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sudirman
08-13-2009, 05:49 AM
Lin Dan VS Pete Gade tomorrow?

I'd put my money on LD.

nicotineamide
08-13-2009, 05:50 AM
yes..

me too.....

qczhao
08-13-2009, 05:50 AM
PG seems to be playing well, so i say LD in 3 games.

limsy
08-13-2009, 05:57 AM
a toughest so far for ld but ld will win with sweats

X Ball
08-13-2009, 07:26 AM
Hmmmmm......ordinarily, LD should win but this is WC and PG fancies his chance here.

strobofred
08-13-2009, 07:48 AM
I'm saying Peter Gade, he wants it.
And he deserves it to be honest.

anybody knows if this match will be viewable on tvuplayer?

yjhann123
08-13-2009, 08:46 AM
Support Peter Gade!!
who u all support?

jasonmarc
08-13-2009, 08:56 AM
I support PG, but i think its going to be LD to win.......

PG could bring LD to three games........

Gatchan007
08-13-2009, 08:59 AM
hi i think it will be a good match.

PG wants so badly to beat LD. it will be tougher for LD

lefafou
08-13-2009, 09:28 AM
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PoLLuX
08-13-2009, 09:31 AM
my Tarot says Lin Dan will win in tight 3 sets... :p

volcom
08-13-2009, 10:00 AM
My heart says LD in 2 sets like OG08.

Teck Kai
08-13-2009, 10:06 AM
Lin Dan and Peter Gade both are my favourite players. Talk on paper, Lin Dan stronger than Peter. At this moment, i should support Peter Gade because he deserve to become a world champion.

sting1988
08-13-2009, 10:07 AM
A treat for the fans, I hope it goes to 3 just for the viewers' purposes.

george@chongwei
08-13-2009, 10:12 AM
surely an interesting match to watch tomorrow..
i would rate lin dan 60-40 chances in this match

Teck Kai
08-13-2009, 10:20 AM
pls support peter gade..

sudirman
08-13-2009, 10:27 AM
anyone knows what's the "white powder" Lindan used with his grip? is it something to get rid of sweat from his palm?

Zealous
08-13-2009, 10:27 AM
I really hope Peter Gade beats Lin Dan. Nevertheless, the most important thing to hope for is a great game.

george@chongwei
08-13-2009, 10:34 AM
i hope pg will revenge his defeat to ld during the qf of the og08 last year..
hoping for another sweet revenge match just like what chong wei did to NTM just now;)
gogogo peter;)

Jonc108
08-13-2009, 10:56 AM
i hope pg will revenge his defeat to ld during the qf of the og08 last year..
hoping for another sweet revenge match just like what chong wei did to NTM just now;)
gogogo peter;)

don't be afraid of seeing LD meet LCW...;)

OneToughBirdie
08-13-2009, 12:29 PM
Should the next few days unfolds such that LD plays and beat PG(#3)-LCW(#1)-CJ(#2) in a row to win WC09, that would probably makes it one of the toughest path to winning any majors (i.e. AE,OG,OLY,WC) we have ever seen, and would truly makes LD a great champion. Do you think that could happen?
Based on the scorecard and the manner LD disposed of his opponent with clinical efficiency, I would not beat against that. Even though PG and LCW are playing well so far, I still place my bet on LD to win.

cooler
08-13-2009, 12:40 PM
i hope pg will revenge his defeat to ld during the qf of the og08 last year..
hoping for another sweet revenge match just like what chong wei did to NTM just now;)
gogogo peter;)shouldn't u be rooting for your next of kin LCW?:p

kenmay
08-13-2009, 12:43 PM
if the match goes to third set, LD will beat PG with no doubt, LD is a player with with energy and emotion.

cooler
08-13-2009, 12:47 PM
finally LD can change to his 4th and 5th gears.

ctjcad
08-13-2009, 01:50 PM
..Super Dan doesn't overlook PG to another possible rematch with LCW, he should win. This is Super Dan's match to lose.:cool:

OneToughBirdie
08-13-2009, 03:21 PM
..Super Dan doesn't overlook PG to another possible rematch with LCW, he should win. This is Super Dan's match to lose.:cool:

In LD early days, LD would take his opponents lightly in early rounds and lost. Now, with LD winning experience in majors and a huge carrot dangling in front of him in the form of 3x MS champion (maybe more to come), I can't see LD overlook PG who is a major threat and rank higher lightly...Mental game, speed, footwork, age, power smash, stamina, etc, LD exceeds or on par with PG...on game day, LD may lose if he play below form and PG hits super-high form like standing on water, that may be the only way LD would lose to PG and deny us a LD-LCW meeting, assuming LCW get past SDK. I hope LD/LCW meet, so much at stack for both, I probably would have to take a day off to watch the darn thing in the wee hours of the morning.

ronrigotx
08-13-2009, 03:46 PM
I think Lin Dan will win, but I'm rooting for Peter Gade. Has Peter Gade ever beat Lin Dan?

ben95
08-13-2009, 04:15 PM
I think Lin Dan will win, but I'm rooting for Peter Gade. Has Peter Gade ever beat Lin Dan?

Yes. Three times if I remember well.

The latest was during China Master 2006.

Gooooooooo Peter

Wong8Egg
08-13-2009, 04:41 PM
Yes. Three times if I remember well.

The latest was during China Master 2006.

Gooooooooo Peter

Yes and it was 3 years ago. LD has improved alot since, it is very unlikely that Gade can beat LD.

80:20 to LD I say.

ben95
08-13-2009, 05:47 PM
80:20 :eek: it's a bit harsh.

Even if i'd love to see PG winning, 65:35 for LD seems more fair to me, isn't it?

Off topic but I don't see LD winning this year. Difficult to beat in row PG, LCW/SDK and CJ.... If CJ doesn't this year I think he will kick himself he has a golden opportunity.

geebees90
08-13-2009, 05:52 PM
PG has been performing really well since his first match, He beat Sasaki and CYK in two straight games and below 12 points in each set.....Thats Amazing, I wish PG win this World Championships because he deserves it.....LD has won it twice, I love Lin Dan, but we should see a change this time, If not PG then I would love to see LCW win it.......LD still seems the most strongest, The number1 and the Champion...........................I'll be happy if PG wins this time......

SuperBird
08-13-2009, 06:06 PM
If peter gade don't screw up his half court net cross and can defend against LD smashed, it will be a close match to watch--then LD in 3. otherwise prediction is 21 - 15 & 21 - 12 for LD all the wayz..........

"white powder"---Chinese secret undetectable cocaine...to give LD that natural HIGH & power & quickness.......please don't tell anyone.......thx

ctjcad
08-13-2009, 06:17 PM
..are you sure that's not body powder or tempura baking flour??..:confused:

OneToughBirdie
08-13-2009, 06:22 PM
80:20 :eek: it's a bit harsh.

Even if i'd love to see PG winning, 65:35 for LD seems more fair to me, isn't it?

Off topic but I don't see LD winning this year. Difficult to beat in row PG, LCW/SDK and CJ.... If CJ doesn't this year I think he will kick himself he has a golden opportunity.

65:35 and 80:20 really makes no difference;)...the goose is cooked either way, maybe not that well cooked if it is 65:35:p:D

badwally
08-13-2009, 06:30 PM
If LD wins WC09 will he finally be rank #1? Lets says LCW comes seconed.

ctjcad
08-13-2009, 07:47 PM
..no...And neither LD or LCW will come in 2nd place in this yr's WC (one will be eliminated in the Semis)..

Currently:
LCW (WR #1) has 76000 pts
LD (WR #5) has 51040 pts

BWF ruling states:
- Winner of WC gets 12000 pts
- Runner up of WC gets 10200 pts
- 3/4 (Semifinalists) of WC gets 8400 pts

In case LD wins the WC, he will get 63040 (51040+12000) pts
In case LCW loses in the Semis, he will get 84400 (76000+8400) pts

However, if LD plays in more tourneys the rest of the yr and wins them, then he has a chance to finish as #1 at yr's end. Depends also if LCW continues to play the same amt of tourneys & how well he finishes in each tourney.

arowana
08-13-2009, 07:57 PM
hi ctjcad, don't think it's enough to add those points to total ranking points ;) result might be the same, but who cares about WR? for example chineses championship is much harder to win than any other tournamant, olympics the opposite...

ctjcad
08-13-2009, 08:07 PM
..what are you referring to??..are you trying to make the calculation more complicated than it is??..:confused:
badwally only asked for a confirmation whether LD will be WR #1 if he wins this WC??..

badwally
08-13-2009, 08:36 PM
..no...And neither LD or LCW will come in 2nd place in this yr's WC (one will be eliminated in the Semis)..

Currently:
LCW (WR #1) has 76000 pts
LD (WR #5) has 51040 pts

BWF ruling states:
- Winner of WC gets 12000 pts
- Runner up of WC gets 10200 pts
- 3/4 (Semifinalists) of WC gets 8400 pts

In case LD wins the WC, he will get 63040 (51040+12000) pts
In case LCW loses in the Semis, he will get 84400 (76000+8400) pts

However, if LD plays in more tourneys the rest of the yr and wins them, then he has a chance to finish as #1 at yr's end. Depends also if LCW continues to play the same amt of tourneys & how well he finishes in each tourney.


Thanks ctjcad for the information. So even if LCW loses in WC he will still retain his world #1 ranking. I know there has been many BC'er arguing that LD is really the world #1 because he has won more major tournaments but I think that is a false impression. I know I am going to be shot at for my following comments but hey that is why I walk around with a bulls eye. I think the definition of champion with regards to world ranking does not only mean that you are better technically, mentally or strategically but also how long you can sustain that level of intensity. The argument that LD is superior to LCW both technically and strategically does not at this moment mens he is better. He also need to prove that he can sustain this level for longer which means he needs to prove that he can do this as long as LCW. That basically means he need to play as much as LCW in international tournament. If he can do this and gets higher ranking at the end of the year than LCW then there is no debate.
I am not sure if this is an appropriate tread to post this comment or there already exist a tread for this I leave to the forum guardian to decide.:D

arowana
08-13-2009, 08:39 PM
..what are you referring to??..are you trying to make the calculation more complicated than it is??..:confused:
badwally only asked for a confirmation whether LD will be WR #1 if he wins this WC??..

you also need to look at the points they lose and there is only a limited number of tournaments counted... so you have to substract the lowest counted, which could be very different from both players...

what i refer to is, this is only calculation... doesn't tell you much about lin dan...as some of you already noticed. many players get points, because they attend tournaments and get ranking points and can attend next tournaments to get ranking points...top 20 in WORLDranking doesnt mean much, take Charmaine Reid from Canada for example (no offense)...

ctjcad
08-13-2009, 08:42 PM
Thanks ctjcad for the information. So even if LCW loses in WC he will still retain his world #1 ranking. I know there has been many BC'er arguing that LD is really the world #1 because he has won more major tournaments but I think that is a false impression. I know I am going to be shot at for my following comments but hey that is why I walk around with a bulls eye. I think the definition of champion with regards to world ranking does not only mean that you are better technically, mentally or strategically but also how long you can sustain that level of intensity. The argument that LD is superior to LCW both technically and strategically does not at this moment mens he is better. He also need to prove that he can sustain this level for longer which means he needs to prove that he can do this as long as LCW. That basically means he need to play as much as LCW in international tournament. If he can do this and gets higher ranking at the end of the year than LCW then there is no debate.
I am not sure if this is an appropriate tread to post this comment or there already exist a tread for this I leave to the forum guardian to decide.:D
Yes, there have been numerous threads & discussions dedicated to the argument you're trying to present. Heck, we might even re-start this whole debate pretty soon, again...
Here are the 2 sides of the debate:
- LD had already proven that he could maintain as WR #1, in the last couple or so yrs. I know he should participate in more tourneys like what LCW is doing. But i think LD's goal or main focus right now is to maintain his physical condition and to just select tournaments he deems worthwhile to participate in til 2012 Olympics.
- LCW can have and brag abt his WR #1, but to many, without him having a major title(s) securely placed in his back pocket, the WR will be for naught.

And neither LD or LCW will come in 2nd place in this yr's WC (one will be eliminated in the Semis)..
...
..i meant to say, "And neither LD or LCW will come in 2nd place in this yr's WC (one will be eliminated in the Semis should they meet each other)"..

you also need to look at the points they lose and there is only a limited number of tournaments counted... so you have to substract the lowest counted, which could be very different from both players...

what i refer to is, this is only calculation... doesn't tell you much about lin dan...as some of you already noticed. many players get points, because they attend tournaments and get ranking points and can attend next tournaments to get ranking points...top 20 in WORLDranking doesnt mean much, take Charmaine Reid from Canada for example (no offense)...
For the 1st part & 2nd parts, i understand. But the query was abt for this particular WC's total pts. If you want to divulge more abt pts accumulation til end of the yr, please open up a new thread for a new discussion. Thanks.:)

drifit
08-13-2009, 08:47 PM
Friday August 14, 2009

Christensen says pressure on Lin Dan to beat a veteran like him

ONE had said that the other is the favourite for the world championship men’s singles title.
But when “old man” Peter-Gade Christensen of Denmark and super attacking player Lin Dan of China meet today, they will be holding nothing back to get the better of each other in a crunch quarter-final match.
Christensen was on top of his game yesterday to beat Chan Yan Kit of Hong Kong 21-11, 21-12 while Lin Dan ended the gallant run of Dicky Palyama of Holland with an impressive 21-11, 21-11 win to show that they were shaping up well for the big match today.
The 32-year-old Christensen said that Lin Dan was the favourite and would be the one under pressure to beat him.
“So far, everything is good and this is exactly where I want to be — an opportunity to play against Lin Dan in the quarter-finals,” said the Dane.
“All the pressure will be on him. He will not want to lose to an old man like me.”
Christensen has promised to throw everything he has to beat the overwhelming favourite.
“He is a fantastic player but he is not invincible. I beat him in the China Masters (two years ago). It is rare for a player to beat him in his own country.
“I believe I have that tiny bit of chance against him. And I will give all my best out there tomorrow. I have been playing well since the Olympic Games and I am going to go out there fighting for every shot throughout the match.”
Lin Dan beat Christensen in the quarter-finals of the Beijing Olympics last year and it was one of the best matches of the Games.
The two-time world champion was cool over his chances and admitted that Christensen would be a tough nut to crack.
“He is the best European player and I have to admit that he has been playing quite well since the Beijing Games,” said Lin Dan.
“He is a good player and I will not take him lightly. I will be very prepared for the match and what is important is to give my best out there tomorrow.”


from: the star (http://thestar.com.my/sports/story.asp?file=/2009/8/14/sports/4518711&sec=sports)

limsy
08-13-2009, 09:00 PM
..no...And neither LD or LCW will come in 2nd place in this yr's WC (one will be eliminated in the Semis)..

Currently:
LCW (WR #1) has 76000 pts
LD (WR #5) has 51040 pts

BWF ruling states:
- Winner of WC gets 12000 pts
- Runner up of WC gets 10200 pts
- 3/4 (Semifinalists) of WC gets 8400 pts

In case LD wins the WC, he will get 63040 (51040+12000) pts
In case LCW loses in the Semis, he will get 84400 (76000+8400) pts

However, if LD plays in more tourneys the rest of the yr and wins them, then he has a chance to finish as #1 at yr's end. Depends also if LCW continues to play the same amt of tourneys & how well he finishes in each tourney.

and remember that lindan need to win wc to defend his og gold point,lcw also need to defend the runner up point in og;)

yourbestfriend
08-13-2009, 09:04 PM
yepp, should be a really good match. i actually see a lose-lose situation for gade. 2 scenario's.
1) he goes all out the first game, wins it, slows down a little in the second loses it, and tries to play his hardest in the third, but in the end, he doesn't out fitness LD.

2) he goes all out the first game, loses it, then doesn't have too much left in the tank and then loses the second as well.
obviously there are billions of other scenarios, but imho i think these are probably two of the most probable.
personally i hope gade does well, i dont wanna see him get blown outta the water.

ctjcad
08-13-2009, 09:19 PM
and remember that lindan need to win wc to defend his og gold point,lcw also need to defend the runner up point in og;)
..who's actually keeping count of those??..:confused:

yourbestfriend, the 3rd scenario is: Gade loses-wins-loses....a lose-lose-lose scenario...

limsy
08-13-2009, 09:27 PM
..who's actually keeping count of those??..:confused:

yourbestfriend, the 3rd scenario is: Gade loses-wins-loses....a lose-lose-lose scenario...

i prefer old bwf website as i can help counting the wr point,but i cant now:(
change back the wr website,bwf:mad:

extremenanopowe
08-13-2009, 09:34 PM
I am predicting an upset based on the seedings. ;)

ctjcad
08-13-2009, 09:51 PM
i prefer old bwf website as i can help counting the wr point,but i cant now:(
change back the wr website,bwf:mad:
..the new BWF website is undergoing maintenance. I know they haven't had their full servie and links updated (like head to head link, players profile link, WR links etc.). So, hope it'll be updated and up & running again, soon..

I wonder though, if LinDan were to lose vs. Gade, will that deflate the excitement of the MS field??..:confused:

limsy
08-13-2009, 09:56 PM
..I wonder though, if LinDan were to lose vs. Gade, will that deflate the excitement of the MS field??..:confused:

slightly but not all

danielwong
08-13-2009, 09:56 PM
LD sure win
maybe easy win....

drifit
08-13-2009, 10:01 PM
.................. ding ding ding .............
i have the results
LD shall fall under PG and LCW will rise as the WC09 champion.

limsy
08-13-2009, 10:04 PM
.................. ding ding ding .............
i have the results
LD shall fall under PG and LCW will rise as the WC09 champion.

good good good:p
but,we will never know
if peter good enough to beat ld here,he might also beat lcw

staples
08-13-2009, 10:15 PM
Friday August 14, 2009

Christensen says pressure on Lin Dan to beat a veteran like him...
The 32-year-old Christensen said that Lin Dan was the favourite and would be the one under pressure to beat him.

“All the pressure will be on him. He will not want to lose to an old man like me.”


Peter Gade is full of talk. The Dane usually shows a lot of confidence but then only to lose in the match. Nevertheless a great ambassador for this sport! Unfortunately this is the end of the road for Gade at the Worlds. Of course unless Lin Dan receives a death threat. haha

Gade is not bad of a player but he just can't match up to Lin Dan's level.
Lin Dan has beaten Gade when the latter was in his prime. Now it will be even easier. :)

staples
08-13-2009, 10:19 PM
Yes. Three times if I remember well.

The latest was during China Master 2006.

Gooooooooo Peter

I think that was in the semi's too. In the final I believe he lost to Chen Jin.

SibugiChai
08-13-2009, 10:23 PM
I think Peter Gade will win because of Yonex superior Technology :)

Jonc108
08-13-2009, 11:02 PM
- LD had already proven that he could maintain as WR #1, in the last couple or so yrs. I know he should participate in more tourneys like what LCW is doing. But i think LD's goal or main focus right now is to maintain his physical condition and to just select tournaments he deems worthwhile to participate in til 2012 Olympics.
- LCW can have and brag abt his WR #1, but to many, without him having a major title(s) securely placed in his back pocket, the WR will be for naught.

..i meant to say, "And neither LD or LCW will come in 2nd place in this yr's WC (one will be eliminated in the Semis should they meet each other)"..
:)

well said. I doubt how long "badwally" has been following the badminton sport in the last 10 years...;)

After sitting on WR#1 spot comfortably for so many years, won 2 WCs in a row and OG last year, LD has reached a stage that he is no longer in need to prove anything to anyone.

He decided to take a comparatively good rest, not care about WR#1, therefore missed so many competitions, not because he is not able to sustain good level of playing.

To me, to certain extent, on one hand,
- LD after 2008 OG is like TH after 2004 OG, achieved a big win, no more need to prove himself as the top player of the sport, and re-think about his career strategy, may switch and concentrate on major title competitions...
- LCW after 2008 OG is like LD after 2004 OG, suffered a big set-back, keen to prove himself in the following years, want and need to win everything.

on the other hand,
- LD-after-2008 would not be like TH-after-2004, TH laxed a lot after 2004, lasks of training, more concentrate in his own private life, plus problems in his national team, and therefore no longer able to sustain his level of play consistently. LD is more determined in dedicating himself to badminton sport and therefore would not allow himself to lax (although he may play in fewer competitions but concentrate on major ones).
- But I doubt LCW-after-2008 could be able to achieve the same achievements that LD-after-2004 was able to achieve between 2005 to 2008. He may be able to retain WR#1 for some time (as LD may not be interested to take it back by entering every competition to regain the WR points), may be able to take 1 o 2 of the major titles (amongst the 3 AEs, 3 WCs and 1 OG up to 2012 from now, SC and TC is too remote as he doesn't has a good enough national team, given that WC is now once every year).
- And don't forget that as LD is determined to focus on major titles now, he would also win many (at lease 1 or 2, or even more) amongst these chances, And I further doubt LCW could be able to level his head-to-head record with LD given that LD would be subject to less fatigue and injury problems by entering fewer competitions, although LCW for sure could beat LD once or twice a year, like every year in the past.

so don't worry LCW fans, I guess he should be able to retain the WR#1 ranking for quite some time. But everyone knows how desparate LCW wants to win a WC, and perfectly by beating LD on the road... therefore if LCW could not beat LD and take this WC, it would really hurt him...

However, personally I really and hugely doubt at the end of their career, as an ultimate judgement on their overall achievements, LCW would be as great as LD as many LCW fans like to claim....

Jonc108
08-13-2009, 11:09 PM
Peter Gade is full of talk. The Dane usually shows a lot of confidence but then only to lose in the match. Nevertheless a great ambassador for this sport! Unfortunately this is the end of the road for Gade at the Worlds. Of course unless Lin Dan receives a death threat. haha

Gade is not bad of a player but he just can't match up to Lin Dan's level.
Lin Dan has beaten Gade when the latter was in his prime. Now it will be even easier. :)

Gade and even the current LD are humble gentlemen, showing respects to fellow players, unlike the arrogant talks from Malaysian team, see the link below if you know Chinese....

http://sports.sohu.com/20090813/n265913810.shtml

this just show how desparate people around LCW wants LCW to win... too bad that such desparation and selfish will could twist humanity to such rude manner and make me look down on them... :(

yyclub
08-13-2009, 11:36 PM
I support PG.
In order to have a chance, he need to take 1st set. If LD take 1st set, it is as good as gone.

SibugiChai
08-13-2009, 11:41 PM
After sitting on WR#1 spot comfortably for so many years, won 2 WCs in a row and OG last year, LD has reached a stage that he is no longer in need to prove anything to anyone.
....

On the contrary, I belib LD has a lot to prove because of his new Sponsor Li NING!

how ironic if LD start losing after using Li NIng? :cool:

kwun
08-13-2009, 11:42 PM
this is worthy of a poll. :)

**KZ**
08-13-2009, 11:45 PM
i think 90% of forumers would want peter to win....including me...LD...he has won this and if he wins again....honestly it's getting really boring....my mind says LD will win...but my heart goes to PG...

jump_smashing
08-14-2009, 12:05 AM
I am 100% sure LD would win the match... but still PG would give hard matches for LD.

eRa@에라
08-14-2009, 12:19 AM
I wonder though, if LinDan were to lose vs. Gade, will that deflate the excitement of the MS field??..:confused:


I much prefer gade n lcw in semifinal... so, no LD DEFINITELY not inflate the excitement... see what happen to WS department? Wang Yihan packed her bag but the following matches are still exciting to watch :D:D:D

eRa@에라
08-14-2009, 12:34 AM
Gade and even the current LD are humble gentlemen, showing respects to fellow players, unlike the arrogant talks from Malaysian team, see the link below if you know Chinese....

http://sports.sohu.com/20090813/n265913810.shtml

this just show how desparate people around LCW wants LCW to win... too bad that such desparation and selfish will could twist humanity to such rude manner and make me look down on them... :(

...and I'm curious of what they say... can you like summarize a bit?;)

you see Jon... human are like that... the players are mostly humble... but people around them, don't just say Malaysian fans, i believe many fans are like that... i am his fan and always want him to win but i do consider his low points... as for the arrogant comments from the team, i believe some other team has also made some over confident, over the top comments regarding their players/opponent... thing is, no need to waste your time pondering much about it... they are humans... being arrogance comes naturally... ;););)

jasonmarc
08-14-2009, 12:36 AM
.................. ding ding ding .............
i have the results
LD shall fall under PG and LCW will rise as the WC09 champion.

This is how a moderator speaks..........very confident :D:D

Jonc108
08-14-2009, 12:46 AM
...and I'm curious of what they say... can you like summarize a bit?;)

you see Jon... human are like that... the players are mostly humble... but people around them, don't just say Malaysian fans, i believe many fans are like that... i am his fan and always want him to win but i do consider his low points... as for the arrogant comments from the team, i believe some other team has also made some over confident, over the top comments regarding their players/opponent... thing is, no need to waste your time pondering much about it... they are humans... being arrogance comes naturally... ;););)

eRa, what may also disappoint you was that even LCW himself was also too desparate and said something similar...:crying:

http://sports.sohu.com/20090813/n265933326.shtml

I fully understand this is human nature, but to me, sports field should not be like the fierce material world of commercial business or a real battle field... you really don't need to say such things...

... okay, may find time to summarize these links in English..:)

SibugiChai
08-14-2009, 12:50 AM
I dunno about ur guys but I prefer if things heat up like WWE...

where LD would argue with LCW o PG in public to add fire to the game...

Sports is ENTERTAINMENT>.. modern day GLADAITOR!!

eRa@에라
08-14-2009, 01:00 AM
eRa, what may also disappoint you was that even LCW himself was also too desparate and said something similar...:crying:

http://sports.sohu.com/20090813/n265933326.shtml

I fully understand this is human nature, but to me, sports field should not be like the fierce material world of commercial business or a real battle field... you really don't need to say such things...

... okay, may find time to summarize these links in English..:)

people says what they want... for us, let's just focus on the sports played... and you know jon, don't blindly trust the press either... they're up for the buzz... they write and add some more to spice things up.... whoever said anything, if quoted by the press, let's just leave it as that... to take it as 100% true, well up to you... ever play this one game where you whisper a sentence to one of tenth ppl and when it reaches back to you the msg is not as the actual? we said one thing but others may interprete incorrectly and what worse is that it got displayed in the paper:(... (no offence to good press...:o)

Jonc108
08-14-2009, 01:01 AM
...and I'm curious of what they say... can you like summarize a bit?;)



http://sports.sohu.com/20090813/n265913810.shtml

summary from the above link:

{".... as reported by a Malaysian English media, before WC, Malaysian coach Rashid Sidek said arrogantly: 'at WC, LD would be the only one that could troubled LCW, all other players are nothing..'...."

"Sidek further pointed out '... LCW need not waste many energy if facing CJ.... LCW should only prepare for the match with LD, other things would not be any problem. IF LCW COULD PUT HIS FOOT ON LD's BODY and enter the final, then I could guarantee he could win Malaysia's historical first WC title.'"}

I think he is true that LD would be LCW's no.1 enermy on the road to claim WC, but what he spoken was very much disrespect for other players... and I don't think LCW is such dominant that he could take all other players as nothing...

and it would be helpful to know the truth if anyone could find the authentic report from the quoted Malaysian media...

Jonc108
08-14-2009, 01:18 AM
.....

Sports is ENTERTAINMENT>.. modern day GLADAITOR!!


people says what they want... for us, let's just focus on the sports played... )

thanks both, and I really agree to what you said above...

I like badminton very much, but when I look at the world of other sports like tennis, golf, people (players, coaches) are really gracious and concentrate on court performance...... but badminton :confused:...

my point is that development of badminton sport is not in a good position, and in order to make it prosperous, the stake-holders should really think how they should present (or behave) themself in public and work together to help the sport (perhaps they thought these heated speeches could held...)...

I think PG and even LD in the last couple of years (much improved from his first few years) were quite self-conscious in this aspect and making the sport more spectacular than ill-feeling... just feel upset when see such things...

eRa may be right, it might just be media's naught, let's hope so...:)

X Ball
08-14-2009, 01:29 AM
http://sports.sohu.com/20090813/n265913810.shtml

summary from the above link:

{".... as reported by a Malaysian English media, before WC, Malaysian coach Rashid Sidek said arrogantly: 'at WC, LD would be the only one that could troubled LCW, all other players are nothing..'...."

"Sidek further pointed out '... LCW need not waste many energy if facing CJ.... LCW should only prepare for the match with LD, other things would not be any problem. IF LCW COULD PUT HIS FOOT ON LD's BODY and enter the final, then I could guarantee he could win Malaysia's historical first WC title.'"}

I think he is true that LD would be LCW's no.1 enermy on the road to claim WC, but what he spoken was very much disrespect for other players... and I don't think LCW is such dominant that he could take all other players as nothing...

and it would be helpful to know the truth if anyone could find the authentic report from the quoted Malaysian media...


I, too, would like to put a foot on LD's body but what English is that ? Probably some SOHO bad chinese news which is not worth the 10 cents paper it was written on.

eRa@에라
08-14-2009, 01:31 AM
and it would be helpful to know the truth if anyone could find the authentic report from the quoted Malaysian media...

some snippets from the star articles:

"...“There is a disparity in standard between Chong Wei and Tien Minh. I would reckon that Chong Wei’s defeat to this player (at the Singapore Open) as a one-off thing,” said Rashid. “But having said that, it is wise not to be too confident.
“Tien Minh is shaping up well ahead of the world meet. He is one of the most hard working players that I have met. He can rise to the occasion when least expected.
“If the two players meet, there will be less pressure on the Vietnamese but if Chong Wei play to form he should go through.”..."

"[...]China have been talking about a clean sweep and have gone into hiding. All we know is that they are training in a place where there are no distractions so it will be tough to gauge their level," said Rashid. "However, our focus will just be on Lin Dan as he is the person standing between Chong Wei and the final. If Chong Wei can beat him, he will be very confident of winning the title.
"Chen Jin is the player Chong Wei may face in the final and he has good record against the former.
"Chong Wei is also well prepared but as far as our chances in the singles are concerned, it will boil down to that crunch match between him and Lin Dan in the semis.

"If he clears that hurdle, we may witness the first Malaysian winning the world title. (sounds similar? :P)

"That's the situation presently, but it is much better compared to the Beijing Olympics last year where Lin Dan proved too strong for Chong Wei. The gap is just too close this time and it will be a close tussle."

Rashid also believes that the earlier clashes like the third round encounter against Vietnam's Nguyen Tien Minh and the likely quarter-final clash against Sony Dwi Kuncoro of Indonesia will not pose problems for Chong Wei.

There's no denying that Tien Minh and Sony are good players but Rashid feels Chong Wei has pulled away from the duo.

China are known for their psychological tactics and probably the secluded training camp could be another ploy so Chong Wei may not be too concerned.

His focus, Rashid reckons, will be solely on the clash with Lin Dan and Malaysia's chances of glory which hangs on that solitary match.[...]"

courtesy of the star

I don't think I need to post more... I just realized the link you posted was a foreign press? Then, my advice no need to waste your energy la... I've been following news on Malaysia's badminton, by far no comment of who wants to trample whose body... that is rubbish! Like I said you can very much expect a lot of bias and spices be added to a simple comment...;)

...case officially closed...;)

and I hope PG wins this match or at least push LD to the limit before trow's match... :D:D

P/s: so scary press.. they can write what they want and live happily ever after...

kwun
08-14-2009, 01:31 AM
it will be certainly interesting to see a MAS WC after all these years.

but as we know the biggest hurdle will be LD. even if he is not in the mood, he is a formidable opponent. if he is in the mood, he is lethal.

only time will tell...

drifit
08-14-2009, 01:37 AM
good good good:p
but,we will never know
if peter good enough to beat ld here,he might also beat lcw


This is how a moderator speaks..........very confident :D:D
a psychic told me. :D
PG just unable to pass LCW. ;)

eRa@에라
08-14-2009, 01:46 AM
a psychic told me. :D
PG just unable to pass LCW. ;)

shud PG lost to LD, I will cry and may have to think twice over drifit's future predictions :D:p:D:p

Heong
08-14-2009, 01:47 AM
Though it's likely that Lin Dan would win after watching his overpowering performance in Beijing against Peter last year.

But if Peter really plays to the peak of his abilities, then there is a chance that he'll win.

I'm hoping that Peter wins, he has been preparing for this and has done well so far in the tourney! :)

Peter Gade, you have my fullest support! Beat Lin Dan and create history!
Peter! Peter! Peter! Peter!

george@chongwei
08-14-2009, 01:51 AM
don't be afraid of seeing LD meet LCW...;)
i'm not afraid to catch these 2 players meet.:cool: in fact, i'm looking forward for it.. and of course, may the best men win today. let's see who will be the one that deserves it..;)

Wong8Egg
08-14-2009, 01:56 AM
80:20 :eek: it's a bit harsh.

Even if i'd love to see PG winning, 65:35 for LD seems more fair to me, isn't it?

Off topic but I don't see LD winning this year. Difficult to beat in row PG, LCW/SDK and CJ.... If CJ doesn't this year I think he will kick himself he has a golden opportunity.

I like PG too but the reality is harsh. The H2H figure between them is probably worse than 8:2.

V3i HoN6
08-14-2009, 03:09 AM
I want a LD-LCW match tomorrow.
Please give me that.

bananakid
08-14-2009, 03:54 AM
Gade and even the current LD are humble gentlemen, showing respects to fellow players, unlike the arrogant talks from Malaysian team, see the link below if you know Chinese....

http://sports.sohu.com/20090813/n265913810.shtml

this just show how desparate people around LCW wants LCW to win... too bad that such desparation and selfish will could twist humanity to such rude manner and make me look down on them... :(

The article & what the Malaysian coach said = meaningless trash.:mad:
What is nice from the link, is when you scroll down, and checked out how lucky Zheng Jun is.:p

limsy
08-14-2009, 04:18 AM
The article & what the Malaysian coach said = meaningless trash.:mad:
What is nice from the link, is when you scroll down, and checked out how lucky Zheng Jun is.:p

didnt u read the original post from the star?:rolleyes:
haha
obviously the translater is weak in english like me;)

sudirman
08-14-2009, 04:56 AM
http://fr.justin.tv/sportyindia1 is not working here, any other link available? please!!

sudirman
08-14-2009, 05:20 AM
http://art2d2.clubsnap.org/gallery/albums/sba08/IMGP1335ps.jpg

PG VS LD

http://www.glennguan.com/portfolio/pics/lindan-win1.jpg

AngelEye88
08-14-2009, 05:23 AM
I really hope Peter is going to win, but I think it will be Lin (again).

eRa@에라
08-14-2009, 05:39 AM
Denmark may just pull this one off as well, looking at how well the XD teams are doing just now... hopes is high on Uncle Peter

ctjcad
08-14-2009, 06:39 AM
..i think the poll should be closed by now. Their match is due shortly:p..Mods!!!..

grhm2356
08-14-2009, 06:40 AM
I just want to to see the game online.... How can it be so difficult to watch something on the internet nowadays?!? Jeeezzzz....

sudirman
08-14-2009, 07:59 AM
any other link apart from http://fr.justin.tv/sportyindia1 (http://fr.justin.tv/sportyindia1)?

drifit
08-14-2009, 08:58 AM
the "old" guy giving hard time to LD. :D

sudirman
08-14-2009, 09:00 AM
that was a lucky set !!! PG came all the way from 10:15 to 18:18, then 20:20

sudirman
08-14-2009, 09:02 AM
LD realised he needs to show respect to "old man" :)

jaydee
08-14-2009, 09:06 AM
Come on Gade... do your best.. but of course we all know LD has the upper hand here...

Heong
08-14-2009, 09:09 AM
ZOMG the score is so close!!

C'mon Peter!! You can do it! GO GO GO!

Wow, he's really playing well i must say. Hope he wins. :)

drifit
08-14-2009, 09:12 AM
LD working quite hard to leave PG behind.

jaydee
08-14-2009, 09:16 AM
Looks like LD's winning.. hmm...

badders2006
08-14-2009, 09:17 AM
LD is an absolute beast in the Majors...

george@chongwei
08-14-2009, 10:15 AM
and the winner is lin dan once again;):)

tommy_bun
08-14-2009, 10:25 AM
Keep showing good performance LD......

george@chongwei
08-14-2009, 10:34 AM
Lin dan was powerful and superb as usual just now:cool:

sudirman
08-14-2009, 10:41 AM
http://i2.sinaimg.cn/ty/o/p/2009-08-14/U2716P6T12D4535610F44DT20090814224349.jpg

cooler
08-14-2009, 10:41 AM
LD is an absolute beast in the Majors...
in majors, he is more generous in using his upper gears:p

badders2006
08-14-2009, 10:46 AM
in Majors, LD actually bothers to show up and play.

There is absolutely no blemish on his record. Even in tennis, Federer has a blemish in that his great rival, Nadal, has got the better of him more often than not. LD? Nothing. Absolute supremacy.

To quote someone else in this forum, it's lonely at the top... ;)

george@chongwei
08-14-2009, 10:47 AM
in majors, he is more generous in using his upper gears:p
then will he be generous in 2moro's semi final clash with sony?:confused:

Jonc108
08-14-2009, 12:03 PM
some snippets from the star articles:

...
"If he clears that hurdle, we may witness the first Malaysian winning the world title. (sounds similar? :P)

"That's the situation presently, but it is much better compared to the Beijing Olympics last year where Lin Dan proved too strong for Chong Wei. The gap is just too close this time and it will be a close tussle."

Rashid also believes that the earlier clashes like the third round encounter against Vietnam's Nguyen Tien Minh and the likely quarter-final clash against Sony Dwi Kuncoro of Indonesia will not pose problems for Chong Wei.

...
P/s: so scary press.. they can write what they want and live happily ever after...

yes scary press... the wordings were changed when being translated from original report to Chinese and then became what I read....

however, no one should say before hand that Sony will not pose problems for LCW.... particularly it's LCW's coach... how stupid and lack of respect, and now backfired...:(

cooler
08-14-2009, 12:11 PM
then will he be generous in 2moro's semi final clash with sony?:confused:yes, he will but i wont tell u which kind yet:p

george@chongwei
08-15-2009, 12:54 AM
yes, he will but i wont tell u which kind yet:p
ok, tell me after the match ended...regardless who the winner is:cool::p