Who will win the MS title at the 2009 WC?

[eaglehelang]

Why would they complain, that's smart. Well prepared player always beat less-prepared player. :cool:

Because there were those who questioned Msia for bringing 2 chefs (and LCW for the short trip to Korea, and ..... etc,etc,etc, the list goes on.
Jasonmarc knows that I know the history, LOL, no need to elaborate.

[Loh]

Against a super fit LCW, LD would have to count on some really magical skillset to overcome LCW. And that is the cruncher - his skillset is not that great these days (tit for tat, LCW does not lose out to him).

In the past, LCW was hounded by LD for the following reasons:
- speed
- skillset (drop shots, rallies, smashes)
- defence
- Strategy
- confidence

If you are any analyst, you will also know the above reasons are unlikely to apply any more. Today, LCW is on of the fastest player, if not the fastest, on court today. He is awesomely fast. His last tournament showed him with one the best net plays (this boy has been practicing, you can tell). Rallies ? Well, remember the Swiss Open - LD wouldn't want to remember ! Smashes ? Can anyone fault LCW - his cross court shots are now as lethal as LD, and he is not shy of smashing LD.

Well, defence is always something to argue about - but over time, I noticed defence is always going to drop for anyone not fit (e.g. if you have several hard matches). So I would say, this is not going to be a problem for a very fit LCW.

Strategy wise, Misbun is not a slouch when plotting the strategy for LCW. He knows LD's game after so many years watching him (the game is up - Misbun has him mapped for every 'genome', if I can borrow the term). Additionally, LM has given LCW some great tips (of course, not to be shared here :D).

Does anyone still think LCW lacks confidence ? Well think twice if you are still not convinced. LCW thinks he will 'eat' LYB for breakfast, the guy he got easily distracted by.:D

Need I say more ?;)

With such super assets, yet he lost to lowly NTM in the Singapore SS not too long ago...hahahahaha! :D:D:D

[volcom]

LCW can match LD OG08 speed????

[Loh]

About LCW's short trip to Korea, instead of making more trips in the future, why not bid for LM's services again in the new season and let Misbun take a well-deserved rest and spend more time with his wife.

Then LCW can be sure of a better chance to win the WC and perhaps have another go at the gold medal at the London Olympics 2012, hopefully LD would have lost all motivation to win another gold medal by then. :rolleyes::D

[jasonmarc]

About LCW's short trip to Korea, instead of making more trips in the future, why not bid for LM's services again in the new season and let Misbun take a well-deserved rest and spend more time with his wife.

Then LCW can be sure of a better chance to win the WC and perhaps have another go at the gold medal at the London Olympics 2012, hopefully LD would have lost all motivation to win another gold medal by then. :rolleyes::D

Just like Chn bring 'The Thing' back to chn from Indonesia...? ;)...

Yes, I agree with Uncle Loh......bringing 'foreign teachers' to teach local boys and girls shd be the right way to prepare for future...:p...:D:D Like Mas already hired Hendrwan...

Maybe not LCW for 2012,..but the back ups and juniors........

[jasonmarc]

With such super assets, yet he lost to lowly NTM in the Singapore SS not too long ago...hahahahaha! :D:D:D

Uncle Loh,...pls respect NTM......he's a great player, he just won a GP tile beaten BP........no more lowly NTM anymore.........LOL :D

[xiao_le]

My sixth sense told me LeeCW is prepared in term of mental, He always think back his painful moment in the Olympic Final during these past training weeks. He will not let the tough trainings he had undergone gone for nowhere except at Hyderabad, India! He will reach his top form in term of mentality and skills! LD had has his in Olympic last yr..hehe

[cooler]

Uncle Loh,...pls respect NTM......he's a great player, he just won a GP tile beaten BP........no more lowly NTM anymore.........LOL :D Loh wasn't knocking NTM. LCW will meet NTM in round 2.

[Loh]

Just like Chn bring 'The Thing' back to chn from Indonesia...? ;)...

Yes, I agree with Uncle Loh......bringing 'foreign teachers' to teach local boys and girls shd be the right way to prepare for future...:p...:D:D Like Mas already hired Hendrwan...

Maybe not LCW for 2012,..but the back ups and juniors........

Well I'm not too sure whether "The Thing" was brought back or he himself made a return to CHN since the political conditions in INA then were not too condusive for the Chinese.

Maybe some one can confirm that aspect of The Thing's history. ;)

I hope Malaysians can now understand better why Singapore needs "foreign imports" to help improve things. Not too long ago there was a very strong attack on Singapore's "foreign imports" policy.

[Loh]

Sorry repetition.

[X Ball]

With such super assets, yet he lost to lowly NTM in the Singapore SS not too long ago...hahahahaha! :D:D:D

As if LD had not lost to lesser ? ? Always arguing with bias?:D

[george@chongwei]

With such super assets, yet he lost to lowly NTM in the Singapore SS not too long ago...hahahahaha! :D:D:D
Nevermind, we shall see who will laugh harder and louder after wednesday:confused:;):rolleyes::D

[george@chongwei]

5 players holds the upper hand as they got a free walkover as their opponents withdrew.
And this also includes Nguyen Tien Minh of Vietnam;);)(RAISE EYES HERE;))

[george@chongwei]

Loh wasn't knocking NTM. LCW will meet NTM in round 2.
It will be only the 3rd round.:cool: NTM will only be in action in the 2nd round whereas Chong wei have to face domke of germany 1st as a warm up match and then againsnt ola fagbemi of nigeria in the 2nd round before setting up a 3rd round clash with NTM;)

[hcpoirot]

We will see another LCW famous threads here either he win or lose. If he win the thread title: "Why LCW win?" with all his fans congrats him and belittle other players. If he lost the thread title : "Why did LCW lost?" And most of his fans will slam LCW with harsh words.

[Loh]

We will see another LCW famous threads here either he win or lose. If he win the thread title: "Why LCW win?" with all his fans congrats him and belittle other players. If he lost the thread title : "Why did LCW lost?" And most of his fans will slam LCW with harsh words.

I'm afraid you must be right! :D

[george@chongwei]

We will see another LCW famous threads here either he win or lose. If he win the thread title: "Why LCW win?" with all his fans congrats him and belittle other players. If he lost the thread title : "Why did LCW lost?" And most of his fans will slam LCW with harsh words.
agree..and i'm sure mostly all of us here already know who will create that thread...;)

[jasonmarc]

So, anybody care to create a thread now.....' Why did BCL lost in 1st round...?' hehehe

[X Ball]

BCL must have given it away - too cheap. Maybe he knows it is pointless to play with LD.

[xymaerts]

U heard about a word call "team order"? If this is the case, LD just sit there also can win..I am talking about IF.. Hopefully this time CHN won't get complaint for their famous's "team order"


I don't think it will be easy for Lin Dan pass Bao CL this time in the 3rd round.

when Bao was asked to play Lin Dan in the training camp, he refused, and the reason was that they would play very soon in the world championship. This indicates that

Bao really wants to win at WC, at least win against LD
There's no fixing in the WC
Bao has developed some secret weapons against LD
Let's look at their latest results:

Bao just won 5 star Singapore super series, and skipped Indonesia open
LD skipped the Singapore, and lost to Chen Jin at Ina open
Bao has won 3 titles this year
LD has lost to too many people this year: to Chen Jin twice, to Chen Long, to Lee CW...
Therefore, I will not be surprised to see LD lost in the 3rd round.

[wang.cly]

BCL lost in the first round... 2 games straight?

[jasonmarc]

BCL must have given it away - too cheap. Maybe he knows it is pointless to play with LD.

Too cheap.....:eek:....not even worth '2cents'........?

2cents's theory has collapsed due to 'team order'....i think....;)

[Loh]

Too cheap.....:eek:....not even worth '2cents'........?

2cents's theory has collapsed due to 'team order'....i think....;)

Which means LD should not fear having to meet his own teammates until the final perhaps! :D

Incidentally, I suspect BCL's recent injury must be the main reason for his straight games loss to Dicky Palyama. Sorry 2cents may have been given wrong information.

Surprisingly, Court 3 has completed 4 matches and Court 1 has only finished one match!, the starting time being the same.

[suetyan]

Which means LD should not fear having to meet his own teammates until the final perhaps! :D

Incidentally, I suspect BCL's recent injury must be the main reason for his straight games loss to Dicky Palyama. Sorry 2cents may have been given wrong information.

Surprisingly, Court 3 has completed 4 matches and Court 1 has only finished one match!, the starting time being the same.
yes, agree. His recent injury is the main reason for his fall in this WC. He did not have systematic training for the past few weeks also because he was in HK to undergo some treatment plus some light training :( Biggest upset..

[LD rules!]

BCL out losing in staight sets to dicky palayama 18-21 14-21
Shock defeat

[eaglehelang]

The 9 people who voted Bao to win will be disappointed.

[LD rules!]

The 9 people who voted Bao to win will be disappointed.

yep I know

LD is through winning 21-11 21-9
PG is through winning 21-16 21-11

[LD rules!]

nooooooooooooo!
Alistair casey is out !
Losing 21-18 18-21 13-21

[DairyRon]

oh well... Sony Dwi won 21-13 21-9

[X Ball]

Looking at Lee Tsuen Seng's play, I think he should give up competive badminton. His net plays are awesomely BAD. And so is his defence.

[chris-ccc]

yes, agree. His (BCL) recent injury is the main reason for his fall in this WC. He did not have systematic training for the past few weeks also because he was in HK to undergo some treatment plus some light training :( Biggest upset..



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Hi suetyan ,

If BCL was not fit to participate in this 2009 WC, then why was he included in the CHN team?
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[suetyan]

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Hi suetyan ,

If BCL was not fit to participate in this 2009 WC, then why was he included in the CHN team?
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because Li Yongbo still has faith in BCL. Although BCL is not fit enough currently, but LD, BCL and CJ are still the top 3 in China team. But maybe sooner or later, CL will take over one of these positions. BCL claimed that there is no wind problem on the court today, he also doesn't know why he will lose. :rolleyes: But unsystematic training is the main factor of course.

[george@chongwei]

lol, what a surprise 1st round exit for bcl..
i'm wondering what the master li thinking now..any plan c?:rolleyes:

whatever it is, BCl had been bowed out from the 1st round of the wc;)

[sting1988]

Plan Chen Jin! He won't bow down till he meets Lin Dan

[suetyan]

lol, what a surprise 1st round exit for bcl..
i'm wondering what the master li thinking now..any plan c?:rolleyes:

whatever it is, BCl had been bowed out from the 1st round of the wc;)
of course there is plan C, there is always an alternative ;)

[pjswift]

BCL lost because LYB did not think of DP as an opponent thus BCL had no rote training with a DP clone.
So BCL lost confidence resulting in the tail end match collapse.
( Also, CHN's stamina advantage does not feature in the early stages of a tournament against non-CHN veterans.)

[whack_d_net]

IMO:
BCL lost just becoz he want to skip "team orders"
Why he must fight hard if in the end he had to surrender to LD?
Hahaha kiddin :p
Seems like those "bad knee" rumours and such are true, after all
Poor LD, he must burn some extra sweat, LOL :rolleyes:
.....
Well at least BCL already packed 3 titles this year
Now he can enjoy his trip in Hyderabad
He also still got lots of instant noodles to enjoy, though

[Loh]

IMO:
BCL lost just becoz he want to skip "team orders"
Why he must fight hard if in the end he had to surrender to LD?
Hahaha kiddin :p
Seems like those "bad knee" rumours and such are true, after all
Poor LD, he must burn some extra sweat, LOL :rolleyes:
.....
Well at least BCL already packed 3 titles this year
Now he can enjoy his trip in Hyderabad
He also still got lots of instant noodles to enjoy, though

...possibly he might be able to charm his Indian lady fans as he did elsewhere, particularly in INA. BCL may indeed be enjoying his trip to Hyderabad after all! ;)

[chris-ccc]

...possibly he might be able to charm his Indian lady fans as he did elsewhere, particularly in INA. BCL may indeed be enjoying his trip to Hyderabad after all! ;)



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Perhaps BCL is telling his teammates "Let's get out from India, ASAP".
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[Teck Kai]

Dear ALL, i guess LIN DAN will become MS champion.

[george@chongwei]

LET'S wait and see how master Li plans things next:cool:
anxiously waiting for the next episode though:p

[zhiquanlin]

Of Course It Will Be Lin Dan

[george@chongwei]

hey man, welcome to the forum!:)

[zhiquanlin]

Haha. Thank You Very Much. By The Way, Do You Know Where Can I See The Broadcast Of The Wc?

[george@chongwei]

Haha. Thank You Very Much. By The Way, Do You Know Where Can I See The Broadcast Of The Wc?
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=73321
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=73754

There you go:cool:

[zhiquanlin]

Thanks a lot！Ｉ　ｗｉｌｌ　ｔｒｙ

[hungle]

That will be Vietnam player, Nguyen Tien Minh (Tien Minh Nguyen)

[swwet_love]

everything will happen... lol we just waited...

[y_yin]

I hope lcw can win although it will be a tough job for him.

[X Ball]

I hope lcw can win although it will be a tough job for him.

Why would it be any tougher for him ? LD has got weight on his shoulder -- he is expected to win by the poll. He carries the whole of China 1.5Billion people on his shoulder. LCW has got very little.

No, I think LCW will breeze through this tournament.

[X Ball]

As for BCL, LYB (the coach) already gave the game away when he said in an interview before the start of the WC that he does not feel it is right that BCL gets to be in the same group as LD so many times.

By saying that, I can feel BCL would be excused by the coach if he does not go through to meet LD. And I think LYB would have said to him, don't bother to go past the 1st round as you might meet up with LD and we do not want that to happen because you might stress LD.

[Loh]

Why would it be any tougher for him ? LD has got weight on his shoulder -- he is expected to win by the poll. He carries the whole of China 1.5Billion people on his shoulder. LCW has got very little.

No, I think LCW will breeze through this tournament.

That weight on his shoulder has grown much lighter now since he has the experience of carrying it twice before including the weightier Beijing Olympics gold medal which he captured on the more demanding home soil. A third time should be a breeze for LD instead and it is an added incentive to create a record. Li Ning must already have something 'unbeatable' up their sleeves to reward him for carrying their name high up in the sky. ;)

The Datuk, on the other hand, has not only to live up to the expectations of his loyal fans but also those of the politicians who gave him the title. :o So much so the 'kiasuism' got onto him like the swine fever and he has to travel to KOR to seek former guru LM for further assistance. Poor coach Misbun has no alternative but to accompany him despite being given something akin to a "slap in the face", but as in his calm and unoffensive nature, Misbun of course chose not to display his hidden displeasure and "embarrassment". :o

[OneToughBirdie]

That weight on his shoulder has grown much lighter now since he has the experience of carrying it twice before including the weightier Beijing Olympics gold medal which he captured on the more demanding home soil. A third time should be a breeze for LD instead and it is an added incentive to create a record. Li Ning must already have something 'unbeatable' up their sleeves to reward him for carrying their name high up in the sky. ;)

The Datuk, on the other hand, has not only to live up to the expectations of his loyal fans but also those of the politicians who gave him the title. :o So much so the 'kiasuism' got onto him like the swine fever and he has to travel to KOR to seek former guru LM for further assistance. Poor coach Misbun has no alternative but to accompany him despite being given something akin to a "slap in the face", but as in his calm and unoffensive nature, Misbun of course chose not to display his hidden displeasure and "embarrassment". :o

Hahaha!! Good debater Loh:D:p XBall, you are not going to take this 'abuse' eh, time to strike back?:p

[Loh]

Hahaha!! Good debater Loh:D:p XBall, you are not going to take this 'abuse' eh, time to strike back?:p

Wah one good debater calling another not bad! This is an honour man! Thank u, thank u! :p:D:D:D

[X Ball]

That weight on his shoulder has grown much lighter now since he has the experience of carrying it twice before including the weightier Beijing Olympics gold medal which he captured on the more demanding home soil. A third time should be a breeze for LD instead and it is an added incentive to create a record. Li Ning must already have something 'unbeatable' up their sleeves to reward him for carrying their name high up in the sky. ;)

The Datuk, on the other hand, has not only to live up to the expectations of his loyal fans but also those of the politicians who gave him the title. :o So much so the 'kiasuism' got onto him like the swine fever and he has to travel to KOR to seek former guru LM for further assistance. Poor coach Misbun has no alternative but to accompany him despite being given something akin to a "slap in the face", but as in his calm and unoffensive nature, Misbun of course chose not to display his hidden displeasure and "embarrassment". :o

A debate without proper facts would have lost. Like saying Misbun
has no alternative but to go - when time and again, Misbun corrected that by saying he was consulted and agreed that LCW and he should go. If he felt he was short-changed, Misbun would have said so and would not have gone - so again, you have thrown another insult, this time at Misbun.

Loh, not too low, only at your limbo rock party please.:o

[Jonc108]

That weight on his shoulder has grown much lighter now since he has the experience of carrying it twice before including the weightier Beijing Olympics gold medal which he captured on the more demanding home soil. A third time should be a breeze for LD instead and it is an added incentive to create a record. Li Ning must already have something 'unbeatable' up their sleeves to reward him for carrying their name high up in the sky. ;)

The Datuk, on the other hand, has not only to live up to the expectations of his loyal fans but also those of the politicians who gave him the title. :o So much so the 'kiasuism' got onto him like the swine fever and he has to travel to KOR to seek former guru LM for further assistance. Poor coach Misbun has no alternative but to accompany him despite being given something akin to a "slap in the face", but as in his calm and unoffensive nature, Misbun of course chose not to display his hidden displeasure and "embarrassment". :o

rightly analysed.

in fact, the weight on LD during OG is much much bigger: he lost in the previous OG; unlike western sportsman, home soil to Chinese player is always not an advantage but big big pressure.

therefore this time I would rather worry about whether LD still have the same strong desire to win as he effectively has won everything... so it's not a surprise if he lost... and not even a disaster if he lost to LCW, as anyway he still has more much more major titles and big head-to-head record advantage than LCW, the WR#1.

on the other hand, LCW is more eager to win his first major title... As I said previously, given the WC being held once every year now, LCW may eventually win his first one... so it would not be a surprise if he win this one...

maybe we move on and create a thread on how many WCs (and/or major titles) would be won by LD and LCW respectively at the end of their careers.... :rolleyes::rolleyes:

[OneToughBirdie]

rightly analysed.

in fact, the weight on LD during OG is much much bigger: he lost in the previous OG; unlike western sportsman, home soil to Chinese player is always not an advantage but big big pressure.

therefore this time I would rather worry about whether LD still have the same strong desire to win as he effectively has won everything... so it's not a surprise if he lost... and not even a disaster if he lost to LCW, as anyway he still has more much more major titles and big head-to-head record advantage than LCW, the WR#1.

on the other hand, LCW is more eager to win his first major title... As I said previously, given the WC being held once every year now, LCW may eventually win his first one... so it would not be a surprise if he win this one...

maybe we move on and create a thread on how many WCs (and/or major titles) would be won by LD and LCW respectively at the end of their careers.... :rolleyes::rolleyes:

LD winning this WC09 would make him 3x champion, a record and also, deny LCW from crowning WC, makes a joke of the WR, endorsement from LN and bonus, etc...therefore LD desire to win is unquestioned.
LCW of course is more eager to win WC...prestige, lifting a monkey of his back, a WC, pride, respect...and to a LCW being a professional baddy player (playing baddy is his fulltime job), big time $$$ in the bank and consider that LCW career is ending fast, if he doesn't win this time, next year will be tougher.

[X Ball]

LD winning this WC09 would make him 3x champion, a record and also, deny LCW from crowning WC, makes a joke of the WR, endorsement from LN and bonus, etc...therefore LD desire to win is unquestioned.
LCW of course is more eager to win WC...prestige, lifting a monkey of his back, a WC, pride, respect...and to a LCW being a professional baddy player (playing baddy is his fulltime job), big time $$$ in the bank and consider that LCW career is ending fast, if he doesn't win this time, next year will be tougher.

There is equal pressure on both. Winning the OG does not exempt LD from any pressure but in fact adds more pressure as he is the defending champion.

In fact, if LD loses, he knows tongues would wag. As a champ, he does not like to lose. He will not go into the match thinking that if he loses it will be ok, as some people would suggest.

[OneToughBirdie]

There is equal pressure on both. Winning the OG does not exempt LD from any pressure but in fact adds more pressure as he is the defending champion.

In fact, if LD loses, he knows tongues would wag. As a champ, he does not like to lose. He will not go into the match thinking that if he loses it will be ok, as some people would suggest.

Totally agree with you...Both are favs to win, therefore pressure apply to both. LD does not like loosing, he is expected to win (look at the polls and on past records where LD play majors, his concentration and intensity spikes) and that is a champion attitude, much like TH. This WC crown means a heck of a lot to both, so much is on the line, therefore, it is silly even to entertain the thought that either player lacks the desire to win...as Vince Lombardi once said "winning is not everything, but the only thing".

[X Ball]

Totally agree with you...Both are favs to win, therefore pressure apply to both. LD does not like loosing, he is expected to win (look at the polls and on past records where LD play majors, his concentration and intensity spikes) and that is a champion attitude, much like TH. This WC crown means a heck of a lot to both, so much is on the line, therefore, it is silly even to entertain the thought that either player lacks the desire to win...as Vince Lombardi once said "winning is not everything, but the only thing".

Yes, I think LD would play even more explosive badminton this time because he knows LCW will get him if he does not - like you say, a champ has got attitude. It is unthinkable that he will want to lose to LCW.

I am expecting a battle of the titanic. But of course, my view is bias as a fan of LCW. And that is why I think LCW will beat him:D

[SHLAU]

LYB said LD is better in every aspect than LCW if he plays to his standard. However I think LCW can take comfort from the fact that he is better than LD in every aspect when playing against CJ and Lee Yung Yil. Against them, LCW has 80% of winning the battles while LD has only, at most 50%, to beat the above opponents and he should tell LYB about that.:rolleyes:

[OneToughBirdie]

Totally agree with you...Both are favs to win, therefore pressure apply to both. LD does not like loosing, he is expected to win (look at the polls and on past records where LD play majors, his concentration and intensity spikes) and that is a champion attitude, much like TH. This WC crown means a heck of a lot to both, so much is on the line, therefore, it is silly even to entertain the thought that either player lacks the desire to win...as Vince Lombardi once said "winning is not everything, but the only thing".


Yes, I think LD would play even more explosive badminton this time because he knows LCW will get him if he does not - like you say, a champ has got attitude. It is unthinkable that he will want to lose to LCW.

I am expecting a battle of the titanic. But of course, my view is bias as a fan of LCW. And that is why I think LCW will beat him:D

We respect you as LCW greatest fan, nothing wrong and nothing to shy about...I would like Datuk to win too being an ex-MAS myself, nothing to apologize for being partisan towards MAS...I just wish for both to meet at the SF (should be the final actually) cos that is one game that I really want to see, for one player can set a record and the other player is playing very well and WR1. Hopefully both play their best. That would be one hell of a game to watch.

[X Ball]

LYB said LD is better in every aspect than LCW if he plays to his standard. However I think LCW can take comfort from the fact that he is better than LD in every aspect when playing against CJ and Lee Yung Yil. Against them, LCW has 80% of winning the battles while LD has only, at most 50%, to beat the above opponents and he should tell LYB about that.:rolleyes:

hahaha, LYB would not like to hear a squeek from anyone, especially from LD, that LCW can beat LD. And it is best LD doesn't, else LYB would try to antagonise LCW with another 'break your leg' call. LCW cannot handle that you know.:D

[X Ball]

We respect you as LCW greatest fan, nothing wrong and nothing to shy about...I would like Datuk to win too being an ex-MAS myself, nothing to apologize for being partisan towards MAS...I just wish for both to meet at the SF (should be the final actually) cos that is one game that I really want to see, for one player can set a record and the other player is playing very well and WR1. Hopefully both play their best. That would be one hell of a game to watch.

I must admit I am ashamedly an 'offline fan' - I have not even shaken his hands. :D:o

[Loh]

I must admit I am ashamedly an 'offline fan' - I have not even shaken his hands. :D:o

Come to think of it, I think I'm not wrong to say I'm ex-MAS too albeit for a short history of about two years. :eek: ;):D

But I've shaken LCW's hands, got his autograph and had a pic with him too! :rolleyes:

During my time, I was also ex-British subject (?):o, ex-JPN subject :eek: too. :o
What a mixed-up history.
But today I'm 44, full SIN. :):):)

[ctjcad]

Hahaha!! Good debater Loh:D:p XBall, you are not going to take this 'abuse' eh, time to strike back?:p
..a hype talk, just to juice up the impending showdown...X Ball is true to himself (a loyal LCW supporter) but this debate is still missing Pemuda's voice..Loh is a good sport, though, in entertaining X Ball..;)

[swwet_love]

NTM will meet LCW 2morrow...

[SHLAU]

Come to think of it, I think I'm not wrong to say I'm ex-MAS too albeit for a short history of about two years. :eek: ;):D

But I've shaken LCW's hands, got his autograph and had a pic with him too! :rolleyes:

During my time, I was also ex-British subject (?):o, ex-JPN subject :eek: too. :o
What a mixed-up history.
But today I'm 44, full SIN. :):):)


I suspect the intended reader of the above message is X-Ball only.:p

[LD rules!]

what court is LD playin on today

[baddd9413]

VOTE FOR LINDAN!

[hungle]

Nguyen Tien Minh, Vietnam will be!

[zhiquanlin]

what court is LD playin on today

Court 4
Can you see the live broadcast?

[ytyang]

Go Yu Hsing Hseieh !!
You got my vote, Move on to next round!!

[OneToughBirdie]

..a hype talk, just to juice up the impending showdown...X Ball is true to himself (a loyal LCW supporter) but this debate is still missing Pemuda's voice..Loh is a good sport, though, in entertaining X Ball..;)

I say that with tongue in cheek, so to speak...i copied that line from LOH as LOH used that line on me a while back...hehehe!!!:D:p

[george@chongwei]

Go Yu Hsing Hseieh !!
You got my vote, Move on to next round!!
Not sure if he has enough energy to sustain or not for tommorow as today's match and also a day before this he has been on court playing rubber set in over an hour agaisnt his opponent though.;)

[george@chongwei]

Park sung hwan is out of this tournament. So no chance for him in this category already..

[george@chongwei]

Whatever it is, it will be interesting to know the outcome of the match between lee chong wei and nguyen tien minh tomorrow. I hope i will be able to watch it on astro:cool:;)

[whack_d_net]

Whatever it is, it will be interesting to know the outcome of the match between lee chong wei and nguyen tien minh tomorrow. I hope i will be able to watch it on astro:cool:;)

Personally, what do you think:
Another nightmare or payback time?

[george@chongwei]

Personally, what do you think:
Another nightmare or payback time?
err, nightmare roller coaster ride for NTM:p and PAYBACK time for lee chong wei!:mad::mad::cool: :cool:

[ctjcad]

Personally, what do you think:
Another nightmare or payback time?

err, nightmare roller coaster ride for NTM:p and PAYBACK time for lee chong wei!:mad::mad::cool: :cool:
..i'd say LCW to win and will crush any of those pre-tourney hyped-up talks of a 2009 S'pore Open dejavu & how Nguyen Tien Minh is going to upset LCW again...:cool:

[ytyang]

Not sure if he has enough energy to sustain or not for tommorow as today's match and also a day before this he has been on court playing rubber set in over an hour agaisnt his opponent though.;)
If he can extend the match to 3rd game, he might outplay
TH.:) That's my hope.

[whack_d_net]

err, nightmare roller coaster ride for NTM:p and PAYBACK time for lee chong wei!:mad::mad::cool: :cool:

Hehehe ,-D
Obviously i asked the wrong person :cool:
(laughing manically while lookin at your screen name) :eek:

[Loh]

..i'd say LCW to win and will crush any of those pre-tourney hyped-up talks of a 2009 S'pore Open dejavu & how Nguyen Tien Minh is going to upset LCW again...:cool:

I hope NTM will have the last laugh...:D:D:D:D:D:D

[markchan]

I hope NTM will have the last laugh...:D:D:D:D:D:D

Yes, LOH, we all know you are hoping, u have been hoping for a very long time from reading yr past posts :D..u are his strongest supporter outside Vietnam :D..
LCW will need to play his 100% or otherwise ask LOH's permission...:D ..if he wanna get past NTM !

[Loh]

Yes, LOH, we all know you are hoping, u have been hoping for a very long time from reading yr past posts :D..u are his strongest supporter outside Vietnam :D..
LCW will need to play his 100% or otherwise ask LOH's permission...:D ..if he wanna get past NTM !

Aiyaa, give underdog NTM a chance lah! :D

[X Ball]

Alright Loh, tell us honestly how much you betted on NTM to beat LCW. Now be honest - no beating around the bush.:rolleyes::D

[george@chongwei]

Aiyaa, give underdog NTM a chance lah! :D
this is the wc la..no giving chance here and there please..just whack your birdie:mad:

[Loh]

this is the wc la..no giving chance here and there please..just whack your birdie:mad:

Of course I don't expect LCW to give chance to NTM, neither do I think NTM wants any chance from LCW.

In fact NTM must be well prepared for the worst from LCW who is seeking revenge for his mistake of underestimating him and not being well-prepared the last time. NTM will counter every stroke from LCW in the best possible way to outwit and outdo LCW, to go for every shot, to frustrate LCW, to test his patience which will grow thiner and thiner until it explodes in the wrong direction and to repeat his Singapore Open performance. So that his critics will forever hold their tongue and peace. :p

When I say give NTM a chance of course I mean to give him a chance to shine again, to repeat his giant-killer performance! After all he is still the underdog ... ;):cool::D

[Loh]

Alright Loh, tell us honestly how much you betted on NTM to beat LCW. Now be honest - no beating around the bush.:rolleyes::D

I admire NTM for his determination, dedication, discipline, dependence on his own resources, defensive qualities, deadly strokes, denying his opponents the luxury of space and time, do or die attitude and his defining moments during the Singapore Open! :)

I wouldn't want to exchange all these just for a mug of beer or a bunch of satays! :D

[X Ball]

I admire NTM for his determination, dedication, discipline, dependence on his own resources, defensive qualities, deadly strokes, denying his opponents the luxury of space and time, do or die attitude and his defining moments during the Singapore Open! :)

I wouldn't want to exchange all these just for a mug of beer or a bunch of satays! :D

Definitely Dogmatic Defence of NTM - hope he wins:D

[X Ball]

Of course I don't expect LCW to give chance to NTM, neither do I think NTM wants any chance from LCW.

In fact NTM must be well prepared for the worst from LCW who is seeking revenge for his mistake of underestimating him and not being well-prepared the last time. NTM will counter every stroke from LCW in the best possible way to outwit and outdo LCW, to go for every shot, to frustrate LCW, to test his patience which will grow thiner and thiner until it explodes in the wrong direction and to repeat his Singapore Open performance. So that his critics will forever hold their tongue and peace. :p

When I say give NTM a chance of course I mean to give him a chance to shine again, to repeat his giant-killer performance! After all he is still the underdog ... ;):cool::D


The way you sing of NTM, LCW is definitely the underdog.:rolleyes:

[Loh]

The way you sing of NTM, LCW is definitely the underdog.:rolleyes:

That's unbecoming of you Mr X Ball. Remember LCW is your 100%! :D

[Loh]

Definitely Dogmatic Defence of NTM - hope he wins:D

It will be "D"-day for LCW! :eek::eek::eek:

[george@chongwei]

I hope NTM will have the last laugh...:D:D:D:D:D:D
but dont laugh till his pants drop when waiting to retrieve chong wei's jump smash...:eek::D:D:D

[Loh]

but dont laugh till his pants drop when waiting to retrieve chong wei's jump smash...:eek::D:D:D

I think when LCW lost, your own pants will drop, not NTM's. :D

[george@chongwei]

I think when LCW lost, your own pants will drop, not NTM's. :D
Then if NTM being humbled by LCW, will your pants drop?:p

[Loh]

Then if NTM being humbled by LCW, will your pants drop?:p

It is you who brought about such things, so you must be capable of dropping your pants. ;)

NTM is the underdog, how much more can he be humbled? The reverse is very true if LCW should lose again to humble NTM. :D:D:D

[LD rules!]

what's the score with LD at the moment

[markchan]

It is you who brought about such things, so you must be capable of dropping your pants. ;)

NTM is the underdog, how much more can he be humbled? The reverse is very true if LCW should lose again to humble NTM. :D:D:D

Wa, unker Loh, like that you win everything oledi-lah. If NTM loses, it's ok becos he is underdog. If NTM wins, walau-eh, blow trumpet until no tomorrow liau....:D:D

[Loh]

Wa, unker Loh, like that you win everything oledi-lah. If NTM loses, it's ok becos he is underdog. If NTM wins, walau-eh, blow trumpet until no tomorrow liau....:D:D

Give chance lah. If really NTM can win over 100% LCW, blowing a little trumpet is not out of order. The man deserves it and more! :D

BTW you must have noticed how easily LD disposed of his opponent a while ago? :p

[LD rules!]

LD vs PG in tomorrows QF

[markchan]

Give chance lah. If really NTM can win over 100% LCW, blowing a little trumpet is not out of order. The man deserves it and more! :D

BTW you must have noticed how easily LD disposed of his opponent a while ago? :p

Yes, the dragon slayer DP was devoured tis time by the "dragon". :D
LD is looking very sharp. LD has to meet PG who has so far shown very good form. It will be another fantastic match. Very much looking forward to it.

[jasonmarc]

Yes, the dragon slayer DP was devoured tis time by the "dragon". :D
LD is looking very sharp. LD has to meet PG who has so far shown very good form. It will be another fantastic match. Very much looking forward to it.

So, PG suppose to be the under dog here.......I think uncle Loh is supporting PG.........to give under dog a chance........:D:D

[limsy]

LD winning this WC09 would make him 3x champion, a record and also, deny LCW from crowning WC, makes a joke of the WR, endorsement from LN and bonus, etc...therefore LD desire to win is unquestioned.
LCW of course is more eager to win WC...prestige, lifting a monkey of his back, a WC, pride, respect...and to a LCW being a professional baddy player (playing baddy is his fulltime job), big time $$$ in the bank and consider that LCW career is ending fast, if he doesn't win this time, next year will be tougher.

u sure play baddy is his fulltime job?:confused:
he have shop(s?);):p

[swwet_love]

waiting... the result will be soon

[swwet_love]

and i think that 50-50 for both

[george@chongwei]

uncle, how's your pants now?:D
still ok?:(

[george@chongwei]

21-13 21-17

that's the score of chong wei defeated NTM just now..what a sweet revenge..dont worry, uncle loh, NTM had already tried his best but obviously doesnt have any answer of some of the shots from Datuk.. lcw speed was amazing today..
obviously no chance given to him just now.. and i have to admit that this is a great match though;):) NTM did gave some stuborn fight earlier in the match. Luckily datuk knows how to play like a datuk this time:D:D

[ctjcad]

..for all that NTM will beat LCW hyped up talk, eh??..:eek:

I wonder what's going to be excuse now for NTM:
He was tired & didn't have time to recover & train cos he played in more tourneys than LCW?
NTM didn't have a coach? LCW had an extra training session than before the S'pore Open?? NTM didn't play in S'pore thus he had no support from Loh??

[OneToughBirdie]

u sure play baddy is his fulltime job?:confused:
he have shop(s?);):p

Without $$$ from baddy, the 'shop' will not exist, same for TBH 'shop' too;).....therefore Shop, datukship, BMW, 100-plus endorsement, houses, bank account, Miss Wong, etc. to even getting George@ChongWei to adopt LCW name and kickout George own family name:p:D, all comes from playing baddy fulltime.;)

[Wong8Egg]

..for all that NTM will beat LCW hyped up talk, eh??..:eek:

I wonder what's going to be excuse now for NTM:
He was tired & didn't have time to recover & train cos he played in more tourneys than LCW?
NTM didn't have a coach? LCW had an extra training session than before the S'pore Open?? NTM didn't play in S'pore thus he had no support from Loh??

NTM is being cheap and didn't take LCW to visit a local restaurant. :p

[swwet_love]

poor NTM, he does not have coach, and LCW have 2 coach....unfortunately

[markchan]

poor NTM, he does not have coach, and LCW have 2 coach....unfortunately

Aww.....swwety....u believed he didnt have a coach?:rolleyes: but then again, if the winner is determined by the number of coaches that he has, then every player will have hundreds of coaches and CHN team can have thousands just based on their population..hehe :D

[jasonmarc]

Yes, maybe this time NTM didnt go to train in Singapore for 1 week prior WC......

[X Ball]

..for all that NTM will beat LCW hyped up talk, eh??..:eek:

I wonder what's going to be excuse now for NTM:
He was tired & didn't have time to recover & train cos he played in more tourneys than LCW?
NTM didn't have a coach? LCW had an extra training session than before the S'pore Open?? NTM didn't play in S'pore thus he had no support from Loh??


Please don't encourage Loh. He has a bag of excuses every time. I can't stand it when he comes up with his funny reasons.:D

[george@chongwei]

Without $$$ from baddy, the 'shop' will not exist, same for TBH 'shop' too;).....therefore Shop, datukship, BMW, 100-plus endorsement, houses, bank account, Miss Wong, etc. to even getting George@ChongWei to adopt LCW name and kickout George own family name:p:D, all comes from playing baddy fulltime.;)
so, anymore to add?;)

..for all that NTM will beat LCW hyped up talk, eh??..:eek:

I wonder what's going to be excuse now for NTM:
He was tired & didn't have time to recover & train cos he played in more tourneys than LCW?
NTM didn't have a coach? LCW had an extra training session than before the S'pore Open?? NTM didn't play in S'pore thus he had no support from Loh??
NTM will be saying: its all because of that uncle loh's fault..:crying::p:D

[eRa@에라]

too many losses for China today, does this mean LD will face the same fate? oh drifit, I wish your prediction could come true d_b

[X Ball]

It will be written in history that LCW's jinx was Sony Kuncoro.

Go ahead - have your potshots now. :)

[jasonmarc]

It will be written in history that LCW's jinx was Sony Kuncoro.

Go ahead - have your potshots now. :)

:D...Ya, waiting.........it sure happens...;)

[X Ball]

:D...Ya, waiting.........it sure happens...;)

Kuncoro is one of the bests in drop shots -- blew me away;)

[eRa@에라]

I was really experiencing goose bumps throughout the match *sigh* x1000 ... Sony did a great job though... really reminds me of the Swiss Open 2009 final... if only chong wei didn't give up easily... the body language shows it all... bummer....

[drifit]

:D
LCW is out. again.

[X Ball]

I don't feel bad at all when I reflect back because LCW is unlucky to meet Kuncoro. Kuncoro is a real party pooper for LCW.

[eaglehelang]

I was really experiencing goose bumps throughout the match *sigh* x1000 ... Sony did a great job though... really reminds me of the Swiss Open 2009 final... if only chong wei didn't give up easily... the body language shows it all... bummer....

Wah Era, you really into this match, I no bother, only see result, ohhh lose this time <yawn>. ;)

[eRa@에라]

I don't feel bad at all when I reflect back because LCW is unlucky to meet Kuncoro. Kuncoro is a real party pooper for LCW.


and Sony's successfully added another mental block to his never ending list...:o

[nokh88]

Kuncoro is one of the bests in drop shots -- blew me away;)

Chong Wei's racquet's tension was not right !!! All his net shots didn't cross !!

[syrence5261]

congwei did change his racquet during the play. btw chen jin will win this championship.

[george@chongwei]

congwei did change his racquet during the play. btw chen jin will win this championship.
yep, that's not because his string broke, but just to get better gripping of his racket becoz of the sweat or he wants a higher tension strung racket. :cool:anyway, welcome to the forum!:)

[victor16]

ok now ..what is the best probabilty in MS final ... all indonesien final or all china final ?

[eaglehelang]

All China finals : Highest votes vs 4th highest votes

[sting1988]

As expected...Lin Dan should find this harder than the one with BCL in 2006.

[eRa@에라]

Wah Era, you really into this match, I no bother, only see result, ohhh lose this time <yawn>. ;)


of course la... CHN vs CHN is no interest to me too boring...

[george@chongwei]

let's wait and see whether bc will jinx lin dan tommorow or not..imo, the percentage is very high though:rolleyes:

[eaglehelang]

Now it's confirmed, this year only LD is immune to BC poll jinx.

[Loh]

let's wait and see whether bc will jinx lin dan tommorow or not..imo, the percentage is very high though:rolleyes:

LCW was the one who was jinxed by someone. Definitely not Super Dan the WR5 who won the highest votes and repaid those who had faith in him.
A record 3 WC is definitely hard to beat. :rolleyes:

[chris-ccc]

Wah Era, you really into this match, I no bother, only see result, ohhh lose this time <yawn>. ;)






of course la... CHN vs CHN is no interest to me too boring...



.
Actually I was expecting LD to 'give' this year's MS title to CJ. But it wasn't the case.
Maybe LD might 'give' it for CJ next year. ;););)
.

[suetyan]

.
Actually I was expecting LD to 'give' this year's MS title to CJ. But it wasn't the case.
Maybe LD might 'give' it for CJ next year. ;););)
.
Before LD can 'give' it to CJ next year, it depends on CJ whether he can let LD to 'give' him or not. :p

[george@chongwei]

LCW was the one who was jinxed by someone. Definitely not Super Dan the WR5 who won the highest votes and repaid those who had faith in him.
A record 3 WC is definitely hard to beat. :rolleyes:
lol, it seems like lin dan's ghost is too strong that BC can't manage to jinx him..:D

[george@chongwei]

anyway, congrats to the well deserved 3 times world champion, LIN DAN!:)

[cooler]

lol, it seems like lin dan's ghost is too strong that BC can't manage to jinx him..:D
not bad huh?
even tennis great federer ( lost to Tsonga) and golf great tiger wood (lost to Yang) got jinxed last week:p

[Loh]

I don't feel bad at all when I reflect back because LCW is unlucky to meet Kuncoro. Kuncoro is a real party pooper for LCW.

If LCW is unlucky to meet Kuncoro, it must have been much worse for LCW if he should meet LD the conqueror! Probably worse than what LCW had received from his master in the Beijing Olympics! :rolleyes:


LCW was the one who was jinxed by someone. Definitely not Super Dan the WR5 who won the highest votes and repaid those who had faith in him.
A record 3 WC is definitely hard to beat. :rolleyes:


lol, it seems like lin dan's ghost is too strong that BC can't manage to jinx him..:D

You have twisted the facts. BC voted LD to be the MS winner of WC not to jinx him or his ghost. LD responded up to expectation with his victory and is very much alive but poor chongwei was almost dead after his defeat by Sony, despite his crying to console himself! :rolleyes:

[Loh]

I don't feel bad at all when I reflect back because LCW is unlucky to meet Kuncoro. Kuncoro is a real party pooper for LCW.

If LCW is unlucky to meet Kuncoro, it must have been much worse for LCW if he should meet LD the conqueror! Probably worse than what LCW had received from his master in the Beijing Olympics! :rolleyes:


LCW was the one who was jinxed by someone. Definitely not Super Dan the WR5 who won the highest votes and repaid those who had faith in him.

A record 3 WC is definitely hard to beat. :rolleyes:


lol, it seems like lin dan's ghost is too strong that BC can't manage to jinx him..:D

You have twisted the facts. BC voted LD to be the MS winner of WC not to jinx him or his ghost. LD responded up to expectation with his victory and is very much alive but poor chongwei was almost dead after his defeat by Sony, despite his crying to console himself! :rolleyes:

[X Ball]

If LCW is unlucky to meet Kuncoro, it must have been much worse for LCW if he should meet LD the conqueror! Probably worse than what LCW had received from his master in the Beijing Olympics! :rolleyes:


You have twisted the facts. BC voted LD to be the MS winner of WC not to jinx him or his ghost. LD responded up to expectation with his victory and is very much alive but poor chongwei was almost dead after his defeat by Sony, despite his crying to console himself! :rolleyes:


How low can you go Mr Loh ? :rolleyes:

[Loh]

How low can you go Mr Loh ? :rolleyes:

Haha, Mr Crystal Ball, I know you are completely shattered with LCW's recent defeat by SDK in the QF, something you never thought could happen because you've been bragging that "LCW will win the WC 100%" after beating LD in the SF.

But it was not meant to be. It was Sony who won the privilege of playing with Super Dan in the SF although he lost in the end. To his credit, Sony took a game off LD to confirm his win over LCW was no fluke.

In defeat learn to be more gracious, Crystal Ball. :D

[X Ball]

Haha, Mr Crystal Ball, I know you are completely shattered with LCW's recent defeat by SDK in the QF, something you never thought could happen because you've been bragging that "LCW will win the WC 100%" after beating LD in the SF.

But it was not meant to be. It was Sony who won the privilege of playing with Super Dan in the SF although he lost in the end. To his credit, Sony took a game off LD to confirm his win over LCW was no fluke.

In defeat learn to be more gracious, Crystal Ball. :D

In case you forgot to read the parts where I posted, I was magnanimous with my comments on Sony. Also, I said LD is incomparable in this era.

So why are you so non gracious and continues to harp on crystal balls shattering, etc. Huh !:mad: