Looking for a coach in BC for around $15-45$/h

[wonger47]

Looking for a coach, for private lessons in BC area willing to pay $15-45$/hour depending on level ......

[Nanashi]

that's quite the price range... you could get quite a variety of coaches for that price... maybe you should be a little more specific....

[wonger47]

I want a coach that has being playing for at least 7years or has level 3

[viver]

Originally posted by wonger47
I want a coach that has being playing for at least 7years or has level 3

You can try contact Yao Ximing at Vancouver Racquets club. He was former China national team member and world doubles champion.

Good luck.

[SChan]

or Calvin Holoboff from VRC.

Canadian Masters a few years ago

[SChan]

Here's an exert from the VRC website (http://www.vrc.bc.ca/badminton.html)


Calvin Holoboff (604-872-0208)
The Vancouver Racquets Club is fortunate to have top level Badminton Coach Calvin Holoboff. Calvin is a Level 3 NCCP Coach and has been coaching and training players at VRC for the past 20 years. He has had great success improving the skills of both beginners and advanced players and has also coached internationally for Canada. In 1997 Calvin was awarded the high honour of "Badminton Coach of the Year."

2001 Canadian Masters Mixed 40+ Champion
2000 Canadian Masters Mixed 40+ Champion
1999 Canadian Masters Mixed 40+ Champion
1998 Canadian Masters Mixed 35+ & 40+ Champion
1998 Canadian Masters Doubles 40+ Champion
1997 Canadian Badminton Coach of the Year
Nine time finalist at BC Open
Produced 55 Canadian Junior Titles
Coached at World Championships in Copenhagen 99, Welsch Open 99, Scotland Open 99, Spanish Open 98 & 99, Canada Winter Games.
Personal coach of Darryl Yung for the Atlanta Olympics

Ximing Yao (604-632-8869)

2000 Canadian Master Doubles 40+ Champion
1999 Canadian Master Doubles 35+ & 40+Champion
1998 Portland Nike World Master Doubles 35+ & 40+ Champion
1996 Canadian Master Doubles 35+ & 40+ Champion
1995 Canadian Master Singles 35+ Champion
1986 US Open Doubles Champion
1980/83 Chinese National Doubles Champion
1982 Asia Games Champion
1982 Thomas Cup Champion
1981 World Games Doubles Champion

Sian Deng (604-764-0328)

1996 Member of Olympic Team
1995 Pan American Games Singles - Silver medal, Doubles- Gold medal, Mixed - Silver medal
1994 Commonwealth Games Singles - Silver medal, Doubles- Bronze medal
1990/95 Canadian Senior Ladies Singles
1990/91/93/95 Canadian Senior Ladies Doubles
1991/92 Canadian Senior Mixed Doubles

[Winex West Can]

Originally posted by SChan
or Calvin Holoboff from VRC.

Canadian Masters a few years ago

Given a choice between Calvin, Xiao Ming and Sian, I would pick either Xiao Ming and Sian over Calvin. No offense, Calvin :D :D

Why don't you try Darryl Yung?

[wonger47]

There is a waiting list to get it to the VRC,so.....unless they train people out side of the VRC (private lessons) then i don't think they'd train me

[SChan]

how old are you? there is only waiting list for juniors. however you could still take private lessons at vrc, or if you are a junior you could also take junior group lessons. you don't need membership for these.

group lessons link: http://www.vrc.bc.ca/badmintonjrtraining.html
private lessons: look above (my post with all the details) for phone #'s and phone them.

[wonger47]

i am 15

[SChan]

Originally posted by wonger47
i don't think they'd train me

why wouldn't they train you? as long as you are willing to pay :D, they'll train you!!!

[wonger47]

lol true i guess....but it thought i had to have a membership:confused:

[wonger47]

are you a member of the VRC??

[SChan]

well you don't have to have membership... for junior group trainings it's cheaper though if you have membership. otherwise private lessons are the same price i think, not sure :p

[viver]

Originally posted by SChan
or Calvin Holoboff from VRC.

Canadian Masters a few years ago

When I started to play badminton I learned my first steps with 2 gentlemen. They taught me a few things like strokes, footwork, tactics, etc. These 2 gentlemen even won a tournament held in China back in the 80's and held the title of world champions in their category - over 70 years old??. I really thank them for their effort in teaching me and it was also because of them that I started to love badminton.

But it can't be compared with what I've later learn from a top professional coach from China. I had to discard what I've learnt before so I could progress. My strokes, footwork, tactical thinking, everything had to change.

One have to be aware the big difference between an amateur player and a top professional player. You can't possibly compare the level of badminton in Canada with that of China. Yao Ximing was a top badminton player. He represented his country China and won top level honors at international competitions. This kind of experience is not easily obtainable. Especially that 'little' knowledge to guide one to reach the top in badminton.

If I were serious about badminton and looking for a badminton coach for improving my skills I would go to Yao Ximing. Julia Chen or Deng Xian would be good alternatives - according to my knowledge.

[SChan]

Originally posted by wonger47
are you a member of the VRC??

yeah... a member a new member i might add...

[SChan]

Originally posted by viver
When I started to play badminton I learned my first steps with 2 gentlemen. They taught me a few things like strokes, footwork, tactics, etc. These 2 gentlemen even won a tournament held in China back in the 80's and held the title of world champions in their category - over 70 years old??. I really thank them for their effort in teaching me and it was also because of them that I started to love badminton.

But it can't be compared with what I've later learn from a top professional coach from China. I had to discard what I've learnt before so I could progress. My strokes, footwork, tactical thinking, everything had to change.

One have to be aware the big difference between an amateur player and a top professional player. You can't possibly compare the level of badminton in Canada with that of China. Yao Ximing was a top badminton player. He represented his country China and won top level honors at international competitions. This kind of experience is not easily obtainable. Especially that 'little' knowledge to guide one to reach the top in badminton.

If I were serious about badminton and looking for a badminton coach for improving my skills I would go to Yao Ximing. Julia Chen or Deng Xian would be good alternatives - according to my knowledge.

you've got a point lol :D

[wonger47]

I want to get in but the junior membership has a waiting list and it also cost $50 to get on to the waiting list

[SChan]

yah lol i've been through that :D too many people sign up not enough spots :P

[wonger47]

How long were you on the waiting list for?? cuz.....i called and they said theres a 2 year waiting list >_<;

[SChan]

2 yr waiting list!!!!!! what???? i don't think so.... all i had to wait for 6 months. maybe you got the wrong information. i'm pretty sure the waiting list isn't longer than 1 yr.

[wonger47]

oh really?? cool!! by the way where did you play previously?? Brit. community center??

[wonger47]

do you have a double's partner??

[SChan]

plus if it was over a yr. they refund your waiting list deposit. at least that is what it says in the handbook... :D

i just played at recs before i joined....

[wonger47]

what about that guy "Badrad" is he a good coach??

[kwun]

Originally posted by wonger47
what about that guy "Badrad" is he a good coach??

do you like pushups?

[wonger47]

they don't bother me....why??

[wonger47]

what level is badrad??

[Winex West Can]

Originally posted by wonger47
what level is badrad??

Errr...I think he is at level 10 of 12.

Not only that, he has three stripes on his sleeves (nee Sargent)

[SmashingBird]

Originally posted by Winex West Can
Errr...I think he is at level 10 of 12.

Not only that, he has three stripes on his sleeves (nee Sargent)

hey wut level is frank chen?

[badrad]

I have my level 2, but personally all this certification is garbage. I know a number of badminton coaches that have their level 2 and play worse than beginners (IMHO).

For you my recommendation is go to Frank Chen. He is a good player - singles oriented. I am a doubles player. He charges for training and has a regular gym he has full access to. He also has greater patience than I do.

I am only volunteering at the Guildford rec center, and at little badrad's high school
I coach large groups, and also personally I only have 5 students that I have chosen to take completley under my wing. They are dedicated and come out when I run a practice no questions asked. They compete regularly at various tournaments and nationals.

I'm not looking for high maintenance students...

[TTT]

I had a couple of lessons with Frank before I ran out of money to continue

yes, I think Frank Chen is good and you should definitely give it a try.


Hm...badrad, do u happen to teach Chris Lee then? if you do, then congratulations on the coaching job because he was amazing at the Nationals last week

[badrad]

No, my friend coaches Chris and my daughter (little badrad). Like myself, he doesn't charge for his services, and he only will train those he want to. As far as I know he is only working on 4 students as well.

[Winex West Can]

Originally posted by SmashingBird
hey wut level is frank chen?

Jeez, I hoped that you guys realized that I was kidding about the level 10 of 12, eh?

There is only four levels in the coaching (in Canada). As for what level Frank Chen is at, I don't know and I don't think it matters as Badrad has previously posted. It's the person ability to coach and impart the necessary knowledge to the student.

The first time that I played singles with Frank, I only managed to get a point off him and he wasn't even trying :D :D

Only thing is Frank coaches in Richmond so you will have to factor in the transportation (i.e. can you get down to the church gym easily). I will see him tonight and if he is amiable, I will pass on his contact info.

BTW, SmashingBird took lessons from Frank so can give you a better assessment of how well he coaches.

[SmashingBird]

Originally posted by Winex West Can
Jeez, I hoped that you guys realized that I was kidding about the level 10 of 12, eh?

There is only four levels in the coaching (in Canada). As for what level Frank Chen is at, I don't know and I don't think it matters as Badrad has previously posted. It's the person ability to coach and impart the necessary knowledge to the student.

The first time that I played singles with Frank, I only managed to get a point off him and he wasn't even trying :D :D

Only thing is Frank coaches in Richmond so you will have to factor in the transportation (i.e. can you get down to the church gym easily). I will see him tonight and if he is amiable, I will pass on his contact info.

BTW, SmashingBird took lessons from Frank so can give you a better assessment of how well he coaches.

man..i thought that was for real man..coz i remember frank said he was level 2 or 3 or sumting like that..but when i heard u say out of 12.... i was like.... then there must be coaches that r like 3 or 4 times better than frank?!?.... haha....
newayz..i fink frank is a very patience coach, no pressure , not strict, but u will slowly see improvement in your game after a while, juss even by watching him play or how he plays, u will be able to improve.newayz... if u want more info contact me via icq 47806167 or email msn or wutever..supersayiamekpiccogetalo@hotmail.com

[wonger47]

i would really like Frank Chen's contact info ........Thanx

[wonger47]

Do you think it would be wise if i had 2 coaches like Ximing yao and frank Chen......or would they teach 2 differnt styles ??? and it would be just a wait of money.....

[SmashingBird]

Originally posted by wonger47
Do you think it would be wise if i had 2 coaches like Ximing yao and frank Chen......or would they teach 2 differnt styles ??? and it would be just a wait of money.....

which coach u choose is up to u...but definitely not both...if u go under ximing yao, frank will not teach u no matter how much u pay..n i would think yao wont like his students to be coach by two different coaches either...

[wonger47]

i don't know where i can reach Frank Chen

[txyu]

"The first time that I played singles with Frank, I only managed to get a point off him and he wasn't even trying"

Lucky I didn't take up his offer to play some singles....I think he might have wanted some revenge for me and Badrad beating him in doubles :D

Maybe if he's there this Saturday, I'll play him...but only if I beat him first in doubles ;)

[SmashingBird]

yeah..frank is a good singles player but i think many ppl underestimate his doubles play as well juss because he is so smart in singles.... i think his doubles is on par wif his singles...is juss that usually his partner is not as good as him so he might look weaker in doubles than singles...(eg. 5=5 , but if is (5 + 4)/2= 4.5 so thus he seems weaker)

[Gryp]

Hehehe.. Frank is my new coach :D

Already helped me fix some problems but I gotta practice those too..

He's real fun to watch.. cuz he's so relaxed.

He teaches in mandarin.. good thing Im from Singapore.. ehehe.. but anywasy.. he's always like.. "Fang song! Fang song yi dian!"

Translation: Relax.. relax a little!

Hehe which is so true.. he whooped smashingbird and i without even trying really.. i think he was a bit too relaxed.. lol.. he didn't even smash once.. well.. didn't need to.

Anyways.. I like his teaching approach.. drills.. analyzes your play/technique/movements.. and also he encourages you to watch him as he plays in terms of his own technique and movements.. and especially strategy. Because he's so relaxed.. it's hard to tell what he's gonna hit.. quite deceptive with the relaxed approach.. :D

BTW: Frank just won the Masters for this year.. or that's what he just told me last nite :O

[badrad]

Originally posted by txyu
"The first time that I played singles with Frank, I only managed to get a point off him and he wasn't even trying"

Lucky I didn't take up his offer to play some singles....I think he might have wanted some revenge for me and Badrad beating him in doubles :D

Maybe if he's there this Saturday, I'll play him...but only if I beat him first in doubles ;) He was partnered with Paul, who is also my doubles partner sometimes. Paul and Frank are a tough team, but Paul is actually much stronger than Frank in singles and doubles.

Frank has quick response, and TXYU and I had to get used to each others doubles play style, so they got some early points on us the first game. But just by picking up the speed and increasing our attacks, they really got very tired. I think the second game they only managed a couple points...

[SmashingBird]

Originally posted by Gryp



Hehe which is so true.. he whooped smashingbird and i without even trying really.. i think he was a bit too relaxed.. lol.. he didn't even smash once.. well.. didn't need to.

nite :O

he got lucky i was hafing trouble wif the strings on my cab20....

:mad: :mad:

[wonger47]

ANY WAYS WHERE CAN I REACH THIS GUY!!!!!!!

[SmashingBird]

Originally posted by wonger47
ANY WAYS WHERE CAN I REACH THIS GUY!!!!!!!
i dunno:confused: :confused:

[bigredlemon]

Originally posted by Gryp
"Fang song! Fang song yi dian!"
LOL... that's just funny for some reason. I think i do that too... though I'm not sure why that is bad?

[SmashingBird]

Originally posted by bigredlemon
LOL... that's just funny for some reason. I think i do that too... though I'm not sure why that is bad?

isn't that suppose to be good?!...lol.... btw, wonger47, do u understand mandrian?
wut skool u from?
where u live?
and where u live?
where u from?
how old r u?
wut is ur career goal?
do you like badminton?

[wonger47]

im 15 years old
i don't speak manderine
i live in vancouver
and i love badminton

[wonger47]

How much does Frank Chen charge you guys???for lessons

[SmashingBird]

cant post exact price here... the range will be between $100-200 for a month or 8 hrs.....
so u dun understand mandrian?

[wonger47]

nope.......why can't he speak english???

[Winex West Can]

Okay, spoke with Frank this evening and before he will take you on, he needs to do an assessment on you.

Wonger, I will PM Frank's contact info.

[wonger47]

Thank you

[SmashingBird]

Originally posted by wonger47
nope.......why can't he speak english???

WHY CAN'T YOU SPEAK MANDRIAN!?!..hahah..jk man
yeah he can speak english..lol

since wwc already pm u wif the info, then i m not needed ne more..hahaha...

i m wondering wut KIND of assessment he will do on YOU...hahaha

[wonger47]

well im only like an interm. player so.......

[SmashingBird]

i m probably beginner to high beginner maybe....so....

[wonger47]

when you guys train where does he teach you?? what city and what center??

[SmashingBird]

at a church in richmond..what is ur fone #

[wonger47]

I contacted Frank today and i'll be there tomorrow at 1:00 so he can access me......are you going to be there tomorrow??

[SmashingBird]

no i wont be there..but i fink Gryp will be.... are u looking for private lessons or group lessons?

[SmashingBird]

btw, do u haf icq..mines is 47806167

[wonger47]

i want private lessons

[SmashingBird]

Originally posted by wonger47
i want private lessons

oh ok..then i guess i wont see u

btw..did ur mom fone frank?

[wonger47]

yep.....why??

[SmashingBird]

Originally posted by wonger47
yep.....why??
coz frank said some1 foned him and he didn't know who

[wonger47]

do you have msn messanger??

[SmashingBird]

Originally posted by wonger47
do you have msn messanger??
yeah i do..lol...this has become more of a real time chat than a forum..lol....

supersayiamekpiccogetalo@Hotmail.com

[Cheung]

Originally posted by SmashingBird
yeah i do..lol...this has become more of a real time chat than a forum..lol.... Glad you noticed that, let's keep the forum to related issues. If you want to communicate about more personal issues, then use PM or other means. Thanks:)

[bguy7890]

Hi,

I'm looking for a coach and would like to contact Frank Chen. If someone happens to know his contact info, please kindly PM me.
Thanks very much.

[TTT]

I don't have Frank's contact info, but I've seen him do coaching at BCIT on Saturdays. Maybe you can find him there and get an idea how the lessons are conducted.

[timeless]

SmashingBird... you still train with Frank? I thought you stopped ages ago.

EDIT: Whooops didn't notice the dates of the posts were from last year! My bad. Ignore this one :o .

[timeless]

BTW how much does Frank charge?

[timeless]

PM SmashingBird incase he doesn't see this thread. He's taken lessons from Frank before and might still have his contact information.

Good luck.


Hi,

I'm looking for a coach and would like to contact Frank Chen. If someone happens to know his contact info, please kindly PM me.
Thanks very much.

[bguy7890]

Thanks very much for the info. I'll PM SmashingBird to see if he has Frank's contact info.

[RacquetChat]

No, my friend coaches Chris and my daughter (little badrad). Like myself, he doesn't charge for his services, and he only will train those he want to. As far as I know he is only working on 4 students as well.
Hi BadRad,

I know Chris' coach quite well (he teaches my son and we sit on a committee together). If we share the same coach, I surely must know your daughter... What's her name? Does she play in the senior or junior competitive group at Vancouver Lawn?

[mathew.leung]

well i am having Sian Deng as my coach now, she is pretty good for beginners and intermediates .
but if u are kind of pro , i would suggest you get yao ximing as a coach

[wonger47]

By now I have trained with Frank Chen for 5 years. I must say, he is really an amazing coach. I went from C level to B level in only 5 years! and you can too!;) Frank's motto is always "try to wear a smile" and I do, everytime I train with him.