Hi all, first post at this great site! Anyway, right to the point:

I have a fairly old Yonex Aerotus-77 SP badminton racket, and according to the bottom of the handle, it was made in Japan. However, I have concerns that it might possibly be a fake racket. It doesn't have the new Yonex logo, but rather has the double Ys with a line going through the top of each Y.

Also, I've never seen an Aerotus-77 with the SP notation after it, so that leads me to further speculate this might not be a genuine Yonex racket. There is no serial number, but there's a holographic Genuine Yonex sticker at the top of the handle (the "cone" part) and a 5 to the left of that.

Can anyone help me out a bit here? Thanks for all responses!

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PBSI logo here, even though it appears VERY VERY blurry...it's very crisp and detailed on the racket

Uhhh, I couldn't get a pic of the "Genuine Yonex" sticker clearly, because it refracts light, but here it is. There's a "5" printed to the left of the sticker.

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I don't think it is fake. I ran a search throughout the forums and it seems to be a discontinued product from Yonex that was manufactured before Yonex started the serial numbers so I doubt it is fake.

http://badmintonforum.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3987&highlight=aerotus+77

It is a genuine model. The Aerotus-77 comes in two versions; the original and a SPecial version.

The logo is the old Yonex logo with two triangles and circles.

I think it is a real one.

The serial number is just behind the sticker. I have sold many YY rackets in this arrangement long time ago in my summer job.

Is the racket bought in HK??

Thanks for all the quick responses everyone! This was an urgent matter to settle, because I'm in the middle of trying out for my high school's badminton team and when a few friends of mine noted the fact that they've never seen the Yonex logo before, there was speculation that it could very well be a fake racket.

Is there any significance between a regular model and a special (SP) model of the same racket? Um, I actually bought the racket in Beijing, China about 2 or 3 summers ago.

do you like playing with the racquet? If it plays well, and you enjoy using it, does it really matter if it's a fake or genuine. For instance, prior to your friends questioning it's authenticity, did you smash hard and play well with it? After your friends asked, did the racquet suddenly fail to perform as well as before?

Originally posted by badrad
do you like playing with the racquet? If it plays well, and you enjoy using it, does it really matter if it's a fake or genuine. For instance, prior to your friends questioning it's authenticity, did you smash hard and play well with it? After your friends asked, did the racquet suddenly fail to perform as well as before?
If it did, then iz jus phychological effects man! dont let it get to ya! :)

tell your friends they're newbies, and that they can shove their new yonex's up their racquet bags. :p

Tell your friends that they were babies when this racket was made. It is probably about 10 years (or more) old.

Ron

Originally posted by palydu
Thanks for all the quick responses everyone! This was an urgent matter to settle, because I'm in the middle of trying out for my high school's badminton team and when a few friends of mine noted the fact that they've never seen the Yonex logo before, there was speculation that it could very well be a fake racket.

Is there any significance between a regular model and a special (SP) model of the same racket? Um, I actually bought the racket in Beijing, China about 2 or 3 summers ago.

i don't get it. so your team won't allow you to join if you are using a fake?

the racket is genuine. the logo is the old Yonex logo.

as for the SP, it doens't stand for special, but instead singapore, which is the distribution designation for countries in the SE Asia region.

Originally posted by palydu

Um, I actually bought the racket in Beijing, China about 2 or 3 summers ago.


Which store u bought this one? Is that www.bbesports.com (xin lan tian)? If yes, I guess u don't have to worry. They are a reputable store, and should not sale the fake stuff, even though I don't think they are an authorized dealer, that's why the price is kinda high.

Originally posted by LazyBuddy
Which store u bought this one? Is that www.bbesports.com (xin lan tian)? If yes, I guess u don't have to worry. They are a reputable store, and should not sale the fake stuff, even though I don't think they are an authorized dealer, that's why the price is kinda high.

Yeh, once I saw it on that site, I remember that I've been linked to this site several times and figured it was definitely not a fake.

Originally posted by Winex West Can
It is a genuine model. The Aerotus-77 comes in two versions; the original and a SPecial version.

The logo is the old Yonex logo with two triangles and circles.

I can't believe people still continue to think that SP stands for Special!! It's not!
As kwun mentioned, it stands for the designated countries (region) in which the racket is suppose to be sold in.

I suppose this Aerotus 77 comes in many models?? Eg. JP, SP, US, etc.

Confused?? Look in this thread (http://www.badmintonforum.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7724) for more details.

Originally posted by modious
I can't believe people still continue to think that SP stands for Special!! It's not!
As kwun mentioned, it stands for the designated countries (region) in which the racket is suppose to be sold in.

I suppose this Aerotus 77 comes in many models?? Eg. JP, SP, US, etc.

Confused?? Look in this thread (http://www.badmintonforum.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7724) for more details.

It is not the SP designation after the serial number but rather SP after the model number on the shaft.

I don't see Aerotus-77 CD painted on the shaft for Aerotus-77 but have seen Aerotus-77 SP with serial number and a different designation code.

BTW, the FAQ stated that the SP should be engraved on the cone NOT painted on the shaft!

Originally posted by kwun
i don't get it. so your team won't allow you to join if you are using a fake?

the racket is genuine. the logo is the old Yonex logo.

as for the SP, it doens't stand for special, but instead singapore, which is the distribution designation for countries in the SE Asia region.

BTW, why would a store in China sell SP-designated racquet? Besides the racquet shown do not have SP engraved on the cone although I am sure there is a code underneath the hologram sticker.

The SP is painted on the shaft right after the model name and I don't think that is the destination code.

Originally posted by Winex West Can
BTW, why would a store in China sell SP-designated racquet?


Personally, I have no idea what that "SP" stands for.

However, I was told that (at least 2,3 months ago), by then, China has NO Yonex authorized dealer. Therefore, the reputable stores got their imports from other places, such as JP, HK, TW, etc. Therefore, if "SP" really stands for singapore, I won't be very surprised at all.

Also, even they don't have Yonex authorized dealer, the reputable stores do carry the real rackets, not fake. However, if u find an super amazing deal in a very small unknown local store, be actual careful.

Originally posted by LazyBuddy
Personally, I have no idea what that "SP" stands for.

However, I was told that (at least 2,3 months ago), by then, China has NO Yonex authorized dealer. Therefore, the reputable stores got their imports from other places, such as JP, HK, TW, etc. Therefore, if "SP" really stands for singapore, I won't be very surprised at all.


If China has no authorized Yonex dealer, then why bother with production runs of CH racquets???

Originally posted by Winex West Can
If China has no authorized Yonex dealer, then why bother with production runs of CH racquets???


That was exactly my question, when I was reading posts from some chinese forums.

However, several posts were posted by the experts (the ones who run those so call "ask the expert" sections), so, I was assume that should be relatively accurate statement. Or, what they referred was every other designated code beside CH/CN???

Originally posted by Winex West Can

The SP is painted on the shaft right after the model name and I don't think that is the destination code.

It is the destination code. For SP rackets, the code is printed both on the shaft and the cone. For others like JP, US, etc.... the code is only printed on the cone!

For example: Carbonex 20 Special SP or Carbonex 20 Tour Special SP ----> This is what is written on the shaft of the racket.

It's definately not Cab 20 special special!!

Originally posted by modious

For example: Carbonex 20 Special SP or Carbonex 20 Tour Special SP ----> This is what is written on the shaft of the racket.

It's definately not Cab 20 special special!!

Hi Modious, I think you may have make an error, it should be:

'Carbonex 20 Special ' on the shaft with 'SP' engraved on the cone, or
'Carbonex 20 SP' on the shaft with 'SP' engraved on the cone.

likewise,

'Carbonex 20 Tour Special' on the shaft with 'SP' engraved on the cone, or
'Carbonex 20 Tour SP' on the shaft with 'SP' engraved on the cone.

You guys just lost me... LOL

Originally posted by LazyBuddy
That was exactly my question, when I was reading posts from some chinese forums.

However, several posts were posted by the experts (the ones who run those so call "ask the expert" sections), so, I was assume that should be relatively accurate statement. Or, what they referred was every other designated code beside CH/CN???

LB, your info was correct but out of date. i think up to a year or so ago, there are no official distribution of Yonex rackets to China (except to the national team, but that's special case). as a result, what you said was correct, people import rackets from other places.

however, Yonex started distributing rackets there recently, and thus the new "CH" distribution code for the Chinese mass market.

Wow, thanks to everyone for the extremely helpful responses!!

Originally posted by kwun
i don't get it. so your team won't allow you to join if you are using a fake?


I was wondering about that as well.

What does the origin of the racquet have to do with the badminton selection process?

Originally posted by kwun
LB, your info was correct but out of date. i think up to a year or so ago, there are no official distribution of Yonex rackets to China (except to the national team, but that's special case). as a result, what you said was correct, people import rackets from other places.

however, Yonex started distributing rackets there recently, and thus the new "CH" distribution code for the Chinese mass market.


I see...

Maybe this because even though I visited those forums recently (2-3 months ago), but it happened to be I was reading some old posts... Very possible...

hehehhehehhe... stupid me... If I ever created any confusion and let anyone here a little bit more "worried", sorry lah... :D

i bought armortec 300 at tobys wayback 2004.even though its priceyhttp://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums//images/smilies/crying.gif .. and i bought an CLass A. imitation(d seller said) and Overrun Racket at the end of the year, for me to know wats theyre differences becoz imitation and the overrun are very much cheaper... it seems dat imitation rackets r heavier, 1 thing ive noticed the said overrun which i bought cheaper at makati was almost the same weight as the original i bought.. the only thing is it doesnt have serials... and i regret to buy at d store.. i wish i have saved more 4 extra buck for Aeroplane shutcocks.!!.http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums//images/smilies/biggrin.gif

i recall one time when my aunt&cousin borrowed my overrun A-300 for a playing spree at marikina.. accidentally collide with her doubles playmate.. weve noticed that its not merely hollow but there are some thread or i think vibration-proof material inside the racket.. same as my neighbors originalMP99 was broken this april., in my own opinion as my experience says Original and Overrun have same flexibility..same materials although it dey differ in paint finish just like buying smuggled Guess jeans and Girbaud same material but packaging is different. and overun can hold up @ tension 28 w/ my titanium strings, same on my original A-300,, dats y i badly need a Armortec300 overrun for my practice games.and doubles game.,, i use my orig only on tournaments, i dont want it to be broken by my doubles-partner just like that.http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums//images/smilies/rolleyes.gif ..

i bought my racket to our PRO trainor bfore wen i was playing at makati..but i cant contact him any more and havnt seen her for some time.. http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums//images/smilies/cool.gif
can i have opinions frm u guys??

can i have opinions frm u guys??:confused:

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can i have opinions frm u guys??

hi guys,
im just curious about the difference between fake and non fake yonex NS 9000 S. so, recently ive just figured out that (in my opinion) fake yonex NS9000 has 'nano technology' written on the bag instead 'nano science' which is the real yonex should have.
BTW, real yonex NS9000 has nanoscience ELASTIC Ti written on the frame and nanoscience written on the shaft.
while, fake yonex NS 9000 has nanoscale ELASTIC Ti written on the frame and nanotechnology written on the shaft.
what do you guys say?
i got some pics for the proofs wit me, but i donno how to load it on this page..haha

http://www.friendster.com/photos/36457898/0/612710800

hi guys,
im just curious about the difference between fake and non fake yonex NS 9000 S. so, recently ive just figured out that (in my opinion) fake yonex NS9000 has 'nano technology' written on the bag instead 'nano science' which is the real yonex should have.
BTW, real yonex NS9000 has nanoscience ELASTIC Ti written on the frame and nanoscience written on the shaft.
while, fake yonex NS 9000 has nanoscale ELASTIC Ti written on the frame and nanotechnology written on the shaft.
what do you guys say?
i got some pics for the proofs wit me, but i donno how to load it on this page..haha

This is all incorrect.
Both "Nanoscale Technology" and "Nanoscience" are used on the shaft and bag. It just depends on which racket code you are referring to which it applies. Also on the sides of the head there is an extra word on the sides of the hard which only one distribution code actually has which distinguishes it from the others. Commonly, the fake ones with this code is missing this.

If the symbol for yonex has the striped y's then it's the older symbol for yonex---those sp.us.cd etc. are codes for ex. sp=singapore,us=usa etc.