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where is nova/lily ??

wow
what a joke,lindan vs bcl 1st round,2nd round vs chen long:D

where is nova/lily ??

sadly, they already split up.........:crying::crying: one of the successful XD that Ina had....

wow
what a joke,lindan vs bcl 1st round,2nd round vs chen long:D

could be LD lost in R1???

Much better draw for Ina rather than Hkg........

why Fran/Pia are always got tough draw in R1??? they can hardly progress into R2....they should go back into GP and GP Gold first....

Much better draw for Ina rather than Hkg........

Yeah, except Fran/Pia vs Young Dae/Hyo Jung at R/32. Also Bona/Ahsan & Alvent/Hendra AG will meet each other at first round.

why Fran/Pia are always got tough draw in R1??? they can hardly progress into R2....they should go back into GP and GP Gold first....
It is okay to gte beaten up for few tournaments, I believe that Pia/Frans will be much better next year..and it is good to play LYD/LHJ...they will learn more....

anyone who know's where i can se HKopen ?

wow
what a joke,lindan vs bcl 1st round,2nd round vs chen long:D

could be LD lost in R1???

Will LYB decide who to win and who to lose ?

Yeah, except Fran/Pia vs Young Dae/Hyo Jung at R/32. Also Bona/Ahsan & Alvent/Hendra AG will meet each other at first round.

Again??? That will be the second time in just a space of 1 week. Hmm....

Guo Zhendong/Xu Chen vs Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun in R32

wow
what a joke,lindan vs bcl 1st round,2nd round vs chen long:D

could be LD lost in R1???

Will LYB decide who to win and who to lose ?
.. to one member, 2cents, LYB has gotten smarter now and most likely he'll withdraw some of those players so they won't face each other, lose in early rd. before the Semifinals and waste money..

unbelieveable! Lin VS Bao in round 1!

I hope no "Centralize Drawing" next year.
If we start tournament on Tuesday, Hold the Drawing on Sunday or Monday isn't late. And the drawing is held in the place of tournament watched by representative players.

In this current way, we see some players withdrew after got bad draw.
Is the current way really clean and fair ? They can do re-drawing by computerized easily if the draw unfavour to their players, who knows ?

.. to one member, 2cents, LYB has gotten smarter now and most likely he'll withdraw some of those players so they won't face each other, lose in early rd. before the Semifinals and waste money..

Yeah, like Wang Xin vs Yihan case at first round of French SS last week. Most likely LD will win over BCL or walkover scenario may happen again.

hwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.........
nolyn will be splitted up ?
so who will be partnering nova and lilyana ?
oh no...!! we aint have a good xd yet in pelatnas....so sad...
is nova retired ?? or he perhaps will play independently just like Flandy limpele ?
indonesia is truly the pioneer of a profesional badminton player...
one side it is good for badminton but it is sad for indonesia itself when has to compete on multievent championship.
i wish hendra aprida/vita marisa come back to join pelatnas

wow, Lu Lan is not a seeded player in this tournament. :eek:

wow
what a joke,lindan vs bcl 1st round,2nd round vs chen long:D
this is interesting!
Will LYB decide who to win and who to lose ?
the mastemind will be in action too..stay tuned!:p

this is interesting!

the mastemind will be in action too..stay tuned!:p

that sucks, 3 plays in 1 small bracket...1 person enter quarters >_>...

that sucks, 3 plays in 1 small bracket...1 person enter quarters >_>...
this is something interesting and special that we don't see this kind of things happen before this year or maybe ever!:eek::)

wow, 1st round lcw vs jan o jorgensen!:)

.. to one member, 2cents, LYB has gotten smarter now and most likely he'll withdraw some of those players so they won't face each other, lose in early rd. before the Semifinals and waste money..
he means for overseas tournaments.
I don't blame LYB, it's very decisions.

sadly, they already split up.........:crying::crying: one of the successful XD that Ina had....

SPLIT????? How did you know that? Any official news or sth??

I hope no "Centralize Drawing" next year.
If we start tournament on Tuesday, Hold the Drawing on Sunday or Monday isn't late. And the drawing is held in the place of tournament watched by representative players.

In this current way, we see some players withdrew after got bad draw.
Is the current way really clean and fair ? They can do re-drawing by computerized easily if the draw unfavour to their players, who knows ?

yes
i do agree with sandy in this case:)

Most of INA MD top pairs cram into 2nd quarter of the draw..... seriously ?

.. to one member, 2cents, LYB has gotten smarter now and most likely he'll withdraw some of those players so they won't face each other, lose in early rd. before the Semifinals and waste money..

he means for overseas tournaments.
I don't blame LYB, it's very decisions.
If LD wins HK open, LYB can rest LD and give BCL a better chance.....
Of course I am speculating :rolleyes:

he means for overseas tournaments.
I don't blame LYB, it's very decisions.
..we shall see in the future, should LYB face the same scenario.:cool:

The draw will make more sense if in SS events, men and women singles had 16 seeds just like in tennis and not only 8 seeds where in round 16 , we usually have few so so players in cause of the luck of the draw.

Example:

Good players like LD VS BCL, LCW VS Jan O Jorgensen had to battle out for a spot in round 16. Meanwhile so so players like Eric Pang Vs Brice L, Shieh Sing Yu VS Qualifier play each other in round 32 to make it to round 16.

Though I want to watch very good first round matches, but I prefer more exciting matches in later rounds.

I hope no "Centralize Drawing" next year.
If we start tournament on Tuesday, Hold the Drawing on Sunday or Monday isn't late. And the drawing is held in the place of tournament watched by representative players.

In this current way, we see some players withdrew after got bad draw.
Is the current way really clean and fair ? They can do re-drawing by computerized easily if the draw unfavour to their players, who knows ?
I brought this subject to BWF at least 3 times....last time during Japan Open with Stuart..he tried to get more input...told him that we can follow Tennis...
You can not blame China/INA/KOR or others if they withdraw their players earlier after seeing bad draw...

It is true that they should do the drawing after Manager meeting, meaning after 6 pm on Monday...

Just like in WC...we saw Koukal withdrew after he got BCL in 1st round...

I brought this subject to BWF at least 3 times....last time during Japan Open with Stuart..he tried to get more input...told him that we can follow Tennis...
You can not blame China/INA/KOR or others if they withdraw their players earlier after seeing bad draw...

It is true that they should do the drawing after Manager meeting, meaning after 6 pm on Monday...

Just like in WC...we saw Koukal withdrew after he got BCL in 1st round...

Couldn't agree more!

just like tennis grandslams...no seeded players will play each other until R16 or QF...

The draw will make more sense if in SS events, men and women singles had 16 seeds just like in tennis and not only 8 seeds where in round 16 , we usually have few so so players in cause of the luck of the draw.

Example:

Good players like LD VS BCL, LCW VS Jan O Jorgensen had to battle out for a spot in round 16. Meanwhile so so players like Eric Pang Vs Brice L, Shieh Sing Yu VS Qualifier play each other in round 32 to make it to round 16.

Though I want to watch very good first round matches, but I prefer more exciting matches in later rounds.
..has to do with BWF's rules and regulations on how they allow players to compete in their tournaments. Partly also has to do with how many of the qualified players are actually competing; if say, 5 of the top 10 or 20 players/pairs don't show up, what can BWF do??
Btw, there's already a thread discussing BWF's current ranking and draw system in the General Forum section.

could be LD lost in R1???
i dont remember LD have had problems with Bao in 2008-2009 years:rolleyes:

Will LYB decide who to win and who to lose ?
I think everyone should know the answer ;)

Guo Zhendong/Xu Chen vs Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun in R32
this will be a great match to watch :D

this will be a great match to watch :D
Well, I can't see anything in this "great match"!!! Maybe Zhendong and Chen Xu will withdraw. I hope Cai/Fu will vs Lee/Jung in QF match. This will be a really "final match" of the tournament!!!:D:D:D
Welcome back Korean player! Goodluck to you:)

I hope no "Centralize Drawing" next year.
If we start tournament on Tuesday, Hold the Drawing on Sunday or Monday isn't late. And the drawing is held in the place of tournament watched by representative players.

In this current way, we see some players withdrew after got bad draw.
Is the current way really clean and fair ? They can do re-drawing by computerized easily if the draw unfavour to their players, who knows ?

Yeah, like last year ABC drawing. Just wondering why BWF still hold drawing 2 week before the tourney is started?!

Well, I can't see anything in this "great match"!!! Maybe Zhendong and Chen Xu will withdraw. I hope Cai/Fu will vs Lee/Jung in QF match. This will be a really "final match" of the tournament!!!:D:D:D
Welcome back Korean player! Goodluck to you:)
Has LYD recovered from his wrist injury?

Sorry, I don't know exactly but I think there are many good herbal remedies for wrist injury in Korea. So its simple for LYD and his partner come back China open SS...:cool:. Im looking forward to this:)

yeah, LYD can have korean tongkat ali ginseng to heal his injuries though:D:D
haha

yeah, LYD can have korean tongkat ali ginseng to heal his injuries though:D:D
haha
nice one george!!!! ;)

But Geoger@, I still wonder why none of Korean fans confirm our pridictions!!!!:confused::confused::D

But Geoger@, I still wonder why none of Korean fans confirm our pridictions!!!!:confused::confused::D
you mean about the tongkat ali ginseng??? :D:D:D

Yeah, that right!

Yeah, that right!
maybe it's true about the tongkat ali thing......:rolleyes:
maybe our friend george have tried it before and it worked :D:D:D
maybe LYD should consider taking it :p

wow
what a joke,lindan vs bcl 1st round,2nd round vs chen long:D

yep - that's good, not boring first round and looking at LD going home early opens the way for Taufik and LCW:D May be WTGTMS will kick out BCL later on - even much better:cool:
but bad luck for ctjcad - he might need to think about his book again:eek:

SPLIT????? How did you know that? Any official news or sth??

this news had been discussed already..after world championship,Nova ask his coach to look another partner for BUtet since he was old and getting slower on the court.Instead of it,he was very frustated with the failure in final xd WC.I heard news that he cried after the match,even on the podium during award ceremony he looked very sad.With his permission,the coach had look a few candidates which are Mohd Rijal,Rendra Wijaya ,Devin LAhardi . Butet partnered Mohd RIjal during Taiwan GP because that time Rijal's partner Debby susanto was injured ,but this pair lost during qf to MAs young pair 19-21,19-21.This combination known as RiBut.That time,people said Rijal too nervous.In CHN open butet will partnered with Devin LAhardi.Before this,Devin partnered with Lita Nurlita.This combination known as DevIL.This pair performance is not so impressive,they are curently ranked 20th if i'm not wrong.

SPLIT????? How did you know that? Any official news or sth??

this news had been discussed already..after world championship,Nova ask his coach to look another partner for BUtet since he was old and getting slower on the court.Instead of it,he was very frustated with the failure in final xd WC.I heard news that he cried after the match,even on the podium during award ceremony he looked very sad.With his permission,the coach had look a few candidates which are Mohd Rijal,Rendra Wijaya ,Devin LAhardi and Ahmad TAntowi. Butet partnered Mohd RIjal during Taiwan GP because that time Rijal's partner Debby susanto was injured ,but this pair lost during qf to MAs young pair 19-21,19-21.This combination known as RiBut.That time,people said Rijal too nervous.In CHN open butet will partnered with Devin LAhardi.Before this,Devin partnered with Lita Nurlita.This combination known as DevIL.This pair performance is not so impressive,they are curently ranked 20th if i'm not wrong.

this news had been discussed already..after world championship,Nova ask his coach to look another partner for BUtet since he was old and getting slower on the court.Instead of it,he was very frustated with the failure in final xd WC.I heard news that he cried after the match,even on the podium during award ceremony he looked very sad.With his permission,the coach had look a few candidates which are Mohd Rijal,Rendra Wijaya ,Devin LAhardi . Butet partnered Mohd RIjal during Taiwan GP because that time Rijal's partner Debby susanto was injured ,but this pair lost during qf to MAs young pair 19-21,19-21.This combination known as RiBut.That time,people said Rijal too nervous.In CHN open butet will partnered with Devin LAhardi.Before this,Devin partnered with Lita Nurlita.This combination known as DevIL.This pair performance is not so impressive,they are curently ranked 20th if i'm not wrong.
thats correct...Nova may play for another year independently or he may partner younger one to guide them....

also there is a talk to have Grace/Ahsan as well next year and it all depends on PBSI...
Rizal is good as I have reported that he was too nervous at that time..
I believe that Devin/Natsir will be better than Rizal/Natsir..lets see!:cool:

yep - that's good, not boring first round and looking at LD going home early opens the way for Taufik and LCW:D May be WTGTMS will kick out BCL later on - even much better:cool:
but bad luck for ctjcad - he might need to think about his book again:eek:
..do you think LD will go home early??..:confused:
if LD or LCW are eliminated for some reason, before the Semifinals or Finals, then let's see if Taufik can take advantage..

thats correct...Nova may play for another year independently or he may partner younger one to guide them....

also there is a talk to have Grace/Ahsan as well next year and it all depends on PBSI...
Rizal is good as I have reported that he was too nervous at that time..
I believe that Devin/Natsir will be better than Rizal/Natsir..lets see!:cool:
pray for Devin/Natsir ....Also Wish Nova da best ,i would never forget NoLyn pair since they are among the best xd in world.

thats correct...Nova may play for another year independently or he may partner younger one to guide them....

also there is a talk to have Grace/Ahsan as well next year and it all depends on PBSI...
Rizal is good as I have reported that he was too nervous at that time..
I believe that Devin/Natsir will be better than Rizal/Natsir..lets see!:cool:

Hmm? I guess I always thought Rizal is better than Devin...Devin/Lita is a QF specialist and that's about it.

Hmm? I guess I always thought Rizal is better than Devin...Devin/Lita is a QF specialist and that's about it.

I thaught it too
Devin has less power and I allways thaught XD Devil's strong point on Lita. Remember that Lita was ex INA WD#1 in 2003 when she paired with Jo Novita and helped INA from the last standing of group in SC by beat England 3-2 after INA was shocked lost in MD & XD.

Just the problem on Liliyana who can't stand as leader when paired with younger player, different with Vita Marissa. Maybe, this is better choice for her.