Can Indonesia win the europe tour SS ?

[nonie]

denmark open :

MS :

sony seed 4

MD :

markis / hendra seed 1
hendra / alven seed 6
bona / ahsan seed 7

WD :

Shendy / meiliana seed 4
nitya / greysia seed 7

XD :

nova / lillyana seed 2
vita / hendra seed 7

[nonie]

french open 2009 :

i think , indonesia player will seeded :

MS

taufik hidayat seed 5
sony -
simon -

WS

maria will play in qualification
firdasari -

MD

markis / hendra seed 3

WD

shendy / meiliana seed 6

XD

lilyana / nova seed 2
vita / hendra seed 7

[ctjcad]

..so far, only Kido & Setiawan have shined for INA & won both the Denmark and French Open SS (last yr)..Flandy & Vita won the French Open XD title in 2007..

What are their chances of success in both?? It depends on how stiff the competition will be (is the CHN squad going to send its full 1st team)?? M'sia squad?? KOR squad??..

[whack_d_net]

To answer the original post:
Can we? Yes of course we can, as we have capability and possibility to do that :)
Will we? Errr.... I dunno, depends on our LUCK :D :D
So far INA only get 2 out of 40 SS titles overall :(
Hope INA players will fare better in Den and Fra
Good Luck :) :)

[hcpoirot]

Really depend on other countries participants and draw.

Markis K and Hendra S had the most high chances to win Denmark or French as long as they did not meet JJS/LYD.

Women singles and women doubles, very very hard to win.

Mix doubles, even if China and Korea did not send their strongest pairs, Denmark pairs will also very tough to beat. NOva not at his best anymore.

Men singles. Depend if Lin Dan play or not. :)

[etudiant]

french open 2009 :

i think , indonesia player will seeded :

MS

taufik hidayat seed 5
sony -
simon -

WS

maria will play in qualification
firdasari -

MD

markis / hendra seed 3

WD

shendy / meiliana seed 6

XD

lilyana / nova seed 2
vita / hendra seed 7

Gosh, Maria now has to begin from Qualification again...???:mad:

[etudiant]

back to original question --->>> one word : absolutely...

[jchan04]

i don't know, its home ground for the Europeans... so they are playing in favour with their crowd and comfort. Peter Gade took home both Denmark/French last yr, I think Tine R. won as well... but we'll see. Best of luck for everyone.

[lexluthor1975]

i don't know, its home ground for the Europeans... so they are playing in favour with their crowd and comfort. Peter Gade took home both Denmark/French last yr, I think Tine R. won as well... but we'll see. Best of luck for everyone.

Wang Lin won both French and Denmark Open...

[CLELY]

Gosh, Maria now has to begin from Qualification again...???:mad:

Yeah, so sad that Maria Kristin's WR is #48 now (per 01 October 2009, newly updated through BWF website). For woman category, not pessimistic but on paper slim prospect to win title in both SS.

Answer for thread question -- Yes, INA can win title in DEN & FRA SS, likely through MD discipline as best chance.

[Jagdpanther]

Can we win the title?

[jasonmarc]

Can we win the title?

U shd put the INA president photos.....not USA's president's photos......:D

[jasonmarc]

Yeah, so sad that Maria Kristin's WR is #48 now (per 01 October 2009, newly updated through BWF website). For woman category, not pessimistic but on paper slim prospect to win title in both SS.

Answer for thread question -- Yes, INA can win title in DEN & FRA SS, likely through MD discipline as best chance.

Yes, MK/HS has to take this two.......if not, their WR will drop.....seriously! ;)

[ctjcad]

Can we win the title?

U shd put the INA president photos.....not USA's president's photos......:D
..Yes, Jagdpanther can, too!!...:eek:;)

[ytyang]

Yes, MK/HS has to take this two.......if not, their WR will drop.....seriously! ;)
"Is Obama an Indonesia citizen" was a hot topic back in 2008,
so his photo is fine if that would help INA win titles...:rolleyes:

[ctjcad]

..Sure there are reports of that hot topic and there is a pic, circulating online, showing a paperwork of him attending a school in INA.
But, AFAIK, there has never been an official paperwork showing him being a legal citizen of INA, while he was a kid back in the 60s. Even during that time, a person didn't have to be a legal INA citizen to attend an Indonesian school. Plus the process for one to become an INA citizen from another citizenship is not easy. Usual time is 5 yrs, but could be hasten if one marries an INA citizen.
So, there is no real evidence or proof he was ever an INA citizen. Only a bunch of questions & all based on assumptions.

[2cents]

Well, that might be a good news for Obama, because Lolo Soetoro registered Barry Soetoro as a Indonesian citizen born Aug. 4, 1961, in Honolulu, Hawaii.

Even once a Indonesia Citizen, that would not necessarily disqualify Obama as the president. Obama's biggest problem is the rumor that he may have been born in his father's home country of Kenya. That will definitely disqualify his presidency.

Therefore, Barry Soetoro register card verified that he was born in Hawaii, that's a good news for Obama.

[koo_fan]

..Sure there are reports of that hot topic and there is a pic, circulating online, showing a paperwork of him attending a school in INA.
But, AFAIK, there has never been an official paperwork showing him being a legal citizen of INA, while he was a kid back in the 60s. Even during that time, a person didn't have to be a legal INA citizen to attend an Indonesian school. Plus the process for one to become an INA citizen from another citizenship is not easy. Usual time is 5 yrs, but could be hasten if one marries an INA citizen.
So, there is no real evidence or proof he was ever an INA citizen. Only a bunch of questions & all based on assumptions.
There was never a solid argument to approve or disapprove. But one thing is sure. He was once apart of Indonesian community. Having a white mother, with kenyan immigrant father, childhood in Indonesia with a Indonesian muslim stepfather, teenage years with white grandparents, grown up to be a black american Christian. He is a global citizen who owned so much support from foreigners. Though the best answer on his credibility is best left to the Americans!

Indonesians can claim Obama to be apart of them. They can use Yes, We can! slogan.

[ytyang]

Obama didn't help Chicago to host the 2016 Olympics,
Indonesia Boleh!

[ctjcad]

Well, that might be a good news for Obama, because Lolo Soetoro registered Barry Soetoro as a Indonesian citizen born Aug. 4, 1961, in Honolulu, Hawaii.

Even once a Indonesia Citizen, that would not necessarily disqualify Obama as the president. Obama's biggest problem is the rumor that he may have been born in his father's home country of Kenya. That will definitely disqualify his presidency.

Therefore, Barry Soetoro register card verified that he was born in Hawaii, that's a good news for Obama.

There was never a solid argument to approve or disapprove. But one thing is sure. He was once apart of Indonesian community.
...
Indonesians can claim Obama to be apart of them. They can use Yes, We can! slogan.
- It's not about whether he was born in the U.S. or not. That argument is probably no longer valid. It's about whether he was an INA citizen or not.
- Yes, there was a never a solid argument/proof to prove or disapprove that he was ever an INA citizen.
- Being & feeling as one of the citizens of a country is different than not being one.
- Just because he was adopted not because he wanted to but out of necessity?

[koo_fan]

Was Barry @ Barrack an Indonesian back then is not important. It isn't, IMO. It is interesting to figure out but wasn't important. I am sure if he remembered his childhood there, that would be the best clarification. Indonesia is apart of his life journey. He need not find out or determine whether or not he was once an Indonesian.

Indonesians can always use this as fact, i am fine with it. It bothers me when people exaggerating and argue to death on this. I found a forum with a thread on this issue. so ..what for? No conclusion.

Chris, a single issue on Obama is interesting, huh? "Sky falling" thread is wide enough to cover. :p

[ctjcad]

Was Barry @ Barrack an Indonesian back then is not important. It isn't, IMO. It is interesting to figure out but wasn't important.
..
..ytyang's last post sums it up pretty well..;)

[whack_d_net]

Muahahaha, look what you've done again! @Jagdpanther
LOL, just kidding :D :D
See, every single word or picture can lead us to everywhere
Hope it won't be another HOT out of topics thread again :p :p
Please back to topic, guys! ;) ;)
....
Hmmm yes, as usual INA biggest chance to grab title come from MD
Furthermore, MK/HS had to defend their titles from Den and Fra SS to maintain their WR pts and rankings
Otherwise their WR will drop :(
Fortunately LYD/JJS skip both tourney, and CY/FHF only compete in Fra SS
But there still KKK/TBH around, ready to claim back WR #1 position as their pts gap just a close behind
For MS and XD, though the chances are quite slim, lets hope INA players perform well in both tourneys
As for WS and WD, i expecting some upsets (read: miracles) from them
Btw how bout Greysia Polii?
Her name still on the list, though
Hope she back in her best shape, already :) :)

[jasonmarc]

Muahahaha, look what you've done again! @Jagdpanther
LOL, just kidding :D :D
See, every single word or picture can lead us to everywhere
Hope it won't be another HOT out of topics thread again :p :p
Please back to topic, guys! ;) ;)
....
Hmmm yes, as usual INA biggest chance to grab title come from MD
Furthermore, MK/HS had to defend their titles from Den and Fra SS to maintain their WR pts and rankings
Otherwise their WR will drop :(
Fortunately LYD/JJS skip both tourney, and CY/FHF only compete in Fra SS
But there still KKK/TBH around, ready to claim back WR #1 position as their pts gap just a close behind
For MS and XD, though the chances are quite slim, lets hope INA players perform well in both tourneys
As for WS and WD, i expecting some upsets (read: miracles) from them
Btw how bout Greysia Polii?
Her name still on the list, though
Hope she back in her best shape, already :) :)

Dont you worry about kkk/tbh....they'll lost to any Jap or Eng pair in early rounds....no worry.....

[simonlovers]

Dont you worry about kkk/tbh....they'll lost to any Jap or Eng pair in early rounds....no worry.....
They still the best MD in MAS...don't underestimate them..

[jasonmarc]

They still the best MD in MAS...don't underestimate them..

I never underestimated them,....they are good in badminton, but with bad attidtude in the game.....:cool: sad to say ;)

[Jagdpanther]

Obama didn't help Chicago to host the 2016 Olympics,
Indonesia Boleh!
Ow, no, 'Boleh' slogan has always been Malaysia's trademark.

Indonesia is yet to find their own cheering chant. "Indonesia Bisa" isn't cool enough.
So, temporarily, I suggest using "Indonesia? Yes, we can!"
I call it... Spirit of Barry. :p

[whack_d_net]

Dont you worry about kkk/tbh....they'll lost to any Jap or Eng pair in early rounds....no worry.....

Hahaha are you start using that infamous reverse psychological methods as well? :D :D

[ctjcad]

Ow, no, 'Boleh' slogan has always been Malaysia's trademark.

Indonesia is yet to find their own cheering chant. "Indonesia Bisa" isn't cool enough.
So, temporarily, I suggest using "Indonesia? Yes, we can!"
I call it... Spirit of Barry. :p
.."Indonesia? yes, we can!"...Yes, Indonesia can bring Rudy Hartono, Liem Swie King and Susy Susanti back out of retirement and play for the national team, again..

[simonlovers]

I never underestimated them,....they are good in badminton, but with bad attidtude in the game.....:cool: sad to say ;)
maybe u can teach them some lessons about attitude..:D

[jasonmarc]

maybe u can teach them some lessons about attitude..:D

No, not from me...., they shd learn it from other top pairs like CY/FHF, MK/HS and LYD/JJS.......:)

[george@chongwei]

Yes, maybe they can take advantage of so many top player's absents especially in the md category.

[nonie]

Day 3 ,,,

Firdasari Vs Elizabeth Cann = 60 % - 40 %
Nitya / Greysia Vs Zhang Dan Zhang Zhi Bo = 60 - 40
Maria Hensboll /ana Skelbeck Vs Shendy / Meiliana = 40 - 60

[jutawin]

I think Indonesia can get at least 1 title here..

[george@chongwei]

I think Indonesia can get at least 1 title here..
In which category u think?:p

I think most probably the ms;)

[jasonmarc]

In which category u think?:p


I think most probably the ms;)

I think the highest chance come from MD, then XD........;)

[simonlovers]

In which category u think?:p

I think most probably the ms;)
u're corret !!!
;);)

answer the topic ; YEs !!!!!!!!!! :):)

[koo_fan]

I think the highest chance come from MD, then XD........;)
I am no expert to do the prediction but yes, i'd think of their MD first, before any other category, to win for Indo.

[koo_fan]

u're corret !!!
;);)

answer the topic ; YEs !!!!!!!!!! :):)
Yea!

That's more like it, and that's what we need. A Win matters, but I just love the chant more!

[george@chongwei]

u're corret !!!
;);)

answer the topic ; YEs !!!!!!!!!! :):)
Yeah, i'm glad that i predicted correctly:D
you must be really happy that your idol, simon santoso has won his 1ST SUPER SERIES title?:)

[simonlovers]

Yeah, i'm glad that i predicted correctly:D
you must be really happy that your idol, simon santoso has won his 1ST SUPER SERIES title?:)
;)........
yeah..and he is the indonesian who win ms title denmark open after hermawan susanto in 1991-1992...:p

[Jagdpanther]

;)........
yeah..and he is the indonesian who win ms title denmark open after hermawan susanto in 1991-1992...:p
Being Indonesian fans requires great level of patience... :p

[jasonmarc]

Being Indonesian fans requires great level of patience... :p

Talking about waiting for major titles, we Mas fans have even greater level of patience compared to INA fans....:D:D:D....:o:o

[badMania]

;)........
yeah..and he is the indonesian who win ms title denmark open after hermawan susanto in 1991-1992...:p

We never have good records in the Denmark Open :o The MD title won last year was like one in "I am not sure how many" years.

[freelast]

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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Hong Kong


We never have good records in the Denmark Open :o The MD title won last year was like one in "I am not sure how many" years.

is the "We" in you message = "Hong Kong"? seems not.

why there is no affiliation in the profile for people puting their team there, or why not use location for the nation or association they support, like Suetyan did. That way, people can read easily.

[huangkwokhau]

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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Hong Kong



is the "We" in you message = "Hong Kong"? seems not.

why there is no affiliation in the profile for people puting their team there, or why not use location for the nation or association they support, like Suetyan did. That way, people can read easily.
Badmania lives in Hongkong..Suetyan is not or has nothing to do with CBA..she lives in Malaysia not in china....is that important??

[ctjcad]

...
why there is no affiliation in the profile for people puting their team there, or why not use location for the nation or association they support, like Suetyan did. That way, people can read easily.
- Some members only support individual players, even from many countries, and could care less abt being associated or a loyal supporter of a particular team or country or association.
- badMania also supports the HK team or maybe some of its players, besides supporting his main association, Indonesia.

[badadum]

Heh, I'm sure INA fans will take the 1 title...its definitely better than the zero that seemed to be the norm for this year. :o
Good luck in the French Open....I'm intrigue to see if Rian/Yoke can spring a few surprises there. ;)

[badMania]

why there is no affiliation in the profile for people puting their team there, or why not use location for the nation or association they support, like Suetyan did. That way, people can read easily.

Err....I believe that most ppl here know from my 10k++ posts that I am an Indonesian, based in HKG :o

[abedeng]

- Some members only support individual players, even from many countries, and could care less abt being associated or a loyal supporter of a particular team or country or association.


True, true. For example, I am affiliated to great badminton matches more than the players themselves. Players come and go, but great matches will always be remembered.

[kuwichert]

additionnal to all what is correctly said already, we also have to cheer underdogs fighting for their lifes and making the tournaments more intersting :cool: as well as we have to care about the cuties on court too:eek:, sometimes the matches are not interesting, but there must be a reason to keep the eyes on the courts! :cool:
sometimes we also simply need to cheer the oposites of teams which deserve to get some punishment :D for whatever the reason is - like skipping tournaments without a real reason:mad: , setting up matches :mad::mad: or whatever disappoints the fans of fair and great badminton sports :mad::mad::mad:

[ye333]

But Kido's new trick (succeeded 3 times in the 2nd game of MDSF) is outrageous! :D:D

So outrageous that even if I can do it, I would not do it when playing my friends... :cool:

[narnia]

I predict in France MK/HS will lose in the 1st round to the Japaneses.

Enjoy~:)

[george@chongwei]

I predict in France MK/HS will lose in the 1st round to the Japaneses.

Enjoy~:)
Wish your wish come true:)

[narnia]

Wish your wish come true:)

You seem to need study more about the JPN duo.

:)

[abedeng]

additionnal to all what is correctly said already, we also have to cheer underdogs fighting for their lifes and making the tournaments more intersting :cool: as well as we have to care about the cuties on court too:eek:, sometimes the matches are not interesting, but there must be a reason to keep the eyes on the courts! :cool:


Well said! I approve wholeheartedly ..... Hey, it's for the advancement of this sport. :D:D:D


Talking about waiting for major titles, we Mas fans have even greater level of patience compared to INA fans....:D:D:D....:o:o

Really? :eek::confused::p All I can say is that only Malaysian fans in the 70s and early 80s had that great patience that you mentioned. I was one of them.

[abedeng]

I just read that in a press interview with Fung Permadi at the WJC, it was said that the Indonesian clubs will play a more active role in the development of the sport in Indonesia. Club and independent players can earn the right to represent the country in tournaments and PBSI will not stop them.

[badMania]

I just read that in a press interview with Fung Permadi at the WJC, it was said that the Indonesian clubs will play a more active role in the development of the sport in Indonesia. Club and independent players can earn the right to represent the country in tournaments and PBSI will not stop them.

We have seen that some other clubs other than PB Djarum (PB Mutiara, Tangkas, and Suryanaga) have started sending their players to regional tourneys.

The domestic circuit (SirNas) is also very interesting to follow this year, with more money being poured in by Djarum as the sponsor.

Now, winners can get at least Rp10m, which is considered a huge sum of money for locals.

[huangkwokhau]

We have seen that some other clubs other than PB Djarum (PB Mutiara, Tangkas, and Suryanaga) have started sending their players to regional tourneys.

The domestic circuit (SirNas) is also very interesting to follow this year, with more money being poured in by Djarum as the sponsor.

Now, winners can get at least Rp10m, which is considered a huge sum of money for locals.
And at least another 10% more next year...now the winner can get Rp.12 Million now...not bad...

[huangkwokhau]

You seem to need study more about the JPN duo.

:)
You want your LYD/JJS to be number 1 again...:D..they can take it as Kido/Hendra got Olympic and WC....
I predict that LYD/JJS will tumble more in next HKG and China series....they are not that strong anymore....

[Jagdpanther]

You want your LYD/JJS to be number 1 again...:D..they can take it as Kido/Hendra got Olympic and WC....
I predict that LYD/JJS will tumble more in next HKG and China series....they are not that strong anymore....
Let him/her have all the fun with all these prediction and domination things, mister.
If s/he's happy with that, then it's OK.:)

[george@chongwei]

You seem to need study more about the JPN duo.

:)
You seems to have studied the JPN duo for quite some time. Maybe u could provide a list of your analised data here?;) What if Kido/Setiawan win in the 1st round?:)

[george@chongwei]

The japanese duo lost tamely to kido/setiawan..;)

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[Jagdpanther]

The japanese duo lost tamely to kido/setiawan..;)

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Please, george, my friend.
This is just a prediction. ;)

KKK/TBH will win this FO SS. Malaysia Boleh!
narnia also boleh! :)

[koo_fan]

The japanese duo lost tamely to kido/setiawan..;)

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I'm glad kido/setiawan is not beaten in early round.

[huangkwokhau]

I predict in France MK/HS will lose in the 1st round to the Japaneses.

Enjoy~:)
:D:D.....now you can eat your words......not even close match at all....:D

[Jagdpanther]

:D:D.....now you can eat your words......not even close match at all....:D
Give him/her a break la, mister.
If she's indeed a good prediction maker, s/he would've been Top 3 in PAW tournaments all the time.:)

[simonlovers]

I'm glad kido/setiawan is not beaten in early round.
never mind..
still have another JAP MD in next round who can beat them..
because we have an analyst for JAP duo...

KKK/TBH will win in france open 2009..

[limsy]

wow wow wow
relax:)
we need to wait until final or after koo/tan lost
then just we can conclude
dont forget he/she said before koo/tan will win swiss open:p

[badadum]

wow wow wow
relax:)
we need to wait until final or after koo/tan lost
then just we can conclude
dont forget he/she said before koo/tan will win swiss open:p

Hey, even an idiot will nails the jackpot once in awhile. He's due to get something right after all the stupendous claims he made. :p

[eaglehelang]

I'm glad kido/setiawan is not beaten in early round.
Me too, me want watch them play, esp aft off cos of Kido's high BP.


Please, george, my friend.
This is just a prediction. ;)

KKK/TBH will win this FO SS. Malaysia Boleh!
narnia also boleh! :)

My friend, you real or not in predicting KKK/TBH can win France? :p:p

Wait, then INA win which title? Sony or Simon?

[george@chongwei]

howdy eagle, jagd was just teasing someone la:p

[Masahiro]

Anyone know what happened with Alvent? But i saw Hendra AG in XD...internet connection is slow enough these past couple of weeks made me lazy enough to surf anything --" and realized i didn't see alvent's

All Ina final in XD nice! <-- it's late i know...

[george@chongwei]

Alvents plays in japan league i think..

[huangkwokhau]

Anyone know what happened with Alvent? But i saw Hendra AG in XD...internet connection is slow enough these past couple of weeks made me lazy enough to surf anything --" and realized i didn't see alvent's

All Ina final in XD nice! <-- it's late i know...
Alvent plays in Japan league..thats why you saw some withdrawals of japanese earlier...

[Masahiro]

aahh i see, thx for that :D