View Full Version : The field of LD's rivals getting enlarged?
dassad
06-19-2009, 08:53 AM
I just know came to PC and watched online results.
21:4
what this hell is about? Fromwhen LD loses in such way? He did lost to CJ before but not so disgraceful:eek:
What a reason to come playing once a quarter and lost 21:4?? Has CJ been just a killer in this match or what?
From now on I see the field of LD's rivals getting enlarged - not only LCW's challenge meets LD in coming WCH..
george@chongwei
06-19-2009, 08:57 AM
no, you are wrong..lin dan is being a very good generous men there.;)
u should know it
dassad
06-19-2009, 08:58 AM
no, you are wrong..lin dan is being a very good generous men there.;)
u should know it
I'm as a boiling water here.. have you seen a match?
olympic
06-19-2009, 09:04 AM
No surprise LD lost to his fellow team-mate...LD also defeated by his team-mate Chen Long not so long ago.Don't worry,LD always has good record against "outsider".Maybe this time the China coaching staff are playing some mind-game or strategy,who knows?!
george@chongwei
06-19-2009, 09:06 AM
I'm as a boiling water here.. have you seen a match?
No need to see the match also will know..just look at the score..its too obvious he's too generous now.
dassad
06-19-2009, 09:07 AM
No surprise LD lost to his fellow team-mate...LD also defeated by his team-mate Chen Long not so long ago.Don't worry,LD always has good record against "outsider".Maybe this time the China coaching staff are playing some mind-game or strategy,who knows?!
yes it's looking exactly like some strategy
as if at the 4:4 score coach tells LD - ok, that's enough, relax
despite anyway a 21:4 just kills me
ye333
06-19-2009, 09:18 AM
There was never a 4:4 in the 3rd game... It's 7:1 -> 18:2 -> 19:3 -> 21:4 (Maybe LD said to CJ at 19:3 "Com'on! I am better than TH!", CJ said "Oops, sorry I forgot, here's your 4th point.").
Is there anyone who watched the match?
This is the first time (after OG) LD lost in the first tournament after training (LD lost in HK and Swiss but they are both the 2nd tournament of back-to-back events).
yes it's looking exactly like some strategy
as if at the 4:4 score coach tells LD - ok, that's enough, relax
despite anyway a 21:4 just kills me
dassad
06-19-2009, 09:27 AM
18:2??
I gonna watch the game. i cant remember this in between top players
LD just missed one point after another?
olympic
06-19-2009, 09:30 AM
yes it's looking exactly like some strategy
as if at the 4:4 score coach tells LD - ok, that's enough, relax
despite anyway a 21:4 just kills me
21-4...
Coach: Hey,CJ,LD...both of you already "battle" for 1 hour,it is enough for warm-up and the spectators in the stadium are being well-entertained too...one two zoom...ok,CJ you go wrap up the game...:D
Tekkai
06-19-2009, 09:36 AM
I din watch the game but I was stunned when I saw the score...did LD totally gave up playing?? wad exactly happen??
george@chongwei
06-19-2009, 09:37 AM
I din watch the game but I was stunned when I saw the score...did LD totally gave up playing?? wad exactly happen??
Read post #2 for more info:D
bananakid
06-19-2009, 09:46 AM
None of you understand how caring Lin Dan really is.
Lin Dan realized that if he continued to play hard with Chen Jin in the 3rd set, it may take over an hour and a half to finish the match, but then there are plenty more matches following his match. So for the sake of the spectators(and the viewers online), he decided to let Chen Jin win easier, so everybody will get to go home(or go to sleep) earlier and be able to go to work with some energy tomorrow, which in terms help everyone keep their job and keep the economy growing even during this recession period.
Look at how selfish Gade and Taufik are... for their own benefits, they took over 73 minutes just to finish off their match, and there is still another match to follow. The fans stay up until late night, causing lack of sleep the next day, and possibly risking getting fired... in terms causing an increase in unemployment rate + decrease in the GDP and affects the entire global economy.
Now that you people know the truth behind this incident, those who were cursing or blaming Lin Dan should be ashamed of yourself.
We should thank Lin Dan for his generousity, everyone gives your appaluse!!!:cool:
limsy
06-19-2009, 09:50 AM
None of you understand how caring Lin Dan really is.
Lin Dan realized that if he continued to play hard with Chen Jin in the 3rd set, it may take over an hour and a half to finish the match, but then there are plenty more matches following his match. So for the sake of the spectators(and the viewers online), he decided to let Chen Jin win easier, so everybody will get to go home(or go to sleep) earlier and be able to go to work with some energy tomorrow, which in terms help everyone keep their job and keep the economy growing even during this recession period.
Look at how selfish Gade and Taufik are... for their own benefits, they took over 73 minutes just to finish off their match, and there is still another match to follow. The fans stay up until late night, causing lack of sleep the next day, and possibly risking getting fired... in terms causing an increase in unemployment rate + decrease in the GDP and affects the entire global economy.
Now that you people know the truth behind this incident, those who were cursing or blaming Lin Dan should be ashamed of yourself.
We should thank Lin Dan for his generousity, everyone gives your appaluse!!!:cool:
ya,everyone,give your applause to bananakid:D
Amin Khalili
06-19-2009, 09:52 AM
no, you are wrong..lin dan is being a very good generous men there.;)
u should know it
You can say that if Chong Wei lose ..
ye333
06-19-2009, 09:53 AM
That is in fact not true...:D LD vs CJ is not on TV court, even if they play 2 hours, there are many ways to arrange the following matches so that they won't start too late.
None of you understand how caring Lin Dan really is.
Lin Dan realized that if he continued to play hard with Chen Jin in the 3rd set, it may take over an hour and a half to finish the match, but then there are plenty more matches following his match. So for the sake of the spectators(and the viewers online), he decided to let Chen Jin win easier, so everybody will get to go home(or go to sleep) earlier and be able to go to work with some energy tomorrow, which in terms help everyone keep their job and keep the economy growing even during this recession period.
Look at how selfish Gade and Taufik are... for their own benefits, they took over 73 minutes just to finish off their match, and there is still another match to follow. The fans stay up until late night, causing lack of sleep the next day, and possibly risking getting fired... in terms causing an increase in unemployment rate + decrease in the GDP and affects the entire global economy.
Now that you people know the truth behind this incident, those who were cursing or blaming Lin Dan should be ashamed of yourself.
We should thank Lin Dan for his generousity, everyone gives your appaluse!!!:cool:
Amin Khalili
06-19-2009, 09:54 AM
None of you understand how caring Lin Dan really is.
Lin Dan realized that if he continued to play hard with Chen Jin in the 3rd set, it may take over an hour and a half to finish the match, but then there are plenty more matches following his match. So for the sake of the spectators(and the viewers online), he decided to let Chen Jin win easier, so everybody will get to go home(or go to sleep) earlier and be able to go to work with some energy tomorrow, which in terms help everyone keep their job and keep the economy growing even during this recession period.
Look at how selfish Gade and Taufik are... for their own benefits, they took over 73 minutes just to finish off their match, and there is still another match to follow. The fans stay up until late night, causing lack of sleep the next day, and possibly risking getting fired... in terms causing an increase in unemployment rate + decrease in the GDP and affects the entire global economy.
Now that you people know the truth behind this incident, those who were cursing or blaming Lin Dan should be ashamed of yourself.
We should thank Lin Dan for his generousity, everyone gives your appaluse!!!:cool:
I thought badminton fans have a big spirit to watch the match ...
bananakid
06-19-2009, 09:55 AM
That is in fact not true...:D LD vs CJ is not on TV court, even if they play 2 hours, there are many ways to arrange the following matches so that they won't start too late.
How could anyone not put Lin Dan on TV??? Wonder why Ina is not doing very well with its economy, and the lack of badminton popularity around the world? Just kidding.;)
bananakid
06-19-2009, 09:58 AM
I thought badminton fans have a big spirit to watch the match ...
Why is more important? Badminton fans or the global economy as a whole?:p
To the selfless and generous Lin Dan, he chose the global economy.:cool:
george@chongwei
06-19-2009, 10:05 AM
yes everyone, please give a loud 'applause' to lin dan:rolleyes:
extremenanopowe
06-19-2009, 10:06 AM
that is why it is a shame now. No more those good old classic rivalry. It could have been more intense for the viewers. All thanks to the coaching committe trying to be smart to fix the match. ;)
george@chongwei
06-19-2009, 10:06 AM
You can say that if Chong Wei lose ..
chong wei is not as generous as lin dan..u must know that...
bananakid
06-19-2009, 10:07 AM
chong wei is not as generous as lin dan..u must know that...
Only generous to Hafiz. Helping him keep his job!:cool:
george@chongwei
06-19-2009, 10:12 AM
Only generous to Hafiz. Helping him keep his job!:cool:
at least he doesnt make it too obvious..;) poor acting from lin dan this year..no award for him:D
Deathsticks
06-19-2009, 10:14 AM
wow it seems pretty bad
http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/match.aspx?id=F5786AF0-6120-4871-B55C-0FF9BE3315CB&match=5#ctl00_ctl00_cphPage_cphPage_tblGame3
the overal score was 21-18 17-21 4-21
go chen jin :O
Tekkai
06-19-2009, 10:15 AM
Read post #2 for more info:D
where is post #2 ah? Sry I blur haha:D
george@chongwei
06-19-2009, 10:16 AM
where is post #2 ah? Sry I blur haha:D
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1191187&postcount=2
olympic
06-19-2009, 10:17 AM
chong wei is not as generous as lin dan..u must know that...
Ya right,we can see that yesterday...This Chong Wei very stubborn and cruel,should give face to his team-mate...:D
dassad
06-19-2009, 01:17 PM
what does it mean? They didnt play at TV court so we have no broadcast recording for this match? No one could record this?
oh no
dassad
06-19-2009, 01:25 PM
no i am trying to understand what a reason to perform such result. With 2 month to go for WCH LD goes to probably last competition, and thanks to the net gets opportunity to check himself with all big ones: CJ, LCW, GAde or Taufik and so on
21:4... 18:2..
no one can explain me a meaning of this
vorxaw
06-19-2009, 02:23 PM
no i am trying to understand what a reason to perform such result. With 2 month to go for WCH LD goes to probably last competition, and thanks to the net gets opportunity to check himself with all big ones: CJ, LCW, GAde or Taufik and so on
21:4... 18:2..
no one can explain me a meaning of this
Ill try,
his plan:
1: give CJ very commanding lead, make come back seem impossible
2: try very hard with a halfcomeback, drawing scores close
3: as if out of gas, lose in last points, looks realistic
his mistake in step 1:
forgot game ends at 21
arturosauce
06-19-2009, 03:26 PM
maybe LD wants to give CJ the opportunity to beat LCW also?
ye333
06-19-2009, 04:08 PM
It would be great if anyone can tell us what happened...
ctjcad
06-19-2009, 04:10 PM
There was never a 4:4 in the 3rd game... It's 7:1 -> 18:2 -> 19:3 -> 21:4 (Maybe LD said to CJ at 19:3 "Com'on! I am better than TH!", CJ said "Oops, sorry I forgot, here's your 4th point.").
Is there anyone who watched the match?
This is the first time (after OG) LD lost in the first tournament after training (LD lost in HK and Swiss but they are both the 2nd tournament of back-to-back events).
..only 4 pts to LinDan in the 3rd game??..don't tell me he ran out of gas??..:confused::rolleyes::p;)
None of you understand how caring Lin Dan really is.
Lin Dan realized that if he continued to play hard with Chen Jin in the 3rd set, it may take over an hour and a half to finish the match, but then there are plenty more matches following his match. So for the sake of the spectators(and the viewers online), he decided to let Chen Jin win easier, so everybody will get to go home(or go to sleep) earlier and be able to go to work with some energy tomorrow, which in terms help everyone keep their job and keep the economy growing even during this recession period.
Look at how selfish Gade and Taufik are... for their own benefits, they took over 73 minutes just to finish off their match, and there is still another match to follow. The fans stay up until late night, causing lack of sleep the next day, and possibly risking getting fired... in terms causing an increase in unemployment rate + decrease in the GDP and affects the entire global economy.
Now that you people know the truth behind this incident, those who were cursing or blaming Lin Dan should be ashamed of yourself.
We should thank Lin Dan for his generousity, everyone gives your appaluse!!!:cool:
.;)..:p..;)..
waiting for our dear cooler, arguably LinDan's biggest BC supporter, to come here and give his explanation on why LinDan lost??..:p;)
dassad
06-19-2009, 04:24 PM
If my main question is not really accepted, I try to emphasize it: why 21:4?
ok he lets CH to go, 21:19 19:21 21:19 looking good
coach wants LD will relax - 21:16 21:16 looking good
what happened there exactly?
cooler
06-19-2009, 06:04 PM
It would be great if anyone can tell us what happened...
..only 4 pts to LinDan in the 3rd game??..don't tell me he ran out of gas??..:confused::rolleyes::p;)
.;)..:p..;)..
waiting for our dear cooler, arguably LinDan's biggest BC supporter, to come here and give his explanation on why LinDan lost??..:p;)
If my main question is not really accepted, I try to emphasize it: why 21:4?
ok he lets CH to go, 21:19 19:21 21:19 looking good
coach wants LD will relax - 21:16 21:16 looking good
what happened there exactly?
my pleasure:D
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1191698#post1191698
If my main question is not really accepted, I try to emphasize it: why 21:4?
ok he lets CH to go, 21:19 19:21 21:19 looking good
coach wants LD will relax - 21:16 21:16 looking good
what happened there exactly?
Lin Dan most probably figured he couldn't win on that match and the opponent happened to be his compatriot so didn't want to "stretch". I doubt the coaching staff had anything to do with this. It may have other implication but heck, why border to dig so deep to find out something that no one will tell the true and admit? Anyway, few years later, all secret will be revealed just like Zhou Mi case :D
madbad
06-19-2009, 06:21 PM
Why is more important? Badminton fans or the global economy as a whole?:p
To the selfless and generous Lin Dan, he chose the global economy.:cool:
Then he should have not won any of his titles as he's kept up millions and millions of Chinese fans, causing the CHN GDP to slip. Now that's pretty selfish. Imagine how much more productive CHN could have been ;):cool:
bananakid
06-19-2009, 06:28 PM
I seriously believe there is a spy from this newspaper in this forum. This article originally is talking about Lin Dan losing to Chen Jin in this IO 09
在今年的全英赛半决赛,林丹和陈金会师半决赛,陈金因为伤病选择了退赛,林丹兵不血刃晋级决赛,在决赛中零 封李宗伟
source:http://sports.sohu.com/20090619/n264641496.shtml
The highlighted part means "Lin Dan whitewashed LCW in the final"
extremenanopowe
06-19-2009, 08:45 PM
Perhaps the fans booed him or taunted him. hehe... He deserves the limelight. ;) Not good for lining.
What's the excuse now? rested for too long? All these resting too short from LCW and too long nonsence is just rediculous. The more they talk, you can really see the immaturity coming out from them. The truth is out there of course.
At highest level, then should have plan their schedules in advance. This is called professional. They've played so many years and you can say errrr sorry, I can't plan ahead... it all depends on my mood or my coach/manager.... Go fly kite man! ;)
jasonmarc
06-19-2009, 09:41 PM
chong wei is not as generous as lin dan..u must know that...
No..no...LCW is just a average player,...he has to train hard and play hard in order to win some, so he cant afford to be generous to anybody....included HH, look he has to play into rubber to win over HH.............:(:o
LCW still have to work very hard in today's match against the mighty giant killer, CJ............just hope CJ is generous enough to spare LCW 1 game.....:p
conjurer
06-19-2009, 10:05 PM
give way to your team mates now, earn their gratitude. soon, u need them to give way to u leading up to the WC final so that u are more rested than your opponent.
zspeed
06-19-2009, 10:57 PM
21:4 mmmm lets see..... arr its the racket ;) or maybe he's got a wood splinter in his thumb so no choice have to finish the game immediately :D
volcom
06-19-2009, 11:43 PM
Adopting Taufiks old strategy of underperforming in non-big events :)
Ajaib
06-20-2009, 02:53 AM
"Insider" told me that Chen Jin need to be back in top 4 world rank,,,, so they don't need to meet each other at least until semifinal in the next World Championship...
that's the reason....
twobeer
06-20-2009, 03:15 AM
"Insider" told me that Chen Jin need to be back in top 4 world rank,,,, so they don't need to meet each other at least until semifinal in the next World Championship...
that's the reason....
To pass Sony on the world rankings he has to win against LCW today, and then win against Taufik in the final.. I would say both are quite unlikely to happen..
/Twobeer
george@chongwei
06-20-2009, 03:31 AM
If my main question is not really accepted, I try to emphasize it: why 21:4?
ok he lets CH to go, 21:19 19:21 21:19 looking good
coach wants LD will relax - 21:16 21:16 looking good
what happened there exactly?
lin dan was too kind and generous;)
Oldhand
06-20-2009, 10:03 AM
To pass Sony on the world rankings he has to win against LCW today, and then win against Taufik in the final.. I would say both are quite unlikely to happen..
/Twobeer
So the 'Chen Jin' experiment (if indeed it were one) failed!
george@chongwei
06-20-2009, 10:20 AM
So the 'Chen Jin' experiment (if indeed it were one) failed!
YEAH, and now lin dan will be very upset of chen jin:D
indra
06-20-2009, 12:01 PM
LD is really scared of TH...
Ha..ha...ha...CJ was whitewashed by LCW....:D
ANyway, in reality LD is just an average player. Not a big issue at all....
twobeer
06-20-2009, 01:05 PM
So the 'Chen Jin' experiment (if indeed it were one) failed!
If it indeed was an "evil" scheme to rise CJs ranking and further hammer on LCWs confidence, I think it backfired miserably :-)
/Twobeer
P.S. LYB and team China has a big problem, with having had a history of fixed matches.. If LD would have won easilly people would say the match was fixed.. If LD looses, people say sure the match must be fixed.. sigh.. D.S..
limsy
06-20-2009, 01:12 PM
P.S. LYB and team China has a big problem, with having had a history of fixed matches.. If LD would have won easilly people would say the match was fixed.. If LD looses, people say sure the match must be fixed.. sigh.. D.S..
thats is not the matter of history
if u see those matches,u will agree too,sometimes i almost fall asleep,they are not showing the true ability of themself when they face each other;)
madbad
06-20-2009, 01:17 PM
If it indeed was an "evil" scheme to rise CJs ranking and further hammer on LCWs confidence, I think it backfired miserably :-)
/Twobeer
P.S. LYB and team China has a big problem, with having had a history of fixed matches.. If LD would have won easilly people would say the match was fixed.. If LD looses, people say sure the match must be fixed.. sigh.. D.S..
Yes, they only have themselves to blame for employing that strategy. It's called guilty by association. Unfortunately it's unfair on the players who are only following the commandant's orders.
Another example of this is baseball. Because players lied about using steroids and got caught, all home runs are now viewed with suspicion.
dassad
06-20-2009, 02:08 PM
I think no one said here - may be LD didnt want to meet LCW?
For example to stay in positive feeling position after straight win in May
Or not giving a chance for LCW to train some tactics
limsy
06-20-2009, 02:10 PM
I think no one said here - may be LD didnt want to meet LCW?
For example to stay in positive feeling position after straight win in May
Or not giving a chance for LCW to train some tactics
why the invincible dont want to meet lcw?he is undefeatable;)
ctjcad
06-20-2009, 02:10 PM
I think no one said here - may be LD didnt want to meet LCW?
For example to stay in positive feeling position after straight win in May
Or not giving a chance for LCW to train some tactics
..in here:
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71196&page=6 (post #93)
and here:
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53104&page=6 (post #91)
why the invincible dont want to meet lcw?he is undefeatable;)
..simply to not give LCW any additional munition to study or gain any edge (in case LCW was to win)..The thinking is, the longer a player doesn't play another player, the better it is for each of them, esp. the favorite one. LCW, afterall, is LD's biggest challenger in the upcoming WC.
Other reasons could be, as mentioned before, to keep their current ranking as is for the upcoming WC so as not to meet each other in earlier rounds.
Thom_bad
06-20-2009, 02:23 PM
but if it is a fixed match : WHY DID THEY DO 3 GAMES ? If lyb's strategy was to let CJ to play against LCW, why did LD and CJ did 3 games ? Then , CJ was unfortunatly too tired to win LCW who's physic is very good..
limsy
06-20-2009, 02:29 PM
but if it is a fixed match : WHY DID THEY DO 3 GAMES ? If lyb's strategy was to let CJ to play against LCW, why did LD and CJ did 3 games ? Then , CJ was unfortunatly too tired to win LCW who's physic is very good..
cant u understand what mean by lindan didnt smash in that match?:eek:
ok,can u believe ld,twice wc,5(or 4) ae winner and og winner,will lost with the score 4-21?:eek:
u can?
limsy
06-20-2009, 02:31 PM
..simply to not give LCW any additional munition to study or gain any edge (in case LCW was to win)..The thinking is, the longer a player doesn't play another player, the better it is for each of them, esp. the favorite one. LCW, afterall, is LD's biggest challenger in the upcoming WC.
Other reasons could be, as mentioned before, to keep their current ranking as is for the upcoming WC so as not to meet each other in earlier rounds.
nah,chriss,lcw always won over lindan JUST because that time lindan is generous;)
see,ld let him win,not he able:rolleyes:;):p
no one will stop lindan from being the greatest legend,3 time wc this august;),lcw?just expect another WHITEWASH if he enter final lar:D:p
ctjcad
06-20-2009, 02:50 PM
but if it is a fixed match : WHY DID THEY DO 3 GAMES ? If lyb's strategy was to let CJ to play against LCW, why did LD and CJ did 3 games ? Then , CJ was unfortunatly too tired to win LCW who's physic is very good..
nah,chriss,lcw always won over lindan JUST because that time lindan is generous;)
see,ld let him win,not he able:rolleyes:;):p
no one will stop lindan from being the greatest legend,3 time wc this august;),lcw?just expect another WHITEWASH if he enter final lar:D:p
..my gut feeling says, the CHN MS squad didn't have a target or goal to win the INA Open. They're probably competing @ the INA Open just to assimilate their opponents and secure their ranking pts for the upcoming WC. It is, afterall, the last real tourney for them to participate before the WC.
Why did CJ win in 3 games instead of straight games? Because, back again, they probably have no target to win the MS title thus they could care less if he were to win in straight games or 3 games.
twobeer
06-20-2009, 06:47 PM
cant u understand what mean by lindan didnt smash in that match?:eek:
ok,can u believe ld,twice wc,5(or 4) ae winner and og winner,will lost with the score 4-21?:eek:
u can?
Well Taufik, an OG winner and wc winner, lost against LD 3-21 in the JO 2006 final decider..
So yes! It is not impossible, for a strong player to play one bad set..
/Twobeer
volcom
06-21-2009, 01:13 AM
Well Taufik, an OG winner and wc winner, lost against LD 3-21 in the JO 2006 final decider..
So yes! It is not impossible, for a strong player to play one bad set..
/Twobeer
He completely gave up that set.
jasonmarc
06-21-2009, 01:40 AM
but if it is a fixed match : WHY DID THEY DO 3 GAMES ? If lyb's strategy was to let CJ to play against LCW, why did LD and CJ did 3 games ? Then , CJ was unfortunatly too tired to win LCW who's physic is very good..
Dont tell me,..playing a rubber game with 21 - 4 can be so tired :eek: compared to TH vs PG's match.........TH still managed to won his SF match the next day ! CJ is younger than TH, u know...!:D:D
Amin Khalili
06-21-2009, 08:33 AM
My friend tell me that china team have their strategy ...
dassad
06-21-2009, 03:00 PM
well.. i dont know
im new here, less than a year in badminton but i cant understand why to mparticipate if not wanting to win. LD could not come to this competition at all, no one has to
george@chongwei
06-22-2009, 02:24 AM
whatever it is, it seems like not just Ld alone is generous in tis tournament. but the whole china squad showed some BIG GENEROUS except ZB/MJ:D after they only manage to win 1 title here..
applause to team china:p
jasonmarc
06-22-2009, 02:28 AM
whatever it is, it seems like not just Ld alone is generous in tis tournament. but the whole china squad showed some BIG GENEROUS except ZB/MJ:D after they only manage to win 1 title here..
applause to team china:p
Hahaha.....Indonesia OPen become a 'Big Charity Shgow'.........
kooixh
06-22-2009, 08:24 AM
That is in fact not true...:D LD vs CJ is not on TV court, even if they play 2 hours, there are many ways to arrange the following matches so that they won't start too late.
i agree, if lin dan want to give up the match he should just retired or quit:D
ye333
06-22-2009, 10:12 AM
No it just means LD won 2:0. I think that's different from the meaning of "whitewash" (as has been used in this forum).
I seriously believe there is a spy from this newspaper in this forum. This article originally is talking about Lin Dan losing to Chen Jin in this IO 09
在今年的全英赛半决赛,林丹和陈金会师半决赛,陈金因为伤病选择了退赛,林丹兵不血刃晋级决赛,在决赛中零 封李宗伟
source:http://sports.sohu.com/20090619/n264641496.shtml
The highlighted part means "Lin Dan whitewashed LCW in the final"
ye333
06-22-2009, 10:20 AM
Who said LD didn't smash in the match? Could you give me the source? I really doubt that LD can get that many points from CJ without any smash. LD is definitely not that much better. If it's from tournamentsoftware, than I guess it's due to some mistake. Such mistake has appeared before in 2007 French Open LD 2:0 TH.
And yes I can believe the score. If LD can lose to LCW 8:21 in an opening game in 2007, in a 2nd game in 2006, can lose to CJ 9:21 in an opening game in 2008, why not 4:21 in a 3rd game?
cant u understand what mean by lindan didnt smash in that match?:eek:
ok,can u believe ld,twice wc,5(or 4) ae winner and og winner,will lost with the score 4-21?:eek:
u can?
ctjcad
06-22-2009, 04:09 PM
..and his account of that match can be read in the "side new Djarum Open 09" thread. And his screen-name's initial starts with the letter "h" (lower case 'h').;)
- 8 and 9 points is quite a gap from 4 pts. Like i mentioned before, it's Taufik Hidayat-2006 Japan Open MS Final-like (except that one was a total meltdown by Taufik)..
ctjcad
06-22-2009, 04:32 PM
:p..the correct thread of that account is "2009 Indonesia Open: Will we get a Lee Chong Wei - Lin Dan semifinal? "...same popular BCer..:)
limsy
06-22-2009, 09:45 PM
even i busy with my asignment,i still get to read that,mr ye333,try and find that post
ye333
06-23-2009, 10:16 AM
Thanks!
Hmm. In that case it seems something weird happened. We all know that in the previous "fixed" matches (say AE08 final), CJ won 2:0. It's very hard to believe that LD can take one set from a normal form CJ without smashing. So it seems now that both LD and CJ wanted to lose, but then LD turned out to be the more determined one. :D
Btw, according to tournamentsoftware, LD has 13 "smash winner". Far less than normal of course.
:p..the correct thread of that account is "2009 Indonesia Open: Will we get a Lee Chong Wei - Lin Dan semifinal? "...same popular BCer..:)
ye333
06-23-2009, 10:17 AM
I only searched this thread... :(
even i busy with my asignment,i still get to read that,mr ye333,try and find that post
limsy
06-23-2009, 02:12 PM
i believe u will have more time than i does:)
its ok:)
ctjcad
06-23-2009, 02:17 PM
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Hmm. In that case it seems something weird happened.
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..what do you think that "something weird happened" could've been??..:confused:
Was LD fatigue? Was he injured? Did he lose interest in playing? Did he feel he is being targeted by LCW's heat-seeking missile?:confused:
Tommy Susanto
06-23-2009, 02:32 PM
LD is really scared of TH...
Ha..ha...ha...CJ was whitewashed by LCW....:D
ANyway, in reality LD is just an average player. Not a big issue at all....
He played like a sissy in Jakarta. He has never won anything here;)
ctjcad
06-23-2009, 02:37 PM
Thanks!
Hmm. In that case it seems something weird happened. We all know that in the previous "fixed" matches (say AE08 final), CJ won 2:0. It's very hard to believe that LD can take one set from a normal form CJ without smashing. So it seems now that both LD and CJ wanted to lose, but then LD turned out to be the more determined one. :D
Btw, according to tournamentsoftware, LD has 13 "smash winner". Far less than normal of course.
..i'd also want to see that CJ vs. LD QF Rd. match. Anyone seen a video of it, yet?? Just want to see how much of an effort did LD (or even CJ) exert out...:confused:
He played like a sissy in Jakarta. He has never won anything here;)
..individual competition? never. Team competition? yes (2x as a matter of fact).;)
geordie
06-23-2009, 11:41 PM
There may be a hidden rule. After you lost the first set, you are supposed to loose the match. LD not happy with this rule (well known in his sobbing interview to reporters a few years back), wanted to show everyone he is better, fought back in second set to win and in the 3rd set loose by a large margin to embarrass the coaches.
dassad
06-24-2009, 06:14 PM
why not 4:21 in a 3rd game?
why not - it's not a proof here.. and 4:21 is not a 9:21.. and first game is not a finishing game
Chibot
06-25-2009, 01:12 AM
There may be a hidden rule. After you lost the first set, you are supposed to loose the match. LD not happy with this rule (well known in his sobbing interview to reporters a few years back), wanted to show everyone he is better, fought back in second set to win and in the 3rd set loose by a large margin to embarrass the coaches.
Hmm...interesting theory :rolleyes:
dassad
06-25-2009, 04:12 AM
There may be a hidden rule. After you lost the first set, you are supposed to loose the match. LD not happy with this rule (well known in his sobbing interview to reporters a few years back), wanted to show everyone he is better, fought back in second set to win and in the 3rd set loose by a large margin to embarrass the coaches.
hm I now another rule - after you win the first and lose the second especcially if opponent shows better play in the second, it's hard mentally to fight in the third. It works also in tennis.
The very thing of this discussion is that in some next main tournament LD will easily win CJ with some 21:15 21:15 score as usual, and we again will be in troubles)
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