How many of the current world No 1 will be world champion by 16th Aug?

[AlanY]

My guess is NONE, just can't see it.

[limsy]

we should have a poll here^^
uncle oldhand
and made it sticky

[PoLLuX]

My guess is NONE, just can't see it.

I 99.99% agree :p:D

[jasonmarc]

MS LCW WR1 .......No

WS ZM WR1 ........Dont think so

WD CEH/WPT WR1.......very unlikely

MD MK/HS WR1...........but LYD/JJS just too strong

XD LYD/LHJ WR1.........probably, but depends on LHJ...

My guess is 0 or 1

[AlanY]

This is how I voted for the winners in the polls.

MS - Lin Dan is head and shoulder above the rest and a big match’s player.

WS - Xie Xing Fang, watched her recent final against Zhou Mi that she lost. She is still the best around in terms of both technically and tactically. The only problem is the lost of motivation thus form since she lost the Olympics Gold, although some would say that she won the Silver. Anyway, to win the World Championship is one way to pick herself up and back on track of her excellent career.

MD - Anthony Clark & Nathan Robertson, just gut feeling and would be last chance saloon for them.

WD - DU Jing & YU Yang, the more experienced pair over their younger teammates.

XD – it will be between ZHENG Bo/MA Jin & HE Hanbin/YU Yang. I’ve picked HHB/YY again for their big matches experience.

[suetyan]

I 99.99% agree :p:D
I 100% agree :D:p I guess NONE of the world no. 1 will win :D

[Ajaib]

I 100% agree :D:p I guess NONE of the world no. 1 will win :D
I pray for this.....

[abedeng]

I agree wholeheartedly, it is up to the World No 1s to prove us wrong ..... wakakakaka

MS - World No 1 will be upstaged by Olympic Champ, who in turn may be "comprehensively defeated" by his World No 2 team mate

WS - World No 1 might not have enough steam to destroy the juggernaults from her home country

MD - World No 1 still on 3 good knees, not enough knees to outgun the opposition

WD - World No 1 make an early exit against recovering Olympic Champs

XD - World No 1 seeking the magic formula to beat their bogeys

[george@chongwei]

Let's wait and see whether all the world number 1 in those 5 categories can prove u guys wrong:rolleyes:

[Oldhand]

[...]MS - World No 1 will be upstaged by Olympic Champ, who in turn may be "comprehensively defeated" by his World No 2 team mate[...]
It seems no one believes in Bao Chunlai anymore.
Um, I wouldn't leave him out of these MS equations ;)

[george@chongwei]

It seems no one believes in Bao Chunlai anymore.
Um, I wouldn't leave him out of these MS equations ;)
So did you voted for him in the who will become ms champion polling thread created by you?;) don't forget, he's still the Plan B:cool:

[jasonmarc]

So did you voted for him in the who will become ms champion polling thread created by you?;) don't forget, he's still the Plan B:cool:

Do u think master Li will ask LD to give way to BCL in round 16..........?? ;):rolleyes:

[george@chongwei]

Do u think master Li will ask LD to give way to BCL in round 16..........?? ;):rolleyes:
Let's wait and see the plan B;)
as the trailer already out just few minutes ago:D

[ctjcad]

..to ask:
How many of the leading poll getters will be World Champion(s) by 16th Aug?..
;):cool:

[Ajaib]

..to ask:
How many of the leading poll getters will be World Champion(s) by 16th Aug?..
;):cool:
i think 4.... except for MD......

[CLELY]

..to ask:
How many of the leading poll getters will be World Champion(s) by 16th Aug?..
;):cool:

Yeah, sounds interesting. CHN shuttlers dominate top-position of WC polling except MD. Will it describe 2009 World Championships outcome?!

[ctjcad]

i think 4.... except for MD......
...positively, certainly, definitely, unquestionably, absolutely, unmistakably, no doubt about it, 120% sure that will happen???..:confused: :)

[limsy]

i think bc poll always jinx the top vote leader?:)
no?:confused:

[ctjcad]

..at least that's a good sign, riiiiiiite????..;):);):);)

[limsy]

..at least that's a good sign, riiiiiiite????..;):);):);)

and then if it happen,someone complain on luck:cool:

[Ajaib]

and then if it happen,someone complain on luck:cool:
not on luck but on unforced error's:cool::cool::cool:

[whack_d_net]

not on luck but on unforced error's:cool::cool::cool:

We can say the same thing about bad call, drift, poisonous food, BCers jinx, etc ,-D
LOL :cool:

[george@chongwei]

We can say the same thing about bad call, drift, poisonous food, BCers jinx, etc ,-D
LOL :cool:
All that are included in the term- LUCK;):cool:

[whack_d_net]

All that are included in the term- LUCK;):cool:

Btw are those luck including: opponents generousity, match fixing and conspiracy theory, also?
Haha :rolleyes:
......
Yeah it's all depends on luck
For example some of you may complain that:
if LCW win, he just LUCKy
if he lose, better LUCK next time :cool:
Just kidding ,-D
.....
Anyway, good draws might be considered as LUCK too, eh? :cool:

[drifit]

..at least that's a good sign, riiiiiiite????..;):);):);)
come-on !!!! LEE CHONG WEI!!!!!!!!!!
bring back the championship!!!!!!!!!

[AlanY]

come-on !!!! LEE CHONG WEI!!!!!!!!!!
bring back the championship!!!!!!!!!
bring back? how do you bring back something that you never had before?

[jasonmarc]

bring back? how do you bring back something that you never had before?

What drifit means was 'LCW bring the championship back home to malaysia'......;) i think only us malaysian can understand that.....! :D:D:D

[drifit]

my bad. thinking of something short to shout.
how about;
come-on..... LEE CHONG WEI!!!!
bring home the championship!!!!
:D

[george@chongwei]

Btw are those luck including: opponents generousity, match fixing and conspiracy theory, also?
Haha :rolleyes:
......
Yeah it's all depends on luck
For example some of you may complain that:
if LCW win, he just LUCKy
if he lose, better LUCK next time :cool:
Just kidding ,-D
.....
Anyway, good draws might be considered as LUCK too, eh? :cool:
yes indeed..all of that is LUCK:cool:

[tommy_bun]

I 99.99% agree :p:D


I 100% agree :D:p I guess NONE of the world no. 1 will win :D


I pray for this.....
So Do I..........:D:D:D:p:p:p

[freelast]

Let me look into details for each event and their no1s:

MS: Lee CW, Survey says 20.77% winning WC, 2nd in the list. I think it's too low, should be around 30% simply because no one else, including Lin Dan, has a better form than LCW currently;

WS: Zhou Mi, Survey says 9.49% winning WC, 5th in the list. I think it's a way too low, should be around 30%;

MD: , MK/HS, Survey says 17.79% winning WC, 3rd, I agree;

WD: CEH/WPT, Survey says 9.65% winning WC, 5th. I agree;

XD: LYD/LHJ, Survey says 28.57% winning WC, I think it's too high, should be around 20% at most because their bad draw position (even though they are ranked #1);

Now let's see the possibility that none of the world number 1 winning (according to the survey on this forum):

(1-20.77%)X(1-9.49%)X(1-17.79%)X(1-9.65%)X(1-28.57%)=38%

the chance for all #1 winning is 1-38%=62%

so, if looking at each individual event, even the biggest winning chance from XD is only 28%. WS and WD both are just 9%, but together, they have 62% chance winning at least 1 title.

According to my assumption, both Lee CW and Zhou are underrated by the survey, the chance for those number 1s winning at least one title should be over 70%.

[ye333]

How likely are the World No.1's becoming World Champion 09:

MK/HS > ZM > LCW > LHJ/LYD > WPT/CEH.

In MD,

JJS/LYD >= MK/HS >= FHF/CY > others.


My guess is NONE, just can't see it.

[apu4life]

LCW, LHJ/LYD to win WC only, the rest = other ppl
KKK/TBH to win MD, Saina to win WS and LHJ pairing WD

[extremenanopowe]

Some how my feeling is a Malaysian will win this. Lets see. ;)

[LD rules!]

...positively, certainly, definitely, unquestionably, absolutely, unmistakably, no doubt about it, 120% sure that will happen???..:confused: :)

I reckon only LYD and LHJ will win at the WC09

[abedeng]

I reckon only LYD and LHJ will win at the WC09

You mean, LYD/LHJ has the best chance. I agree with you there, but they still have the Zheng Bo/Ma Jin puzzle to solve (unless ZB/MJ lose to other pairs).

Next best is Kido/Setiawan, subject to condition of Kido's knee injury.

[X Ball]

Only 1 I am sure -- LCW ! He is just going to be too good for everyone else.

Bookmark this that I said it.

[SHLAU]

“Her skills are amazing. She likes to toy with her opponents and break their rhythm of play,” said Mew Choo.
“In one of the tournaments, she took a 14-0 lead against me. It almost broke my resolve.
“Many do not like to play against her. She can retrieve any kinds of shots"

Quoted from "The Star" for comments on ZM by MC.

Don't know whether anybody will change their minds after reading the above.:rolleyes:

[volcom]

China to win the WS

[2cents]

#1 is not the one must win the title;
#1 is not even the one supposed to win the title.
#1 is supposed to be a strong competitor.

Lee CW is a strong competitor. So are the other #1s. That's it. Let me see the chance for each #1

Lee CW got a tough draw, his chance =
80% (Nguyen)*80%(Sony)*50%(LD)*70%(CJ) = 22%

Zhou Mi's chance =
90% (WMC or Goto) * 70%(XXF) * 45%(WYH) * 60%(final)=17%

MK/HS got an easy draw, their chance =
90% (q-final) * 45% (CY/FHF) * 40% (final) = 16%

CEH/WPT's chance =
10% (DJ/YY) * 10% (ZTT/ZYW) * 10% (WXL/MJ) = 0.1%

LYD/LHJ's draw is the toughest! their chance =
65% (XC/ZYL) * 60% (XZB/ZYW) * 20% (ZB/MJ) * 60% (final) = 4%

From these analysis, we know, LCW has the biggest chance, even though he's got a tough draw.

Zhou Mi and MK/HS have pretty good chance also. They could win if lucky enough.

But a title for CEH/WPT is mission impossible.

I know most people here believe LYD/LHJ's the only #1 capable of winning the title. But stats tell me it's unlikely. They have to fight Xu Chen/Zhao Yunlei in the 3rd round, while XC/ZYL were the German open champion and LYD/LHJ were just the semifinalists. The 4th round component Xie ZB/Zhang YW are not easy to handle either. The 3rd round Zheng Bo/Ma Jin has a perfect record against them (N:0) here N is >=6 ?

[abedeng]

Interesting stats, 2cents. Quite well presented.

But shouldn't we also put a weightage on injury (especially for Kido)?

[markchan]

[quote=2cents;1220935
CEH/WPT's chance =
10% (DJ/YY) * 10% (ZTT/ZYW) * 10% (WXL/MJ) = 0.1%

But a title for CEH/WPT is mission impossible.[/quote]

Haha.....looks like CEH/WPT will need to "break" the Great wall of China 3x :crying: if they wanna win the title......and that's really like mission impossible :eek:

Good luck CEH/WPT :). Hold on to this tagline...."IMPOSSIBLE IS NOTHING " :D.

[suetyan]

Haha.....looks like CEH/WPT will need to "break" the Great wall of China 3x :crying: if they wanna win the title......and that's really like mission impossible :eek:

Good luck CEH/WPT :). Hold on to this tagline...."IMPOSSIBLE IS NOTHING " :D.
I think you used the wrong tagline :D:p You should use "MALAYSIA BOLEH". Otherwise, they will be blur :p

[RedShuttle]

# % * % * % * ...
Interesting work 2cents.

A couple comments:

1. the actual chance should be higher because your calculation assumes the strongest opponents will get there. In fact, they may not.

2. to put the numbers in perspective, LD's chance (using your method) is 80% (BCL) * 75% (PG) * 50% (LCW) * 70% (CJ) = 21%, less than LCW's 22%.

[jasonmarc]

Interesting work 2cents.

A couple comments:

1. the actual chance should be higher because your calculation assumes the strongest opponents will get there. In fact, they may not.

2. to put the numbers in perspective, LD's chance (using your method) is 80% (BCL) * 75% (PG) * 50% (LCW) * 70% (CJ) = 21%, less than LCW's 22%.

I think against CJ.......the % could be either way......10% or 90%.....for LD,

IF its 10%.............LD will have even less chance to win.....

IF its 90%.............LD has higher chance than LCW.............

Its all depends on whether LD manage to get thru to Final......

[RedShuttle]

Actually, I think LD does have a better chance because he is 65% against LCW in my opinion.

Having said that, LD does have a much tougher draw before reaching the "Final" against LCW. I stand by LD's 70% against CJ.

[jasonmarc]

Yes, me too, LD vs LCW....LD has higher chance like 65%..........

Against BCL 80%, PG 75%, LCW 65%, CJ 70%......u call this a 'tougher draw'...?

[RedShuttle]

Yes, me too, LD vs LCW....LD has higher chance like 65%..........

Against BCL 80%, PG 75%, LCW 65%, CJ 70%......u call this a 'tougher draw'...?
In my comments to 2cents, the main point is to put LCW's 22% in perspective. I use 80% BCL and 75% PG so it would not seem that I artificially lower LD's chance to make my point. Those percentages are on the high side.

My best gestimate of LD's chance would be 75% * 70% * 65% * 70% = 24%. It is still less than 1/3.

[Loh]

MS LCW WR1 .......No

WS ZM WR1 ........Dont think so

WD CEH/WPT WR1.......very unlikely

MD MK/HS WR1...........but LYD/JJS just too strong

XD LYD/LHJ WR1.........probably, but depends on LHJ...

My guess is 0 or 1

Well I have voted veteran WS ZM to win to live up to her WR1 ranking as she has performed quite well recently and has shown she could match the younger players in fitness and skill despite her heavier weight. :D

[Loh]

#1 is not the one must win the title;
#1 is not even the one supposed to win the title.
#1 is supposed to be a strong competitor.

Lee CW is a strong competitor. So are the other #1s. That's it. Let me see the chance for each #1

Lee CW got a tough draw, his chance =
80% (Nguyen)*80%(Sony)*50%(LD)*70%(CJ) = 22%

Zhou Mi's chance =
90% (WMC or Goto) * 70%(XXF) * 45%(WYH) * 60%(final)=17%

MK/HS got an easy draw, their chance =
90% (q-final) * 45% (CY/FHF) * 40% (final) = 16%

CEH/WPT's chance =
10% (DJ/YY) * 10% (ZTT/ZYW) * 10% (WXL/MJ) = 0.1%

LYD/LHJ's draw is the toughest! their chance =
65% (XC/ZYL) * 60% (XZB/ZYW) * 20% (ZB/MJ) * 60% (final) = 4%

From these analysis, we know, LCW has the biggest chance, even though he's got a tough draw.

Zhou Mi and MK/HS have pretty good chance also. They could win if lucky enough.

But a title for CEH/WPT is mission impossible.

I know most people here believe LYD/LHJ's the only #1 capable of winning the title. But stats tell me it's unlikely. They have to fight Xu Chen/Zhao Yunlei in the 3rd round, while XC/ZYL were the German open champion and LYD/LHJ were just the semifinalists. The 4th round component Xie ZB/Zhang YW are not easy to handle either. The 3rd round Zheng Bo/Ma Jin has a perfect record against them (N:0) here N is >=6 ?

I don't know how you arrived at your final percentage scores but basing on them, then every WR1 has little or no chance of winning the WC title. Your best score is LCW's with 22%, which when interpreted roughly means he has only 22% chance of winning, not even 50%! Hope I have not viewed this wrongly. ;)

From your scores, if we analyse LCW's matches individually, he can beat 3 rivals quite easily, scoring 70-80% possibilities. Only LD stands in his way and it could be touch and go 50%. If we interprete it this way, LCW should have 50% chance to win the WC title not just 22%. :D

[Loh]

Yes, me too, LD vs LCW....LD has higher chance like 65%..........

Against BCL 80%, PG 75%, LCW 65%, CJ 70%......u call this a 'tougher draw'...?

I'm afraid X Ball will strongly disagree with you. To him LCW has 100% of winning no matter what exotic method or formula you choose. :p:p:p

[LD rules!]

If u look at the MS draw LDs is not to bad as in QF potentialy PG who let's face it is past his sell buy date meaning past his best
Providing he is motivated and concentrating against LCW he will win no problem and potentialy CJ or TH in final

[bradmyster]

How about we give up on creating statistics and theorys about the players and just wait 2 days too see what unfolds ;)

Goodluck to all competitors including the World #1s who have the added pressure on their shoulders.

[X Ball]

I'm afraid X Ball will strongly disagree with you. To him LCW has 100% of winning no matter what exotic method or formula you choose. :p:p:p

You are darn right because mine is not based on any probability calculation. It is based what I know about the player - his slow rise and his dedication. If he was any less, I would not have commented so strongly about him, like what you do.:p

[Loh]

How about we give up on creating statistics and theorys about the players and just wait 2 days too see what unfolds ;)

Goodluck to all competitors including the World #1s who have the added pressure on their shoulders.

Then it will be less interesting and we have wasted the opportunity of filling up the space in this forum. :( The intense buildup of BC fans with their partial and diverse views of their favourite players' chances and counter punches right up to the actual days of competition can only added to the fun and interest. :D

[jasonmarc]

For sure now...WR1 MD will not win World Champion for 2009...........was annouced that MK/HS will not participate in India ........

[sting1988]

seriously? MK/HS withdrew?

[bradmyster]

Then it will be less interesting and we have wasted the opportunity of filling up the space in this forum. :( The intense buildup of BC fans with their partial and diverse views of their favourite players' chances and counter punches right up to the actual days of competition can only added to the fun and interest. :D

Oh fine then keep the fun alive!!!!! :P

[george@chongwei]

seriously? MK/HS withdrew?
Yes, they withdrew from the WC.

[LD rules!]

I belive due to high blood presure instead of knee problems

[laivc]

I 100% agree :D:p I guess NONE of the world no. 1 will win :D

Does this make a mockery of the current system of world players ranking?:D

[limsy]

so,who will be the 1st wr 1 player/pair to say bye bye 1st?
which round?:)

[yen_saw]

Instead of how many WR#1 players to win, it should be who among the current WR#1 has the best chance to win:p

[george@chongwei]

all current world number 1 are still in the tournament..We shall see which player/pairs who is current world number 1 are going to be casualties as early as the 3rd round;):eek:

[zhiquanlin]

I Think Only Ws And Xd Has The Possiblity. But Not Too Much. So Maybe None Or One

[george@chongwei]

Until today, the round of 32, all the world number 1 still survives..
We shall see whether it will be the same as today when the competition enters round of 16 tomorrow..:)

[Loh]

Until today, the round of 32, all the world number 1 still survives..
We shall see whether it will be the same as today when the competition enters round of 16 tomorrow..:)

Many world #1's reputation is a stake today, particularly that of LCW's! :eek:

[jasonmarc]

Many world #1's reputation is a stake today, particularly that of LCW's! :eek:

Hope he could survive........:p

This WR1 will face very tough opponents from now on.....all have beaten him,

1. NTM.........just beaten him last month in Singapore Open :cool:
2. SDK.........beaten him in last WC QF. :cool:
3. LD...........beaten him in recent Sudirman Cup :cool:
4. or PG.......beaten him in Korean Open Final.........:cool:

Its really hard for him as WR1.........Hope he can survive....:p:p

[Loh]

Hope he could survive........:p

This WR1 will face very tough opponents from now on.....all have beaten him,

1. NTM.........just beaten him last month in Singapore Open :cool:
2. SDK.........beaten him in last WC QF. :cool:
3. LD...........beaten him in recent Sudirman Cup :cool:
4. or PG.......beaten him in Korean Open Final.........:cool:

Its really hard for him as WR1.........Hope he can survive....:p:p

Wah, many hurdles to clear man! But I think the first one is really demanding although he is the lowest ranked among the lot! :eek:

[george@chongwei]

Wah, many hurdles to clear man! But I think the first one is really demanding although he is the lowest ranked among the lot! :eek:
we'll see, we'll see.
i'm sure datuk will play a wonderful badminton today:D

[george@chongwei]

Many world #1's reputation is a stake today, particularly that of LCW's! :eek:
that's right.. we will see a (nothing to lose mental)NTM vs LCW;)(must win to revenge mental:mad:) match today;)

[suetyan]

......which are Chin Ee Hui and Wong Pei Tty. Let's see who will be the second. :D

[ctjcad]

..you are so fast ar??..I bet you were already waiting in this thread ready to punch in those buttons on your keyboard...

I think the next WR #1 to go down the drain and will follow his teammates is none other than Datuk LCW....or Zhou Mi...

[limsy]

congrates to be a 1st failed top seed

[cheeyf]

......which are Chin Ee Hui and Wong Pei Tty. Let's see who will be the second. :D

not surprising as jap r OG silver medalist. even wpt/ceh say it will be a tough match.too bad they have d same fate as LCW in WC 07 when he lost at R3 to sony:(

[jasonmarc]

not surprising as jap r OG silver medalist. even wpt/ceh say it will be a tough match.too bad they have d same fate as LCW in WC 07 when he lost at R3 to sony:(

Cheeyf,...they are OG Semifinalist only ...not OG silver medalist......;)

Cheer up, cheeyf....hope CEH/WPT will bounce back soon...:p

[cheeyf]

sory typo
OG semis
this jap pair hv gd reputation of beating top seeds
even reiko/kumiko beat YW/ZJW b4 too
hehe
yea,they will bounce back.thx

[drifit]

..you are so fast ar??..I bet you were already waiting in this thread ready to punch in those buttons on your keyboard...

I think the next WR #1 to go down the drain and will follow his teammates is none other than Datuk LCW....or Zhou Mi...
can i start cursing ctjcad?

[PoLLuX]

congrates to be a 1st failed top seed

I thought Mk/HS was the first causality and lost to "seafood" :p;)

[cheeyf]

btw no upsets list this time? whr's limsy?
hehe
so many upset
park SH n Boonsak n im v surprise that WYH lost to Juliane

[suetyan]

I thought Mk/HS was the first causality and lost to "seafood" :p;)
they are not participated in WC09, so they are not considered the first to fall :D

[suetyan]

Cheeyf,...they are OG Semifinalist only ...not OG silver medalist......;)

Cheer up, cheeyf....hope CEH/WPT will bounce back soon...:p
yaya, the japanese are the semi-finalist, they lost to ZYW/WYL :)

[george@chongwei]

can i start cursing ctjcad?
yes, you can..i support u here:cool::D

[george@chongwei]

that's right.. we will see a (nothing to lose mental)NTM vs LCW;)(must win to revenge mental:mad:) match today;)
and the winner is the must win to revenge mental today..;) with the score Chong Wei Lee [1] (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/player.aspx?id=396051B5-CD7B-4E98-A111-5A927631C0C1&player=1)http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/MAS.gif[MAS] (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/matches.aspx?id=396051B5-CD7B-4E98-A111-5A927631C0C1&c=MAS)-http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/VIE.gif[VIE] (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/matches.aspx?id=396051B5-CD7B-4E98-A111-5A927631C0C1&c=VIE)Tien Minh Nguyen [14] (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/player.aspx?id=396051B5-CD7B-4E98-A111-5A927631C0C1&player=13)21-13 21-17 ntm surely will remember this 'great' badminton lesson.:p

[george@chongwei]

so end of the road for wr1 in wd category, chin/wong..the 1st wr1 to bow out from the tournament as early as round 3.:(

[Jonc108]

anyone have any idea???

[LD rules!]

At least 1
LD won but not sure about the rest

[2cents]

How many prevailing WR#1 won WC last time? and last last time? ???

only three:

Lin Dan
Cai Yun / Fu Haifeng
Gao Ling / Huang Shui

Well, this is good enough, because no other raked place has higher winning rate.

[Armor_tec_14]

At least 1
LD won but not sure about the rest


Lin Dan isnt number 1 though. LCW is.

[ctjcad]

anyone have any idea???
for the 2007 WC:
Lin Dan

for the 2006 WC:
Fu Haifeng & Cai Yun
Gao Ling & Huang Sui

[ctjcad]

can i start cursing ctjcad?
..but that'll make it even more quicker for Datuk LCW to fall...;)

[LD rules!]

Lin Dan isnt number 1 though. LCW is.

no I was talking about this year I was replying to what jonc108 said asking who was #1 and won in 2007 WC
I thought LD was #1 in 2007 was he not

[Armor_tec_14]

no I was talking about what jonc108 said asking who was #1 and won in 2007 WC
I thought LD was #1 in 2007 was he not

Oh i get you now :P I read it wrong :)
Yep I think he was.

[LD rules!]

Oh i get you now :P I read it wrong :)
Yep I think he was.

it's ok
I can't remember who else won in 07 though

[Armor_tec_14]

it's ok
I can't remember who else won in 07 though

I know everyone who won in 2007. Lin Dan, Nova Widianto/Lilyana Natsir, Zhu Lin, Yang Wei/Zhang Jiewen and Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan.
Im not sure of their rankings at the time though

[LD rules!]

kl kl
I can't remember the rankings then either

[limsy]

btw no upsets list this time? whr's limsy?
hehe
so many upset
park SH n Boonsak n im v surprise that WYH lost to Juliane

nah,i retired from that long time ago;)

[cute_tbh]

as hurtful as it may sound, even for me..i think...none..huhu

[george@chongwei]

So who will be the next ??:D
what do you think? they will be facing their much awaited real test next;)

[suetyan]

So who will be the next ??:D
what do you think? they will be facing their much awaited real test next;)
ZM is the second WR#1 to lose :D

[LD rules!]

well only LCW and LHJ/LYD left that are current #1

[eaglehelang]

ZM is the second WR#1 to lose :D
<Sigh> I voted aunty ZM to win.:o


nah,i retired from that long time ago;)
Hehe, me too, now both of us can relax relax. Still got do rough draft, send to you after WC finish ok? ;);)

[eaglehelang]

well only LCW and LHJ/LYD left that are current #1

Yup, since MK/Hendra already withdrawn, MD dept not counted this year.

[limsy]

Hehe, me too, now both of us can relax relax. Still got do rough draft, send to you after WC finish ok? ;);)

sure,thanks kak^^

anyway,lcw didnt look good.;)

[AlanY]

oh well, 4 down 1 to go. actually the KOR XD has a good chance to withhold the honour of being world no 1.

[suetyan]

LCW is the 3rd one to lose :D

[sudirman]

WOW not a big surprise though, SONY has beaten most of the top guns before.

[george@chongwei]

lol, so only left lyd and lhj:D

[LD rules!]

LHJ/LYD are only world #1 left
And chance have increased as ZB/MJ lost

[eRa@에라]

sure,thanks kak^^

anyway,lcw didnt look good.;)

eh limsy, you know lydia is further study in OUM? got news from an insider.. does this means she'll be out of tourney for long?:eek:

[george@chongwei]

if that's true, this maybe because she tinks badminton is not her priority anymore,,..furthermore, i dont see her having any good prospect in badminton anymore...good girl..go study;)

[cheeyf]

eh limsy, you know lydia is further study in OUM? got news from an insider.. does this means she'll be out of tourney for long?:eek:

i guess is part time study. just a guess tho. her name is in macau open. sad lcw lost la

[cheeyf]

if that's true, this maybe because she tinks badminton is not her priority anymore,,..furthermore, i dont see her having any good prospect in badminton anymore...good girl..go study;)

dont think so,player cn play n study as well. hui lin is doin tat n if im not mistaken boonsak oso rite n he has completed his law degree

[suetyan]

Thomas Laybourn/Kamilla Rytter Juhl bt Lee Yong Dae/Lee Hyo Jung 18-21, 21-9, 21-19
All world no. 1 failed to win a title in Hyderbad :D

[ctjcad]

..this must be the first time ever, if not in a long time, in a WC event, that all the WR#1s fail to be world champions...

[AlanY]

..this must be the first time ever, if not in a long time, in a WC event, that all the WR#1s fail to be world champions...
and not even one in the finals!!

[eaglehelang]

and not even one in the finals!!

Oops, ya lah. All fallen, 1 withdrawn bf tourney started

[yen_saw]

This again show wr #1 means nothing as the ranking system doesn't reflect the true depth of the players.

[george@chongwei]

again, bc jinx all the world number 1!:D:D

[hcpoirot]

The answer is zero.

Even if we replace Markis/Hendra who withdraw before WC begin with KKK/TBH (rank number 2 ), the answer still zero .

But also we did not had any suprise here in WC finals. All the finalist are at least in top 8 in their world ranking.

[george@chongwei]

nahhh...dont be so sure..kido/setiawan can beat anyone if they are in the top form:cool:
they are just not in this tournament..if not, whoah..the md category will be more CRACKING:)

[hcpoirot]

nahhh...dont be so sure..kido/setiawan can beat anyone if they are in the top form:cool:
they are just not in this tournament..if not, whoah..the md category will be more CRACKING:)

But we are discussing about this WC and not other events.

Maybe if the thread title change into "How many of the FORMER world no 1 will be world champion by 16th Aug?" It will be more accurate for this final result. :D

LD,XXF,CY/FHF, ZYW(with WYL at that time), Nova/Butet were former world number 1. I forgot if JJS/LYD ever reached number 1 or not?

[ctjcad]

- What george@chongwei was trying to point out is the notion that if MK & HS didn't withdraw and actually participated in this WC, they might still survive and go all the way to win the title. Unfortunately, we won't know the answer.
- As for your query abt whether LYD & JJS have ever reached WR #1, yes, as mentioned in this popular thread, below.;) See starting post #106:
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=64242&page=7

[george@chongwei]

thanks for telling it out to hcpoirot..that's what i wanted to say;)

[Chibot]

After LYD/LHJ defeat in Semifinal, the answer is : none of them

[limsy]

we have the answer finally,a good year for u doesnt mean u can be good in one tournament

[LD rules!]

I guess the answer to the question then was no
LOL :D

[laivc]

Just has a thought that China deliberately "arrange" their players' world ranking to their favour inorder to dominate major tournaments. For eg, LD will always be arranged in such a way that he will definitely face the world No.1 LCW in the semi-final, with his head to head records against LCW, he is 80 to 90% to win his matches with LCW; and Chen Jin, who I think can beat anyone now except for LCW and LD will be arranged to be world no.2, so he can avoid LCW at least until the final, and hope that LD can beat LCW off in the semi-final. Even if LD cannot finish LCW in the semi-final, LD will exhaust LCW out before Chen Jin plays LCW in the final. How to arrange? With China players' levels of play now and look at the current system of allocating points to the players who plays the most tournment (aka LCW), they can selectively place different players at different tournanments to score strategic points for the world placings. With this plan, China have 80-90% chance of having at least 1 player in the final and 70-80% chance of having both players in the final. Very smart way to play around the world ranking system...you don't have to be world no.1 to be the best in the world philosophy to rule world badminton. :cool:

[ThePlayer]

Just has a thought that China deliberately "arrange" their players' world ranking to their favour inorder to dominate major tournaments. For eg, LD will always be arranged in such a way that he will definitely face the world No.1 LCW in the semi-final, with his head to head records against LCW, he is 80 to 90% to win his matches with LCW; and Chen Jin, who I think can beat anyone now except for LCW and LD will be arranged to be world no.2, so he can avoid LCW at least until the final, and hope that LD can beat LCW off in the semi-final. Even if LD cannot finish LCW in the semi-final, LD will exhaust LCW out before Chen Jin plays LCW in the final. How to arrange? With China players' levels of play now and look at the current system of allocating points to the players who plays the most tournment (aka LCW), they can selectively place different players at different tournanments to score strategic points for the world placings. With this plan, China have 80-90% chance of having at least 1 player in the final and 70-80% chance of having both players in the final. Very smart way to play around the world ranking system...you don't have to be world no.1 to be the best in the world philosophy to rule world badminton. :cool:

What can i say about this? B.S.

[Loh]

What can i say about this? B.S.

And also LCW can manipulate his own ranking by NOT PARTICIPATING in as many SS tournaments to avoid being World No.1, like what LD did. :D

[jasonmarc]

I think Chn didnt manipulated the WR for LD............They just adjusted LD schedule so LD will peak at the right time for major event......this is crucial for these players. LCW is just another example who played almost all SS and GP.....and try to be as consistant as possible at all time.......but just cant make an impact for a break thru. The more often u play internationally the more easier for others to study your play and will be easier for other to defeat you. I think its time for LCW and Misbun to rethink and reschedule future program........try something new....

[george@chongwei]

And also LCW can manipulate his own ranking by NOT PARTICIPATING in as many SS tournaments to avoid being World No.1, like what LD did. :D
that's what we called sportsmanships, as a professional badminton players, he everytime tried to participate as many ss tournaments as he can as part of promoting the ss tournaments and also to bing more fans to the stadium to watch...not like others, keep training hard just for a bigger tournament and will withdraw last minute in a certain tournament and caused fans who had bought tickets much earlier heart broken..:(