Who will win the Men's Doubles title at the 2009 Hyderabad World Championships? :)

..this one, probably the most unpredictable and most competitive of all the events..Any one pair can surprise us...

I'm banking on LYD & JJS to at least reach the Final Rd from their half and either FHF & CY or the defending WC champs, MK & HS, from the other half...KKK & TBH might have to duke it out with their compatriots before getting a shot against the LYD & FHF..

In any rate, i think the MD Final match could be a spectacular one to watch..get those video recorders ready & clean...:cool:

hehe,i dream on this,koo/tan

tricky department. i roll the dice, ok, go for CY/FHF

hehe,i dream on this,koo/tan
either will get food poisoning. better hope for the Zakry and Fairuz. :D

either will get food poisoning. better hope for the Zakry and Fairuz. :D

nah,i never put hope on someone that did sooooooooooo many mistakes;)

..i notice the sole vote for Markis Kido & Hendra Setiawan...hmm, let me guess, that vote must be from non other than their die-hard BC supporter, badMania...:confused:;)

..i notice the sole vote for Markis Kido & Hendra Setiawan...hmm, let me guess, that vote must be from non other than their die-hard BC supporter, badMania...:confused:;)

i think yes
he on9 now:cool:

In no particular orders:
JJS/LYD, CY/FHF, MK/HS, KKK/TBH
.....
MD event always kinda like thriller movies, and full of suspence
Every top pairs have been defeated each others, and vice versa
But strangely, they also have some kind of unique "incompatibility" issues towards certain pairs
.....
For long shots, DEN and ENG pair might surprise us
But i guess, those 4 aforementioned pairs still have the biggest chance to grab the gold
.....
Aaaand, after the roulletes rolls, i pick JJS/LYD
Heh ,-D

The best and most evenly matched event, featuring the big 4 (JJS/LYD, CY/FHF, MK/HS, KKK/TBH) and a host of strong contenders esp from Europe. Too hard to call, so like may others, will roll the dice and...

I vote for LYD/JJS, last WC they failed, this year they will never failed again :D

I voted LYD/JJS............

They are the most stable pair now,......good in all rounds.....

Wahh ... LYD!?
I sure there are many LYD's dan out there that not vote yet

hehe,i dream on this,koo/tan
ah well, i will keep on "dreaming".

of course KiNdra....absolutely

i want to pick GUO / XU ,,, but no option for them... just OTHERS ( not specific on them) so i pick CAI YUN / FU HAIFENG

i vote for feng yun! (fu hai feng & cai yun) haha:rolleyes:

I vote for LYD/JJS, last WC they failed, this year they will never failed again :D

As a CHN die hard-supporters, I thought you're gonna vote for CY/FHF
Hehehe, LOL ,-)

As a CHN die hard-supporters, I thought you're gonna vote for CY/FHF
Hehehe, LOL ,-)
Hmm, I don't vote CY/FHF because of some reasons. Not because of I don't like them, I like them also. Because of some insider information (P&C), I have decided not to vote them :(

ah, another vote for the koreans, i would have voted for MK/HS but it still doesn't look as if MK is back to full fitness.

Hmm, I don't vote CY/FHF because of some reasons. Not because of I don't like them, I like them also. Because of some insider information (P&C), I have decided not to vote them :(

So it's bcoz some Private (or personal?, Hehe) & Confidential info, eh?
Well i guess you wouldn't share them here?
Okay lets put them aside :)
But why you turn into JJS/LYD side, then?
How bout CHn MD back-up pairs?
Don't have enough faith on them yet? or what?

sure are Jung Jae-Sung & Lee Yong-Dae!!!

So it's bcoz some Private (or personal?, Hehe) & Confidential info, eh?
Well i guess you wouldn't share them here?
Okay lets put them aside :)
But why you turn into JJS/LYD side, then?
How bout CHn MD back-up pairs?
Don't have enough faith on them yet? or what?
haha, it is not I don't want to share, it is just because it is P&C, so I can't share. If it is not P&C, I'm sure will share it here. Sorry :( China MD back-up pairs, I have no hope on them, lol :D Although Chai Biao/Liu Xiaolong bt Cai Yun/Fu Haifeng few times before in the internal competition, but I think they still lack of experience playing in such a big tournament. Compared to MK/HS, LYD/JJS, and etc, they still have a lot to learn from them :D He Hanbin/Shen Ye, Guo Zhengdong/Xu Chen are just costars :D:p

haha, it is not I don't want to share, it is just because it is P&C, so I can't share. If it is not P&C, I'm sure will share it here. Sorry :( China MD back-up pairs, I have no hope on them, lol :D Although Chai Biao/Liu Xiaolong bt Cai Yun/Fu Haifeng few times before in the internal competition, but I think they still lack of experience playing in such a big tournament. Compared to MK/HS, LYD/JJS, and etc, they still have a lot to learn from them :D He Hanbin/Shen Ye, Guo Zhengdong/Xu Chen are just costars :D:p

P & C !......:eek: Hmmmmm.............sounds good for MK/HS.........:D:D

i believe this department will surely a thriller:);)
i expect many mouth watering and 'kan chiong' clash.;)
btw, jjs and lyd of korean certainly deserves my vote this time.

i am surprise that the most competitive md event had the least post? and attention?

..not the least no. of votes..This thread trails only the MS poll..

But yes, a bit of controversy to spice up this thread wouldn't be a bad idea..:cool:

haha, it is not I don't want to share, it is just because it is P&C, so I can't share. If it is not P&C, I'm sure will share it here. Sorry :( China MD back-up pairs, I have no hope on them, lol :D Although Chai Biao/Liu Xiaolong bt Cai Yun/Fu Haifeng few times before in the internal competition, but I think they still lack of experience playing in such a big tournament. Compared to MK/HS, LYD/JJS, and etc, they still have a lot to learn from them :D He Hanbin/Shen Ye, Guo Zhengdong/Xu Chen are just costars :D:p

Hehe okay okay, i understand ,-)
I'm just teasing u a lil, LOL ,-P
.....
Hmm very good analysis, btw
But (even its true), those certain pairs maybe dislike being called just as costars, haha ,-D

But yes, a bit of controversy to spice up this thread wouldn't be a bad idea..:cool:

Those P & C info looks suspicious
Haha ,-D

For the helpfulness to the discussion:

Updated stats after BWF 2009 INA Open:

http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1193830#post1193830



58034

Wow look at those Head 2 Head record! ,-)
Thanks narnia :cool:
....
Hmm
(still digesting the info)

It still depends on which LYD/JJS will be coming to the championships. They were badly beaten in S'pore before bouncing back in Jakarta.

Hmm, I don't vote CY/FHF because of some reasons. Not because of I don't like them, I like them also. Because of some insider information (P&C), I have decided not to vote them :(

Suetyan, then Guo/Xie leh? Cannot spring surprise kah? Of course, they are under "others" category, who knows, maybe the new Japanese MD, K & K can surprise us also :D

Very hard category to predict. 5 pairs had equal chance to win. Indonesia,Korea,China,Malaysia and Denmark each had one pair that can win this title.

LYD/LHJ have a tough draw in XD, LYB might instruct
XS/XZB/ZB to send all heavy smashes toward LYD to
wear him down as much as possible.
Tired LYD will be difficult to win MD unless exit early in XD.

Suetyan, then Guo/Xie leh? Cannot spring surprise kah? Of course, they are under "others" category, who knows, maybe the new Japanese MD, K & K can surprise us also :D
Guo/Xie?? :eek: :rolleyes: XZB is now focusing in XD, he is not playing MD with GZD. So, GZD is paired with XC to play in WC :)

Guo/Xie?? :eek: :rolleyes: XZB is now focusing in XD, he is not playing MD with GZD. So, GZD is paired with XC to play in WC :)
Ooops, sorry, I havent look properly at the WC MD draw. Aug 10 like long time more to come for me :cool:

For the helpfulness to the discussion:



58034

Wow, thanks. You just saved million of my brain cells. :D

i am a die-hard fan for my favorite and of course i will choose.....KKK/TBH...saw all the post vote for LYD/JJS...even thought i am dreaming for KKK/TBH to win...hmm...mayb my dream will come true?let see:)

MY PREDICTION QUARTER FINALS :

Markis Kido [1] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=396051B5-CD7B-4E98-A111-5A927631C0C1&player=122)
Hendra Setiawan (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=396051B5-CD7B-4E98-A111-5A927631C0C1&player=123)
VS
Yonathan Suryatama Dasuki [11] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=396051B5-CD7B-4E98-A111-5A927631C0C1&player=143)
Rian Sukmawan (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=396051B5-CD7B-4E98-A111-5A927631C0C1&player=142)


Lars Paaske [3] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=396051B5-CD7B-4E98-A111-5A927631C0C1&player=128)
Jonas Rasmussen (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=396051B5-CD7B-4E98-A111-5A927631C0C1&player=129)
VS
Yun Cai [5] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=396051B5-CD7B-4E98-A111-5A927631C0C1&player=135)
Haifeng Fu (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=396051B5-CD7B-4E98-A111-5A927631C0C1&player=134)


Mohammad Ahsan [7] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=396051B5-CD7B-4E98-A111-5A927631C0C1&player=137)
Bona Septano (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=396051B5-CD7B-4E98-A111-5A927631C0C1&player=136)
VS
Jae Sung Jung [4] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=396051B5-CD7B-4E98-A111-5A927631C0C1&player=132)
Yong Dae Lee (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=396051B5-CD7B-4E98-A111-5A927631C0C1&player=133)


Shintaro Ikeda (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=396051B5-CD7B-4E98-A111-5A927631C0C1&player=147)
Shuichi Sakamoto (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=396051B5-CD7B-4E98-A111-5A927631C0C1&player=146)
VS
Kien Keat Koo [2] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=396051B5-CD7B-4E98-A111-5A927631C0C1&player=126)
Boon Heong Tan (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=396051B5-CD7B-4E98-A111-5A927631C0C1&player=127)


SEMI FINALS :

Markis Kido [1] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=396051B5-CD7B-4E98-A111-5A927631C0C1&player=122)
Hendra Setiawan (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=396051B5-CD7B-4E98-A111-5A927631C0C1&player=123)
VS
Yun Cai [5] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=396051B5-CD7B-4E98-A111-5A927631C0C1&player=135)
Haifeng Fu (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=396051B5-CD7B-4E98-A111-5A927631C0C1&player=134)


Jae Sung Jung [4] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=396051B5-CD7B-4E98-A111-5A927631C0C1&player=132)
Yong Dae Lee (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=396051B5-CD7B-4E98-A111-5A927631C0C1&player=133)
VS
Kien Keat Koo [2] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=396051B5-CD7B-4E98-A111-5A927631C0C1&player=126)
Boon Heong Tan (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=396051B5-CD7B-4E98-A111-5A927631C0C1&player=127)

FINALS

Markis Kido [1] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=396051B5-CD7B-4E98-A111-5A927631C0C1&player=122)
Hendra Setiawan (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=396051B5-CD7B-4E98-A111-5A927631C0C1&player=123)
VS
Jae Sung Jung [4] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=396051B5-CD7B-4E98-A111-5A927631C0C1&player=132)
Yong Dae Lee (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=396051B5-CD7B-4E98-A111-5A927631C0C1&player=133)


THE WINNERS IS : Markis Kido & (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=396051B5-CD7B-4E98-A111-5A927631C0C1&player=122)Hendra Setiawan (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=396051B5-CD7B-4E98-A111-5A927631C0C1&player=123)

Hmmm......A repeat of WC 2007 Final....argh..LYD/JJS failed again...hehehehe

..the voting race between Cai Yun & Fu Haifeng vs. LYD & JJS is fueled by the many die-hard BC fans and supporters of those players, esp. CY, FHF & LYD..

Camon, camon CY & FuHF fans, just 7 more votes to go to tie and 8 more to overtake the lead..:cool:

I vote for Kido/Setiawan of course ! :D

I hope INA at least bring one title back home

..the voting race between Cai Yun & Fu Haifeng vs. LYD & JJS is fueled by the many die-hard BC fans and supporters of those players, esp. CY, FHF & LYD..

Camon, camon CY & FuHF fans, just 7 more votes to go to tie and 8 more to overtake the lead..:cool:

I am quite surprised that kkk/tbh is not a top 3 here. :eek: :p.

Go go LYD for the cuteness!

..some or a few of those KKK & TBH's supporters have abandoned ship and are now in LYD's, CY's & FHF's bandwagon..:o

..some or a few of those KKK & TBH's supporters have abandoned ship and are now in LYD's, CY's & FHF's bandwagon..:o

Yes, i think KKK/TBH's past few tournaments performances have disappointed most of us....they were inconsistant, unstable and KKK's uninspired fancy shots,.....their's not serious attitude during the match and etcs.......:(:(

They are considered lucky if they can past QF challenge.............:(

This would be one title that the Chinese team would have the least confidence in winning. Voted for the Korean pair.

sure win for JJS/LYD...

My vote goes to Koreans LYD/JJS despite JJS recent inactivity. :p
Somehow, my vote cannot be registered in this poll. Wonder whether there is any technical hitch? :confused:

Yes, i think KKK/TBH's past few tournaments performances have disappointed most of us....they were inconsistant, unstable and KKK's uninspired fancy shots,.....their's not serious attitude during the match and etcs.......:(:(

They are considered lucky if they can past QF challenge.............:(


..confidence further eroded by their loss to CCM/CCE in the MAS mini olympic games ...sigh :crying:

I don't think FuCai will be the winner... Even I hope They can be the winner.... I think the winner will be Korean pair....

vote for JJS/LYD
i like LYD..

yeah, JJS/LYD of korea are the favourite pair to win the wc now:cool:
cool.

Wow....LYD/JJS and CY/FHF just separated by 3 votes now.............

Wow....LYD/JJS and CY/FHF just separated by 3 votes now.............

Wow,...now only 1 vote separated this two......:D

Oh.........only 3 votes separated MK/HS and KKK/TBH........interesting...:p

..should CY & FHF get the most votes to win the MD title, if only to avoid BC's jinx..;)

Oh no
I didn't see LYD and JJS until after I voted otherwise I would have voted for them

Now the top pairs of KOR, Jung Jae Sung/Lee Yong Dae (#4) and CHN, Cai Yun/Fu Haifeng (#5) are even, each with 56 votes (29.6% of total votes).

INA's Beijing Olympic Champion pair, Markis Kido/Hedra Setiawan (#1), received only 35 votes (18.5%). They have to meet CHN in the SF.

Most disappointing are MAS's Koo Kien Keat/Tan Boon Heong (#2) who garnered only 28 votes (14.8%), barely half of what JJS/LYD and CY/FHF secured so far. KKK/TBH are scheduled to meet JJS/LYD in the SF and they will have to play well above their so-called "mini Malaysia Olympics" standards to even reach the SF and beat the KOR duo.

It would appear that the MD title would be the most hotly contested and the final outcome could be an unexpected surprise! :eek::D:p

He he, that's because I just voted for Jung/Lee.

He he, that's because I just voted for Jung/Lee.

Hey, your vote should go to KKK/TBH to boost their confidence a bit lah! :p

From, the votes...........its obvious that most Mas fan did not vote for KKK/TBH...........a lot of them go for LYD/JJS.........and of course most Chn fans still sticked to FHF/CY and the same goes to INA fans for MK/HS.....this is just what i think......

Support Cai/Fu forever!

Wow....LYD/JJS and CY/FHF just separated by 3 votes now.............
...
It would appear that the MD title would be the most hotly contested and the final outcome could be an unexpected surprise! :eek::D:p
..the only poll that's also hotly contested; it's basically neck & neck, even-steven for both pairs...:cool:

Looking toward to the Beijing Olympics last year, the KOR team was also cheered a lot and was most expected to get the Gold. And for the WC this year, as many other strong teams around the world are preparing hard, it's really difficult to predict the final result.

So, I have only 60% of confidence that the team will get the 2009 WC title.

:)

Vote For Lee Yong Dae & Jung Jae Sung................

hopefully can be a winner!!!!

Hey, your vote should go to KKK/TBH to boost their confidence a bit lah! :p
I guess i am now supporting my fav pair ..alone. sad, huh?

I guess i am now supporting my fav pair ..alone. sad, huh?

:D.....feeling lonely..and sad......? Be not....because this is just a vote for pair u think will win...........not the pair u actually support.........

I pick LYD/JJS to win but i still support Mas pairs...............:p:p

Sorry for MK/HS, they will not participate in coming WC.............

http://www.antaranews.com/berita/1249404441/kido-hendra-absen-di-kejuaraan-dunia

Sigh...as widely expected, Kido's knees have still yet to recover :mad:

I think it's about time Hendra Setiawan find a new partner.....

With their withdrawal, top half will be own by CY/FHF, it enhanced the chances for CY/FHF to win WC for the 2nd time............!

I guess i am now supporting my fav pair ..alone. sad, huh?

Don't be riduciulous I am also supporting KKK/TBH
And anyway it will be their fault when KKK/TBH smash to victory:D

He he, that's because I just voted for Jung/Lee.

Hey, your vote should go to KKK/TBH to boost their confidence a bit lah! :p
agree...where's your support to koo/tan? abedeng..surely u want the malaysian pair to win against jung/lee if they really meets in the semis right?:D:cool:

Sigh...as widely expected, Kido's knees have still yet to recover :mad:

I think it's about time Hendra Setiawan find a new partner.....
I think this time kido's qithdrawal from this wc is not his knee..its his blood pressure i think..due to the seafood he ate last week?:confused:;)

wow, to my surprise.
the recent super series winner nathan robertson and anthony clark have just 2 votes.;)

and what absolutely caught my attention now is Michal Logosz & Robert Mateusiak of Poland have 4 votes now..(wonder who voted for them)..
unbelievable:)

I think this time kido's qithdrawal from this wc is not his knee..its his blood pressure i think..due to the seafood he ate last week?:confused:;)

correct.. kido's blood pressure was 180/220 :o and passed out after training :o.. that's due to the seafood he ate at alvent's house

correct.. kido's blood pressure was 180/220 :o and passed out after training :o.. that's due to the seafood he ate at alvent's house

A world class sportman like MK has high blood pressure....How...? :confused:

A world class sportman like MK has high blood pressure....How...? :confused:
jason, not NO one is PERFECT in this world la.;)

Jung Jae Sung & Lee Yong Dae is a good Double pair... Their Offensive is very powerful. But i still hope KKK & TBH will win :D Gambate :D

correct.. kido's blood pressure was 180/220 :o and passed out after training :o.. that's due to the seafood he ate at alvent's house
180/220?! :eek::eek: So high? His family got history of High blood pressure I suppose.

i wonder what kind of shelfish it was so i can eat them and call in sick at work:):)

i wonder what kind of shelfish it was so i can eat them and call in sick at work:):)
So you'll do it on purpose to skip ur work, then? :D
Actually that's a brilliant way to get some holiday, though
Hehehe :p
.....
I feel bad for MK
But i think this is so stupid (not him, but rather the situation)
I wonder what HS thinks and feels bout this
(another reason to find new partner, maybe)
Upz Upz Kiddin :cool:
Hope MK get well soon :)

MK doesn`t do well few past tournament... hope he did well in this WC

MK doesn`t do well few past tournament... hope he did well in this WC

If you are talking about,...MK...Maria Kristin......u r in wrong thread.........:D

If your are talking about MK..Markis Kido.....sorry he will not competeting in this WC.........:(:(

In addition now, the 3 members who voted for Clark/Robertson will be sad. Cant even see them in action as Team England has withdrawn. 1st the OG champs & defending WC champ have to withdraw, now England, next? <sigh>

Hope no more:(:(

Why are they withdrawing? Is it because of safety issues?

Why are they withdrawing? Is it because of safety issues?
That's right......

the poll will be closing in 50 minutes time:D:D

Does the table means that MK/HS never beat JJS/LYD?? Wooow.... Is that true??

Does the table means that MK/HS never beat JJS/LYD?? Wooow.... Is that true??

They had beaten the KOR team in 2007 WC Final. But ever since 2008, they have met three times the Koreans and lost all the matches as indicated in the table. :)

The poll is now closed and the results show that
Most people voted for LYD/JJS followed by the CY/FH and KKK/TBH

I Support Caiyun/fuhaifeng

LYD/JJS 28:26 XC/GZD in the 2nd set? very high score :D

2 malaysians in the MD category..it will be EXTREMELY tough for them next in the semi final..
fuzzy agaisnt cai/fu while koo/tan vs jung/lee
wow!

2 malaysians in the MD category..it will be EXTREMELY tough for them next in the semi final..
fuzzy agaisnt cai/fu while koo/tan vs jung/lee
wow!
final; fuzzy pair vs kkk/tbh.
how is that?

final; fuzzy pair vs kkk/tbh.
how is that?

Seems very unlikely:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
But they better do that to ensure first WC ever for MAS
But to be honest lots of ppl must be expecting LYD/JJS vs CY/FHF finale,
Though MAS pair may surprise 'em today :eek: :eek:
Well, let's wait and see :cool:

final; fuzzy pair vs kkk/tbh.
how is that?
Its very unlikely though.. will u treat everyone here in bc some satay kajang if 2 mas pairs advance to the final?:D is it a yes or not?:p:p

Wow ... MD should be the hardest one to predict, however this is the most 'accurate' polls (compared to others) because the top 2 results are playing in the final

So, the jinx continues in MD :o

Yup, this year the BC poll jinx swept thru 4 dept. Only LD is immune it seems.
The 2nd highest votes won the title

So, the jinx continues in MD :o
Yup, this year the BC poll jinx swept thru 4 dept. Only LD is immune it seems.
The 2nd highest votes won the title
..the BC Poll jinx/curse never happened in the MD event, in the WC, until this yr. The BC Poll of "Who will win etc.", for the WC and Olympics, was started in 2006, if not mistaken. The polls were skipped in 2007 for some reason.
So, this yr, only the MS event avoided the jinx/curse.

Overall, in 15 different BC Poll events (spanning over the 2006 WC, 2008 OG & this yr's WC), only 2 prediction came out true. A 13% correct prediction.:p

See:
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1214430#post1214430 (post #45) for reference..

Yup, this year the BC poll jinx swept thru 4 dept. Only LD is immune it seems.
The 2nd highest votes won the title
i voted CY/FHF. :o
please do tell them to thank me. :p:D

.
..........

Overall, in 15 different BC Poll events (spanning over the 2006 WC, 2008 OG & this yr's WC), only 2 prediction came out true. A 13% correct prediction.:p



That's why lor it's called the BC Polls Jinx cos happen so often.:p

That's why lor it's called the BC Polls Jinx cos happen so often.:p
..i certainly feel sorry for those BC Poll "Who will win etc." winners for next yr's WC edition..:crying:

haha,so ah,next time,bcer will be more clever,they vote those that they dont hope to win in the poll mah^^

congrats to fhf/cy for winning the titanic thrilling battle!:)

applause to them!:):):)

congrats to fhf/cy for winning the titanic thrilling battle!:)

applause to them!:):):)


Sorry Sir, I disagree with you. Thumbs down to them. CY used underhand tactic to distract JJS. Lousy sportsman.

Sorry Sir, I disagree with you. Thumbs down to them. CY used underhand tactic to distract JJS. Lousy sportsman.

definition of a whiner and sore loser lol