Dionysisus Hayom Rumbaka-Indonesia Rising Star !!

[fathonezic]

Hello badminton addicts...

currently, i'm just watching at Hayom Rumbaka. I hope he can be the real rising star for Indonesia. Recently, he won Australia Open GP by beating Chan Yan Kit and Andrew Smith. I hope, he can do well in NZ Open GP.

What about your opinion ?? Currently, he is in 74th world rank. and after Australia, i think he will be in top 60 world rank...

[aulia]

Hmm... he really deserved this thread? hehe..:):)

Maybe someone can tell us more about him.

But yeah, hope he can do better next tourney and becoming top MS. :):)

[fathonezic]

Currently, hayom is still 20 yo and will be 21 yo someday in this year. he has got 2 international title : Banuinvest international and australian open gp. he also became runner up in vietnam challenge. all he got in this year. we can not also neglect some national circuit titles. in 2-3 months, he made a several good performances. 1st in banuinvest int., 2nd in vietnam int challenge, 2nd in jakarta open, and 1st in australian open GP.

[ctjcad]

Hello badminton addicts...

currently, i'm just watching at Hayom Rumbaka. I hope he can be the real rising star for Indonesia. Recently, he won Australia Open GP by beating Chan Yan Kit and Andrew Smith. I hope, he can do well in NZ Open GP.

What about your opinion ?? Currently, he is in 74th world rank. and after Australia, i think he will be in top 60 world rank...
..it's good he just won the Australia Open GP. But, we'll see what he's got in the next 2 or so yrs.
Btw, remember also Andre K. Tedjono, who used to be called the "giant killer" and supposedly INA's next rising star?? if not mistaken, he also won the New Zealand Open in 2007??....do you know what happened to him??..:confused:

[Dreamzz]

that last hurdle is always the hardest. you do sometimes get prodigies like Taufik, but they are few and far between. more often you get players who suddenly make a breakthrough, like LD or LCW and then dominate the game for a while until the new young star makes a breakthrough.

[CLELY]

..it's good he just won the Australia Open GP. But, we'll see what he's got in the next 2 or so yrs.


Yup, agree with u. Still premature to call one player is the rising star based on 1 title from GP level tourney when all top-names are absent. Let's see what will happen to Hayom in future...

[ardhitya.y]

Maria Kristin had been called the rising star after won the bronze medal.

I hope this is our real new rising star! A lot of rising stars but only a few become the real stars.

[ctjcad]

..a question mark or two or three or four after the end of the thread title...DHR-Indonesia Rising Star????..;)

[cooler]

..a question mark or two or three or four after the end of the thread title...DHR-Indonesia Rising Star????..;)
china doesn't stop at conquering making widgets, china can spit out a custom-made player to beat any foreign players:p kekeke

[Fidget]

With a name like Dionysius he should be able to hold his own with the badminton "gods". :)
http://www.theoi.com/Olympios/Dionysos.html
(and hold his own in the bar afterwards)

[Ajaib]

this image ??? face is a woman,,, but body is a man....
btw He lost in New Zealand GP

[**KZ**]

i that his real name or his scientific name?

[Fidget]

this image ??? face is a woman,,, but body is a man....
btw He lost in New Zealand GP
You are right. That is a feminine sort of depiction. Sorry.

Dionysius was a male god from Greek mythology. God of wine, and good times. Mostly a friendly guy, but he had a dark side too. He was the god who gave King Midas the "gift/curse" of the golden touch.

His Latin name in Roman times was Bacchus. And nowadays just about every city in North America (and I'll bet Europe) has a "Bacchus restaurant" promising good food and wine.

So the real mystery for a good BC investigator is to find out how an Indonesian shuttler got his name.:):confused::)

[Krisna]

..it's good he just won the Australia Open GP. But, we'll see what he's got in the next 2 or so yrs.
Btw, remember also Andre K. Tedjono, who used to be called the "giant killer" and supposedly INA's next rising star?? if not mistaken, he also won the New Zealand Open in 2007??....do you know what happened to him??..:confused:

Andre is now ranked #17-21 [yo-yo-ing around that level]... He is now in the SF of NZ Open... ;)

[ctjcad]

...
So the real mystery for a good BC investigator is to find out how an Indonesian shuttler got his name.:):confused::)
..will you bestow the "gift/curse" of the golden touch to anyone who can solve the mystery??..:confused:

Andre is now ranked #17-21 [yo-yo-ing around that level] ... He is now in the SF of NZ Open... ;)
..yep..everyone notice that??..;)

[Ajaib]

You are right. That is a feminine sort of depiction. Sorry.

Dionysius was a male god from Greek mythology. God of wine, and good times. Mostly a friendly guy, but he had a dark side too. He was the god who gave King Midas the "gift/curse" of the golden touch.

His Latin name in Roman times was Bacchus. And nowadays just about every city in North America (and I'll bet Europe) has a "Bacchus restaurant" promising good food and wine.

So the real mystery for a good BC investigator is to find out how an Indonesian shuttler got his name.:):confused::)

i guess that he is Roman Catholic....
in my place i had a lot of friends name dionisius... it must be a name of saint or Holy people in Catholic Roman Church....

if not true i'm sorry...

[Fidget]

You could very well be right. :) The name has certainly been in use for a long time. Wikkipedia has all kinds of people through history with that name: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dionysius
Here is one who was a monk: http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/05010b.htm

[fathonezic]

Again, Hayom prove his worth to be tne next Indonesian star.
he won Indonesia International Challenge.
This title is his 4th titles this year.
This year, Hi has won Banuinvest International Challenge, Tarakan National Circuit, Australian Open Grand Prix, and Indonesia International Challenge. Go Hayom !!

[jug8man]

I agree. Very impressive. He didn't encounter any resistance in all the rounds straight to he title.

Seen his match on youtube. impressive

[ctjcad]

..after this title, what is he going to show us next??..How will he do in GP Gold and SS type tourneys??..:confused:

[fathonezic]

I think it's not the most important. He is still 20 yo. What we can hope from him is keeping his good work for GP tourneys at least for the most one year. Gaining experience, winning mentality, type of play, type of strategy and others. After that, just believe that he can do further in higher type tourneys...

[george@chongwei]

Dionysisus- his 1st name really impresses me;):cool:

[ctjcad]

I think it's not the most important. He is still 20 yo. What we can hope from him is keeping his good work for GP tourneys at least for the most one year. Gaining experience, winning mentality, type of play, type of strategy and others. After that, just believe that he can do further in higher type tourneys...
..then what is??..Sure he is still 20 yrs old, but so are many of his other teammates/compatriots. IMO, with his resume, he could start playing regularly in GP, GP Gold or SS type tourneys. Do you know which tourney Taufik was already playing in when he was 20 yrs young?? Sure, you can expand & test Hayom's talent, experience, winning mentality, type of strategy for at least 1 more yr, playing in International Challenge, GP or National Circuit type tourneys. But what's next after that 1 yr ends? Are we expecting him to keep playing in those type of tourneys? Or are we expecting him to move up the ladder and challenge the big boys in GP Gold and SS type tourneys??.....Sooner or later he has to move up and face stiffer competitions..that's the bottom line.:cool:

[BadFever]

Agree with ctjcad. I reckon it's time Hayom try out higher level competittions. Already won INA Challenge 4 times. He shouldn't get too comfortable at this level. Otherwise the disapointment when losing will become unbearable. IMHO, Hayom possessed enough skills to compete with the best players. He just need experience and able to control his emotion once in a while. All the best to Hayom.

[fathonezic]

yapz.....
actually, he has got one GP tourney and 2 International challenges.
I think, he has to get another 2-3 GP tourneys first and gain another experiences in GP Gold tourneys. Like what he had done. He joined some international challenges before winning such tourney. and also joined some GP tourneys (may be just 2-3 GP tourneys) until he could win it in Australia GP. Now, he will join also in Taipei GP Gold (higher rank competition), let us hope he can gain another experience.

At this year, he beats some top 20 players. Also top 10 players.

[Enria]

I just noticed that the title of this thread is wrong; it should be Dionysius not Dionysisus

^_^

[phoenix26]

ya..
agree with u enria..
its dionysius not dionysisus..

someone have to correct that tittle..
:D:D:D

[Krisna]

yapz.....
actually, he has got one GP tourney and 2 International challenges.
I think, he has to get another 2-3 GP tourneys first and gain another experiences in GP Gold tourneys. Like what he had done. He joined some international challenges before winning such tourney. and also joined some GP tourneys (may be just 2-3 GP tourneys) until he could win it in Australia GP. Now, he will join also in Taipei GP Gold (higher rank competition), let us hope he can gain another experience.

At this year, he beats some top 20 players. Also top 10 players.

I think Hayom got:
1 GP title
1 International Challenge title (not 2)
1 International Series title

[badMania]

I think Hayom got:
1 GP title
1 International Challenge title (not 2)
1 International Series title

Yup:
Yonex Australia Open GP 2009
Astec Ultra-Milk Indonesia International Challenge 2009
and Banuinvest International Series 2009

plus a couple of Sirkuit Nasional titles.

[badMania]

I foresee Hayom will continue to participate in GP and GP Gold-level tourneys for the remainder of the year:
1. Yonex Chinese-Taipei Open GP Gold 2009
2. Yonex-Sunrise Vietnam Open GP 2009
3. Malaysia International Challenge 2009 -- debatable as Hayom already won an IC title, but, it's nearby!

or European tour with:
2. Bitburger Open GP 2009
3. Bulgarian International Challenge 2009
4. Dutch Open GP 2009 (??)

[Heong]

I heard about his amazing performance in Australian Open this year, he beat many of the top seeds even though he was un-seeded, so he definately has the potential to become a great player. Most probably the next Taufik Hidayat if he continues his work. :P

It was amazing how he also beat Andrew Smith, Chan Yan Kit and his compatriot Yunus and won the MS title. Very nice. :D

[habsq]

I hope he will come to Dutch Open... would love to see him playing up close... :)

[flo-J]

He Close to win against Taufik Hidayat In Taipe Open,,,
he is really Promising ^^::

[makapili]

Amazing how Badminton is going Theocrat! Wonder on what "supernatural" relative is Taufik? He did made a Sensation!:cool:

[sayakeren]

i saw him playing on court in Jkt during INA Challenge. He's tall and when he smashes.... BANG! it's so sharp and fast. His net play is also considerably smooth compared to other players around his age and level.

Further news from the local media: He's advancing his participation level to GP and SS tourneys soon after the INA Challenge. He's looking forward to join INA Pelatnas sometime soon; he was actually being offered to join already last year but he refused it because he didn't feel ready yet to take up the challenge.

Looking at how he plays, I have big hope for him. Additionally, he has no injury until now :) (not like most INA players who have some injuries even since their early ages)

[b0urg301s13]

i saw him playing on court in Jkt during INA Challenge. He's tall and when he smashes.... BANG! it's so sharp and fast. His net play is also considerably smooth compared to other players around his age and level.

Further news from the local media: He's advancing his participation level to GP and SS tourneys soon after the INA Challenge. He's looking forward to join INA Pelatnas sometime soon; he was actually being offered to join already last year but he refused it because he didn't feel ready yet to take up the challenge.

Looking at how he plays, I have big hope for him. Additionally, he has no injury until now :) (not like most INA players who have some injuries even since their early ages)


Ah... how lucky of you to be able to see him live in action...:crying:

[badadum]

Probably a good thing in declining to join Pelatnas. For one reason or another (most probably money related), the 2nd and 3rd tier player there rarely got the opportunity to play..... Djarum has been much better in sending players to play at various tourneys.

[ye333]

You are always the sober/pessimistic one. :D:D


..then what is??..Sure he is still 20 yrs old, but so are many of his other teammates/compatriots. IMO, with his resume, he could start playing regularly in GP, GP Gold or SS type tourneys. Do you know which tourney Taufik was already playing in when he was 20 yrs young?? Sure, you can expand & test Hayom's talent, experience, winning mentality, type of strategy for at least 1 more yr, playing in International Challenge, GP or National Circuit type tourneys. But what's next after that 1 yr ends? Are we expecting him to keep playing in those type of tourneys? Or are we expecting him to move up the ladder and challenge the big boys in GP Gold and SS type tourneys??.....Sooner or later he has to move up and face stiffer competitions..that's the bottom line.:cool:

[ctjcad]

..hardly, i may say (if you re-read the post again). I'm just putting forth the reality and what he (PBSI or whoever his management entity is) should be thinking abt. It's for their own benefit (to an extent INA badminton) and hiscareer.:cool:
Or would you prefer him to just continually compete in the National circuits, International, Challenges type tourneys??..:confused:

[ye333]

This is exactly what "sober" means man... :D:D

[QUOTE=ctjcad;1245391]I'm just putting forth the reality and what he (PBSI or whoever his management entity is) should be thinking abt.

[ctjcad]

..where is the "pessimistic one"??..:confused::confused:

[ye333]

When everyone else is optimistic, the realistic one sounds pessimistic... :D:D


..where is the "pessimistic one"??..:confused::confused:

[ctjcad]

..if i'm considered a "sober one" or a "sober optimist" sound like a "pessimist", then how do you define someone who is a real, true blue "pessimist"??..a cynic?? a defeatist?? a killjoy?? a party pooper?? a prophet of doom?? a sourpuss?? or a wet blanket??..:confused:

[Fidget]

.. then how do you define someone who is a real, true blue "pessimist"??..a cynic?? a defeatist?? a killjoy?? a party pooper?? a prophet of doom?? a sourpuss?? or a wet blanket??..:confused:

I think they are called "political pundits".:p

[george@chongwei]

Looking forward to see him more in action in the future. Hopefully, soon.

[limsy]

after so many praise,is time for him to rise to gp gold event i think?

[flo-J]

just wait a chance from PBSI offering him to join National Teamagain,,he will take the oportunities,,he is ready for it now;)
uhm BTW,, You Can See his article on GADIS Magazine No.25(Indonesian Teen Magazine) this month :D:p

[Krisna]

IMO, with his resume, he could start playing regularly in GP, GP Gold or SS type tourneys.


Agree with ctjcad. I reckon it's time Hayom try out higher level competittions. Already won INA Challenge 4 times.

Hayom won INA Challenge only once...


yapz.....
actually, he has got one GP tourney and 2 International challenges.
I think, he has to get another 2-3 GP tourneys first and gain another experiences in GP Gold tourneys. Like what he had done. He joined some international challenges before winning such tourney. and also joined some GP tourneys (may be just 2-3 GP tourneys) until he could win it in Australia GP. Now, he will join also in Taipei GP Gold (higher rank competition), let us hope he can gain another experience.



after so many praise,is time for him to rise to gp gold event i think?

He did play in the Taipei Open Gold GP event... lost to Taufik Hidayat in the quarterfinals in close rubber sets... :cool:


just wait a chance from PBSI offering him to join National Team again, he will take the oportunities,,he is ready for it now;)
uhm BTW,, You Can See his article on GADIS Magazine No.25(Indonesian Teen Magazine) this month :D:p

Really?!? :eek: Gadis?!?

[limsy]

He did play in the Taipei Open Gold GP event... lost to Taufik Hidayat in the quarterfinals in close rubber sets... :cool:


sorry,too busy on tournament day:(

[badMania]

IMHO, Dionysius Hayom Rumbaka should feature in at least GP Level & GP Gold Level tourneys, with a couple of nearby SS events next year. He needs to improve his ranking to at least top 25 first before he can compete in the main draw of the SS event. That's the most important first-target. What's the use of registering him for the SS events only for him to lose in the first round :cool:???

According to an interview with him, for the remaining of this year, he will participate in:
Yonex-Sunrise Vietnam Open GP 2009
and Yonex Open Hong-Kong Super Series 2009 -- not sure if he can qualify for main draw. If he can, it will be a good experience for him.

[Krisna]

and Yonex Open Hong-Kong Super Series 2009 -- not sure if he can qualify for main draw. If he can, it will be a good experience for him.

And good for you, badMania... because you can watch him live in HK... :D

[flo-J]

check this out,,

http://badzine.info/index.php/players-kit/playersspotlight/2062-profile-dionysius-hayom-rumbaka-in-his-journey-to-be-a-world-champion-.html

[george@chongwei]

didn't know he wears glasses though;)
he loves air force, eh?:cool:

[flo-J]

didn't know he wears glasses though;)
he loves air force, eh?:cool:

haha..i think he did'nt wear glasses bcos have some troubles w/ his eyesight~
might, it just like glasses that you wear when your hang out w/ your friends to make u looks Cool,,in Bahasa we said "Kacamata gaul"

i just notice parts when he said that Taufik as a role model for him,,well...well...hmm:p

[CLELY]

So upcoming target for Hayom, winning Vietnam GP and the main threat for him of course is local fave and defending champion, Nguyen Tien Minh. Good luck Hayom!

[Krisna]

I don't think Hayom can defeat Nguyen at this time... Especially if Nguyen played the way he did in Taipei... :p Oh, if any of you want to see Hayom vs. Taufik in Taipei Open 2009, just search for it in youtube... there is a 5 part series on that close rubber set match...

[ctjcad]

..from this yr's CHN Taipei Open. Hayom in red outfit. His net game is pretty good. I hope his right knee is not an issue..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiRanBnMnD0

[ye333]

The first part seems missing though.

So far only games 2 and 3. Parts 2,3 are game 2, parts 4,5 are game 3.


I don't think Hayom can defeat Nguyen at this time... Especially if Nguyen played the way he did in Taipei... :p Oh, if any of you want to see Hayom vs. Taufik in Taipei Open 2009, just search for it in youtube... there is a 5 part series on that close rubber set match...

[Smichz]

Hayom rumbaka or andre kurniawan should be able to really beat the little brother,simon santoso first,to enter the podium of indo MS.As i watched,hayom rumbaka got the skill,but we don't know whether he can make a full use of it or not..

[fathonezic]

Hayom Rumbaka will have a good chance to break into top 20 next year.
When I first post this thread, he is in 76th WR. Now, he stands in 38 WR. He goes up 36 rank just in about 4 months.

Now, he also has 3 international titles already. Let us see, what he can do in Syed Modi India Open Grand Prix this December

[alvisiny]

I think HAyom is good ....
Maybe he can reach achievement from badminton ,,,

[nick.h]

he's tall, good net play (but not GREAT like taufik, but close enough)...he's good but his performance is based on speed and power...i'd love to see him play more like taufik, glide around the court and stuff

[CLELY]

Hayom Rumbaka will have a good chance to break into top 20 next year.
When I first post this thread, he is in 76th WR. Now, he stands in 38 WR. He goes up 36 rank just in about 4 months.

Now, he also has 3 international titles already. Let us see, what he can do in Syed Modi India Open Grand Prix this December

His main opponent in India GP is absolutely local players, such as Kashyap P, Anand Pawar, Arvind Bhat, Chetan Anand... Hope he can perform the best here:)

[limsy]

i do think he have a VERY GOOD chance to win this title:)

[jug8man]

Indian players are very good too.

Best man will win

[Krisna]

His main opponent in India GP is absolutely local players, such as Kashyap P, Anand Pawar, Arvind Bhat, Chetan Anand... Hope he can perform the best here:)

The only Indian player Hayom did not defeat was Chetan Anand, in the finals of India Open GP... :p But, not bad lah. It was a good competitive rubber set. Hayom is pretty consistent at the GP level now... :) Loosing only to tough veterans like Nguyen or Chetan...

[CLELY]

The only Indian player Hayom did not defeat was Chetan Anand, in the finals of India Open GP... :p But, not bad lah. It was a good competitive rubber set. Hayom is pretty consistent at the GP level now... :) Loosing only to tough veterans like Nguyen or Chetan...

Yeah, it wasn't poor result. Hayom's WR moves up 1 rung to #38 (per December 24, 2009). Hopefully he can break top-20 next year^^

[Krisna]

Yeah, it wasn't poor result. Hayom's WR moves up 1 rung to #38 (per December 24, 2009). Hopefully he can break top-20 next year^^

It is quite possible to break into the top 20. We are all assuming he will be in the National Team in 2010. Hopefully they can manage his career well... :cool:

[Sandy]

Yeah, it wasn't poor result. Hayom's WR moves up 1 rung to #38 (per December 24, 2009). Hopefully he can break top-20 next year^^

moves up to #30 (Per December 24, 2009)

[CLELY]

moves up to #30 (Per December 24, 2009)

Oh, yes...moves up 8 rung from previous week #38. Sorry...

[fathonezic]

today, hayom will leave Djarum and enter Pelatnas. just get news from chatting

[sayakeren]

today, hayom will leave Djarum and enter Pelatnas. just get news from chatting

yap he's finally there!
http://forum.pbdjarum.com/showthread.php?t=35 (sorry, this one is in Bahasa, but it came directly from djarum)

and now ranked #30. oh yeah, he's definitely getting to the 20s! way to go, Hayom!

[Krisna]

Hayom is WR #28 today... and just performed very well at the INA National Championship... He almost defeated Sony...

[fathonezic]

I hope, he will be another gift talent for Indonesia badminton.

he gets more mature in every tournament...
now he lost, tomorrow he will win. he always learn from his loss.

[badMania]

Hayom is WR #28 today... and just performed very well at the INA National Championship... He almost defeated Sony...

Andre was also leading 20-18 in the second set and almost forced rubber-set :o

[CLELY]

Hayom is WR #28 today... and just performed very well at the INA National Championship... He almost defeated Sony...

He may break top-20 soon, hopefully! Compared with Tommy Sugiarto WR (#88), Hayom WR is much better...

[fathonezic]

..a question mark or two or three or four after the end of the thread title...DHR-Indonesia Rising Star????..;)

and now we got the answer, he is our real rising star ;)

[fathonezic]

IMHO, Dionysius Hayom Rumbaka should feature in at least GP Level & GP Gold Level tourneys, with a couple of nearby SS events next year. He needs to improve his ranking to at least top 25 first before he can compete in the main draw of the SS event. That's the most important first-target. What's the use of registering him for the SS events only for him to lose in the first round :cool:???

According to an interview with him, for the remaining of this year, he will participate in:
Yonex-Sunrise Vietnam Open GP 2009
and Yonex Open Hong-Kong Super Series 2009 -- not sure if he can qualify for main draw. If he can, it will be a good experience for him.

Not just qualify from HK SS, he also could go further to quarter final ;)

[Krisna]

Hayom is now registered to play at the All England and Swiss Open SS...

[fathonezic]

Hayom is now registered to play at the All England and Swiss Open SS...

Does this mean that Hayom now joining in Pelatnas already ?? not return to Djarum after TC selection ??

[Krisna]

Does this mean that Hayom now joining in Pelatnas already ?? not return to Djarum after TC selection ??

To my knowledge, he is not in Pelatnas yet. His name is just registered as a participant in All England and Swiss Open. In the meantime, I believe he is still training in Kudus as usual.

[Krisna]

I got this from the PB Djarum website... :eek: :cool:

68070

[ctjcad]

..reminds me of the movie "Legion"...

[huangkwokhau]

I got this from the PB Djarum website... :eek: :cool:

68070
Sponsored by Flypower...Flying with Power.....:D

[george@chongwei]

I got this from the PB Djarum website... :eek: :cool:

68070
wow, eagle's wing?:D

that post with the racket minus the eagle's wing in the background, reminds me of Lin dan's li ning racket post:p

[ye333]

Who are those people soaring in the background? :D

[fathonezic]

Glad to see the improvements of Hayom Rumbaka. Now he is in top 30. It's time for him to climb up for at least to Top 20. Hopefully he can break the Top 15 in the end of this year. Top 10 ??? ohh, I think it's unlikely. But if he can, I will be sooo happyyy :D

[CLELY]

Let's see Hayom performance in two upcoming SS, All England & Suisse...

[naistav]

Let's see Hayom performance in two upcoming SS, All England & Suisse...
Well, Hayom did good in AE2010, but still not good enough since there were a lot of surprise from another youngsters and even from veterans.
Now, let's see in Swiss Open, he will meet Eric Pang first, should be no problem if he is really a rising star.

[george@chongwei]

At least he manage to let chen jin sweat during the AE;)

[Yoppy]

Yes it was a relatively harder draw for Hayom in AE2010. Chen Jin is no easy at all.

[naistav]

At least he manage to let chen jin sweat during the AE;)
Yup, it was unfortunate for him that many other youngster had stole his small thunder in AE2010 :cool:

[Krisna]

Yup, it was unfortunate for him that many other youngster had stole his small thunder in AE2010 :cool:

Hayom plays with BIG thunders... Watch him... ;) His attacking overheads are more dangerous than Tago's... But Tago is way more tactically alert... :cool:

[PoLLuX]

hopefully he will have good result in Swiss Open SS 2010

[naistav]

Hayom plays with BIG thunders... Watch him... ;) His attacking overheads are more dangerous than Tago's... But Tago is way more tactically alert... :cool:
I know, his smash is a really big thunder. He resemble more to BCL than his idol, Taufik :).
I hope he could pass Eric Pang and Chen Long in Swiss Open so he will have chance to avenge his loss to Taufik and .. on TV :cool:

[Krisna]

Well, Hayom did good in AE2010, but still not good enough since there were a lot of surprise from another youngsters and even from veterans.
Now, let's see in Swiss Open, he will meet Eric Pang first, should be no problem if he is really a rising star.


I know, his smash is a really big thunder. He resemble more to BCL than his idol, Taufik :).
I hope he could pass Eric Pang and Chen Long in Swiss Open so he will have chance to avenge his loss to Taufik and .. on TV :cool:

Hayom destroyed [totally outclassed] Eric Pang in 26 minutes... Looks like he will meet Chen Long soon... ;)

[naistav]

Hayom destroyed [totally outclassed] Eric Pang in 26 minutes... Looks like he will meet Chen Long soon... ;)
Ya, i do hope that he will defeat Chen Long.
And also take down Taufik then :cool:

[fathonezic]

Ya, i do hope that he will defeat Chen Long.
And also take down Taufik then :cool:

So do I :D
only hope....

[jamesd20]

I watched him against CJ in AE 2010, he impressed me.

His skill level is very high, he was quick and knew how to play.

I saw his weakness as his build & court coverage. He seemed a bit lightweight & struggled to move quickly across the diagonals, a bit more power training and he will be very hot. He had a chance in every game to beat CJ.

I will look to his results from now on!

[OneToughBirdie]

Hayom destroyed [totally outclassed] Eric Pang in 26 minutes... Looks like he will meet Chen Long soon... ;)

That would be a dandy...:)

[CLELY]

Ya, i do hope that he will defeat Chen Long.
And also take down Taufik then :cool:

Unfortunately, he lost to Chen Long yesterday after played rubber games. And Taufik too...:eek:

[cooler]

this star needed some yeast:p

[ye333]

Watched Hayom vs CL.

Seems to me he is too passive/too relaxed in style (in sharp contrast with CL). Almost never "up the pace", never take half chances. His style is against the trend in MS -- more emphasis on the ability to "up the pace" -- as it is getting harder and harder to win a rally by good placement alone. :cool:

If he wants to be big, I think he should be more aggressive or maybe strengthen his legs. Learn from TH, who won all his major titles by endless smash-rush to net-smash-rush to net..., not be tricky shots and accurate placements.

[fathonezic]

Watched Hayom vs CL.

Seems to me he is too passive/too relaxed in style (in sharp contrast with CL). Almost never "up the pace", never take half chances. His style is against the trend in MS -- more emphasis on the ability to "up the pace" -- as it is getting harder and harder to win a rally by good placement alone. :cool:

If he wants to be big, I think he should be more aggressive or maybe strengthen his legs. Learn from TH, who won all his major titles by endless smash-rush to net-smash-rush to net..., not be tricky shots and accurate placements.

Actually he is very aggressive.... :rolleyes:
you just see from one match... he is quite quick... maybe he is one of the quickest...

CL has a good tctic so he can made hayom not to use his speed and smash...
:D

[ye333]

He has great smashes. But that doesn't mean he is aggressive... Let me put it this way, his shots (smashes, drives, etc) are quite aggressive and powerful, his net play is good enough, but his feet is a bit "lazy" comparing to top players. During many rallies CL were hitting the shuttle in awkward ways but Hayom didn't take chances and allowed CL to recover.

Nowadays, good shots alone is far from enough, you have to have "quick feet" to follow your shots. Look at Simon Santoso playing PG. When SS can "rush to the net", PG is in big big trouble. But when SS slowed down a bit, PG dominates.

If Hayom is indeed "one of the quickest", he must be in quite bad form during the Swiss Open. Since his movement was far less agile than even SDK or SS, not to say LCW or LD.

Of course, maybe it's because he is much less experienced than those people and thus had difficulty reading opponents' shots. Let's wait and see. ;)


Actually he is very aggressive.... :rolleyes:
you just see from one match... he is quite quick... maybe he is one of the quickest...

CL has a good tctic so he can made hayom not to use his speed and smash...
:D

[jamesd20]

Seems to me he is too passive/too relaxed in style (in sharp contrast with CL). Almost never "up the pace", never take half chances. His style is against the trend in MS -- more emphasis on the ability to "up the pace" -- as it is getting harder and harder to win a rally by good placement alone. :cool:

If he wants to be big, I think he should be more aggressive or maybe strengthen his legs. Learn from TH, who won all his major titles by endless smash-rush to net-smash-rush to net..., not be tricky shots and accurate placements.

This is pretty much how I saw him at the AE - Beef up a bit, be more confident.

He creates chances & openings, but seems not to have the mentality to attack and "Win" points, and lacks the strength to hang in there in defence.

It may be too early to tell if he is the next big thing - Some come on the scene full of confidence & get the big reults (eg CJ,BCL), then go on the wane. Others are more cautious when exposed to the big time, but grow into it (eg LD)

[jamesd20]

Look at Simon Santoso playing PG. When SS can "rush to the net", PG is in big big trouble. But when SS slowed down a bit, PG dominates.


there are two ways to beat people - technically, through strokeplay & placement & through speed. SS isn't good enough to beat Gade at technical, so beats him (or not) through speed.

[naistav]

I think Hayom should listen to these BC good inputs hehehe.
If someone know him, let him informed about these. So our Hayom could be our next star.
Btw, CL is younger than Hayom, but he's more experienced and more tactical, Hayom must speed up to cover and fix his so-called weakness.

[ye333]

Nowadays it seems harder and harder to beat people in the former way... Players ability to get out of trouble increased considerably during the past 30 years. 20-30 years ago even top players cannot do much with a low backhand, totally different nowadays.

So IMHO nowadays speed weighs more than placement.


there are two ways to beat people - technically, through strokeplay & placement & through speed. SS isn't good enough to beat Gade at technical, so beats him (or not) through speed.

[jamesd20]

Nowadays it seems harder and harder to beat people in the former way... Players ability to get out of trouble increased considerably during the past 30 years. 20-30 years ago even top players cannot do much with a low backhand, totally different nowadays.

So IMHO nowadays speed weighs more than placement.

Yes I agree, Physical training has become much more advanced than 30yrs ago & with the developmet of racket & string technology speed & power have come to the fore much more.

Likewise even 30yrs ago you couldn't win without still being a superb athlete. It is just the balance that has switched.

Finally it is also worth mentioning that at "our" level (and by that I make a rash generalisation that BF members are a lot lower level than the professional game) Technical ability is by far the most important level. The higer the level of your play, the more Physical ability comes into play.

[cooler]

Of course, maybe it's because he is much less experienced than those people and thus had difficulty reading opponents' shots. Let's wait and see. ;)
or maybe rumba was coached the way to play the more seasoned pros is to not fear his opponent's persona, like, he must see as tho BCL playing with underwear on.:D Thus, rumba lost because he overplayed this 'don't fear him advice':p:) Hey, it's just one of many theory:D

case study
don't think my advice is to ridicule anyone. Look at ALL chinese players before 2007, having hard time with taufik. Before, chinese MS has this fear of 'what to do with the magician taufik, the olympic champ'. Once that overblown fear is subsided, chinese players came around.

[jamesd20]

case study
don't think my advice is to ridicule anyone. Look at ALL chinese players before 2007, having hard time with taufik. Before, chinese MS has this fear of 'what to do with the magician taufik, the olympic champ'. Once that overblown fear is subsided, chinese players came around.

Mmm, or maybe taufik just eased off the gas? I didn't see XXZ struggling against TH too much pre OG 2004 for example. I think we must admit that for OG2004 TH had his moment of genius.


I agree with Rubaka maybe being apprehensive, or even too confident - The only thing that will show us is time - will he develop into a confident & focussed machine (Eg Lin Dan) or shrivel into a shell of trick shots and laid back play (Like for example Sairul Ayob). Nb I am not saying Rumbaka will be another LD - it is just an example.

[ye333]

That's right. And the Chinese players selflessly taught their tricks to LCW and more recently to Yamada (maybe the Ukranian guy too). :D:D



case study
don't think my advice is to ridicule anyone. Look at ALL chinese players before 2007, having hard time with taufik. Before, chinese MS has this fear of 'what to do with the magician taufik, the olympic champ'. Once that overblown fear is subsided, chinese players came around.

[ye333]

Totally totally agree with this.


Finally it is also worth mentioning that at "our" level (and by that I make a rash generalisation that BF members are a lot lower level than the professional game) Technical ability is by far the most important level. The higer the level of your play, the more Physical ability comes into play.

[naistav]

I agree with Rubaka maybe being apprehensive, or even too confident - The only thing that will show us is time - will he develop into a confident & focussed machine (Eg Lin Dan) or shrivel into a shell of trick shots and laid back play (Like for example Sairul Ayob). Nb I am not saying Rumbaka will be another LD - it is just an example.

I guess Hayom's most unsolved weakness yet is his over confident or underestimate his opponents. One of this example was his lost at 2007 at first round Philipine Open to Spanish player. He probably over confident with his technique that made him a lazy footwork-er. However, when his opponent could answer his technical wise shots, he didn't have better idea to overcome the situation :D:D

[cooler]

That's right. And the Chinese players selflessly taught their tricks to LCW and more recently to Yamada (maybe the Ukranian guy too). :D:Dhmmm, r u saying lcw and TH are slow learners because they seem to have difficulty beating LD:rolleyes:

[ye333]

No. What I am saying is the Chinese players must have taught LCW how to beat TH, since the 2 or 3 worst losses TH suffered are to LCW. :cool:


hmmm, r u saying lcw and TH are slow learners because they seem to have difficulty beating LD:rolleyes:

[ye333]

Well... If that's the case (Hayom is over-confident), that shows the level of Indonesian youngesters... Such confidence has to be from lack of real competition when this guy is a teenager.


I guess Hayom's most unsolved weakness yet is his over confident or underestimate his opponents. One of this example was his lost at 2007 at first round Philipine Open to Spanish player. He probably over confident with his technique that made him a lazy footwork-er. However, when his opponent could answer his technical wise shots, he didn't have better idea to overcome the situation :D:D

[jamesd20]

Well... If that's the case (Hayom is over-confident), that shows the level of Indonesian youngesters... Such confidence has to be from lack of real competition when this guy is a teenager.

Agreed. Likewise, could be a reason why BCL or CJ sem to lack confidence in themselvs sometimes - How can you believe you are a world beater when players in your own team can beat you.

[naistav]

Agreed. Likewise, could be a reason why BCL or CJ sem to lack confidence in themselvs sometimes - How can you believe you are a world beater when players in your own team can beat you.
Perhaps what you are referring to is BCL or CJ sometimes feel inferior to LD achievements? :D
Although this is not the case of what Hayom had.

[Krisna]

Well... If that's the case (Hayom is over-confident), that shows the level of Indonesian youngesters... Such confidence has to be from lack of real competition when this guy is a teenager.

Actually, when Hayom was a teenager, he got beat up by many competitors domestically on a regular basis. Hayom's best accomplishment was reaching the semifinals of INA's national championships... :p We cannot say he didn't have real competition domestically when he was a teenager... :p Bandar Sigit Pamungkas, Nugroho Andi Saputra, Yoga Pratama were his tough opponents back then...

Hayom started winning domestic and international tournaments in 2009... Not before that... In 2007 Hayom lost a rubber set match to Chen Yu of China at the Russian Open, he was a real competition, right? So the fact that he regularly lost matches all the way to the end of 2008 means that at least the competition is hard enough not to allow him to win... :p

[ye333]

I was just wondering why he was playing so relaxed... Even TH 10 years ago were more aggressive than him, not to say SDK. Hayom played like Simon in 2005 -- but we all know what Simon has achieved. ;)

My guess is that, he didn't have much competition from kids around him when he was like 13 - 16 years old. That's the time when you form your attitude on court. LD/LCW was nobody at that age -- not the tallest, not the one with best skill, not coaches' favorite, etc. -- that's why they grow up to be fighters. On the other hand we have TH -- but TH is so naturally talented that he doesn't need to fight even when playing at top level. :cool:


Actually, when Hayom was a teenager, he got beat up by many competitors domestically on a regular basis. Hayom's best accomplishment was reaching the semifinals of INA's national championships... :p We cannot say he didn't have real competition domestically when he was a teenager... :p Bandar Sigit Pamungkas, Nugroho Andi Saputra, Yoga Pratama were his tough opponents back then...

Hayom started winning domestic and international tournaments in 2009... Not before that... In 2007 Hayom lost a rubber set match to Chen Yu of China at the Russian Open, he was a real competition, right? So the fact that he regularly lost matches all the way to the end of 2008 means that at least the competition is hard enough not to allow him to win... :p

[Sandy]

I was just wondering why he was playing so relaxed... Even TH 10 years ago were more aggressive than him, not to say SDK. Hayom played like Simon in 2005 -- but we all know what Simon has achieved. ;)

My guess is that, he didn't have much competition from kids around him when he was like 13 - 16 years old. That's the time when you form your attitude on court. LD/LCW was nobody at that age -- not the tallest, not the one with best skill, not coaches' favorite, etc. -- that's why they grow up to be fighters. On the other hand we have TH -- but TH is so naturally talented that he doesn't need to fight even when playing at top level. :cool:

Wow, so accurate guessing

When 13-15 or 14-15 y.o, Hayom joined to PB. Pikiran Rakyat, Tasikmalaya (quiet far from his hometown Yogyakarya for junior high school kid). We didn't hear his performance in this age.
In 15 y.o he back to Yogyakarta and just compete in small event in Yogyakarta.
He joined to PB. Djarum in 2005 (more 16 y.o age), quite late for intensive training.
Until middle 2008 he still behind compare his clubmate like Bandar Sigit Pamungkas, or Nugroho Andi Saputro.

[fathonezic]

I was just wondering why he was playing so relaxed... Even TH 10 years ago were more aggressive than him, not to say SDK. Hayom played like Simon in 2005 -- but we all know what Simon has achieved. ;)

My guess is that, he didn't have much competition from kids around him when he was like 13 - 16 years old. That's the time when you form your attitude on court. LD/LCW was nobody at that age -- not the tallest, not the one with best skill, not coaches' favorite, etc. -- that's why they grow up to be fighters. On the other hand we have TH -- but TH is so naturally talented that he doesn't need to fight even when playing at top level. :cool:

I dont think so :D

until 13 yo, he joined every competitions. many competitions were held both in Kulon Progo, Sleman, Bantul and Yogyakarta. He joined all.
and you know, he joined all divisions. when he was 12 yo, beside Pemula division, he also joined Remaja and Taruna division as well. in Kejurda kulon Progo, He also even joined Dewasa division :eek:

can you believe it ?? :eek:
in one tournament, he can play 4-6 games every day.
and he almost won all. except Taruna and Dewasa may be.
even, he can still reached semifinal or final in Taruna when he was still 11-13.
At 15 yo, No one can beat him in Yogyakarta province ;)
He won all division, until Dewasa I thought (I forgot about this :p)

As i remembered, he also went into final in a such national competition level held in Yogyakarta. maybe at 14/15 yo :confused: Someone from Semen Gresik (anyone can confirm :confused:) beat him in Final. He was the one and probably the only player from unknown club like Pancing Sembada Sleman that could enter as far as semifinal.
I dont know, but maybe anyone can confirm about this coz i dont clearly remember.

[fathonezic]

Wow, so accurate guessing

When 14-15, Hayom joined to PB. Pikiran Rakyat, Tasikmalaya (quiet far from his hometown Yogyakarya for junior high school kid). We didn't hear his performance in this age.
In 15 y.o he back to Yogyakarta and just compete in small event in Yogyakarta.
He joined to PB. Djarum in 2005 (more 16 y.o age), quite late for intensive training.
Until middle 2008 he still behind compare his clubmate like Bandar Sigit Pamungkas, or Nugroho Andi Saputro.

yes...
he joined Pikiran Rakyat for about 1 year or a bit more.
came back and joined Pancing again just to won all competitions after that.

oh, i think he also recruited by Pelatda Aqua Inside... i think...

[Krisna]

Wow, so accurate guessing

When 13-15 or 14-15 y.o, Hayom joined to PB. Pikiran Rakyat, Tasikmalaya (quiet far from his hometown Yogyakarya for junior high school kid). We didn't hear his performance in this age.
In 15 y.o he back to Yogyakarta and just compete in small event in Yogyakarta.
He joined to PB. Djarum in 2005 (more 16 y.o age), quite late for intensive training.
Until middle 2008 he still behind compare his clubmate like Bandar Sigit Pamungkas, or Nugroho Andi Saputro.

I heard he was sent to Tasikmalaya by his parents to live with his grandparents because he was so naughty when he was young... :p

[fathonezic]

I heard he was sent to Tasikmalaya by his parents to live with his grandparents because he was so naughty when he was young... :p

not just naughty....:p
his mark on raport was very bad at all :p
i can say that "6" was a very good mark for him :p

[CLELY]

Next tournament for Hayom is BAC next month. With his current WR, possibly he'll place 9/16 seeding position.

[naistav]

I dont think so :D

until 13 yo, he joined every competitions. many competitions were held both in Kulon Progo, Sleman, Bantul and Yogyakarta. He joined all.
and you know, he joined all divisions. when he was 12 yo, beside Pemula division, he also joined Remaja and Taruna division as well. in Kejurda kulon Progo, He also even joined Dewasa division :eek:

can you believe it ?? :eek:
in one tournament, he can play 4-6 games every day.
and he almost won all. except Taruna and Dewasa may be.
even, he can still reached semifinal or final in Taruna when he was still 11-13.
At 15 yo, No one can beat him in Yogyakarta province ;)
He won all division, until Dewasa I thought (I forgot about this :p)

As i remembered, he also went into final in a such national competition level held in Yogyakarta. maybe at 14/15 yo :confused: Someone from Semen Gresik (anyone can confirm :confused:) beat him in Final. He was the one and probably the only player from unknown club like Pancing Sembada Sleman that could enter as far as semifinal.
I dont know, but maybe anyone can confirm about this coz i dont clearly remember.
Like you mentioned, he did compete at many tournaments and competitions. But, to repeat what's ye333 referring to, he probably did not get enough competition from other kids at that ages.
Means, he should have jump to higher level competition at that time since he almost won all the time with the competition level that he participated

[Krisna]

Oh well, hahaha... :p I don't think what ye333 wrote is correct at all. For Hayom's case ye333's analysis is just flawed in many different levels, that I don't have time to explain how wrong it is. But anyway, it's all in the past now... :p

[volcom]

He has the makings of a great player, if he is focused mentally and works further on his physical game.

[jamesd20]

Oh well, hahaha... :p I don't think what ye333 wrote is correct at all. For Hayom's case ye333's analysis is just flawed in many different levels, that I don't have time to explain how wrong it is. But anyway, it's all in the past now... :p

With respect to ye333, he wasn't making a detailed asessment of Rumbaka's playing style through his past. I think he was simply implying that players who do not get challenged enough at a young age may be susceptible to being laid back, shot makers as they were more often than not on the attack, they could relax more & try out new shots.

He was trying to suggest a reason why Rumbaka may play like this (and in his defence others did partially agree!).

Why people play like this is also due to behavioural traits, coaching style or any other factor we could mention.

With better knowledge of Rumbaka could you enlighten us more as to what shapes his playing style?

Personally I would say he is a pretty typical INA player (no suprises as he is INA:D).

[ye333]

I was trying to understand Hayom's style... So it would be great if you can shed some light on this...:)

Actually, IMHO there is a "change of style" around 00-01 in Indonesian MS. Before that, most of them are fighters, Joko, Alan, Ardi, and of course Hendrawan, who was always fighting from the very first minute to the very last one. Around 00-01 it's kind of a mixture. SDK was somewhat a fighter, but TH was not (but as I said, TH could comfortably stay in Indo's top 3 -- more precisely world top 5 -- without taking a single half chance). Then Simon and Hayom. Both IMHO too relaxed. Now, accompanying this "change of style" is the decline of Indonesian MS. My suspicion is that the latter is the reason of the former -- As competition is minimal, the more technical players can toy most opponents around and form the habit of not taking half chances.

Finally, I should mention that although TH plays very relaxed, I can feel that he in fact sees every chance, he is just too lazy to take them. :cool:


Oh well, hahaha... :p I don't think what ye333 wrote is correct at all. For Hayom's case ye333's analysis is just flawed in many different levels, that I don't have time to explain how wrong it is. But anyway, it's all in the past now... :p

[Krisna]

I was trying to understand Hayom's style... So it would be great if you can shed some light on this...:)


Hehehe, in my opinion, Hayom does not play with a relaxed style... :) Maybe he looked a bit relaxed while playing Eric Pang, but that's maybe because Eric is not a tough opponent for him. This discussion on INA's relaxed style blablabla does not apply to Hayom. :p

Oh, I agree that in INA, in general the temperament/mood of the population is 'relaxed'. We're a tropical volcanic archipelago. For centuries, we have fertile land, plenty of water [thus, ample food supply], rich natural resources, no winter, no drought, no hurry, ....just chill... :p

[fathonezic]

oohh... hayom did very bad result in BAC 2010 :(

[cooler]

hayom need some more yeasts, to rise under the heat:):p

[CLELY]

oohh... hayom did very bad result in BAC 2010 :(

Yeah, unimpressive performance by Hayom.
After lost to Chen Jin & Chen Long at last month AE & Swiss SS respectively, he gave up to lesser known TPE player Chou Tien Chen.

[george@chongwei]

Yeah, unimpressive performance by Hayom.
After lost to Chen Jin & Chen Long at last month AE & Swiss SS respectively, he gave up to lesser known TPE player Chou Tien Chen.
At this stage, EVERY badminton players will be known of their CONSISTENCY. Here is where Lin Dan and Lee chong wei different from other players;)

[fathonezic]

At this stage, EVERY badminton players will be known of their CONSISTENCY. Here is where Lin Dan and Lee chong wei different from other players;)

agree...
but maybe you forget about Peter Gade :D

[naistav]

agree...
but maybe you forget about Peter Gade :D
Agree, although Peter Gade hasn't won any of OG or WC yet, he maintain his performance to stay in top 10 for years.

[naistav]

Yeah, unimpressive performance by Hayom.
After lost to Chen Jin & Chen Long at last month AE & Swiss SS respectively, he gave up to lesser known TPE player Chou Tien Chen.
He need more exposure to international tourneys. He was relatively late to start his SS and GP level journey, but I still put my hope on him :D

[fathonezic]

He need more exposure to international tourneys. He was relatively late to start his SS and GP level journey, but I still put my hope on him :D

I also still put my hope on him :D

i dont know, my mind always said that he will be the next star.
I hope he can prove that my mind is right :D

[Yoppy]

Despite having lost to Tommy in the selection, Hayom is selected in the TC team 2010. This shows that INA national coaches think highly of Hayom, there must be some potential.

[fathonezic]

Despite having lost to Tommy in the selection, Hayom is selected in the TC team 2010. This shows that INA national coaches think highly of Hayom, there must be some potential.

in selection, it's just for TC qualification.after selection, of course, pbsi chose tommy as 4th MS in TC qualification.
after that, Hayom shows that he is better than Tommy espescially in training.
because of that, Coach Agus choose Hayom for TC final :)

[naistav]

in selection, it's just for TC qualification.after selection, of course, pbsi chose tommy as 4th MS in TC qualification.
after that, Hayom shows that he is better than Tommy espescially in training.
because of that, Coach Agus choose Hayom for TC final :)
Even in it was told that Hayom is also prepared as double player.:eek:

[cooler]

Even in it was told that Hayom is also prepared as double player.:eek:

his back up plan?:p

[fathonezic]

Even in it was told that Hayom is also prepared as double player.:eek:

are you sure ??? :eek:
do you have the report about that ???
its good i think. his smash is like thunder :D

[wilcan]

Even in it was told that Hayom is also prepared as double player.:eek:
i dont think he will play double.the coach said it just fullfil one of BWF's rule.i forget where i read this.but i'm sure what i say

[Krisna]

Despite having lost to Tommy in the selection, Hayom is selected in the TC team 2010. This shows that INA national coaches think highly of Hayom, there must be some potential.

Note: around 3 weeks after the TC qualification selection, Hayom defeated Tommy in the INA National Championships in 2 straight games... :cool:


in selection, it's just for TC qualification.after selection, of course, pbsi chose tommy as 4th MS in TC qualification.
after that, Hayom shows that he is better than Tommy espescially in training.
because of that, Coach Agus choose Hayom for TC final :)

Techically, physically, etc. Hayom is superior over Tommy.... :cool:


Even in it was told that Hayom is also prepared as double player.:eek:

That will only happen in order to confuse the opponents... Hayom-Alvent maybe?!? :p Heck, even INA fans will be confused if Hayom plays doubles... :p

[SibugiChai]

Sunday May 2, 2010

Dionysius is the player to watch in Finals, says Choong Hann

KUALA LUMPUR: Dionysius Hayom Rumbaka’s name may be quite a tongue twister.
But according to veteran Wong Choong Hann, badminton fans had better get used to pronouncing it because the Indonesian youngster is set to be one of the bright stars to watch out for at this year’s Thomas Cup Finals, which will be held at Putra Stadium in Bukit Jalil from May 9-16.


Dionysius, the world number 26, is the reserve player in the Indonesian squad. The others are regulars Taufik Hidayat, Sony Dwi Kuncoro and Simon Santoso.


He was selected ahead of Tommy Sugiarto and it could be due to his fighting performance against Chen Jin of China before bowing out 16-21, 21-19, 20-22 in the opening round of the All-England in Birmingham in March.


Tommy, who is son of the legendary Icuk, did not make the cut despite having had the experience of being the reserve in the squad at the last edition in Jakarta two years ago.


Choong Hann, who will play in the second singles for Malaysia, said that Dionysius had all the qualities needed to go far in the game.


“Having played so long, players like me can spot those with talent and I am convinced that there is something special about Dionysius. He is skilful and I have not seen one like him for some time,” said Choong Hann.


“He has a certain quality in him that sets him apart from several youngsters who have come through the pipeline in Indonesia.”


Besides Dionysius, Choong Hann also expects Japan’s Kenichi Tago, Denmark’s Jan O Jorgensen and Shon Wan-ho of South Korea and China’s Chen Long to take over the mantle from the seasoned campaigners.


“Some of the senior players have been recalled to play for their respective countries in the Finals. But this does not mean the current youngsters are not good enough but they are just going through a transition process now,” he said.


“The 21-point rally scoring format has allowed players like me to stay longer than we ought to. But I am confident a new era of players is just waiting to take over.”

[jamesd20]

Interesting that WCH thinks it is the scoring system that has enabled older players to keep going longer. I think he is being polite, if the older players weren't any good the young player would have already took over.

Anyway I agree with him on Rumbaka & shon wan-ho (how old is shon?)

[SibugiChai]

Interesting that WCH thinks it is the scoring system that has enabled older players to keep going longer. I think he is being polite, if the older players weren't any good the young player would have already took over.

Anyway I agree with him on Rumbaka & shon wan-ho (how old is shon?)

i think WCH meant it... before the new scoring system... players usually retire around 28...

[miksss]

I dont know when i saw Hayom play he is a talented and charismatic at court.
Keep your spirit Hayom!

[miksss]

I dont know Everytime when i saw Hayom play he is a talented and charismatic at court.
Keep your spirit Hayom!

[CLELY]

Hayom next tournaments, SIN & INA SS. In Singapore, he has tough draw. Barring any upsets, he will take on top-seed Lee Chong Wei at R/16.

[miksss]

Gambateh hayom..!
INA have good regeneration at MS,since the bad form of taufik,INA produce sony and simon,and hayom is the third generation..
INA not only depend to 1 MS.
haha..

[Yoppy]

Back to back lost to LCW. Does anyone know how well did he do on those matches?

[Krisna]

Hayom lost in rubber set during SIN Open...
Then, he lost in straight set during INA Open...

[Yoppy]

Hi,

Just wondering if someone have the video link (youtube or something) of Hayom playing? I can only find the one he played againts TH and the angle is so terrible and just can not enjoy it.

[Yoppy]

Hayom lost in rubber set during SIN Open...
Then, he lost in straight set during INA Open...

I see, at least he would have learnt a lot from the wolrd no.1

[Yoppy]

Hayom seems (from people comments and facebook) to struggle againts the Thai opponent at Taipei open

[wilcan]

Hayom seems (from people comments and facebook) to struggle againts the Thai opponent at Taipei open
still need time to adapt with court i think

[Yoppy]

still need time to adapt with court i think

yes, you are right. Hayom is progressing well to the SF and will meet SWH tomorrow. I think its their 1st meeting, let's hope both Hayom and Simon to win. It will be nice to see all INA final.

[wilcan]

yes, you are right. Hayom is progressing well to the SF and will meet SWH tomorrow. I think its their 1st meeting, let's hope both Hayom and Simon to win. It will be nice to see all INA final.

young gun vs young gun
i hope hayom win this match
hayom really have agility and deceptive shot..

[ctjcad]

..DHR still can only muster the 2009 Australia Open GP title against the likes of:
Luke Charlesworth, Gurusaidatt R.M.V., Andrew Smith, Matthieu Lo Ying Ping, Yan Kit Chan, Alamsyah Yunus

[Yoppy]

Just finished watching Hayom match againts WKW. Still has a lot to improve, but overall a great potential. He's got very powerful smash, backhand and net play (like TH). But unlike TH he's a little bit more agressive. I think he can improve on the defence and game reading/tactic. IMO once the current older generation is out of the picture, he will be one of the main force to be recon.

[drquick]

...IMO once the current older generation is out of the picture, he will be one of the main force to be recon.

as long as he could step up and maintain his performance. don't wanna Hayom to be the next MAS AE champions MHH.

[sen]

if he won the Taipei Open, it would be good for his confidence but he didn't. Probably takes some more time but he has to start winning against the top 10 players more often, then he will be more confident

[Yoppy]

Emmm..... this maybe a dumb question, but can someone tell me why Hayom is not participating the WC in Paris? I think his ranking should be high enough to be eligible.

[Yoppy]

as long as he could step up and maintain his performance. don't wanna Hayom to be the next MAS AE champions MHH.

Well at least MHH has won it once but Hayom still have to proof himself. I actually notice Hayom often looks down and too disappointed when losing points, its a sign of a mental weekness. In his match againts LCW, he won the 2nd set very well, in fact it was still a very much close fight until end of 3rd set. He could have beaten LCW any other day.

Go Hayom!!

[Yoppy]

if he won the Taipei Open, it would be good for his confidence but he didn't. Probably takes some more time but he has to start winning against the top 10 players more often, then he will be more confident

I agree with that its a shame he lost in the SF, but he came close on many times beating the top 10.

[Smichz]

Haha..last time when i asked his autograph,he's not really friendly.Unlike sony n the others..he kept distance with the fans.My GF was preety upset that time.Anyway,as a player,i have to admit that he got the talent,but he is not that sharp yet.Hopefully he can practice well in cipayung..

[drquick]

I see there's only one pic of Hayom so far.
Here some more pic of him, on and off court, enjoy it :

http://www1.kompas.com/data/photo/2010/05/10/3812043p.jpg
http://stat.k.kidsklik.com/data/photo/2010/07/04/0019283620X310.jpg
http://arindaarin.student.umm.ac.id/files/2010/08/hayom1.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_T7tDKn93fMM/TCv7rlWbi1I/AAAAAAAAAKk/LhO3C-C2tGQ/s1600/hayom.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_T7tDKn93fMM/TCWp2N4k8uI/AAAAAAAAAKU/5LNTIlnd6jk/s1600/hayom5.jpg

[miksss]

I see there's only one pic of Hayom so far.
Here some more pic of him, on and off court, enjoy it :

http://www1.kompas.com/data/photo/2010/05/10/3812043p.jpg
http://stat.k.kidsklik.com/data/photo/2010/07/04/0019283620X310.jpg
http://arindaarin.student.umm.ac.id/files/2010/08/hayom1.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_T7tDKn93fMM/TCv7rlWbi1I/AAAAAAAAAKk/LhO3C-C2tGQ/s1600/hayom.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_T7tDKn93fMM/TCWp2N4k8uI/AAAAAAAAAKU/5LNTIlnd6jk/s1600/hayom5.jpg

Last pic: belatrix & hayom..quite hot pair :D

[drquick]

Could be the next Alan-Susy ??? Wakakakakak...

[miksss]

Could be the next Alan-Susy ??? Wakakakakak...

Wkwkwkwkwk..!!
can be..belatrix improve a lot already..i hope she will promote to utama.. :)

[drquick]

Wkwkwkwkwk..!!
can be..belatrix improve a lot already..i hope she will promote to utama.. :)
Never saw Bela play before, but i hope you're right . so you can accept if bela move up to replace your MKY ??? hahaha...
There's some more sweet pic of both of them, i'll post them later.

[miksss]

Never saw Bela play before, but i hope you're right . so you can accept if bela move up to replace your MKY ??? hahaha...
There's some more sweet pic of both of them, i'll post them later.

Deleted =)....................

[miksss]

Never saw Bela play before, but i hope you're right . so you can accept if bela move up to replace your MKY ??? hahaha...
There's some more sweet pic of both of them, i'll post them later.

:P
You can find some the hot couple pictures in thei facebook =)

replace MKY ?
no comment :D
But i thought she will replace Rizky in utama ?
Some rumour rizky will play in WD :)

[drquick]

:P
You can find some the hot couple pictures in thei facebook =)

replace MKY ?
no comment :D
But i thought she will replace Rizky in utama ?
Some rumour rizky will play in WD :)

Yeah, i've saw them on their FB already. very nice
Thnx for the info.. Hope both player can be more succesful in the future

[drquick]

DHR path to be champion of China Masters 2010 :
1R : Chan Yan Kit (HKG)
2R : Chen Long #7 (CHN)
QF : Chen Jin #3 (CHN)
SF : LCW #1 (MAS) / BCL #5 (CHN)
F : LD #4 (CHN) / TH #2 (INA) / PSH (KOR)

In what stage his path will be end ?

[undeadshot]

DHR path to be champion of China Masters 2010 :
1R : Chan Yan Kit (HKG)
2R : Chen Long #7 (CHN)
QF : Chen Jin #3 (CHN)
SF : LCW #1 (MAS) / BCL #5 (CHN)
F : LD #4 (CHN) / TH #2 (INA) / PSH (KOR)

In what stage his path will be end ?
LCW already withdraw.
I think his path will end in QF. He might upset Chen Long. Don't rule out Chan Yan Kit though, he is a good player but with Hayom's talent I think he can squeeze past this two players.

[drquick]

LCW already withdraw.
I think his path will end in QF. He might upset Chen Long. Don't rule out Chan Yan Kit though, he is a good player but with Hayom's talent I think he can squeeze past this two players.
Oh yeah you right. I've red it before but somehow I forgot about it when i wrote my last post.
So the most possible thing for Hayom to take the title is to beat 4 CHN Best player in their home land. Woowww... what a big mission for him...!!

Alright Hayom if any chance that you read my post here just ignore it, OK.
Just do your best !!!

[undeadshot]

Oh yeah you right. I've red it before but somehow I forgot about it when i wrote my last post.
So the most possible thing for Hayom to take the title is to beat 4 CHN Best player in their home land. Woowww... what a big mission for him...!!

Alright Hayom if any chance that you read my post here just ignore it, OK.
Just do your best !!!
He should read the last line! :D
Haha, I say it is very, very hard... got the new WC champion in the QF already... give him one year or 2 years then he can start winning SS.

[miksss]

DHR path to be champion of China Masters 2010 :
1R : Chan Yan Kit (HKG)
2R : Chen Long #7 (CHN)
QF : Chen Jin #3 (CHN)
SF : LCW #1 (MAS) / BCL #5 (CHN)
F : LD #4 (CHN) / TH #2 (INA) / PSH (KOR)

In what stage his path will be end ?

Still need more consistency...
Hayom also can end his journey in r1..
but im sure if he pass r1..QF in hand =D
That chinese ms almost beaten by Hayom in AE.. Hayom just no lucky that time =D

[drquick]

He should read the last line! :D
Haha, I say it is very, very hard... got the new WC champion in the QF already... give him one year or 2 years then he can start winning SS.
That's why I wrote the last line. just taking my fantasy going wild for a while ...hahahahaha


Still need more consistency...
Hayom also can end his journey in r1..
but im sure if he pass r1..QF in hand =D
That chinese ms almost beaten by Hayom in AE.. Hayom just no lucky that time =D
Wow ...look you have enough confident on Hayom. Let's hope so... Amen to you

[miksss]

That's why I wrote the last line. just taking my fantasy going wild for a while ...hahahahaha


Wow ...look you have enough confident on Hayom. Let's hope so... Amen to you

Oh my good i forgot Chen Long just crowned Birtbuger open tittle right??.. =P

So NOT easy meat for Hayom to beat him..

[undeadshot]

Still need more consistency...
Hayom also can end his journey in r1..
but im sure if he pass r1..QF in hand =D
That chinese ms almost beaten by Hayom in AE.. Hayom just no lucky that time =D
Chen Long is no easy meat. :)
But Hayom is no easy meat too! :eek:

[drquick]

Oh my good i forgot Chen Long just crowned Birtbuger open tittle right??.. =P

So NOT easy meat for Hayom to beat him..


Chen Long is no easy meat. :)
But Hayom is no easy meat too! :eek:

Hayom vs Chen Long will be an exciting to see. Seing their meet will like seing the future of Badminton MS.

[miksss]

Hayom vs Chen Long will be an exciting to see. Seing their meet will like seing the future of Badminton MS.

Yup..it is exiciting to see Hayom play.
But he is not that young,already 21 right ?
=(

[drquick]

Yup..it is exiciting to see Hayom play.
But he is not that young,already 21 right ?
=(
you may right, but consider that many shuttlers now can still play and rocking at near and past 30's age (something that rarely did by shuttlers of 90's and below, especially from Asia) I think Hayom despite 21 yo already, has a bright future ahead.

[undeadshot]

Chen Long also should be 21 yrs of age.

[drquick]

Chen Long also should be 21 yrs of age.
Yeaahh ..and already he is unthroned as the "crown prince" of Lin Dan and give the title to WZM.
Surely Chen Long has something to prove to the CHN badminton fans. It could be the time for him

[miksss]

you may right, but consider that many shuttlers now can still play and rocking at near and past 30's age (something that rarely did by shuttlers of 90's and below, especially from Asia) I think Hayom despite 21 yo already, has a bright future ahead.

Agree..
Nowadays its hard to find another TH that can already be top MS before 20 y.o.

IMO,we should wait some years more to see our shuttler are already prepare well in mentally and skill..maybe when they are 25 above..
earlier is better..
:)

no need to force the youngsters to be the champion,let them played well first..all need process..

:)

[Yoppy]

no need to force the youngsters to be the champion,let them played well first..all need process..

:)
So no need for military style training for him? :)

[miksss]

So no need for military style training for him? :)

The process include all military training,mentally training,etc..

[drquick]

So no need for military style training for him? :)

do you mean take him to the TNI academy in Magelang and train him there just like it's did to the Pratama few yrs ago ??? ;)

[Yoppy]

do you mean take him to the TNI academy in Magelang and train him there just like it's did to the Pratama few yrs ago ??? ;)
Hold on, you mean there is such a thing?? Waw im impressed. Did Hayom go?

[drquick]

Hold on, you mean there is such a thing?? Waw im impressed. Did Hayom go?

I don't think so. I believe Hayom still in Djarum when PBSI send the pratamas to Magelang. And Hayom never in pratamas, he get through Utama when join Pelatnas i think.

[drquick]

Hold on, you mean there is such a thing?? Waw im impressed. Did Hayom go?

I don't think so. I believe Hayom still in Djarum when PBSI send the pratamas to Magelang. And Hayom never in pratamas, he get through Utama when join Pelatnas i think.

[drquick]

What the hell is wrong with Hayom. he's easily ruined by Chen Long, ot of prediction.
Probably he can't stand out to be the only hope for INA MS in such a big tourney.. Hopefully he can do much better in Japan.
Hayom was ruined and so my BS team ...hiks 3x

[habsq]

Is he actually improving while he's in pelatnas?

[undeadshot]

I thought it would go down to a rubber, not 10-21; 12-21...

[ctjcad]

Is he actually improving while he's in pelatnas?
..that question passes my mind once in a while..hmm..

[Yoppy]

Hayom lost to BCL :crying::crying::crying:

[OneToughBirdie]

..that question passes my mind once in a while..hmm..

When TH burst into badminton scene as did LD, both are very young and exudes the kind of confidence that champions have and their impact in the sport were felt right away, both are winners and prodigy of the sport. Rumba is what, 20+ yrs old and still a 'prospect', that proves it is so difficult to find another TH in INA.

[naistav]

When TH burst into badminton scene as did LD, both are very young and exudes the kind of confidence that champions have and their impact in the sport were felt right away, both are winners and prodigy of the sport. Rumba is what, 20+ yrs old and still a 'prospect', that proves it is so difficult to find another TH in INA.
Even Sony and Simon burst before their 20, although not as big as TH did.
So, Hayom to replace TH? Most probably not.
Hayom to backup before new talent emerge? Let'see

[OneToughBirdie]

Even Sony and Simon burst before their 20, although not as big as TH did.
So, Hayom to replace TH? Most probably not.
Hayom to backup before new talent emerge? Let'see

If you watch TH play PG in AE99, the speed in the 2 players are incredible. I saw TH in WC05, that was a complete player, every part of his game was at the top. SDK and SS are good players, concur with you. TH in his late 20s is still the #1 in INA, and that tells you it is not that easy to find another one, even in a badminton power nation as INA. You can say the same for LD, LCW and PG too. Unless things change in a hurry, after these 4 fellas retire, the next competition for WC is sure looking easier.

[xavYPC]

after LCW , TH and PG retire the chance of china winning WC higher than it ever was...hopefully other young MS is matured enought to give proper challenge to china by then...
expecting kenichi tago , victor axelsen and other young player to rise and take the center stage in the future

[naistav]

If you watch TH play PG in AE99, the speed in the 2 players are incredible. I saw TH in WC05, that was a complete player, every part of his game was at the top. SDK and SS are good players, concur with you. TH in his late 20s is still the #1 in INA, and that tells you it is not that easy to find another one, even in a badminton power nation as INA. You can say the same for LD, LCW and PG too. Unless things change in a hurry, after these 4 fellas retire, the next competition for WC is sure looking easier.
Agree.
Sorry to say, that I have to conclude (at least for me), that this thread or its title is no longer applicable.
INA need better than Hayom to say that INA have rising star.
Even Hayom most probably will not be as good as Sony and Simon, let alone TH.
And this become worse considering current trends that showed young INA players didn't improve after recruited to Pelatnas.

[OneToughBirdie]

after LCW , TH and PG retire the chance of china winning WC higher than it ever was...hopefully other young MS is matured enought to give proper challenge to china by then...
expecting kenichi tago , victor axelsen and other young player to rise and take the center stage in the future

IMHO, KT is a flash in the pan, his defense is terrible. Once upon a time, LCW is not that good, but since LCW improves, make that excels, in defense and lately his smash (it kills BCL in JO10), that makes him a top 1-2 player. As for VA, where is he? After PG, DEN is in trouble, same goes for LCW when MAS has to still rely on HH (on dear) and WCH, KOR has the lone PSH and has to bring back LHI, INA still the trio. Chris thread on CHN CBL, that will produce even more talents, just a few weeks ago, here came along a Chou guy who beat the current WC, now, how many Chous, Zhangs, Chens, and what nots are in CHN, scary.


Agree.
Sorry to say, that I have to conclude (at least for me), that this thread or its title is no longer applicable.
INA need better than Hayom to say that INA have rising star.
Even Hayom most probably will not be as good as Sony and Simon, let alone TH.
And this become worse considering current trends that showed young INA players didn't improve after recruited to Pelatnas.

I have posted before, that CHN will rule badminton esp in MS and WS, the way CHN dominate table tennis that the real competition is within the chinese team...just look at who beat WX in JO10, not someone from the rest of the world. Get used to it.

[xavYPC]

KT just turn 21 this year... even lcw wrote in his facebook that KT was talented guy...

81209

and i believe he had what it take to improve given enough time...who know xD

[george@chongwei]

I doubt that's the REAL lcw;)

[jasonmarc]

I doubt that's the REAL lcw;)

Me too, thats not real datuk Lee la.......where's the 'maybe....maybe....maybe....' LOL

[limsy]

real lcw suppose to have
'Maybe'
"Maybe"
lol

[xavYPC]

icic...dont mind my post then xD
but you get my point...dont lose hope with up and coming junior player :)

[smashwide]

SDK got 10 pages, Hayom Rumbaka 13 pages???
SDK with few SS titles but Hayom "0" titles...
I am pity SDK. Hayom need to work hard and become SDK.

[Yoppy]

Hayom into the SF of INA GP. If he wins it, he may meet TH in the final. And that will be the old vs new of INA MS

[miksss]

Hayom into the SF of INA GP. If he wins it, he may meet TH in the final. And that will be the old vs new of INA MS

Hope Hayom can revenge against TH..he lost to TH in 3 tight set last year(Taipei GPG).

[Krisna]

Hayom into the SF of INA GP. If he wins it, he may meet TH in the final. And that will be the old vs new of INA MS

Prince Hayom will have a 40% chance of winning against King Taufik this week... Maybe next year his chances will be 50%... ;)

[Krisna]

We shall see Hayom vs. Taufik live on TV One tmrw........ ;)

[miksss]

Congrates hayom for your first GPG Final...go and take it!

[Yoppy]

The final i've been waiting for :)
Cmon Hayom...!!

[miksss]

Hayom must improve his defence. :)

[Yoppy]

Hayom must improve his defence. :)i second that. Hayom net tricks are excelent, smash also not bad, backhand, dropshot are also good. He needs more speed and defence, maybe he should watch how LCW done it

[Krisna]

i second that. Hayom net tricks are excelent, smash also not bad, backhand, dropshot are also good. He needs more speed and defence, maybe he should watch how LCW done it

LCW is just outstanding in speed and defence... A hard act to follow... :p Even for Hayom...

Hayom's smash is more awesome than many people's smash...

[nick.h]

i've nvr seen this dude play apart from taipei open 2009 against taufik on youtube...but his height and everyone's comments on him are on very positive notes...although at 22, taufik had already reached 2 all england finals and won AG gold...but then again not everyone can fill in those big shoes of his :p

[george@chongwei]

LCW is just outstanding in speed and defence... A hard act to follow... :p Even for Hayom...

Hayom's smash is more awesome than many people's smash...
Yes, agree.. is smash to opponent's body is amazing.. Saw that when he played against taufik yesterday.

[Yoppy]

JAKARTA, KOMPAS.com - BWF ranking men's singles players, such as Dionysius Hayom Rumbaka, Alamsyah Yunus, and Andre Kurniawan Tedjono, jumped on this weekend.

Hayom Rumbaka now ranked 19th or up 5 levels from last week's rankings. Meanwhile, Jonah Alam also rose eight-level to rank 31. The PB Djarum players, Andre Kurniawan Tedjono, perched on the rank-33 or up 10 levels compared to last week.

Jump in greater perceived the men's singles player who is above the top 10. Aris Trisnanto an increase of 48 levels that are now perched on the rank-108. So did former players Pelatnas Cipayung, Tommy Sugiarto, son of former national player Icuk Sugiarto, up 49 levels to rank 115th.

In addition to the above, ranking the main players are not shifted compared to Indonesia last week. Taufik Hidayat is still the highest at fifth. He followed Simon Santoso, who is ranked the 7th and Sony Dwi Kuncoro in the rankings to 11th.

A complete list of players Indonesia:
1. Lee Chong Wei [MAS]
2. Peter Hoeg Gade [DEN]
3. Lin Dan [CHN]
4. Chen Jin [CHN]
5. Taufik Hidayat [INA]
6. Chen Long [CHN]
7. Simon Santoso [INA]
8. Bao Chunlai [CHN]
9. Nguyen Tien Minh [VIE]
10. Boonsak Ponsana [THA]
11. Sony Dwi Kuncoro [INA]

19. (5) Dionysius Hayom Rumbaka [INA]
31. (8) Alam Jonah [INA]
33. (10) Andre Kurniawan Tedjono [INA]
94. (-1) Indra Bagus Ade Chandra [INA]
108. (48) Ari Trisnanto NTO [INA]
115. (49) Tommy Sugiarto TO [ENG]
135. (42) Adnan Fauzi [INA]

[miksss]

Bravo Hayom,just now he beat Simon in 3 sets.

Bravo thunder smash!

[Krisna]

Bravo Hayom,just now he beat Simon in 3 sets.

Bravo thunder smash!

It is possible that Hayom will become the official INA #3 next year... :) Seems like Sony is struggling with his injury a lot lately... And as we can see today on TV, Hayom has more firepower than Simon... :) In the long-run, Hayom will outshine Simon...

[huangkwokhau]

i second that. Hayom net tricks are excelent, smash also not bad, backhand, dropshot are also good. He needs more speed and defence, maybe he should watch how LCW done it

He needs to be patience as well....as we saw him against Simon, he rushed it many times and made his own errors

[miksss]

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT3Euc38qfMqq57lsJa-IbqclvHmGzZgepY3iYgABdCRcDFn7cvHrpNdjwX

:cool: :cool: :D:D

[limsy]

Hayom Rumbaka now ranked 19th or up 5 levels from last week's rankings. Meanwhile, Jonah Alam also rose eight-level to rank 31. The PB Djarum players, Andre Kurniawan Tedjono, perched on the rank-33 or up 10 levels compared to last week.

19. (5) Dionysius Hayom Rumbaka [INA]


after a month
hayom is now the 2nd ms behind taufik,ranked 18
http://bwf.tournamentsoftware.com/ranking/category.aspx?id=1806&category=472

[miksss]

Phew...after skip so many tourney,simon and sony drop to 23 & 27

[extremenanopowe]

reminds me of joko. late developer. hopefully some malaysians also can follow suit. ;)

[Yoppy]

reminds me of joko. late developer. hopefully some malaysians also can follow suit. ;)Yes it would be a lesser fun without MAS players around

[Krisna]

Yes it would be a lesser fun without MAS players around

Yea, true... but I am sure MAS will produce another LCW in a couple of years... Success begets success... We saw in throughout INA, MAS, DEN badminton history...

[OneToughBirdie]

Yea, true... but I am sure MAS will produce another LCW in a couple of years... Success begets success... We saw in throughout INA, MAS, DEN badminton history...

There is no young prospect in sight in MAS camp that BAM can develop into another LCW, so in a couple of years, that may not happen lah;)

[extremenanopowe]

Yup agreed with OTB. ;)

[Krisna]

There is no young prospect in sight in MAS camp that BAM can develop into another LCW, so in a couple of years, that may not happen lah;)


Yup agreed with OTB. ;)

Ooo?!? Nobody outstanding between 15-18 years old? Denmark already found their future in Viktor Axelsen! As for INA, my hopes are with Riyanto Subagja and Shesar Hiren Rustavito... for now...

[miksss]

JAKARTA, KOMPAS.com - The only mainstay Pelatnas Cipayung in number the men's singles final at the Super Series tournament in 2010 in Hong Kong (6-12 December), Dionysius Hayom Rumbaka, set a target of translucent round of eight. That is because the 22-year-old player was eager to try out skills against "Super Dan".

"My target is can qualify for the last eight for the round that there is a chance I can meet Lin Dan. I want to feel how to play against big players like him (Lin Dan)," said Hayom in Jakarta, Thursday (12/02/2010).

From drawing the match, Hayom will be confronted with the host player, Yun Hu. If won, in the second round he will fight the winner between the player qualification with eighth seed from Vietnam, Nguyen Tien Minh.
While Lin Dan will be challenged in January O Jorgensen of Denmark. Where can defeat the winner between Wan Ho Shon against Chan Yan Kit, then the victory over world number four will face Hayom.
Hayom also claim to be doing repairs, especially in terms of physical ability. While on the issue of mental play against Lin Dan, he said no problem.

"My shortcomings in the physical. This is very important in the game because if you have good physical ability,wou will easily play with any strategy," said Hayom.


http://olahraga.kompas.com/read/2010/12/02/16210338/Hayom.Ingin.Jajal.Kehebatan..quot.Super.Dan.quot.

[Krisna]

At this point of his skills and career development, Hayom has a....... 20% chance of defeating Lin Dan... :p

[naistav]

Hayom is too confident and too eager to meet LD :D
But the result, he can't even pass Hu Yun at R/32.
He still has a lot to learn to manage his form. Hu Yun is dangerous and sharp player, he destroyed Andre KT tamely once and he also copied some of TH style of playing. Same like Hayom did.

[Yoppy]

ATM i almost lost hope in Hayom. Someone needs to remind him, its a long way to the top if he wants to rock n' roll

[miksss]

Congrats Hayom for winning the India GP title!

From what i watched when he face Kashyap(sf) and Suppanyu(f),Hayom absolutely dominating the net..when i think his opponent already give a great netshot and he will lift the ball,but hayom even return with a great netshot also,then his opponent lift it and hayom just thunder smash it.
Defence also wise already,i dont know whether his opponent has a weak smash or what,but from what i see Suppanyu is a big smasher tough..
Hayom's backhand smash also amazing one(taufik wannabe??):D.

what i want from hayom in future is :
-dont underestimate whoever your opponent,from his face reaction i can see it(just imo :) :) ).
-While winning a point,he can have a small scream,coz i rare see him scream when winning a point :D.

I hope hayom will more consistent.

thats all :)

Anyway, i think Hayom is TH Kw2. :D

[Krisna]

Hayom's backhand smash also amazing one(taufik wannabe??):D.

Anyway, i think Hayom is TH Kw2. :D

Taufik IS Hayom's idol! ;)
What does TH Kw2 mean?

[miksss]

Taufik IS Hayom's idol! ;)
What does TH Kw2 ean?

its mean hayom similar to taufik.
hehe :D

[fathonezic]

Taufik IS Hayom's idol! ;)
What does TH Kw2 mean?


haha :D:D
do you know some imitation in KW1, KW 2, KW Super ?? :D:D
But Ithink, Hayom is TH KW Super, not just KW 2 :D:D
he is the best imitation of TH so far :D

[naistav]

haha :D:D
do you know some imitation in KW1, KW 2, KW Super ?? :D:D
But Ithink, Hayom is TH KW Super, not just KW 2 :D:D
he is the best imitation of TH so far :D
Ehm.. his rival on this matter is Hu Yun from HKG :D