World Championships lineup(China)
MS:LIN Dan , CHEN Jin , BAO Chunlai

WS:LU Lan , XIE Xingfang , WANG Yihan , WANG Lin

MD:CAI Yun/FU Haifeng , HE Hanbin/SHEN Ye , GUO Zhendong/XU Chen , LIU Xiaolong/CHAI Biao
WD:DU Jing/YU Yang , TIAN Qing/PAN Pan , CHENG Shu/ZHAO Yunlei , ZHANG Yawen/ZHAO Tingting
XD:HE Hanbin/YU Yang , XU Chen/ZHAO Yunlei , XIE Zhongbo/ZHANG Yawen , ZHENG Bo/MA Jin

i thought XXF is not going to be included in the squad?
is this the final line up or what? p/s how come there's 4 pairs in the doubles category>??

i thought XXF is not going to be included in the squad?
is this the final line up or what? p/s how come there's 4 pairs in the doubles category>??
if I am not mistaken, it a a new rule by BWF that each country can send 4 pairs of each double event instead of 3 pairs :)

It is a wise decision to include XXF instead of ZL. The only thing now lack in XXF is motivation. If she gains back her motivation, she is the favourite to win the WS.

It is a wise decision to include XXF instead of ZL. The only thing now lack in XXF is motivation. If she gains back her motivation, she is the favourite to win the WS.
She has also slowed down considerably.
I daresay she no longer finds it easy to play at a fast pace.

She has also slowed down considerably.
I daresay she no longer finds it easy to play at a fast pace.

True. But slow XXF is still good if she's motivated. The problem is she doesn't have the care anymore (as seen in S'pore SS). Probably since the famous "cook soup" statement and her loss to Zhang Ning in the Olympic final.

..to see XXF's name in the list esp. after she revealed she won't be attending the upcoming WC.

XXF is not still good but still great. She can win any match if she can put everything into it.

To win the WC, XXF must stop being a slow starter. She lost the OG gold in no small part due to her mysteriously giving the first game away in the semi-final. Shockingly, she was more energetic than the youngster LL in the third game. However, the damage was already done and she could not pull off the third game in the Final.

i thought XXF is not going to be included in the squad?
is this the final line up or what? p/s how come there's 4 pairs in the doubles category>??

At Phase 2 of players/pairs confirmation, XXF is out of the entry list. But Phase 3/Final Deadline (June 22), seems CBA decided to drop Zhu Lin and confirm Xie Xingfang is in the entries.

so is this the FINAL lineup of the team?

so is this the FINAL lineup of the team?

barring any injury,this is the comfirmed list;)

How come China only have 3 men's single? I was expecting Chen Long or Gong weije to be in it. Is it still possible for them to get in through qualification?

How come China only have 3 men's single? I was expecting Chen Long or Gong weije to be in it. Is it still possible for them to get in through qualification?
only if they all in top 16 if i am correct:)

ZL is really out ever since her WC title 2007.........just like HH after AE 03........

This is the final line up of China squad ?

This is the final line up of China squad ?
yes, this is the final line up and is confirmed by Li Yongbo in an interview last wednesday :)

I wish they had given Ma Jin/Wang Xiaoli more tournament mileage, would be interesting to see them in WC and taking over from Tian Qing/Pan Pan. I've seen MJ/WXL live twice in India and Korea. In Korea especially, they were really impressive.

TQ/PP couldn't even beat semi-retired Gao Ling and Wei Yili.

Hi y'all, greetings from newbie here ,-)

Hmmm, China's team line up seems so solid 'n strong, as always
Could they whitewashed all their opponents and clean sweep all the WC titles?
Yeah the probability is r8 there, just like the recent All England
Given the fact they're superb in every discipline
(Exception maybe slightly for MD, CY/FHF back-up still inconsistent 'n inexperienced)
Hope the other contenders from INA, MAS, KOR, DEN, HK, ENG etc give a hard run for the money

Let the best player/team win (^_^)/

Post Scriptum:
Poor Zhu Lin, she couldn't be able to defend her title....
Hattrick WC title for Super Dan, anyone?

Hi y'all, greetings from newbie here ,-)

Hmmm, China's team line up seems so solid 'n strong, as always
Could they whitewashed all their opponents and clean sweep all the WC titles?
Yeah the probability is r8 there, just like the recent All England
Given the fact they're superb in every discipline
(Exception maybe slightly for MD, CY/FHF back-up still inconsistent 'n inexperienced)
Hope the other contenders from INA, MAS, KOR, DEN, HK, ENG etc give a hard run for the money

Let the best player/team win (^_^)/

Post Scriptum:
Poor Zhu Lin, she couldn't be able to defend her title....
Hattrick WC title for Super Dan, anyone?



Yes, LD is aiming to produce a hattrick for his WC MS Title..........;)

Yes, LD is aiming to produce a hattrick for his WC MS Title..........;)

3rd times a charm is very likely for LD, until proven otherwise

Maybe LCW, TH, PG, etc has another opinions?
Due to recent rankings, which giant clash can occured as early as QF stage,
I think MS*quite open and everybody's game
It's all depends on DRAWING

Hmm... maybe cute BCL &*CJ would cleared up the way for LD to set that hattrick record?
Well, let's see what kind of scenario Mr. LYB will use then

Upz,
Seems like my wild imaginations goes out of control again
Hehehe (^_^)b

I think MS*quite open and everybody's game



cant agree with u,everyone know lindan is :
sudirman cup winnerssss
thomas cup winnerssss
olympic gold medalist
5 ae titles(ops,sorry,i mean 4,one is in chen jin hand:rolleyes:)
2 wc titles
and there is a thread called:lindan the strongest ms in human history or something like that
and there is claiming of he is invincible
only lost because of generous
who can beat him?:rolleyes:
2009 wc title is surely belongs to lindan,99.9999999999% is lindan,the 0.0000000001% if the generousity inside his heart overcome his hunger of wc;)

..but does he have the U.S. Open title securely placed in his back pocket like Taufik does??..:confused:;)

As for China's team's chances of clean sweeping all the titles, i'd say, the least & likeliest they'll get are 3 titles (MS, WS & WD).

..but does he have the U.S. Open title securely placed in his back pocket like Taufik does??..:confused:;)

As for China's team's chances of clean sweeping all the titles, i'd say, the least & likeliest they'll get are 3 titles (MS, WS & WD).
I am pretty sure XD will get into their pocket as well, if Zheng Bo/Ma Jin keep on their effort in Qingdao :D

2009 wc title is surely belongs to lindan,99.9999999999% is lindan,the 0.0000000001% if the generousity inside his heart overcome his hunger of wc;)

Hehehe okay okay, my bad ,-P
Come to think of it, you're absolutely right
Let alone LD create history winning hattrick for WC to add his MAJOR titles collection under his belt
Therefore, this is WC we're babblin' about
There's no way LD shows his generousity (like as you said), just like some SS tourney few times ago
Bdw, which side are you on?
No wonder LCW always lose against LD (in major events) even b4 the matches started
U guys keep pressure him, without giving supports
(Or u're using the same -infamous reverse psychologycal effects- methods?)
If that's the case, maybe MAS should wait any longer to get WC titles
Hehe just kidding ,-D

Thus based on your research and statistic, there're still any chances for every players to shine,
no matter how slim or nearly impossible (0,000.....1 %) it was
the probablity is always there
BWF not give free ticket to LD to instantly advanced to Finale
He must fight from early rounds
He must overcome the drifts
He must be careful when picking foods etc.
Let the BEST players win
If in the end LD become eventual winners, well congratulations for his hattrick record
If LCW win, congratz to MAS for their 1st WC titles
(Aside the chances from MD*&*WD as well)
But honestly, i love me some UPSETS!
Hehehehe ,-D

Que sera, sera
Whatever will be, will be
Who knows if it's actually BCL turns to become WC?
Besides from his performance this year,
he's no longer Mr. Runner Up, no?
\(^_^)>

I am pretty sure XD will get into their pocket as well, if Zheng Bo/Ma Jin keep on their effort in Qingdao :D

Yeah if ZB/MJ could maintain their consistency, they're one of clear favourite to win XD WC title
Almost half of this years, they dominate XD sector thus showed superb performance,
creating winning streak from one to another tourney,
hold perfect H2H records (5-0) against OG champs,
Main rival maybe from their own teammates (HHB/YY, XZB/ZYW)
or KOR pair if it's Brilliant-LHJ turns who takes the lead aside than error prone-LHJ,
While title-holders seems in declining mode due to NW age, critical-points syndrome and runner-up specialist desease

2009 wc title is surely belongs to lindan,99.9999999999% is lindan,the 0.0000000001% if the generousity inside his heart overcome his hunger of wc;)

Hehehe okay okay, my bad ,-P
Come to think of it, you're absolutely right
Let alone LD create history winning hattrick for WC to add his MAJOR titles collection under his belt
Therefore, this is WC we're babblin' about
There's no way LD shows his generousity (like as you said), just like some SS tourney few times ago
Bdw, which side are you on?
No wonder LCW always lose against LD (in major events) even b4 the matches started
U guys keep pressure him, while at the same time also underestimate him
(Or u're using the same -"infamous reverse psychologycal effects"- methods?)
If that's the case, maybe MAS should wait any longer to get WC titles
Hehe just kidding ,-D

Thus based on your research and statistic, there're still any chances for every players to shine,
no matter how slim or nearly impossible (0,000.....1 %) it was
the probability is always there
BWF not give free ticket to LD to instantly advanced to Finale
He must fight from early rounds
He must overcome the drifts
He must be careful when picking foods etc.
Let the BEST players win
If in the end LD become eventual winners, well congratulations for his hattrick record
If LCW win, congratz to MAS for their 1st WC titles
(Aside the chances from MD and WD as well)
But honestly, i love me some UPSETS!
Hehehehe ,-D

Que sera, sera
Whatever will be, will be
Who knows if it's actually BCL turns to become WC?
Coz from his performance this year (which some said with bad knee),
he's no longer Mr. Runner Up, no?
\(^_^)>

I am pretty sure XD will get into their pocket as well, if Zheng Bo/Ma Jin keep on their effort in Qingdao :D
..80% sure? 100% sure? or 120% sure?
..it's a big event, unlike smaller Super Series of GP Gold type events..
My feeling is, I think their (MJ & ZB) time will come in the future, not this yr.

..80% sure? 100% sure? or 120% sure?
..it's a big event, unlike smaller Super Series of GP Gold type events..
My feeling is, I think their (MJ & ZB) time will come in the future, not this yr.
Too bad this time they can't pair Zheng Bo with Yu Yang, if not, I am 99.99% sure China will win the XD :D For Zheng Bo/Ma Jin, my condifence level would be 80%. :D

zheng bo and yu yang is really a great pairing. btw, how's yu yang & wang yihan injury?

Sorry if this has been posted / asked in other threads...i just skimmed through these couple of pages.
Why is china only selecting 3 MS players and 4 WS players?

Are the other Chinese Men not qualified to compete in WC 2009 or something?

World Championships lineup(China)
MS:LIN Dan , CHEN Jin , BAO Chunlai

WS:LU Lan , XIE Xingfang , WANG Yihan , WANG Lin

MD:CAI Yun/FU Haifeng , HE Hanbin/SHEN Ye , GUO Zhendong/XU Chen , LIU Xiaolong/CHAI Biao
WD:DU Jing/YU Yang , TIAN Qing/PAN Pan , CHENG Shu/ZHAO Yunlei , ZHANG Yawen/ZHAO Tingting
XD:HE Hanbin/YU Yang , XU Chen/ZHAO Yunlei , XIE Zhongbo/ZHANG Yawen , ZHENG Bo/MA Jin

For WS, currently, Wang Xin is obviously the best in the world. She has defeated Zhou Mi, Nehwal and Wong MC consecutively and convincingly. While all those 4, including Lu Lan, Xie XF, Wang YH, Wang L has lost to Zhou Mi and Nehwal at Singapore open and INA open.

Unfortunately, IBF doesn't allow Wang Xin to play the World championships.

For WD, the best pair in the world is obviously Wang XL/Ma Jin, they have played only 3 tournaments since their debut, and amazing enough, they won them all, 100% winning rate! No body else has even been close to this! They also have cruised easily over all S. Korea pair, INA pair, and Mas world #1 pair at Mas. While DU Jing/YU Yang has been bothered by injuries, and TIAN Qing/PAN Pan , CHENG Shu/ZHAO Yunlei , ZHANG Yawen/ZHAO Tingting have lost too many, their records are not even close to that of Wang XL/Ma Jin !

Fortunately, China can send Wang XL/Ma Jin to the WC according to IBF rules, but whether or not, depends on China team managers.


..80% sure? 100% sure? or 120% sure?
..it's a big event, unlike smaller Super Series of GP Gold type events..
My feeling is, I think their (MJ & ZB) time will come in the future, not this yr.

ZB/MJ has won so many, almost invincible after all England open. Besides ZB/MJ, CHina also has HE Hanbin/YU Yang , XU Chen/ZHAO Yunlei , XIE Zhongbo/ZHANG Yawen, who are all the best just after ZB/MJ. HH/YY has won this year's all England, XC/ZY has won German, and ZB/MJ won all the rest. I haven't seen any one else can win anything if there are Chinese in the game. IMHO, XD seems to be the easiest for China team to win.

I also think China has a bigger chance winning XD than MS. I watched their last few matches, Lee/Lee still can't cope with ZB/MJ's power. But LCW is improving. Their matches are getting closer and closer. I would say it's only 55/45.

Sorry if this has been posted / asked in other threads...i just skimmed through these couple of pages.
Why is china only selecting 3 MS players and 4 WS players?

Are the other Chinese Men not qualified to compete in WC 2009 or something?
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67428

Yes, check the BWF MS ranking to confirm.
ZB/MJ has won so many, almost invincible after all England open. Besides ZB/MJ, CHina also has HE Hanbin/YU Yang , XU Chen/ZHAO Yunlei , XIE Zhongbo/ZHANG Yawen, who are all the best just after ZB/MJ. HH/YY has won this year's all England, XC/ZY has won German, and ZB/MJ won all the rest. I haven't seen any one else can win anything if there are Chinese in the game. IMHO, XD seems to be the easiest for China team to win.
..yes, they're loaded in the XD. So, same question. How sure are you of them winning the XD title? 80% sure? 100% sure? or 120% sure?:confused:

Hehehe okay okay, my bad ,-P
Come to think of it, you're absolutely right
Let alone LD create history winning hattrick for WC to add his MAJOR titles collection under his belt
Therefore, this is WC we're babblin' about
There's no way LD shows his generousity (like as you said), just like some SS tourney few times ago
Bdw, which side are you on?
No wonder LCW always lose against LD (in major events) even b4 the matches started
U guys keep pressure him, while at the same time also underestimate him
(Or u're using the same -"infamous reverse psychologycal effects"- methods?)
If that's the case, maybe MAS should wait any longer to get WC titles
Hehe just kidding ,-D

Thus based on your research and statistic, there're still any chances for every players to shine,
no matter how slim or nearly impossible (0,000.....1 %) it was
the probability is always there
BWF not give free ticket to LD to instantly advanced to Finale
He must fight from early rounds
He must overcome the drifts
He must be careful when picking foods etc.
Let the BEST players win
If in the end LD become eventual winners, well congratulations for his hattrick record
If LCW win, congratz to MAS for their 1st WC titles
(Aside the chances from MD and WD as well)
But honestly, i love me some UPSETS!
Hehehehe ,-D

Que sera, sera
Whatever will be, will be
Who knows if it's actually BCL turns to become WC?
Coz from his performance this year (which some said with bad knee),
he's no longer Mr. Runner Up, no?
\(^_^)>

haha,i just teasing someone;) and that is not u:p
try hard to study others member opsting style,dont directly respond on the post as it might be a reverse meaning;)

haha,i just teasing someone;) and that is not u:p
try hard to study others member opsting style,dont directly respond on the post as it might be a reverse meaning;)

Haha okay okay ,-)
Well maybe that's because i'm kinda str8-forward type-o-man (Hiaaah ,-P)
Besides, you're quoting my post at the 1st place
Thus i'm just newbie here after all
Whuakakak why the heck my post become sound like an excuse? LOL
Okay okay, nevermind
Back to topic:
Are there any news on BCL "bad knee" injury?
Or ZYL "mysterious" injury?
Or YY injury?
WYH? wait, is she injured too?
Hope they all get well soon and heals at time
Contenders from other contries maybe happy if they're absent
But i guess it'll make this WC lose some sparks

Well, thats just my 2 cents anyway

For WS, currently, Wang Xin is obviously the best in the world.

For WD, the best pair in the world is obviously Wang XL/Ma Jin, they have played only 3 tournaments since their debut, and amazing enough, they won them all, 100% winning rate! No body else has even been close to this! They also have cruised easily over all S. Korea pair, INA pair, and Mas world #1 pair at Mas. While DU Jing/YU Yang has been bothered by injuries, and TIAN Qing/PAN Pan , CHENG Shu/ZHAO Yunlei , ZHANG Yawen/ZHAO Tingting have lost too many, their records are not even close to that of Wang XL/Ma Jin !

Wang Xin is the best in the world? Are you sure? She just won the Philiphines Open then you can conclude that she is the best in the world? The best pair of WD in the world still go for Yu Yang/Du Jing, although Yu Yang suffered from injury, but she is recovered slowly. I believe Zhang Yawen/Zhao Tingting are better than Wang Xiaoli/Ma Jin too. In the WD first team, I would rate from the best to the worst: Yu Yang/Du Jing, Zhang Yawen/Zhao Tingting, Ma Jin/Wang Xiaoli, Cheng Shu/Zhao Yunlei, Tian Qing/Pan Pan, Wang Siyun/Zhang Jinkang.

LYB has confirmed to send Yu Yang/Du Jing and Zhang Yawen/Zhao Tingting. But, for the other 2 tickets, he still not sure wanna give to Cheng Shu/Zhao Yunlei, Pan Pan/Tian Qing and Ma Jin/Wang Xiaoli. To be fair, a competition was held among these pairs. The competition is divided into 3 stages. In the 1st stage, Ma Jin/Wang Xiaoli placed 1st, Cheng Shu/Zhao Yunlei placed 2nd, Tian Qing/Pan Pan placed last. That means in the 1st stage, Pan Pan/Tian Qing lost to Ma Jin/Wang Xiaoli and Cheng Shu/Zhao Yunlei. Tonight, the first part of the 2nd stage had just finished. The result was Cheng Shu/Zhao Yunlei defeated Pan Pan/Tian Qing in 3 sets. So far, Pan Pan/Tian Qing lost all their matches. It looks dangerous for them. According to the rating system of the team, Pan Pan/Tian Qing must defeat Ma Jin/Wang Xiaoli in 2 sets in the coming competition, only they have some chances to participate in the WC.

..if i were LYB, why would i hold further competition?:confused:
If i'm wearing his baseball cap, I'd choose the pairings of Cheng Shu/Zhao Yunlei and Ma Jin/Wang Xiaoli.
I know it'll not satisfy the feeling of Pan Pan/Tian Qing, but their results, at least in the last 6 months to 1 yr, speak for themselves.
Further, by adding Ma Jin to the mix, at the very least, CHN will have another XD pair at their disposal.

Pan Pan/Tian Qing will have another chance in the future, as they're still young. But they have to earn & deserve that opportunity, which the other 2 pairs have achieved.

how come china still can decide which player to send? i thought the eligible players already chosen?

Now, I think PP/TQ have nothing to say, they are now utterly convinced :D

how come china still can decide which player to send? i thought the eligible players already chosen?
they have registered 5 pairs, so I think, hmm... they still can choose the four out of five since 5 pairs are already registered :rolleyes:

Pity PP/TQ.......

LOL...funny last photo from suetyan.............they actually dry their clothing included under wares in the stadium...?

Or....its for sales....? LN products...lol...!

..yes, they're loaded in the XD. So, same question. How sure are you of them winning the XD title? 80% sure? 100% sure? or 120% sure?:confused:

i think my key point here was that China has more chance to win XD than MS, WS and WD. Of course, it's impossible 120%. Since China has 4, and Korea 1, INA 1, I think China's chance may be close to 70% for XD.

China's still strong in WS and WD, but I hardly pick a single go-to person in those 2 events. Their continuous failures in Singapore and INA were not unpredictable.

Wang Xin is the best in the world? Are you sure? She just won the Philiphines Open then you can conclude that she is the best in the world? The best pair of WD in the world still go for Yu Yang/Du Jing, although Yu Yang suffered from injury, but she is recovered slowly. I believe Zhang Yawen/Zhao Tingting are better than Wang Xiaoli/Ma Jin too. In the WD first team, I would rate from the best to the worst: Yu Yang/Du Jing, Zhang Yawen/Zhao Tingting, Ma Jin/Wang Xiaoli, Cheng Shu/Zhao Yunlei, Tian Qing/Pan Pan, Wang Siyun/Zhang Jinkang.

I knew Wang Xin just won Philippines, she defeated Zhou Mi and Nehwal convincingly. Who else in the China team can do that? If Wang Xin is not qualified called the best, who else would be qualified?? The only loss was to Wang SX, but Wang Xin has managed to win back with huge edge.

Same comparison applies to Wang XL/Ma Jin too. They won 100% in all their 3 tournaments, and beat all big names. Zhang Yawen/Zhao Tingting has lost to Cheng Shu/Zhao Yunlei, while Yu Yang/Du Jing were injured, I have mentioned that already.

they have registered 5 pairs, so I think, hmm... they still can choose the four out of five since 5 pairs are already registered :rolleyes:

Theoretically, China has confirmed Pan p/Tian Q's registration. They have passed the final date for further changes. But there is a special scenario which allows Wang XL/Ma J replace PP/TQ provided that PP/TQ are sick or injured and not physically capable of playing. I don't think LYB has any problem to get physicians proof if he needs it.

I knew Wang Xin just won Philippines, she defeated Zhou Mi and Nehwal convincingly. Who else in the China team can do that? If Wang Xin is not qualified called the best, who else would be qualified?? The only loss was to Wang SX, but Wang Xin has managed to win back with huge edge.

Same comparison applies to Wang XL/Ma Jin too. They won 100% in all their 3 tournaments, and beat all big names. Zhang Yawen/Zhao Tingting has lost to Cheng Shu/Zhao Yunlei, while Yu Yang/Du Jing were injured, I have mentioned that already.

who else can't do that? Wang Yihan did it before in the month of German Open, All England, and Swiss Open? She defeated Zhou Mi in All England as well as Swiss Open. By looking at that, can we just say that she is the best player? The answer is no. She is the best player of that month only, not means that she is the overall best player. Don't forget, Wang Lin had defeated Wang Xin last Friday in the internal competition ;) Ma Jin/Wang Xiaoli has won all their matches also not means that they are the best. Did they meet Du Jing/Yu Yang before? Did they meet Zhang Yawen/Zhao Tingting before? (I mean in 2009). No right? Ma Jin/Wang Xiaoli still have to learn from the seniors ;) I would not say they are the best now, but I can't guaratee they are the best in the future ;)

who else can't do that? Wang Yihan did it before in the month of German Open, All England, and Swiss Open? She defeated Zhou Mi in All England as well as Swiss Open. By looking at that, can we just say that she is the best player? The answer is no. She is the best player of that month only, not means that she is the overall best player. Don't forget, Wang Lin had defeated Wang Xin last Friday in the internal competition ;) Ma Jin/Wang Xiaoli has won all their matches also not means that they are the best. Did they meet Du Jing/Yu Yang before? Did they meet Zhang Yawen/Zhao Tingting before? (I mean in 2009). No right? Ma Jin/Wang Xiaoli still have to learn from the seniors ;) I would not say they are the best now, but I can't guaratee they are the best in the future ;)

i thought your judgment were based on their seniority, it seems I was not wrong.

Wang YH was the best female single player after European tour, for sure. But she's not any more. The best player is not a fixed person. It always changes as competition continues.

Internal competition doesn't count, Wang Xin had won many of that before too.

Yu Yang/Du J's absence cannot be used as a way to keep their untarnished fame. Same logic to Wang YH. YY/DJ were the best before, but they has not played for long time, it's not Wang XL/MJ's fault.

Same applies to Lin Dan too. I have counted him not as hot any more.

Well, all these are personal feelings, you can have yours, I will keep mine. It's good to see our differences.

i think my key point here was that China has more chance to win XD than MS, WS and WD. Of course, it's impossible 120%. Since China has 4, and Korea 1, INA 1, I think China's chance may be close to 70% for XD.

China's still strong in WS and WD, but I hardly pick a single go-to person in those 2 events. Their continuous failures in Singapore and INA were not unpredictable.
...
..what's the winning chance for CHN's MS and WS if you have their XD winning chance @ 70%?..
What makes you think CHN has more chance to win the XD title? Do you think He Hanbin & Yu Yang are a stronger pair than Ma Jin & Zheng Bo? The former have only competed together in 2 tourneys this yr, the last 6+ months, winning only the AE title. And then you've got the Olympic champs, LYD & LHJ and another KOR pair; the former INA world champs in Widianto & Natsir; then the Danes and the 2 THA pairs in the mix; don't forget also the IND pairs. For LYD & LHJ, their only achilles heels are Ma Jin & Zheng Bo pairing.

For MS, other than LCW, who else will put a challenge to LD??..
For WD, other than the Koreans' #1 pair, which other pair will challenge them?..
For WS, other than Zhou Mi, Tine and maybe Saina, who else will challenge CHN's ladies?..

..what's the winning chance for CHN's MS and WS if you have their XD winning chance @ 70%?..
What makes you think CHN has more chance to win the XD title? Do you think He Hanbin & Yu Yang are a stronger pair than Ma Jin & Zheng Bo? The former have only competed together in 2 tourneys this yr, the last 6+ months, winning only the AE title. And then you've got the Olympic champs, LYD & LHJ and another KOR pair; the former INA world champs in Widianto & Natsir; then the Danes and the 2 THA pairs in the mix; don't forget also the IND pairs. For LYD & LHJ, their only achilles heels are Ma Jin & Zheng Bo pairing.

For MS, other than LCW, who else will put a challenge to LD??..
For WD, other than the Koreans' #1 pair, which other pair will challenge them?..
For WS, other than Zhou Mi, Tine and maybe Saina, who else will challenge CHN's ladies?..only the AE title? wonder how many players, professional or otherwise will have their arm/leg for that!!

only the AE title? wonder how many players, professional or otherwise will have their arm/leg for that!!not many, i suppose. otherwise he/she will have to win the next tournament single handed!

It's too bad for PP/TQ. I happen to like them more than CS/ZYL. Maybe this will motivate them to finally "breakthrough" though. They've been playing internationally for as long (I think longer) as CS/ZYL with good results but have never really risen to the big stage.

For WD, other than the Koreans' #1 pair, which other pair will challenge them?..

opps Chris, you have forgotten the MAS WD pair :D:p

It's too bad for PP/TQ. I happen to like them more than CS/ZYL. Maybe this will motivate them to finally "breakthrough" though. They've been playing internationally for as long (I think longer) as CS/ZYL with good results but have never really risen to the big stage.
Tian Qing won the WJC with Yu Yang before. Too bad she ain't improving as fast as the other chinese :(

..
For WD, other than the Koreans' #1 pair, which other pair will challenge them?..
For WS, other than Zhou Mi, Tine and maybe Saina, who else will challenge CHN's ladies?..

.....
For WS and WD, the only player/pairs who can beat CHN gals is likely only their own teammates
LHJ/LKW seems like in the declining mode after get OG silver
Besides, LHJ have some kind of "alergy" towards MJ
Plus she still have those split personality disorder (the one with flash of genius mixed up with bunch of error prone)
CEH/WPT sometimes brilliant but still inconsistent,
how bout CEH injury, any news kah?
Too bad VM/LN no longer pairing 2gether....
....
How bout WS?
At their good day TR, MKY, WMC could shake CHN gals domination
But now they're limping and still struggling w/ their injuries
could they perform another miracle?
Yet i also wonder how much MKY rankings will dropped, had she failed repeating her magic like last year?
AFAIK points from this WR is substitution for OG points, no?
CMIIW
,-)

LYB has confirmed to send Yu Yang/Du Jing and Zhang Yawen/Zhao Tingting. But, for the other 2 tickets, he still not sure wanna give to Cheng Shu/Zhao Yunlei, Pan Pan/Tian Qing and Ma Jin/Wang Xiaoli. To be fair, a competition was held among these pairs. The competition is divided into 3 stages. In the 1st stage, Ma Jin/Wang Xiaoli placed 1st, Cheng Shu/Zhao Yunlei placed 2nd, Tian Qing/Pan Pan placed last. That means in the 1st stage, Pan Pan/Tian Qing lost to Ma Jin/Wang Xiaoli and Cheng Shu/Zhao Yunlei. Tonight, the first part of the 2nd stage had just finished. The result was Cheng Shu/Zhao Yunlei defeated Pan Pan/Tian Qing in 3 sets. So far, Pan Pan/Tian Qing lost all their matches. It looks dangerous for them. According to the rating system of the team, Pan Pan/Tian Qing must defeat Ma Jin/Wang Xiaoli in 2 sets in the coming competition, only they have some chances to participate in the WC.

you confused me.

what you mean "3 stages"? 3 rounds? I read from other sources, saying it's only 2 rounds which means each pair need to play 4 matches totally
now Ma Jin/Wang Xiaoli 2-0; Cheng Shu/Zhao Yunlei 2-1; Tian Qing/Pan Pan 0-3;
if only 2 rounds, Tian Qing/Pan Pan is always out;
if 3 rounds, they don't need to win in 2 sets in the coming competition as you said, if 3 rounds, Tian Qing/Pan Pan still have 3 matches to play, if they win them all, they will definetely qualified. Even they just win 2 matches and lost 1 more again, they still have chances.

..if i were LYB, why would i hold further competition?:confused:
If i'm wearing his baseball cap, I'd choose the pairings of Cheng Shu/Zhao Yunlei and Ma Jin/Wang Xiaoli.
I know it'll not satisfy the feeling of Pan Pan/Tian Qing, but their results, at least in the last 6 months to 1 yr, speak for themselves.
Further, by adding Ma Jin to the mix, at the very least, CHN will have another XD pair at their disposal.

Pan Pan/Tian Qing will have another chance in the future, as they're still young. But they have to earn & deserve that opportunity, which the other 2 pairs have achieved.

Well, as a team manager, the most important thing is to know how to play politics. I saw many "IF I WERE LYB..." posts, I am sure that if those guys were LYB, they would not hold the position longer than a month.

As a team manager, you have to protect the most important stakeholders welfare and interest, and maximize them the most if possible. it's too simple and naive to think LYB can pick whoever he likes for the winning. In fact, LYB doesn't care that much. He doesn't need to do that, he doesn't want to do that, he is not even capable of doing that.

..what's the winning chance for CHN's MS and WS if you have their XD winning chance @ 70%?..
What makes you think CHN has more chance to win the XD title? Do you think He Hanbin & Yu Yang are a stronger pair than Ma Jin & Zheng Bo? The former have only competed together in 2 tourneys this yr, the last 6+ months, winning only the AE title. And then you've got the Olympic champs, LYD & LHJ and another KOR pair; the former INA world champs in Widianto & Natsir; then the Danes and the 2 THA pairs in the mix; don't forget also the IND pairs. For LYD & LHJ, their only achilles heels are Ma Jin & Zheng Bo pairing.

For MS, other than LCW, who else will put a challenge to LD??..
For WD, other than the Koreans' #1 pair, which other pair will challenge them?..
For WS, other than Zhou Mi, Tine and maybe Saina, who else will challenge CHN's ladies?..

Your questions are too simple. :D

For MS: LD just lost to Chen Jin several times. In fact, LD just played 1 tournament; what you expect? He cannot lose to 2 persons in 1 single tournament.

For WD, Mas world ranked #1 just defeated CHN and won the INA open

For WS, Zhou Mi, Tine and Saina are enough.

you confused me.
what you mean "3 stages"? 3 rounds? I read from other sources, saying it's only 2 rounds which means each pair need to play 4 matches totally
now Ma Jin/Wang Xiaoli 2-0; Cheng Shu/Zhao Yunlei 2-1; Tian Qing/Pan Pan 0-3;
if only 2 rounds, Tian Qing/Pan Pan is always out;
if 3 rounds, they don't need to win in 2 sets in the coming competition as you said, if 3 rounds, Tian Qing/Pan Pan still have 3 matches to play, if they win them all, they will definetely qualified. Even they just win 2 matches and lost 1 more again, they still have chances.
I read from the news saying that it is divided into 3 stages :confused: But I asked Cheng Shu just now, she said Zhao Yunlei and her already been chosen after yesterday match.

LOL...funny last photo from suetyan.............they actually dry their clothing included under wares in the stadium...?

Or....its for sales....? LN products...lol...!

Haha. I can't stopping laughing see this picture. How can they do that inside the gym instead of the dorm? At least we know that Chinese team is thinking green. :)

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For WS and WD, the only player/pairs who can beat CHN gals is likely only their own teammates
LHJ/LKW seems like in the declining mode after get OG silver
Besides, LHJ have some kind of "alergy" towards MJ
Plus she still have those split personality disorder (the one with flash of genius mixed up with bunch of error prone)
CEH/WPT sometimes brilliant but still inconsistent,
how bout CEH injury, any news kah?
Too bad VM/LN no longer pairing 2gether....
....
How bout WS?
At their good day TR, MKY, WMC could shake CHN gals domination
But now they're limping and still struggling w/ their injuries
could they perform another miracle?
Yet i also wonder how much MKY rankings will dropped, had she failed repeating her magic like last year?
AFAIK points from this WR is substitution for OG points, no?
CMIIW
,-)
..exactly..
only the AE title? wonder how many players, professional or otherwise will have their arm/leg for that!!
not many, i suppose. otherwise he/she will have to win the next tournament single handed!
- Yes, it's true not many player/pairs can win the AE title; maybe even will sacrifice parts of their limbs.
- I am not taking away anything from their win. I am just pointing out the fact that they've only participated in 2 tourneys this yr. And winning only their lone title, the AE title. And they are considered CHN's #1 XD pair??
opps Chris, you have forgotten the MAS WD pair :D:p
..i didn't forget them. I would rank them just below the KOR pair who've been, arguably, the only ones capable of challenging the CHN's WD. See whack_d_net's reply.:cool:
Well, as a team manager, the most important thing is to know how to play politics. I saw many "IF I WERE LYB..." posts, I am sure that if those guys were LYB, they would not hold the position longer than a month.

As a team manager, you have to protect the most important stakeholders welfare and interest, and maximize them the most if possible. it's too simple and naive to think LYB can pick whoever he likes for the winning. In fact, LYB doesn't care that much. He doesn't need to do that, he doesn't want to do that, he is not even capable of doing that.
..politics schmolitics...If you were LYB, you have 2 spots left, please tell us who will you choose out of those 3 WD pairs? Thank you.:cool:

Your questions are too simple. :D

For MS: LD just lost to Chen Jin several times. In fact, LD just played 1 tournament; what you expect? He cannot lose to 2 persons in 1 single tournament.

For WD, Mas world ranked #1 just defeated CHN and won the INA open

For WS, Zhou Mi, Tine and Saina are enough.
..if they're too simple for ya, please give us the percentage for CHN's chance to win the title in MS, WS & WD. I guess you will rate their chance, in those 3 events, lower than the XD event? Thank you.:cool:

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..politics schmolitics...If you were LYB, you have 2 spots left, please tell us who will you choose out of those 3 WD pairs? Thank you.:cool:


I said that this forum had been too many "If I were LYB..." posts, you are now now inviting me joining your game.

Anyhow, If I were LYB, I will first make my boss happy, if my boss says who should go, and who shouldn't, I will execute his policy 100%.

My boss usually asks me to take 3 titles at least in this kind of tournaments. I will keep that in mind. If I deliver poorer results than that, I will have problem to keep my job.

after that, then I have to see who's my friends and who's my foes. I will make it clear that I will always compensate friends and punish those who are against me.

I also know that my retirement plan and future welfare are controled by Liaoning province, I will do any possible things to make them happy.

If there are some conflicting interests, my careless decision could hurt myself. Then I will try to let others to decide, for example, leave it to the coaches, or let them have an internal competition, just like the women's doubles. If I decided not using Pan Pan myself, I could be in trouble myself.


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..if they're too simple for ya, please give us the percentage for CHN's chance to win the title in MS, WS & WD. I guess you will rate their chance, in those 3 events, lower than the XD event? Thank you.:cool:

MS chance for China should be 50% roughly; WS is about 60%.

WD is a different story now. First, don't know Yu Yang's recovery. Second, don't know whether Wang Xiaoli/Ma Jin are in the team. The chance is between 60% to 90% which could be higher than XD, because Wang Xiaoli/Ma Jin were not in the team in the final release. Since Wang Xiaoli/Ma Jin have never lost while other CHA did lost, their presence will increase China's chance big time.

China
MS: 50%
MD: 25%
WS: 60%
WD: 60%-90%
XD: 70%

What's your percentage when you claim China only has chance in MS, WS and WD. especially for the XD? :cool: Thanks a lot for giving me your answer as I detailed very much on my analysis.

I said that this forum had been too many "If I were LYB..." posts, you are now now inviting me joining your game.

Anyhow, If I were LYB, I will first make my boss happy, if my boss says who should go, and who shouldn't, I will execute his policy 100%.

My boss usually asks me to take 3 titles at least in this kind of tournaments. I will keep that in mind. If I deliver poorer results than that, I will have problem to keep my job.

after that, then I have to see who's my friends and who's my foes. I will make it clear that I will always compensate friends and punish those who are against me.

I also know that my retirement plan and future welfare are controled by Liaoning province, I will do any possible things to make them happy.

If there are some conflicting interests, my careless decision could hurt myself. Then I will try to let others to decide, for example, leave it to the coaches, or let them have an internal competition, just like the women's doubles. If I decided not using Pan Pan myself, I could be in trouble myself.
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MS chance for China should be 50% roughly; WS is about 60%.

WD is a different story now. First, don't know Yu Yang's recovery. Second, don't know whether Wang Xiaoli/Ma Jin are in the team. The chance is between 60% to 90% which could be higher than XD, because Wang Xiaoli/Ma Jin were not in the team in the final release. Since Wang Xiaoli/Ma Jin have never lost while other CHA did lost, their presence will increase China's chance big time.

China
MS: 50%
MD: 25%
WS: 60%
WD: 60%-90%
XD: 70%

What's your percentage when you claim China only has chance in MS, WS and WD. especially for the XD? :cool: Thanks a lot for giving me your answer as I detailed very much on my analysis.
- First part, you still haven't given us your answer. Which 2 of the 3 pairs will you choose? Thank you.:cool:

- Second part. Since you asked, here is my personal view on CHN's chances on winning the 5 events. Barring any last minute or during competition or freak injuries.

MS - 70%
WS - 70%
WD - 75%
XD - 60%
MD - 45%

For MS, as i mentioned already, other than LCW, which other player(s) can really challenge the CHN's MS players? Maybe i'll thrown in 1 or 2 India players, since they're playing host? It's true LinDan has been absent in quite a number of tourneys this yr, but i would expect a ready LinDan come the WC.

For WS, as i mentioned already, other than Tine, Zhou Mi, maybe Saina and/or Pi, which other player(s) can really challenge the CHN's WS players? Maria K.Y. is a long shot, considering her recovery period.

For WD, as i mentioned already, other than the KOR's duo of LHJ & LKW and maybe MAS #1 WD pair, which other pair(s) can challenge CHN's WD pairs, semi-injured or just recovering from injury?

For XD, yes, as i've already mentioned it. You've got the Olympic champs, LYD & LHJ and another KOR pair waiting; then you've got the former INA 2x World Champs in Widianto & Natsir, trying to win one more before they're split for good, eventhough they've been struggling; then the Danes and the 2 THA pairs in the mix; don't forget also the IND pairs, who are capable of upsetting any XD pair. Did you or anyone remember what happened to HH & YY in last yr's Olympics? Should they meet the same INA pair again? IMO, Ma Jin & Zheng Bo stand a much better chance of going deep. However, i will consider Ma Jin's first time appearance in a big stage event as another factor.

For MD, okay, i haven't mentioned anything before. CY & FHF have a chance but they're the only CHN pair who is capable of going far and possibly winning the MD title in the middle of a very competitive field.
:cool:

- First part, you still haven't given us your answer. Which 2 of the 3 pairs will you choose? Thank you.:cool:

don't understand what you want. I have already analyzed that if I were LYB, there would be tons of factors to consider to pick a team member.

Anyhow, for their capability, I will rank Wang XL/Ma Jin the best. Yu Yang/Du J, ZTT/ZYW, CS/ZYL are difficult to say. PP/TQ who just beat Korea top pair, are still not good enough.


- Second part. Since you asked, here is my personal view on CHN's chances on winning the 5 events. Barring any last minute or during competition or freak injuries.

MS - 70%
WS - 70%
WD - 75%
XD - 60%
MD - 45%

For MS, as i mentioned already, other than LCW, which other player(s) can really challenge the CHN's MS players? Maybe i'll thrown in 1 or 2 India players, since they're playing host? It's true LinDan has been absent in quite a number of tourneys this yr, but i would expect a ready LinDan come the WC.

For WS, as i mentioned already, other than Tine, Zhou Mi, maybe Saina and/or Pi, which other player(s) can really challenge the CHN's WS players? Maria K.Y. is a long shot, considering her recovery period.

For WD, as i mentioned already, other than the KOR's duo of LHJ & LKW and maybe MAS #1 WD pair, which other pair(s) can challenge CHN's WD pairs, semi-injured or just recovering from injury?

For XD, yes, as i've already mentioned it. You've got the Olympic champs, LYD & LHJ and another KOR pair waiting; then you've got the former INA 2x World Champs in Widianto & Natsir, trying to win one more before they're split for good, eventhough they've been struggling; then the Danes and the 2 THA pairs in the mix; don't forget also the IND pairs, who are capable of upsetting any XD pair. Did you or anyone remember what happened to HH & YY in last yr's Olympics? Should they meet the same INA pair again? IMO, Ma Jin & Zheng Bo stand a much better chance of going deep. However, i will consider Ma Jin's first time appearance in a big stage event as another factor.

For MD, okay, i haven't mentioned anything before. CY & FHF have a chance but they're the only CHN pair who is capable of going far and possibly winning the MD title in the middle of a very competitive field.
:cool:

thanks for your numbers. But do you know that Lin Dan lost to Chen Jin 4:21 at INA? I will rank this way: Lee CW, Chen Jin, Lin Dan, Bao CL, Taufik.

I agree with you that ZB/MJ are the strongest in XD. I disagree you said they would chock at WC. They have won so many in a row. Olympic title doesn't mean a lot.

don't understand what you want. I have already analyzed that if I were LYB, there would be tons of factors to consider to pick a team member.

Anyhow, for their capability, I will rank Wang XL/Ma Jin the best. Yu Yang/Du J, ZTT/ZYW, CS/ZYL are difficult to say. PP/TQ who just beat Korea top pair, are still not good enough.
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thanks for your numbers. But do you know that Lin Dan lost to Chen Jin 4:21 at INA? I will rank this way: Lee CW, Chen Jin, Lin Dan, Bao CL, Taufik.

I agree with you that ZB/MJ are the strongest in XD. I disagree you said they would chock at WC. They have won so many in a row. Olympic title doesn't mean a lot.
- Thank you. That's exactly what i want & that's the question i was asking because it was mentioned LYB had to choose 2 out of the 3 pairs for the remaining 2 spots. You then preceded to go on the "There are too much politics phony baloney with LYB etc." Seriously, are there really tons of factors to choose between 2 of the 3 pairs??

- Yes, i do know that fact. But eerr, do you really take Chen Jin's win over LinDan, in the recent INA Open, seriously? esp. with the last game showing a 21-4 advantage?? Do you think bananakid or cooler or even ye33 think Chen Jin really has the upper hand over LinDan now??..
Personally, I still rank LD ahead of everyone else, despite LCW's current #1 ranking. Just because he's missed several tourneys this yr justifies his ranking below LCW, CJ??:confused:

- I did not mention Ma Jin and Zheng Bo will choke. I only mentioned that considering Ma Jin's young age and the fact that it'll be her first time competing in a big event such as this, they could be factors. So, tell me, how many first time World Championships participants have actually won a title in his/her first attempt? Sure, Ma Jin & Zheng Bo have won a lot. But so did other players. Olympic title doesn't mean a lot? Tell that to Taufik or LinDan's fans..:eek:
:cool:

I agree with @ctjcad
Hence this is WC we're babbling about,
Big events binually, not just SS or GPG level tournament
i think there's a lot of factors could affect every player/pair's performance,
such as: motivation, experience + mentality during major events and critical situation,
then practice, preparation and strategy also very important
For example we can say ZB/MJ are the best XD pair at the moment
But could they maintain their performance to always on top of their game?
same as other players/pairs from all discipline
The winner is those who reach their peak performance during tourney being held
rest aside the past
Oh btw today the seeding for WC is out
i guess every camp startin to formulating strategy
But still DRAWS is the most important factor which hold every contestant's fate
,-)

Besides the aforementioned factors, there still some unpredictable variables we used to call X factor, such as:
1. Withdrawal or injuries
2. Unexpected/upset loss @ early rounds
3. Underdogs/Unseeded players with extra motivation + giant-killer potential
4. Home grounds and supporters vote (ex: IND surely gives SN adrenaline boost, or like IO where SN turn the tables. Supporter always love underdogs and hardworkers)
5. Drifts, seems like major issues in the venue?
6. Local food and stuffs, for those who not used to them, may consider it poisonous (Hehe just kidding ,-D)
7. Bad call, underhanded moves or other tricks (considered as cheat or techniques? You decide!)
8. Racket and such (Obvious: it's a clash between LN, YY, Victor etc)
9. Pretty face, some players, some supporters and even some BCers have weakness towards cute players (There's a lot of BCL or HHY die hard- fans out there, u know?) LOL ,-D
10. Sexy outfits, for example: who can stand LD's smexy arms? They're distracting and drag your focus. Even LCW can stand 'em
.......
Woots, i'm just joking around guys. Hehehe ,-D

I read from the news saying that it is divided into 3 stages :confused: But I asked Cheng Shu just now, she said Zhao Yunlei and her already been chosen after yesterday match.

seeding date for world championship has already been officially passed.
WC official records shows that ZYL/CS, DJ/YY, ZYW/ZTT, PP/TQ are all eligible and accepted, while Wang Xiaoli/Ma Jin are not eligible, and not accepted.

Suetyan, could you make another call, and release some more updated insider news, thanks :)

..considering the list of eligible players are listed in the 1st post of this thread.

Now, since suetyan reported there was a mini competition to decide the last 2 WD spots, then i can only guess these possibilities:
1. LYB has no idea that he can only send 4 WD pairs, not five.
2. LYB is planning to replace/substitue PP & TQ with WXL & MJ, even if the latter pair is not eligible to participate. Substitution can still take place if the draw hasn't been made.
3. LYB is expecting BWF to allow CHN to add another pair to its squad.
4. Nothing more than a regular training session to see where CS & ZYL and PP & TQ stand.
5. Other unknown reason..

this topic is becoming interesting.

It's clear that LYB is not the king with unlimited power. For WD, even Tian Binyi has more power in decision making, more important, LYB's boss, Cai Jianhua can veto anything if he wants to.

if just for testing, then it proves what I said, this China team is not that strong in WD, because even MJ/WXL who not qualified for WC, can sweep the WD team. :D

if just for testing, then it proves what I said, this China team is not that strong in WD, because even MJ/WXL who not qualified for WC, can sweep the WD team. :D

How does it prove anything other than CHN women are ridiculously strong amongst themselves?

seeding date for world championship has already been officially passed.
WC official records shows that ZYL/CS, DJ/YY, ZYW/ZTT, PP/TQ are all eligible and accepted, while Wang Xiaoli/Ma Jin are not eligible, and not accepted.

Suetyan, could you make another call, and release some more updated insider news, thanks :)

I think MJ/WX are not eligible because there are 4 Chinese WD pairs including PP/TQ accepting the invitation. But if LYB asks PP/TQ to withdraw, then based on the ranking, the next pair to take PP/TQ's place will be WX/MJ assuming the pairs above MJ/WX who didn't accept the invitation can't/wont' change their mind.

By the way, anyone knows why Lilyana/Vita didn't accept the invitation?

1. Pan Pan & Tian Qing do have higher ranking pts than Ma Jin & Wang Xiaoli, who are the next pair in line should any 1 of the 4 CHN WD pairs withdraw before all the draws are finalized.
Actually there is the pairing of Zhang Jiewen & Yang Wei who are ahead of Pan Pan & Tian Qing, but they've decided not to accept the invitation.
2. So, yes, why wouldn't Pan Pan & Tian Qing accept the invitation?

As for the 2nd query, it was laid out a few months ago. Starting with post #783 on the link below, and you can read the rest of the posts for more info:
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43795&page=47

By the way, anyone knows why Lilyana/Vita didn't accept the invitation?

They're no longer pairing, maybe even split for good,
their last tourney as a pair was @ Final Master SS '08 where they reach final (lost to CEH/WPT)
.....
Furthermore, VM is no longer @ PBSI (INA training camp) due to contract issues and recently played as independent player pairing with Hendra AG (XD), and somesimes Nadya Melati (WD)
while LN still @ pelatnas, focussing on XD (with Nova, after WC maybe they'll split) and LN looking for a new (younger & fresher) partner for XD and maybe WD
.....
Too bad they're no longer playing together
VM/LN (and also FL/VM) quite solid and able to shake some great chinese walls

if just for testing, then it proves what I said, this China team is not that strong in WD, because even MJ/WXL who not qualified for WC, can sweep the WD team. :D

That only proved all 5 or 6 (if counting ZJW/YW) pairs have the ability to take the champion trophy any given day. And that's not strong? Which other team even have 2 pairs can make such claims to begin with? :rolleyes:

That only proved all 5 or 6 (if counting ZJW/YW) pairs have the ability to take the champion trophy any given day. And that's not strong? Which other team even have 2 pairs can make such claims to begin with? :rolleyes:

misunderstood :confused:

what I meant was not China WD not strong.

This is what I meant: without Wang Xiaoli/Ma Jin, then the China WD is not the strongest, because I think Wang Xiaoli/Ma Jin, currently, is the strongest.

I know mostly people might think Du Jin/Yu Yang are the strongest. But I think they are very inconsistant. Not only Yu Yang's injured, even when they were health, they lost to ZTT/ZYW at all England, and they also lost to WXL/ZYL at China national championship twice in the 2 most recent years.

When I used the word "strongest", I not only compare to other countries, but more important, compare to any existing pairs inside China.

Exactly as you said, China WD are the strongest in the world, then this leaves a lot of space for LYB and other managers/coaches in China team to play politics and abuse their power. I remember many times, LYB threatened his players: "since whoever I (LYB) sent will win the champion, so do not think you(players) will be picked to play because you(the players) are better. " this obviously indicates that even China is the strongest as a team, but the players they send may not be the strongest in the world.

no insider from China team? Is Lin Dan in deep trouble now. I think he should be charged with battery. Li Yu could be permanently disabled. It could be the end of Li Yu's professional career. If Lin Dan has to go to prison, it might be his end of career too.

This WC becomes more and more like I predicted, LCW's showtime

no insider from China team? Is Lin Dan in deep trouble now. I think he should be charged with battery. Li Yu could be permanently disabled. It could be the end of Li Yu's professional career. If Lin Dan has to go to prison, it might be his end of career too.

This WC becomes more and more like I predicted, LCW's showtime
What happened?
Any news/info/link?
seems like serious case
Is LD hit his teammate, just like he did to coach Ji Xinpeng some time ago?
And i'm a lil bit confused, is it Li Yu or Lu Yi?
Anyone please confirm this.......

Ma Jin/Wang Xiaoli confirmed to replace Tian Qing/Pan Pan. Unlucky for them...

no insider from China team? Is Lin Dan in deep trouble now. I think he should be charged with battery. Li Yu could be permanently disabled. It could be the end of Li Yu's professional career. If Lin Dan has to go to prison, it might be his end of career too.

This WC becomes more and more like I predicted, LCW's showtime

What happened?
Any news/info/link?
seems like serious case
Is LD hit his teammate, just like he did to coach Ji Xinpeng some time ago?
And i'm a lil bit confused, is it Li Yu or Lu Yi?
Anyone please confirm this.......
of course this is not true, how can you believe in such rumour? Moreover, I think Li Yu is no longer in the national team, how can Lin Dan hits Li Yu? :rolleyes: I can also simply say LCW kills someone (not to offence LCW's fans). Is it true? of course it is not true, right? :rolleyes:

of course this is not true, how can you believe in such rumour? Moreover, I think Li Yu is no longer in the national team, how can Lin Dan hits Li Yu? :rolleyes: I can also simply say LCW kills someone (not to offence LCW's fans). Is it true? of course it is not true, right? :rolleyes:

Waks, just hoax?
Actually i came across some search on the net, and found nothing
so i guess that's not true as well
Thanks 4 confirm this ,-)

Ma Jin/Wang Xiaoli confirmed to replace Tian Qing/Pan Pan. Unlucky for them...

Unlucky for TQ/PP, but lucky for MJ/WXL
If i'm not wrong MJ/WXL not yet even compete in SS level tourney, no?
But they showed gr8 achievements,
winning 3 GPG (India, BAC, Malaysia) and defeat many top pairs
Congratz for them to compete in their 1st senior WC
As for TQ/PP, better luck next time
Especially for women departemens, CHN is full of talented players waiting in line to make the cut into first team

CS/ZYL, DJ/YY, ZYW/ZTT, MJ/WXL
Since WC 1997 WD always in CHN pocket, almost all of them even via All-Chinese Finals
For 2009 edition, CHN team for WD consist of 2 senior and experienced pairs + 2 junior pairs
Will they continue the glory created by the likes of GF/GJ, GL/HS, and YW/JZW?
Time will tell

CS/ZYL, DJ/YY, ZYW/ZTT, MJ/WXL
Since WC 1997 WD always in CHN pocket, almost all of them even via All-Chinese Finals
For 2009 edition, CHN team for WD consist of 2 senior and experienced pairs + 2 junior pairs
Will they continue the glory created by the likes of GF/GJ, GL/HS, and YW/JZW?
Time will tell
even the Asian Junior Championship this year, the finalists of WD are both from China :D Wonder why their WDs are so strong until today :rolleyes:

Unlucky for TQ/PP, but lucky for MJ/WXL
If i'm not wrong MJ/WXL not yet even compete in SS level tourney, no?
But they showed gr8 achievements,
winning 3 GPG (India, BAC, Malaysia) and defeat many top pairs
Congratz for them to compete in their 1st senior WC
As for TQ/PP, better luck next time
Especially for women departemens, CHN is full of talented players waiting in line to make the cut into first team

MJ/WXL won the place by winning a mini-league selection competition (win 4 out of 4 matches) with TQ/PP & CS/ZYL in their team training camp recent week... so it's a fair competition for better form... it's decided by a badminton way than others..

Ma Jin/Wang Xiaoli confirmed to replace Tian Qing/Pan Pan. Unlucky for them...
What a good news for me.......

Ma Jin/Wang Xiaoli confirmed to replace Tian Qing/Pan Pan. Unlucky for them...
..so, it's true after all. All of those mini competition was nothing more than for LYB to pick between Ma Jin & Wang XL vs. Pan Pan & Tian Qing. And, IMO, it was definitely the right choice to pick Ma Jin & Wang XL. Btw, any news source to confirm this??

Now, if i may know, do Ma Jin & Wang XL need to accept the invitation to be eligible as a replacement pair? As far as i know, they didn't say "Yes" or "No" to the invitation.
of course this is not true, how can you believe in such rumour? Moreover, I think Li Yu is no longer in the national team, how can Lin Dan hits Li Yu? :rolleyes: I can also simply say LCW kills someone (not to offence LCW's fans). Is it true? of course it is not true, right? :rolleyes:
..yeah, what is UP with such innuendos being passed here??..where did someone pull such news??..:confused:
...
If i'm not wrong MJ/WXL not yet even compete in SS level tourney, no?
...
...yes and no. Ma Jin & WangXL haven't competed in the SS this yr. However, they did compete in their lone SS event, last yr, in the China Open SS (in November 2008), where they only went as far as the 1/16 Rd.:cool:

..so, it's true after all. All of those mini competition was nothing more than for LYB to pick between Ma Jin & Wang XL vs. Pan Pan & Tian Qing. And, IMO, it was definitely the right choice to pick Ma Jin & Wang XL. Btw, any news source to confirm this??

Now, if i may know, do Ma Jin & Wang XL need to accept the invitation to be eligible as a replacement pair? As far as i know, they didn't say "Yes" or "No" to the invitation.

..yeah, what is UP with such innuendos being passed here??..where did someone pull such news??..:confused:

...yes and no. Ma Jin & WangXL haven't competed in the SS this yr. However, they did compete in their lone SS event, last yr, in the China Open SS (in November 2008), where they only went as far as the 1/16 Rd.:cool:

confirmed
news source(official media): http://news.sports.cn/others/badminton/news/2009-07-18/1840819.html

..for sharing the news source..:cool:

zzz. why! T_T. i wanted PP/TQ to play T_T

zzz. why! T_T. i wanted PP/TQ to play T_T
so you are a fan of our cuties Pan Pan/Tian Qing? :D

They have been compete several times WC with various partners
ZTT and (especially) ZYW already got medal
(ZYW even got some from both XD and WD event),
but somehow GOLD always elude them
I guess this time WC is their last attemp to clinch the gold,
due to their age and national team regeneration (or rejuvenation? LOL)
,-P
.....
But that's not the simple assignment
In WD: they have to compete their strong x3 compatriots (Plus KOR and MAS senior pair etc) along the way
While in XD event, XZB/ZYW combo seems off-form lately, or is it bcoz ZB/MJ recently on fire?
.....
ZTT kinda like utility player, eh?
She paired w/ everyone,
This time she's focussing only on WD event (CX cheating w/ ZYL, hehe kiddin ,-D)
Maybe it can save her some energy,
so that she can smash HARDER, more and more
.....
Well, that's just my opinion

so you are a fan of our cuties Pan Pan/Tian Qing? :D
Of course i am! i was waiting to see them play. I hope they'll play, but i just feel so bad.:p

even the Asian Junior Championship this year, the finalists of WD are both from China :D Wonder why their WDs are so strong until today :rolleyes:

Perhaps its got something to do with involvement of the great 'Immortal Tiger' in women's doubles in China over the past couple of years ?

ZTT kinda like utility player, eh?
She paired w/ everyone,
This time she's focussing only on WD event (CX cheating w/ ZYL, hehe kiddin ,-D)
Maybe it can save her some energy,
so that she can smash HARDER, more and more
.....
Well, that's just my opinion

Haha. You're very funny. :D:D
Sometimes I feel bad for her if her partner look mad becoz she keep doing errors...:o:o

Suetyan,

How is Yu Yang's injury problem? OK already?

Suetyan,

How is Yu Yang's injury problem? OK already?
Yup, 90% recovery. Shouldn't be a problem to do well in WC :D

Yup, 90% recovery. Shouldn't be a problem to do well in WC :D
Wish her all the best...

Haha. You're very funny. :D:D
Sometimes I feel bad for her if her partner look mad becoz she keep doing errors...:o:o

I agree with you ,-)
ZTT quite an error prone when she was under pressure
Besides, her defence not as solid as her attacking smash, given the fact that she's kinda offensive player.
No wonder her partner kinda look mad, when she make one after another errors
.....
But with her experience, solid partnership w/ ZYW, and easy draw till SF, maybe this time ZYW/ZTT finally nails the WC gold?
Time will tell ,-P

Yup, 90% recovery. Shouldn't be a problem to do well in WC :D

Good news :cool:

I agree with you ,-)
ZTT quite an error prone when she was under pressure
Besides, her defence not as solid as her attacking smash, given the fact that she's kinda offensive player.
No wonder her partner kinda look mad, when she make one after another errors
.....
But with her experience, solid partnership w/ ZYW, and easy draw till SF, maybe this time ZYW/ZTT finally nails the WC gold?
Time will tell ,-P
But I can see her improvement after she paired with ZYW. At least ZYW does not get mad with her, this is a good sign for this pair to shine, although a bit late :D

But I can see her improvement after she paired with ZYW. At least ZYW does not get mad with her, this is a good sign for this pair to shine, although a bit late :D

That's because ZYW is younger, how to scold an elder "sister"? :D If ZTT had partners her same age or older, fires would have started ....... :p

That's because ZYW is younger, how to scold an elder "sister"? :D If ZTT had partners her same age or older, fires would have started ....... :p
so the same applies to Zheng Bo? :p:D

Suetyan,

How is Yu Yang's injury problem? OK already?
she's tough..ya know;)

of course this is not true, how can you believe in such rumour? Moreover, I think Li Yu is no longer in the national team, how can Lin Dan hits Li Yu? :rolleyes: I can also simply say LCW kills someone (not to offence LCW's fans). Is it true? of course it is not true, right? :rolleyes:
you have to know the word kills and hits are have different meanings:rolleyes:

you have to know the word kills and hits are have different meanings:rolleyes:
It doesn't matter. No need to get so microscopic geez

so the same applies to Zheng Bo? :p:D

I remember some time ago, Gao Ling (and even Huang Sui) scold Zheng Bo,
the latter then scold Ma Jin @ this year's AE
Its obvious that those seniors scold juniors
But sometimes, maybe we need getting scolded, indeed, to stay focused
LOL ,-D
.....
Okay, back to topics........

That's because ZYW is younger, how to scold an elder "sister"? :D If ZTT had partners her same age or older, fires would have started ....... :p
i thought that ZYW and ZTT from the same generation???? they were paired together when juniors....

i thought that ZYW and ZTT from the same generation???? they were paired together when juniors....
they have been paired together doesn't mean that they are same age :D Recall back to 2001 or 2002, they were paired before. :rolleyes:

I remember some time ago, Gao Ling (and even Huang Sui) scold Zheng Bo,
the latter then scold Ma Jin @ this year's AE
Its obvious that those seniors scold juniors
But sometimes, maybe we need getting scolded, indeed, to stay focused
LOL ,-D
.....
Okay, back to topics........
When Zheng Bo retires that time, hope Ma Jin will not scold his new XD partner :D:p

It doesn't matter. No need to get so microscopic geez
I'm just pointing out the facts. that's it.

When Zheng Bo retires that time, hope Ma Jin will not scold his new XD partner :D:p

MJ seems like a nice person :cool:
In the future, maybe she won't scold HER new partner,
She just squeal at him, instead
Haha kidding ,-D

wow, based on BCer's current choice China is going to bag 4 golds and a MD silver, that's better than the 2008 Olympic results... lets see if China falls into BCer's jinx this time:D

wow, based on BCer's current choice China is going to bag 4 golds and a MD silver, that's better than the 2008 Olympic results... lets see if China falls into BCer's jinx this time:D

thanks for your insight, but there are several concepts misused.;)

first, the pencentage of votes doesn't mean the winning percentage of that player

2nd, there should be no jinx, but maths in the survey.:cool:

even China has 60% winning in every event, which means they are the best in each, but maths tells us the possibility to win all 5 event is:

60% X 60% X 60% X 60% X 60% = 7%

They can only winn all by 7% chance which basically unlikely.

Reverse thinking, there is no jinx. Even BCers voted them winning by 60%, it is still impossible to sweep. Losing 1 or 2, proves BCers' survey results are correct.

On the other hand, if China sweep all 5 titles, like in the all england, then giving 60% in each event to them would be wrong.

That's also the way to see the difference when you predict someone winning chance is 51% or 99%. People don't know maths would think 51% winning and 99% winning are the same, but actually they are not.

Lin Dan bt Chen Jin 2-0

Wang Yihan bt Xie Xingfang 2-0

Du Jing/Yu Yang bt Ma Jin/Wang Xiaoli 2-0

Xie Zhongbo/Zhang Yawen bt Zheng Bo/Ma Jin 2-1

Guo Zhengdong/Xu Chen bt Cai Yun/Fu Haifeng 2-1

Lin Dan bt Chen Jin 2-0

Wang Yihan bt Xie Xingfang 2-0

Du Jing/Yu Yang bt Ma Jin/Wang Xiaoli 2-0

Xie Zhongbo/Zhang Yawen bt Zheng Bo/Ma Jin 2-1

Guo Zhengdong/Xu Chen bt Cai Yun/Fu Haifeng 2-1
Thanks Suetyan...
GUO / XIE impressed me....
Lin Dan is back in his form
Yu Yang in good form...
Wang Yihan on Fire
Xie / Zhang in Good mood...

GREAT team... :):cool::cool:

Lin Dan bt Chen Jin 2-0

Wang Yihan bt Xie Xingfang 2-0

Du Jing/Yu Yang bt Ma Jin/Wang Xiaoli 2-0

Xie Zhongbo/Zhang Yawen bt Zheng Bo/Ma Jin 2-1

Guo Zhengdong/Xu Chen bt Cai Yun/Fu Haifeng 2-1
hehe. Guo/Xu shock me xD . Xie/Zhang back to get another WC title?=D

...
first, the pencentage of votes doesn't mean the winning percentage of that player

2nd, there should be no jinx, but maths in the survey.:cool:
...
..speaking of jinx, have you read post #45, in the link below?
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1214456#post1214456
hehe. Guo/Xu shock me xD . Xie/Zhang back to get another WC title?=D
..have XZB & ZYW ever won the World Championships XD title before??..:confused:

..speaking of jinx, have you read post #45, in the link below?
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1214456#post1214456

..have XZB & ZYW ever won the World Championships XD title before??..:confused:
yes if my memory doesn't fail me. confirm with suetyan. sure know one. i think its 2005? i not sure just ask suetyan =D

yes if my memory doesn't fail me. confirm with suetyan. sure know one. i think its 2005? i not sure just ask suetyan =D
Nope, they never won a gold medal in WC. They only won a silver medal in 2005 :)

you have to know the word kills and hits are have different meanings:rolleyes:
Someone mad here~~~~~~

I'm just pointing out the facts. that's it.
:):)Hi george by the way do u know if there is any reliable site that is showing the wc 2009 even if it is not free.Cctv5 very unreliable and ubstable.Pls do let us know thank u:):):):)

Nope, they never won a gold medal in WC. They only won a silver medal in 2005 :)

That was the time when Zhang Yawen got service faulted so many times, she almost cried ..... :p

Nope, they never won a gold medal in WC. They only won a silver medal in 2005 :)

Yup, Xie/Zhang lost to Nova/Liliyana at Anaheim WC. Last time CHN pair won XD title was Zhang Jun/Gao Ling in 2001 Seville WC. I guess CHN has bright prospect to grab XD title in this edition.

man then they have high chances of getting the XD WC this year. have Xie/Zhang and Zheng/Ma

opps not to forget bronze medalist yy/hhb

:):)Hi george by the way do u know if there is any reliable site that is showing the wc 2009 even if it is not free.Cctv5 very unreliable and ubstable.Pls do let us know thank u:):):):)
hey man, the one i know is just astro who are only available in mas though.
actually i was hoping they will start broadcast it from the 1st day onwards, but unfortunately they will only start broadcast from the QF onwards.
anyway, for more info. refer to another broadcasting thread

China team departed for Hyderabad at around 5.20 this morning.

great photos suetyan goodluck to the china team!!

man that bus looks huge lol how many seats??

Looks like Lin Ning is their official luggage supplier too. Nice suitcases :)

Someone please tell me that the boxes in pics 21 and 22 are not instant noodles or some kind of food. Lesson learnt from LCW's episode ?? :D [ Forgive me but I cant read chinese..hehe]..
BTW great pics from suetyan...tq.

MAS team leaving on Friday. Can someone also load some pics like these?? Limsy?

China team departed for Hyderabad at around 5.20 this morning.
Someone please tell me that the boxes in pics 21 and 22 are not instant noodles or some kind of food.
...
...my mind thought the same also. Do those boxes contain instant noodles, or other dried foods, just in case??..Are they bringing their own chefs??..

Looking at the pics, looks like most of the players looked groggy; i can understand having to pack up and leave in the wee hours of the morning..This is like the first time in a while that i've seen their "not-so-happy" faces...The only "fresh" and "awake" player/personnel seem to be Chen Jin (with a new hairdo) and the coaches..;)

What's up with XXF having to carry her own suitcase?? Where's LinDan to help her carry it??..:confused:

lol..i almost can't recognise that she's zhao ting ting..:D

http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=58347&stc=1&d=1249532877

MAS team leaving on Friday. Can someone also load some pics like these?? Limsy?
loo, i doubt pics like these will be taken..ya know..our malaysian media..know how to bash here and there, and comment here and there;)

but i just think that some small tiny pics will only be posted together with a badminton news article in the paper..just wait.:D:D

What's up with XXF having to carry her own suitcase?? Where's LinDan to help her carry it??..:confused:

Actually that's XXF carry LD's suitcase. Work, woman! ;) :D

..Zhao Yun Lei looks like she's about ready to fall flat on her face & take another nap...

Actually that's XXF carry LD's suitcase. Work, woman! ;) :D

Really,...LD just relaxing sitting on the bus :p...while XXF do all the works :eek:.....I m thinking of a song call 'Superwoman'...:D:D

http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=58345&stc=1&d=1249532877

Is this Lu Lan...........???

Really,...LD just relaxing sitting on the bus :p...while XXF do all the works :eek:.....I m thinking of a song call 'Superwoman'...:D:D

The pictures don't lie. LD is very relaxed, texting (?) and waving to his fans. Doesn't look tired from hauling heavy luggage :p;)

Today i see Newspaper, it written China WS 4 of them will go to the semi final & final... is that possible?

You can have a look at the draw first.;)
Barring any upset,

Zhou Mi have to meet XXF in the quarter final( SHould be very interesting match to see).
Wang Yi Han to meet PHY or MKY in the quarter final and win it.
Lu Lan have to meet Wang Chen in the 3rd round and if LL won, she will be playing against YPY OR Tine rasmussen of denmark in the quarter final and win it.
and Wang Lin have to face home favourite saina nehwal in the quarter final and win it.

They will have to overcome all their opponent listed above before they can proceed to the semi final to make it an all chinese semi final..:D:D

I can see the chinese team is surely in a high spirit ahead of the WC 2009, trying to make a clean sweep there in Hyderabad. Can they make it?;):confused::rolleyes:

i doubt it;)

I can see the chinese team is surely in a high spirit ahead of the WC 2009, trying to make a clean sweep there in Hyderabad. Can they make it?;):confused::rolleyes:

i doubt it;)

Yes, they managed to do it in AE 09 using YY gear......:p

But now they will try with LN's products..........:o....:cool:

Today i see Newspaper, it written China WS 4 of them will go to the semi final & final... is that possible?

LOL........yes, anything is possible.
Is it possible for CEH/WPT to win......yes, possible
Is it possible for KKK/TBH to win........yes, possible
Is it possible for LCW to win the WC? ..............hehe, trying to stir up the hornets' nest in this thread...sorry-ar..:D

Someone please tell me that the boxes in pics 21 and 22 are not instant noodles or some kind of food. Lesson learnt from LCW's episode ?? :D [ Forgive me but I cant read chinese..hehe]..
BTW great pics from suetyan...tq.

MAS team leaving on Friday. Can someone also load some pics like these?? Limsy?

...my mind thought the same also. Do those boxes contain instant noodles, or other dried foods, just in case??..Are they bringing their own chefs??..

Looking at the pics, looks like most of the players looked groggy; i can understand having to pack up and leave in the wee hours of the morning..This is like the first time in a while that i've seen their "not-so-happy" faces...The only "fresh" and "awake" player/personnel seem to be Chen Jin (with a new hairdo) and the coaches..;)

What's up with XXF having to carry her own suitcase?? Where's LinDan to help her carry it??..:confused:
yes, the boxes contain instant noodles :D

yes, the boxes contain instant noodles :D

:eek::eek::eek:.............those boxes can feed an army...:D

I wouldn't mind some meegoreng right this moment.

http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=58345&stc=1&d=1249532877

Is this Lu Lan...........???

Looks like overweight version of LL:D

MAS team leaving on Friday. Can someone also load some pics like these?? Limsy?

i am just a student
u expect me to appear everywhere and take photo???:p

i am just a student
u expect me to appear everywhere and take photo???:p

And your point is... ;):p

China team departed for Hyderabad at around 5.20 this morning.look at all those boxes, must be doll noodles and bottled water. Don't wanna risk eating take out foods in india:D

And your point is... ;):p

my point is no photo from me;)

my point is no photo from me;)

:D.. sorry-ar, I thot u were the unoficial photographer for MAS team...hehe :o. U did such a good job at the mini olympics :D

Hopefully someone can load some pics..:)...I oso wanna see if MAS team can top the CHN team in terms of who brings the most instant noodles/mee goreng , haha :D

look at all those boxes, must be doll noodles and bottled water. Don't wanna risk eating take out foods in india:D

yes......and LCW was the guinea pig :mad:

Can't say instant noodles is exactly the food of champions. I thought athletes these days were very particular with the quality of their diet.

Looks like overweight version of LL:D

You really can sence what i m going to say....! :D:D:D

yes......and LCW was the guinea pig :mad:

I tot every body was saying LCW just giving excuses when lost to CL in India Open.....Now Chn team are cautious about it.....:mad:

Can't say instant noodles is exactly the food of champions. I thought athletes these days were very particular with the quality of their diet.

precaution i guess. you need to be cautious when eating food in a totally different country. didn't somebody get sick at the India Open a few months ago? i guess they just turned to something reliable, and in this case it's instant noodles.
BTW, usain bolt said before his 100m race at the olympics, he was eating mcnuggets hahahha :eek::crying::confused::cool::D .....so expect to see team china own everyone without trying?? :p:eek::confused::D:rolleyes: