Congratz to Rio that defeated the strong fave Chicago, Tokyo and Madrid yesterday to win right of 2016 Summer games!
Wow, two big sport events will take place in Rio, World Cup 2014 and Olympic Games 2016.

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Rio de Janeiro is just so lucky to hold two big events! :eek: Congratulation! :)

Rio de Janeiro is just so lucky to hold two big events! :eek: Congratulation! :)
lucky?
RdJ is working very hard to bid. if you know the past RdJ ........ :o

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It's time to get more people in Rio and/or South America to get exposed to our game of Badminton. :):):)
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Hopefully, badminton will still be in the Games. I am worried because of the low participations of the South american Nations.

Its better to have it in RIO. The voters made the right Choice. It will definitely boost Brazil's economy knowing that they will be hosting the 2016 Games.

Chicago was just overly hyped by Media Boost with Obama's rallying behind it.
Tokyo just wasn't the right Asian country at the moment to host it... just after Beijing despite's its great infrastructure and people.
Madrid... my heart felt for them after losing as Runner's up the 2nd Time. Probably Voters dont want it to be held in another European country right after London Games.

RIO.. what can i say... Brazilian Chiccas and Football Nation... i guess its time to PROVE that RIO will have what it takes to host the Olympic Games. Its good for the country.. its time for them to change their infrastucture and make a NEW BRAZIL ahead before the Olympic Games in 2016. Not forgetting A first for a South American Nation to host it.

It could well be the decade of South America, with the World Cup and the Olympics being held there. The nations of South America should work together to capitalize on this and promote the continent. Who knows id such an economic opportunity will come along again for a while.

Personally, I am thinking it would be worth while attending both events.

Congrats Rio and South America

Hopefully, badminton will still be in the Games. I am worried because of the low participations of the South american Nations.
..in relation to badminton, there was also a bit of concern about holding the Olympics in USA/Chicago, knowing well the sport is not that popular here in the states. It should be interesting to see how the Brazilians receive/support badminton as it's also not a popular sport in that country. Badminton will still be there in 2016; after that, who knows. Most likely, a lot of the North American baddy fans will flock down south to support badminton.
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Chicago was just overly hyped by Media Boost with Obama's rallying behind it.
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...couldn't have said it any better...I guess "Oh Bummer" is the appropriate respond...:eek:
Btw, i was actually pulling for Tokyo to get it, but i guess they've held it before...

I saw some of the venues' design/concepts/layouts for RioDJ and they look marvelous. Looking fw to seeing the final venues...7 yrs is still quite a ways..

Anyway, 1 last image to share...2020 in Chicago or USA?? fuhgeddaboudit!!..

Its better to have it in RIO. The voters made the right Choice. It will definitely boost Brazil's economy knowing that they will be hosting the 2016 Games.


This argument always seemed kind of strange to me. Don't most host countries typically lose out money wise in the end? Personally I'm glad that it isn't being held in the US. We're blowing through enough cash as it is >.>

Only if they have learned the lessons from the previous games.. it will certainly help boost the economy. Even now Beijing is going to convert their venues into Malls and some sort of resorts etc..

The success of that strategy assumes that the local economy will be able to justify holding onto and recycling the left over infrastructure from the Olympics. Gotta wonder if Brazil would be able to do that. If there were any examples of mega events consistently coming out in the black I'd agree, but the whole economic boost argument seems to be nothing more than a guess imo.

.. it will certainly help boost the economy...
... but the whole economic boost argument seems to be nothing more than a guess imo.
..for a very short term economic boost, yes. Overall, we don't know. Depends how well Rio and the organizer plan this out.
IMO, safety (Rio being one of the most violent cities in the world) and the long-term plans for the Olympics venues are the challenges prior to the Olympics. IMO, 7 yrs is enough time to brainstorm on these 2 issues & most importantly the post-Olympics usage of the venues. I know RioDJ is situated pretty nicely along a coast and it still has tourism as one of its incentives for the future.

Yippee, the nation with the biggest statue of Jesus Christ at the world's largest jungle - the Amazon. And in it are the biggest freshwater fish, SNAKE and RAT!:eek:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYRC4H64EFk

Great video BadYankee. Wonder if there are Gorillas in the Amazon?! Can they migrate from the Belgian Congo or present day Zaire to Brazil. I guess the early colonials Portugese didn't thought of it.:rolleyes:

Brazilian Chiccas
This. :D Pure awesome sauce

..for a very short term economic boost, yes. Overall, we don't know.
Well that's my point. As a general rule I don't think it's a good idea for a developing country to sink $14 billionish without any certainty as to what exactly will happen.

Depends how well Rio and the organizer plan this out.
IMO, safety (Rio being one of the most violent cities in the world) and the long-term plans for the Olympics venues are the challenges prior to the Olympics. IMO, 7 yrs is enough time to brainstorm on these 2 issues & most importantly the post-Olympics usage of the venues. I know RioDJ is situated pretty nicely along a coast and it still has tourism as one of its incentives for the future.

I guess so, but for the most part (from what little I've read; a couple journal articles and news articles) the consensus on the impact of mega-events like the olympics is not only a mixed bag, but a rather new one. The argument doesn't hold enough water to justify committing to such a large expenditure imo. It'd kinda suck to find out after seven years that they screwed themselves over <.<

It'd kinda suck to find out after seven years that they screwed themselves over <.<

Well, we'll (Vancouver) be the next city to find out. I think we have most of our bases covered though. Roll on 2010.... only 4 months to go.

Well that's my point. As a general rule I don't think it's a good idea for a developing country to sink $14 billionish without any certainty as to what exactly will happen.

I guess so, but for the most part (from what little I've read; a couple journal articles and news articles) the consensus on the impact of mega-events like the olympics is not only a mixed bag, but a rather new one. The argument doesn't hold enough water to justify committing to such a large expenditure imo. It'd kinda suck to find out after seven years that they screwed themselves over <.<
- Are the RDJ Olympics organizer and Brazil going to spend $14 billionish to develop this??..
- Let them (RDJ) find out. Beijing found out already...

These are excerpt taken (from Wikipedia) on the proposed RDJ venues (A total of 34 venues: 10 existing, 8 need renovations, 9 new & 7 temporary):

"Most venues are already operational, recently developed or renovated. According to the Rio de Janeiro 2016 bid committee, there are ten (29%) existing venues with no permanent works required and eight (24%) venues requiring reforms, while nine (26%) new permanent venues and seven (21%) temporary venues will be built. In total there will be 34 competition venues alongside 29 training venues, as part of the training venues strategy. The most significant legacy project from the bid is the Olympic Training Center (OTC) program and facilities with its headquarters located in Barra zone. Furthermore, the Rio de Janeiro 2016 bid committee recognizes the possibility of new sports being added to the Olympic Program and, following detailed analysis for each of the seven potential sports—baseball, golf, karate, roller sports, rugby, softball and squash—confirms its capability to accommodate any of them in respect to venues, transport and other operational or logistical aspects. In addition, Rio de Janeiro and the four proposed cities to hold football (soccer) competitions—Brasília, Belo Horizonte, Salvador and São Paulo—were chosen to host the 2014 FIFA World Cup."

Compare to the recent Beijing Olympics (Total of 37 venues: 11 existing, 12 new, 8 temporary; 6 outside, 2 new & 4 existing/temporary):

"A total of 11,028 athletes from 204 NOCs participated in 302 events in 28 sports held in 37 competition venues. Events took place at eleven pre-existing venues, twelve new venues constructed for the Olympics, and eight temporary venues that were removed following the games. In addition, six venues outside Beijing hosted events, two of which were newly built for the Olympics."

..unlike the Beijing Olympics:
- RDJ is going to use an existing stadium for the opening & closing ceremonies.
- Further, it's so close to the ocean/beach, it makes it even more charming for the athletes and visitors to congregate.
- Looking at the Copacabana beach, visitors/athletes would imagine they've just stepped onto Oahu/Honolulu..:cool:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Summer_Olympics#Venues_and_infrastructure

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/aa/Maracana.jpg/799px-Maracana.jpg
Maracanã Stadium, site of the opening and closing ceremonies, in addition to the finals of Football.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/95/Stitched_003.jpg/800px-Stitched_003.jpg
João Havelange Stadium, site of Track and Field events.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/90/Parque_Aqu%C3%A1tico_Maria_Lenk_13072007.jpg/800px-Parque_Aqu%C3%A1tico_Maria_Lenk_13072007.jpg
Maria Lenk National Aquatic Center, site of Water polo and Diving.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/52/COPACABANA_2009.jpg/800px-COPACABANA_2009.jpg
Copacabana Beach, site of Marathon swimming, Triathlon and Beach volleyball.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/45/Arena_Ol%C3%ADmpica_do_Rio_14072007.jpg/800px-Arena_Ol%C3%ADmpica_do_Rio_14072007.jpg
HSBC Arena, site of Artistic gymnastics, Rhythmic gymnastics and Trampoline.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/49/Samb%C3%B3dromo.jpg/800px-Samb%C3%B3dromo.jpg
Sambadrome, site of Marathon and Archery.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/38/Maracan%C3%A3zinho.jpg/800px-Maracan%C3%A3zinho.jpg
Maracanãzinho Gymnasium, site of Volleyball.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d9/Lagoa_Rodrigo_de_Freitas.jpg
Lagoa Rodrigo de Freitas, site of Rowing and Canoeing.

And this venue will be used for badminton. Riocentro-Pavilion 4 in Barra. Built in 1977 & can accommodate about 6,500 spectators

http://www.rio2016.com/files/galeria/Rio2016_Venue_07_1.jpg

http://riocentro.com.br/plugins/br.com.fabricadigital.galeria/fotos/pavilhao.jpg

http://riocentro.com.br/plugins/br.com.fabricadigital.galeria/fotos/Riocentro-.jpg

http://riocentro.com.br/plugins/br.com.fabricadigital.galeria/fotos/Foto29_.jpg

http://riocentro.com.br/plugins/br.com.fabricadigital.galeria/fotos/foto_aerea.jpg

http://riocentro.com.br/plugins/br.com.fabricadigital.galeria/fotos/lake.jpg

..in relation to badminton, there was also a bit of concern about holding the Olympics in USA/Chicago, knowing well the sport is not that popular here in the states. It should be interesting to see how the Brazilians receive/support badminton as it's also not a popular sport in that country. Badminton will still be there in 2016; after that, who knows. Most likely, a lot of the North American baddy fans will flock down south to support badminton.

...couldn't have said it any better...I guess "Oh Bummer" is the appropriate respond...:eek:
Btw, i was actually pulling for Tokyo to get it, but i guess they've held it before...

I saw some of the venues' design/concepts/layouts for RioDJ and they look marvelous. Looking fw to seeing the final venues...7 yrs is still quite a ways..

Anyway, 1 last image to share...2020 in Chicago or USA?? fuhgeddaboudit!!..
These girls look like some Broke Owemama supports...

I support OG2016 in Rio. Beach every event!!! Woo Hoo!!!

:eek: Truly, the Truth of Partying - BEAUTY! The Latin Blend of Portugese to the Natives is comparable to the European Colonials on North America and well evident in Asia!:D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgnHEyeMECc

- Are the RDJ Olympics organizer and Brazil going to spend $14 billionish to develop this??..
- Let them (RDJ) find out. Beijing found out already...

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/latin_america/july-dec09/olympics_10-02.html

http://www.olympic.org/Documents/Reports/EN/en_report_1469.pdf

Yup. That's more than twice the projected expense that any of the other finalists expected. I'd also point out that most hosts tend to spend more than the projected numbers. For the most part it's the $11 billionish in infrastructure additions that they'd need to support the games. As much as they are a good thing, you still have to wonder if they will be able to support such infrastructure after the games.


These are excerpt taken (from Wikipedia) on the proposed RDJ venues (A total of 34 venues: 10 existing, 8 need renovations, 9 new & 7 temporary):

"Most venues are already operational, recently developed or renovated. According to the Rio de Janeiro 2016 bid committee, there are ten (29%) existing venues with no permanent works required and eight (24%) venues requiring reforms, while nine (26%) new permanent venues and seven (21%) temporary venues will be built. In total there will be 34 competition venues alongside 29 training venues, as part of the training venues strategy. The most significant legacy project from the bid is the Olympic Training Center (OTC) program and facilities with its headquarters located in Barra zone. Furthermore, the Rio de Janeiro 2016 bid committee recognizes the possibility of new sports being added to the Olympic Program and, following detailed analysis for each of the seven potential sports—baseball, golf, karate, roller sports, rugby, softball and squash—confirms its capability to accommodate any of them in respect to venues, transport and other operational or logistical aspects. In addition, Rio de Janeiro and the four proposed cities to hold football (soccer) competitions—Brasília, Belo Horizonte, Salvador and São Paulo—were chosen to host the 2014 FIFA World Cup."

Compare to the recent Beijing Olympics (Total of 37 venues: 11 existing, 12 new, 8 temporary; 6 outside, 2 new & 4 existing/temporary):

"A total of 11,028 athletes from 204 NOCs participated in 302 events in 28 sports held in 37 competition venues. Events took place at eleven pre-existing venues, twelve new venues constructed for the Olympics, and eight temporary venues that were removed following the games. In addition, six venues outside Beijing hosted events, two of which were newly built for the Olympics."


http://www.olympic.org/Documents/Reports/EN/en_report_1469.pdf
(chicago pg 16 tokyo pg 34, Rio pg 52, madrid pg 69)

It would've been similar in every other finalist country. In fact, chicago madrid and tokyo had 5,5, and 7 more existing structures respectively to begin with. This means that they can support that infrastructure already, Rio needs to build 7 venues (which admittedly are already planned regardless, but at the same time are mostly related to mega events) just to catch up.

..let Rio DJ/Brazil find out and experience what it feels like to hold the Olympics; CHN already found out...they want it bad enough, it's their 1st time, so let them have it.:cool:
*U.S., Spain and Japan already held it before...so...
**It's quite staggering to see such wide discrepancies in projected costs between RDJ and the other 3 nominated host cities..
***Thanks for providing those links for the rest of us (interested enough) to browse (however long the PDFs are)..

..let Rio DJ/Brazil find out and experience what it feels like to hold the Olympics; CHN already found out...they want it bad enough, it's their 1st time, so let them have it.:cool:
*U.S., Spain and Japan already held it before...so...
**It's quite staggering to see such wide discrepancies in projected costs between RDJ and the other 3 nominated host cities..
***Thanks for providing those links for the rest of us (interested enough) to browse (however long the PDFs are)..

I could personally care less who hosts it, I just don't like the economic argument that the candidates were using to support their cause <.<

@***: They're easy enough to browse if you're looking for specific info, especially since they're searchable <.<

- If you or anyone else don't like the economic argument of spending so much $$$ for the OG, do you think the IOC committee cares (they chose the host with the most projected cost)??..Just take a look at last yr's (Beijing) OG. Probably one of the costliests and most expensive ever.
It might not make sense to most of us knowing the reality of the cost and after effect of holding such events. Just let RDJ experience it and feel the effects..
Partly also, i think, there's a bit of politics going on with the IOC.
- Yes, the links are easy enough, but not all people will take the time to wait for them to load up or even search them. Even my laptop crashed y'day trying to open up one of the PDF links, which i've read before..:p

- If you or anyone else don't like the economic argument of spending so much $$$ for the OG, do you think the IOC committee cares (they chose the host with the most projected cost)??..Just take a look at last yr's (Beijing) OG. Probably one of the costliests and most expensive ever.
It might not make sense to most of us knowing the reality of the cost and after effect of holding such events. Just let RDJ experience it and feel the effects..
Partly also, i think, there's a bit of politics going on with the IOC.
- Yes, the links are easy enough, but not all people will take the time to wait for them to load up or even search them. Even my laptop crashed y'day trying to open up one of the PDF links, which i've read before..:p
i heard the bird next stadium is sitting empty... rusting away...:D
at least china can afford the OG bling bling.

some, like athen, can't
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1036373/Abandoned-derelict-covered-graffiti-rubbish-What-left-Athens-9billion-Olympic-glory.html

- If you or anyone else don't like the economic argument of spending so much $$$ for the OG, do you think the IOC committee cares (they chose the host with the most projected cost)??..Just take a look at last yr's (Beijing) OG. Probably one of the costliests and most expensive ever.
It might not make sense to most of us knowing the reality of the cost and after effect of holding such events. Just let RDJ experience it and feel the effects..
Partly also, i think, there's a bit of politics going on with the IOC.
- Yes, the links are easy enough, but not all people will take the time to wait for them to load up or even search them. Even my laptop crashed y'day trying to open up one of the PDF links, which i've read before..:p

Well yeah, the Governmental financial support for the games is a key part of the decision making process, It's the question of whether or not the potential positive effects of the games should have any place in the process that I'm questioning. It technically shouldn't, but even chicago brought it up as a reason why they should've been the host city. Personally, I found the idea of bringing the Olympics to South America to be a much more compelling argument.

Politics in the IOC? :eek:

- It's RDJ/Brazil's conundrum. We might not understand the common sense and idea of bringing the OG to Brazil, but hey, they think it'll work (or now they think it's maybe not a good idea). We can question/argue with them abt why bring the OG to Brazil til the cows come home but hey, they want to try it, so...
- Trying to act surprise abt politics in IOC??..:confused:

Yes, cooler, it's a known fact. But since CHN have so much bling-bling-bling-bling, i'm sure they'll find a way to turn it into some other usable/profit making structure/facility. Too bad footie or U.S. football is not a national sporting event for them.

replace the word monorail with olympic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEZjzsnPhnw&feature=PlayList&p=D3D55D46D8DBA7D1&index=0&playnext=1

- It's RDJ/Brazil's conundrum. We might not understand the common sense and idea of bringing the OG to Brazil, but hey, they think it'll work (or now they think it's maybe not a good idea). We can question/argue with them abt why bring the OG to Brazil til the cows come home but hey, they want to try it, so...
- Trying to act surprise abt politics in IOC??..:confused:

Yes, cooler, it's a known fact. But since CHN have so much bling-bling-bling-bling, i'm sure they'll find a way to turn it into some other usable/profit making structure/facility. Too bad footie or U.S. football is not a national sporting event for them.
-Like I said and have said multiple times, I don't object to the idea of bringing it to Brazil, but rather to the economic benefits argument that was used.
-I just fail at internet sarcasm <.<

Lol they'll prolly turn it into a sweatshop making footballs XD

-Like I said and have said multiple times, I don't object to the idea of bringing it to Brazil, but rather to the economic benefits argument that was used.
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many people are probably questioning and object to the economic benefit argument for Brazil to hold the OG, but if they and the IOC committee want it, whatchoo gonna do, whatchoo gonna do when they want it so bad (singing the "Cops" tv show tune)...

there is always a benefit of an olympic game but only for certain group of people and business. Unfortunately, the promo and marketing noise is louder than those people who oppose it. Even the Exxon valdez oil spill disaster benefited the economy alot, it had increased the national GDP.