Strengths and weaknesses

[venkatesh]

I was browsing Wikipedia when I came accross some descriptions of the style and ability of the players.


Lin Dan
Strengths --- Lin Dan is a left handed player whose most defining characteristic is his ability to attack with fast smashes at steep angles. He combines quick movements around the court with the ability to maintain long aggressive rallies to win the majority of his matches. His well built physique helps him to produce powerful straight and cross court jump smashes and his fast penetrating footwork makes him one of the toughest active badminton players in the open circuit.
Weaknesses --- He is known as a temperamental player, occasionally disrupting matches to protest line calls.

Taufik Hidayat
Strengths --- Hidayat's qualities are his backhand (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backhand) (he is arguably most famous for his backhand smash, which has been recorded at over 200 km/h), forehand drop shot (reverse slice in particular), forehand jump smash, net-play, smooth footwork and occasional deceptive shots (such as his fake smash and fake drive, both of which he plays as drop shots).
Weaknesses --- He has weaknesses in is his propensity to make errors, his impatience with loud crowds and his penchant for returning a net shot with a net shot, even when the opponent is dangerously close to the net.

Wong Mew Choo
Strengths --- She is known for her exceptional endurance and stamina, the result of training alongside male shuttlers. Without any significant attacking arsenals, she initially built her game based on fitness and defence, with the ability to run a continuous, long rally; sending everything back to tactically superior opponents until a mistake or an attacking opportunity appears.
Weaknesses --- Lacks attacking skills. Because of long rallies, such tactics have served her well, but put a lot of pressure on her knees and ankles.. She has been known to suffer from various long term injuries in her playing career.

Peter Gade
Strengths --- His playing style is known for fast attacks, smooth footwork, constant pressure, and deceptive shots.

Xie Xingfang
Not an especially elegant looking stylist, Xie's strengths have been her combination of reach, quickness, consistency, and court sense.

I know this may have been discussed in each of the players' thread, but it would really be nice to see all of their styles and abilities in just one thread for better comparison. It would be cool if our baddy heroes have stats, pros and cons, and stuff like that, so much like the X-men trade cards or Magic (The Gathering) cards or Battle Tank, or Digimon, or whatever.


CARE TO ADD MORE?

[Isegrim]

Peter Gade was often hurt in the past. i think this is one of his biggest weaknesses :(

[bad_fanatic]

I'm surprise that you have LD, TH, WMC, but no LCW.

[suetyan]

Xie Xingfang's weakness: Lack of motivation after being defeated in OG 08 :(

[venkatesh]

I'm surprise that you have LD, TH, WMC, but no LCW.

There's no description of his style of play in Wikipedia.

Would you care to start stating his strengths and weaknesses? :)

[juara]

Dato' LCW; preseverence & hardworking...
Skills: only above average

[koo_fan]

Dato' LCW; preseverence & hardworking...
Skills: only above average
You aim for being the best. No matter how the odds are, if your goals are set, you never quit. People admire for how hard you try, regardless of your skills. Although you do let the power of your opponent's crowd hinder your game on the court. You are not as mentally strong. You concentrate on retrieving the shuttle. You're a control player. But when you are at home territory , you're dominating! - Facebook's description on LCW.
Quite obvious, no?

[george@chongwei]

Xie Xingfang's weakness: Lack of motivation after being defeated in OG 08 :(
zhu lin's weakness.. quite similar with xxf too.. no motivation after being excluded from the OG08 team and now the wc09:(

[aulia]

Ah, this is my opinion then,

Maria Kristin Yulianti
Strengths --- She moves around the court fluidly. Almost lazily. But often surprising her opponent with all those retrieving efforts. A rally lover. Very constructive player. Her game depends on her ability to read her opponents playing style, once she get it, she will dictate the game. Gifted with so many 'amazing' shot just by moving her wrist.

Weakness --- Her ability to make tons of errors really cost her so many matches. She needs to gain power shot too.

Sony Dwi Kuncoro
Strengths --- Another rally lover. Almost same with Maria, he does constructive games. Waiting patiently to do some killing shots. His techniques are above the average.

Weakness --- He is really slow at the beginning of game. If the opponents can take the advantage of this situation and take more points asap, usually he will be confused. Lacks of winning attitude.

[aulia]

Adrianti Firdasari

Strengths --- Plays with attacking style.

Weakness --- Lacks of endurance. Her defensive shot isn't good enough if facing another attackers.

[aulia]

Liliyana Natsir
Strengths --- As a mixed double player, she has very good defensive shots. She is not afraid of being attacked. In front of the net, she can be very dangerous with tight net shot and her crosscourt smash.

Weakness --- Despite usually being top seeds, she just doesn’t have the ‘champion’ attitude. Often do some ‘amateur’ expression that can make her opponent gaining confidence to beat her.

Vita Marissa
Strenghts --- Her placement almost perfect. If she is in good mood, her shot is very difficult to read since she uses so much slice and wrist technique.

Weakness --- Power is not her friend. Three same shots comeback to her if she is in backside position, she will give up doing smash and just lob it.

[ctjcad]

..eerily titled almost the same, as well:
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14304

[Athelete1234]

Just some weaknesses... IMO:

PG - doesn't smash hard enough, misses the lines when under pressure
LCW - Too passive and not aggressive enough
LD - sometimes gets lazy and drops pace
TH - Too slow, smash is losing power too

[Athelete1234]

Dato' LCW; preseverence & hardworking...
Skills: only above average
IMO, LCW's skills are impressive considering how he easily beats TH, almost every other play in the world, except PG in Korean open, and LD.

[Sportech]

Wang Lin
Strengths:Good attacking and defencing skills. Fast reflexes.Smooth footwork, covers the court nicely.

Weaknesses: Lose self-confidence in the 3rd sets, poor net skills.

[venkatesh]

..eerily titled almost the same, as well:
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14304

Wow. This must be one of the X-files. Same title, but one is restricted only to All England 2004 players. :)

[ctjcad]

..do the players' weaknesses and strengths change from:
- Tourneys to tourneys?
- Year to year?
- Partner to partner (if they're Doubles players)??
- Event to event (if a player changes from playing Singles to Doubles and vice versa??)..:p
Are the ones listed on wikipedia more or less the accumulation of all of those players' playing years/career??..

[bad_fanatic]

There's no description of his style of play in Wikipedia.

Would you care to start stating his strengths and weaknesses? :)

LCW

Strengths: Stamina, and strong cross court smash.

Weakness: Weak mental. Easily succumbed to pressure and get worked up under bad line calls.

There's probably more but that's all I can think of.

[aulia]

..do the players' weaknesses and strengths change from:
- Tourneys to tourneys?
- Year to year?
- Partner to partner (if they're Doubles players)??
- Event to event (if a player changes from playing Singles to Doubles and vice versa??)..:p
Are the ones listed on wikipedia more or less the accumulation of all of those players' playing years/career??..

I think yes! :)

Along with time (tourneys + exercise + practice + experience + etc), they will change. And that will make differences between good and better player. Who keep improving will survive and of course, we must update their strengths...:D:D

I think tennis is one of sport that really care about things like this, i mean, statistic, strengths and weakness, and history of tourneys. It must be very good if badminton can be like that too. :D:D

[ctjcad]

..how many times should we update a player's weakness(es) or strength(s)??..once a yr? twice a yr? once every 4 yrs? once s/he retires?..:confused:

[bad_fanatic]

..or maybe we should do it tourny by tourny. That why people would know why the players win or lose in that tourny.

[Athelete1234]

..or maybe we should do it tourny by tourny. That why people would know why the players win or lose in that tourny.
No point in that, cause it's not like LCW gets better between Singapore open, and IO, or between AE and swiss open.

Yearly is good, unless it's like team china where the players disappear for a few months, come back improved.

[16FeathRPassioN]

Well as a learner , i would like to read how or in what period of time do they over come their weaknesses, cuz that's what would help lots of guys like me reading the thread.So people come up with some helping material instead of gossips.

P.S. No offence intended (at least don't ban me for this MODS,:P)

[aulia]

..how many times should we update a player's weakness(es) or strength(s)??..once a yr? twice a yr? once every 4 yrs? once s/he retires?..:confused:

Hehe. Every 'amazing' improvement he/she made! I mean, if a player cannot do crosscourt smash before and now he/she is master on that, we must note it as strength. ^^

Must be fun if we make predict by write on these 'point', hehe. Ex: if the two player meet, we can write:
TH vs LCW
Backhand: 5 vs 4
Forehand: 4 vs 5
Movement: 3 vs 5
Mental strength: 4 vs 4

Just my opinion, :D:D

[venkatesh]

Liliyana Natsir
Strengths --- As a mixed double player, she has very good defensive shots. She is not afraid of being attacked. In front of the net, she can be very dangerous with tight net shot and her crosscourt smash.

Weakness --- Despite usually being top seeds, she just doesn’t have the ‘champion’ attitude. Often do some ‘amateur’ expression that can make her opponent gaining confidence to beat her.

Vita Marissa
Strenghts --- Her placement almost perfect. If she is in good mood, her shot is very difficult to read since she uses so much slice and wrist technique.

Weakness --- Power is not her friend. Three same shots comeback to her if she is in backside position, she will give up doing smash and just lob it.

Great observation. After reading your review, I watched Lilyana and Vita's mixed doubles match. Indeed, Natsir's defense is surprising. Indeed, Marissa's smashes are usually returned to her. Goog job. I'd like to hear more from you. Most especially, your observation with Natsir and Marissa's male partners, Nova Widianto and Flandy Limpele. Thank you. :)

[venkatesh]

Lee Yong Dae
Strengths --- Lee Yong Dae is known for his great anticipation, superb net skills, good placement, incredible court awareness, and fast movement. He is also very flexible, surprisingly reaching the shuttle far from him, which usually catches his opponent off guard. For such a young age, it seems like he has gained a lot of experience on court, even surpassing other experienced veterans in the men's doubles category. Don't be fooled by his innocent looks as this Olympic champ can be very lethal.

Weaknesses --- Although his defence is very effective, he sometimes overdo his placement that the shuttle gets caught up in the net. During flat exchanges, he usually intimidates his opponents by moving forward, therefore, getting tangled up with the speed of the shuttle. And in some attempts to be deceptive, Lee Yong Dae mishits the shuttle or makes a shot that leaves his partner vulnerable. His jump smash also looks awkward. (It may be effective, but it still looks awkward. :()

This is just my observation. Please don't get mad if you're a fan. Overall, he's a very gifted player. And being young that he is, Lee Yong Dae still has a lot of tournaments to win.

[aulia]

I believe many of you can add some about our Olympic Gold Medalist. :):)

Hendra Setiawan
Strengths --- His calmness helped him in front of net. He can do VERY tight net shots and blocks, forcing his opponent sending another net shot that usually failed or getting punch by him, or sending it loose to back where Kido is ready to kill. His placement is very accurate even his defensive shot is controlled well. His ability to read his opponent shots is amazing. He is often changing his direction of shots between rallies, causing his opponent frustrate and wrong-footed.

Weakness --- Overdoing placement. I don’t know but lately, I think he is EASIER to make some silly mistakes.

Markis Kido

Strengths --- His jumping smash. With Setiawan in front of net, he will be a GIANT killer with this jumping smash. His ability to do it consecutively is remarkable. Lately, I think he is improving in front of net. His defensive shot is very good too. With his height, doing drive shots is becoming easier.

Weakness --- Getting nervous when facing some good defensive players. When his smash and faking drop shot doesn’t working, he looks very amateur and losing.

[aulia]

Ah, very thanks then. :). I m not really good writing English so plz forgive me if I can't explained it in the best description. :p;)

Flandy Limpele
Strengths --- I didn’t see Limpele much. But I can say that Limpele has one of the best smash; power and placement. Helped by his height, he can do overhead crosscourt smash with amazing depth. When I see he played with Vita Marissa, he’s just becoming BIG brother for her. I think he is very reliable as partner. Ah ya, I think he is very good about controlling emotion. Very calm player.
Weakness --- He is not young anymore. Playing with fast pace will put him under pressure much. Since most of his shots depend on his accuracy, he usually lost control when his stamina is drop.

Nova Widianto
Strengths --- Until now, I cannot really see his very BEST shot. I mean, he is above average but not special. None of his shot can be trademark of him. His experience helped him through most of matches. I think he is okay with his shots. Sometimes this can make he is very dangerous since his opponent didn’t really care about his shots.
Weakness --- His poor service. Critical points will trouble him MUCH. His recovery is very slow (IMO), getting older doesn’t help him at all.

[Athelete1234]

Ah, very thanks then. :). I m not really good writing English so plz forgive me if I can't explained it in the best description. :p;)

Flandy Limpele
Strengths --- I didn’t see Limpele much. But I can say that Limpele has one of the best smash; power and placement. Helped by his height, he can do overhead crosscourt smash with amazing depth. When I see he played with Vita Marissa, he’s just becoming BIG brother for her. I think he is very reliable as partner. Ah ya, I think he is very good about controlling emotion. Very calm player.
Weakness --- He is not young anymore. Playing with fast pace will put him under pressure much. Since most of his shots depend on his accuracy, he usually lost control when his stamina is drop.

Nova Widianto
Strengths --- Until now, I cannot really see his very BEST shot. I mean, he is above average but not special. None of his shot can be trademark of him. His experience helped him through most of matches. I think he is okay with his shots. Sometimes this can make he is very dangerous since his opponent didn’t really care about his shots.
Weakness --- His poor service. Critical points will trouble him MUCH. His recovery is very slow (IMO), getting older doesn’t help him at all.
I feel Nova has a strong backhand which lets him be a little lazier around court, but I find his smash is pretty average and isn't reliable to be doign a lot of damage.

[samuello1994]

I'm surprise that you have LD, TH, WMC, but no LCW.
haha yeah but i would leave taufik and lindan up. But who the f*** is wmc lol

[Athelete1234]

haha yeah but i would leave taufik and lindan up. But who the f*** is wmc lol
Umm... in the original post....there's somebody named Wong Mew Choo:rolleyes::rolleyes:

[Hi no Samurai]

Fu Haifeng = good offence, great smashes, but poor on defence

i watched that he's the one who were being targeted by his opponents

[george@chongwei]

Fu Haifeng = good offence, great smashes, but poor on defence

i watched that he's the one who were being targeted by his opponents
agree with you. He needs to improve more on his defence especially when he change his gripping that time to defence.

[venkatesh]

Just wait. As you can observe, he has tremendously improved in his front court play. He's just taking it one step at a time. If he improves in his defense, whoa, the Cai-Fu tandem would be unstoppable.

[george@chongwei]

Just wait. As you can observe, he has tremendously improved in his front court play. He's just taking it one step at a time. If he improves in his defense, whoa, the Cai-Fu tandem would be unstoppable.
yep, that's what's the chinese word term feng-yun applies:cool:

[ye333]

Should note that at the same time his smashes are getting weaker.

Is he a more complete player now? I think yes. Is he more effective (in getting points) than before? I think no.


Just wait. As you can observe, he has tremendously improved in his front court play. He's just taking it one step at a time. If he improves in his defense, whoa, the Cai-Fu tandem would be unstoppable.

[Athelete1234]

Should note that at the same time his smashes are getting weaker.

Is he a more complete player now? I think yes. Is he more effective (in getting points) than before? I think no.
He varies his backcourt play more (more drops). I dont' really think his smashing is much weaker, though it still lacks good placement. If he had the angles and frontcourt play of Cai Yun, he'd be unstoppable.

[jon_91]

This is some of my vie and comments.


Koo Kien Keat-
Strength -->He is said to be one of the best net player in MD. His net play is so incredible that even Lee Yong Dae can compete with him. His dummy shots are so incredible and really felt "dumb" in front of the net. His movement is fluent.He can also be a base player He is also can be a good Mixed double player with all his variation in MD.

Weaknesses --> He sometimes overdid his net shot and make people call him arrogant. In tremendous pressure, we can play as an amatuer which will have his partner to cover him. His defensive play sometime good sometimes bad. He will act too "confident" in front of the crowd and players.

Tan Boon Heong-
Strength --> During the two years since winning AE07, his game has improved a lot. His smashing power has increased, with much power and angle. He can play incredible angle smash on his opponent. His net play has also improved.

Weaknesses --> He tend to crack in pressure. His defensive shots and defence are not that awesome. He will lost his touch when opponent keep on smashing. He tend to do a lot of mistakes when pressure and expectation are on him and KKK.

If they play with their true self, they can be a world beater and they will all tbe scared of the two of them.

[venkatesh]

This is some of my vie and comments.

Tan Boon Heong-

Strength --> During the two years since winning AE07, his game has improved a lot. His smashing power has increased, with much power and angle. He can play incredible angle smash on his opponent. His net play has also improved.


Weaknesses --> He tend to crack in pressure. His defensive shots and defence are not that awesome. He will lost his touch when opponent keep on smashing. He tend to do a lot of mistakes when pressure and expectation are on him and KKK.


If they play with their true self, they can be a world beater and they will all tbe scared of the two of them.


May I add that TBH also lacks aggressiveness.

[george@chongwei]

but i can see he's improving in this aspect. with his sharpness in front of the net and smashing angle:cool: