Scott Kam
02-18-2003, 01:18 AM
Fischer is a tennis racket manufacturer but miraculously I've found a badminton racket. Any idea?
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View Full Version : Fischer Air Carbon Scott Kam 02-18-2003, 01:18 AM Fischer is a tennis racket manufacturer but miraculously I've found a badminton racket. Any idea? badrad 02-18-2003, 02:54 AM fischer has an on again off again affair with badminton. years ago they brought out a couple of one piece racquets called the Defender and Winner. Their claim was an extremely stiff racquet. I was one of those poor sods that bought a several of them. On close inspection of three that I bought from the same store, all three had slight differences. One had slightly thicker shaft than the other two. another had a rounder less pronounced 'wide body head'. I was lucky to find a 'sucke - oops - buyer for them afterwards. Scott Kam 02-18-2003, 03:34 AM Can't imagine that they did such a bad job in QC:eek: badrad 02-18-2003, 10:15 AM Originally posted by Scott Kam Can't imagine that they did such a bad job in QC:eek: Oh I didn't mean to say that the racquets were particularly bad. If I only bought 1, I would not even know the diff, the quality and paint job were very good. But having three at the same time, it was bugging me that all three were slightly different from each other, considering they were the same model. Winex West Can 02-18-2003, 10:17 AM Oh I didn't mean to say that the racquets were particularly bad. If I only bought 1, I would not even know the diff, the quality and paint job were very good. But having three at the same time, it was bugging me that all three were slightly different from each other, considering they were the same model. Maybe they were trying to follow Yonex's CN/CP vs. SP racquets :D :D :D forrestyung 02-18-2003, 10:19 AM Hi Scott, you also aware other brands' racket!!:) I have bought the 1st generation of fischer badminton racket 10 years before. One called Winner for defensive playing and another one called Offensive. Offensive (regular shape) is a great racket in performance but poor durability. I loved it very much and won many matches during the short time I using it - less than two months. The racket broke at the point between the handle and shaft. Winner has diamond shape shaft, extremely stiff, hardly to adapt for me. It finally broke at the same location. I have bought a pro number 1 half year before from Dragon. Great racket in control and power, but the vibration is too great and I do not like it. I have borrowed this racket to one of my friends who loves the vibration very much. Paint job is very smart!!! I only can say it is not suite me. May be the tennis technologies not suitable for badminton. I also see the rossignol, donnay and dunlop badminton rackets before. Is there any guy has tried them?? ronk 02-18-2003, 05:31 PM Dunlop was the premier racket manufacturer (along with Grey) in the age of the dinosaurs when all wood rackets or wood rackets with steel shafts were kings. Anyone remembers Dunlop Maxply under 5, where under 5 ounces (under 140gms) was considered light, and 120gms was untra light. I believe that Dunlop bought over Carlton and they no longer make rackets with the Dunlop brand much but sell most of their rackets under the Carlton brand (I may be wrong here). Ron forrestyung 02-19-2003, 12:16 AM Hi Ron, I think Carlton, Slazenger and Dunlop are same business group. In a few years before, I find the three brands using same web page. The only Dunlop Carbon rackets that I have seem is 1987, then no more Dunlop Carbon rackets appear. I agreed with Ron that Dunlop has purshased Carlton and Dunlop is no needs to develop any badminton rackets. Scott Kam 02-19-2003, 02:30 AM Hi Forrest, Can't imagine someone loves vibration (I mean for rackets!!). BTW, I think it is the amateur's privilege to have the freedom of choice in rackets. I love market economy!! forrestyung 02-19-2003, 05:55 AM The person loves vibration is my badminton stuff supplier.:D Because of interest, he resigned his job and buy this shop.:D One of question to all. Yamaha also has a lot of racket in 1980's and some in nowadays. Anyone tried them?? The old YB-70 is a good stuff. Scott Kam 02-19-2003, 08:05 PM Originally posted by forrestyung The person loves vibration is my badminton stuff supplier.:D Because of interest, he resigned his job and buy this shop.:D One of question to all. Yamaha also has a lot of racket in 1980's and some in nowadays. Anyone tried them?? The old YB-70 is a good stuff. Yes! Yes! I had a piece of Yamaha when I was studying "A" level in '86. I broke it when I was playing at a local match (too small to be remember its name). I can't recall the model but it was quite advance at that time since it had a built-in T-joint. I like it most because of the balance, softness, speed and control (and maybe because I broke it). I haven't found the similar touch until I got a Wilson Hyper Carbon 1.0 recently. The Yamaha I got is purple-blue in colour. Can you help me to identify the model, Forrest?;) forrestyung 02-20-2003, 10:00 AM Hey, I really find a funny guy like me..:D I cannot remember other Yamaha rackets other than those I have used before. Hey Scott, I have also bought a hyper carbon 4 because of it's outlook and the signature. The racket is too light for me, I think I get used to 2U models. How do you think about your hyper carbon 1?? I like to try some famous brand but not expensive rackets.:D Scott Kam 02-20-2003, 08:31 PM It's a real pleasure talking to you on this racket-collecting hobby:D For the Wilson Hyper Carbon series, I bought 5.0 first, then 4.0, and finally 1.0. My preference is: 1.0 >> 5.0 >> 4.0 I totally agree with your comments on 4.0. And I also bought it for the signature:D 1.0 is the best for me cos of it's speed, lightness and power (the balance point is a bit towards the head but this doesn't make me feel too heavy, stiffness just make!!) 5.0 is a well balance one but not speedy as 1.0. Maybe because of the P.W.S. structure at the frame that drags the speed down. I'll buy another piece of 1.0 for standby purpose. 1.0 will definitely be with me in the court for a while. Any new target, Forrest? forrestyung 02-22-2003, 10:56 AM Dear Scott, There are my three new targets: Yonex 906DX Bridgestone Iso 800 CN in old logo I hope I can get all of them. Regards, Forrest Scott Kam 02-24-2003, 01:39 AM Hi Forrest! Bridgestone used to make tyres. You're so adventurous:eek: Any background info about this comapny? I found a website displaying the models. All are pre-strung and the top-of-the-line one costs 17,000 Yen. It doesn't seem to be promising. Look forward to receiving your reports;) forrestyung 02-27-2003, 06:32 AM Dear Scott, I have seem the Bridgestone racket from my supplier a year before. It has two more set main strings holes. One pack of string is not long enough, must use two packs of string to string a racket. The racket surface is also a little bit larger than other oval head rackets. It should be non-strung in Japan. I never tried it and my supplier promised me to find a new one to me. I am still waiting........................................... ..... The owner said it is a good racket, but no boady can prove...... I will call you after I got it. What is your next target?? Scott Kam 03-03-2003, 02:45 AM Dear Forrest, I've just bought another piece of Wilson Hyper Carbon 1.0. Perhaps Babolat is my next target. forrestyung 03-03-2003, 09:19 AM I also want to buy the Babolat Satelite Solar, but High Performance would not import the High End racket until summer holiday. Sole Agent would make decision in the coming Summer......... Too Bad!!:mad: Scott Kam 03-03-2003, 10:12 PM Hi Forrest! Some time ago (before I joined this forum), I found the official importer in Hong Kong from the Babolat website. On the phone, the staff didn't mentioned that if they brought in with any badminton racket and just told men to visit Wah Sang in Causeway Bay. At that time, the store sold only Babolat tennis rackets. The storekeeper was cocky (unfortunatley this is the only place where I could find Wilson Hyper Carbon1.0) and challenged me if Babolat really makes baminton rackets!! Recently the store displays some low-end Babolat badminton models. (The keeper is still cocky.) BTW, did Rossignol make badminton rackets in the past? Any photos?? And what is High Performance?? forrestyung 03-04-2003, 10:07 AM Sure. Rossignol has the Trianglur section and FT series in Tennis. (I have both tennis rackets) At the same moment, I found one badminton racket in City One Plaza, Shatin and one in Rose, Mong Kok. But now, all are disappeared. If any body have it, I would ask him to sell it. In fact that Donnay also has badminton racket 15 years before. Scott Kam 03-10-2003, 08:29 AM I also got a Rossignol tennis racket until it was borrowed and never returned!!! Have you heard of a new brand called Oliver. It's a German brand (of course it's made in China as I was told by EMMY). I learnt from its website its exclusive material called meta-carbon (the site is in German). What drew my attention is its top-of-line shoes. I could only have a look of a racket model in EMMY a few moths ago. I wich I could try its shoes in the future. double 03-19-2003, 04:53 PM Hi , you saw Oliver badminton racket on Emmy? What 's the model? and price? Thank you! Scott Kam 03-19-2003, 07:17 PM Can't remember exactly if it's P10 or P12. A red one. HK$300+ carimari 01-15-2006, 07:10 AM i saw a number of these in my country.. anybody care to give a short review.? what're they most comparable to. (in terms of yonex spec). their website doesnt list bandminton rackets as one of their products.. could they be fakes?:eek: btw. what is 'air carbon'? is it similar to buckyballs/carbon60 used in some of yonex shafts? fast3r 01-15-2006, 07:51 AM i saw a number of these in my country.. anybody care to give a short review.? what're they most comparable to. (in terms of yonex spec). their website doesnt list bandminton rackets as one of their products.. could they be ?:eek: btw. what is 'air carbon'? is it similar to buckyballs/carbon60 used in some of yonex shafts? I have a Fischer Air Carbon. I think that 'Air Carbon' is just a posh name for normal carbon, the racket is not great. forrestyung 01-15-2006, 10:55 AM As per Fischer's information, Air Carbon is a light weight and durable carbon. I cannot judge it is really work or not, since the performance of a racket is not only depend on material only. I have a Pro Number 1, it is power is as per Ti 7 with great control. But I dislike it's vibration and it makes me very uncomfortable after hit. On the contrary, 2 of my friends like it's vibration and they feel very good. :p My Pro Number 1 is in Black and Red and some teamates comment this colour scheme is quite cool. Fischer's badminton is made in China and should be the same factory with Dunlop and Carlton. Since Fischer is not popular in badminton industry, so if I were the fake manufacturers, I will produce Yonex to enjoy the better market share and margin. :D Fischer should not have fake badminton rackets at this moment. carimari 01-21-2006, 09:01 PM i tried a friend's fischer air carbon no.1 FT last week. its a 4UG5, med flex, balanced (or slightly head light due to the grip) racket with rsl string strung at 28/30:eek: lbs. the play was clumsy at first due to adjustment from my prev use of MP rackets, however the latter games turn out to be much fun with lots of smashes and nice clears.:D personally i dont think its a great racket, but i kinda like moving from 2U->4U range.. and the additional tension on the string helps alot. (only the shaft being the flex component in the smash. not the string). my only gripe is this racket gives an annoying 'ting' :confused:sound whenever it hits hard on the bird. my guess is the shaft core is hollow or the composite material used in the build-up is very thin. tsungkm 03-06-2006, 02:43 AM Actually they do manufacture badminton racquets. In fact i have the latest catalogue. Slater 03-06-2006, 03:24 AM Actually they do manufacture badminton racquets. In fact i have the latest catalogue. Are these the new rackets ? i thought the latest fischer rackets come with different colours at the top part of the Frame and the body is black. schuweiz 03-26-2006, 04:49 AM Just for scme comments about this Fishcer racquet that I've bouight a few weeks ago in Complex Pertama. It's a Pro Number 1 in green colour scheme which looks abit weird as it is green but i pick it because of its frame that is almost like MP-99 which is a tiny bit wider than the normal MP-88 like Isometric. TO my surprise, this racquet feels very good in my initial test with it strung on BG-66 at 26lbs. Very easy to control and I do not think that it lacks power or control in whatever manner. For some reason, i like its slight vibration when i hit it hard, am i weird ??...lol.... I feel that it worth every single cent that i have paid for this racquet as it outperforms my expectations..... lol..... keep me posted if u have any questions about this special racquet, believe me it's a very wise investment. Give it a try. Slater 04-03-2006, 01:48 AM Just for scme comments about this Fishcer racquet that I've bouight a few weeks ago in Complex Pertama. It's a Pro Number 1 in green colour scheme which looks abit weird as it is green but i pick it because of its frame that is almost like MP-99 which is a tiny bit wider than the normal MP-88 like Isometric. TO my surprise, this racquet feels very good in my initial test with it strung on BG-66 at 26lbs. Very easy to control and I do not think that it lacks power or control in whatever manner. For some reason, i like its slight vibration when i hit it hard, am i weird ??...lol.... I feel that it worth every single cent that i have paid for this racquet as it outperforms my expectations..... lol..... keep me posted if u have any questions about this special racquet, believe me it's a very wise investment. Give it a try. you've got the green one ? that must be the one which is a little head heavy. i was told the new range of fischer rackets with some magnetic technology which they use for tennis rackets are coming out this month. forrestyung 04-03-2006, 04:08 AM you've got the green one ? that must be the one which is a little head heavy. i was told the new range of fischer rackets with some magnetic technology which they use for tennis rackets are coming out this month. I studied the magnetic technology in Fischer Tennis, I just think this is a gimmick.:D forrestyung 04-03-2006, 04:11 AM Just for scme comments about this Fishcer racquet that I've bouight a few weeks ago in Complex Pertama. It's a Pro Number 1 in green colour scheme which looks abit weird as it is green but i pick it because of its frame that is almost like MP-99 which is a tiny bit wider than the normal MP-88 like Isometric. TO my surprise, this racquet feels very good in my initial test with it strung on BG-66 at 26lbs. Very easy to control and I do not think that it lacks power or control in whatever manner. For some reason, i like its slight vibration when i hit it hard, am i weird ??...lol.... I feel that it worth every single cent that i have paid for this racquet as it outperforms my expectations..... lol..... keep me posted if u have any questions about this special racquet, believe me it's a very wise investment. Give it a try. You are OK!!:D As per my review in Red and Black Version of Pro number 1, I also had similar comments. Slater 04-04-2006, 02:27 AM You are OK!!:D As per my review in Red and Black Version of Pro number 1, I also had similar comments. Hi Forrestyung. I think most of the so called technology used in badminton rackets are gimmick although there might be some truth in it. But for the price you're paying compared to yonex rackets...I've no complains forrestyung 04-04-2006, 05:13 AM Hi Forrestyung. I think most of the so called technology used in badminton rackets are gimmick although there might be some truth in it. But for the price you're paying compared to yonex rackets...I've no complains :D When concerning with price level, yes you are right!!:D forrestyung 04-04-2006, 05:25 AM Hi Forrestyung. I think most of the so called technology used in badminton rackets are gimmick although there might be some truth in it. But for the price you're paying compared to yonex rackets...I've no complains :D When concerning with price level, totally agree with you!! Yonex is the best .............. profit makers:D carimari 04-10-2006, 08:31 PM Actually they do manufacture badminton racquets. In fact i have the latest catalogue. just out of curiousity.. where did you get that catalogue from?:cool: you're not working for them are you? :D if you are.. tell them to quickly update their website.. they're obviously not attracting a lot of sales as they're fairly unknown. Scott Kam 04-10-2006, 10:48 PM just out of curiousity.. where did you get that catalogue from?:cool: you're not working for them are you? :D if you are.. tell them to quickly update their website.. they're obviously not attracting a lot of sales as they're fairly unknown. Fisher's website doesn't even mention they produce badmitnon rackets. Did they just cut the production? tsungkm 04-11-2006, 03:32 AM I don't work for them. Same like you, i went to their website and i email them saying that their website has nothing about badminton racquets. They send me a catalogue and say that they have not updated the website. I think badminton racquets are not their main selling point. |