2009 Super Series Masters Finals: Will our World Singles No.1's be participating?

[chris-ccc]

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We can see that both our World Singles No.1's, Wang Yihan and Lee Chong Wei, are getting tired towards the end of this year, 2009. However, many fans are still hoping for them to be able to participate in the 2009 Super Series Masters Finals.

Question: Will our World Singles No.1's be participating in the 2009 SS Masters Finals? :confused::confused::confused:
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[george@chongwei]

I guess he will;)

[ctjcad]

i think we should have a poll (yes, no, half & half), just for this question...:cool:

[limsy]

the poll will be:
no,both of them wont
yes,both of them will
lcw will and wyh wont
why will and lcw wont
not sure
:p

[ctjcad]

..after those, we'll add this one:
i don't care!!!

[limsy]

..after those, we'll add this one:
i don't care!!!

ouch!
naughty chris:p

[chris-ccc]

i think we should have a poll (yes, no, half & half), just for this question... :cool:



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:D:D:D Fans of WYH and LCW will definitely hope for them to participate.

IMHO, LCW would be there (just because it's held in Malaysia).
And, for WYH, many think she would skip this one.
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[suetyan]

Wang Yihan and Bao Chunlai will be there. Lin Dan will not be there.

[chris-ccc]

Wang Yihan and Bao Chunlai will be there. Lin Dan will not be there.



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Thanks suetyan for the info. :):):)
It's sure good to find WYH and BCL attending.
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[george@chongwei]

Good to find out that this time some of the chinese will come;)

[suetyan]

Guo Zhengdong/Xu Chen will be there.

[leonardklh]

how about others?

[keigo911]

Wang Yihan and Bao Chunlai will be there. Lin Dan will not be there.


Suetyan,

y LD not coming?

[sting1988]

LD should grab this title since it's one of the few titles he hasn't got. This should be on your check list LD!

[hcpoirot]

From BWF site, it stated that LD will not play here.

*sigh relief* from other 7 competitors from MS. And I do not think he need to prove himself anymore. He already winning all the major title that is.

Super series Final where one country only allow to have two players to play in my opinion just not a major event in my book.

Example: In WS: cause China had 4 WS, Firdasari and Salakjit will replace two of them.

They are in because they play tons of SS events. Firda play 11 SS and Salakjit 9 SS. None of them had reachat least one SS semi final. Both had only reach QF three times. The rest are mostly lost in first or second round.

At least this year Firda beat Tine once in SS event. But Salakjit?

[hcpoirot]

And what an absurd this SS Final event .

One country can only had 2 players in each category. But a player can collect a total of 12 SS events for the final SS rankings.

Example: Pi Hong Yan are number 2 in WS super series ranking cause she had total points from 12 SS events.

But the REAL world ranking only based on maximal of your best from ten events. Maybe it will be better if SS rankings also based on your best TEN SS events points.

Thats why we will have some not very best players/ pairs in some of the categories.

[ctjcad]

..what if the prize money were increased 10 fold ($5 mil)???..don't you think all the top players/national bodies will be lining up in droves to attend this tourney??..*dream on, dream on*..:p

[kevinboy]

RankCountryPlayerMember IDPointsTournaments
1 CHNhttp://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/CHN.gif[CHN] Yihan WANG (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/ranking/player.aspx?id=1082&player=142807)5393872520 10
2 FRAhttp://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/FRA.gif[FRA] Hongyan PI (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/ranking/player.aspx?id=1082&player=142551)969956040 12
3 CHNhttp://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/CHN.gif[CHN] Lin WANG (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/ranking/player.aspx?id=1082&player=142813)5393753460 9
4 DENhttp://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/DEN.gif[DEN] Tine RASMUSSEN (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/ranking/player.aspx?id=1082&player=142549)1035853400 9
5 INDhttp://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/IND.gif[IND] Saina NEHWAL (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/ranking/player.aspx?id=1082&player=142554)5274848260 11
6 HKGhttp://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/HKG.gif[HKG] Mi ZHOU (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/ranking/player.aspx?id=1082&player=142550)782145140 9
7 CHNhttp://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/CHN.gif[CHN] Yanjiao JIANG (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/ranking/player.aspx?id=1082&player=142808)1487444840 7
8 CHNhttp://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/CHN.gif[CHN] Lan LU (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/ranking/player.aspx?id=1082&player=142810)5305741640 8
9 INAhttp://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/INA.gif[INA] Adrianti FIRDASARI (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/ranking/player.aspx?id=1082&player=142559)1471039780 11
10 THAhttp://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/THA.gif[THA] Salakjit PONSANA (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/ranking/player.aspx?id=1082&player=142557)5072831200 9
11 BULhttp://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/BUL.gif[BUL] Petya NEDELCHEVA (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/ranking/player.aspx?id=1082&player=142558)1276530300 8
12 HKGhttp://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/HKG.gif[HKG] Pui Yin YIP (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/ranking/player.aspx?id=1082&player=142561)5164929160 10
13 NEDhttp://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/NED.gif[NED] Jie YAO (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/ranking/player.aspx?id=1082&player=142816)556428920 8
14 CHNhttp://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/CHN.gif[CHN] Xin WANG (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/ranking/player.aspx?id=1082&player=143698)5152028440 4
15 JPNhttp://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/JPN.gif[JPN] Ai GOTO (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/ranking/player.aspx?id=1082&player=142575)5453127780 10
16 HKGhttp://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/HKG.gif[HKG] Chen WANG (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/ranking/player.aspx?id=1082&player=142552)588224480 6
17 CHNhttp://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/CHN.gif[CHN] Shixian WANG (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/ranking/player.aspx?id=1082&player=143697)8306424260 4

Since WYH is going and Tine, Zhou Mi are not going, Petya and Yao Jie should also qualify. Ai Goto will also qualify if only one WS player from China is going.

[limsy]

RankCountryPlayerMember IDPointsTournaments
1 CHNhttp://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/CHN.gif[CHN] Yihan WANG (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/ranking/player.aspx?id=1082&player=142807)5393872520 10
2 FRAhttp://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/FRA.gif[FRA] Hongyan PI (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/ranking/player.aspx?id=1082&player=142551)969956040 12
3 CHNhttp://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/CHN.gif[CHN] Lin WANG (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/ranking/player.aspx?id=1082&player=142813)5393753460 9
4 DENhttp://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/DEN.gif[DEN] Tine RASMUSSEN (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/ranking/player.aspx?id=1082&player=142549)1035853400 9
5 INDhttp://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/IND.gif[IND] Saina NEHWAL (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/ranking/player.aspx?id=1082&player=142554)5274848260 11
6 HKGhttp://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/HKG.gif[HKG] Mi ZHOU (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/ranking/player.aspx?id=1082&player=142550)782145140 9
7 CHNhttp://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/CHN.gif[CHN] Yanjiao JIANG (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/ranking/player.aspx?id=1082&player=142808)1487444840 7
8 CHNhttp://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/CHN.gif[CHN] Lan LU (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/ranking/player.aspx?id=1082&player=142810)5305741640 8
9 INAhttp://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/INA.gif[INA] Adrianti FIRDASARI (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/ranking/player.aspx?id=1082&player=142559)1471039780 11
10 THAhttp://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/THA.gif[THA] Salakjit PONSANA (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/ranking/player.aspx?id=1082&player=142557)5072831200 9
11 BULhttp://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/BUL.gif[BUL] Petya NEDELCHEVA (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/ranking/player.aspx?id=1082&player=142558)1276530300 8
12 HKGhttp://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/HKG.gif[HKG] Pui Yin YIP (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/ranking/player.aspx?id=1082&player=142561)5164929160 10
13 NEDhttp://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/NED.gif[NED] Jie YAO (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/ranking/player.aspx?id=1082&player=142816)556428920 8
14 CHNhttp://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/CHN.gif[CHN] Xin WANG (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/ranking/player.aspx?id=1082&player=143698)5152028440 4
15 JPNhttp://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/JPN.gif[JPN] Ai GOTO (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/ranking/player.aspx?id=1082&player=142575)5453127780 10
16 HKGhttp://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/HKG.gif[HKG] Chen WANG (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/ranking/player.aspx?id=1082&player=142552)588224480 6
17 CHNhttp://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/CHN.gif[CHN] Shixian WANG (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/ranking/player.aspx?id=1082&player=143697)8306424260 4

Since WYH is going and Tine, Zhou Mi are not going, Petya and Yao Jie should also qualify. Ai Goto will also qualify if only one WS player from China is going.

mind to down the player ss ranking in all department or the link?:)

[george@chongwei]

mind to down the player ss ranking in all department or the link?:)
There you go>> http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/ranking/ranking.aspx?rid=77

[suetyan]

..what if the prize money were increased 10 fold ($5 mil)???..don't you think all the top players/national bodies will be lining up in droves to attend this tourney??..*dream on, dream on*..:p
you know, it's not prize money problem. Money can buy many things, but there are still something in our life that money cannot buy. ;)

[chris-ccc]

you know, it's not prize money problem. Money can buy many things, but there are still something in our life that money cannot buy. ;)



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Well said suetyan. :):):)
If money is the problem, players would have changed from Badminton to Tennis (perhaps?).
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[chris-ccc]

There you go>> http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/ranking/ranking.aspx?rid=77



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A surprise to find (from the above link) that LD is now ranked World No.4 (as at Monday 23-Nov-2009).

I thought LD is currently ranked at No.2, just one below LCW
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[chris-ccc]

A surprise to find (from the above link) that LD is now ranked World No.4 (as at Monday 23-Nov-2009).

I thought LD is currently ranked at No.2, just one below LCW.



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Searched and found that LD is currently ranked at World No.2, just one below LCW:
click here (http://bwf.tournamentsoftware.com/ranking/ranking.aspx?rid=70)
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[Jonc108]

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A surprise to find (from the above link) that LD is now ranked World No.4 (as at Monday 23-Nov-2009).

I thought LD is currently ranked at No.2, just one below LCW
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the No.4 is LD's ranking in SS...

in WR, he's still No.2...

[Jonc108]

Guo Zhengdong/Xu Chen will be there.

cai yun / fu hai feng ranked only 11th, not even qualified... but they probably would not come anyway...

[LinDanTruCool]

Where is the JB? Stadium name? same w Msia GP 2009...Bandaraya Stadium? Which hotel...to book if i come from KL?

[suetyan]

cai yun / fu hai feng ranked only 11th, not even qualified... but they probably would not come anyway...
yup, Cai/Fu will not be going. LYB sends Xu/Guo is in case they are qualified. :) LYB wants to show some support to the BWF. If not, you know how other Bcers and BWF will say about CBA and the China team. ;) So, at least must send some players to there.

[limsy]

yup, Cai/Fu will not be going. LYB sends Xu/Guo is in case they are qualified. :) LYB wants to show some support to the BWF. If not, you know how other Bcers and BWF will say about CBA and the China team. ;) So, at least must send some players to there.

hehe
i thought he wont listen to bcer?:eek:
perhaps suetyan have big influence in lyb decision:eek::p
hehe:p

[undeadshot]

Without LD, any one of you think that LCW can pull it off and win again?
As for MD, I hope JJS/LYD and KKK/TBH can meet again in the semi-finals or
final :)

[suetyan]

hehe
i thought he wont listen to bcer?:eek:
perhaps suetyan have big influence in lyb decision:eek::p
hehe:p
he is not listening to Bcers, but gotta give some face to BWF. ;)

[chris-ccc]

yup, Cai/Fu will not be going. LYB sends Xu/Guo is in case they are qualified. :) LYB wants to show some support to the BWF. If not, you know how other Bcers and BWF will say about CBA and the China team. ;) So, at least must send some players to there.



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This is good news indeed. :):):)

China is our strongest Badminton nation. Last year, 2008, when China decided not to participate in it, many BCers thought that this SS Masters Finals could be abandoned forever.
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[limsy]

he is not listening to Bcers, but gotta give some face to BWF. ;)

i though he just blast bwf not long ago?:rolleyes:
although no news in bc:p;)

[hcpoirot]

..what if the prize money were increased 10 fold ($5 mil)???..don't you think all the top players/national bodies will be lining up in droves to attend this tourney??..*dream on, dream on*..:p

If the prize money become 5 million, its become more important that ONLY the best qualified to top 8 in each category. So we can see some amazing badminton.

With the 2 players pre country rules, we bound to get few consistent players but not as good as others in the mix and they will be white washed by top players like when LD play Jan Jorgensen.

But at least the depth in Men Doubles , we will see all top matches and not some one side matches like probably in MS, WS, and WD. (If lots of players decided not to play here)

Suprisingly, XD are very competitive now.

[captainB]

If a country can only have two players to represent them, which 2 are representing China for Men's singles? I knw Bao chunlai is......but what bout Chen Jin??
Dang.....chen jins injured

another Question....is Taufik Hidayat playing?

[chris-ccc]

If a country can only have two players to represent them, which 2 are representing China for Men's singles? I know Bao chunlai is......but what bout Chen Jin??
Dang.....chen jins injured

another Question....is Taufik Hidayat playing?



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For the Super Series Ranking Points Table: click here (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/ranking/ranking.aspx?rid=77)

The CHN MS SS player ranking 3rd is ... Bao Chunlai.
The INA MS SS player ranking 3rd is .... Taufik Hidayat.
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[ctjcad]

you know, it's not prize money problem. Money can buy many things, but there are still something in our life that money cannot buy. ;)
..the idea is how to spur more interest to this invitation tournament so the top 8 players/pairs (not replacement players/pairs) will attend, if that is the goal of BWF. But looks like they haven't done so. Why is that? Other than being injured, why the lack of commitment from the top 8 players/pairs to participate?
If it's schedule, they could do something with the schedule but where would they fit this event? Should they make it once every 2 yrs or 3 yrs?....or should they increase the prize money?..

[chris-ccc]

..the idea is how to spur more interest to this invitation tournament so the top 8 players/pairs (not replacement players/pairs) will attend, if that is the goal of BWF. But looks like they haven't done so. Why is that? Other than being injured, why the lack of commitment from the top 8 players/pairs to participate?

If it's schedule, they could do something with the schedule but where would they fit this event? Should they make it once every 2 yrs or 3 yrs?....or should they increase the prize money?..



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Currently, it is not how Badminton players can be spurred by BWF. Most players (other than independent players) are still under the instructions from their National Associations.

This is one of the main differences between Badminton players compared to players of other sports.
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[ctjcad]

.."how to spur more interest to this invitation tournament so the national bodies/associations will allow their players/pairs (not replacement players/pairs) to attend??"..:confused:

[chris-ccc]

.."how to spur more interest to this invitation tournament so the national bodies/associations will allow their players/pairs (not replacement players/pairs) to attend??".. :confused:



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This is the question, isn't it?

Is the Badminton Super Series Masters Finals bringing recognition to individual players or to their National Associations?

Fans of Tennis players would understand what I am trying to say (I hope). :p:p:p
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[nokh88]

See latest news about China's withdrawals :

http://thestar.com.my/sports/story.asp?file=/2009/11/24/sports/5169143&sec=sports

[suetyan]

See latest news about China's withdrawals :

http://thestar.com.my/sports/story.asp?file=/2009/11/24/sports/5169143&sec=sports
yup, as I mentioned earlier, LD, CJ, CY/FHF will not be there. Only WYH, BCL, GZD/XC will be there. :);)

[nokh88]

The competition is one week away and BWF have not finalised anything yet?

[chris-ccc]

The competition is one week away and BWF have not finalised anything yet?



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It's embarrassing isn't it? :o:o:o
Info and details are always released to us Badminton fans very late.

Things are always organised very late.
* Still don't know if ticket sales have commenced?
* Have qualified players arranged for their travel visas yet?
* Are accommodation and travel bookings already organised for players?

Perhaps after this year, there won't be anymore Super Series Masters Finals (my bet). :(:(:(
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[nokh88]

The competition is one week away and BWF have not finalised anything yet?


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It's embarrassing isn't it? :o

Info and details are always released to us Badminton fans very late.

Things are always organised very late.
* Still don't know if ticket sales have commenced.
* Have qualified players arranged for their travel visas yet?

Perhaps after this year, there won't be anymore Super Series Masters Finals (my bet). :(
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And I am residing at 9km away from the venue. No banners and buntings.

[limsy]

yup, as I mentioned earlier, LD, CJ, CY/FHF will not be there. Only WYH, BCL, GZD/XC will be there. :);)

how about wd and xd?:confused:


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Perhaps after this year, there won't be anymore Super Series Masters Finals (my bet). :(:(:(
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u will lost ur bet to me then;)

[limsy]

If a country can only have two players to represent them, which 2 are representing China for Men's singles? I knw Bao chunlai is......but what bout Chen Jin??
Dang.....chen jins injured

another Question....is Taufik Hidayat playing?

i think the list that had comfimed in ms is
lcw,pg,bcl,th
others is not comfirmed yet:)

[chris-ccc]

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Don't think for just the Malaysian local Badminton fans.

Think of how a resident from the USA, Australia, or anywhere in the world, needs to organise their visa/flight/accommodation arrangements to come to watch.

This Super Series Masters Finals event is organised as an international event, isn't it? :confused:
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[chris-ccc]

Don't think for just the Malaysian local Badminton fans.

Think of how a resident from the USA, Australia, or anywhere in the world, needs to organise their visa/flight/accommodation arrangements to come to watch.

This Super Series Masters Finals event is organised as an international event, isn't it? :confused:



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Just another thought...

Hope that this Super Series Masters Finals event will not be held in Malaysia all the time.

Perhaps, BWF and Yonex can get the Japan Badminton Association to stage it in Japan next year (in 2010).
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[phaarix]

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Don't think for just the Malaysian local Badminton fans.

Think of how a resident from the USA, Australia, or anywhere in the world, needs to organise their visa/flight/accommodation arrangements to come to watch.

This Super Series Masters Finals event is organised as an international event, isn't it? :confused:
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You're right, it's totally ridiculous... And yeah... embarrassing... It's like the Masters Finals are an afterthought. Considering the prize money I thought it was supposed to be somewhat of a major event. Well I'm certainly not convinced! Seems unnecessary if this is the effort they're going to put into it. Would probably be better off just not having it at all...

[chris-ccc]

You're right, it's totally ridiculous... And yeah... embarrassing... It's like the Masters Finals are an afterthought. Considering the prize money I thought it was supposed to be somewhat of a major event. Well I'm certainly not convinced! Seems unnecessary if this is the effort they're going to put into it. Would probably be better off just not having it at all.



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Maybe New Zealand could host the 2010 SS Masters Finals. It's closer to Australia. ;););)
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[Hazeef]

ok. i googled "super series masters final 2009" and THE ONLY entry went up was this thread! seriously? the event is going to be next week and no proper advertisement? are they going to cancel it? i've already apply for few days off work to go to jb! we got no inside knowledge or anything about the status of this tourney?

[chris-ccc]

ok. i googled "super series masters final 2009" and THE ONLY entry went up was this thread! seriously? the event is going to be next week and no proper advertisement? are they going to cancel it? i've already apply for few days off work to go to jb! we got no inside knowledge or anything about the status of this tourney?



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We hope that our BCer in JB, nokh88, could give us more info (from what can be seen happening at that venue, supposedly to be staging this event).
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[ctjcad]

...i think BWF should rename the tourney to simply "Super Series Year End Get Together Invitation Finals". They can get rid off the word "Masters" cos we ain't gonna see the real top 8 players/pairs in the world competing, again...Last yr they failed to showcase the top 8 players/pairs; this yr, same old story..:(:o

[nokh88]

Where is the JB? Stadium name? same w Msia GP 2009...Bandaraya Stadium? Which hotel...to book if i come from KL?

Should be. There's only one indoor stadium in JB and all previous ABC tournaments were staged there. There are a few hotels nearby, namely New York, Grand Paragon, Crystal Crown which is @ RM100 plus per night. Players and officials have stayed here before. Thistle, Mutiara and Zon are also nearby but slightly dearer.


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We hope that our BCer in JB, nokh88, could give us more info (from what can be seen happening at that venue, supposedly to be staging this event).
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From past events, they have a big shuttlecock at the entrance and some wall posters on the stadium and that's about it. I will be in the vicinity later and will take a look from outside which I think won't be much 'cos the decorations only take a day to put and it's still too early. Will keep you posted if I see anything later. Tickets for ABC tourney used to be RM10.00 for first few days and RM20.00 for QF and RM30.00 for SF & Finals. No idea about this SS Masters Final though.

[nokh88]

There is another similar thread. Can we combine?

http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=75885

[ants]

At least this will give Msian players more opportunity to win. Weather they will grab the opportunity and play their hearts out.. it is another matter.

[suetyan]

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Just another thought...

Hope that this Super Series Masters Finals event will not be held in Malaysia all the time.

Perhaps, BWF and Yonex can get the Japan Badminton Association to stage it in Japan next year (in 2010).
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yup, agree with you. I don't understand why every time SS Final is held in Malaysia. :( I hope other nations get a chance to organize this SS Final, such as Korea, Japan, Denmark or England? :D

[eRa@에라]

LD not playing? hmmm... too tired, maybe? wanting to watch him vs LCW again.... maybe next year...

[suetyan]

LD not playing? hmmm... too tired, maybe? wanting to watch him vs LCW again.... maybe next year...
LD will be participating in the EA games, so he skips this. BCL who will be sent to this SS Final, will skip the EA games. :)

[chris-ccc]

LD will be participating in the EA games, so he skips this. BCL who will be sent to this SS Final, will skip the EA games. :)



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So unfortunate that CL is not ranked any higher in the SS Ranking. With LD and CJ skipping the SS Masters Finals, it's only BCL who can come (from CBA) for the MS event.
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[keigo911]

yup, agree with you. I don't understand why every time SS Final is held in Malaysia. :( I hope other nations get a chance to organize this SS Final, such as Korea, Japan, Denmark or England? :D

Basically, NO nation willing to host the game...

So MAS as the BWF office, must take it (shld say, forced to take it)... :)

(I got this info during WJC, chit-chat with 1 of the BAM guy after his phone call asking some1 to get prepared for SS masters final, decided in MAS) haha!

[keigo911]

LD will be participating in the EA games, so he skips this. BCL who will be sent to this SS Final, will skip the EA games. :)

Somehow it's swapping... coz CBA thinks that EA games hold higher importance, mainly due to 4 years once, and held at CHI (maybe suetyan can describe further if it's true) :)

[suetyan]

Basically, NO nation willing to host the game...

So MAS as the BWF office, must take it (shld say, forced to take it)... :)

(I got this info during WJC, chit-chat with 1 of the BAM guy after his phone call asking some1 to get prepared for SS masters final, decided in MAS) haha!
oic, is it this SS is so 'cheap' until no one wants to host it? :confused:

[suetyan]

Somehow it's swapping... coz CBA thinks that EA games hold higher importance, mainly due to 4 years once, and held at CHI (maybe suetyan can describe further if it's true) :)
yup, not only CBA, Master Li and the players such as LD view EA Games more important than SS Final. It is held in HK, not China. :)

[ctjcad]

oic, is it this SS is so 'cheap' until no one wants to host it? :confused:
..prestige or prize money being awarded?..
I just feel a lot of the national bodies/players don't really care about this event. After all, it is an invitation only event without any major repercussions should a player decide not to attend (no ranking pts awarded). Its only enticement & reward is the bigger prize money.

Now, imagine this scenario. What if the SSMF is held in China? Will CBA allow all of their qualified players to participate?..

[limsy]

http://www.bam.org.my/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1474&Itemid=1

so after all
lcw will play in both ssmf and sea games(individual+team)

[suetyan]

..prestige or prize money being awarded?..
I just feel a lot of the national bodies/players don't really care about this event. After all, it is an invitation only event without any major repercussions should a player decide not to attend (no ranking pts awarded). Its only enticement & reward is the bigger prize money.

Now, imagine this scenario. What if the SSMF is held in China? Will CBA allow all of their qualified players to participate?..
I don't find the meaning to held this SS Final. To win the big money? Or to increase the burden of the players? As you know many qualified players have played many tournaments in a year in order to qualify for this SS Final. Won't they get exhausted?

[suetyan]

http://www.bam.org.my/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1474&Itemid=1

so after all
lcw will play in both ssmf and sea games(individual+team)
pity boy........ :(

[limsy]

I don't find the meaning to held this SS Final. To win the big money? Or to increase the burden of the players? As you know many qualified players have played many tournaments in a year in order to qualify for this SS Final. Won't they get exhausted?

wah
i saw lyb in suetyan shadow:p

agreed
4 grand slam + 4 regular ss(switch to another 4 in next year,then switch back:p,when those country didnt held ss they held gp gold)
plus one wc and one ss master final
settle?;):p

[limsy]

pity boy........ :(

haha
ya
hmm
his plan to fly to guang dong before the league start have faded
;):rolleyes:

[george@chongwei]

pity boy........ :(
what to do? malaysia has been always relying on him..

[george@chongwei]

haha
ya
hmm
his plan to fly to guang dong before the league start have faded
;):rolleyes:
If ppl would wanna sign a star player, anytime also can one..
can wait anytime. no problem;)

[suetyan]

wah
i saw lyb in suetyan shadow:p

agreed
4 grand slam + 4 regular ss(switch to another 4 in next year,then switch back:p,when those country didnt held ss they held gp gold)
plus one wc and one ss master final
settle?;):p
If this SS final were to held 3 years once or 4 years once, I think it would be better. SS Final is simply waste money, waste time, waste players' physical strength.

[suetyan]

what to do? malaysia has been always relying on him..
we still have another Chong Wei. Don't we?:p

[george@chongwei]

we still have another Chong Wei. Don't we?:p
That's right!!;)... but u have to ask jason about his progress thus far..:D

[suetyan]

That's right!!;)... but u have to ask jason about his progress thus far..:D
why? Jason is our Chong Wei's coach ah? :p:D

[eaglehelang]

If this SS final were to held 3 years once or 4 years once, I think it would be better. SS Final is simply waste money, waste time, waste players' physical strength.

Think of it in the business sense : Generate more $$$$$ from ticket sales & advertising. That's why lor. :p
But at the moment, doesnt look like they're making profit,look like just want to give more prestige to badminton, image wise, so globally people will think baddy is quite grand.

[jasonmarc]

That's right!!;)... but u have to ask jason about his progress thus far..:D

and u still want to mention my name...! :eek:Some people dont like it, u know..:D

Yes, still a far far way to go, Hmmm, not at the moment, and player like LCW in MAS is a rare breed of its kind, just like LD in Chn, it only happened once in many-many years..........

I only think if we could produce another single player like FKK, is good enough though.......from this batch of back up and elite back ups.......still early to say....if they manage to produce more cosistant results in 2010....in Statalites and GP/GP Gold tourneys........

[suetyan]

Think of it in the business sense : Generate more $$$$$ from ticket sales & advertising. That's why lor. :p
But at the moment, doesnt look like they're making profit,look like just want to give more prestige to badminton, image wise, so globally people will think baddy is quite grand.
Profit? They don't make a loss I also curi ketawa (laugh) lor. haha:D

[eaglehelang]

Profit? They don't make a loss I also curi ketawa (laugh) lor. haha:D

That's why lor I said, for image or 'water face' purpose. :D

[suetyan]

and u still want to mention my name...! :eek:Some people dont like it, u know..:D

Yes, still a far far way to go, Hmmm, not at the moment, and player like LCW in MAS is a rare breed of its kind, just like LD in Chn, it only happened once in many-many years..........

I only think if we could produce another single player like FKK, is good enough though.......from this batch of back up and elite back ups.......still early to say....if they manage to produce more cosistant results in 2010....in Statalites and GP/GP Gold tourneys........
the another Chong Wei I want to mean is not any other, but is our George Chong Wei. :p

[jasonmarc]

why? Jason is our Chong Wei's coach ah? :p:D

Please lah,....LCW's coach is Misbun not me lah........Suetyan ! :D:D

[eaglehelang]

Please lah,....LCW's coach is Misbun not me lah........Suetyan ! :D:D

or Hendrawan for Chong Wei Feng

[george@chongwei]

the another Chong Wei I want to mean is not any other, but is our George Chong Wei. :p
i thought u mean CWF..cheh..
u wanna see the 'another chong wei' in international badminton?:cool:

[jasonmarc]

the another Chong Wei I want to mean is not any other, but is our George Chong Wei. :p

LOL, sorry, I miss understood that one......:p Just how silly i am...

Of couse it our George@Chongwei but funny how he want to ask me about his own progress..............:confused::confused: but surely i think he will 'survive' :D :D

[suetyan]

Please lah,....LCW's coach is Misbun not me lah........Suetyan ! :D:D
aiyoyo, I am joking with George la, of course I know LCW's coach is Misbun. :p

[george@chongwei]

LOL, sorry, I miss understood that one......:p Just how silly i am...

Of couse it our George@Chongwei but funny how he want to ask me about his own progress..............:confused::confused: but surely i think he will 'survive' :D :D
i misunderstood suetyan's post too.

[suetyan]

LOL, sorry, I miss understood that one......:p Just how silly i am...

Of couse it our George@Chongwei but funny how he want to ask me about his own progress..............:confused::confused: but surely i think he will 'survive' :D :D


i misunderstood suetyan's post too.
haha, both of you really la... I am just kidding with him. :D:p Ok la, enough joke, let us come back to topic. :p

[jasonmarc]

aiyoyo, I am joking with George la, of course I know LCW's coach is Misbun. :p

LOL, I tot u only very familiar with every things in China and never bothered with MAS anymore...! J/king :D:D:D

[jasonmarc]

Thus far, really nothing much we can talk about this coming SSMF..........but I personally think LCW will face harder challenge this time with the participation of BCL.......and a 'getting' better TH........

[eaglehelang]

Suetyan, Team China confirm only sending WYH, Bao2, Guo/Xu Chen? XD & WD no news?

[george@chongwei]

Suetyan, Team China confirm only sending WYH, Bao2, Guo/Xu Chen? XD & WD no news?
that's right.....

[chris-ccc]

Suetyan, Team China confirm only sending WYH, Bao2, Guo/Xu Chen? XD & WD no news?



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eaglehelang, on Tuesday 24-Nov-2009, BWF released the names of players confirmed coming.
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[limsy]

hmm
i hope as wont come:p

NO WANG YI HAN?!
we get fooled

most competitve from md:cool:
and also xd

extremely hard for wong/chin to win here
unless a ina open 2009 performance at here

thanks chriss:)

[suetyan]

wow, I am a bit shocked too didn't see WYH's name in the list. But another name appeared in the list, which is Lu Lan! Haha.... I guess LYB wants her to concentrate in EA Games rather than SS Final. :D But it is good to not see her name in the list so that she can rest more to prepare for the EA Games.

[suetyan]

LHJ/LKW is playing, good.

[eaglehelang]

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eaglehelang, on Tuesday 24-Nov-2009, BWF released the names of players confirmed coming.
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Thanks chris, WYH not coming after all.
And INA sending Rian/Yoke as the other MD, along with ALvent/Hendra

[chris-ccc]

wow, I am a bit shocked too didn't see WYH's name in the list. But another name appeared in the list, which is Lu Lan! Haha.... I guess LYB wants her to concentrate in EA Games rather than SS Final. :D But it is good to not see her name in the list so that she can rest more to prepare for the EA Games.



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There's a good chance that Lu Lan can win the WS title.
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[keigo911]

Thanks chris, WYH not coming after all.
And INA sending Rian/Yoke as the other MD, along with ALvent/Hendra

INA only not sending all their SEA games players here, for others, they may still come... :)

[keigo911]

quite suprise when i saw the list, which WYH is not coming...

maybe she only apprears to where LYB going ba... hehe!

[eaglehelang]

INA only not sending all their SEA games players here, for others, they may still come... :)

I mean Rian/YOke are under PBSI & I tot they're going SEA Games as 3rd MD in Team.

[justme_manda]

Any idea on how I can get the tickets to the tournament?
Excited! :)

[limsy]

actually
beside the ws
all department is a worthy trip for badminton lover:)

[badmintex]

Wang Yihan and Bao Chunlai will be there. Lin Dan will not be there.
In MS should be the top 2 ranking for China is LD and CJ. that means BCL has no chance in participating this tournament ?!:o

[limsy]

In MS should be the top 2 ranking for China is LD and CJ. that means BCL has no chance in participating this tournament ?!:o

see post number 94 in this thread;)

[keigo911]

I mean Rian/YOke are under PBSI & I tot they're going SEA Games as 3rd MD in Team.

mayb they change their mind...

and individual event only allows max of 2 pair, so still reasonable for them to join SS final for exposure... anyway this might consider a good outing for them since they r young and get to compete in this kind of tourney, some more at MAS (pressure handling experience will be good for them) :)

[chris-ccc]

Any idea on how I can get the tickets to the tournament?
Excited! :)



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Try with these contact details below:

Johor Badminton Association

Address: : Dewan Persatuan Badminton Negeri Johor
Jalan Dato' Jaafar
Larkin
80350 Johor Bharu
Johor

Tel: : 07-227 2889
Fax: : 07-227 2889
Email: : ramli.mokhtar@simedarby.com
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[limsy]

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Try with these contact details below:

Johor Badminton Association

Address: : Dewan Persatuan Badminton Negeri Johor
Jalan Dato' Jaafar
Larkin
80350 Johor Bharu
Johor

Tel: : 07-227 2889
Fax: : 07-227 2889
Email: : ramli.mokhtar@simedarby.com
.

hmm
u can try
but i dont it will works:)

[captainB]

i hope BCL will win this big tournament.

[chris-ccc]

hmm
u can try
but i dont it will works :)



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If it doesn't work, then perhaps contact:

Badminton Association of Malaysia

Address : Badminton Association of Malaysia
Stadium Juara
Bukit Kiara Sports Complex
Jalan 1 / 70 D, Bukit Kiara
60000 Kuala Lumpur
Malaysia.

Tel: : 603-2093 9220, or 603-2093 9280, or 603-2093 9297
Fax: : 603-2094 5855
Email: : admin@bam.org.my
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[badmintex]

you know, it's not prize money problem. Money can buy many things, but there are still something in our life that money cannot buy. ;)
What for examples that money cannot buy? :p At least you can buy the best badminton racket with the latest technology and its shuttlecock. :p

[badmintex]

i hope BCL will win this big tournament.
BCL lost when you expect him to win. It is better you not expecting him to him, he will have a bigger chance then. Lately, You cannot expect BCL will win playing against LCW and PG.:p

[ctjcad]

... SS Final is simply waste money, waste time, waste players' physical strength.
..and also a waste of space in this forum??..:confused:

I don't find the meaning to held this SS Final. To win the big money? Or to increase the burden of the players? As you know many qualified players have played many tournaments in a year in order to qualify for this SS Final. Won't they get exhausted?
Well, from what i understand, according to BWF, the sole purpose of holding this SSMF is to expose the sport of badminton through its top 8 players/pairs while at the same time reward those players/pairs with a, let's call it, yr end bonus prize money.
And I quip from BWF website:
"The BWF introduced the Super Series format to showcase badminton at a higher level of competitiveness, to increase television coverage for the sport and to increase the star quality and popularity of the top players in the world through a wider television audience.
The BWF Super Series Masters Finals ends the series for the year and the best eight men’s and women’s singles and doubles players, as well as mixed doubles players are invited to battle it out for top prize money."

Unfortunately, the way i see it, both BWF and the other national bodies/players are not in sync/on the same boat with BWF's intended purpose.
IMO, the former goal has failed while the latter goal can probably be beneficial to a few independent players.
Maybe not enough incentive to go through another tourney??(no ranking pts given? not enough monetary rewards?)
If BWF can't even get the 8 top ranked players/pairs to compete, let alone the top ranked player/pair in each event, I think BWF needs to go back and review their intended goal/purpose of holding this event.

Btw, no WYH, afterall...maybe she changed her mind after chatting with you and your lack of desire to go to JB??..;)

[hcpoirot]

Again based on all the participants here, what a failure SS Year End 2009 except for MD and XD.

Even last week China Open had better top players than this event.

Most of top players from Indonesia and China did not participate here.

Lets review from the best category to the worst category.

Men Double:

Even without MK/HS and Cai/Fu, this top 8 are very good pairs and had some top results this year. All eight of them deserve to be here.

Mixed Double:

Again, this field lack of Indonesia and China pair. But some of the pairs here had done very good this year. 5 of the pair had at leat win one SS title.

Diju/Gutta and Ha/Ko not qute deserving the spots. Though they are in the top 8 of SS rankings, but that just cause they play many SS events. D/G 10 events with only 1 SF and 1 QF. Korean pair play 9 SS events, 1 runner up and 2 QF.

Hendra/Vita are much better than them. too pity they only play 5 SS events. But they reach 1 runner up and 2 SF from 5 events.

And the world Champions Kamila/Thomas not even close in the ranking.

But overall six pairs still very good.

[hcpoirot]

Men Singles:

Then Men Single still quite competitive. At least China sent BCL and Indonesia had Taufik. But Hsieh from Taipei? Come on! From 9 SS events, only 1 SF and 1 QF.

But we still had three players who win SS titles this year. Good.

Women Doubles:

Just a nightmare without any China pair or at least Indonesia pair. The Danes pair Kamila/Lena already split. And probably 2 of the Korean pair and The Chinese Taipei pair too. But with WPt/TEH, these 5 pairs still quite strong .

But the rest of the three just a JOKE in the top 8 ranking.

Jenny/Gabrielle from England. 10 SS events with only 2 QF. SEVEN of them lost in FIRST ROUNDS. But thanks to BWF ranking points they ranked 10 in SS ranking.

Duang/Kunchala. Ranked 12 in SS ranking. Play 9 SS events. Only reach ONE QF. FOUR of them lost in first round. 4 of them lost in second round.

But the worst of all had to be Nicole/Charmaine. They ranked 14 in SS ranking just because they play 10 SS events. Their results? Terrible. EIGHT time lost in first round. And only TWO times reach second round.

And they are best of the eight???

Okay so the Chinese and Indonesia won't send any pairs. But BWF can give wild card to the fav fans pair of Japan Maeda/Suetsuna.

They only play 4 SS events, but they reach a Runner Up and QF once. Very good compare to the above three pairs.

[hcpoirot]

But the worst of it all had to be Women Singles field where so many top players absent.

Women Singles:

Only 4 players deserved to be in the top 8.

Lu Lan the world champion holder. Saina who win SS titles. And the ever consistent Pi Hong Yan. And yao Jie who although not as good as 2-3 yeas ago but still managed to reach SF of SS events twice this year.

The rest of the four just so so players. (Salakjit, Nicole, Julianne and Kim)

Between the four of them, they play total 33 SS events but they only reach a total of 6 QF. Rest of them were just first or second round lost.

BWF at least can give one wild card to Eriko Hirose from Japan. Yes , she only ranked 22 . But she only play FIVE SS events and reach semifinal TWICE from five events. That mcuh much better than the four above player combine.

Bottom line is: If BWF cannot lobbying all the best TOP EIGHT players to play in this supposedly the TOP event of the year, maybe they can start by having a better ranking points. So player who play less events but had much better results can play here, instead of players who qualified just because he/she play so many events with ordinary results.

How on earth the loser of a first round SS event got 2200 points. It is 23% of the winner points. (Winner got 9200 points) That just too much.

Lets say player A play one SS and reach semifinal. He got 6420 points. Player B play 3 SS and lost all 3 in first round. He got a total of 6600 points by just losing in first round and his ranking will be better than player A. Just ABSURD!

[hcpoirot]

If BWF did not want to change the ranking points, the least they can do is give a wild card for much more deserving player/pair in each category like I suggested.

[chris-ccc]

Bottom line is: If BWF cannot lobbying all the best TOP EIGHT players to play in this supposedly the TOP event of the year,maybe they can start by having a better ranking points. So player who play less events but had much better results can play here, instead of players who qualified just because he/she play so many events with ordinary results.

How on earth the loser of a first round SS event got 2200 points. It is 23% of the winner points. (Winner got 9200 points) That just too much.

Lets say player A play one SS and reach semifinal. He got 6420 points. Player B play 3 SS and lost all 3 in first round. He got a total of 6600 points by just losing in first round and his ranking will be better than player A. Just ABSURD!



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Different percentages of a winner's ranking points have been tried (not just for Badminton).

This is the simplest, but the harshest one for losers:
Winner ................... 100.0000%
Runner-up ................ 50.0000%
Semi-Finals loser ....... 25.0000%
Quarter-Finals loser .... 12.5000%
Round-of-16 loser ......... 6.2500%
Round-of-32 loser ......... 3.1250%
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[ytyang]

What for examples that money cannot buy? :p At least you can buy the best badminton racket with the latest technology and its shuttlecock. :p
Money alone can't buy Boleh pride!

Being the host country, I hope MAS will win MS, WD and MD
titles. Hopefully KKK/TBH will have their revenge over
LYD/JJS....

[suetyan]

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There's a good chance that Lu Lan can win the WS title.
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guess why LL is coming. She needs money? Haha.... :D

[suetyan]

In MS should be the top 2 ranking for China is LD and CJ. that means BCL has no chance in participating this tournament ?!:o
because LD and CJ are not coming, so BCL has the chance. :) See the red tapes for this SS Final. ;)

[undeadshot]

Money alone can't buy Boleh pride!

Being the host country, I hope MAS will win MS, WD and MD
titles. Hopefully KKK/TBH will have their revenge over
LYD/JJS....

WD hard. The rest got higher chance
Malaysia's biggest opponent in MD is definitely JJS/LYD.
As for MS, I think LCW's toughest opponent is......Peter Gade?

[suetyan]

What for examples that money cannot buy? :p At least you can buy the best badminton racket with the latest technology and its shuttlecock. :p
money cannot buy health. :) Money can't also make a dead person to alive. :)

[suetyan]

Btw, no WYH, afterall...maybe she changed her mind after chatting with you and your lack of desire to go to JB??..;)
nope, no chance to chat with her lately, she ain't online, guess she is busy. :D

[chris-ccc]

guess why LL is coming. She needs money? Haha.... :D



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Actually, Lu Lan is lucky that CBA allows her to come. :)
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[george@chongwei]

guess why LL is coming. She needs money? Haha.... :D
the player can make their own decision to come here?:confused:

[OneToughBirdie]

US$40K for MS win and get to keep them all, no splitting...that is >RM150K for 5 days of badminton, not bad, a lot more than plenty professional engineers made in a whole year in MAS...do you think Dato is sad or disaapointed with LD out....with LD and CJ out, and playing at home, LCW has enhanced his winning chances like last year...Dato should sent a thank-you card and commission to LD/CJ and most importantly, to LYB (yes, must be this Li guy again for manipulating the game) some big-time commission $$ for brokering the deal keeping both in CHN...for WD, WPT-CEH could win again like last year, make as much as both can with CHN out. LL playing solo could win the whole thingie and she is 'expected' to split the loot with her teammates back home....;):D:p

[george@chongwei]

LHJ/LKW is playing, good.
Yeah, the same goes to the chinese taipei pair of cheng/chien;)

[suetyan]

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Actually, Lu Lan is lucky that CBA allows her to come. :)
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why lucky? hehe...who knows maybe LL doesn't like JB this place. :p She comes just because of team order. :p


the player can make their own decision to come here?:confused:
nono, they can't.


Yeah, the same goes to the chinese taipei pair of cheng/chien;)
yup, long time didn't see Cheng/Chien and Lee/Lee in the WD. Hope they can produce good results at the SS Final.

[ytyang]

US$40K for MS win and get to keep them all, no splitting...that is >RM150K for 5 days of badminton, not bad, a lot more than plenty professional engineers made in a whole year in MAS...do you think Dato is sad or disaapointed with LD out....with LD and CJ out, and playing at home, LCW has enhanced his winning chances like last year...Dato should sent a thank-you card and commission to LD/CJ and most importantly, to LYB (yes, must be this Li guy again for manipulating the game) some big-time commission $$ for brokering the deal keeping both in CHN...for WD, WPT-CEH could win again like last year, make as much as both can with CHN out. LL playing solo could win the whole thingie and she is 'expected' to split the loot with her teammates back home....;):D:p
LYB is returning his favour to MAS for not pulling out of
China open....:confused:

[OneToughBirdie]

LYB is returning his favour to MAS for not pulling out of
China open....:confused:

You could be right...but more likely, LYB has a kickback for broker fee to keep LD/CJ out...so Dato win, LYB win...win-win for both...even though USD has devalue a bit, still USD40K is lotsa dough...:p;)

[ctjcad]

US$40K for MS win and get to keep them all, no splitting...that is >RM150K for 5 days of badminton, not bad, a lot more than plenty professional engineers made in a whole year in MAS...
...
..if only that's a norm in other tourneys, eh?..:p
Even for the Doubles events, the winning pairs will get $21,000 for each player. So, if LYD wins both the XD and MD events, he could net more than a winner in the Singles events ($42k). Of course, he might have to give up some to the national body.

[eaglehelang]

nono, they can't.

l.

Even retired players like GL, Wei Yili, Yang Wei, etc cannot make own decision kah? If they qualify lah, let's say.

[ctjcad]

..all players (incl. retired players) who want to play under the CHN flag must be approved by the CBA/Mr. LYB. Only in cases like Chen Hong or Zhou Mi or those who've moved to other countries, they would have to wait a yr or two or so before being granted a full release.

[suetyan]

Even retired players like GL, Wei Yili, Yang Wei, etc cannot make own decision kah? If they qualify lah, let's say.
they can. Independent players can. :)

[badmintex]

because LD and CJ are not coming, so BCL has the chance. :) See the red tapes for this SS Final. ;)
Yeah surely CJ is not coming to Malaysia. Remember, he was injured during the match against Jan Jorgensen in last China Open. Lucky this time BCL got the free ticket to Malaysia even his ranking is lowest.

Same thing apply to TH. His rank is lower than Simon's. TH got lucky just like BCL.:p

[chris-ccc]

Yeah surely CJ is not coming to Malaysia. Remember, he was injured during the match against Jan Jorgensen in last China Open. Lucky this time BCL got the free ticket to Malaysia even his ranking is lowest.

Same thing apply to TH. His rank is lower than Simon's. TH got lucky just like BCL.:p



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That's for sure. :):):)

Both BCL and TH are currently ranked 3rd in their respective National standings. Both are lucky to be able to be included in this 2009 BWF Super Series Masters Mens Singles Finals.

And they both have a good chance to win the title too. ;):cool::)
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[X Ball]

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That's for sure. :):):)

Both BCL and TH are currently ranked 3rd in their respective National standings. Both are lucky to be able to be included in this 2009 BWF Super Series Masters Mens Singles Finals.

And they both have a good chance to win the title too. ;):cool::)
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As much as I would like to patronize your view that they have a GOOD chance, you got to remember LCW is unbeatable at home. They should aim for 2nd place podium at best.

[chris-ccc]

As much as I would like to patronize your view that they have a GOOD chance, you got to remember LCW is unbeatable at home. They should aim for 2nd place podium at best.



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Hehehe... We shall soon see how true your crystal ball can predict. :p:p:p
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[limsy]

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Hehehe... We shall soon see how true your crystal ball can predict. :p:p:p
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oh oh
should have included except wc 2007 and one of the mas open:p

[chris-ccc]

oh oh
should have included except wc 2007 and one of the mas open:p



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Perhaps X Ball wasn't there watching at those events. :)
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[badmintex]

As much as I would like to patronize your view that they have a GOOD chance, you got to remember LCW is unbeatable at home. They should aim for 2nd place podium at best.
even the mighty Lin dan has a record of never beating LCW in his home ground. :p

[volcom]

even the mighty Lin dan has a record of never beating LCW in his home ground. :p
Did Sony Dwi Kuncoro beat LCW in Malaysia? :confused:

[chris-ccc]

Did Sony Dwi Kuncoro beat LCW in Malaysia? :confused:



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The 2007 World Badminton Championships was held in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.

In Round 3 (Round-of-16) on Thursday 16-August-2007:
Sony DWI KUNCORO [9] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=E9967735-FBFE-4C65-AB6C-EBF28796D843&player=9)http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/INA.gif[INA] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=E9967735-FBFE-4C65-AB6C-EBF28796D843&c=INA) defeated http://static.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/MAS.gif[MAS] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=E9967735-FBFE-4C65-AB6C-EBF28796D843&c=MAS)Chong Wei LEE [2] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=E9967735-FBFE-4C65-AB6C-EBF28796D843&player=2) 21-11, 21-9 in 36 mins

That was a BIG shock to many MAS fans. :crying::crying::crying:
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[hcpoirot]

Will be very interesting to see when Sony (maybe) meet LCW again in Sea Games 09 individual event. :)

[george@chongwei]

even the mighty Lin dan has a record of never beating LCW in his home ground. :p
Very well said:):p

[suetyan]

Lee Hyo Jung
Lee Kyung Won
Kim Moon Hi
Kim Min Jung

Source: http://www.badzine.info/index.php/news/newsflash/61-newsflash/2237-ss-finals-masters-minus-2-more-kims-and-lees.html

[ybs0501]

Lee Hyo Jung
Lee Kyung Won
Kim Moon Hi
Kim Min Jung

Source: http://www.badzine.info/index.php/news/newsflash/61-newsflash/2237-ss-finals-masters-minus-2-more-kims-and-lees.html

wat a bad news... nothing interest for WD:(

[chris-ccc]

Latest withdrawals
Lee Hyo Jung
Lee Kyung Won
Kim Moon Hi
Kim Min Jung

Source: http://www.badzine.info/index.php/news/.../ss-finals-masters (http://www.badzine.info/index.php/news/newsflash/61-newsflash/2237-ss-finals-masters-minus-2-more-kims-and-lees.html)



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A disaster, isn't it? :(:(:(

Don't know when we can get a SS Masters Finals when all top 8 players/pairs get to attend.
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[badmintex]

Did Sony Dwi Kuncoro beat LCW in Malaysia? :confused:
what sony did to LCW (beating him) was a miracle. I wonder if Sony can do it once again in JB but unlucky we cannot watch this match as Sony will not be participating in SS Final '09. :p

[badmintex]

Will be very interesting to see when Sony (maybe) meet LCW again in Sea Games 09 individual event. :)
Where this coming SEA games '09 will be held?. Bangkok? :confused:

[hcpoirot]

Where this coming SEA games '09 will be held?. Bangkok? :confused:

Sea Games 09 will be held in Laos.

About WD with the Korean pairs withdrawal: Total disaster! Really horrible. Alongside WS, will be the most boring categories due to lack of top players here. And lack of competition.

WD and WS participants looks more like Gold tournaments participants rather than SS Master Final.

With LHJ injury, XD field will also lost one contender in LYD/LHJ. :(

[chris-ccc]

WD and WS participants looks more like Gold tournaments participants rather than SS Master Final.



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Yes, after 3 years of trying, our SS Masters Finals event is still going nowhere.

BWF has to rethink. IMHO, our Badminton Masters Finals event cannot become BIG unless;

(1) Our Badminton players become independent professionals (not controlled by their National Associations)

We cannot compare Badminton players with professional players in Tennis, Golf, Basketball, Soccer, etc...

and/or,

(2) More National Badminton Associations support this event

IMHO, National Associations care more for glory to their national teams' standing/ranking than to their individual players' achievements. For them, it's the total team spirit/glory that counts.
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[ctjcad]

..imagine the scramble to fill in those spots which were previously occupied by those Koreans..:eek:

And to think this is "supposed" to be BWF's most anticipated and hyped up event of the yr...

[eRa@에라]

This is such a bummer! I really think they should cancel the whole thing and save the money for better preparation of next year SS final, to be held on a more reasonable realistic time with the real top 8 attendees in every departments!

[CLELY]

Lee Hyo Jung
Lee Kyung Won
Kim Moon Hi
Kim Min Jung

Source: http://www.badzine.info/index.php/news/newsflash/61-newsflash/2237-ss-finals-masters-minus-2-more-kims-and-lees.html

WD -- Ha Jung Eun/Kim Min Jung and Lee Hyo Jung/Lee Kyung Won will be replaced by Chang Li Ying/Chou Chia Chi (TPE) and Laura Choinet/Weny Rahmawati (FRA) respectively.

XD -- Hendra AG/Vita Marissa (INA) will replace Lee Young Dae/Lee Hyo Jung.

WS -- Top 8 confirmed-list (updated 29 Nov/09)

1) Saina Nehwal (IND)
2) Lu Lan (CHN)
3) Salakjit Ponsana (THA)
4) Yao Jie (NED)
5) Nicole Grether (GER)
6) Juliane Schenk (GER)
7) Porntip Buranaprasertsuk (THA)
8) Charmeine Reid (CAN)

Less interesting in women discipline...

[limsy]

chou chia chi is here?:eek::D

[george@chongwei]

so LYD will only be playing in the md category,.

[chris-ccc]

This is such a bummer! I really think they should cancel the whole thing and save the money for better preparation of next year SS final, to be held on a more reasonable realistic time with the real top 8 attendees in every departments!



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* To cancel it?: It's too late now.
* To get the top 8 to come?: Their National Associations must send them.
* To be held in a more reasonable realistic time?: There is only a very short period of time avaliable (between the last SS tournament and the first one for next year).
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[vpsingh]

I saw the ATP Tour Finals. It was such fun to see the best play each other as a final tournament of year. I don't think they pay more money than a Grand Slam or an ATP Tour Finals is any near to repute than a Grand Slam. But the players were there and they played class matches.:)

Compare this to SSM Finals. The tournament is a joke and players are making fun of limited number of badminton fans.:mad:
Perhaps, the World Badminton body should actually reduce number of tournaments to get better participations.

Hardly anything left in this tournament to watch, when every known player is opting out.

[Jonc108]

even the mighty Lin dan has a record of never beating LCW in his home ground. :p

... guess this is the last and only thing that LCW could hold against LD, especially after his last open claim that LD did not beat him in team events was shattered to pieces at the SC May this year... trust he could still enjoy it for a good while, or maybe forever... :D

[limsy]

... guess this is the last and only thing that LCW could hold against LD, especially after his last open claim that LD did not beat him in team events was shattered to pieces at the SC May this year... trust he could still enjoy it for a good while, or maybe forever... :D

go protest my friend
i suggest u to do so
u gather 1 million people or more in every country
comfirm the date adn time
protest that lyb didnt let lindan go malaysia open;)
oh oh,u can also help protest for ina open and singapore open
to be a greater legend
lindan can start by winning the ss he didnt won:D

[leonardklh]

latest withdrawal: Lu Lan of China..

replaced by: Wong Mew Choo of Malaysia

hooray.. WMC is playing...

[limsy]

latest withdrawal: Lu Lan of China..

replaced by: Wong Mew Choo of Malaysia

hooray.. WMC is playing...

is it?:D
yeah!
hope she wont overdo herself:D
WILL PEMUDA ASK WMC TO JUSTIFY HER CO 2007 WS WINNER STATUS?

[eRa@에라]

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* To cancel it?: It's too late now.
* To get the top 8 to come?: Their National Associations must send them.
* To be held in a more reasonable realistic time?: There is only a very short period of time avaliable (between the last SS tournament and the first one for next year).


* Why late la... even the draw, only Dec. 1 will release... everything is rushing2... no point.. if players can like, cancel participation/withdraw last minute throughout SS/baddy tourneys... why not BWF? hehehe... jk...jk...

* BWF must make the National Assoc.s send them la... show some respect to the int'l body... sure got way to make them come.. if Sudirman cup, the thomas cup and all the big cups, they're like definitely have to come, so BWF must make SS final a 'must attend event' also... how? dunno... :Dhehehe... it's BWF's job to think of a way... not me lah.. I will go and watch and support only :D... in front of the TV... kekeke

* Let's see... if we don't have Sea Games, or the East Asian Games (is it?) ... is there any more tourney before MO in Jan? MO starts late next year... playing back to back with interval about a week resting period, can't? Impossible? hmmm... BWF just need to manage their events properly, I think. Now their schedule are too pack and seems like not really doing a good job at planning it... that's why SSF is only held when e-body can just say bye bye to it ....

P/s: if this year is so busy with many big regional games, why la early2 year decide to add SSF in the busy calendar? it just shows how the planning and the managing are not working the way they should have worked... greedy...greedy...:o:)

[whack_d_net]

Yay for HAG/Vita ;)
So BWF finally overrule minimal 8 SS requirements, eh? :confused:
As for WMC, she may get exhausted before SEAG
Good news for MKY
LOL :D:D

[limsy]

Yay for HAG/Vita ;)
So BWF finally overrule minimal 8 SS requirements, eh? :confused:
As for WMC, she may get exhausted before SEAG
Good news for MKY
LOL :D:D

hehe
bwf wil say:8 ss or not,not important.come or not come is important;)

hehe
beware for the wonder kids ratchanok:p

[george@chongwei]

latest withdrawal: Lu Lan of China..

replaced by: Wong Mew Choo of Malaysia

hooray.. WMC is playing...
woh!.. are u sure lu lan withdrew?
where did u get your news from?;)

[limsy]

woh!.. are u sure lu lan withdrew?
where did u get your news from?;)

dont play play
leonard also friend of player;)

[eaglehelang]

*

* Let's see... if we don't have Sea Games, or the East Asian Games (is it?) ... is there any more tourney before MO in Jan? MO starts late next year... playing back to back with interval about a week resting period, can't? Impossible? hmmm.........

P/s: if this year is so busy with many big regional games, why la early2 year decide to add SSF in the busy calendar? it just shows how the planning and the managing are not working the way they should have worked... greedy...greedy...:o:)

Yup Era, it's East Asia Games, start 9 Dec. And I agree, these SEA & East Asia long time already the date fixed, this BWF still want to put in.:(

Jan 2010 ah, Korea SS is 1st lah, then only MO. February is Chinese New Year but that's the time the calendar is free. That also some may not want to participate cos..Chinese New Year lah, prepare for AE lah, all sorts of reason.:p:p
http://internationalbadminton.org/tournamentcalendar.aspx?id=73

[AlanY]

... guess this is the last and only thing that LCW could hold against LD, especially after his last open claim that LD did not beat him in team events was shattered to pieces at the SC May this year... trust he could still enjoy it for a good while, or maybe forever... :D
well, i've never lost a match to either LD or LCW since 2004!

[limsy]

Yup Era, it's East Asia Games, start 9 Dec. And I agree, these SEA & East Asia long time already the date fixed, this BWF still want to put in.:(

Jan 2010 ah, Korea SS is 1st lah, then only MO. February is Chinese New Year but that's the time the calendar is free. That also some may not want to participate cos..Chinese New Year lah, prepare for AE lah, all sorts of reason.:p:p
http://internationalbadminton.org/tournamentcalendar.aspx?id=73

no no no
have tc/uc qualify round in february:)

[george@chongwei]

no no no
have tc/uc qualify round in february:)
Where is the location of that event?

[limsy]

Where is the location of that event?
in thailand this time:D

[leonardklh]

from the BWF link

http://www.internationalbadminton.org/file_download.aspx?id=15366

download this link for the latest eligible player!!!

[jasonmarc]

from the BWF link

http://www.internationalbadminton.org/file_download.aspx?id=15366

download this link for the latest eligible player!!!

Wow, WMC SS rank 29 still managed to be in the list of 8.........:D

Really lots of top players absent............:o

[eaglehelang]

no no no
have tc/uc qualify round in february:)

ohh, ya lah, Asia one is 21-28 Feb, cannot also:p

[eRa@에라]

Aiseh! then BWF really need to like pull out one of their tourney to fill in the SSF so that E-BODY that is truly eligible can participate... ^-^

[chris-ccc]

Perhaps, the World Badminton body should actually reduce number of tournaments to get better participations.



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I agree. Perhaps, our number of SS tournaments could be reduced by half

Also, if our tournaments could be completed in the first 9 months of a year, then we would have the last 3 months, in which we can find the best week to stage our SS Masters Finals.
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[eRa@에라]

nod*nod* to chris.. good idea...why la this BWF people don't think like you do? ;)

[whack_d_net]

hehe
bwf wil say:8 ss or not,not important.come or not come is important;)


Hahaha yeah, i guess those -min 8 SS requirements- thingy is no longer important
Otherwise we'll get another "meeeeh" list. Upz :D:D

[chris-ccc]

* BWF must make the National Assoc.s send them la... show some respect to the int'l body... sure got way to make them come.. if Sudirman cup, the thomas cup and all the big cups, they're like definitely have to come, so BWF must make SS final a 'must attend event' also... how? dunno... :Dhehehe... it's BWF's job to think of a way... not me lah.. I will go and watch and support only :D... in front of the TV... kekeke



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* BWF must make SS final a 'must attend event'

From what I see, the SS Masters Finals was planned by BWF to showcase our best Badminton players. And also to reward our best players.

Unfortunately, currently most Badminton players are subjects of their National Associations. Our players cannot choose what they wish to do.

Perhaps, it is better for BWF to plan to showcase the best Badminton nations/teams. But we already have them; the Thomas Cup, the Uber Cup and the Sudirman Cup.
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[hcpoirot]

Wow I just checked out the new version of the SS Finals participants. The WS and WD categorieshad sunk so low indeed.

Unbelievable.

So many players and pairs withdraws.

MS , MD and XD still very strong.

WS and WD had sunk like the Titanic indeed. Not only China and Indonesia players declined to play here. Also the Japanese and the Koreans. OMG!!

Lets see the replacement in details:

WS: (After PHY, Lu Lan , Kim Moon Hi and Judith M withdraws)

Porntip B : Play 9 SS. Seven times lost in first round and 2 times in second round.

Charmaine Reid : BReak the records of all time. How on earth a player who NEVER win in any first round of SS ranked number 27 in SS rankings?

Because she play 10 SS events. Yes. 10 SS events and all lost in first round.

Wong Mew Choo : Only play 6 SS events. 4 times lost in first round. 1 time in second round. 1 time is a QF.

From the above 3 , WMC is the most decent player to been a replacement. And she should ranked higher than the other two although she only play 6 SS events.

But thanks to the "UNFAIR" BWF ranking points , she ranked lower than players who never been in SS quarter finals.

[hcpoirot]

For WD : (After the two Korean pairs withdraws)

The replacements:

Chou/Chia (Taipei) : Play 6 SS events. 1 QF. 3 second round. and 2 first round lost. Not that bad. They performed better than some pair above them.

Laura/Wenny (France) : Play 6 SS events. 4 times second round and 2 times first round lost. Just not good in top 8 at all.

Maybe BWF should just cut out WS and WD categories this year. The lines up just terrible for "The BEST EIGHT"

[hcpoirot]

Maybe BWF can make better scheduling even if they did not want to cut out any events.

Look at 2009 scheduling as example:

March, April and May only had one event each month. But June had 4 events in a month. What??

BWF can put India open and Asia Badminton Championship in March. Then China or / and Hong KOng SS from Nov to April. Sudirman Cup in May.

Then NOvember should only have one or none SS events. Then they can put SS Master Finals in Nov intead of Dec.

Or they can just put two different events in same week like tennis. Like US Open and Thailand Open can play at the same time.

German Open and Dutch Open can also play at the same time as warm up before All England.

[limsy]

actually
there is MORE problem than this
is that corrrect for wc held in august?:rolleyes:

[OneToughBirdie]

For LCW, this is a dream comes through that LD and CJ are not in, chances improve bigtime winning 2nd SSF especially playing at own 'kampung' (village)...imagine hitting birdies for 5 days and winning the SSF USD$40K cheque worth approx. 2 yrs wage for an engineer in MAS and in time for X'mas shopping for gifts for stewardess GF and chinese new year...life's good..thanks LYB, LD and all the comrades:p:D

[OneToughBirdie]

LL out...SSF becomes the 'tourney of the defeated'...Saina chances looks good...now, what if WMC wins, this gal plays hard and hurt, win nothing in SS....what a dandy for WMC to get the USD$40K prize... but I gonna cheer for Charmaine instead....now, what is Charmaine really wins the biggest prize in SS...that is indeed April 1st, a big joke...LL you are so kind....LOL

[ctjcad]

actually
there is MORE problem than this
is that corrrect for wc held in august?:rolleyes:
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=226 (for this yr's edition).

...life's good..thanks LYB, LD and all the comrades:p:D

...LL you are so kind....LOL
..just consider their absence as a Christmas present from LYB, LD, LL and the entire Chinese national squad..:cool:

As for all these last minute withdrawals, i just thought, perhaps if BWF can't confirm or secure all of the "top 8 players/pairs" to compete, they might as well cancel this entire event. At the end, instead of getting a well received and well attended event by all the top 8 players/pairs, as what BWF envisioned, all we/they get is an event akin to a yr end players get-together exhibition.

[OneToughBirdie]

As for all these last minute withdrawals, i just thought, perhaps if BWF can't confirm or secure all of the "top 8 players/pairs" to compete, they might as well cancel this entire event. At the end, instead of getting a well received and well attended event by all the top 8 players/pairs, as what BWF envisioned, all we/they get is an event akin to a yr end players get-together exhibition.[/quote]

Especially for WS and WD, provides a opportunity for those to earn so serious $$$ and who otherwise has no chance of winning SS anyway....yeah, some kind of year end weak players get-together exhibition with expensive entry tickets (if the same as last year price).

[chris-ccc]

Wow I just checked out the new version of the SS Finals participants. The WS and WD categorieshad sunk so low indeed.

Unbelievable.

So many players and pairs withdraws.

MS , MD and XD still very strong.

WS and WD had sunk like the Titanic indeed. Not only China and Indonesia players declined to play here. Also the Japanese and the Koreans. OMG!!

Lets see the replacement in details:

WS: (After PHY, Lu Lan , Kim Moon Hi and Judith M withdraws)

Porntip B : Play 9 SS. Seven times lost in first round and 2 times in second round.

Charmaine Reid : BReak the records of all time. How on earth a player who NEVER win in any first round of SS ranked number 27 in SS rankings?
Because she play 10 SS events. Yes. 10 SS events and all lost in first round.



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We need to remember the SS Masters Finals events are for SS players ranked under the SS ranking points.

Let's look at Charmaine Reid ....... World Ranking = 55, SS Ranking = 27
Then, look at Anna Rice .............. World Ranking = 41, SS Ranking = 77
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[chris-ccc]

..just consider their absence as a Christmas present from LYB, LD, LL and the entire Chinese national squad..:cool:



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Not the entire CHN squad. BCL will be there. ;););)
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[ctjcad]

Especially for WS and WD, provides a opportunity for those to earn so serious $$$ and who otherwise has no chance of winning SS anyway....yeah, some kind of year end weak players get-together exhibition with expensive entry tickets (if the same as last year price).
..that's only if one wins or becomes the runner-up. If one is just a group finisher, guess what, one will only get at most $4,250 (Singles) and $2,500 (Doubles) in cheque.

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Not the entire CHN squad. BCL will be there. ;););)
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..yes, a bit surprised BCL hasn't withdrawn. I guess our OTB doesn't consider BCL as a threat to LCW winning that big paycheque..;)

[dunmaster]

Chinese team just wants to keep BWF off their back, by sending a few playeres there.

[OneToughBirdie]

..that's only if one wins or becomes the runner-up. If one is just a group finisher, guess what, one will only get at most $4,250 (Singles) and $2,500 (Doubles) in cheque.

..yes, a bit surprised BCL hasn't withdrawn. I guess our OTB doesn't consider BCL as a threat to LCW winning that big paycheque..;)

With no CHN WS/WD, much easier to contest, now who volunteer to face CHN WS/WD?...with CHN in both, no chance lah and bridesmaids as usual....group finisher gets $4250/$2500, heck, winning 3rd round in SS pays less, cannot even buy ticket to fly home:D....on paper and playing at home, LCW must be the favorite, no guarantee he won't lose, pretty Bao is good but he is ain't no LD, the single player that on paper and in real life is above our Dato and would be favorite to win if he plays. Now, does Dato wanna play LD, heck if I am LCW, I tell LD stay home and we can work out a deal:p:D

[chris-ccc]

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The Super Series Masters Finals draw will be released today (Tuesday 01-Dec-2009).
Let's see if there will be more surprises shocking us in the next few hours. :p:p:p
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[singhzico]

And I am residing at 9km away from the venue. No banners and buntings.
:):):)
Isn't that normal:cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:

[singhzico]

WD hard. The rest got higher chance
Malaysia's biggest opponent in MD is definitely JJS/LYD.
As for MS, I think LCW's toughest opponent is......Peter Gade?
Don;t rule out taufik just yet:):):):cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:

[nokh88]

:):):)
Isn't that normal:cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:

This morning I saw some bantings (main picture of LCW) near the stadium.

[singhzico]

This morning I saw some bantings (main picture of LCW) near the stadium.
You meant in the stadium :cool::cool::cool::D:D:D

[chris-ccc]

This morning I saw some bantings (main picture of LCW) near the stadium.



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Wonder if BAM will also advertise this 2009 SSMF throughout Malaysia?
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[nokh88]

You meant in the stadium :cool::cool::cool::D:D:D

Bantings = Lamp Post Posters

[eaglehelang]

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Not the entire CHN squad. BCL will be there. ;););)
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And Guo/Xu Chen. At least then CHina can say they sent representative.;)


Nokh88, I reckon you going to watch?(though the ticket price is expensive) Awaiting reports from ya

[nokh88]

Nokh88, I reckon you going to watch?(though the ticket price is expensive) Awaiting reports from ya

Can't confirm yet. With all the big names missing, I will be very selective. And if I am there, what information do you want me to collect?

[nokh88]

Just checked the ticket info :

http://www.ticketpro.com.my/jnp/sports/badminton/301999-super-series-masters-final-2009.html

It used to be between RM10.00 to RM30.00 and free seating. Now they have level 1 & 2, with level 2 allocated with less seats and further away from the courts. With the withdrawals and high ticket prices, I won't be surprised that the earlier rounds on day sessions will be empty. Sad.....

[george@chongwei]

Wow I just checked out the new version of the SS Finals participants. The WS and WD categorieshad sunk so low indeed.

Unbelievable.

So many players and pairs withdraws.

MS , MD and XD still very strong.



Charmaine Reid : BReak the records of all time. How on earth a player who NEVER win in any first round of SS ranked number 27 in SS rankings?

Because she play 10 SS events. Yes. 10 SS events and all lost in first round.


yes, this makes me lol.:p she can even qualify rather than nicole grether which i think is better than her. remember the japan ss this year?;)

For LCW, this is a dream comes through that LD and CJ are not in, chances improve bigtime winning 2nd SSF especially playing at own 'kampung' (village)...imagine hitting birdies for 5 days and winning the SSF USD$40K cheque worth approx. 2 yrs wage for an engineer in MAS and in time for X'mas shopping for gifts for stewardess GF and chinese new year...life's good..thanks LYB, LD and all the comrades:p:D
Don't jealous la, one tough birdie:D:p who knows lyb and CBA are so kind enough:cool:

This morning I saw some bantings (main picture of LCW) near the stadium.
last minute action from BAM , eh?:rolleyes:

[SibugiChai]

I bet Chinese Players wanna be there to win the $$$ but China BA dun let them go to let IBF know, who is the Bossssss

[george@chongwei]

Just checked the ticket info :

http://www.ticketpro.com.my/jnp/sports/badminton/301999-super-series-masters-final-2009.html

It used to be between RM10.00 to RM30.00 and free seating. Now they have level 1 & 2, with level 2 allocated with less seats and further away from the courts. With the withdrawals and high ticket prices, I won't be surprised that the earlier rounds on day sessions will be empty. Sad.....
yes, agree with you. Just like last year's event in Kota Kinabalu, early rounds matches will be full of empty seats u can see.

[george@chongwei]

yes, this makes me lol.:p she can even qualify rather than nicole grether which i think is better than her. remember the japan ss this year?;)


oops, i mistaken.. Nicole Grether is here too.. and both reid and grether will team up together and play in WD too. Christmas comes early for them too.:D hope the crowd in JB will enjoy their 'match' though;):p

[eRa@에라]

Maybe BWF can make better scheduling even if they did not want to cut out any events.

Look at 2009 scheduling as example:

March, April and May only had one event each month. But June had 4 events in a month. What??

BWF can put India open and Asia Badminton Championship in March. Then China or / and Hong KOng SS from Nov to April. Sudirman Cup in May.

Then NOvember should only have one or none SS events. Then they can put SS Master Finals in Nov intead of Dec.

Or they can just put two different events in same week like tennis. Like US Open and Thailand Open can play at the same time.

German Open and Dutch Open can also play at the same time as warm up before All England.


it's totally possible to get the most reasonable realistic time for the SSF... :)

[wawakkk]

Draw of SSMF09

http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/draws.aspx?id=F85070F6-704D-4753-AF19-423D8B392191

no schedule just yet, only the draw :):)

[chris-ccc]

Draw of SSMF09

http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/draws.aspx?id=F85070F6-704D-4753-AF19-423D8B392191

no schedule just yet, only the draw :):)



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Probably all the "confirmed" players haven't arrived yet. :p:p:p
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[nokh88]

yes, agree with you. Just like last year's event in Kota Kinabalu, early rounds matches will be full of empty seats u can see.

Yeah, very sad scenario, like local school competitions, MSSJ.


oops, i mistaken.. Nicole Grether is here too.. and both reid and grether will team up together and play in WD too. Christmas comes early for them too.:D hope the crowd in JB will enjoy their 'match' though;):p

Correct me if I am wrong, the last time they played in JB, they had a dispute with a line call and lost the first set, subsequently they retired early in the second set. To protest I think.

[chris-ccc]

Probably all the "confirmed" players haven't arrived yet. :p:p:p



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OK, the confirmed players have arrived. :cool::cool::cool:

We shall now look at the Draw for Day 1 of this 2009 Super Series Masters Finals:
click here (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/draw.aspx?id=F85070F6-704D-4753-AF19-423D8B392191&draw=4)
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[OneToughBirdie]

[quote=george@chongwei;1315253]yes, this makes me lol.:p she can even qualify rather than nicole grether which i think is better than her. remember the japan ss this year?;)
Now, Georgie...don't critic our CR, Canada Boleh representative...if CR pulls out, this SSF is even worse...hehehe!!:p

Don't jealous la, one tough birdie:D:p who knows lyb and CBA are so kind enough:cool:

Jealous, you got it wrong Georgie...just emphasize that without LD and CJ, LCW has a better than 50% chance of winning it all, and USD40K is >RM150K and that is far more $$$ than a typical professional worker makes in MAS in 2 years, and that is to play baddy for 5 days...the fact is LCW is so, so lucky to play for MAS who invest so heavily in baddy and see baddy as one sport that can bring her glory, LCW gets to keep 100% earnings, earn bonus, lifetime pension, endorsement, Datukship, etc. and attract stewardess (many of them lah..now, I am really jealous lah...hahaha!!), the point being for a high school dropout to make a fortune in a relatively short period of time, so what is there to complain about pressure, stress, etc. The real world is a lot worse and painful especially with the world economy in a tailspin. Sure LCW has tremendous talent but someone has to pay to groom that talent to be a world class player, and for that he should be thankful to the MAS government and MAS tax-payers.;)

[george@chongwei]

u already said it out loud..its obviously that u jealous..uncle birdie:D

lol.

[OneToughBirdie]

u already said it out loud..its obviously that u jealous..uncle birdie:D

lol.

I know, I know Georgie...with all the good looking chicks, stewardess and all flocking towards our Dato, any straight males in MAS or anywhere else not gonna be green with envy?;) Except that at my age, they could be a handful and I may not know what the heck to do with them...hahaha!!! LOL!!:p:D

[chris-ccc]

Jealous, you got it wrong Georgie...just emphasize that without LD and CJ, LCW has a better than 50% chance of winning it all, ......



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Only 'A better than 50% chance of winning' for LCW at this 2009 SSMF?

Some Malaysian BCers are already thinking it's a 'MUST' for LCW to win. ;););)
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[limsy]

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Only 'A better than 50% chance of winning' for LCW at this 2009 SSMF?

Some Malaysian BCers are already thinking it's a 'MUST' for LCW to win. ;););)
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so
it is a famous badadum theory vs pemuda theory?:eek::p

[ctjcad]

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Some Malaysian BCers are already thinking it's a 'MUST' for LCW to win. ;););)
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..are you sure it's "some"??..:confused:

[limsy]

..are you sure it's "some"??..:confused:

yes
more than 1(pemuda)
and also jasonmarc
and pemuda brother,x ball;)

[ctjcad]

..for Mr. jasonmarc and X Ball??..:confused:

[limsy]

..for Mr. jasonmarc and X Ball??..:confused:

read the thread of the MUST carefully for jasonmarc:)
he say,no more excuse to deliver;)

for x ball
he is asking chris to revise the post that chriss said bcl,pg or th have a GOOD CHANCE
;)

[ctjcad]

.."no more excuse to deliver" equals "must"?? did jasonmarc mean that?..:confused:
..X Ball requesting to revise the posts equals "must"??..:confused:
(i'll find them later)..

[george@chongwei]

I would wait to find out what jasonmarc will reply after this:p

[limsy]

.."no more excuse to deliver" equals "must"?? did jasonmarc mean that?..:confused:
..X Ball requesting to revise the posts equals "must"??..:confused:
(i'll find them later)..


I would wait to find out what jasonmarc will reply after this:p

we will see what they say later
as for chris
u can see jason post as the 2nd post in the must thread;)
for x ball post,i cant help:p

[jasonmarc]

.."no more excuse to deliver" equals "must"?? did jasonmarc mean that?..:confused:
..X Ball requesting to revise the posts equals "must"??..:confused:
(i'll find them later)..

Chris, did you found anything.........LOL but for sure i have pointed out that a must win is not equal to sure win..........just no more excusses for their lost in this tournament ( if it do happpened !).........and for this i am more on kkk/tbh instead of LCW...as kkk/tbh losts are always related to their tireness of long playing duration non stop since Danmark Open and they have been only lost to MK/HS, LYD/JJS and team mates only........

For this SSMF, Only a very 'tired' LYD/JJS stands in their way.....they shd not have excuses if they lost again. Oops...just noticed they have lost to their team mates again....sigh, this time the Fuzzy pair....hahaha :D:D


I would wait to find out what jasonmarc will reply after this:p

I am ok with all this...........relax lah...George...:D

[Pemuda]

Chris, did you found anything.........LOL but for sure i have pointed out that a must win is not equal to sure win..........just no more excusses for their lost in this tournament ( if it do happpened !).........and for this i am more on kkk/tbh instead of LCW...as kkk/tbh losts are always related to their tireness of long playing duration non stop since Danmark Open and they have been only lost to MK/HS, LYD/JJS and team mates only........

For this SSMF, Only a very 'tired' LYD/JJS stands in their way.....they shd not have excuses if they lost again. Oops...just noticed they have lost to their team mates again....sigh, this time the Fuzzy pair....hahaha :D:D



I am ok with all this...........relax lah...George...:D

I tried explaining to some of these Bolehians but somehow they just dont get it. Herd mentality ... all it takes is one Bolehian going off tangent, the rest of the herd will follow. Maybe the fault lies in our education system.

What!!!!@@#!$ KKK/TBH lost!!!?? Aiyooooyooo, WR1 MD also can bunkus-ed playing at home and against a weakened field?? Maybe it is due to exhaustion, I mean they had to fly to HK, play some badminton there, do some shopping, hang out at Lan Kwai Fong then they had to catch a plane to Shanghai and play some more badminton etc etc etc and then fly back to KL then off to JB. The schedule is no joke, dude. It was very cold in China and now it is back to hot in JB. Moving from one hotel to another. Its a very hard and tough life.

It is gonna be interesting to see how LYD/JJS perform.

[limsy]

Chris, did you found anything.........LOL but for sure i have pointed out that a must win is not equal to sure win..........just no more excusses for their lost in this tournament ( if it do happpened !).........and for this i am more on kkk/tbh instead of LCW...as kkk/tbh losts are always related to their tireness of long playing duration non stop since Danmark Open and they have been only lost to MK/HS, LYD/JJS and team mates only........

For this SSMF, Only a very 'tired' LYD/JJS stands in their way.....they shd not have excuses if they lost again. Oops...just noticed they have lost to their team mates again....sigh, this time the Fuzzy pair....hahaha :D:D



let see
i found it immersely funny when some of those kkk/tbh fans asking kkk/tbh beat everyone on the earth to win this and that;)
they thought their pair is the best in the world;)
should and must beat this pair and that pair,winning this tournament and that tournament
they want their koo/tan to dominant the md field;)
this is kinda funny that they have soooooo much confident in their pair to MUST and SHOULD WIN a b c d e to z tournament;)

[limsy]

I tried explaining to some of these Bolehians but somehow they just dont get it. Herd mentality ... all it takes is one Bolehian going off tangent, the rest of the herd will follow. Maybe the fault lies in our education system.

What!!!!@@#!$ KKK/TBH lost!!!?? Aiyooooyooo, WR1 MD also can bunkus-ed playing at home and against a weakened field?? Maybe it is due to exhaustion, I mean they had to fly to HK, play some badminton there, do some shopping, hang out at Lan Kwai Fong then they had to catch a plane to Shanghai and play some more badminton etc etc etc and then fly back to KL then off to JB. The schedule is no joke, dude. It was very cold in China and now it is back to hot in JB. Moving from one hotel to another. Its a very hard and tough life.

It is gonna be interesting to see how LYD/JJS perform.

and the next second
i found pemuda is more supportive than koo_fan to defense koo/tan defeat by providing sooooooooooo many excuse:eek:
koo_fan must have do many hard work to convert pemuda:D

[jasonmarc]

let see
i found it immersely funny when some of those kkk/tbh fans asking kkk/tbh beat everyone on the earth to win this and that;)
they thought their pair is the best in the world;)
should and must beat this pair and that pair,winning this tournament and that tournament
they want their koo/tan to dominant the md field;)
this is kinda funny that they have soooooo much confident in their pair to MUST and SHOULD WIN a b c d e to z tournament;)

Yes, nothing wrong with that, if you want to be the Champion you have to beat every one in order to be one great champion. Its nothing funny about that. ;)

Actually is we hope them to be the best in the world :p, but seems they still cant do it at the moment, and his fan is still working hard every time to find excuses for their losts...................poor thing ! :(

[eaglehelang]

For this SSMF, Only a very 'tired' LYD/JJS stands in their way.....they shd not have excuses if they lost again. Oops...just noticed they have lost to their team mates again....sigh, this time the Fuzzy pair....hahaha :D:D

..:D

If LYD/JJS very 'tired' at their 4th tournament, then KKK/TBH more 'tired' lor, 5th tourney in 7 weeks,4 where KKK also played XD. Plus 2 more weeks to come after this. No matter how you count, still more than LYD/JJS. :p:p:D
The champs MK/Hendra also could not sustain at 4th tournament (just teasing)

Just see if my theory on trend comes true.;)

[jasonmarc]

If LYD/JJS very 'tired' at their 4th tournament, then KKK/TBH more 'tired' lor, 5th tourney in 7 weeks,4 where KKK also played XD. Plus 2 more weeks to come after this. No matter how you count, still more than LYD/JJS. :p:p:D

Just see if my theory on trend comes true.;)

But kkk/tbh already started losing since HK Open their 2nd tournament, but untill now LYD/JJS still with their winning streak at their 4th tournament ...........:D

Wah,...now comparing who's is more tired.....liao....:D:D

If, Helang's theory comes true.......kkk/tbh will be a goner in coming SEA Games............their 8th tournament....

[ctjcad]

I would wait to find out what jasonmarc will reply after this:p
..jasonmarc has given his explanation...no sign of X Ball to give a confirmation..

we will see what they say later
as for chris
u can see jason post as the 2nd post in the must thread;)
for x ball post,i cant help:p
- Yes, i saw his post. Nowhere did he mention "must"...further, he explained with his post above (quoted below) that he never meant that they "must" win.
- No proof of X Ball's post??..
As long as no confirmation from both jasonmarc and X Ball, it seems there's only 1 person not "some", isn't it??..;)

Chris, did you found anything.........LOL but for sure i have pointed out that a must win is not equal to sure win..........just no more excusses for their lost in this tournament ( if it do happpened !).........
...
..thank you for clearing what you meant in post #3..:cool:

[eaglehelang]

But kkk/tbh already started losing since HK Open their 2nd tournament, but untill now LYD/JJS still with their winning streak at their 4th tournament ...........:D

Wah,...now comparing who's is more tired.....liao....:D:D

If, Helang's theory comes true.......kkk/tbh will be a goner in coming SEA Games............their 8th tournament....

Ya lah, you 'complain' that tiredness is excuse mah.:p:D
HK was KKK/TBH's 3rd tourney. SEA is 6th tourney but two events = team & individual, KKK also playing XD in individual. If you want to separate as 2 also, total= 7 .

Nooo, not SEA Games goner.... figure it out yourself. :p
You've been following KKK/TBH matches for some time, should know the 'trends'.;)
You go by KKK/TBH should win this & that, I look at their past record, at their stamina level,their opponents,etc,etc. LYD/JJS stamina better than the other 3 MD pairs.

[jasonmarc]

Ya lah, you 'complain' that tiredness is excuse mah.:p:D
HK was KKK/TBH's 3rd tourney. SEA is 6th tourney but two events = team & individual, KKK also playing XD in individual. If you want to separate as 2 also, total= 7 .

Nooo, not SEA Games goner.... figure it out yourself. :p
You've been following KKK/TBH matches for some time, should know the 'trends'.;)
You go by KKK/TBH should win this & that, I look at their past record, at their stamina level,their opponents,etc,etc. LYD/JJS stamina better than the other 3 MD pairs.

With your understanding about their trend, what do you think about their chances in this SSMF.........Helang! :p

[eaglehelang]

With your understanding about their trend, what do you think about their chances in this SSMF.........Helang! :p

For PAW purposes, I have PM you my prediction,but PAW at your own risk :p

[jasonmarc]

For PAW purposes, I have PM you my prediction,but PAW at your own risk :p

Thansk, Helang. :p

[george@chongwei]

I am ok with all this...........relax lah...George...:D
so u are very relax huh? i'm always relax as usual here:cool:
seems that u are used to it.. will u be going to the stadium to watch badminton?:confused:

[jasonmarc]

so u are very relax huh? i'm always relax as usual here:cool:
seems that u are used to it.. will u be going to the stadium to watch badminton?:confused:

Maybe SF and F .............:D

[george@chongwei]

Maybe SF and F .............:D
Why don't go earlier round? more cheaper:D
take more pics!:rolleyes:

[jasonmarc]

Why don't go earlier round? more cheaper:D
take more pics!:rolleyes:

Is not about the price,.....got works to do....!

Why take photos ?.there is no WSX, HHY or Reiko.....:D:D:D

[chris-ccc]

Is not about the price,.....got works to do....!

Why take photos ?.there is no WSX, HHY or Reiko.....:D:D:D



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Our 2009 Super Series Masters Finals Pics Thread is out:
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=78402
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[dassad]

LD will be participating in the EA games, so he skips this. BCL who will be sent to this SS Final, will skip the EA games. :)

what are these EA games about?

[abedeng]

East Asian Games, happens once every 4 years. Like a mini Asian Games for East Asian nations China, HK, Macau, the 2 Koreas, Japan, Mongolia, Chinese Taipei etc.

[chris-ccc]

what are these EA games about?



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Have a read of this thread : 2009 East Asian Games in Hong Kong (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77334)
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