Peter Gade's trick shot against Gopi [Archive] - Badminton Central Discussion Forums

Steplantis

01-28-2003, 07:14 AM

Just thought I'd let people know that on the Badminton TV site you can see video footage of the trick shot that Gade pulled off against Gopi in the final of the 2001 Copenhagen Masters (??). A masterpiece of deception!
There's also an interesting bit of video about playing a backhand lift with deception - very useful and used by lots of top players. Hendrawan springs to mind.

www.badmintontv.dk

Cheers,

Stephen

ronk

01-28-2003, 10:08 AM

Interesting. I must try it but I will probably fit the shuttlecork into the net :).

Ron

TOmike

01-28-2003, 11:09 AM

err perhaps a more direct link, i find my danish is a bit lacking :p

plaYer

01-28-2003, 11:42 AM

holy crap. wish i had the control and confidence to do that as the last point of a match ! it's pretty impressive that gopi got to it too. i wouldn't even have managed to reach it :D

SmashingBird

01-28-2003, 02:36 PM

ultimate deception....

mojoe

01-28-2003, 05:00 PM

whoa thats some crazy stuff... imagine the confidence in that shot... and then imagine how many of us are imitating that shot right now as we are watching it :D

btw, heres a more specific link for u TOmike, the one on the left is the trick shot, and the right is the deceptive backhand lift

http://www.badmintontv.dk/tip.htm

Winex West Can

01-28-2003, 06:50 PM

Hahaha...I wondered how many kids in Denmark are practising that shot right now.

That's a good one. Amazing control.

SmashingBird

01-28-2003, 07:07 PM

i m not in Denmark but i m practising tha rit now..LOL:D :D

yonexfanatic

01-28-2003, 07:16 PM

ohh man, that's nice...time for me to pracitce that, haha

Winex West Can

01-28-2003, 07:30 PM

Originally posted by SmashingBird
i m not in Denmark but i m practising tha rit now..LOL:D :D

SB, you gotta work on your other stuff first but you can always demo that trick for Frank! :D

Yodums

01-28-2003, 07:34 PM

LOL I have to practice that.

timeless

01-28-2003, 07:39 PM

LOL Sweet :D

Can anyone translate Danish? I'm very interested to know what he's saying in all those tutorial video clips on that site.

SmashingBird

01-28-2003, 07:44 PM

Originally posted by Winex West Can
SB, you gotta work on your other stuff first but you can always demo that trick for Frank! :D

Watch me do that 15 times in a game to beat frank..LOL...HAHAHA...that would be so funny....:D :D

double

01-28-2003, 08:36 PM

Peter is using MP99 in the demontration! Is he using it during the match also?!

Anyone can translate the danish? Thanks a lot!!!!

SmashingBird

01-28-2003, 08:40 PM

I remember him sayin he is gonna change to the mp77...but not sure when

Joseph

01-28-2003, 09:46 PM

wow, what a trick shot...i've seen a similar shot like that except with overhead shots. It doesnt really look as cool though.

coops241180

01-29-2003, 03:11 AM

now that is damn clever - do you reckon he practices it?

i know that wheni get back on court i'll be practicing it - just to show off to the ladies at our club

LOL

Neil

Mag

01-29-2003, 03:24 AM

I read in an interview that he's been working on that shot for years in training... This was the first time he used it in a big match -- a on a match point too, if I remember correctly...

kwun

01-29-2003, 03:31 AM

i tried it at home today. not as easy as it may look. the hardest thing is to make deceptive, ie. don't let your opponent know your intention.

and also the contact point is to the right side of your right wrist, but if you start off with a backhand net, you need to aim it at the left side of your right wrist. you need to shift and bend your wrist around.

Matt Ross

01-29-2003, 09:04 AM

Hi,

And i thought I could pull off trick shots, that shot is just incredible. To actually be able to that is is amazing, to be able to do that WITH decpetion is amazing, and to do it on match point, really does just some it up.
What i find amazing though is the deceptive lift. How he can can that, so fast aswell with great racket head control is just unbelievable, a great singles player.

Matt

Fourcas

01-29-2003, 09:26 AM

i'll gladly do some translation on this site. danish is well like....my first language..... .

i' ll do it later this week when i have the time for it! At the same time i would like to ask kwun....

kwun, how about putting links to this site with my interpretation in the faq section or a basic stroke section?

kwun

04-10-2003, 11:04 PM

Fourcas, sorry i completely missed your request. if you have material to contribute to the FAQ, i will love to review and post it up!

Rohly

04-11-2003, 02:18 PM

Wow what a shot. It must of taken years to learn it.

nSmash

04-11-2003, 03:04 PM

Originally posted by Rohly
Wow what a shot. It must of taken years to learn it.
I don't think it took years to learn since at that level, players were born
with amazing hand-eye coordination and spatial awareness to begin with.
However, it probably took a long time to develop enough consistency to
have confidence executing it at tense, crucial moments and know that it's
still going to work.

kwun

04-11-2003, 03:14 PM

and the confidence to bear the embarrassment if it didn't!

actually, i tried it the other day. during net drill. i did it out of a whim, didn't even practice for it. mine went over the net but not as tight as Gade's. to my surprise, the guy on the other side of the net managed to catch it.

then i realize that the shot isn't as deceptive as it is tricky. the fact that one has to go around the shuttle and wait till it drops down to waist level before one can hit it already gave away all intentions.

Rohly

04-11-2003, 03:28 PM

i think the way Gade plays it is deceptive but i agree if you don't do it very well then it might not be so good.

Yodums

04-11-2003, 08:01 PM

This shot is not hard. As kwun mentioned, he did it out of the blue on a net drill and I did it at practice and during play several times. During play I managed to trick someone since he thought I had missed the bird some how and that was in doubles! It was pretty tight. Tight enough that the main choice he'd have would be to raise the bird again unless he wanted to risk making the bird roll over the tape.

Of course I would never do it in a tournament unless I mastered it and especially on match point. Peter Gade must have had lots of confidence during that rally. He managed to do that on a singles court and make it tight to the net as possible.

At practice I tried to do it in singles! It either went way too high and the person got it or it went out since it was too high. Didn't have the light touch.

Yodums

Phil

04-11-2003, 09:51 PM

I found that if you switch the grip towards a panhandle grip (but not all the way, about 45 degrees), it is much easier to do this shot. Usually when I try it, it goes too far and lands wide of the court.

Phil

coops241180

04-12-2003, 08:13 AM

it was my dad'd junior classes last session this weekend and as a final lesson the top class were given a lesson deception and trick shots. my dad has a lot of trick hots on film, and i brought this one along to show the kids. we didn't have many attending because it's easter hols and the last class so we had a full court between two. I found that Gade's shot is all about where you take the shuttle - he actually takes it very low down and as far to the right of the court as possible. This means he had to take the drop shot at the net while still moving past the shuttle in order to get the correct position to play the trick. the rest is just practice and co-ordination. we all tried it and began by simply learning to play the second part of the shot froma feed - not bothering with the fake drop - just playing the other part. this part is fairly easy when not moving in, like any other low taken net return. but as soon as you need to move to the shuttle from elsewhere on court it becomes difficult to get into the position since it takes nerve to play a very unnatural shot for most of us.

Neil

Joel_y

05-15-2003, 09:35 PM

It is fun, but maybe not that efficient for most people. I mean, maybe before you turn back, the birdie might hit your butt already.

http://www.badmintontv.dk/klip/finter/finte2w_adsl.htm

This board program is very good.

Yodums

05-15-2003, 09:52 PM

haha, I never had that happened. If it hits your rear then that means you're going to be executing the shot from like the service line or something not as tight as you would if you were at the net.

modious

05-15-2003, 09:54 PM

Joel_y: That "poor" fella who was on the receiving end of that shot was Pullela Gopichand from India. He was the Mens Singles Champion of the All England Cahmpionships in 2001.

Joel_y

05-15-2003, 10:18 PM

To: Yodums

You never get hit maybe because you did not use it against players much better and faster than you or you did not use it enough... Just kidding.

But in reality, I guess even you get very close to net, your rear might still be a target, because your opponent could brush the birdie at top of net from left to right if he is fast enough.

I have not being court ever since I watch it. Got to try it...even that means risk my rear....

To: modious

Thanks. Yes, I read it from beginning of this topic.
I happened to run into this link by accident, then I wanted to share it with this board(thought it is new), then the board program directly brought my post here...that is why I was asking who is it.

Gobi was on his prime time in 2001 when he won the final in All_England against Chen Hong who was tortured by Roslin for an extra long semi final.
My impression is Gobi himself is very crafty too.

Jay1234

05-20-2003, 10:51 PM

MAG said
|I read in an interview that he's been working on that shot for years in training... This was the first time he used it in a big match -- a on a match point too, if I remember correctly...|

there would be soo much presure on you. Especially if u worked on that shot in training for along time, first debu, game point. Not to mention all the peps watching you.

:eek:

bluejeff

06-21-2003, 07:16 PM

Ok, I know this is old, but......
For those people who haven't seen this should take a look at this short video.
It's Peter Gade's crazy shot! :rolleyes:

http://bluejeff.homestead.com/files/finte201.wmv
Please save it.......to your computer for saving the bandwidth purpose

Note: the bandwidth isn't much....:p

BTW, let me know what you guys think!

AMRaider

06-21-2003, 07:50 PM

Very impressive fake. I would have been totally fooled as well.

corey0528

06-21-2003, 07:51 PM

this shot was discussed before under a thread called " Peter Gade's trick shot against Gopi."

angelus_2012

06-22-2003, 04:53 AM

how do you do that Peter Gade's trick shot? i heard most of u all said 'tight netshot'
but can you please explain further about how peter gade does that shot?

i can't download the video because the link is missing

Yodums

06-22-2003, 07:01 PM

Originally posted by corey0528
this shot was discussed before under a thread called " Peter Gade's trick shot against Gopi."

I'm confused. *Looks at title of the thread* This is the thread you mentioned. Haha! I think if this comment is directed at bluejeff then I think what he is trying to say is .. it's faster yet saves bandwidth if you save it to your hard drive ;)

Hugo

06-22-2003, 08:19 PM

Originally posted by Yodums
I'm confused. *Looks at title of the thread* This is the thread you mentioned. Haha! I think if this comment is directed at bluejeff then I think what he is trying to say is .. it's faster yet saves bandwidth if you save it to your hard drive ;)

Actually, Bluejeff posted his post under a new thread and either Kwun or Cheung just recently merged the two together.

TartanSparkle

06-30-2003, 03:28 PM

Hello All,

I don't care if none of you believe me but I have pulled off that trick shot before. There is obviously NO contest in terms of context to the actual shot, but it really is easy to do once you get the hang of it. I must be honest though and tell you that I did mine during a doubles game.........and it is somewhat easier to pull off in an extended court (doubles lines).

Here's an new one for you folks that I sometimes use for a bit of fun. Same idea, except when going to play a normal backhand, let it drop down and flick your hand straight down and hit it. So you are playing the shot from North and you trick and hit the shuttle at South. :)

Have fun doing this new one!!

TS

Pointfore.Ca

07-04-2003, 04:39 PM

Are you referring to the one where he approaches the net with a backhand and then lets the shuttle drop below his wrist and then he hits it cross-court?

I think this is one of the links:
http://www.badmintontv.dk/klip/finter/finte2w_adsl.htm

Thomas

10-20-2003, 12:41 PM

Hi
I´m from Austria, and i have found a video from peter gade: Here in austria it`s called "Netz Finte"
Look at this: for IDSN http://www.badmintontv.dk/klip/finter/finte2w_isdn.htm
for DSL http://www.badmintontv.dk/klip/finter/finte2w_adsl.htm

CU Tom

BobbyGeneric

10-20-2003, 02:10 PM

whilst i'm sure the thought is much appreciated, this video was already posted here more than once!

fallen

10-20-2003, 02:29 PM

why does peter gade have to make that shot so difficult? all he had to do was fake that straight net drop and then snap his wrist to the right at the last moment to do that cross court net drop.

Rohly

10-20-2003, 03:31 PM

I can see your point but you have to admit it is pretty cool.

Dill

10-20-2003, 04:34 PM

Fallen

Sometimes deception is not all about making an easy shot, even more so at that level.

freeheeler

12-12-2003, 06:06 PM

still have a copy of this shot, I cannot link to it anymore?

|BLAI|

12-13-2003, 07:52 PM

i can't seem to c the video of this shot.........
all i c is ppl working out wen i d/l the video........
can u guys give me the site for peter gade's crazy trick shot?

Bor98

12-14-2003, 06:30 PM

|BLAI|
freeheeler

Try the link posted by either Thomas or Pointfore.Ca (a couple of posts above you 2)
:)

tropicalmouse

12-14-2003, 08:58 PM

I do that three or four times a game, sometimes with my eyes closed.

SmashingBird

12-15-2003, 02:35 AM

Originally posted by tropicalmouse
I do that three or four times a game, sometimes with my eyes closed.

Actually that shot is pretty useless if you think about it, your opponent might be tricked the first time they see that shot but the second time they will know for sure because as soon as you let that shot drop below ur waist, you pretty much have no other choice of shot. So to think Peter actually spent time on that shot is not too smart. This is not one of those shots you can use in games, thats why Peter never did it again because is a one time deal.

quagmire

12-24-2003, 11:42 AM

Originally posted by SmashingBird
Actually that shot is pretty useless if you think about it, your opponent might be tricked the first time they see that shot but the second time they will know for sure because as soon as you let that shot drop below ur waist, you pretty much have no other choice of shot. So to think Peter actually spent time on that shot is not too smart. This is not one of those shots you can use in games, thats why Peter never did it again because is a one time deal.

how about if you fake that on your second attempt? make it look like you'll be doing that shot again, let it drop low and if you see your opponent anticipating it, hit it over backhand in front of you. :D you'll probably catch your opponent flat footed if executed properly no?

SmashingBird

12-24-2003, 12:47 PM

Originally posted by quagmire
how about if you fake that on your second attempt? make it look like you'll be doing that shot again, let it drop low and if you see your opponent anticipating it, hit it over backhand in front of you. :D you'll probably catch your opponent flat footed if executed properly no?

I don't think you have that much time. HAHA:D
Look over and see where your opponent is then take it backhand again? By that time the bird has already hit the ground ten times probably.:D But anyway, if you can pull it off, it will still take some time and is probably better to spend those time working on fundamental skills and trick shots :P

quagmire

12-25-2003, 12:53 AM

hehe its possible man! you'll only be faking it anyway. just let the shuttle drop lower than you normally would take it with the same stance as the trick shot. add more deception by looking crosscourt as if analyzing the distance.

i played with someone like this before, facing one end while returning the shuttle towards the other end of the net. very deceptive at first but you will get used to it if done too often.

of course there are some complications like you wont be able to lift it high enough if your opponent rushes forward at you since the shuttle is already too low. anyway, just looking at possibilities in exploiting the trick shot if one can actually pull it off :D

if you actually spent lots of time practicing the first trick shot, there very little to lose in doing more right? :D its all for fun anyway :)

cappy75

12-25-2003, 01:57 AM

Trick shots are good if you use them sparingly and strategically. Use them even less than your least favorite shot because it's inefficient, difficult to execute and so easy for other players to get used to them. All your opponent has to do is properly position himself and wait for that extra sec... for you to make your shot and he got you already. Also, the lower you take your shots the less options you have. IMO, it's better to learn how to change pacing of the game to disrupt your opponents' rhythm than master a few trick shots even though those shots are impressive when good.

NB1700

10-22-2004, 10:12 AM

http://www.claes2.modulweb.dk/badminton/finter/finte201.wmv

Arcos

10-22-2004, 10:48 AM

oh man, thats cool :cool:
gotta learn that neat trick :D

dpc1l

10-22-2004, 10:50 AM

Wow

That must be a seriously low percentage shot!

badlittlecal

10-22-2004, 11:52 AM

who are the players???

Anyone got the whole video of that match???

Apitat

10-22-2004, 11:55 AM

Damn, I'd hate to be that other guy...

demolidor

10-22-2004, 12:25 PM

That's Peter Gade doing the trickshot. It's already been on this forum before though, search for Peter Gade's trickshot or something like that.
But to do that on matchpoint nontheless ... :cool: Awesome!

jkusmanto

10-22-2004, 12:26 PM

who are the players???
The guy who did the trick is (I think you know him already) Peter Gade.
The other one is Pullela Gopichand of India.
The match was in the Final of the 2001 Copenhagen Masters.

demolidor

10-22-2004, 12:27 PM

Haha, good timing kusmanto :)
Here's the old thread: http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8636&highlight=trick

cooler

10-22-2004, 02:50 PM

yeah, please do a quick search before posting so call new stuff.

goldmedal

10-22-2004, 03:14 PM

it looks like that shot won him the match. he must of had some balls to play that shot on match point

fishmilk

10-22-2004, 03:25 PM

woudln't work twice though...cuz gopi was pretty close to getting it...the 2nd time, the second gopi sees peter not hitting a net shot he could jump back to the middle and anticipate anything...at this point, peter would be forced to follow-through with the same trick that won't work, or do a lift and get smashed at...

goldmedal

10-22-2004, 03:33 PM

GiGaChip

10-22-2004, 08:29 PM

It was Gopichand? And all this time I thought it was an asian guy! (Must be my colors or something....) Now its obvious it was him -_- Nonetheless, I've only tried that shot once, and it went out, and my friend thought it was stupid because I didn't conceal it. Might as well just make a late cross court shot. Fun tricks though...it's hard!!!

demolidor

10-23-2004, 05:11 AM

It was Gopichand? And all this time I thought it was an asian guy! (Must be my colors or something....)

What, he isn't asian :confused: ;)

Arcos

10-23-2004, 09:37 AM

What, he isn't asian :confused: ;)

india is in asia ;)

timbar

10-24-2004, 06:14 PM

Pretty confident shot to take...:)

wedgewenis

10-24-2004, 10:17 PM

Pretty confident shot to take...:)

what a great way to win a match

its not that hard at all to perform technically

it just has to be in the right spot or you simply dont have any chance of pulling it off.

i tried practicing it a bit a few times after seeing the clip ... takes awhile to figure out but once you start making contact with the shuttle its pretty simple

dont think i will ever be good enough to rely on it in a game though

coryprice

10-25-2004, 07:43 AM

Something else I noticed about this cross court net shot by Peter Gade: it seems to be very accurate as far as barely above the tape.

Some net shots tumble an inch or so above the net as they go across...thus they can sometimes be intercepted for a quick flick winner. And some shots end up not being close to the net as far as depth when they go cross court. They sometimes seem to come away from the net a good 6 plus inches.

This one seems to be pretty accurate all around, both in height and distance. Sometimes my net shots aren't that good, even when I get to the shuttle early and do a standard, regular, basic cross court.

Cory

redevolve

05-18-2005, 08:11 AM

Greetings.
I'm quite new here - a returning member.
I felt that I should at least contribute something here.
However, I don't have much to contribute. I recently found this video.
I feel that this is the best net return that I've ever seen!

Enjoy! Please provide some feedback after downloading. Thanks :)

Click here to download (http://anonym.to/?http://s4.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2VOKXH26PMBSG2CXK6ZE83CSPF)

DaN_fAn

05-18-2005, 08:41 AM

At first look my eyes did n't catch it,but in the replay i could make out the trick shot.yes,definitely one of the best returns i have seen.Good clip mate.:)

Pasch

05-18-2005, 08:59 AM

the download doesnt work!

redevolve

05-18-2005, 09:31 AM

At first look my eyes did n't catch it,but in the replay i could make out the trick shot.yes,definitely one of the best returns i have seen.Good clip mate.:)

LOL. What was your first reaction when you noticed that shot ?
As for me, I was quite astonished!

@Pasch, are you sure ? Can you please try again because Dan was able to download it.

*GaDe~CaMiLlA*

05-18-2005, 09:43 AM

i can't download too................. :confused: :confused:

kannan101

05-18-2005, 09:53 AM

Same here.....
At first I was wondering what was so special about the shot, little did i know about the flick (a cheeky one at that ;))

Anyway, here's a reseed http://s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3UL5T2WWDCU4D02MMA57ZGBOYQ

syed_bashiir

05-18-2005, 09:53 AM

donpedro

05-18-2005, 10:27 AM

http://geocities.com/tsmoviegallery/finte201.wmv

for all those that cannot download... i will upload the file to a better server soon. haa.. maybe the sudirman cup finall too.. see my mood first.. hee ^-^
I think I maybe found a source for that spesific file.
http://www.claes2.modulweb.dk/badminton/finter/finte201.wmv

pantherseu

05-18-2005, 10:40 AM

demolidor

05-18-2005, 03:34 PM

i can't download too................. :confused: :confused:

Don't worry you already have it ;) It's the peter gade trick shot video that's been around for ages. Whole story behind it is somewhere in this forum as well, just search for peter gade trick shot or something .. :rolleyes:
Well whadayouknow here (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8636&highlight=peter+gade+trick) it is ?!

redevolve

05-18-2005, 07:56 PM

Thanks for all the reseeds.
Nope, I don't have the full match.
Hope to be able to find it.
I'll share once I found it.

jcl49

05-18-2005, 08:15 PM

If you looks closely at Gade's grip when he's netting (esp backhand), he only holds the handle by his fingers (not the palm). Would this be the key in his versatility and array of deceptive shots? Do all top players hold the raquet that loosely when netting?

Brave_Turtle

05-18-2005, 09:36 PM

ViningWolff

05-18-2005, 11:29 PM

if you watch the second side of the Revolution cup Marleve Mainaky does similar shot to Gade's, though I found marleve's to be a faster shot as he takes it earlier.

There is the reason they call him the Asaian ankle breaker....

LeoTheBearMan

05-18-2005, 11:51 PM

i did the gade shot about 1 month ago in my game against alameda high (i play for the Hercules High Team). my opponent had nothing to do other than look down and say nice. i did it on his serve. simply amazing. :D :rolleyes: :p

Arief

05-20-2005, 09:32 PM

hm... astonishing... when did it happen?

vras100

05-26-2005, 06:14 AM