New Badminton club in Hong Kong

[Jazz]

Hello, all the badminton fans,

I'm Jazz, a new guy here and also a club manager of a new badminton club in Hong Kong called "JAM"

We are welcome all the good to advance badminton players to join us, on every SAT at Tsuen Wan area.

If you are from overseas, just drop by in Hong Kong for business and are looking for a group of good players to play with you for fun, please feel free to contact me.

And you guys can also access our newsgroup to check out the schedule update from there. PLease click the link below:

news://news.3home.net/3sport.club.badminton.jam

Let's come and "JAM".

[phildlc]

This is exactly what I am looking for.
What is the exact adress of the club and time.
Thanks

[Jazz]

Hi Phil,

Are you really from France? Cool! I have friends living in France as well.

Anyway, thanks for feeling interest to joining our club. Here is our most updated schedule:

19/10/02------------- 01:00pm-04:00pm (Wai Tsuen Indoor, TsuenWan) 1+1+1 *Coming up this week*

26/10/02------------- 02:00pm-05:00pm (Yeung Oak Road) 1+2+2
02/11/02 -------------03:00pm-05:00pm (Wai Tsuen Indoor, TsuenWan) 2+3

09/11/02 ---------02:00pm-05:00pm (Wai Tsuen Indoor, TsuenWan) 1+2+2 *NEW*

We are looking forward to see you! For more info, you can contact me by writing e-mail to:

jazzlau3@netvigator.com

[Jazz]

I notice that, there are lots of people viewing my topic, therefore I decided to tell everyone a bit more about our club. It's a bit long, I hope you guys don't mind hehe.

[Jazz]

"JAM", play on every SAT afternoon, normally we book 3 hrs courts, for the
first hr we'll have 1 court, and for the next two hours we'll have 2 courts,
we simplify that as 1+2+2

Most of our members are mid level players (but we wouldn't called
ourself a really outstanding players though, especially when compare with
other famous club ) , our age is between 20-50.

Our aim is to gather some good players to play and get some sweat, so I will
classicify that we are not the aggressive type of club. We enjoy badminton game more than killing each other hehe.

We DO NOT have a fixed charge and members fees, for our members, they pay
for what the club spend, such as Shuttlecock and court booking.

We recently launched a new account system to classify loyalty members and
normal members, we call that "Prepaid system", a very similar concept as
OCTOPUS card in Hong Kong. Our members will pay a sum of money in advance (i.e. $160), ¡Aand deduct after every game until the credit used up, then pay again.

For normal members (not joining the Prepaid system), they have to pay cash
everytime after game, and also the charge will be slightly different compare
with Prepaid system members.

For example, on 12th OCT, club charged $43, Prepaid system member's account
will deduct $43 in exact, then for normal members, they will be charge for
$45.

Everytime we finish game, I will upload the club account's details to our
MSN group web for my members to check out their credit balance.

[Pecheur]

You charged $45 HK for three hours play? For which of one of the three hours you only had 1 court?

Is it just me or is that a lot? Here in Oz, the usual rate is about $6 for a casual member which gets you into a place with several courts (at least three, usually four), and feather shuttles. That works out to be about $26 HK.

$43 HK dollars for regulars is a lot of money too. Given that membership of a club that plays 3-4 times a week shouldn't set you back more than about $300 AUSD (I pay about $200) in total for the year. Since I often used to play three times a week, that'd average about $2 AUSD a session, whereis in HK it'd cost me $10 AUSD?! Ack maybe I couldn't move to HK because I couldn't afford to play badminton :P

PS I don't play nearly that much these days, but even at once a week it's still only 60% the cost per session.


Originally posted by Jazz


For example, on 12th OCT, club charged $43, Prepaid system member's account
will deduct $43 in exact, then for normal members, they will be charge for
$45.

[Jazz]

Hi Pecheur, I hope that you are not trying to challenge my calculation here.

In Hong Kong, for 1 hr badminton count @ Indoor air-con sports center, which running by the gov, it cost $51 (off peak) and $66 (on Peak)

Our club book 3hrs every SAT, but the arrangement are this,

1st 14:00-15:00 => 1court
2nd 15:00-16:00 => 2courts
3rd 16:00-17:00 => 2courts

that's why I call that 1+2+2, therefore in total I have to book 5hrs court, cause we play on SAT, 14:00-17:00 (on peak hrs), so $66*5 = $330 for court booking

For shuttlecock, we use "Special Areoplane" (White package) some Asia players should have seen this. It cost me $85 for a doz, so $7 each. Normally we use at least 18 birds everytime.

Now, understand how expensive to play badminton in HK now? hehe

[Pecheur]

I just think it's a lot of money, eg on Saturday I play in a place from your calc would be:

1300-1400 => 4 courts
1400-1600 => 8 courts
1600-1700 => 4 courts

ie 4+8+8+4, therefore 24 hrs of court. Admittedly our hourly court charge is much lower.


Originally posted by Jazz
Hi Pecheur, I hope that you are not trying to challenge my calculation here.

In Hong Kong, for 1 hr badminton count @ Indoor air-con sports center, which running by the gov, it cost $51 (off peak) and $66 (on Peak)

Our club book 3hrs every SAT, but the arrangement are this,

1st 14:00-15:00 => 1court
2nd 15:00-16:00 => 2courts
3rd 16:00-17:00 => 2courts

that's why I call that 1+2+2, therefore in total I have to book 5hrs court, cause we play on SAT, 14:00-17:00 (on peak hrs), so $66*5 = $330 for court booking

[Jazz]

oh yeah, seems the badminton court @ where you live are very cheap, but what's the courts like? And how about other facility? In Hong Kong, our sports center are really nice compare with those sports center I went in the UK.

Hey, how about we try to take some pic for the sports center we used to go, then post it to this group? SO other all the people from all other countries can take a look. It could be fun. :)

[cooler]

Pecheur, you have to appreciate that HK real estate is a lot more than in Austrailia and shuttles are included in the price of admission. From the photo above, it looks like a clean, well lighted gym with AC.

[Cheung]

Actually, the price quoted by Jazz is quite OK for HK.

That venue is an airconditioned hall. Almost all Government facilities are the same price with airconditioning.

In Oz, I don't think halls have the additional cost of airconditioning. At least I didn't notice it in the couple of places I've played at.

Heck, playing in Oz is cheap. I guess racquets are more expensive but if your playing costs are that low, it's not so bad.

BTW, I hate playing in that hall. I find it really difficult as some courts have a noticable draught. Sometimes the floor is a bit slippery as well but that's the price one pays for a court that is not dedicated to badminton.

[kwun]

i believe they supply the shuttle as well. at least most of the clubs i have been to in HK do that. so you should factor the cost of that into account.

[Pecheur]

I might not have explained myself clearly, my costs INCLUDE feather shuttles :)

I do like the idea of posting photos of where we play though.


Originally posted by kwun
i believe they supply the shuttle as well. at least most of the clubs i have been to in HK do that. so you should factor the cost of that into account.

[Jazz]

hehe, doesn't matter at all. ^_^

May be you will understand why so expensive when you see the pic of the sports center in HK.

Yeah, I will take some picture on this SAT for the center, I hope other people will do that too! hehe

[TOmike]

maybe its moderately priced - expensive because Hong Kong is a small little island where real estate is quite expensive.. i mean in Australia.. you got lots of land for development... Hong Kong is like... oh.. old house.. blow it up, and make a new building.. its just a lot of recycling

[Jazz]

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[Qidong]

When I went back to Hong Kong last time in 1993, our friends and I reserved the whole gym in Cheung Sha Wan with 4 courts for HK$25 /per hour. Price went up 10 times in 10 years. ($55 x 4 = $220).

[Becker]

HK$25 per hour per court (no air-condition) in1993
HK$5? per hour per court (with air-condition) in2002

[Qidong]

The gym we went to was maintained by the government. It had 4 courts (no-air) - HK$25 / hours - HK$6.25 / court / hour. Of course the courts shown this thread look much better.

[satellite]

In sydney, I played three at different places.
Two are organised by different groups and cost around $ 36 hk / hour.

One is organised by a university club. costs $30 hk dollars /hour for casual members. (sponsored by university student union).

3 hours each session. shuttles supplied.


Jazz, if you don't mind, I 'll contact you by email when I drop by HK in July 2003.

[Jazz]

No problem, you can send me PM here, or send me e-mail direct to jazzlau3@netvigator.com

JAM club look forward to see you later ^_^

[Cheung]

Jazz,

Curious to know how many visitors you have had to your club who came by just because of badmintonforum.

Is it many?

[Jazz]

Hum, three so far.

[edwin]

Originally posted by Cheung
Jazz,

Curious to know how many visitors you have had to your club who came by just because of badmintonforum.

Is it many?
I'm one of the visitors, and I really had a great time meeting up and playing with other members of Jazz's club :).

[redkingjoe]

Dear Jazz,

It's really very difficult to find places to play Badminton in HK. It's more difficult to find different players too.

If you want to promote your club, it might help to call 2504-8318 to discuss with the HK Badminton Association whether you or how to list your web/contact in their web site so more people from your district can contact you.

Best regards

[Jazz]

Hey man, thanks for your suggestion. Running a club is not easy at all, especially for a club like JAM club which I don't prefer to make any profits. But lucky, and thanks for all my members support, JAM club is running smoothly for 2 yrs already :eek:

I never thought to have my club getting any bigger, cause I can't simply handle it, also as you should know the court booking in HK are extremly difficult, therefore I cannot promise more than 14 members to play everytime.

SO far, I have aorund 30 active members, throught out this 2 yrs, there were 80+ in and out. I'm satisfy for that.

How about you? Are you running any club in Hong Kong? Let's share a bit

Jazz :cool:




Dear Jazz,

It's really very difficult to find places to play Badminton in HK. It's more difficult to find different players too.

If you want to promote your club, it might help to call 2504-8318 to discuss with the HK Badminton Association whether you or how to list your web/contact in their web site so more people from your district can contact you.

Best regards

[Jazz]

And anyone who interest to play with Jamclub, you guys or gals can e-mail directly to:

jamclub@netvigator.com

If you can read Chinese, apartfrom newsgroup, you can also visit our web site:

http://hk.geocities.com/jamclub2003/home.html

[kwun]

Jazz, just went to your club's site and took a look. i very much admire your spirit of organizing a club for member to purely enjoy a good game of badminton, seeking no profit and even balancing the book with your own pocket money.

that is the spirit of badminton! i wish your club continued success.

[Jazz]

Jazz, just went to your club's site and took a look. i very much admire your spirit of organizing a club for member to purely enjoy a good game of badminton, seeking no profit and even balancing the book with your own pocket money.

that is the spirit of badminton! i wish your club continued success.

Thanks Kwun, yeah, I always think when something I interest turns into business, there is no fun at all (Just like my design job hahahahaha).

To enjoy a good game, and good friends gather on SAT afternoon after hard work, is the best entertainment for us every week. :) Agree?

We recently started to make team shirt too, attemp to build up more team spirit between everyone. I'm so looking forward for that. :D

[redkingjoe]

I visited your web site. Well done!!!! Wish you every success in enjoying this sports.

Best regards

Red King

And anyone who interest to play with Jamclub, you guys or gals can e-mail directly to:

jamclub@netvigator.com

If you can read Chinese, apartfrom newsgroup, you can also visit our web site:

http://hk.geocities.com/jamclub2003/home.html

[pete5]

Hi,

I'm Pete from the Philippines, I often go here in Hong Kong in a business trip ... anyway, I was wondering if your group is still active, I play badminton in the Philippines, though I'm just new in the sport ... anyway, i'm interested in dropping by and play badminton with your group. I hope you can still accomodate me ... I'll be here in HK 'til the 16th of October ... you may e-mail me here or at my personal e-mail add ... peter_martinez@engineer.com.

Thanks

Pete




Hello, all the badminton fans,

I'm Jazz, a new guy here and also a club manager of a new badminton club in Hong Kong called "JAM"

We are welcome all the good to advance badminton players to join us, on every SAT at Tsuen Wan area.

If you are from overseas, just drop by in Hong Kong for business and are looking for a group of good players to play with you for fun, please feel free to contact me.

And you guys can also access our newsgroup to check out the schedule update from there. PLease click the link below:

news://news.3home.net/3sport.club.badminton.jam

Let's come and "JAM".

[princeTT]

Hi Jazz! I'm wondering if you could accommodate us in your club? My family will be going there 28th to the 31st of Oct. We are going to stay at Holiday Inn. Is your club near the hotel? How do we get there? How much do we have to spend?
Hello, all the badminton fans,

I'm Jazz, a new guy here and also a club manager of a new badminton club in Hong Kong called "JAM"

We are welcome all the good to advance badminton players to join us, on every SAT at Tsuen Wan area.

If you are from overseas, just drop by in Hong Kong for business and are looking for a group of good players to play with you for fun, please feel free to contact me.

And you guys can also access our newsgroup to check out the schedule update from there. PLease click the link below:

news://news.3home.net/3sport.club.badminton.jam

Let's come and "JAM".

[Shortylink]

Umm jazz just wondering even if our age is younger then 20 u think we will b able to here also?? would those ppl still accept games from me at least??

[neo_Rabbit]

it's actually cheaper when a student books it... so maybe get your son/daughter to book it for you? it's abt $45 i think for govt courts. if you wanna cut down on costs a bit, maybe get cheaper generic shuttles? try contacting badminton salespeople, and see if you can get non-branded shuttles? some of them are quite long lasting at a reasonable price (around 60?), and if you buy in bulk, they'll give u more discount. check out e78.com.hk (i hv no connections with that store, i jus bought my nano there once), think they have discounts (up to $10 cheaper) if you buy 10 tubes or more i think.