So LD almost let it slipped away to PSH in QF
Can LCW perform after the break-up??
bring it on.......:cool::cool::cool:

Support LCW!! Who u all support

Ajaib's wish has come true...(Malaysian fan has create this thread)

Support LCW!! Who u all support

Same as you...:):D

prove it LCW!!!!

Ajaib's wish has come true...(Malaysian fan has create this thread)
it's not wish...
it was TEASED...

hope LCW can BOLEH this time... :D JIA YOU! ! ! !

Yes, just hope he able to produce a better and closer fight against LD tomorrow.....

come on LD.... bt LCW once again!!

LD definitely dont wanted to lose in front of the home crowd and LCW could love to win against LD in front of any crowd. its not much at stake, just another SS, so shouldnt be affected by pressure, a good match in expectation.

A huge shame if LD lose to LCW in his own ground..
LCW Boleh!!!!

LCW should be able to win this based on his current form.
another 50-50 match;)

50-50 match? lol more like 99-1 match

LD will bt LCW in straight games

50-50 match? lol more like 99-1 match

LD will bt LCW in straight games
dont be too overconfident.
anything can happen;)

So LD almost let it slipped away to PSH in QF
Can LCW perform after the break-up??
bring it on.......:cool::cool::cool:

More like can LCW perform well enuf with his swelling knee. ;);)

Will it be shown on tv on rtm?

Will it be shown on tv on rtm?
yes, on tv..but on astro;)

I watched AE 2004 final yesterday (Lin Dan vs Peter Gade). With that in mind and also watching matches over the years, as much as I wish my country man LCW to win the championship, super Dan will be crowned. ALL THE BEST LCW!!!

Go Lin Dan! Go Lin Dan! GOOO LIN DAN!!!! Crush that *@#$%*man of Malaysia!!!

I wonder why Lin Dan isn't sent to more tournaments.

Go Lin Dan! Go Lin Dan! GOOO LIN DAN!!!! Crush that *@#$%*man of Malaysia!!!

I wonder why Lin Dan isn't sent to more tournaments.

He don't need to as he had already won all major titles in his career. Now he just needs to participate in some SS and continue winning Major tournaments. Another reason is to stay injury free of course.

Everyone knows he is the best albeit being ranked world no.4(or 5) and i enjoy seeing him beating the so called fake WR1 to prove he is still the best.

He don't need to as he had already won all major titles in his career. Now he just needs to participate in some SS and continue winning Major tournaments. Another reason is to stay injury free of course.

Everyone knows he is the best albeit being ranked world no.4(or 5) and i enjoy seeing him beating the so called fake WR1 to prove he is still the best.
what do you mean by fake WR1? that is the system in the world ranking from the BWF, and u said that is a fake wr1? open your eyes..just accept the fact that lee chong wei is your wr 1..like it or not...

ayuh Chong Wei ... :):)

what do you mean by fake WR1? that is the system in the world ranking from the BWF, and u said that is a fake wr1? open your eyes..just accept the fact that lee chong wei is your wr 1..like it or not...

Let me reiterate, WR1 (Name only)

Just accept that LCW got his WR1 in absent of LD and most of his title (after og08) meant nothing just because of that.

Like it or not LCW has yet to prove he is worth the world no.1 title.

come on LD.... bt LCW once again!!it's not easy as LD's job is getting mundane:D as he woke up in time to beat PSH. :D Same old same old:p

LD definitely dont wanted to lose in front of the home crowd and LCW could love to win against LD in front of any crowd. its not much at stake, just another SS, so shouldnt be affected by pressure, a good match in expectation.yes, it's not a big deal for LD to win again but it's a big deal for lcw if he beat LD or win CM title.. Imagine BF will be liven up 1000% with many awaking zombies, oops i mean bolehers:p

Let me reiterate, WR1 (Name only)

Just accept that LCW got his WR1 in absent of LD and most of his title (after og08) meant nothing just because of that.

Like it or not LCW has yet to prove he is worth the world no.1 title.
You can't blame LCW for getting most of his titles after OG08 without Lin dan's presence, who cares if LD doesnt participate in the tournament that lcw won? That's not LCW's problem. without his presence, lcw won it, life still goes on.;) and like it or not, lee chong wei is still the wr1 ..that's the reality.:cool:

A huge shame if LD lose to LCW in his own ground..
LCW Boleh!!!!what shame?
even if LD loses all his matches for the rest of 2009, AND all of 2010, AND all of 2011, AND lcw win all the titles in the same period, LD still owns more hardwares and better hardwares than LCW.:p

LOL, i would love to have LD's shame

2moro 7pm got Live in Astro?

dont be too overconfident.
anything can happen;)
true, LD could win in 3 sets intead of 2:p
or pjswift could show up in the audience and put a spell on LD and/or threaten the life of the jia you fans there :eek:

true, LD could win in 3 sets intead of 2:p
or lcw might thumped out lin dan in 2 sets:D:D

2moro 7pm got Live in Astro?
yup..two session will be broadcasted live;)

or lcw might thumped out lin dan in 2 sets:D:Dhey, i was just trying to be realistic, i only dreams during sleep:)

hey, i was just trying to be realistic, i only dreams during sleep:)
yeap, anything is possible though;)

If LCW remain his defensive play style. LD will probably win again.:confused:

or lcw might thumped out lin dan in 2 sets:D:Dyes, that is possible if XXF or LYB tell LD to lose:)

yes, that is possible if XXF or LYB tell LD to lose:)
XXF won't ask LD to lose. Possible, LYB might. To give some face to WR#1?? Haha... :D

This is just my theory, but what do you guys think?

The victor between LD and LCW might depend on the winner of BP and CJ. If CJ wins then they might ask LD to lose to LCW and give CJ a chance to shine in the finals. This is like China Master back then when LD lost to PG and PG played against CJ in the finals.

I would hate it if that's the case, but if it happens in the past, then it can happen again.

yup..two session will be broadcasted live;)
y i check in astro dun hav de

50-50 match? lol more like 99-1 match

LD will bt LCW in straight games

Go Lin Dan! Go Lin Dan! GOOO LIN DAN!!!! Crush that *@#$%*man of Malaysia!!!

I wonder why Lin Dan isn't sent to more tournaments.

He don't need to as he had already won all major titles in his career. Now he just needs to participate in some SS and continue winning Major tournaments. Another reason is to stay injury free of course.

Everyone knows he is the best albeit being ranked world no.4(or 5) and i enjoy seeing him beating the so called fake WR1 to prove he is still the best.



Let me reiterate, WR1 (Name only)

Just accept that LCW got his WR1 in absent of LD and most of his title (after og08) meant nothing just because of that.

Like it or not LCW has yet to prove he is worth the world no.1 title.

yes, that is possible if XXF or LYB tell LD to lose:)

yes, it's not a big deal for LD to win again but it's a big deal for lcw if he beat LD or win CM title.. Imagine BF will be liven up 1000% with many awaking zombies, oops i mean bolehers:p

I have nothing against you praising your own idol but please be a little more respectful to other players. Posts like all the above are the reasons why Draws Japan Open 2009 turned out to be a unpleasant one.
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=74905

Where's badssp07 and passiontea's preaching when we needed them the most? We need you guys to free all the troubled souls here.

Go LD! Although judging by yesterday's matches LCW appears to be in slightly better form and also should be less tired (his match was 30 minutes shorter).

yes, that is possible if XXF or LYB tell LD to lose:)
It's another LD vs LCW again,
and cooler is so excited again :)

hope the match is not similar to last year Olympic when LCW lost to LD so badly ...

......
For those people wondering whether Lin Dan is the best China player, instead of grabbing the title by fixing games, you have to watch this;...

In the interview after the match with Park at China master, Lin Dan was asked to commnet the match and the tournament, he said: I didn't prepared specifically for this Chang Zhou master cup. I can accept anywhere it finally ends up with. Potential oppornents like Lee CW, Du PY, Chen Yin and Gade are all very strong, I hope I try my best to show a better match to the Chang Zhou local people, I didn't set up any specific goal for this master cup, My goal this year is the national games later this year.

it's amazing that Lee CW is such a consistant player. Next week, he will fight in Japan again. While Lin dan only concentrates on a few picked tournaments, therefore, the competiton between Lin Dan and Lee CW is unfair!

I said unfair has two sides meanings, not only unfair to Lin dan, but also unfair to Lee CW. Since LCW works so hard, participants so many tournaments, therefore he will collect much more ranking points than LD, this unfairness has been seen by many people here already, I want to emphasize the other unfair for LCW.

Since LD participates only a few while LCW fights all the tournaments, so when they meet each other, LD surely has more energy, more concentration and more prepareness than LCW for each of their encounters, therefore he can deliver better results. What's the reason LD won most of the time, partly because he fights fewer matches than LCW. The importances of each encounters between LD and LCW for LD have been accumulated more and more, while the importances of each encounters between LD and LCW for LCW have been diluted more and more.

That's the unfairness long ignored by people, including LCW himself. Therefore, in order to beat LD, LCW should reduce the tournaments he's in, and wait relaxed at fewer well prepared tournaments for fighting LD. But this is not good for a professional like LCW.

Anyhow, now LD is concentrating on national games in China, it should be a perfect chance for LCW now. Good luck

I'm surprise that RTM won't be broadcasting this match...I wan to see it !!! Good luck LCW !!

what ?? how bout the finals ?

Right on!

On the other hand, LD earned his privilege to "pick" tournaments through 3 world champions and 1 olympic gold. :cool:

Of course another factor is that LD can still play world-class opponents even if he does not attend any tournament. Not so for LCW.

The above said, I don't think LD/LYB are willing to accept defeat on home ground.


it's amazing that Lee CW is such a consistant player. Next week, he will fight in Japan again. While Lin dan only concentrates on a few picked tournaments, therefore, the competiton between Lin Dan and Lee CW is unfair!

I said unfair has two sides meanings, not only unfair to Lin dan, but also unfair to Lee CW. Since LCW works so hard, participants so many tournaments, therefore he will collect much more ranking points than LD, this unfairness has been seen by many people here already, I want to emphasize the other unfair for LCW.

Since LD participates only a few while LCW fights all the tournaments, so when they meet each other, LD surely has more energy, more concentration and more prepareness than LCW for each of their encounters, therefore he can deliver better results. What's the reason LD won most of the time, partly because he fights fewer matches than LCW. The importances of each encounters between LD and LCW for LD have been accumulated more and more, while the importances of each encounters between LD and LCW for LCW have been diluted more and more.

That's the unfairness long ignored by people, including LCW himself. Therefore, in order to beat LD, LCW should reduce the tournaments he's in, and wait relaxed at fewer well prepared tournaments for fighting LD. But this is not good for a professional like LCW.

Anyhow, now LD is concentrating on national games in China, it should be a perfect chance for LCW now. Good luck

LD looked visibly tired at the end of the QF match. While LCW cruised through DPY. It's like Olympic final, with switched roles. ;)

LCW said he would treat this match like training. If he really can stay this cool during the match, I think he has at least 50-50 chance of beating LD.

I said unfair has two sides meanings, not only unfair to Lin dan, but also unfair to Lee CW. Since LCW works so hard, participants so many tournaments, therefore he will collect much more ranking points than LD, this unfairness has been seen by many people here already, I want to emphasize the other unfair for LCW.

Since LD participates only a few while LCW fights all the tournaments, so when they meet each other, LD surely has more energy, more concentration and more prepareness than LCW for each of their encounters, therefore he can deliver better results. What's the reason LD won most of the time, partly because he fights fewer matches than LCW. The importances of each encounters between LD and LCW for LD have been accumulated more and more, while the importances of each encounters between LD and LCW for LCW have been diluted more and more.

That's the unfairness long ignored by people, including LCW himself. Therefore, in order to beat LD, LCW should reduce the tournaments he's in, and wait relaxed at fewer well prepared tournaments for fighting LD. But this is not good for a professional like LCW.

Anyhow, now LD is concentrating on national games in China, it should be a perfect chance for LCW now. Good luck we ignore your claim of unfairness to lcw because it is down right ..... silly, bogus, biased.
As u know, lcw is wr #1 for a quite a while, so in each tournament, he get to wtart out by by playing qualifers and lowly players, while LD, with lower seeding, has to play good players from the start. ex, PSH and Hsieh. Same thing in 09 WC, lcw seed #1, LD starts in the middle. Ya, this is so unfair to lcw, lol.

Since lcw plays more tournaments, his chance of winning more title should be higher than LD. It is not 100% correct to say LD plays better because he get more rest time. Not playing often can also degrade one's performance. Did u read that LD just said he is so well rested and not practiced for this china master? He almost lost to PSH in 3 sets. Better yet, just ask HH and taufik, these 2 boys are very well rested all the time and yet how are their performance lately?

LD looked visibly tired at the end of the QF match. While LCW cruised through DPY. It's like Olympic final, with switched roles. ;)

LCW said he would treat this match like training. If he really can stay this cool during the match, I think he has at least 50-50 chance of beating LD.
ya, it is so unfair to lcw,

That's the unfairness long ignored by people, including LCW himself. Therefore, in order to beat LD, LCW should reduce the tournaments he's in, and wait relaxed at fewer well prepared tournaments for fighting LD. But this is not good for a professional like LCW.

Yes, the whole MAS MS team is very well rested indeed except for lcw. Therefore, BAM should send their other MS players to more tournaments, like the china master, where they have chances to wore out LD, CJ, BCL and other new chinese entrants, so to increase lcw's chances of winning abroad. Some of u are so envy of how LYB is doing it for LD anyway:p

LCW to be thumped in 2 sets

...
LCW said he would treat this match like training. If he really can stay this cool during the match, I think he has at least 50-50 chance of beating LD.
..isn't that always true when both of them meet each other??..50-50 chance for Chong Wei..

If LCW wis tomorrow, his fans will create a thread here " LCW smashed LD" etc etc with all glowing praise but if he lost, the title will be "Why LCW lost?" and it will fill with lots of blaming and harsh words for him.

Personally I don't think so... Before this tournament I would put it at LD 55 : 45 LCW... But LD's performance against PSH is not very convincing.

But, man, "fundamentalist" LD fans will laugh at this statement of yours... Are you fully prepared?:D

..isn't that always true when both of them meet each other??..50-50 chance for Chong Wei..

Personally I don't think so... Before this tournament I would put it at LD 55 : 45 LCW... But LD's performance against PSH is not very convincing.

But, man, "fundamentalist" LD fans will laugh at this statement of yours... Are you fully prepared?:Di think fundamentalist ld fans knew what ctjcad had meant:p

Let me reiterate, WR1 (Name only)

Just accept that LCW got his WR1 in absent of LD and most of his title (after og08) meant nothing just because of that.

Like it or not LCW has yet to prove he is worth the world no.1 title.


I must admit that LD is the Best but don't ever look down people ALEX! Fake WR1???!!! doubt it! What do you think for being a WR1 but ridiculous attitutes on court????????????? sure you know who i meant... YES is HIM that i am talking about.


I don't really want to attack players eventhough i had just did it but i just followed you ALEX!

LCW to be thumped in 2 sets
LD is so generous, how about 3 sets? :D:cool:

what do you mean by fake WR1? that is the system in the world ranking from the BWF, and u said that is a fake wr1? open your eyes..just accept the fact that lee chong wei is your wr 1..like it or not...

You can't blame LCW for getting most of his titles after OG08 without Lin dan's presence, who cares if LD doesnt participate in the tournament that lcw won? That's not LCW's problem. without his presence, lcw won it, life still goes on.;) and like it or not, lee chong wei is still the wr1 ..that's the reality.:cool:

sorry bro,,, than i think u should teach your own bolehians fan Pjswift this same behaviour....
like it or not Lin Dan won that big tittles
like it or not Lin Dan achievment was much way better than Lcw
and like it or not LI YONGBO is the most succesfull head coach in the baddy world...

teach her how to accept the facts since she look has a great problem with Li Yongbo and Lin Dan.....:p:p:p:o:o:o:o

lol,why so many post?
one simply statement is good enough:it is lindan victory to lose

LD really don't need this title so i don't fret over if LD win or lose.
LD play because li ning need lin dan to jolt up the li ning's event:D

as pjswift have said, ld needed jia you fans cheering to win, and what's better to bring in more ticket revenue than to ask LD to show up.

lol,why so many post?
one simply statement is good enough:it is lindan victory to losebecause TH vs LD is no longer hot enough:p

mouth watering indeed. win or loose... this is what all fans want to see. am I right? ;)

mouth watering indeed. win or loose... this is what all fans want to see. am I right? ;)
the sky sure ain't falling on ya ;)

It's another LD vs LCW again,
and cooler is so excited again :)
yeah, as usual..:p
sorry bro,,, than i think u should teach your own bolehians fan Pjswift this same behaviour....
like it or not Lin Dan won that big tittles
like it or not Lin Dan achievment was much way better than Lcw
and like it or not LI YONGBO is the most succesfull head coach in the baddy world...

teach her how to accept the facts since she look has a great problem with Li Yongbo and Lin Dan.....:p:p:p:o:o:o:o
yeah, and like it or not, the REALITY is LEE CHONG WEI is your WR1 ms player right now:):p:p:p:p
LCW to be thumped in 2 sets
LD to be thumped in 3 sets.. give face.home grown:D

Chong Wei, Lin Dan on different missions in semi-finals

By RAJES PAUL

KUALA LUMPUR: One is out to regain the faith of his fans while the other is hoping not to let his home fans down again.
So, expect a fiery duel when Malaysia’s world number one Lee Chong Wei takes on world champion Lin Dan of China in the men’s singles semi-final in the China Masters at Changzhou today.
Malaysia’s Choong Tan Fook-Lee Wan Wah also kept Malaysia’s hopes alive in the men’s doubles when they marched into the semi-finals. The duo who beat Li Tian-Shen Ye of China 21-13, 22-20 yesterday, will take on Guo Zhengdong-Xu Chen next.
Yesterday, Chong Wei survived a fierce first game assault from China youngster Du Pengyu before prevailing 21-19, 21-15.
Home favourite Lin Dan, who failed to make it to the final last year, also did not have it easy and had to come back from the brink of defeat to beat South Korean Park Sung-hwan 21-15, 13-21, 23-21.
This year, Lin Dan has beaten Chong Wei at the All-England final (March) and the Sudirman Cup (May) while Chong Wei pulled the rug from under the China ace at the Swiss Open final (March).
http://thestar.com.my/archives/2009/9/19/sports/p64-chongweiandcht.JPG
The other semi-final will be between Boonsak Ponsana of Thailand and World Championships runner-up Chen Jin.
Boonsak was earlier involved in a controversial quarter-final match against Peter Gade Christensen, with the Dane venting his anger at the umpire for giving him a warning.
The Dane claimed that the umpire made three bad line calls in the rubber game, which resulted in the Thai winning 21-16, 19-21, 21-18 in 69 minutes.
“Two were very bad calls ... I said no and she gave me a warning. Of course, I was affected by the bad calls as she gave him (Ponsana) the points.”
Former internationals Gan Teik Chai-Tan Bin Shen failed to make it a double joy when they lost 18-21, 15-21 to South Koreans Cho Gun-woo-Yoo Yeon-seong.


http://thestar.com.my/sports/story.asp?file=/2009/9/19/sports/4750301&sec=sports

What time arr on Astro???
Need to prepare for Raya also..
I'll be with you, LCW

What time arr on Astro???
Need to prepare for Raya also..
I'll be with you, LCW
1 pm i think..stay tuned:D
any kuih raya for me?:D

many posts here are funny, so funny that remind me the Maury Povich Show. Before the paternity tests results about who's the baby daddy for mothers who cheated, Maury always let his guests fight using verbal aggression or even physical confrontations (not as often as Springer show). Common occurrence is that each person will claim that he or she is beyond 100% (often 200% or 1,000%) sure that the man is/is not the father, with figures sometimes reaching as high as 1,000,000%, the highest this has it gone is "infinity-plus 1 percent....

after those heated confrontation, Maury then opened his envelope, and DNA test then proceeded to prove her wrong.

We have the same show here, one guy claims Lee CW 100% win, then another claims Lin Dan 200% win, then 1000%, 2000%, ..., infinite + 1 percent win !

...... but the results will be revealed in just a few hours.

so far so good, in Maury show, after revealing the DNA result, the woman who failed to predict the father runs backstage crying, often collapsing (or sometimes even diving) to the floor in the fetal position. In such cases, the man who's right in claim, often receives an apology from his accuser. Maury goes over to the woman, consoling her, saying something like "We'll help you find who the father is..." and dragging her back on stage. Meanwhile, the man is gloating to the audience about being right in a very uncivil manner.

But on this forum, we never know whether or not those guys (indra, X-ball,...) run backstage crying, and even apologize to the guys who predicted correctly.

The guys who predicted correctly of course will be gloating to the others about being right, but they forgot to console guys like indra, X-ball,etc, and dragging them back on stage/forum...

we should act better than Maury's guests.

many posts here are funny, so funny that remind me the Maury Povich Show. Before the paternity tests results about who's the baby daddy for mothers who cheated, Maury always let his guests fight using verbal aggression or even physical confrontations (not as often as Springer show). Common occurrence is that each person will claim that he or she is beyond 100% (often 200% or 1,000%) sure that the man is/is not the father, with figures sometimes reaching as high as 1,000,000%, the highest this has it gone is "infinity-plus 1 percent....

after those heated confrontation, Maury then opened his envelope, and DNA test then proceeded to prove her wrong.

We have the same show here, one guy claims Lee CW 100% win, then another claims Lin Dan 200% win, then 1000%, 2000%, ..., infinite + 1 percent win !

...... but the results will be revealed in just a few hours.

so far so good, in Maury show, after revealing the DNA result, the woman who failed to predict the father runs backstage crying, often collapsing (or sometimes even diving) to the floor in the fetal position. In such cases, the man who's right in claim, often receives an apology from his accuser. Maury goes over to the woman, consoling her, saying something like "We'll help you find who the father is..." and dragging her back on stage. Meanwhile, the man is gloating to the audience about being right in a very uncivil manner.

we should act better than Maury's guests.
ya, i never understands why a smart and articulated gal connie chung marry a guy who live and breathe on this wacko show. I guess it's the money. U should send this post to connie.

1 pm i think..stay tuned:D
any kuih raya for me?:D

As of now, Astro website only shows the afternoon session but not the night session where LD vs LCW match will be played.

Let me reiterate, WR1 (Name only)

Just accept that LCW got his WR1 in absent of LD and most of his title (after og08) meant nothing just because of that.

Like it or not LCW has yet to prove he is worth the world no.1 title.

It's not LCW's fault that he is WR1. It's the system that puts him there. Dinara Safina is also WRI in tennis but she hasn't won any major tournaments yet.

It's not LCW's fault that he is WR1. It's the system that puts him there. Dinara Safina is also WRI in tennis but she hasn't won any major tournaments yet.

Yes, its true,...but people like Ajaib, Volcom, Cooler, Alex.....just cant relax themselves if LD who has won all majors still cant become WR1.......so they have to ask LD to participate more, i m sure LD will become WR1 very soon....:D:D Please dont blame it on LCW.....:p:p

Yes, its true,...but people like Ajaib, Volcom, Cooler, Alex.....just cant relax themselves if LD who has won all majors still cant become WR1.......so they have to ask LD to participate more, i m sure LD will become WR1 very soon....:D:D Please dont blame it on LCW.....:p:plet me say this on BF record, i would prefer LD NOT to be ranked higher than WR #3 after the 08 OG until 2011, ok?

It's not LCW's fault that he is WR1. It's the system that puts him there. Dinara Safina is also WRI in tennis but she hasn't won any major tournaments yet.


Originally Posted by jasonmarc http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1255346#post1255346)
Yes, its true,...but people like Ajaib, Volcom, Cooler, Alex.....just cant relax themselves if LD who has won all majors still cant become WR1.......so they have to ask LD to participate more, i m sure LD will become WR1 very soon....:D:D Please dont blame it on LCW.....

Agree with you, Jasonmarc. Give LCW a break, those guys should be thankful to LCW that he is still competing, otherwise where will the passion be? What satisfaction will LD achieve without LCW now that TH is no more the same player he used to be.

who is AE champion?
who is the World champion?
who is the OLY champion?
at this moment world ranking is meanless.
we all know who is the best.
who have the talents, mentality, better looking, and more fans?
enough said!
The only thing LCW is better i.e. being hardworking and training like a horse.

who is AE champion?
who is the World champion?
who is the OLY champion?
at this moment world ranking is meanless.
we all know who is the best.
who have the talents, mentality, better looking, and more fans?
enough said!
The only thing LCW is better i.e. being hardworking and training like a horse.

Yes, true,...then let LCW alone......WR1 is meaningless to you...its ok...!

LD is the best, we all know !...:D:D and also generous, we all know....!:D:D

but WR1 is still important to LCW and his fans.....u cant force everyone to think alike as you......

Again if LD compete more in future,....i m sure he will become WR1 very soon.....and we all know that very well.....

The only thing LCW is better i.e. being hardworking and training like a horse.

... therefore LD sometimes would show him some appreciation, by giving LCW some wins if the match is not so important to LD himself...

so today LCW is more likely to win...

or LD is more likely to lose... :D:D:D

But hey, it doesn't really matter. Each player has his/her own strengths. At least it is not disputed that Chong Wei has the best and coolest defence on court : )

Originally Posted by jasonmarc http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1255346#post1255346)

Agree with you, Jasonmarc. Give LCW a break, ....

that's okay... people used to give LCW many breaks... yet it was always the big mouth from LCW or people surrounding him broke the break people given... no need to mention here again la... there have been so many threads discussed about what they have been talking.. before TC, before WC, before OG, after LCW be the so-called #1.... :(:(

Yes, true,...then let LCW alone......WR1 is meaningless to you...its ok...!

LD is the best, we all know !...:D:D and also generous, we all know....!:D:D

but WR1 is still important to LCW and his fans.....u cant force everyone to think alike as you......

Again if LD compete more in future,....i m sure he will become WR1 very soon.....and we all know that very well.....

but LD doesn't need WR #1 to pay his bills
but LD doesn't need WR #1 for good seeding to win titles.
LD as #1 been there, done that.
LD wanting WR #1 again is bolehian imagination.

let me say this on BF record, i would prefer LD NOT to be ranked higher than WR #3 after the 08 OG until 2011, ok?

OK..! Fair enough if LD (the world best) and Chn team plan not to become WR1.... but pls dont blame LCW to become WR1, Its unfair to tease LCW being WR1 but not the be best in the world....:)

OK..! Fair enough if LD (the world best) and Chn team plan not to become WR1.... but pls dont blame LCW to become WR1, Its unfair to tease LCW being WR1 but not the be best in the world....:)we (or i) don't blame lcw WR status. It is u bolehians who bring up lcw WR #1 status at every breath. i believe we weren't teasing lcw but rather teasing the hypered lcw fans who bring up lcw being #1. It is senseless to tease lcw when he doesn't read bf, right?

but LD doesn't need WR #1 to pay his bills
but LD doesn't need WR #1 for good seeding to win titles.
LD as #1 been there, done that.
LD wanting WR #1 again is bolehian imagination.


fair,..LD dont need to be WR1.....but his fans cant accept others to be WR1.......in this case, LD is generous, but his fans......? :o

we (or i) don't blame lcw WR status. It is u bolehians who bring up lcw WR #1 status at every breath. i believe we weren't teasing lcw but rather teasing the hypered lcw fans who bring up lcw being #1. It is senseless to tease lcw when he doesn't read bf, right?

Since u 'jia u fans' are so easy with this WR1 thing,...then why so care about what LCW's fans brings up the WR thing.....just ignore it...! ;)

fair,..LD dont need to be WR1.....but his fans cant accept others to be WR1.......in this case, LD is generous, but his fans......? :oi can't speak for all ld fans, u know my position. I like ld resting like an iceberg, staying low and obscure while everyone else skirring around for the best seat on the titanic in case LD shows up but we all know what happen, when the iceberg LD do shows up, it doesn't matter what seeding the other players are, they r all going down. Of course, iceberg can have its off day and misses the boat:D

i say best of luck to lcw but i also have to be realistic about it.

mine prediction. 3 sets, lin dan for the win. :D

all the best to both guys !!!!!:)

with CJ lost to BP in the semi final, I am sure LD will have to win later. LYB will not let the MS to without china in the final. Moreover, it is held in China. So, LD will win later.

with CJ lost to BP in the semi final, I am sure LD will have to win later. LYB will not let the MS to without china in the final. Moreover, it is held in China. So, LD will win later.

So, LD has to play all out later,.....can not be generous anymore....? :rolleyes:

Even if CJ have won just now, i think LYB still want LD to win over LCW,..because if LCW plays CJ in the final.........CJ still cant assured the title to Chn...! :cool:

So, LD is must win over LCW, regardless CJ's win or lose.........;)

So, LD has to play all out later,.....can not be generous anymore....? :rolleyes:

Even if CJ have won just now, i think LYB still want LD to win over LCW,..because if LCW plays CJ in the final.........CJ still cant assured the title to Chn...! :cool:

So, LD is must win over LCW, regardless CJ's win or lose.........;)
haha, just now the 'bribe' doesn't work good for CJ. :D I think CJ rather wants PG to bt BP yesterday. :D

this wil be an intersting game

haha, just now the 'bribe' doesn't work good for CJ. :D I think CJ rather wants PG to bt BP yesterday. :D


:D....At recent CJ form, still not a sure win even to play against PG.......

I think, in Chn team,....LD is too far ahead and others MS are left behine too far away.....;)

:D....At recent CJ form, still not a sure win even to play against PG.......

I think, in Chn team,....LD is too far ahead and others MS are left behine too far away.....;)
yup. Just similar to LCW's case. LCW is also too far ahead and his teammates just can't catch him up. But the the only different is that China's MS backup team players are far more better than MAS. :D

yup. Just similar to LCW's case. LCW is also too far ahead and his teammates just can't catch him up. But the the only different is that China's MS backup team players are far more better than MAS. :D

Very true,.....;)

lol, what an interesting debate going on:D

lol, what an interesting debate going on:D


george, that was 2 hours ago......:D

george, that was 2 hours ago......:D
i enjoy watching that just like watching a football match:p
between selangor and manchester united:p

i enjoy watching that just like watching a football match:p
between selangor and manchester united:p

and upsets do happened...:D

wow that match (sel-Man U ) was wayyyyyyyyyyyyy back

no game... aiy0 y0~~

apa macam!!!

it appears that they are not showing it live.... anybody here knows where we can watch live??? please help this is an emergency!

looks like I'm not the only one anxious about this match but I don't think there is any broadcast on this game...looks like we have to depend on the only reliable livescore..

I think a good match is being played now..their like exchanging points everytime..

I watched AE 2004 final yesterday (Lin Dan vs Peter Gade). With that in mind and also watching matches over the years, as much as I wish my country man LCW to win the championship, super Dan will be crowned. ALL THE BEST LCW!!!

As expected LD has risen to the occasion :(

Congratulations Lin Dan !!!

Datuk LCW, jangan tunggu lama-lama, kena hentam bulu tangkis cepat-cepat!!! Sampai jumpa lagi !!!

surprised that the 3rd set was so easy!! what happened? LCW ran out of steam again?

the last set was definitely cepat-cepat!!!

LD RULES

Just go home LCW

HAaaaaHHHH??
Lost again????!!!

HAaaaaHHHH??
Lost again????!!!

If we put it this way, it becomes not too bad ...

"Had World No.1 LCW not squandered the first game, he would have beaten Super Dan!" :cool:

One look at the SF results, it really scares me. The entire page is almost covered in red, ie, the red flag of China.

We just have to hope for another upset from Boonsak that he is able to beat the Olympic and World Champ LD tomorrow. Otherwise it really becomes a sea of red!

11-7 go straight win 21-7... what a lame things :eek::eek:

what is lee chong wei doing wrong, keeps losing to lin dan!:confused::mad:

Once again LD has proven he is the real world No.1

Just retire la, LCW

Pui

what is lee chong wei doing wrong, keeps losing to lin dan!:confused:

wearing too many bling-bling. listening to misbun. breaking up with WMC.
He will say he tried his best but in the rubber he couldn't tahan the pain in his injured leg any longer

wearing too many bling-bling. listening to misbun. breaking up with WMC.
He will say he tried his best but in the rubber he couldn't tahan the pain in his injured leg any longer

Then he's got a good reason: his injured leg.

I think we should give him a break.. I won't deny that it was a poor performance in the third set but we should give him credit for a great fight in the first two sets. Not to forget this tournament took place in China which has better advantage for LD.

Although the third set was disappointing. I do believe his knee injury has affected his performance and so he gave up fighting in the 3rd set as said by him during the post match interview.

Who would want to give up and lost at 7 points in the third set, especially when he himself know is a very important game? The fact that LCW fought so hard for the first 2 sets proved that he too wants to win. Let's give him some credit and give him a break and hopefully he recovers from the pain that's affected him.

Hi there,

What is this? Using the word "Pui" in this forum? Are you sure what you are writing?
Asking LCW to go home?(Of course after every competition players do go home) And may I ask, what is your world ranking that let you to make a comment like that? You should really consider making better sentences and better choice of word. I am not going to make further unpleasant comment but please respect players which you can't beat.

I also hope the moderators will look into this type of comment..

MCH

He don't need to as he had already won all major titles in his career. Now he just needs to participate in some SS and continue winning Major tournaments. Another reason is to stay injury free of course.

Everyone knows he is the best albeit being ranked world no.4(or 5) and i enjoy seeing him beating the so called fake WR1 to prove he is still the best.


CONGRATULATIONS LIN DAN!!!!:):):):):D:D:D:D

Yeah, just like in WTA tennis, where Safina is called no.1 while she has never won a Grand Slam!

Lee CW never won an All England or a World Championship. :p Lin Dan went down because his coach didn't send him, maybe.

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Although the third set was disappointing. I do believe his knee injury has affected his performance and so he gave up fighting in the 3rd set as said by him during the post match interview.

Who would want to give up and lost at 7 points in the third set, especially when he himself know is a very important game? The fact that LCW fought so hard for the first 2 sets proved that he too wants to win. Let's give him some credit and give him a break and hopefully he recovers from the pain that's affected him.

Stop giving excuses, if he knew he got injury then why still want to participate and not rest at home? If this is true then he is simply insulting badminton and his opponents. Like it or not, a lose is a lose.

what is lee chong wei doing wrong, keeps losing to lin dan!:confused::mad:

LCW did nothing wrong, just not as good as LD....

think you post just to argue. haven't you been taught that giving in the best in every sport is called sportmanship and not insulting. Don't tell eveybody that you do not know what is sportmanship and what is insult.. hmmmmm...

Stop giving excuses, if he knew he got injury then why still want to participate and not rest at home? If this is true then he is simply insulting badminton and his opponents. Like it or not, a lose is a lose.

... or he should give up at 11:7, no need to stay on the court for another 10:0...:mad:

think you post just to argue. haven't you been taught that giving in the best in every sport is called sportmanship and not insulting. Don't tell eveybody that you do not know what is sportmanship and what is insult.. hmmmmm...

then you know nothing about sports... this is digging your worst, not giving your best...

in every sport, if it is really a serious injury, and did come to a point that he could not play, he should seek treatment (like Nadal taken the rest for few months... even losing his WR#1 by doing so...)... this is also common during football match, injured players were substituted...

it's just a game, no need to put your leg or life at stake...

think you post just to argue. haven't you been taught that giving in the best in every sport is called sportmanship and not insulting. Don't tell eveybody that you do not know what is sportmanship and what is insult.. hmmmmm...

No, i was disgruntled by you CW fans defending him vehemently and keep giving lame excuses.

Giving the best? While being injured? So it's like last time he blame on food poisoning, blame on not well prepared etc. All these are insults to badminton and furthermore to the player. If you're not well prepared and 100% in condition, it's best to just not play at all.

I'm not a fan of LCW but in fact, I admire Lin Dan's play. But i think LCW has put in his best for at least the first 2 sets. That is what we call sportmanship. He tried but yet he failed. So shouldn't we gave him some credit?? How can you call it an insult?

you sure i do not know sports? can't he play at the beginning? He is trying his best to the point that if he cannot take it he just give up... Same as some of us... If it is to the extend that if he don't rest then he will not be able to play forever anymore then i agree with you. but is this the case?

Everyone gives excuses, like being "injured", having a bad day, being unlucky, etc. You know why? Because it's much easier to give excuses than to admit that the other guy is better than you. No disrespect to LCW who is a great player, but LD is simply better. His repeated domination in their head-to-head results has proven this.

Wish to LCW to be in better form when he meets LD next time. After all, he is still the person that has the best chance to beat LD currently in the world.

Everyone gives excuses, like being "injured", having a bad day, being unlucky, etc. You know why? Because it's much easier to give excuses than to admit that the other guy is better than you. No disrespect to LCW who is a great player, but LD is simply better. His repeated domination in their head-to-head results has proven this.

'Injury' is the most common excuse for losing a game by players, especially when DLCW lost to LD. Others such as off-form, linesman acted unprofessionally and LYB's threaten words also being as an excuse for lost the game.

Look at PG while he was still suffering from migraine he never gave up and fight to the end. There are many sportsmen while injured played their best till the last point. That's the spirit of a great sportsman.
Whether injured or not LCW lacks something that can push him beyond LD.
I just hope he withdraw from Japan Open otherwise he will be targeted in this forum.

Hi there,

What is this? Using the word "Pui" in this forum? Are you sure what you are writing?
Asking LCW to go home?(Of course after every competition players do go home) And may I ask, what is your world ranking that let you to make a comment like that? You should really consider making better sentences and better choice of word. I am not going to make further unpleasant comment but please respect players which you can't beat.

I also hope the moderators will look into this type of comment..

MCH

Haha..

If we do not have any world's ranking/lower than the player, means that we cant made comments on him/her? What logic is this?

Btw, 'PUI' is using to express the dissapointment of our beloved player on his poor performance. A very heart-breaking results, again.

Look at PG while he was still suffering from migraine he never gave up and fight to the end. There are many sportsmen while injured played their best till the last point. That's the spirit of a great sportsman.
Whether injured or not LCW lacks something that can push him beyond LD.
I just hope he withdraw from Japan Open otherwise he will be targeted in this forum.

What do you mean targeted? I think many people here like LCW.

as usual, this 2 players matches results outcome will became a hot issue here everytime:D
lol

DLCW has 90% to win title, provided that LD did not participate in that particulars event. If LD there, the chances of DLCW being crowned champion. i am afraid is 0%.

Once again LD has proven he is the real world No.1

Just retire la, LCW

Pui
so will u be the one replacing him as mas wr1 number after this?;)
u sure u can beat lin dan?

Giving his best for the first 2 sets and then simply handing the third in such fashion is just a big let down. If he fight on like PSH in the quarterfinal I will gave him a standing ovation. Only a wimp will take the easy way out injured or otherwise.

What do you mean targeted? I think many people here like LCW.

If he didn't withdraw from the Japan open then his excuse for losing in the rubber due to his knee problem would not hold water.

if u guys think abt LD's interviews, he always say wat he didnt do so well in the games, no matter how easy the win is, or if he has got the champion, he always focuses on finding his own weakness, and overcome it, like in 2005 when he loss to taufik, he was totally outplayed at net at that time, but now, he is one of the best net player for men singles, that is the right sportsmanship, and i think that is his secret to be the best player in the world

if u guys think abt LD's interviews, he always say wat he didnt do so well in the games, no matter how easy the win is, or if he has got the champion, he always focuses on finding his own weakness, and overcome it, like in 2005 when he loss to taufik, he was totally outplayed at net at that time, but now, he is one of the best net player for men singles, that is the right sportsmanship, and i think that is his secret to be the best player in the world

Yes, agree strongly with what you said. My coach always tells me there are no limits to improvements you can make on your game and most importantly, personality and mentality.

Well done Lin Dan :)

if u guys think abt LD's interviews, he always say wat he didnt do so well in the games, no matter how easy the win is, or if he has got the champion, he always focuses on finding his own weakness, and overcome it, like in 2005 when he loss to taufik, he was totally outplayed at net at that time, but now, he is one of the best net player for men singles, that is the right sportsmanship, and i think that is his secret to be the best player in the world

agree with u...


hehe... everytime MAS fans (i mean LCW fans) will make this kind of thread...:rolleyes:..good fans..:rolleyes:

agree with u...


hehe... everytime MAS fans (i mean LCW fans) will make this kind of thread...:rolleyes:..good fans..:rolleyes:

haha, i am a chinese fans =) ofc a die hard LD fans =) i am trying to apply his attitude in my own pursue in life and sports ^^

However good LD is but he never ever beats LCW in Malaysia soil.This is LD's next challenge. Another thing is LD also never wins a title of Indonesia Open SS regardless China team considers it is an important tournament or not.

agree with u...


hehe... everytime MAS fans (i mean LCW fans) will make this kind of thread...:rolleyes:..good fans..:rolleyes:
what type of thread? Lin dan vs lcw thread?:rolleyes: or whitewash thread? remember this 2 thread always opened by both lcw and ld fans;)
hehehe:D

However good LD is but he never ever beats LCW in Malaysia soil.This is LD's next challenge. Another thing is LD also never wins a title of Indonesia Open SS regardless China team considers it is an important tournament or not.
Very well said. He needs to conquer SEA next;) Wana watch how will he fare against LCW again if he play in Malaysia once again after 2006..:)

I think LCW also has a psychological problem when facing LD. In their matches usually the first game is very close, but then he gets wiped out in the second or third game.

The key of LD's mental toughness is that he can keep focusing in critical points even in game/match points. Look at how LD won the match in QF against PSH 23-21 at the deciding 3rd set for example.

The key of LD's mental toughness is that he can keep focusing in critical points even in game/match points. Look at how LD won the match in QF against PSH 23-21 at the deciding 3rd set for example.

Haha, LD actually had a 20-15 lead in the 3rd in that match, but let PSH get it all back. But I was impressed by how once it got to 20-20 he was able to suddenly re-focus and played the last several points brilliantly.

Personally I don't think so... Before this tournament I would put it at LD 55 : 45 LCW... But LD's performance against PSH is not very convincing.

But, man, "fundamentalist" LD fans will laugh at this statement of yours... Are you fully prepared?:D
- With today's result, you should've stuck to your original version of LD 55:45 LCW..:cool:
- You most likely overestimated PSH's rubber game effort and underestimated LD's effort in their match..
- I think the better term is "bias" fans (yes, it goes across the board to any players)..no??..:confused::eek:
- What i meant by "LCW has always had a 50-50 chance vs. LD" is, since i view LD and LCW as the current 2 top MS players, and considering there is only 1 winner and 1 loser in a match, i tend to view their matches as a 50-50 battle.
Unfortunately, in this yr's China Masters SF match, LCW failed to live up to his expectation in the 3rd game as he wilted away in almost a similar fashion as Taufik did in the 2006 Japan Open MS Final.
...
We just have to hope for another upset from Boonsak that he is able to beat the Olympic and World Champ LD tomorrow. Otherwise it really becomes a sea of red!
It's good P-Man was able to secure a Finals appearance to prevent a clean all-Chinese Finals. However, imo, i'm afraid the buck stops here and his chances of preventing a sea of red all across the board are slim and none.:p

lol,so many CUTE comment here.
showing how mature is the poster^^

I am puzzle by LCW action. If he really still had a nagging knee injury, why he play so many events this year? Like gold Grand prix. (lower than SS events)

I wonder if he play Japan Open after his lost here? If he really had some health issues, it will benefit him in long term not to play there, right?

Or he (or his fans) just used the health issues every time he lost as excuses and when he win titles, suddenly there are no talk about the health issues.

I do believe that LD main focus now are only All England titles, World Championship titles, Thomas and Sudirman Cup titles and Olympic gold medal 2012. Thats why he only play very few events this year and so on to focus on these important titles and keep him in prime shape and try to become the first MS to win gold medal second time in a row in Olympic 2012.

Cause when anybody and everybody who love badminton talk about one player achievement as a badminton legend, is not about how many titles or SS titles you won.

But how many All England, World CH and Olympic medal you won, plus if you also help your country win Thomas, Uber or Sudirman Cup.

Other titles just did not have that important values.

......................................

So, LD has to play all out later,.....can not be generous anymore....? :rolleyes:

Even if CJ have won just now, i think LYB still want LD to win over LCW,..because if LCW plays CJ in the final.........CJ still cant assured the title to Chn...! :cool:

So, LD is must win over LCW, regardless CJ's win or lose.........;):) u beginning seeing things more clearly;) Must be from all my persuasions and cattle probbings:D

... or he should give up at 11:7, no need to stay on the court for another 10:0...:mad:on that part, i give lcw a thumb up for not bailing out of walking out. He said he'd try his best and he did what he said.;)

... or he should give up at 11:7, no need to stay on the court for another 10:0...:mad:on that part, i give lcw a thumb up for not bailing out of walking out. He said he tried his best and he did what he said. i think he stay on the 3rd set for his fans;)

No, i was disgruntled by you CW fans defending him vehemently and keep giving lame excuses.

Giving the best? While being injured? So it's like last time he blame on food poisoning, blame on not well prepared etc. All these are insults to badminton and furthermore to the player. If you're not well prepared and 100% in condition, it's best to just not play at all.but by keep playing more tourneys, he can retain WR #1 longer;)

Haha, LD actually had a 20-15 lead in the 3rd in that match, but let PSH get it all back. But I was impressed by how once it got to 20-20 he was able to suddenly re-focus and played the last several points brilliantly.
ld just want to entertain the home crowd to boost excitement. Running over every opponents can be boring to watch u know:D I've said it b4 LD has more gears than other players, he just need to time his gearing selection;)

but by keep playing more tourneys, he can retain WR #1 longer;)
yes, agree with you. Since he could not win in any big tournaments, of course he needs more points to secure his WR#1. ;) Unlike LD, for him, WR#1 so what? Ranking is not important to him now. He will question: have you ever won OG? Have you ever won WC? Never right? Actually I would rather LD could not get back his WR#1, so that our pawers can pick big point when the match involve LD and LCW. :D

Actually I would rather LD could not get back his WR#1, so that our pawers can pick big point when the match involve LD and LCW. :D
yes, LD is so generous to us pawers as well.:):)

yes, LD is so generous to us pawers as well.:):)
yup, he is too generous. Last time I talked with a chinese player, we were talking about LD. She told me that if LD really eager to win the title, no one can block him, including the WR#1. She understands LD well as they are in the same team. :D So, the conclusion is that, LD is still the best player currently. :D

yup, he is too generous. Last time I talked with a chinese player, we were talking about LD. She told me that if LD really eager to win the title, no one can block him, including the WR#1. She understands LD well as they are in the same team. :D So, the conclusion is that, LD is still the best player currently. :D
personally i rather see ld not chasing WR 1 position and risk injury. Maybe he think he can regain #1 spot without playing every tourneys

personally i rather see ld not chasing WR 1 position and risk injury. Maybe he think he can regain #1 spot without playing every tourneys
yup. Sometimes, even he doesn't go for systematic training, he also can win a title. For your information, LD is a famous person in Beijing. He always has to attend function, dinner. I wonder how he could do that.

i'm waiting Pjswift comment about LIN DAN body language,,,,
jiakakakakakaakakakaka

Korea Training Stint......;)

Hi there,

What is this? Using the word "Pui" in this forum? Are you sure what you are writing?
Asking LCW to go home?(Of course after every competition players do go home) And may I ask, what is your world ranking that let you to make a comment like that? You should really consider making better sentences and better choice of word. I am not going to make further unpleasant comment but please respect players which you can't beat.

I also hope the moderators will look into this type of comment..

MCH

Good one, eferata...........

I m sure LD will feel shame if he know his fan(s) behaved like this....sad...:)

If he didn't withdraw from the Japan open then his excuse for losing in the rubber due to his knee problem would not hold water.

Did LCW told the press that he lost because of injury....? :confused:

personally i rather see ld not chasing WR 1 position and risk injury. Maybe he think he can regain #1 spot without playing every tourneys

... that's why i said LCW should give up at 11:7 if he did have a genuine or serious injury, if for minor ones or fatigue, of course he should try his best...

otherwise LCW's career would finish very soon due to injury... then people would not hail him as a hero, would not recall that he was finished by his "heroic" (or should I say stupid) insisting to play with injury in order to maintain the #1...

if the injury does affect, should affect him from the 1st set...

and people should also say that LD was affected by his lack of training, therefore their conditions should be level ... at least...

therefore no more excuse on the 11:0 run la... :D:D

Did LCW told the press that he lost because of injury....? :confused:

.. should be just said by his fans... :crying::crying::crying:

without seeing the game it is difficult to judge what happened to LCW in the rubber set. hope those who saw it in china would enlighten us here. PSH almost beat LD in the rubber while LCW just wimpout. (maybe LiMoa kept some secrets from LCW during his training in Korea)
The Star said LCW force a decider but his fightback proved to be an anticlimax when he ran out of steam.
Rashid Sidek said credit should be given to LCW for stealing a game from LD in China. (for me losing 2-0 or 2-1 is just the same. one should not be happy to steal a game. unfortunately that's the attitude of the malaysian coaches. they should learn from nicol david after her loss she came back better and stronger sweeping everyone off the squash floor).

yup. Sometimes, even he doesn't go for systematic training, he also can win a title. For your information, LD is a famous person in Beijing. He always has to attend function, dinner. I wonder how he could do that.
LCW is also a famous person in MAS la:D datuk some more..plus the 100 plus sponsorship deal worth $$$ and unicef ambasador some more:D:p
yup, he is too generous. Last time I talked with a chinese player, we were talking about LD. She told me that if LD really eager to win the title, no one can block him, including the WR#1. She understands LD well as they are in the same team. :D So, the conclusion is that, LD is still the best player currently. :D
yup, LD already grown up a lot since the og04 1st round defeat to ronald susilo from what i see.;) salute to him.

Did LCW told the press that he lost because of injury....? :confused:
nope. right until now, we still dunno the what's the problem of this loss..we need to wait and see.

without seeing the game it is difficult to judge what happened to LCW in the rubber set. hope those who saw it in china would enlighten us here. PSH almost beat LD in the rubber while LCW just wimpout. (maybe LiMoa kept some secrets from LCW during his training in Korea)
The Star said LCW force a decider but his fightback proved to be an anticlimax when he ran out of steam.
Rashid Sidek said credit should be given to LCW for stealing a game from LD in China. (for me losing 2-0 or 2-1 is just the same. one should not be happy to steal a game. unfortunately that's the attitude of the malaysian coaches. they should learn from nicol david after her loss she came back better and stronger sweeping everyone off the squash floor).
Agree with you that it's difficult to judge what happened in the rubber set without seeing the match. But it cannot be running out of steam because LCW is known for his fitness and stamina.
Rashid's comments is a optimist's view whereas Misbun tends to be pessimistic.(A player is better off with a coach who is optimistic.) It's important to note trends because that tells you whether you are making progress and on the right track.
But I wouldn't say LCW stole the G2.Well, he has a greater chance of winning G2 since he's (should be) fresher than LD. Because of his tough match with PSH, LD did not have the confidence to take LCW out in 2 games.(Same as when LD played Sony in WC.) Usually LD will gauge about midway in G2,(if he wins G1) whether he can finish it straight. If the going proves tough, he will conserve energy for G3 to finish confidently.
That's the privilege of taking G1.The player has a choice of 'resting' in G2 so he can play a strong G3. This strategy is used by CJ against CL , BP versus CJ and LD vs LCW. It indicates the perception of a strong opponent and lack of confidence in sustained stamina over the opponent.It's a risky but usually effective strategy.
However, I disagree with your comparison on Nicol David. As you may be aware, Nicol lost to a non-opponent recently in British Open? Guess the reason for the loss? The courts were changed from opaque to glass, apparently causing some disorientation in Nicol.
LCW has often bounced back from an unexpected loss to win the next tournament. Like losing in SO09 to win in IO09 with a 100% star-studded field.(FYI, LD has never been tested on that ability. When LD loses unexpectedly, LYB would pull him out of the next tournament because he believes LD does not have the confidence to win the next title so soon after a big loss.)
How can Nicol be compared to LCW? How competitive is squash? Nicol' s playing the same old opponents, tournament in, tournament out.
In badminton MS, every so often there are new stars that can upset top players. And it is getting to be an even more competitive event.

so will u be the one replacing him as mas wr1 number after this?;)
u sure u can beat lin dan?

Wah, wah, Abang George is angry. :p

I think Lee Chong Wei has techniques good enough to be no. 1, but his mentality isn't. Look what happened after he lost to SDK in World Champs. :D His body became cold, he cried, and he needed Misbun to comfort him! :D

yup, LD already grown up a lot since the og04 1st round defeat to ronald susilo from what i see.;) salute to him.

Agree totally with you. He can play in the net now. :) He usually couldn't. :o

If he didn't withdraw from the Japan open then his excuse for losing in the rubber due to his knee problem would not hold water.

Aha, understand now! If he still plays in Japan, then his reason of injury in China will be jeered. :p

Aha, understand now! If he still plays in Japan, then his reason of injury in China will be jeered. :p

Until now,...after that lost, LCW have never gave injury as a reason....so please dont create things up............:cool:

I know u adore LD, but please be fair to LCW......;)

Until now,...after that lost, LCW have never gave injury as a reason....so please dont create things up............:cool:

I know u adore LD, but please be fair to LCW......;)

No, I didn't start that, but someone did. I just replied to him/her. ;) I don't like LCW as a player but I think as a person he's all right. :p

Let's see what will happen in Japan. :D

[quote=justme_manda;1256099]Although the third set was disappointing. I do believe his knee injury has affected his performance and so he gave up fighting in the 3rd set as said by him during the post match interview.[\quote]



Just how things got started about the excuse of injury.

Although the third set was disappointing. I do believe his knee injury has affected his performance and so he gave up fighting in the 3rd set as said by him during the post match interview.

Who would want to give up and lost at 7 points in the third set, especially when he himself know is a very important game? The fact that LCW fought so hard for the first 2 sets proved that he too wants to win. Let's give him some credit and give him a break and hopefully he recovers from the pain that's affected him.


that's better, over deleted the quote .

Wah, wah, Abang George is angry. :p

I think Lee Chong Wei has techniques good enough to be no. 1, but his mentality isn't. Look what happened after he lost to SDK in World Champs. :D His body became cold, he cried, and he needed Misbun to comfort him! :D
never celebrate hari raya? where's my rendang chicken?:p

... that's why i said LCW should give up at 11:7 if he did have a genuine or serious injury, if for minor ones or fatigue, of course he should try his best...

otherwise LCW's career would finish very soon due to injury... then people would not hail him as a hero, would not recall that he was finished by his "heroic" (or should I say stupid) insisting to play with injury in order to maintain the #1...

if the injury does affect, should affect him from the 1st set...

.. :D:D

Well......the doctors already cleared LCW to go China Masters & Japan, despite Misbun's worry. Doctor say can go(& said so in the press), then no excuse cannot go, doc didnt give MC.;)

What badminton spectators think or not think should not be the concern of LCW, what the decision makers think is more important. If halfway give up, for sure LCW will be branded 'chicken' by the powers that be & media, etc,etc. All these has happened before, no need to think also know what they will say.

When LCW withdrew with injury reason also people criticise, continue to play also people criticise, so, it doesnt matter, will critise anyway.:D

that's life as a public figure .......:)

I only want to say:
No matter what kind of execuses the opponent and fans given, LD is the best player now... (we all know that)
we can trace back:
-how many times LD beat LCW? many, right? ( no matter LCW or LD in a good performance or not, but i'm sure mostly that time they were fit, without injury)
-and how many times LCW beat LD? only once, right? (Thomas cup, CMIIW)

SO,, for this game, again I would like to say:
Congrats for LD.. and train harder for all other players..
cheers..;)

I only want to say:
No matter what kind of execuses the opponent and fans given, LD is the best player now... (we all know that)
we can trace back:
-how many times LD beat LCW? many, right? ( no matter LCW or LD in a good performance or not, but i'm sure mostly that time they were fit, without injury)
-and how many times LCW beat LD? only once, right? (Thomas cup, CMIIW)

SO,, for this game, again I would like to say:
Congrats for LD.. and train harder for all other players..
cheers..;)

nunu27,....as you say ' we all know that'....why still say....:D

nunu27,....as you say ' we all know that'....why still say....:D

i didnt say that, only typed..wkwkwkwkwk..:D:D:D:D
just to confirm that all know that LD better than LCW, since many of LCW fans do not accept that LCW loose to LD.., that's all...:rolleyes::rolleyes:

i didnt say that, only typed..wkwkwkwkwk..:D:D:D:D
just to confirm that all know that LD better than LCW, since many of LCW fans do not accept that LCW loose to LD.., that's all...:rolleyes::rolleyes:

know and accept is different thingy:p

i didnt say that, only typed..wkwkwkwkwk..:D:D:D:D
just to confirm that all know that LD better than LCW, since many of LCW fans do not accept that LCW loose to LD.., that's all...:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Just like LD fans, eventhough every one know WR1 is LCW due to no. of participation in international tourney, but they seems cant accept that LCW is WR1....:D:D

Yes, i know LD is better than LCW and i accepted that, but i still support LCW every time he plays LD, even he kept losing to LD..........:D:D

Just like LD fans, eventhough every one know WR1 is LCW due to no. of participation in international tourney, but they seems cant accept that LCW is WR1....:D:D

Yes, i know LD is better than LCW and i accepted that, but i still support LCW every time he plays LD, even he kept losing to LD..........:D:D


Me too. Everyone has their own favorite player and this will keep changing as players come and go. For me, it was YY, then ZJH, then PG and the list continues. We may not necessarily support the best player in the world. I also support RS, for he is the only player to beat LD in the Olympics.

This is good analysis.

Agree with you that it's difficult to judge what happened in the rubber set without seeing the match. But it cannot be running out of steam because LCW is known for his fitness and stamina.
Rashid's comments is a optimist's view whereas Misbun tends to be pessimistic.(A player is better off with a coach who is optimistic.) It's important to note trends because that tells you whether you are making progress and on the right track.
But I wouldn't say LCW stole the G2.Well, he has a greater chance of winning G2 since he's (should be) fresher than LD. Because of his tough match with PSH, LD did not have the confidence to take LCW out in 2 games.(Same as when LD played Sony in WC.) Usually LD will gauge about midway in G2,(if he wins G1) whether he can finish it straight. If the going proves tough, he will conserve energy for G3 to finish confidently.
That's the privilege of taking G1.The player has a choice of 'resting' in G2 so he can play a strong G3. This strategy is used by CJ against CL , BP versus CJ and LD vs LCW. It indicates the perception of a strong opponent and lack of confidence in sustained stamina over the opponent.It's a risky but usually effective strategy.
However, I disagree with your comparison on Nicol David. As you may be aware, Nicol lost to a non-opponent recently in British Open? Guess the reason for the loss? The courts were changed from opaque to glass, apparently causing some disorientation in Nicol.
LCW has often bounced back from an unexpected loss to win the next tournament. Like losing in SO09 to win in IO09 with a 100% star-studded field.(FYI, LD has never been tested on that ability. When LD loses unexpectedly, LYB would pull him out of the next tournament because he believes LD does not have the confidence to win the next title so soon after a big loss.)
How can Nicol be compared to LCW? How competitive is squash? Nicol' s playing the same old opponents, tournament in, tournament out.
In badminton MS, every so often there are new stars that can upset top players. And it is getting to be an even more competitive event.

Haha. I made that prediction before I watch the LCW - DPY match. I had thought LCW toyed DPY, just like LD toyed HYH. But I was wrong. DPY really forced LCW to press his turbo button. LCW looked tired during the latter half of the 2nd game.

So yes, I should stick to my 55:45 prediction... :D

- With today's result, you should've stuck to your original version of LD 55:45 LCW..:cool:
- You most likely overestimated PSH's rubber game effort and underestimated LD's effort in their match..
- I think the better term is "bias" fans (yes, it goes across the board to any players)..no??..:confused::eek:
- What i meant by "LCW has always had a 50-50 chance vs. LD" is, since i view LD and LCW as the current 2 top MS players, and considering there is only 1 winner and 1 loser in a match, i tend to view their matches as a 50-50 battle.
Unfortunately, in this yr's China Masters SF match, LCW failed to live up to his expectation in the 3rd game as he wilted away in almost a similar fashion as Taufik did in the 2006 Japan Open MS Final.

It's good P-Man was able to secure a Finals appearance to prevent a clean all-Chinese Finals. However, imo, i'm afraid the buck stops here and his chances of preventing a sea of red all across the board are slim and none.:p

Why should anyone "let" his opponent to "get back" from 15:20 to 20:20 in a 3rd game? :confused: Will you do that?

LD "let" PSH to get back 1 or 2 or even 3 points, maybe. But at 17:20 or 18:20, I don't think LD would stay "relaxed" anymore. It's PSH's effort, not LD's generosity, that earned him the chance to deuce.

PSH already looked very tired in the middle of the 3rd game. So getting back from 15:20 to 20:20 should have already exhausted him. That's why LD took the last few points "brilliantly".

Haha, LD actually had a 20-15 lead in the 3rd in that match, but let PSH get it all back. But I was impressed by how once it got to 20-20 he was able to suddenly re-focus and played the last several points brilliantly.

I just watched Thestar.online videocast? of the LCW vs LD match. Well,I was wrong. LCW wasn't injured at all. LCW said he probably used up too much energy in G2 while LD was 'resting' so he couldn't recover fast enough to keep up with LD in G3.
Good lesson for LCW. Be smart like Sony. It's not the G2 scoreline that counts. It's how much energy it costs to win that counts.Sony (in WC) knew LD was giving up G2 and played to win G2, expending just enough energy so that he will still have decent energy to challenge in G3.
LD said he was fortunate to clinch G3.(Actually,there were CHN indications that LD was not expected to win because PSH gave him hard labour overtime the day before. Perhaps DPY did his job for LD as well by not giving LCW an easy time.) LCW's interview attitude was like he could drop a bombshell on BAM if his bosses continue to put pressure on him. Finally he may just tell them to find a replacement if they are not happy with him.
Where LD's interview was humble, CJ was arrogant. He said BP's netplay was lucky whereas his luck was bad, implying he's still superior to BP.

any1 hav the video? or the link to watch this match?

any1 hav the video? or the link to watch this match?
Go to www.thestar.com.my (http://www.thestar.com.my) and watch the videoclip. Just some snippets of the match.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZZF-GofmlU

personally, i dont buy the idea that professional players have problems to last a 3 games match, no matter how hard that was. that's for they are trained for!

personally, i dont buy the idea that professional players have problems to last a 3 games match, no matter how hard that was. that's for they are trained for!
yes, it would have been pretty hard if one have an injury in him/herself;)

so, if you're injured then you should not be playing at all. its not like a once every 4 year olympics final, is it?

so, if you're injured then you not should be playing at all. its not like a once every 4 year olympics final, is it?
add another not to it right?;)

LCW has no more chance to win LD anymore.

every time he lost, he would give his stupid reason..why LD not facing this kind of problems?

personally, i dont buy the idea that professional players have problems to last a 3 games match, no matter how hard that was. that's for they are trained for!
It's not about being able to last 3 games. It's about winning a marathon match. When opponents are both similarly strong, the win is determined significantly by the energy strategy. Whoever is fresher in G3 has the advantage to emerge the victor.

If you analyse CHN MS and WS matches, whenever they face a strong opponent,they are likely to use some 40% of the energy for G1 to have the upper hand in closing it. (In one or two LL matches, it seemed she expended some 50% of the energy with super speed in G1, as in her OG match vs WMC. This also has the psychological effect of scaring the opponent into thinking she's top form when obviously that kind of speed cannot be maintained for 2 games at a stretch.) Once they win G1, they have the luxury to suss out whether it's possible to win G2 or if not, conserve energy to play strong and win in G3. The opponent will have to play catch up and use maybe 40% or 50% of their energy to win G2 at all costs. By G3, their opponent will require some time to recover during which the CHN MS will have the winning advantage in terms of power,speed and mental alertness.

Another strategy was seen in the infamous KO08 MSF between LD and LHI. LHI knew he was no match for LD in stamina and that his tank limit would last under an hour or so. With a 99% chance LD would take G1 ,LHI was unlikely to have the opportunity to 'rest' for G2. So LHI opted to throw away G1 in a hurry, wasting minimal energy and focussed on battling it out for the next two games so that effectively he was playing only 2 games to win.This is high risk but worth it. A strategy for WCH to explore when facing certain opponents after a marathon match the day before and sure to lose otherwise.

Energy strategy is crucial when facing decent opponents with stamina or match preparation advantage.

Officially it's LD 13:6 LCW I think.

I only want to say:
No matter what kind of execuses the opponent and fans given, LD is the best player now... (we all know that)
we can trace back:
-how many times LD beat LCW? many, right? ( no matter LCW or LD in a good performance or not, but i'm sure mostly that time they were fit, without injury)
-and how many times LCW beat LD? only once, right? (Thomas cup, CMIIW)

SO,, for this game, again I would like to say:
Congrats for LD.. and train harder for all other players..
cheers..;)

Stamina is the problem. I agree. As Sony said, the biggest problem when playing against LD is that LD is always full of energy.

Furthermore, LD's possession of exceptional explosiveness enable him to beat lesser players much more easily than other players. As a consequence, he usually spent less energy (than, say, LCW or Sony or PG or CJ) in earlier rounds.

Such a problem basically has no solution. Sony, however smart he may be, still ran out of steam middle of G3 in WC semifinal.

I just watched Thestar.online videocast? of the LCW vs LD match. Well,I was wrong. LCW wasn't injured at all. LCW said he probably used up too much energy in G2 while LD was 'resting' so he couldn't recover fast enough to keep up with LD in G3.
Good lesson for LCW. Be smart like Sony. It's not the G2 scoreline that counts. It's how much energy it costs to win that counts.Sony (in WC) knew LD was giving up G2 and played to win G2, expending just enough energy so that he will still have decent energy to challenge in G3.
LD said he was fortunate to clinch G3.(Actually,there were CHN indications that LD was not expected to win because PSH gave him hard labour overtime the day before. Perhaps DPY did his job for LD as well by not giving LCW an easy time.) LCW's interview attitude was like he could drop a bombshell on BAM if his bosses continue to put pressure on him. Finally he may just tell them to find a replacement if they are not happy with him.
Where LD's interview was humble, CJ was arrogant. He said BP's netplay was lucky whereas his luck was bad, implying he's still superior to BP.

Exactly. It's not "can you last 3 games", but "can you still be faster than your opponent in game 3".

I bet if LCW play any of us, he can last at least 10 or 20 games. :D

It's not about being able to last 3 games. It's about winning a marathon match. When opponents are both similarly strong, the win is determined significantly by the energy strategy. Whoever is fresher in G3 has the advantage to emerge the victor.

If you analyse CHN MS and WS matches, whenever they face a strong opponent,they are likely to use some 40% of the energy for G1 to have the upper hand in closing it. (In one or two LL matches, it seemed she expended some 50% of the energy with super speed in G1, as in her OG match vs WMC. This also has the psychological effect of scaring the opponent into thinking she's top form when obviously that kind of speed cannot be maintained for 2 games at a stretch.) Once they win G1, they have the luxury to suss out whether it's possible to win G2 or if not, conserve energy to play strong and win in G3. The opponent will have to play catch up and use maybe 40% or 50% of their energy to win G2 at all costs. By G3, their opponent will require some time to recover during which the CHN MS will have the winning advantage in terms of power,speed and mental alertness.

Another strategy was seen in the infamous KO08 MSF between LD and LHI. LHI knew he was no match for LD in stamina and that his tank limit would last under an hour or so. With a 99% chance LD would take G1 ,LHI was unlikely to have the opportunity to 'rest' for G2. So LHI opted to throw away G1 in a hurry, wasting minimal energy and focussed on battling it out for the next two games so that effectively he was playing only 2 games to win.This is high risk but worth it. A strategy for WCH to explore when facing certain opponents after a marathon match the day before and sure to lose otherwise.

Energy strategy is crucial when facing decent opponents with stamina or match preparation advantage.

Stamina is the problem. I agree. As Sony said, the biggest problem when playing against LD is that LD is always full of energy.

Furthermore, LD's possession of exceptional explosiveness enable him to beat lesser players much more easily than other players. As a consequence, he usually spent less energy (than, say, LCW or Sony or PG or CJ) in earlier rounds.

Such a problem basically has no solution. Sony, however smart he may be, still ran out of steam middle of G3 in WC semifinal.

Seems like most people are confused between the terms "stamina" and "endurance".

Stamina is not the problem, endurance is the real problem.

According to Merriam-Webster online,

stamina: staying power, endurance.

Seems like most people are confused between the terms "stamina" and "endurance".

Stamina is not the problem, endurance is the real problem.

yup. Sometimes, even he doesn't go for systematic training, he also can win a title. For your information, LD is a famous person in Beijing. He always has to attend function, dinner. I wonder how he could do that.
i hope he wouldn't get too fat. I'd ask for wwallow nest or sharkfin soups only:p

without seeing the game it is difficult to judge what happened to LCW in the rubber set. hope those who saw it in china would enlighten us here. PSH almost beat LD in the rubber while LCW just wimpout. (maybe LiMoa kept some secrets from LCW during his training in Korea)
The Star said LCW force a decider but his fightback proved to be an anticlimax when he ran out of steam.
Rashid Sidek said credit should be given to LCW for stealing a game from LD in China. (for me losing 2-0 or 2-1 is just the same. one should not be happy to steal a game. unfortunately that's the attitude of the malaysian coaches. they should learn from nicol david after her loss she came back better and stronger sweeping everyone off the squash floor).before claiming credit for 'stealing' a game from LD, one should hear both side of a story. Did someone from MAS asked whether LD's generousity contributed to this 'theft'? Just look at the 3rd set when LD decided not to be so generous.

According to Merriam-Webster online,

stamina: staying power, endurance.

I guess there are some differences between these two words. Stamina is the ability to do something for a long time, while endurance means suffering from some pain or hardship

I guess what bananakid meant was: they have the physical strength to play long time, but they cannot survive from the hardship, and collapse due to the pressure of brutal competition.

I just watched Thestar.online videocast? of the LCW vs LD match. Well,I was wrong. LCW wasn't injured at all. LCW said he probably used up too much energy in G2 while LD was 'resting' so he couldn't recover fast enough to keep up with LD in G3.
Good lesson for LCW. Be smart like Sony. It's not the G2 scoreline that counts. It's how much energy it costs to win that counts.Sony (in WC) knew LD was giving up G2 and played to win G2, expending just enough energy so that he will still have decent energy to challenge in G3.
LD said he was fortunate to clinch G3.(Actually,there were CHN indications that LD was not expected to win because PSH gave him hard labour overtime the day before. Perhaps DPY did his job for LD as well by not giving LCW an easy time.) LCW's interview attitude was like he could drop a bombshell on BAM if his bosses continue to put pressure on him. Finally he may just tell them to find a replacement if they are not happy with him.
Where LD's interview was humble, CJ was arrogant. He said BP's netplay was lucky whereas his luck was bad, implying he's still superior to BP.sound so simply but funny how experienced pro like lcw, and experienced coaches like mishun and rashid only now learning how to play MS, lol.

We all. including u, know that lcw has the stamina and fitness to play 3 sets. Why now u say 3 set benefited LD?

If a lowly player like DPY can give lcw such a hard time, isn't this a sign of poor self confidence by the WR #1 player? So, PSH did his job too by tiring out LD????? LM is such a traitor lol. Be forewarned that there are lot of chinese rookies that play like DPY. Live with it or perish.

Lee Chong Wei needs to be more selective on tournaments participation as he has participated twice more than Lin Dan thus far in 2009(12 vs 6), according to Star Sports newspaper.(Now it's clear why he is the world number 1, quantity does make different) It is important to have systematic training and I actually like to see Chong Wei concentrate on All England than the Korea Open next year.
I am sure Chong Wei is in the confusion state, less tournaments may cost him the world ranking hence the allowances from BAM. Although I like Chong Wei to think about his legacy now and concentrate on winning the big titles but I am also a realist, financial stability is important for player and there's no guarantee participating less tournaments will bring more success either ... Whatever decision he makes, I wish him the best.

Seems like most people are confused between the terms "stamina" and "endurance".

Stamina is not the problem, endurance is the real problem.
So what's the difference between stamina and endurance, Wise One?

sound so simply but funny how experienced pro like lcw, and experienced coaches like mishun and rashid only now learning how to play MS, lol.

We all. including u, know that lcw has the stamina and fitness to play 3 sets. Why now u say 3 set benefited LD?

If a lowly player like DPY can give lcw such a hard time, isn't this a sign of poor self confidence by the WR #1 player? So, PSH did his job too by tiring out LD????? LM is such a traitor lol. Be forewarned that there are lot of chinese rookies that play like DPY. Live with it or perish.
I'm so flattered by your interest in my posts but it will be better if your comprehension is more regular. Or is my English so irregular your comprehension becomes irregular?

'Lowly' player like DPY would have been rote trained to give LCW a hard time. All CHN MS rookies have been so rote trained to take out LCW they can lose to other 'lowly' players they have no preparations for.
Problem is LCW likes to play his A game which is too predictable. Like ,after a is b, after b is c.etc. What LCW could try is to play a B game like, after a is c , after c is g, etc, with some discomfort to himself. This unpredictability will then shock CHN MS rookies so much they will panic because it's outside the normal LCW syllabus which they have not studied for and don't know the answers, so how to pass? Once the mental block is set up, LCW will take less effort to dismiss them. Probably rather unorthodox to try out.

Lee Chong Wei needs to be more selective on tournaments participation as he has participated twice more than Lin Dan thus far in 2009(12 vs 6), according to Star Sports newspaper.(Now it's clear why he is the world number 1, quantity does make different) It is important to have systematic training and I actually like to see Chong Wei concentrate on All England than the Korea Open next year.
I am sure Chong Wei is in the confusion state, less tournaments may cost him the world ranking hence the allowances from BAM. Although I like Chong Wei to think about his legacy now and concentrate on winning the big titles but I am also a realist, financial stability is important for player and there's no guarantee participating less tournaments will bring more success either ... Whatever decision he makes, I wish him the best.
I do have a similar theory/suggestion for LCW.
Yes, he needs to be play less tournaments and more selective as which ones to go for. I would suggest that he go to all tournaments that LD entered and may be a couple more elsewhere as LD is playing so little since Olympics last year. As LD will only play selected major tournaments, even as its stand LCW won may be 1 out of the 3 they played he will ended up with 1 or 2 majors a year if he keep up with the win/lose ratio. If worst comes the worst he still has the other 2 to fall back on. I do believe that if LCW keep meeting LD all the time he will improve his win ratio, especially for the majors. Let’s hope so.

LD actually plays All England + "tournaments in China/HK" (China Open, China Masters, HK Open)+ a few others (Swiss 09 and Indonesia 09 so far). It's worth mentioning that LD didn't do as well in this last category of tournaments.

I would suggest LCW do the similar: All England + "tournaments in south east asia" (Singapore, Indonesia, Malaysia) + a few others (select from Korea Open, Japan Open, Swiss Open, HongKong Open, China Open).

I do have a similar theory/suggestion for LCW.
Yes, he needs to be play less tournaments and more selective as which ones to go for. I would suggest that he go to all tournaments that LD entered and may be a couple more elsewhere as LD is playing so little since Olympics last year. As LD will only play selected major tournaments, even as its stand LCW won may be 1 out of the 3 they played he will ended up with 1 or 2 majors a year if he keep up with the win/lose ratio. If worst comes the worst he still has the other 2 to fall back on. I do believe that if LCW keep meeting LD all the time he will improve his win ratio, especially for the majors. Let’s hope so.

I'm so flattered by your interest in my posts but it will be better if your comprehension is more regular. Or is my English so irregular your comprehension becomes irregular?

'Lowly' player like DPY would have been rote trained to give LCW a hard time. All CHN MS rookies have been so rote trained to take out LCW they can lose to other 'lowly' players they have no preparations for.
Problem is LCW likes to play his A game which is too predictable. Like ,after a is b, after b is c.etc. What LCW could try is to play a B game like, after a is c , after c is g, etc, with some discomfort to himself. This unpredictability will then shock CHN MS rookies so much they will panic because it's outside the normal LCW syllabus which they have not studied for and don't know the answers, so how to pass? Once the mental block is set up, LCW will take less effort to dismiss them. Probably rather unorthodox to try out.lol, because your posts are so entertaining they border silliness and senselessness, like reading comics or watching brainless saturday morning cartoons.

Yes, it was me who actually said it first that chinese rookies have TH and lcw on their training menu. They have dart board with TH and lcw faces on it and voodoo dolls as well, LOL.

Now lets turn the table around, it's by same logic that all current and ex top tens MS have LD on their training programs as well. These aren't rookies but pros with titles like PG, SDK, BP, PSH, CJ, lcw, LHI, TH, etc... How come LD can overcome these strong and diverse oppponents? Expression of sympathy for lcw's difficulty running into chinese rookies is plain lame. LCW is WR #1 for godsake. lol

Since u had illustrated to us in so many occasions how lcw could beat LD, u should seek for a technical advisory role in the BAM organization. I think it would be good for gender equality as well because there are too many male ego up there and a woman touch would do wonder:D I will support u in your pursuit if u need it. :)

lol, because your posts are so entertaining they border silliness and senselessness, like reading comics or watching brainless saturday morning cartoons.

Yes, it was me who actually said it first that chinese rookies have TH and lcw on their training menu. They have dart board with TH and lcw faces on it and voodoo dolls as well, LOL.

Now lets turn the table around, it's by same logic that all current and ex top tens MS have LD on their training programs as well. These aren't rookies but pros with titles like PG, SDK, BP, PSH, CJ, lcw, LHI, TH, etc... How come LD can overcome these strong and diverse oppponents? Expression of sympathy for lcw's difficulty running into chinese rookies is plain lame. LCW is WR #1 for godsake. lol

Since u had illustrated to us in so many occasions how lcw could beat LD, u should seek for a technical advisory role in the BAM organization. I think it would be good for gender equality as well because there are too many male ego up there and a woman touch would do wonder:D I will support u in your pursuit if u need it. :)

Hahaha I'd support her in that pursuit also.

lol, because your posts are so entertaining they border silliness and senselessness, like reading comics or watching brainless saturday morning cartoons.

Yes, it was me who actually said it first that chinese rookies have TH and lcw on their training menu. They have dart board with TH and lcw faces on it and voodoo dolls as well, LOL.

Now lets turn the table around, it's by same logic that all current and ex top tens MS have LD on their training programs as well. These aren't rookies but pros with titles like PG, SDK, BP, PSH, CJ, lcw, LHI, TH, etc... How come LD can overcome these strong and diverse oppponents? Expression of sympathy for lcw's difficulty running into chinese rookies is plain lame. LCW is WR #1 for godsake. lol

Since u had illustrated to us in so many occasions how lcw could beat LD, u should seek for a technical advisory role in the BAM organization. I think it would be good for gender equality as well because there are too many male ego up there and a woman touch would do wonder:D I will support u in your pursuit if u need it. :)

Good points there. Now I am waiting to see what pjswift is going to say, she is one of the reason I find BC the most entertaining forum to visit. :D

Good points there. Now I am waiting to see what pjswift is going to say, she is one of the reason I find BC the most entertaining forum to visit. :Dshhh, she's sleeping now:)

Good points there. Now I am waiting to see what pjswift is going to say, she is one of the reason I find BC the most entertaining forum to visit. :D

The truth being spoken here.:cool:

Members with the most entertaining posts: (not in any particular order)

pjswift: She is consistent with her entertaining "thought" pattern, agree or disagree, always a post worth reading purely on entertainment value.(mainly how she contradicts herself over and over again)

X Ball: His posts are always funny due to the fact that he enjoys biting himself in the rear-end with mindless match result prediction.

George@chongwei: I find it amusing how someone can consistently use "I agree" or similar sentence in most of his posts to collect a total post count up to 17,000+

The WARS between Cooler and Hauge: What can I say... as soon as the Taufik is typed out from Cooler's keyboard, the war will soon begin. LOL

Plenty more, but too lazy to write an essay on it.:p

and suddenly, banana boy/kid(?) is out:D
lol..all of a sudden.

do u think i can consistently use the word 'i agree' with your post?;) think again.

uhm.. you just used it again. Even if you don't mean it...

Just an observation

sooner or later
this thread will be hotter
avoid any war please^^
i dont want to see any more locked thread when i login
and for bananakid
i think u do miss bc for some time,george almost hit 19k already^^

sooner or later
this thread will be hotter
avoid any war please^^
i dont want to see any more locked thread when i login
and for bananakid
i think u do miss bc for some time,george almost hit 19k already^^


who is the highest? Is there any kenduri when george hits 20,000?

i think u do miss bc for some time,george almost hit 19k already^^

Kuwn and Cooler needs to work harder to retain their #1 and #2 spot. :D

who is the highest? Is there any kenduri when george hits 20,000?

kwun and cooler:p
maybe i can ask him to treat me sushi king when he hit 20000
after al,we are in the same area:p

Kuwn and Cooler needs to work harder to retain their #1 and #2 spot. :D

ya,i do think so^^

[quote=limsy;1259579]kwun and cooler:p
maybe i can ask him to treat me sushi king when he hit 20000
after al,we are in the same area:p

How about you? You are reaching 10,000. Satay treat?

[quote=limsy;1259579]kwun and cooler:p
maybe i can ask him to treat me sushi king when he hit 20000
after al,we are in the same area:p

How about you? You are reaching 10,000. Satay treat?

nah,i wont reach 10k so fast
i think in november:p
that time i in hometown lar
kelantan:p
not kajang:cool:

...george almost hit 19k already^^
..and that's if we don't count all of his posts in the Lounge/Chit-Chat section..:cool:
who is the highest? Is there any kenduri when george hits 20,000?
kwun and cooler:p
maybe i can ask him to treat me sushi king when he hit 20000
after al,we are in the same area:p
...
..kwun and cooler must be thinking in their mind: if only i was as young and energetic as our george@chongwei...;)
George's milestone of 20,000 posts will be celebrated most likely next yr during the T&U Cups in KL..;)

..and that's if we don't count all of his posts in the Lounge/Chit-Chat section..:cool:
..kwun and cooler must be thinking in their mind: if only i was as young and energetic as our george@chongwei...;)
George's milestone of 20,000 posts will be celebrated most likely next yr during the T&U Cups in KL..;)

agreed
anyway,i think george will celebrate his 20k post in mo10 lar:p
we can do party for him:p
and in t/u cups,i think george will hit 22k atleast:cool:

whoah, i got so many compliments already ya?:D
after this, i will stop for a while. surely a good news for kwun and cooler ya?;)

[quote=nokh88;1259618]

nah,i wont reach 10k so fast
i think in november:p
that time i in hometown lar
kelantan:p
not kajang:cool:

Ask you for treat, lari jauh jauh:D

whoah, i got so many compliments already ya?:D
after this, i will stop for a while. surely a good news for kwun and cooler ya?;)

why stop?reason?sms me man:p



Ask you for treat, lari jauh jauh:D

cheh,that time i sem break
sure free mah
sure many post
sure balik kampung lah:mad::p:D

wah, this thread is turning out to be so entertaining. Nice for a change.

But I'm still in the dark about the difference between stamina and endurance. Bananaboy, how about enlightening on that?

After I watched the 3rd match between them, I figure out that after Li dan won the game and shake hand with LCW, Li dan is trying to said something to LCW, but LCW is ignore it. LCW is disappointed with his own defect, thus may not want to talk to him...
and after Japan open lost again in 3rd round.. I think LCW need to take a rest. If not, LCW confidence level will continue drop...

Wah, how come now the discussion change to about post count? LOL.
Oh yes, Cooler reaching 20,000, need to 'treat' us during TC/Uber 2010.:p
George also need to belanja satay kajang.:D

This LD vs LCW thing will continue until one or both of them retire

Agreed with u. However, personally I think Li dan still the best compare with LCW.
Even I dont like Li dan...

Cheers,

This LD vs LCW thing will continue until one or both of them retireare u sure? look like we need a thread on ' LCW -Going Downhill?' :D

it baffles me how a WR #1 lose to simon santoso, a player which lcw almost whitewashed him last time they met. 21-5, that is almost like a shutout.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IslajYwWy10

are u sure? look like we need a thread on ' LCW -Going Downhill?' :D

it baffles me how a WR #1 lose to simon santoso, a player which lcw almost whitewashed him last time they met. 21-5, that is almost like a shutout.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IslajYwWy10

I was not surprised at all, with the injured knee & all (the same would have been said if LD/Chen Jin were playing injured & lost).

You all dont consider LCW to be much of a player anyway, his WR#1 ranking is only used to mock LCW, so dont pretend2 to be surprised. ;)

I was not surprised at all, with the injured knee & all (the same would have been said if LD/Chen Jin were playing injured & lost).

You all dont consider LCW to be much of a player anyway, his WR#1 ranking is only used to mock LCW, so dont pretend2 to be surprised. ;)
*cough* but according to our inhouse expert game analyst pjswift, lcw isn't injured at all, lcw just mis-managed his energy expenditure logistic.

I just watched Thestar.online videocast? of the LCW vs LD match. Well,I was wrong. LCW wasn't injured at all. LCW said he probably used up too much energy in G2 while LD was 'resting' so he couldn't recover fast enough to keep up with LD in G3.
Good lesson for LCW. Be smart like Sony. It's not the G2 scoreline that counts. It's how much energy it costs to win that counts.Sony (in WC) knew LD was giving up G2 and played to win G2, expending just enough energy so that he will still have decent energy to challenge in G3.
LD said he was fortunate to clinch G3.(Actually,there were CHN indications that LD was not expected to win because PSH gave him hard labour overtime the day before. Perhaps DPY did his job for LD as well by not giving LCW an easy time.) LCW's interview attitude was like he could drop a bombshell on BAM if his bosses continue to put pressure on him. Finally he may just tell them to find a replacement if they are not happy with him.
Where LD's interview was humble, CJ was arrogant. He said BP's netplay was lucky whereas his luck was bad, implying he's still superior to BP.http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1257447&postcount=195

i do consider lcw a formidable player, if not #1 but surely #2. Even with that and how he spanked simon on their last meet in SG, lcw losing to simon in 2 set is quite a surprise to me. If i had the vison like pjswift, i would definitely pawed simon over lcw for some big points:)


***** (5 stars) Rating: Very High Entertainment Value i must say:)

cooler, u need to cooled down a bit:D
come on, wanna have some tea over here?:p

saw the video bet LCW and LD. LCW didn't appeared to be out of steam but rather out of ideas. Imagine 5 straight points out of court after changing side at 7-11 followed by one into the net, then misjudgment on LD shot that went in. after that hitting out again.
LCW looked slimmer (maybe his new haircut)or weight loss due to breakup with WMC?.
Turning away when someone talking to you is just plain rude.

Wah, how come now the discussion change to about post count? LOL.
Oh yes, Cooler reaching 20,000, need to 'treat' us during TC/Uber 2010.:p
George also need to belanja satay kajang.:D

This LD vs LCW thing will continue until one or both of them retire

i am waiting cooler for next year
dont hide urself:p

are u sure? look like we need a thread on ' LCW -Going Downhill?' :D


dont look around
go create urself:p

*cough* but according to our inhouse expert game analyst pjswift, lcw isn't injured at all, lcw just mis-managed his energy expenditure logistic.

http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1257447&postcount=195

i do consider lcw a formidable player, if not #1 but surely #2. Even with that and how he spanked simon on their last meet in SG, lcw losing to simon in 2 set is quite a surprise to me. If i had the vison like pjswift, i would definitely pawed simon over lcw for some big points:)


***** (5 stars) Rating: Very High Entertainment Value i must say:)
LCW said he could not keep pace with LD in G3 and he did not say anything about his taped knee, so gotta take his word for it. Well, it must be high intensity match because LD was all taped up for the MSF facing BP. How often do you see LD patching up his biceps and legs after a match? Not since AE2006? MSF after his MSSF with LCW (again)? It was quite a revealing sight.

Did LCW lose to SS in 2 sets? What's wrong with your vision? Go have an overdue eye-check.

But don't you think it's great LCW lost to SS? It means SS finally has some imagination and confidence in his game. I'm delighted LCW's loss will boost SS' confidence and self-belief. It is always great to see good players playing their best. It's fantastic for the sport of badminton, don't you think so?

You don't have to have a vision like me to win big PAWing LCW's opponents. LCW is WR1. Just use common sense.Continue to PAW against LCW. He is in the condition to lose. Now's the best opportunity to win big on PAW.Fortune favours the brave.

saw the video bet LCW and LD. LCW didn't appeared to be out of steam but rather out of ideas. Imagine 5 straight points out of court after changing side at 7-11 followed by one into the net, then misjudgment on LD shot that went in. after that hitting out again.
LCW looked slimmer (maybe his new haircut)or weight loss due to breakup with WMC?.
Turning away when someone talking to you is just plain rude.
Yes, LCW was rude.(Maybe he thought CHN would be a good place to try out new manners, especially after a romantic fallout.)
What adjective would you use to describe LD's reaction after his loss to LCW in MO06?

saw the video bet LCW and LD. LCW didn't appeared to be out of steam but rather out of ideas. ....

That's what I think preventing LCW to get near LD... Sports Quotient...

A player could enhance technique and physical strength by hard training (which LCW did always), but if you want to be the very best, SQ is the vital thing and make the difference between the good and the very best. Yet unfortunately SQ is half born and half trainned... and partly linked with the mental things...

So LCW already tried his best, his best is still second to LD, no shame, why people cann't just admit it...

So no need to blindly focus on trying to match LD (like what he did with LM prior to WC but then lost to Sony)... i.e. his target should not be on matching LD, but to keep improving himself...