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chris-ccc
10-29-2009, 05:05 PM
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2009 French Badminton Open - Friday October 30 (Quarter-Finals)

Today, I guess most of us would be paying attention to Olga Konon, the rising star from the West. Olga will be meeting Pi Hongyan from France.

Yesterday, Olga defeated Wang Shixian, a rising star from China.
Results:
Olga KONON (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=5348CDAD-55A6-4A65-B291-F28D50B709CE&player=95)http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/POL.gif[POL] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=5348CDAD-55A6-4A65-B291-F28D50B709CE&c=POL) - http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/CHN.gif[CHN] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=5348CDAD-55A6-4A65-B291-F28D50B709CE&c=CHN)Shixian WANG (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=5348CDAD-55A6-4A65-B291-F28D50B709CE&player=79) 15-21, 21-15, 21-19 in 52 mins

The matches for today will be starting at 4:00pm and are expected to finish at 10:00pm.
Here is the schedule: click here (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=5348CDAD-55A6-4A65-B291-F28D50B709CE&d=20091030)
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dylle
10-29-2009, 05:36 PM
There are so many great mathces tomorrow! Many of the mathces can go either way.
Not an easy round for you PAW'ers.

Of course cheering on Olga tommorow, but she has played many matches - maybe the rising star is a bit tired?

As a dane I'm looking forward to see Peter Gade against Bao Chunlai. I think, if he has the luck, that he can win this one!

Destricto_Ense
10-29-2009, 05:59 PM
6pm, TH vs CL. *takes note*

chris-ccc
10-29-2009, 07:56 PM
6pm, TH vs CL. *takes note*



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Also, watch out for these 2 matches:

Mixed Doubles:
* Hanbin HE [5] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=5348CDAD-55A6-4A65-B291-F28D50B709CE&player=215)http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/CHN.gif[CHN] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=5348CDAD-55A6-4A65-B291-F28D50B709CE&c=CHN) Yang (F) YU (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=5348CDAD-55A6-4A65-B291-F28D50B709CE&player=162)http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/CHN.gif[CHN] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=5348CDAD-55A6-4A65-B291-F28D50B709CE&c=CHN) -vs- http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/DEN.gif[DEN] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=5348CDAD-55A6-4A65-B291-F28D50B709CE&c=DEN)Joachim FISCHER-NIELSEN [4] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=5348CDAD-55A6-4A65-B291-F28D50B709CE&player=217) http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/DEN.gif[DEN] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=5348CDAD-55A6-4A65-B291-F28D50B709CE&c=DEN)Christina PEDERSEN (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=5348CDAD-55A6-4A65-B291-F28D50B709CE&player=218)

Womens Doubles:
* Lena FRIER-KRISTIANSEN [4] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=5348CDAD-55A6-4A65-B291-F28D50B709CE&player=165)http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/DEN.gif[DEN] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=5348CDAD-55A6-4A65-B291-F28D50B709CE&c=DEN) Kamilla RYTTER-JUHL (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=5348CDAD-55A6-4A65-B291-F28D50B709CE&player=164)http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/DEN.gif[DEN] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=5348CDAD-55A6-4A65-B291-F28D50B709CE&c=DEN) -vs- http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/INA.gif[INA] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=5348CDAD-55A6-4A65-B291-F28D50B709CE&c=INA)Nitty Krishinda MAHESWARI [8] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=5348CDAD-55A6-4A65-B291-F28D50B709CE&player=177) http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/INA.gif[INA] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=5348CDAD-55A6-4A65-B291-F28D50B709CE&c=INA)Greysia POLII (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=5348CDAD-55A6-4A65-B291-F28D50B709CE&player=176)
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picachu01
10-29-2009, 08:04 PM
Well,time in Paris is different from countries in Asia. From QF matches, it will be started at 4.00pm (about 10.00pm in Asia and some matches start at midnight), so we are very difficult to watch them... what a pity

Destricto_Ense
10-29-2009, 08:20 PM
Good point. *renotes match as 5pm*

badMania
10-30-2009, 12:49 AM
MS QF
Chen Long vs Taufik Hidayat [4] -- Chen Long has lost some matches which he should have won lately. Let's see if Taufik can capitalise on this.

MD QF
Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan [1] vs Mohd Fairuzizuan Mohd Tazari/Mohd Zakry Abdul Latif [5] -- I hope Kido/Hendra can progress to at least SF.

Bona Septano/Mohd Ahsan vs Mathias Boe/Carsten Mogensen [3] -- it will be a progress if Bona/Ahsan can beat Boe/Moe.

WS QF
Adriyanti Firdasari vs Yao Jie -- both players are unseeded. Firda might have a slight edge.

WD QF
Lena Frier-Kristensen/Kamilla Rytter-Juhl [4] vs Nitya Krishinda Maheswari/Greysia Polii [8] -- let's see if Nitya/Grace can spring another surprise.

XD QF
Kristoff Hopp/Anastasia Russkikh vs Hendra A. Gunawan/Vita Marissa [7] -- AG/Vita should progress to the SF.

V. Diju/Jwala Gutta [6] vs Nova Widianto/Liliyana Natsir [2] -- ditto for Nova/Butet. This could be Nova/Butet's last chance for a title.

danielwong
10-30-2009, 01:15 AM
Prediction for my countrymen:

XD QF
KKK/WPT vs TJM/ZYW [8] --A match that can go either way....CHN is considered a newly forged pair but always look dangerous.....if KKK/WPT can blend well....upset might happen


MD QF
Fuzzy [5] vs MK/HS [1]
too bad Fuzzy is not the same pair that we are proud of...inconsistent being the main reason...slim chance to win....just hope upset might happened as MK/HS is unpredictable sometimes...

KKK/TBH [2] vs NR/AC [7]
on paper KKK/TBH should win...but they tend to lost to lower rank pair....furthermore they lost to the same pair during SO...i predict 50-50...


WD QF
WPT/CEH [1] vs MJ/WXL [5]
unfortunately we knew that the 1st seed will not win this....no need further comment...
hope for miracle....

koo_fan
10-30-2009, 01:30 AM
I guess they have listened to my complaints. :p

kkk/tbh's game is getting earlier than yesterday. great great.

kuwichert
10-30-2009, 02:18 AM
don't forget Olga!!! playing the Lady on her 'second home soil' might not be an easy task, but still good chances since she has nothing to loose:eek:

Nath playing KKK - lets see what happens:confused:

Saina needs - and also deserves:eek: - our full support! She might be the force to break the wall - if Olga can't do it:D

Taufik - just don't fool around - 2 other hard matches're waiting for you:eek:

ctjcad
10-30-2009, 02:21 AM
- Here are the "doozer" matches, meaning matches you guys can skip and take a nap during:

LD vs. JP....1st nap
Wallwork & White vs. Cheng & Zhao..2nd nap

- Here are the "eyes-half-open-half-closed" matches, meaning you guys can open your eyes a bit while still half asleep. Some of 'em might lead to either a "doozer" match or a "eyes wide open" match:

Hopp & Russikh vs. HAG & VM
DV & JG vs. NW & LN
Firdasari vs. YJ
SJJ & TJM vs. GZD & XC
PP & ZYW vs. DJ & YY
MA & BS vs. MB & CM
LFK & KRJ vs. NKM & GP

The rest of the matches not mention, above, are the "eyes wide open" matches:cool:

dylle
10-30-2009, 02:29 AM
Looking forward to see Joachim Persson smash Lin Dan!

kuwichert
10-30-2009, 02:37 AM
- Here are the "doozer" matches, meaning matches you guys can skip and take a nap during:

LD vs. JP....1st nap
Wallwork & White vs. Cheng & Zhao..2nd nap

- Here are the "eyes-half-open-half-closed" matches, meaning you guys can open your eyes a bit while still half asleep. Some of 'em might lead to either a "doozer" match or a "eyes wide open" match:

Hopp & Russikh vs. HAG & VM
DV & JG vs. NW & LN
Firdasari vs. YJ
SJJ & TJM vs. GZD & XC
PP & ZYW vs. DJ & YY
MA & BS vs. MB & CM
LFK & KRJ vs. NKM & GP

The rest of the matches not mention, above, are the "eyes wide open" matches:cool:

thanks, please do complete the list with court and schedule LOL:D:D:D

ctjcad
10-30-2009, 02:51 AM
..the very 1st post above for the schedule. Both of the "doozer" matches, unfortunately, will fall on Court 2.

kuwichert
10-30-2009, 03:16 AM
..the very 1st post above for the schedule. Both of the "doozer" matches, unfortunately, will fall on Court 2.

thought based on your results of investigations you can set up the 'nap schedule' for us:confused:
why 'unfortunately' - is court 2 the court for live stream?
bet365 was switching courts yesterday- is it the same as that 'french open live stream page' is doing, or is it different cam? just found that french open page this morning:eek:
Does anybody know whether they will broadcast live webstream until the end on Sunday, or will they stop earlier as the Dans did:mad:
did anybody check chinese tv channels? that's what we 'out of Astro area' can watch also - if there is no live stream we need that:rolleyes: I still can not read chinese - so no chance for me to check schedule for chinese sports channels since they do have schedules only in chinese availabel :eek:

ctjcad
10-30-2009, 03:23 AM
- Last week's Denmark Open livestream, was a disaster; at least for the U.S. region. So, i thought it ain't getting any better this week.
- Sure enough, no livestream for this French Open. bet365 is also not available for the U.S. region.
- There are more CHN players in this tourney, so there should be a Chinese based channel broadcasting the matches (at last from SF til Finals). But, no confirmation yet on which channel is broadcasting.

..it's okay, if can't watch live or delay, there are always the recorded videos..

Thom_bad
10-30-2009, 04:42 AM
Looking forward to see Joachim Persson smash Lin Dan!


Actually Vittinghus wasn't so ridiculous yesterday, you know..
I expect LD won't whashout the poor Jo'

Dede_Pran
10-30-2009, 10:21 AM
HenVit took 1st game 21-18

Dede_Pran
10-30-2009, 10:23 AM
WoW.....HenVit lead 6-0 in second game
TJM/ZYW lead 1i-11 against KKK/WPT

Dede_Pran
10-30-2009, 10:26 AM
TJM/ZYW took 1st game 21-12 against KKK/WPT
HenVit lead 11-3 in second game interval
NoLin and DijuGutta are on court already..

Dede_Pran
10-30-2009, 10:29 AM
TJM/ZYW 2-5 in second game
HenVit lead 17-8 in second game
wow NoLin trailing 0-7

nunu27
10-30-2009, 10:31 AM
oohh... NoLin in trouble!!!
semangat!!!

badMania
10-30-2009, 10:31 AM
Hendra A. Gunawan/Vita Marissa become the first XD pair to reach the SF after a straight-set easy victory.

Meanwhile, Nova/Butet are currently getting mauled...1-11 in the first set.

Dede_Pran
10-30-2009, 10:32 AM
TJM/ZYW 5-9 in second game
HenVit won over Hopp/Russkikh 21-18 21-9 in 27 mins.
what happen to NoLin trailing 1-11 (10 points gap)

nunu27
10-30-2009, 10:32 AM
2nd game was too easy for Vita.
they won the match..congrats Vita-Hen

exalted
10-30-2009, 10:35 AM
Sorry to maybe ask an obvious question, but is there any place where one can watch a stream online? I know about the official French website, but that seems to lag and not really be stable.

Really want to catch the LD - Persson game -.-

Dede_Pran
10-30-2009, 10:36 AM
does it prove that NoLin should be no longer paired?? losing easily first game 6-21 in just 8 mins.

nunu27
10-30-2009, 10:38 AM
hope nolin will do better in the next game.
semangat!!

Dede_Pran
10-30-2009, 10:40 AM
WoW TJM/ZYW taking over the lead 15-14 in second game..
NoLin 2-4

nunu27
10-30-2009, 10:40 AM
cant stand to wait Firda play. if she won, it might her first semifinal in SS. (CMIIW).

Dede_Pran
10-30-2009, 10:40 AM
WoW TJM/ZYW leveled by 15 all in second game..
NoLin 2-4

Dede_Pran
10-30-2009, 10:41 AM
WoW TJM/ZYW leveled by 16 all in second game..
NoLin 4-6

yen_saw
10-30-2009, 10:43 AM
Sorry to maybe ask an obvious question, but is there any place where one can watch a stream online? I know about the official French website, but that seems to lag and not really be stable.

Really want to catch the LD - Persson game -.-

http://www.ifbyonex.com/VideoStreaming.html?wpid=40504

But terrible angle.....

Dede_Pran
10-30-2009, 10:43 AM
WoW TJM/ZYW almost close the match, leading 19-16 in second game..
NoLin 7all

Dede_Pran
10-30-2009, 10:43 AM
WoW TJM/ZYW at MP 20-16
NoLin 8 all

Dede_Pran
10-30-2009, 10:45 AM
TJM/ZYW won over KKK/WPT 21-12 21-17
NoLin 10 all

george@chongwei
10-30-2009, 10:49 AM
haiya, kkk/wpt lost?:(

yen_saw
10-30-2009, 10:49 AM
The crowd certainly loves underdog.... crowd applaud loudly to Joachim's introduction

yen_saw
10-30-2009, 10:50 AM
thank god now it is focusing on LD vd JP court

george@chongwei
10-30-2009, 10:51 AM
The crowd certainly loves underdog.... crowd applaud loudly to Joachim's introduction
The crowd there in the arena certainly loves JP i would said..;)

george@chongwei
10-30-2009, 10:52 AM
What happen to Butet/Natsir in the 1st set??:eek:
the scoreline is unbelievable!

freelast
10-30-2009, 10:53 AM
thanks guys for posting live updates here. please add more comments if possible.

I thought 3 out of 4 XD quarter finals are one-sided. The HHB/YY vs JN/CP is hard to predict because both are good.

pauline
10-30-2009, 10:54 AM
wow, quaterfinals started so late.... anyway, LD and JP on court now.

freelast
10-30-2009, 10:56 AM
did Nolin manage to escape the slaughtering? please post the live updates here.

nunu27
10-30-2009, 10:57 AM
ppfffiiuuuhhhh.... heart attack match on 2nd game ..finally nlin forced rubber..hhhh

Dede_Pran
10-30-2009, 10:57 AM
Oouufh.....NoLin could seal second game 22-20, come on NoLin!!!

badadum
10-30-2009, 10:57 AM
did Nolin manage to escape the slaughtering? please post the live updates here.

just barely...won 2nd set 22-20, proceeding to rubber...

george@chongwei
10-30-2009, 11:00 AM
Wow pearson leading lin dan 8-7 now!:p

simonlovers
10-30-2009, 11:01 AM
Wow pearson leading lin dan 8-7 now!:p
and Lin Dan lead again 9-8 now..:D

freelast
10-30-2009, 11:03 AM
just barely...won 2nd set 22-20, proceeding to rubber...

thanks. it is thrilling.

**KZ**
10-30-2009, 11:03 AM
persson is playing not bad today....what a surprise....=)

george@chongwei
10-30-2009, 11:04 AM
wow, neck to neck between JP and LD it looks like:p

Dede_Pran
10-30-2009, 11:04 AM
wow NoLin come back, leading comfortably 11-4 at last game interval
LD 11-10 JP
Firda 6-4 YaoJie

Dede_Pran
10-30-2009, 11:05 AM
NoLin 13-7
LD 12-10 JP
Firda 11-4 YaoJie

Dede_Pran
10-30-2009, 11:06 AM
NoLin 14-7
LD 12-12 JP
Firda 11-4 YaoJie

pauline
10-30-2009, 11:06 AM
LD& JP tied at 12-12

Dede_Pran
10-30-2009, 11:07 AM
NoLin 17-7
LD 12-14 JP
Firda 11-6 YaoJie

simonlovers
10-30-2009, 11:08 AM
LD& JP tied at 12-12
Joachim lead 14-13..pheww..

george@chongwei
10-30-2009, 11:08 AM
pearson leading 14-12 now.
the french crowd must be backing on him now:)

Dede_Pran
10-30-2009, 11:08 AM
seems NoLin taking revenge of first game 18-7
LD 12-14 JP
Firda 12-6 YaoJie

**KZ**
10-30-2009, 11:08 AM
how to watch??? wanna watch JP....

freelast
10-30-2009, 11:08 AM
i think LD tends to play controling until reach 15 point. If he loses 15 points, then he begins to smash. Let's see if i'm right.

simonlovers
10-30-2009, 11:10 AM
wow..JP lead 3 points..

**KZ**
10-30-2009, 11:10 AM
yes....watching

Dede_Pran
10-30-2009, 11:10 AM
NoLin finally won after being killed in first game 6-21 22-20 21-10
LD 14-17 JP
Firda 14-11 YaoJie

**KZ**
10-30-2009, 11:10 AM
the vid is laggy though...better than not watching anythin =)

koo_fan
10-30-2009, 11:11 AM
I hope, i hope, Joachim Persson will steal the first set. Please, God!

etudiant
10-30-2009, 11:11 AM
impressive performance from NoLyn.......what hppnd to Super Dan....and go Firda

Dede_Pran
10-30-2009, 11:12 AM
LD levels 17all JP
Firda 16-13 YaoJie

Dede_Pran
10-30-2009, 11:12 AM
LD 18all JP
Firda 18-13 YaoJie

Dede_Pran
10-30-2009, 11:13 AM
here it is the match of the day (in my opinion) between Fischer/Pedersen and He/Yu

george@chongwei
10-30-2009, 11:14 AM
wow..its 19 al now..unbelievable!:eek:

george@chongwei
10-30-2009, 11:15 AM
lin dan game point now:p

george@chongwei
10-30-2009, 11:15 AM
At last LD took the 1st game 21-19;)

Dede_Pran
10-30-2009, 11:15 AM
LD 21-19 JP
Firda took first game 21-18 YaoJie

winzerer
10-30-2009, 11:16 AM
Yes firda took the first set

simonlovers
10-30-2009, 11:16 AM
Firda, please..
hope you don't waste 2 game points..
aah..fortunately..she did it..

kharissmiley
10-30-2009, 11:16 AM
Come On Firda... Beat Yao Jie... :P

pauline
10-30-2009, 11:16 AM
aiya...JP just lost his chance to steal a game from the king of badminton.

george@chongwei
10-30-2009, 11:17 AM
firda took 1st set 21-18:)

**KZ**
10-30-2009, 11:18 AM
LD won again...when is he gonna retire? getting soo booring...lol

badMania
10-30-2009, 11:18 AM
Nova Widianto/Liliyana Natsir also progress to the SF after they survived a 3-setter match against V. Diju/Jwala Gutta.

freelast
10-30-2009, 11:19 AM
wow..its 19 al now..unbelievable!:eek:

nothing unbelievable :rolleyes: Lin Dan now changed his strategy, he used to smash from the begining. That was the reason he won easily before, now he likes to play controling, combined with different shots, drops, long, short, left, right, if that works, he will not smash. If that doesn't work, he will use his smash after losing 15 points. Of course, that sometime not working well if unforced errors are committed.

george@chongwei
10-30-2009, 11:22 AM
nothing unbelievable :rolleyes: Lin Dan now changed his strategy, he used to smash from the begining. That was the reason he won easily before, now he likes to play controling, combined with different shots, drops, long, short, left, right, if that works, he will not smash. If that doesn't work, he will use his smash after losing 15 points. Of course, that sometime not working well if unforced errors are committed.
yep, so based on your theory, it is up to him whether to win or lose a match?:D

winzerer
10-30-2009, 11:24 AM
JP run out of gas

ye333
10-30-2009, 11:25 AM
Unfortunately that's what many people believe nowadays...

For some opponents, LD decides to start smashing after losing 10 points; For some others, after losing 15 points; For Persson today, after losing 19 points; For a few strong opponents, LD may decide to start smashing after losing one game. Yep. It's all up to LD. :D:D


yep, so based on your theory, it is up to him whether to win or lose a match?:D

ye333
10-30-2009, 11:26 AM
Usually LD would up the pace at the beginning of the 2nd game, regardless of the outcome of the 1st.


JP run out of gas

press100
10-30-2009, 11:27 AM
LD won again...when is he gonna retire? getting soo booring...lol

After winning second Olympic Gold medal in London 2012...;)

george@chongwei
10-30-2009, 11:30 AM
yao jie is leading now..looks like something is really fishy though:p

freelast
10-30-2009, 11:30 AM
yep, so based on your theory, it is up to him whether to win or lose a match?:D

no. that's a misunderstanding. I don't have the theory which Taufik invented "he always wins if he wants to". :rolleyes:

I think LD always wants to win. but he uses different strategy now. If you noticed, you should find that LD has improved a lot in front court skills, net technologies and overall abilities. That's the reason he changed his strategy.

If he had used this current strategy a couple years ago. It would not have worked. Simply because that time, he's not that super at the net, he has to smash all the way to win.

Now, with better skills, he wants to save energy and also reserved his smash as sudden weapon to kill his opponent, so no matter what strategy he is using, I believe he always want to win.
:D

kharissmiley
10-30-2009, 11:33 AM
Ayo Firda..Semangat...!!

george@chongwei
10-30-2009, 11:33 AM
I think he badly wants to win the french open this time:)

badadum
10-30-2009, 11:34 AM
Firda might not have much left for 3rd game.....

george@chongwei
10-30-2009, 11:34 AM
yao jie game point now.

george@chongwei
10-30-2009, 11:35 AM
meanwhile..hhb/yy leading 18-16 now:p

kharissmiley
10-30-2009, 11:35 AM
Go Firda...!! Keep Fighting..Take the 3rd game...!!

**KZ**
10-30-2009, 11:36 AM
good game by persson...though LD doesn't seem to be feeling like playing today....

ye333
10-30-2009, 11:37 AM
He changed his strategy because he could not "smash from the start to the end" game after game anymore. So he has to use his smashes much more cleverly these days. This change actually started in 2005.


no. that's a misunderstanding. I don't have the theory which Taufik invented "he always wins if he wants to". :rolleyes:

I think LD always wants to win. but he uses different strategy now. If you noticed, you should find that LD has improved a lot in front court skills, net technologies and overall abilities. That's the reason he changed his strategy.

If he had used this current strategy a couple years ago. It would not have worked. Simply because that time, he's not that super at the net, he has to smash all the way to win.

Now, with better skills, he wants to save energy and also reserved his smash as sudden weapon to kill his opponent, so no matter what strategy he is using, I believe he always want to win.
:D

ye333
10-30-2009, 11:38 AM
There is TV broadcast? :confused::confused:


good game by persson...though LD doesn't seem to be feeling like playing today....

george@chongwei
10-30-2009, 11:38 AM
finally lin dan took the game in 2 sets.
Yao jie manage to force the game to rubber set.
HHB/YY won the 1st set 21-17;)

volcom
10-30-2009, 11:41 AM
He changed his strategy because he could not "smash from the start to the end" game after game anymore. So he has to use his smashes much more cleverly these days. This change actually started in 2005.
:rolleyes:
It is better for him to outplay and exhaust his hopeless opponents first before slaughtering them.
He realised this more after 07, where his netplay began to improve and others began to have no chance.
Very smart and conserves energy unlike others like LCW who will run out of gas very soon, if not already beginning to self-combust.

volcom
10-30-2009, 11:42 AM
yep, so based on your theory, it is up to him whether to win or lose a match?:D
Against lower tier opponents absolutely.

ye333
10-30-2009, 11:47 AM
LCW, when playing lesser opponents, uses the same strategy.

Others usually have many chances to smash, but the problem is their smash cannot penetrate LD/LCW's defence.


:rolleyes:
It is better for him to outplay and exhaust his hopeless opponents first before slaughtering them.
He realised this more after 07, where his netplay began to improve and others began to have no chance.
Very smart and conserves energy unlike others like LCW who will run out of gas very soon, if not already beginning to self-combust.

volcom
10-30-2009, 11:50 AM
LCW, when playing lesser opponents, uses the same strategy.

Others usually have many chances to smash, but the problem is their smash cannot penetrate LD/LCW's defence.
Against lesser players, LCW just all out pummells them with his speed and smash, which he cannot apply to same tier players.
You don't usually see LD with similar scorelines against lesser players like LCW who gets like 21-5 whilst LD gets 21-14 etc.

freelast
10-30-2009, 11:54 AM
i think LD tends to play controling until reach 15 point. If he loses 15 points, then he begins to smash. Let's see if i'm right.

I just checked the stats, LD only had 2 successful smashes in the 1st game, while got 10 smash winner after that.

**KZ**
10-30-2009, 11:54 AM
yao jie seems to be out of form for a long time....but she did well today

freelast
10-30-2009, 11:55 AM
what about the other live scores?

KidSet should be playing with the fuzzy pair now...

etudiant
10-30-2009, 11:56 AM
damn.....Firda's syndrome........after beating higher ranked and lost immediately in the next round to the lesser ranked opponents.........what a fall down

simonlovers
10-30-2009, 11:56 AM
Yao Jie beat Firdasari..

if other player, get a lot of confidence after beat seeded player

no more suprise if she will be like this next time..

she never learn...

freelast
10-30-2009, 12:01 PM
yao jie seems to be out of form for a long time....but she did well today


training is important. I think Yao Jie was busy with her wedding or other stuff for a while, now she's back in normal training.

Thinking about her age also. She's 4.5 years older than Xie Xinfang.

badadum
10-30-2009, 12:05 PM
Pretty fast game by MK/HS...closing 1st set 21-11 in 9m.

tommy_bun
10-30-2009, 12:05 PM
Looking at Firda's performance..I think I have to rethink if I want to paw her...Its the second time after beating top player then playing under performance

freelast
10-30-2009, 12:05 PM
now, it's 2 INA vs 2 CHN in the XD semis, any predictions, please?

the XD is the most unpredictable event in badminton...

bradja23
10-30-2009, 12:06 PM
Jie Yao is a match stealer. Always trailing behind, no strong shots, not smashing a lot, but so hard to beat.
Very experienced and frustrating player...

kuwichert
10-30-2009, 12:07 PM
ok folks, Taufik time now! :cool:
let's cheer the one and only now :D:D:D

freelast
10-30-2009, 12:07 PM
Looking at Firda's performance..I think I have to rethink if I want to paw her...Its the second time after beating top player then playing under performance

now you figure out the pattern, so next time, paw her in the first match, if she wins a top player, then give up her immediately.

simonlovers
10-30-2009, 12:07 PM
Looking at Firda's performance..I think I have to rethink if I want to paw her...Its the second time after beating top player then playing under performance
yeah..good decision...:)

etudiant
10-30-2009, 12:08 PM
now, it's 2 INA vs 2 CHN in the XD semis, any predictions, please?

the XD is the most unpredictable event in badminton...

of course I would like to be all Ina final.........but looking at current condition, I'm not so sure.....its good enough to have 1 pair in final.....

badMania
10-30-2009, 12:09 PM
Well, it's expected for Firda. Once the match lasted 3 sets, it's unlikely she will win, esp if the opponent can still keep the pace.

etudiant
10-30-2009, 12:09 PM
Jie Yao is a match stealer. Always trailing behind, no strong shots, not smashing a lot, but so hard to beat.
Very experienced and frustrating player...

yes indeed.........she's more like counter-attack player..........

badMania
10-30-2009, 12:12 PM
A better performance from Fuzzy in the second-set.

tommy_bun
10-30-2009, 12:12 PM
yeah..good decision...:)



now you figure out the pattern, so next time, paw her in the first match, if she wins a top player, then give up her immediately.

I will give her one more chance...hope she doesnt disappoint me next time :p:D

bradja23
10-30-2009, 12:13 PM
yes indeed.........she's more like counter-attack player..........

She reminds me Gilles Simon, if some of you know about his tennis style. :D

badMania
10-30-2009, 12:14 PM
of course I would like to be all Ina final.........but looking at current condition, I'm not so sure.....its good enough to have 1 pair in final.....

We might not even have an INA rep in the Final, given Nova/Butet's vulnerability and AG/Vita's stage fright during crucial moments.

kuwichert
10-30-2009, 12:14 PM
A better performance from Fuzzy in the second-set.

but for short time only:mad:

simonlovers
10-30-2009, 12:16 PM
I will give her one more chance...hope she doesnt disappoint me next time :p:D
as what i've said to Firda :
"when you will learn ?"...:p

etudiant
10-30-2009, 12:16 PM
She reminds me Gilles Simon, if some of you know about his tennis style. :D

or Wozniacki in womens game........:rolleyes:

badMania
10-30-2009, 12:16 PM
Fuzzy manages to get level the scores to 10-10, only to find Kido/Hendra surging ahead yet again to 18 in no time. Now, they manage to close the gap back to 2 pts...17-19.

tommy_bun
10-30-2009, 12:16 PM
Cmon 2 Chens........

bradja23
10-30-2009, 12:16 PM
Yun Hu at game point ! 20-18

tommy_bun
10-30-2009, 12:17 PM
as what i've said to Firda :
"when you will learn ?"...:p
Experience is the best teacher....:p:D

ye333
10-30-2009, 12:17 PM
That's not true. Just watch LCW vs CL (where he won 21:16, 21:9). Most of the times LCW is simply using his defence to frustrate CL.

LD did 21:3 to BCL... :D


Against lesser players, LCW just all out pummells them with his speed and smash, which he cannot apply to same tier players.
You don't usually see LD with similar scorelines against lesser players like LCW who gets like 21-5 whilst LD gets 21-14 etc.

Destricto_Ense
10-30-2009, 12:17 PM
So there is no streaming of the Taufik game? :(

etudiant
10-30-2009, 12:17 PM
as what i've said to Firda :
"when you will learn ?"...:p

or ''what was in your mind'' after letting all that huge lead gone wasted......

badMania
10-30-2009, 12:17 PM
An efficient performance from Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan as they beat Fairuz/Zakry in just 21 mins...21-11, 21-17.

When can Rian/Yoke learn from them.....sigh.....

kuwichert
10-30-2009, 12:18 PM
Cmon 2 Chens........

C_mon, chen's go shopping!:D
Taufik Taufik! Yeau, Hu got first game too, great!:eek:

simonlovers
10-30-2009, 12:19 PM
An efficient performance from Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan as they beat Fairuz/Zakry in just 21 mins...21-11, 21-17.

When can Rian/Yoke learn from them.....sigh.....
topic of this night : LEARN !!:D:D

badMania
10-30-2009, 12:20 PM
topic of this night : LEARN !!:D:D

Some players just never learn from their defeats. Firda and Rian/Yoke are among those.

badMania
10-30-2009, 12:20 PM
How the heck did Chen Jin lose the first set just now??? I wasn't paying attention to the scores. I thought he had a comfortable lead just now :eek:

bradja23
10-30-2009, 12:21 PM
Yun Hu on his way to give a lesson to Chinese players.
CJ first, LD tomorrow :D

simonlovers
10-30-2009, 12:21 PM
Yun Hu on his way to give a lesson to Chinese players.
CJ first, LD tomorrow :D
not yet bradja, not yet...

simonlovers
10-30-2009, 12:23 PM
Some players just never learn from their defeats. Firda and Rian/Yoke are among those.
I'll add Shendy/Meilina because never learn from their lost to Maeda/Suetsuna..

badmintex
10-30-2009, 12:23 PM
That's not true. Just watch LCW vs CL (where he won 21:16, 21:9). Most of the times LCW is simply using his defence to frustrate CL.

LD did 21:3 to BCL... :D

also to Lee Hyun Ill 21-3 in a Korea Open which Lin dan lost in decider set.

kuwichert
10-30-2009, 12:23 PM
not yet bradja, not yet...

but hopefully soon!:eek:

bradja23
10-30-2009, 12:23 PM
not yet bradja, not yet...

Maybe CJ was just amusing in the first set. But it would be a terrific revenge for Yun Hu.

freelast
10-30-2009, 12:25 PM
Xu HW, Yao Jie, Pi Hong Yan... were not in the national team when they were in China, and Pi once was in the junior team. The reason were the same, they didn't have powerful smashes. Hundreds of players like them in China retired young with nothing.

But they managed to migrate to the other countries. After several tideous and frastrating years, they begin to shine at world badminton circle even though they had been quite old by that time.

so were Wang Chen and Zhou Mi, the differences here is that both Wang Chen and Zhou Mi were in the national team before.

kuwichert
10-30-2009, 12:26 PM
Hu's doing well and Taufik also starts playing now, hopefully he stops fooling around!

ye333
10-30-2009, 12:26 PM
In Korean open it's 21:4. It's 06AG LD beat LHI 21:3.


also to Lee Hyun Ill 21-3 in a Korea Open which Lin dan lost in decider set.

whack_d_net
10-30-2009, 12:26 PM
C'mon Taufik and Taufik's wannabe! :):)

simonlovers
10-30-2009, 12:27 PM
C'mon Taufik and Taufik's wannabe! :):)
who's Taufik's wannabe ?

bradja23
10-30-2009, 12:27 PM
Please tell me you won't all cheer for cute Olga. :D
Come on Pi !

Destricto_Ense
10-30-2009, 12:27 PM
Who is playing on the near court here? It looks like Taufik to me but the scoring pattern in the game doesn't really reflect what I'm seeing on tournamentsoftware. Maybe one of them is way out of sync. http://www.ifbyonex.com/VideoStreaming.html?wpid=40504

simonlovers
10-30-2009, 12:29 PM
Please tell me you won't all cheer for cute Olga. :D
Come on Pi !
relax bradja, i'm in your side..:D

kuwichert
10-30-2009, 12:29 PM
Xu HW, Yao Jie, Pi Hong Yan... were not in the national team when they were in China, and Pi once was in the junior team. The reason were the same, they didn't have powerful smashes. Hundreds of players like them in China retired young with nothing.

But they managed to migrate to the other countries. After several tideous and frastrating years, they begin to shine at world badminton circle even though they had been quite old by that time.

so were Wang Chen and Zhou Mi, the differences here is that both Wang Chen and Zhou Mi were in the national team before.

what do you wanna tell us:confused:

kuwichert
10-30-2009, 12:30 PM
ok - folks, now here we go: Olga Olga Olga
Taufik Taufik Taufik

bradja23
10-30-2009, 12:30 PM
relax bradja, i'm in your side..:D

I can see Olga's PAWers staring at us suspiciously. :D

freelast
10-30-2009, 12:31 PM
who's Taufik's wannabe ?

might refering to Hu Yun, who looks like Taufik

I predicted yesterday that CJ vs HY would not be easy, even though LD just beat HY easily at the national games.

freelast
10-30-2009, 12:33 PM
what do you wanna tell us:confused:

it's clear those Chinese players in Europe are not good at smashing, but hard to beat, therefore, they are all match stealers. We are talking about match stealers. :D

simonlovers
10-30-2009, 12:34 PM
I can see Olga's PAWers staring at us suspiciously. :D
Huh..
Lets staring at them suspiciously too...:p

Destricto_Ense
10-30-2009, 12:36 PM
Come. On. Taufik.

Destricto_Ense
10-30-2009, 12:36 PM
Yes! 20-20. You can do it!

volcom
10-30-2009, 12:37 PM
That's not true. Just watch LCW vs CL (where he won 21:16, 21:9). Most of the times LCW is simply using his defence to frustrate CL.

LD did 21:3 to BCL... :D


Chen Long is another one of those tall players who is no where near the ability of LD, and likes to attack even though his attack is much weaker than even of Chen Yu.

BCL is not low level :D

Destricto_Ense
10-30-2009, 12:38 PM
\o/ 22-20 to Taufik

b0urg301s13
10-30-2009, 12:38 PM
yes...come on darling...one more to go

kuwichert
10-30-2009, 12:39 PM
Taufik got first game already, just a little overtime:D
Olga Olga Olga - folks pls cheer the underdog in this match, we need the cutier one tomorrow :cool:

bradja23
10-30-2009, 12:40 PM
Taufik got first game already, just a little overtime:D
Olga Olga Olga - folks pls cheer the underdog in this match, we need the cutier one tomorrow :cool:

Hongyan is the cuter one !
Don't listen to him Hongyan, focus on your game . :D

simonlovers
10-30-2009, 12:40 PM
Taufik got first game already, just a little overtime:D
Olga Olga Olga - folks pls cheer the underdog in this match, we need the cutier one tomorrow :cool:
yeah, but we need Local's Hope too..
:D

kuwichert
10-30-2009, 12:41 PM
great body smash by Olga, c'mon Olga, go go go

press100
10-30-2009, 12:41 PM
Come on Hu Yun, come on Taufik, Come on Olga...

kuwichert
10-30-2009, 12:42 PM
yeah, but we need Local's Hope too..
:D

not really, Taufik is still there - that's enough for them:eek: they do cheer him even more than the Lady :D

kuwichert
10-30-2009, 12:44 PM
Hu Yun's still alive :eek: C'mon, its Chen's shopping night!:D:D:D:D

kuwichert
10-30-2009, 12:44 PM
Olga Olga, seems she can even get the first game, no rubber needed may be LOL

bradja23
10-30-2009, 12:45 PM
15-13 keep going Pi, she's just behind

badmintex
10-30-2009, 12:45 PM
In Korean open it's 21:4. It's 06AG LD beat LHI 21:3.

Yes,you are correct for the score of LD vs LHI. Thanks for the corection.:p

kuwichert
10-30-2009, 12:46 PM
yeah, Olga Olga Olga, even long rallies look good, make her tiered:D

kuwichert
10-30-2009, 12:47 PM
Amazing come back , Hu Hu Hu!!!!

freelast
10-30-2009, 12:47 PM
what are the live scores?

kuwichert
10-30-2009, 12:49 PM
18 18 Olga go go go

simonlovers
10-30-2009, 12:49 PM
Amazing come back , Hu Hu Hu!!!!
Yun ! YUn ! Yun !
Nyuunn...(hahaha...)

bradja23
10-30-2009, 12:49 PM
19-18 time to show experience please...

badadum
10-30-2009, 12:49 PM
Haha, kuwichert is definitely Olga #1 fans :D

kuwichert
10-30-2009, 12:50 PM
Olga still alive in 1st game 20 all

bradja23
10-30-2009, 12:51 PM
21-20 2nd game point Pi !

press100
10-30-2009, 12:51 PM
Wow so tight Olga vs Pi...

kuwichert
10-30-2009, 12:52 PM
game point Olga!

bradja23
10-30-2009, 12:52 PM
22 all , time to decide girls :D

press100
10-30-2009, 12:52 PM
Olga, please take the 1st game!!!

kuwichert
10-30-2009, 12:52 PM
Olga don't worry, 30-29 still ok LOL:eek:

press100
10-30-2009, 12:53 PM
Bye2 Hu Yun.......

bradja23
10-30-2009, 12:53 PM
Pi 24-23 there you go !

simonlovers
10-30-2009, 12:54 PM
game point Olga!
Pi save it..
just remember Febe-Hongyan match in Indonesia Open this year..
it was so amazing, so many deuce..but finally Febe take 1st game..

kuwichert
10-30-2009, 12:54 PM
OK Olga, a rubber is needed, no problem I hope

bradja23
10-30-2009, 12:54 PM
25-23 easy first game :D

**KZ**
10-30-2009, 12:54 PM
damn....olga lost 1st game!!

press100
10-30-2009, 12:54 PM
No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dede_Pran
10-30-2009, 12:55 PM
Lady Pi vs Olga match makes me got heart-attack at the moment, but finally Pi could seal first game 25-23, hope lady Pi won't waste any point...

simonlovers
10-30-2009, 12:55 PM
No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

kuwichert
10-30-2009, 12:55 PM
one chen enough tomorrow, Taufik's cruising away now, Taufik Taufik:eek:
And now folks, come on! Olga Olga Olga:D

The chan
10-30-2009, 12:55 PM
lets pray 4 taufik 2 beat chen long........!! go taufik..!!!

simonlovers
10-30-2009, 12:56 PM
one chen enough tomorrow, Taufik's cruising away now, Taufik Taufik:eek:
And now folks, come on! Olga Olga Olga:D
HOngyan Hongyan Hongyan :p

press100
10-30-2009, 12:57 PM
Here Saina come. Go Saina Go!!!

press100
10-30-2009, 12:58 PM
Support Saina also, please...

freelast
10-30-2009, 12:58 PM
wow, Chen Jin got 47 smash winners according to the stats. He must be very tired for the semi...

simonlovers
10-30-2009, 12:58 PM
Wang Lin
Wang Lin
Go..Go..Go..

Here Saina come. Go Saina Go!!!

kuwichert
10-30-2009, 01:00 PM
Olgaaaaaaaa! c'mon! do it again! go go go

and Sainaaaaaaa! go go go,

bradja23
10-30-2009, 01:00 PM
7-3 lady Pi, come on !

kuwichert
10-30-2009, 01:01 PM
Taufik!!!!!!!!! stop fooling! close it now!

simonlovers
10-30-2009, 01:01 PM
7-3 lady Pi, come on !
ooh..Olga chase..
7-4 now..

press100
10-30-2009, 01:02 PM
Hope Olga's gas tank will enough for 2nd game...

simonlovers
10-30-2009, 01:02 PM
Taufik!!!!!!!!! stop fooling! close it now!
yes..he heard you...
congratz kuwichert and Taufik..

Destricto_Ense
10-30-2009, 01:03 PM
Well done TH .

kuwichert
10-30-2009, 01:03 PM
Taufik well done, 21-15 CL, just wait , you can go shopping with WL soon!

simonlovers
10-30-2009, 01:04 PM
Hope Olga's gas tank will enough for 2nd game...
Hope Hongyan win it straight set..
she need more power to destroy CHN's Great Wall
;)

kuwichert
10-30-2009, 01:05 PM
Olga Olga Olga!!!! :eek: still possible!

Sainaaa!! think about Chen waiting for Wang now!:D:D:D
may be the Lady gets time to show them the city LOL:cool:
Olgaaaaaaaaa!:eek:

bradja23
10-30-2009, 01:06 PM
ooh..Olga chase..
7-4 now..

12-6
Come onnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

freelast
10-30-2009, 01:06 PM
wow, i predicted LD, CJ and TH to win, and they were all true, now for the last one BCL vs PG, I predicted BCL. Let's see how this goes.

bradja23
10-30-2009, 01:07 PM
Chen Long- Wang Lin are together ?

philes
10-30-2009, 01:11 PM
http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=5348CDAD-55A6-4A65-B291-F28D50B709CE&d=20091030

Click on view live score to the right
of the screen when the website opens

simonlovers
10-30-2009, 01:11 PM
It's 01.00 A.M in Indonesia..and now October, 31..
Happy Hallowen..:D

press100
10-30-2009, 01:11 PM
I think that Olga's dream for SF will stop here. Try again next time...:(

kuwichert
10-30-2009, 01:11 PM
Chen Long- Wang Lin are together ?

yep - tonight in the shopping centre:eek: or on the plane already

Dede_Pran
10-30-2009, 01:12 PM
it's 19-9 for Lady Pi.....lucky me to not paw on Olga and Chen Long, now i can sleep tight, gudnite buddies...

bradja23
10-30-2009, 01:13 PM
You did it Hongyan ! Semi-final is going to be really hard.

kuwichert
10-30-2009, 01:13 PM
ok Olga, well done, let the lady enjoy the home crowd a little longer

kuwichert
10-30-2009, 01:14 PM
Peter Peter!
Sainaaaaaaaa!

bradja23
10-30-2009, 01:16 PM
yep - tonight in the shopping centre:eek: or on the plane already

If Saina also takes 2nd set, WL can have a walk on the Champs-Elysées at 8 PM :D

kuwichert
10-30-2009, 01:16 PM
lotta boring games coming up on live stream now :-(

press100
10-30-2009, 01:16 PM
Time to sleep. Bye...

kuwichert
10-30-2009, 01:18 PM
Peter's coming back, that looks good!:eek:
Saina's having a bad start in second game, Saiiinaaaaaaaa! com on!:cool:

simonlovers
10-30-2009, 01:20 PM
For my friends in Europe who still watch this match..
Keep supporting your favorite players...

It's time to sleep..

freelast
10-30-2009, 01:22 PM
what's the score for PG-BCL? and WL-SN

freelast
10-30-2009, 01:24 PM
to those going to sleep, please let me whom you wanna support, I will be here chanting for you...

simonlovers
10-30-2009, 01:32 PM
to those going to sleep, please let me whom you wanna support, I will be here chanting for you...
Jenny/Gabriele :D
Nitya/Greysia ;)
Clark/Robertson:p
bye2 All..

wang.cly
10-30-2009, 01:32 PM
Report Lu Lan Vs Wang Yihan match please.....
Coz i have to go to sleep right now. thanks before..
Can't to know the result of this match.

bradja23
10-30-2009, 01:35 PM
Gade 21-15 2-6 in 2nd set.
WL 6-4 Saina in rubber

freelast
10-30-2009, 01:36 PM
Jenny/Gabriele :D
Nitya/Greysia ;)
Clark/Robertson:p
bye2 All..

none of them is easy, you like underdogs.

anyway, I will take care of them for you, go to sleep, have a sweet dream, and listen to the good news tomorrow.

kuwichert
10-30-2009, 01:37 PM
Peter Peter Peter!!!
Saiiiiiinaaaaaaaaaa!!!!

freelast
10-30-2009, 01:37 PM
Gade 21-15 2-6 in 2nd set.
WL 6-4 Saina in rubber

thanks, it seems Gade is in good form.

Saina has the experience dogfighting WL

cooler
10-30-2009, 01:39 PM
thanks, it seems Gade is in good form.

Saina has the experience dogfighting WL

mean bao rises when the heat is on:p
that's what they say...

freelast
10-30-2009, 01:42 PM
mean bao rises when the heat is on:p
that's what they say...

what the heat? the weather temperature or the room temperature. Bao won before here in Europe early this year, the Germany open, that time, it was still cold.

kuwichert
10-30-2009, 01:42 PM
folks full support for Peter and much better looking girls now!
Peter, Peter,
Sainaaaaaa! go go go
Jenny, Jenny Jenny

cooler
10-30-2009, 01:49 PM
what the heat? the weather temperature or the room temperature. Bao won before here in Europe early this year, the Germany open, that time, it was still cold.

in chinese, 'mean bao' means bread.
Bread dough rises with heat:)

kuwichert
10-30-2009, 01:52 PM
ohoh, Peter plays the rubber now, Saina goes shopping - what a pity, We#re loosing all the cuties today:mad: Jenny and Gabrielle also in trouble, but still alive:eek:

kuwichert
10-30-2009, 01:52 PM
Peter Peter, good start now! go go go

bradja23
10-30-2009, 01:53 PM
Lu Lan- Yihan Wang, I predict a 22-20 victory in the rubber but I don't know who will win. :D

freelast
10-30-2009, 01:53 PM
in chinese, 'mean bao' means bread.
Bread dough rises with heat:)

too complicated logic. I thought Bao was a fish :eek: intead of bread...

aulia
10-30-2009, 01:55 PM
whooaa... just wake up. :D:D

Firda is Miss QuarterFinal eh? :P:P
http://mega.xtremenitro.org/bigonion/smiley/A_009.gif (http://xtremenitro.org)

Congrats Taufik!
http://mega.xtremenitro.org/bigonion/smiley/A_032.gif (http://xtremenitro.org)

Haizz... still long time for BoSan and GeNit pair...:D:D

kuwichert
10-30-2009, 01:56 PM
Lu Lan- Yihan Wang, I predict a 22-20 victory in the rubber but I don't know who will win. :D

yeah, and nobody cares:D

cooler
10-30-2009, 01:56 PM
too complicated logic. I thought Bao was a fish :eek: intead of bread...anyway, it looks like the heat is too much now, bao seen to be well baked right now. :D

dunmaster
10-30-2009, 01:58 PM
Yellow card on Jenny W. in the WD. first time seen this.