCW helps Hafiz to keep his job during this recession(since it could have been an easy 21-7,21-7 instead), and to me, LCW deserves his Datuk title for his kindness.:cool:

Hey bananakid

You should have plenty of gf, girls like men with a GSOH these days and you are good.

Cos they are not united, and even if they do give up a game. You can't guarantee any outcomes.
There is no real superiority of players apart from LCW.
That's the special about Malaysia and the only one LCW;)

I think we're going off topic a bit here with the charity, and the bad thing is that I start it.

I truly believe that LD and LCW are in a class of their own. Taking a set does not mean that you can compare the opponents to them. I've seen those two have tougher 2 setters then 3. Like when LD played against SDK in the 2007 world championship. That was a tough 2 set.

Often times they decide to take a breather in the second set and finish in the 3rd so it's not so suprising that they drop a set here and there.

There is indeed a "contradiction". You both believe that LD is god and those sets/matches he lost are "charity sets/matches". However you disagree on whether other players, in particular LCW can have this god-like privilege/ability to be similarly kind-hearted. :D

seriously speaking. HH has graduated beyond humilation, anymore is not gonna hurt him:p

me and bananakid have independent minds. We don't conlude or fix our posting content. In this case, i don't see any contradiction here. My previous discussion was specific to lcw vs JP. I can even say on BF record which i knew long ago, that lcw is mentally superb against players HE KNOWS HE CAN BEAT*. Got it yet?

*ex. JP, Simon Santoso, Marc Zwiebler, Jan Jorgensen, etc

how come lcw wasn't generous to Simon?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IslajYwWy10
i'm very sure LD would have lessen the noose tension on simon

you guys do understand that being "charitable" during a game, is the biggest insult possible to your opponent -_-

There is indeed a "contradiction". You both believe that LD is god and those sets/matches he lost are "charity sets/matches". However you disagree on whether other players, in particular LCW can have this god-like privilege/ability to be similarly kind-hearted. :D

May be you are not religious, but please stop using the name of the mighty in this context.:(

Anyways, I don't see Lin Dan as having "the all mighty" abilities, neither do I treat him as a superior being. To me, he is more of a "tool" to clam down the "LCW is the best" spirit of the boleh fans.:p

However, without a question that Lin Dan is a much better representative(in terms of appearance) to promote badminton in the western society than LCW.

you guys do understand that being "charitable" during a game, is the biggest insult possible to your opponent -_-

I bet you that Hafiz is so happy that LCW gave him a set so he didn't lose in a horrific fashion.:p

I apologize if I offended you. However please note that I didn't capitalize the first letter, as far as I know the word only refers to the almighty when the first letter is capitalized.

May be you are not religious, but please stop using the name of the mighty in this context.:(

Anyways, I don't see Lin Dan as having "the all mighty" abilities, neither do I treat him as a superior being. To me, he is more of a "tool" to clam down the "LCW is the best" spirit of the boleh fans.:p

However, without a question that Lin Dan is a much better representative(in terms of appearance) to promote badminton in the western society than LCW.

Cos they can't afford to.

thats why losers whine in front of their computers, winners go home and f##k the prom queen:cool: