World Championship - Brosolat out

After the bad luck over Tine Rasmussen who spent all spring injured, it is now Denmark's second best women's single, Nanna Brosolat, who will have to skip an important competition. The 25 year old Dane will see Tine Rasmussen leave for the Worlds alone.

Brosolat got a foot injury in Singapore Open and couldn't heal it on time. She will be out for another week before she resumes training. She was set to play Michelle Chan of New Zealand, and then, Zhou Mi of Hong Kong in the second round in Hyderabad.

Before Nanna Brosolat, England's mixed pair of Blair and Bankier announced that they would not make the trip to India being both injured.

As for Bao Chunlai, media sources in China are contradictory and all is known is that the tall left hander doesn't not expect much from the event as he is still experiencing trouble with his knee even if he has gone back to training in Qindao with the rest of the team after medical care in Hong Kong.After the bad luck over Tine Rasmussen who spent all spring injured, it is now Denmark's second best women's single, Nanna Brosolat, who will have to skip an important competition. The 25 year old Dane will see Tine Rasmussen leave for the Worlds alone.

As for Bao Chunlai, media sources in China are contradictory and all is known is that the tall left hander doesn't not expect much from the event as he is still experiencing trouble with his knee even if he has gone back to training in Qindao with the rest of the team after medical care in Hong Kong

really impressed by bcl,with injury,still can win 3 titles this year:eek:
so geng,wonder how good he can be if injury free??:cool:

really impressed by bcl,with injury,still can win 3 titles this year:eek:
so geng,wonder how good he can be if injury free??:cool:

Yes, he is really 'extra ordinary' good............! :D

Or its CL (ABC), BP ( Sg Open) really sucks......! :cool:..........:D:D

Saina Nehwal......will be the next to withdraw because of Chicken Pox..........sigh..

Saina Nehwal......will be the next to withdraw because of Chicken Pox..........sigh..

Really bad news for IND bdm fans when Saina may be absent to compete in her homeground WC. Get well soon, Saina!

Saina Nehwal......will be the next to withdraw because of Chicken Pox..........sigh..
OMG, so sad to hear this news :(

...the most prominent name is definitely Saina. A real bummer for her and her many Indian baddy supporters as this was supposed to be the biggest baddy tourney to be held in her home country....
Oh well, if she can't make it, then she'll try again next time..:cool:

World Championship - Brosolat outHow about a source, or better yet, a link for that?

Saina Nehwal......will be the next to withdraw because of Chicken Pox..........sigh..

OMG, this is a very sad...sad news, a real bummer :(. Actually I hope to see her win the WC09 title, but now that will never happen. Get well soon, Saina.:)

I voted Saina in the polls. Do I get an alternative vote now that she has pulled out?:D:D:D

Saina Nehwal......will be the next to withdraw because of Chicken Pox..........sigh..

That is unfortunate indeed. But according to various news sources, she is not expected to withdraw. She should recover in a few days and I doubt she would miss the WC in her own country. The concern is she missed some training time. But again, some rest might do her good and surprise everyone :D

As for Bao Chunlai, media sources in China are contradictory and all is known is that the tall left hander doesn't not expect much from the event as he is still experiencing trouble with his knee...

He's just setting up the stage so that his next 'performance' against Lin Dan is more believable.. He will loose <5 to LD in 10mins and blame it on his 'injury' and LD will be fresh for the QF next day..

How about a source, or better yet, a link for that?


http://sporten.tv2.dk/article.php/id-23671409.html

This link confirm that Brosolat is out of the worlds....sadly!

How about a source, or better yet, a link for that?
opps, sorry. I forgot to quote the source, it is sourced from badzine.
http://www.badzine.info/index.php/news/newsflash/61-newsflash/1960-world-championships-brosolat-out.html

opps, sorry. I forgot to quote the source, it is sourced from badzine.
http://www.badzine.info/index.php/news/newsflash/61-newsflash/1960-world-championships-brosolat-out.htmlMuch appreciated.

I doubt your prediction will come true... :D

He's just setting up the stage so that his next 'performance' against Lin Dan is more believable.. He will loose <5 to LD in 10mins and blame it on his 'injury' and LD will be fresh for the QF next day..

with byes in the draw and now withdrawals, shouldn't there have been a waiting list of players?

with byes in the draw and now withdrawals, shouldn't there have been a waiting list of players?

Badwoman: Unfortunately, WC doesn't work like other Super Series! A player has to be qualify to enter to play at the WC! Read the regulations!

I hope there won't be much withdrawal this time around.

The rules do say that there doesn't have to be a complete 64 draw,
however, in phase 2 (by May 18) BWF can invite any further players/pairs due to players/pairs originally eligible not entering, and again in phase 3 (by June 1) due to players/pairs not entering players/pairs can be invited,

so why not fill the drawers by June 1, then there will only be withdrawals after the draw has been made, and no gaps due to byes

rules can be changed,
my question is: shouldn't the tournament have a full draw and thus the rules changed to encourage a full draw. Doesn't a full draw make a more interesting tournament for the spectators? Doesn't a full draw improve more players by giving them a top experience?

Badwoman: Unfortunately, WC doesn't work like other Super Series! A player has to be qualify to enter to play at the WC! Read the regulations!
..that's right. BWF has already put in rules & regulations in regards to who & how many can participate.
The rules do say that there doesn't have to be a complete 64 draw,
however, in phase 2 (by May 18) BWF can invite any further players/pairs due to players/pairs originally eligible not entering, and again in phase 3 (by June 1) due to players/pairs not entering players/pairs can be invited,

so why not fill the drawers by June 1, then there will only be withdrawals after the draw has been made, and no gaps due to byes
..this has been brought up before. And an explanation has been mentioned. Please see this link below, post #49:
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1215884#post1215884

The thing is, BWF has offered a chance to many players, even all the way to rank 150 and past rank 150. If none of them qualified or accepted the offer, what should BWF do? If BWF were to expand the opportunity to the world's top 200, then how abt to the world's top 250? The latter would say & ask, "hey, how come they don't invite me or give me a chance?". Where does BWF draw the line of how many players/pairs are eligible?
And then, even if BWF did set the last eligibility date on June 1, what is the possibility of them filling out the whole draw?
rules can be changed,
my question is: shouldn't the tournament have a full draw and thus the rules changed to encourage a full draw. Doesn't a full draw make a more interesting tournament for the spectators? Doesn't a full draw improve more players by giving them a top experience?
- Shouldn't the tournament have a full draw? Ideally, yes. But realistically, it's not as easy as it sounds.
- Doesn't a full draw make a more interesting tournament for the spectators? Ideally, yes. But reality, it's never been achieved before.
- Doesn't a full draw improve more players by giving them a top experience? Depends & this is open to discussion. We can also point to the Olympics. A lot of unknown players, a few of them probably don't belong in the Olympics simply if one gauges by their skills, have been given chances. But have they improved even if they're exposed to "a top experience"? The only way a player improves is by going out, getting him/herself exposed to and competing in more international tourneys (SS, GP, GP Gold, International Challenges, T&UC, SC etc.). Not so much by competing in a WC event or an Olympics event.

I think, badwoman is right that the current system is far from perfectness, and the question is not about the players below top 150. It affects the good players within top 50 as well. The weakest point in the current system, in my opinion, is the rule about 3 phases of invitation process. In many cases it is well known that some players (mainly low-ranked) won't be sent, but BWF needs to ask the National Federations 3 times in turn, and each time they ask only about small number of players (a few vacancies opened). So, in many cases they don't have time to reach the "150" border and start inviting players according to 3.2.6 regulation, allowing up to 4 entries from a country, even ranked below 8 and below 24.

How it can be overcome? For example, each National Federation send to BWF a list of players/pairs they want to send to WC. The lists can be (and should be) with "margins", so if anybody withdrew due to injury, or whatever, they immediately know the replacement. In this case the "up to date" list of qualified players/pairs can be easily maintained and published on the BWF website. The draw should be maid not too early, I think 3 weeks before the start is enough (for SS it's 2 weeks, right?). In this way we would have almost full draw, and more competitive, with more good players included.

More detailed considerations can be as follows:

- As soon as any "qualified" player withdrew, the corresponding National Federation must inform BWF about that, in order to update the list.
- After starting the "qualification period" (in our case - April 30) the National Federations can only exclude players/pairs from their "want lists", or make a replacement by the lower ranked players. The idea is that if anybody is already qualified, he/she cannot be excluded due to the other National Federation's actions.
- Sometimes National Federations want their lower ranked players to participate instead of higher ranked, but it's not known apriory whether they would qualify or not. The current "3 phase invitation" system partially solves the problem. In a new proposed system it can be done in a different way. For example, the Federations initially send to BWF their "want lists" with the preferable order of players/pairs to qualify. Then the "preferable order" is used if it provides the same number of entries for the given Federation as the standard one, otherwise the last one (higher ranked players first) is used. In general, the algorithm is not so simple, taking into considerations many Federations and how their "preferable orders" can affect each other, but the solution exists. I simply don't want going too deep into technical details now.

...The weakest point in the current system, in my opinion, is the rule about 3 phases of invitation process. In many cases it is well known that some players (mainly low-ranked) won't be sent, but BWF needs to ask the National Federations 3 times in turn, and each time they ask only about small number of players (a few vacancies opened). So, in many cases they don't have time to reach the "150" border and start inviting players according to 3.2.6 regulation, allowing up to 4 entries from a country, even ranked below 8 and below 24.

How it can be overcome? For example, each National Federation send to BWF a list of players/pairs they want to send to WC. The lists can be (and should be) with "margins", so if anybody withdrew due to injury, or whatever, they immediately know the replacement. In this case the "up to date" list of qualified players/pairs can be easily maintained and published on the BWF website. The draw should be maid not too early, I think 3 weeks before the start is enough (for SS it's 2 weeks, right?). In this way we would have almost full draw, and more competitive, with more good players included.

More detailed considerations can be as follows:

...
- Sometimes National Federations want their lower ranked players to participate instead of higher ranked, but it's not known apriory whether they would qualify or not. The current "3 phase invitation" system partially solves the problem. In a new proposed system it can be done in a different way. For example, the Federations initially send to BWF their "want lists" with the preferable order of players/pairs to qualify. Then the "preferable order" is used if it provides the same number of entries for the given Federation as the standard one, otherwise the last one (higher ranked players first) is used. In general, the algorithm is not so simple, taking into considerations many Federations and how their "preferable orders" can affect each other, but the solution exists. I simply don't want going too deep into technical details now.
..personally, i'm not surprised if BWF had brought up or at least thought about the idea(s) above.

- If 3 phases are not enough, how many phases are necessary to satisfy all the parties involved?? 4x? 5x?? 6x?? 7x??..:confused:

- The problem with withdrawal to injury is that we just don’t know how soon or late will the withdrawal occur. How abt if the injury occurs on the last week prior to the start of the event, will they re-scramble and re-adjust or even do another draw??
Btw, even in regular SS or GP or GP Gold tourneys, with the draws being made at least 2 weeks before, there are still byes.

- If i understand what badwoman was trying to point out, this whole discussion basically deals with how to fill as many players/pairs in the draws without having any byes, if minimal at best. If that’s the case, then perhaps BWF could simply increase the no. of qualified players, per ranking group, by 1 additional number, rather than the current numbers. And keep the current "3 phases".
Say: National Federation with players ranked 1-25 can have up to 5 players/pairs. Then from rank 25-150, 4 players/pairs. Then from rank 150 and lower, 3 pairs. Or increase the Continental representation to a minimum of 2 players/pairs instead of 1...and so on and so on.
Of course, this also hinges on the qualified players/pairs accepting the invitation, as clearly, there are players/pairs who refused the invitation even for this yr's WC.
However, a counter-argument can be made against this option/system as it will only allow players/pairs from “strong” baddy countries to fill up more slots.

After all the discussions about the rules of eligability and how to get a full draw, back to the topic off this thread ;)

Due to ankle injury both Rachel van Cutsen and Jorrit de Ruijter have withdrawn from this year's WC. So the doubles pairings of Rachel van Cutsen/Paulien van Dooremalen, Jorrit de Ruijter/Ilse Vaessen and Jorrit de Ruijter/Jurgen Wouters are out of the draw. Even more byes in the first round :D

Nina Vislova has withdrawn due to injury. This affects XD Durkin/Vislova and WD Sorokina/Vislova.:(

Much appreciated.

:D Trip cancelled? This news is weeks old anyway ;) ... (would've posted it if there was a topic open then)

According to ANTARA News Agency, 2007 World Champion Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan will not defend their title in Hyderabad, India.

Here's the link in Bahasa -- http://www.antaranews.com/berita/1249404441/kido-hendra-absen-di-kejuaraan-dunia

According to ANTARA News Agency, 2007 World Champion Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan will not defend their title in Hyderabad, India.

Here's the link in Bahasa -- http://www.antaranews.com/berita/1249404441/kido-hendra-absen-di-kejuaraan-dunia
OMG, it is the biggest bad news so far :( Does this mean that Kido has not fully recovered from his injury? What is the article talking about? I can't read Bahasa :(

According to ANTARA News Agency, 2007 World Champion Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan will not defend their title in Hyderabad, India.

Here's the link in Bahasa -- http://www.antaranews.com/berita/1249404441/kido-hendra-absen-di-kejuaraan-dunia


Thats a good news for CY/FHF....Suetyan.....! :D:D

What happened to MK/HS........still nursing injuries....? Less exciting if without MK/HS ...............hope they change their minds...! ;)

OMG, it is the biggest bad news so far :( Does this mean that Kido has not fully recovered from his injury? What is the article talking about? I can't read Bahasa :(

BWF Media & Communications Manager Selvaamresh Supramaniam has confirmed it after received letter from PBSI about the Olympic Champion absence. But there was no official confirmation from PBSI so far whether Kido/Setiawan will participate or not.

Thats a good news for CY/FHF....Suetyan.....! :D:D

What happened to MK/HS........still nursing injuries....? Less exciting if without MK/HS ...............hope they change their minds...! ;)
yaya, agree with you that MD will be less exciting if without MK/HS :(

OMG, it is the biggest bad news so far :( Does this mean that Kido has not fully recovered from his injury? What is the article talking about? I can't read Bahasa :(
..i would call it the biggest unfortunate (for the INA and their supporters) and maybe a fortunate (for the non-INA pairs and their supporters) news, so far..
Haiyaaaah, you're a M'sian but can't read Bahasa ar??..:p
BWF Media & Communications Manager Selvaamresh Supramaniam has confirmed it after received letter from PBSI about the Olympic Champion absence. But there was no official confirmation from PBSI so far whether Kido/Setiawan will participate or not.
..that's basically what the article is all about.
Just to add a few more:
1. News about their possible absence/withdrawal has circulated the last couple of weekends. But PBSI hasn't publicly announced/given any official explanation for their withdrawal.
2. There will be no replacement pair, in the draw, for their WO.
3. INA will rely on their other 2 MD pairs, Bona S. & M. Ahsan and Rian S. & Yonatan S.
4. The rest of the INA players are still on schedule to participate. Good to know Sony and Maria will participate despite recent news on the status of their readiness.

Disappointing news, I felt even with 3 knees, Kido/Setiawan could still go very far .....

..i would call it the biggest unfortunate (for the INA and their supporters) and maybe a fortunate (for the non-INA pairs and their supporters) news, so far..
Haiyaaaah, you're a M'sian but can't read Bahasa ar??..:p

you have to know bahasa Indonesia is slighly different from bahasa Malaysia :D Moreover, I didn't read, speak and write bahasa Malaysia since 4 years ago. :o So I have some problem in reading the article :D

you have to know bahasa Indonesia is slighly different from bahasa Malaysia :D Moreover, I didn't read, speak and write bahasa Malaysia since 4 years ago. :o So I have some problem in reading the article :D

Thats make a very pro chn team's Malaysian! .............:D:D

Suetyan...as a Malaysian, please learn back all the Bahasa Malaysia that u have left behine............its for ur own good. ;)

Thats make a very pro chn team's Malaysian! .............:D:D

Suetyan...as a Malaysian, please learn back all the Bahasa Malaysia that u have left behine............its for ur own good. ;)
because all my subjects are in English now, I not really have a chance to use BM :o

because all my subjects are in English now, I not really have a chance to use BM :o

Try read Malay news paper...it helps....:p...I m reading Berita Harian, just to keep in touch with B.M........;)

because all my subjects are in English now, I not really have a chance to use BM :o

Wah, I thought you all younger generation's malay should be better than mine. ;)

Anyway, sad also MK/Hendra not going, among non Msian MD, I like them the most.

..that's basically what the article is all about.
Just to add a few more:
1. News about their possible absence/withdrawal has circulated the last couple of weekends. But PBSI hasn't publicly announced/given any official explanation for their withdrawal.
2. There will be no replacement pair, in the draw, for their WO.
3. INA will rely on their other 2 MD pairs, Bona S. & M. Ahsan and Rian S. & Yonatan S.
4. The rest of the INA players are still on schedule to participate. Good to know Sony and Maria will participate despite recent news on the status of their readiness.

Thx Chris for your help to translate the other paragraphs of that article...And abedeng has posted the complete version with translation in News/Articles on WC 2009 thread.

Really unfortunate for INA bdm fans, slim chance to win MD title without Kido/Setiawan participation.

Try read Malay news paper...it helps....:p...I m reading Berita Harian, just to keep in touch with B.M........;)
... I only read "The Star" and "China Press" :D Let's come back to the topic, with the withdrawal of MK/HS, badminton supporters will be sad but badminton players will be happy.

... I only read "The Star" and "China Press" :D Let's come back to the topic, with the withdrawal of MK/HS, badminton supporters will be sad but badminton players will be happy.
I dont believe any professional players will be 'happy' that their fellow players are unable to complete in one of the most important tournament due to injury. even that leave them with a better chance to win, i'm sure they rather play with the best, win or lose.

I dont believe any professional players will be 'happy' that their fellow players are unable to complete in one of the most important tournament due to injury. even that leave them with a better chance to win, i'm sure they rather play with the best, win or lose.
maybe they are hiding their 'happy' in their heart, they won't let us know about that :D:p

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Jakarta (ANTARA News) - The Men's Doubles World No 1 Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan are now certain of not defending their title at the World Championships in Hyderabad, India, from 10-16 August.

This confirmation was provided by the Media & Communications Manager of the Badminton World Federation (BWF) Selvaamresh Supramaniam through short messaging service, on Tuesday night.
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It confirmed the matter after the organizers received a letter from the General Manager of the All-Indonesian Badminton Association (PBSI) regarding the withdrawal of the Olympic champions.
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Rumours of the possibility of the pair of Kido/Hendra being out of the World Championships had already circulated in these last few days before the tournament, however until now the GM of PBSI had not provided official confirmation.:


The absence of Kido/Hendra, according to Selvaam, will provide a WO (walkover) victory to their opponents in the 2nd round, Hu Chung Shien/Tsai Chia Hsin
from Taiwan since both pairts have received byes in the 1st round
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With that, Indonesia will be banking on their seventh ranked pair of Bona Septano/Mohammad Ahsan and the 11th ranked Rian Sukmawan/Yanatan Suryatama in the men's doubles event.& d' @#

Other than them, Indonesia is sending the mixed doubles defending champions Nova Widianto/Lilyana Natsir, men's singles runnerup Sony Dwi Kuncoro, champion of 2005 Taufik Hidayat, together with Simon Santoso, Maria Kristin, Adriyanti Firdasari, Greysia Polii/Nitya Krishinda, Shendy Puspa Irawati/Meiliana Jauhari and Devin Lahadri/Lita Nurlita

According to ANTARA News Agency, 2007 World Champion Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan will not defend their title in Hyderabad, India.

Here's the link in Bahasa -- http://www.antaranews.com/berita/1249404441/kido-hendra-absen-di-kejuaraan-dunia

This is a shocking and sad news :(.I just heard this info from local TV, they said Kido got sick because of food. One possibly gold medal just fly away :crying:

This is a shocking and sad news :(.I just heard this info from local TV, they said Kido got sick because of food. One possibly gold medal just fly away :crying:
food? food poisoning case again? :confused:

food? food poisoning case again? :confused:

No, according to "Okezone", it is High blood pressure...
Here is the link: http://sports.okezone.com/read/2009/08/05/40/245402/markis-hendra-batal-ke-india (in Indonesia)

wow...thats a sad news...i was looking forward to their match. they are a good pairing.

Unstable Blood pressure cause Markis Kido to pull out from WC 09................sigh...

Hope he will be OK by next tournament...........best wishes...!

food always causes problems to the players, previously was LCW, now it's MK's turn :(

food always causes problems to the players, previously was LCW, now it's MK's turn :(

Yup, seafood that caused Markis Kido was hospitalized two weeks ago (22-26 July 2009)...I have posted the article at News/Articles on WC 2009 thread.

The rules do say that there doesn't have to be a complete 64 draw,
however, in phase 2 (by May 18) BWF can invite any further players/pairs due to players/pairs originally eligible not entering, and again in phase 3 (by June 1) due to players/pairs not entering players/pairs can be invited,

so why not fill the drawers by June 1, then there will only be withdrawals after the draw has been made, and no gaps due to byes

even without the withdrawals, there are still not full draw for competitions except MS (there are still bye in the first round for WS, WD, MD and XD)... this is really a waste as for such as top competition, BWF should endeavour to achieve a full draw so that everyone should play the same number of rounds if like to obtain the champion.

According to ANTARA News Agency, 2007 World Champion Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan will not defend their title in Hyderabad, India.

Here's the link in Bahasa -- http://www.antaranews.com/berita/1249404441/kido-hendra-absen-di-kejuaraan-dunia
owh!..this is very sad indeed.
wish he could recover as soon as possible.
the chances for mas, china and korean pair to begs to md title are brighter a bit now..lol;)

Well, indonesian folks... lets look at the bright side about Kido/Hendra withdrawal, maybe this is time for young pairs Bona/Ahsan to rise up in this tournament. I hope they can reach to SF.

does anyone know why about half the canadian team has withdrawn? take a look at ms and ws.. and anna rice was telling everyone how she was ready for the challenge in india.. sigh.. i was hoping to see her do well again..

..as far as i know, one of the reasons could be the Canadian team is still in need of funding. Even some of the Canadian pairs were planning to hold a mini Doubles tourney soon, where they plan to invite Tony G. & Howard to do some exhibition matches, in order for them to raise some money/fund. I don't know the success/how much $$ they were able to raise from that tourney.

As for Anna Rice, the last time i heard (during the recent U.S. Open), she mentioned that she was planning to attend the World Championships. But don't know what happened to her plan.:confused:

Canadian competitors have to pay their own way.

Very sad about Kido/Hendra's withdrawal. Was looking forward to the doubles event.

Well, indonesian folks... lets look at the bright side about Kido/Hendra withdrawal, maybe this is time for young pairs Bona/Ahsan to rise up in this tournament. I hope they can reach to SF.

Without Kido/Setiawan, practically INA will depend on Nova/Liliyana to bag title in Hyderabad. Best luck for INA team, they leave Jakarta today.

Nina Vislova from Russia will also NOT be making the trip to Hyderabad, India this time.

Here you go>> http://www.badzine.info/index.php/news/newsflash/61-newsflash/1977-worlds-vislova-out.html

walkover mean the other team is forfeit?
I don't know if this is the same tournament that i looked for the draw, but I saw #1 MD for indo got walked over by taipei.
Well it say the taipei team on top and the word "walk over" at bottom

Poor canada team this time..:(

WORLDS - Injuries hit Canada Hard (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/index.php/news/newsflash/61-newsflash/1984-worlds-injuries-hit-canada-hard.html)

Less than a month after an impressive showing at the U.S. Open Grand Prix, nearly half the Canadian contingent has withdrawn from the World Championships in Hyderabad.

Stefan Wojcikiewicz was one of 9 Canadian semi-finalists in the U.S. Open but he had to withdraw from his semi-final match because of an injury that is also keeping him home from India. Anna Rice left Orange County a happy, but not so healthy, Grand Prix titleist and she, too, does not feel up to the trip to Asia.

"Neither is too serious," Rice told Badzine, "but we weren't able to get the
preparation training needed to perform to our maximum so better to get
healthy and prepare for next season."

Also absent from the lineup in India are Bobby Milroy, who has been afflicted with a knee injury since the spring, and Charmaine Reid. Five athletes will be showing the Maple Leaf in India next week, however, including national champions Toby Ng, William Milroy, and Fiona Mckee, as well as Derrick Ng and Adrian Liu.




anyway, wishing them all the best this time though;)
http://www.badzine.info/index.php/news/newsflash/61-newsflash/1984-worlds-injuries-hit-canada-hard.html

walkover mean the other team is forfeit?
...
..what other definition is there??..:confused:

I heard that some English team players also withdrew. Can anyone confirm?

I heard that some English team players also withdrew. Can anyone confirm?

Yes, Men double players, Richard Eidestedt and Andrew Ellis ....

Just got this from Malaysia China Press

http://www.chinapress.com.my/breaking_new.asp?a=0810bkf10.txt

England is withdrawing the whole team from this WC 09 in Hyderabad....because of terrorist Threatening in Hyderabad

..wow, they are indeed taking this terrorist threat seriously:(...If so, there goes Robertson & Clark being one of the challengers to the rest of the MD field..and their XD pairing..

..wow, they are indeed taking this terrorist threat seriously:(...If so, there goes Robertson & Clark being one of the challengers to the rest of the MD field..and their XD pairing..

Yes, MD, XD and MS...............:(:(:(

Just got this from Malaysia China Press

http://www.chinapress.com.my/breaking_new.asp?a=0810bkf10.txt

England is withdrawing the whole team from this WC 09 in Hyderabad....because of terrorist Threatening in Hyderabad
I got the news from QQ as well. England team just left India in this morning. Denmark team and Netherland team still hesitating whether to withdraw or not.

QQ: http://sports.qq.com/a/20090809/000358.htm

The first big story of these World Championships is the massive withdrawal from Team England after the latter were concerned for the safety of their players.

The event hasn’t started yet but already, one big news items will be shortly everywhere in the local press: Team England has decided to go back home before the kick-off of the event, due to the threats over the Championships. A recent story in the local press mentioned possible threats targeting the World Badminton Championships but BWF officials and organizers held a press conference immediately afterward, reassuring all teams that all measures had been taken to ensure players' safety. The local police commissioner was quoted as saying that there were no specific threats, but normal routine checks before the events.

Team England has nevertheless decided to head back home, as confirmed during the managers' meeting held in the ISTA Hotel in Hyderabad, on Sunday afternoon. According to the latest news, the teams from Scotland and Wales had decided to stay in India. The decision took effect quickly as the English were on their way back to Singapore on Sunday evening – the journey had already started out badly for the Europeans, who had seen their flight cancelled on Friday and had to leave the next morning at 6AM.

Adrian Christy, Chief Executive of Badminton England, said: "This was an incredibly tough decision and one we didn't take lightly. After the Olympic Games, this is the most prestigious Championships in the world but we were not prepared to risk the safety of our players, coaches and staff in what we felt could have been a very volatile environment.

“We are extremely grateful for the speed in which the BWF and the Organising Committee reacted to the concerns following the threat. We have carefully considered the comments made by the local police authorities and we know that they have the best interest of all competitors in mind.

“We have also listened to the advice from the Foreign Office and British High Commission. We have been in constant dialogue with them over the past couple of days. The conclusion is that safety is of paramount importance and therefore, with great regret, the team will be returning home immediately."

Ian Moss, the England Performance Director, said: “It is a disappointing outcome, especially after we had enjoyed a very good preparation at our holding camp in Doha, Qatar, last week. Our athletes were extremely well prepared for these Championships but, at the end of the day, personal safety must take priority over performance. This was a unanimous squad decision and is not reflective of the efforts made by the Organising Committee to create the safest environment possible for all athletes.”

For Peter Gade, Denmark’s top men’s singles player, the threats are a concern but so far, he and his teammates have tried to keep focussed on something else. "At the moment it’s all very quiet and calm here and of course all the Danish players are worried but also relaxed about it. Today there will be a managers' meeting and updates on the situation.”

The English team was eyeing good performances in mixed and men’s doubles mainly, with Clark/Kellogg and Robertson/Clark, while Rajiv Ouseph and Andrew Smith were involved in the men’s singles. A bad birthday for Robert Adcock who was to celebrate in Indian style. These six, along with Gabby White and Jenny Wallwork, are all now on their way back to England via Singapore.

Source: http://www.badzine.info/index.php/news/international/1992-worlds-team-england-decides-to-go-home-after-security-threats.html

I got the news from QQ as well. England team just left India in this morning. Denmark team and Netherland team still hesitating whether to withdraw or not.

QQ: http://sports.qq.com/a/20090809/000358.htm
..Denmark and Netherlands squads are contemplating withdrawing also:eek::confused:...And the first matches will start in several hours...Wow, such a sudden move for the organizing committee..

The part abt the ENG team having flight difficulties is reminiscent of their trip to the 2005 WC, in Anaheim. In that edition, though, they were stranded at Heathrow airport for several hours (because of the British Airways employees' strike) and weren't able to arrive until the day prior to the event. I believe they were the last remaining participants to arrive. Can you imagine the hectic schedule!!:eek: It got even worse when Nathan Robertson suffered a major ankle sprain, during the team's practice session the day before the start of the event, and had to withdraw from the XD event (yes, saw it with my own eyes>>check out the 2005 WC pics thread)..

what a waste:(
we lost some good quality player and good quality match:crying:

the England teams withdrawal is official

in my opinion, wise idea by them;)

in my opinion, wise idea by them;)

In my opinion, very irrational and unwise decision..

/T

..Denmark and Netherlands squads are contemplating withdrawing also:eek::confused:...And the first matches will start in several hours...Wow, such a sudden move for the organizing committee..

The part abt the ENG team having flight difficulties is reminiscent of their trip to the 2005 WC, in Anaheim. In that edition, though, they were stranded at Heathrow airport for several hours (because of the British Airways employees' strike) and weren't able to arrive until the day prior to the event. I believe they were the last remaining participants to arrive. Can you imagine the hectic schedule!!:eek: It got even worse when Nathan Robertson suffered a major ankle sprain, during the team's practice session the day before the start of the event, and had to withdraw from the XD event (yes, saw it with my own eyes>>check out the 2005 WC pics thread)..

For Denmark the players have a meeting and gets informed by risk asessment from security advisors, The individual danes are of course free to make an individual decision if they want to go home, but the danish team does currently feels player safety is assured for the championships.

/T

By badminton standards, the withdrawal of the English team is really big news in the UK i.e. it has actually made the news, in a fairly big way as well. If anything good has come out of this at least people may know that the badminton world champs exist and are actually taking place as it won't have got any coverage otherwise.

OMG. So the threat is really serious? I wish safety for the rest. And of all sports, why target badminton? I mean, we're a peaceful, disciplined, loving sports group (hehehe).

By badminton standards, the withdrawal of the English team is really big news in the UK i.e. it has actually made the news, in a fairly big way as well. If anything good has come out of this at least people may know that the badminton world champs exist and are actually taking place as it won't have got any coverage otherwise.

I know first time I have seen it on the news since all England
Anyway they weren't going to win anything so In my opinion they saved themselves some money and embarasment
Now Scotland are the top uk team by default !!:D

I know first time I have seen it on the news since all England
Anyway they weren't going to win anything so In my opinion they saved themselves some money and embarasment
Now Scotland are the top uk team by default !!:D

How have they saved themselves money, they will have already paid for flights/accommodation etc and don't forget that they actually flew out there only to have to return. If anything changing the flights etc will have cost more. As for embarrassment, I don't think that as a Scot (with your mighty team of 2 players) you can really comment :p and anyway Clark/Robertson were in form and would have fancied their chances, especially with the draw slightly weakened. I think it's a shame, particularly for the players as tournaments like this in this format with the bigger draw don't come around too often, and for them to have prepared for months and even actually fly out for a such huge tournament, only to have to fly back on the the day before it's due to start surely must be disappointing.

How have they saved themselves money, they will have already paid for flights/accommodation etc and don't forget that they actually flew out there only to have to return. If anything changing the flights etc will have cost more. As for embarrassment, I don't think that as a Scot (with your mighty team of 2 players) you can really comment :p and anyway Clark/Robertson were in form and would have fancied their chances, especially with the draw slightly weakened. I think it's a shame, particularly for the players as tournaments like this in this format with the bigger draw don't come around too often, and for them to have prepared for months and even actually fly out for a such huge tournament, only to have to fly back on the the day before it's due to start surely must be disappointing.

Agree fully... But keep in mind according to reports the decision to not play was unanimous..so it seems like the players would not want to play the WC..

I wonder if team UK dare to cross the street at lunch hours in London CIty.. pretty high mortality rate there compared to WC bombings...

/Twobeer

http://www.newscred.com/article/show/title/india-security-fears-grow-after-withdrawal-4a7ef2f0d1145/1873335

"A spokesman for Badminton England said he understood the threat was reported in Indian newspapers in the last 48 hours. The organisation's performance director, Ian Moss, said: "When we arrived in Hyderabad there were reports in the local media about a terrorist threat.

"We initially thought they had been exaggerated in the media but when the players saw the lack of security at the stadium they passed on their concerns to me and I informed the BWF that we were withdrawing from the championships. It was a unanimous squad decision."

In contrast to a dutch player's blog post on Saturday that mentioned half the army seemed to have turned up at the facility ...

Agree fully... But keep in mind according to reports the decision to not play was unanimous..so it seems like the players would not want to play the WC..

I wonder if team UK dare to cross the street at lunch hours in London CIty.. pretty high mortality rate there compared to WC bombings...

/Twobeer


I'm not too convinced by the decision being unanimous.. You know as well as I do that chances to shine in badminton (especially in Europe) are so few and far between that to miss out on perhaps the biggest chances in this manner would be devastating. Chances like this are what badminton players build their whole careers and even lives up to and so I find it particularly hard to believe that the all the players themselves were not up to taking the risk, especially when every other team involved was prepared to do so. That said I do respect the concerns of the team management in wanting to do everything to protect the players and you can see it from their point of view as well, and it can't have been decision to take lightly.

Let's just hope that the tournament passes incident-free and we can enjoy a high standard of badminton!

..."We initially thought they had been exaggerated in the media but when the players saw the lack of security at the stadium they passed on their concerns to me and I informed the BWF that we were withdrawing from the championships. It was a unanimous squad decision."
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...maybe they didn't see 'em cos the security guards were probably on their lunch break, thus no one was around guarding the playing hall/stadium...

I'm not too convinced by the decision being unanimous.. You know as well as I do that chances to shine in badminton (especially in Europe) are so few and far between that to miss out on perhaps the biggest chances in this manner would be devastating. Chances like this are what badminton players build their whole careers and even lives up to and so I find it particularly hard to believe that the all the players themselves were not up to taking the risk, especially when every other team involved was prepared to do so. That said I do respect the concerns of the team management in wanting to do everything to protect the players and you can see it from their point of view as well, and it can't have been decision to take lightly.

Let's just hope that the tournament passes incident-free and we can enjoy a high standard of badminton!

I just read what was reported from badmintonengland on http://www.badmintonengland.co.uk/show_news.asp?itemid=2664&itemTitle=England+pull+out+of+World+Championships&section=13&sectionTitle=News

"This was a unanimous squad decision and is not reflective of the efforts made by the Organising Committee to create the safest environment possible for all athletes.”

I don't really understand why they had to make up their mind to fly back so quickly (much quicker than any other team/country obviously).. Why couldn't they further discuss with the organizers (security, risks etc.) before flying back?!?
I think they just look silly now when every other nation don't let sense and logic cave in to irrational fear..

/T

Here are the following reasons I could think of why ENG withdrew from the tournament:

1. They don't trust the security.
2. The threats are more serious than everybody thinks.
3. The threats are directed towards them.
4. They chickened out.

bbc news mentioned it was "specific threat"

so i guess number 3.

so the threat was only to england not to Scotland Wales Ireland china Indonesia India japan Korea Nigeria USA
Only to England seems unlikely that it was only made at then and no one else

so the threat was only to england not to Scotland Wales Ireland china Indonesia India japan Korea Nigeria USA
Only to England seems unlikely that it was only made at then and no one else

Just wait until tomorrow,...when Eng team reached home, they will make their side story clearer.......they said they will do that once they reached home.....:rolleyes:

I thought they had already returned home at least that's what the BBC said

I think the horrors of the london bombing are still strong in many of the English, both on the team, and possibly in adminstration.. this may have had a factor in their withdraw.. better safe than sorry..

latest 'insider info' says that netherlands already withdrew from this tournament..dunno true or not..hmm...maybe china might withdrew too...

Here are the following reasons I could think of why ENG withdrew from the tournament:

1. They don't trust the security.
2. The threats are more serious than everybody thinks.
3. The threats are directed towards them.
4. They chickened out.
..more like #1...either they overestimated the threats or they just don't trust the security...

anyway, more news here on their fallout withdrawal...They should've assigned 1 or more armed guards for each of the ENG national player...:p

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090810/ap_on_sp_ot/bad_worlds_england_out_4
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Player: Badminton worlds in India 'not a safe place'
Mon Aug 10, 2009

LONDON (AP) -- England badminton officials and players blamed what they said were inadequate security measures for their decision to pull out of this week’s world championships in India.

Badminton England chief executive Adrian Christy told a media conference on Monday that the team was not given “appropriate levels of security” for the tournament in Hyderabad.

Security concerns over sports events in South Asia have been heightened since the attack on the Sri Lanka cricket team in Lahore, Pakistan, that killed six policemen and a driver in March.

Seven cricketers, an assistant coach and a match official were injured, and England’s Commonwealth Games champion Nathan Robertson said he and his teammates were disturbed by the threat of a similar attack.

“It wasn’t a safe place for staff or players,” Robertson said at the media conference at Milton Keynes, England. “We were on back roads with no armed guards or anything -- just a bus driver. It doesn’t matter to me where it is in the world, we weren’t safe in that situation.

“It wasn’t a difficult decision in my mind.”

England flew home from Hyderabad on Sunday, a day before the tournament started, because of a terrorist threat from a Pakistan-based Islamic militant group.

Indian police have denied there was a threat but team manager Andy Wood said that security was so lax that members of the public could easily walk into the players’ hotel unchallenged.

“I don’t think we have overreacted,” Christy said. “We were very clear of our expectation of security before the event. We went to Hyderabad with every intention of being met with appropriate levels of security.

“We were not particularly impressed with the level of security we were met with on arrival and subsequent days. It was absolutely the right thing to do.”

Christy also expressed his unhappiness with comments from Badminton Scotland chief executive Anne Smillie that England had overreacted.

England performance director Ian Ross said other teams were concerned with security and got in touch with their embassies for advice on whether to stay.

“This is unfortunate and an overreaction,” India home secretary G.K. Pillai said late Sunday. “The security arrangements in Hyderabad are good and the government of India is committed to ensure the complete security of all competitors and the championship.”

In March, two of England’s top badminton players withdrew from the India Open in Hyderabad citing security concerns.

British sports minister Gerry Sutcliffe has said he will talk over the issue with Indian government officials and that the country intends to support India in its hosting of the Commonwealth Games next year.

“We very much look forward to the Commonwealth Games,” Christy said. “I’m sure they will be a great success.”

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Policemen inspect a vehicle at the entrance of Gachibowli Stadium - the venue of the World Badminton Championships in Hyderabad on August 9, 2009.By Getty Images

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/news/city/hyderabad/India-slams-English-pullout-from-World-Badminton-Championship/articleshow/4874364.cms
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India slams English pullout from World Badminton Championship
PTI 9 August 2009, 08:30pm IST
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HYDERABAD: The Home Ministry on Sunday rued England's last-minute pullout from the World Badminton Championship in Hyderabad, terming it
"over-reaction". ( Watch )

"This is unfortunate and an over-reaction," Union Home Secretary GK Pillai said.

"The security arrangements in Hyderabad are good and the Government of India is committed to ensure the complete security of all competitors and the championship," he added.

Barely 24 hours before the elite tournament gets underway in Hyderabad, England withdrew its eight-member contingent citing a "specific Lashkar-e-Toiba" threat.

England's eleventh hour withdrawal came a day after Home Minister P Chidambaram had assured all that there was no specific threat to the event and a foolproof security system had been put in place for the purpose.

Indian shuttlers on Sunday flayed England for its last-minute pullout from the World Badminton Championships with Saina Nehwal calling it an "immature" decision.

"It's an immature decision but I don't think it makes much of a difference to the tournament because there are no English top players in the singles event," Saina said.

Saina said her coach Pullela Gopichand tried to convince them about the foolproof security here but to no avail.

"I think they should have been more patient. Even Gopi Sir spoke to them yesterday. In India, badminton is not as big as cricket so I don't think there was any need to be worry," said Saina, seeded sixth in the women's singles event.

"The tournament will go on without an issue and I don't foresee any trouble for anyone. I think they panicked since Independence Day celebrations are round the corner," she added.

India's top men's singles player Chetan Anand said the pullout will hurt India's image as a safe sporting destination.

This time wc already have too much of withdrawal..sigh..:(
i wonder what happen to thai xd pair:rolleyes:

I think some news mentions some "specific threat" towards England? But other news do not mention such thing. :confused:

Here are the following reasons I could think of why ENG withdrew from the tournament:

1. They don't trust the security.
2. The threats are more serious than everybody thinks.
3. The threats are directed towards them.
4. They chickened out.

At least, with ENG's pullout, we wont see any DRAMA from Kellog or Nathan...hehe..
Players are happy about that...trust me!! no one is regretting their withdrawal....

At least, with ENG's pullout, we wont see any DRAMA from Kellog or Nathan...hehe..
Players are happy about that...trust me!! no one is regretting their withdrawal....

And the umpires need not issue yellow cards and red cards to Andrew Smith.:D:D

Maybe some of the thai players got food poisoning in India?;)
maybe they mistaken the dhail curry as tomyam?:D:(