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Stalker
10-30-2002, 07:17 AM
I'm looking for a Yonex or Carlton singles racquet with a price tag not more than US$70. Can anyone recommend me to these and give reviews?

NVIDIA256
10-30-2002, 08:20 AM
for $70 you can get Carlton's As-ti(top of the line), great racket with lot's of power.

Also I recommend you check out Victor and Yonex ISO 800 is a good racket

zero
10-30-2002, 10:22 PM
Originally posted by NVIDIA256
for $70 you can get Carlton's As-ti(top of the line), great racket with lot's of power.

Also I recommend you check out Victor and Yonex ISO 800 is a good racket

WHERE?....
Plz backup your replies since most of us are curious..

Stalker
10-31-2002, 03:34 AM
Isn't the Carlton ASti SuperLite their top of the line racquet? its worth 134US$ her in the Phils...

NVIDIA256
10-31-2002, 04:26 AM
Isn't the Carlton ASti SuperLite their top of the line racquet

No the AS-Ti is. Funny cause I was looking at all the UK online stores and they are asking $139uk for the AS-T1 and 129 for the superlite or was that the Flex Ti. That's over $250 dollars CAN. SO what I am saying is prices seems to be different according to region.

NVIDIA256
10-31-2002, 04:29 AM
WHERE?....

Huh? do you mean where can you buy them?

Byro-Nenium
10-31-2002, 06:59 AM
I'm not sure about that carlton racket, but i suggest that u don't go for the Iso 800. Why? not saying that its a bad racket, i heard its probably 1 of the best, but its now discontinued and should you like your Iso 800 and break it, its, difficult to find a replacement...

Stalker
10-31-2002, 07:04 AM
ASTi is the top of the line Carlton racquet? Can anyone else confirm this? Any other suggestions for a good singles racquet?

NVIDIA256
10-31-2002, 08:04 AM
but its now discontinued and should you like your Iso 800 and break it, its, difficult to find a replacement

Agreed! I see so many people flocking to buy old rackets, trying to re-live the old dream and I tell them that they are better off with the new rackets, cause once they break that old racket, say bye, bye. If and when you find a racket that is perfect for you, make sure you buy like 4-6 pairs(depending on the player) that way you will always have that racket.


ASTi is the top of the line Carlton racquet

Yeah, LOL! You want conformation go here www.Carltonsports.com

Here is how it is in order

AS-Ti
AS-1 or Mega Flex-ti
the rest is up to U

Stalker
10-31-2002, 08:23 AM
Can anyone give me the average price of the ASTi? What other Carlton and Yonex racquets can you recommend for singles play? (please don't forget to give the prices)

bigredlemon
10-31-2002, 09:17 AM
if you really like the new racquet and break it a few years from now... u cant replace it either. Unless you are stringing it at 26 lb, there's a high chance it won't break for a couple of years anyway.

note that i am not speaking form experience. it is from what i've seen in this foum.

NVIDIA256
10-31-2002, 06:52 PM
Can anyone give me the average price of the ASTi?

About $140-155 CAN

Also another Great single's racket is the Forza Legend or ti tech 600.

neverland
10-31-2002, 07:47 PM
...why don't get ur self Ti10,mp 88 and mp99?All Yonex
The popular racquet choosen by the single player...i've read a lot of this in a few thread.

TOmike
10-31-2002, 07:48 PM
budget is 70$ i was going to recommend those too

neverland
10-31-2002, 08:04 PM
$70.00 only? Why dont u get Titanium Pro 30,50 or 60? U can get two piece for that!
It's Yonex anyway!:D

Iwan
10-31-2002, 08:16 PM
get cab20sp. u might be able to get a couple of them if you go to the right places too :)

Stalker
10-31-2002, 08:59 PM
ASTi is a bit too expensive isnt it? 140CAD=89.6860USD Can anyone recommend other racquets? (yonex & carlton only coz thats the only brands they sell here at my place!)

Joseph
10-31-2002, 10:05 PM
You can try the Carlton Powerflow TT900, it's cheaper than the As-Ti. I'm thinking of getting it myself, my friend has said good things about it and his advice hasn't steered me wrong yet.

Stalker
10-31-2002, 10:09 PM
Originally posted by Joseph
You can try the Carlton Powerflow TT900, it's cheaper than the As-Ti. I'm thinking of getting it myself, my friend has said good things about it and his advice hasn't steered me wrong yet.

How much is it?

Joseph
10-31-2002, 10:23 PM
here in the US it's $95 USD, I'm pretty sure it's cheaper else where. From what I've been noticing, buying from Canada is so much cheaper than here in the US. So I'm assuming that other places must also sell cheaper than the US.

In Canada the As-Ti is 140CAD = 89.6860USD. Here in the US, the As-Ti is $140 US. So I'm thinking that the Powerflow TT900 is cheaper else where. :confused:

Stalker
10-31-2002, 11:04 PM
What material is the Carlton TT900 made of? Titanium or something else? Is it a good singles racquet?

Stalker
10-31-2002, 11:06 PM
Can anyone give other suggestions? What do you guys think of the Carlton Aerogear series? How about the Carbonex 9 tour?

Stalker
10-31-2002, 11:26 PM
What do you guys think of the Carbonex 20 tour and 20 long? Are they good singles racquet?

kitkat29
11-01-2002, 12:12 AM
Yes, Both of them are good for singles. I would prefer Cab-20 power

Stalker
11-01-2002, 01:02 AM
Whats the difference with the Cab 20 tour and long aside from the length? How bout the Cab 9 tour or the Aerogear series? Are they also good for singles?

Stalker
11-01-2002, 06:32 AM
I have narrowed my racquet choices down to these as they are the only ones available here in my place:

Carlton Airblade 450
Carlton HTF Ti 2000
Yonex Carbonex 9 tour SP
Yonex Carbonex 20 tour SP
Yonex Carbonex 20 long

Which do you think would be the best singles racquet?

P.S.

Is the Carlton High-Tension string good and worth buying?

NVIDIA256
11-01-2002, 06:49 AM
No Carlton String is SUCKY, Yonex makes good string, Also AShway Mirco legend(but they arn't very durable)

As for the racket, If I were you I'd get the Cab 20 or if you can try getting the discontinued Airblade 900.

Stalker
11-01-2002, 08:16 AM
NVIDIA256, why do you suggest i get the Cab20 over the other racquets i have mentioned? Which Carbonex 20? The tour sp or the long model? What is the max tension of the racquets I have mentioned? Why do you say that the carlton strings suck?

Cheung
11-01-2002, 08:34 AM
It's so wierd when one person says they've narrowed the choices down to xx, yy racquet and then somebody replies get zz racquet. Why list, in the answer, a racquet that wasn't given in the options?

Seen it happen not infrequently.

NVIDIA256
11-01-2002, 09:03 AM
NVIDIA256, why do you suggest i get the Cab20 over the other racquets i have mentioned? Which Carbonex 20? The tour sp or the long model

Well out of all the rackets you mentioned the cab 20, "I think is the best". Fact of the matter is choose what ever racket feels good to you, hold and swing them around, buy the one that feels best to you. The Cab 20 is a very well known/solid racket that has a good reputation.

As for the strings, Carlton strings are ok but nothing special, your better off getting Yonex strings, say something like bg65, if you are going any higher than 23pounds of tension then get the BG80 or 85

bigredlemon
11-01-2002, 04:58 PM
Originally posted by NVIDIA256


Well out of all the rackets you mentioned the cab 20, "I think is the best". Fact of the matter is choose what ever racket feels good to you, hold and swing them around, buy the one that feels best to you. The Cab 20 is a very well known/solid racket that has a good reputation.

As for the strings, Carlton strings are ok but nothing special, your better off getting Yonex strings, say something like bg65, if you are going any higher than 23pounds of tension then get the BG80 or 85

The first and second time I bought a real racquet, i had little idea how well a racquet would perform. You really need to use it for a few games to get to know it well. I think people finally get it right on the third try.

Stalker
11-01-2002, 08:08 PM
I don't get what you meant bigredlemon...

bigredlemon
11-02-2002, 12:53 AM
Originally posted by Stalker
I don't get what you meant bigredlemon...

First time I bought a racquet, i wanted a lot of power. After playing with it for awhile, I realized my net game was weak. (95g, slightly flexible) Great power with forehand and backhand, but slow at the net.

Second racquet i bought was light with good control. But it didn't have enough power. It was too light (82g, medium flex) power in backhand but not forehand.

My third racquet is going to be 85-90g slightly stiff.



So I'm gradually refining my racquet preference I "discover" my playing style and improve my technique. You can't find a perfect racquet unless you've already tried lots of racquets and have fully developed your technique/style.

Stalker
11-02-2002, 01:54 AM
Well, the 1st few racquets I bought were high-flex racquets then I found out that they lacks power for smashes but give good control. My next set of racquets was of medium-flex and my smashes became stronger and the control was still great but i want a racquet that will really make my smashes strong and still provide excellent control so I am looking for a fairly stiff to extra stiff racquet. (almost always play singles.)

So out of these racquets, which will fit my specifications?

Carlton Airblade 450
Carlton HTF Ti 2000
Yonex Carbonex 9 tour SP
Yonex Carbonex 20 tour SP
Yonex Carbonex 20 long

NVIDIA256
11-02-2002, 02:24 AM
I f you want stiff go with the Carlton in the list there, Carlton is known for making very stiff rackets!

Stalker
11-02-2002, 03:08 AM
Which of those two carltons should I get?

NVIDIA256
11-02-2002, 03:57 AM
WHICH EVER ONE YOU LIKE!, I can't really tell you, pick the one the feels best for you, to be honest the selction you have there is very limited, is that all your badminton shop sells? Try out another place.

bigredlemon
11-02-2002, 12:04 PM
As seen on a calrton racquet: "Extra light and stiff for massive power"
As seen on a yonex racquet: "head-heavy and flexible for massive power"

Take a guess... 50-50 chance you are right.

TOmike
11-02-2002, 01:16 PM
asking ppl on the net really doesn't help much.. i've tried it. they'll tell you that you need to try it out first..

imho, they're right, u can't let ppl tell you what to get, and an experienced player will not tell you what you need without watching you play first. i think it'll be better for you to do some research on this forum like i did, narrow down to a couple of models, and then ask for insight. i'm sure all these guys are nice and willing to help, but the decision is solely your own, so you're better off reading various racquet reviews and find a list of a few you've heard good stuff about, and in your price range, and then post here and ask for pros and cons... just a suggestion

NVIDIA256
11-02-2002, 03:00 PM
As seen on a calrton racquet: "Extra light and stiff for massive power"
As seen on a yonex racquet: "head-heavy and flexible for massive power"

Take a guess... 50-50 chance you are right.



Actually let me try and narrow this down, because what you say is indeed true, but for a different reason.

If you are skilled/strong player with great technique than most likely you are going to want a racket with a stiff shaft and tight string. You see only a player that posses these skills will be able to utilize the potential of a racket like that. Therefore "Extra light and stiff = massive power ans better control" (for this kind of player)

Now if you are an intermediate player, your strength/skills are better matched with a racket that has a more flexible shaft,(ranging from high to medium flex) cause the flex in the shaft allows a weaker stroke to gain more power(just like with string tension) So "head-heavy and flexible = massive power" as you can see both do the same, depending on the player.


Carlton's high end racket's AB900, AS-Ti, Rasmussen etc... are specialist racket, they as a company cater to strong players whom want speed and massive power. (I’m disregarding there lower-end cheap rackets) Problem is not everybody fits this category. SO some will like the fell and play of Carlton’s, while others will hate it. I have never seen a company produce a badminton racket with such a stiff shaft like Carlton has. I do not recommend beginner or low-intermediate players to buy or play Carlton high end racket’s as I have found that they work against the person.

When a Carlton racket says medium flex expect that to be the same as a stiff shaft from other companies like Yonex or Victor. There Airblades are very fast rackets(matter of fact the fastest clocked bird recorded in history was done by Simon Archer with Carlton AB900) but do not suit every one. Does this make them better rackets? The answer to that is No!

Personally If I were you, from the list of rackets you posted, that your local store only seels, I would go for the Yonex cab 20, probably suit you better, but fi you like the feel of the Carlton racket then by all means go for it!

Stalker
11-02-2002, 07:34 PM
Which Cab20? the Tour SP or the Long model?

NVIDIA256
11-02-2002, 08:52 PM
I don't know. The only cab 20 i have ever tried was the cab 20 muscle.

Which ever one cab 20 you like that he has

Iwan
11-02-2002, 10:01 PM
well for cab20s, according to someone.... i think it was cheung, the best one is the Cab20sp, then the Cab20 tour, followed by Cab20 long then cab20 special. Cab20 special is a bit out of whack according to some people, some of the special are good but some are not. the balance point on the racket is not consistent

NVIDIA256
11-02-2002, 10:03 PM
Iwan what about the cab muscle, is it any good?

Stalker
11-02-2002, 10:47 PM
I prefer longer racquets for better reach in singles so i have narrowed my list down to these three racquets:

Yonex Carbonex 15 long
Yonex Carbonex 20 long
Carlton HTF Ti 2000

Can anyone give the positive and negative sides of each racquet?