String Tension Test By Sound

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  1. Oldhand

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    A question for the panda:

    My racquets were re-strung yesterday.
    I chose Yonex BG-65Ti (which, like the Ashaway Micro Power, is 0.70mm).
    All the racquets were strung at 27 lbs.

    While playing your video, I tested my Ti-10 racquets.
    Surprisingly, my 27 lbs sounds exactly like your 29/30 :eek:
    Worse, your racquets have been used for a while after stringing.
    Mine haven't!

    Given that the gauge is the same, why would this happen?
    Could it be that my stringer has wrongly calibrated his machine? :confused:

    I'm beginning to WorryALot!
     
  2. jerby

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    so, if your stringers equipment is calibrated, your tension should drop about 2-3lbs after a session or two...

    pretty plausible if you ask me.. Freshly strung sounds tighter than slightly used...

    play with them once, then recheck, it's probably of by 1lbs or so..nothing to worry about...
     
  3. Oldhand

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    Yep, that should be it.
    I shoulda thought about that :eek:
     
  4. Matt

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    Instead of saying high pitch, it does not really mean much. For us who know music, please list the "note", it is much more meaningful for reference for tension.
     
  5. DinkAlot

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    Also, Yonex's Ti coating adds to the higher pitch.
     
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    are you fearing for the time-space continuum? that it might just rip and twirl around in a birdie, smashed into nonexistence?
     
  7. DinkAlot

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    Wouldn't note would be the general term and pitch be the specific/exact term?

    Anyway, as I said before, it's all relative.
     
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    Yes it would be and it would provide all of us a better reference of exactly what the pitch is the sound is relatively.

    For example, 27.5lbs has a note of around "E" when freshly strung.
     
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    I think string thickness (more precisely linear density) and length of string between the ends of the frame would alter the pitch of the sound, since the frequency of the sound depends on the tension of the string, its linear density, and its length.

    Maybe badminton strings are pretty similar in thickness and frames are similar in diameter so those may be negligible.

    I think in general the sound is a rough indication of tension though.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vibrating_string#Frequency_of_the_wave

    Pitch is the main frequency of the sound, and note is the name given to that frequency.
     
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  10. Oldhand

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    Oh Well...!

    Craziness isn't and hasn't ever been my forte, but what the heck!
    I just tested the panda's ting-ting-ting-ting against my piano :D

    25/26 is almost exactly C
    27/28 is close to C-Sharp
    29/30 is almost exactly D
    31/32 is close to D-Sharp

    PS: Strumming would've given a better sound
    This hit-hit-hit-hit creates an unusual timbre :p
     
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    I'm wondering if anybody has ever tried to make a tune out of badminton string "tings" (what I am saying - this is BC: of COURSE you have!).

    Something simple to start with. The 5-note "Pentium" theme, for example:D.
     
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    Just curious what string and racket is this? It seems like the tension is significantly off since 25/27 and 25.5/27.5 is an "E" for me, therefore it is much higher than the 31/32 as listed as cloee to D#.

    My C# would be around 23/25 or 22.5/24.5.
     
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    I agree in general with OldHand's finding. I just want to add 1 more thing. Different thickness string will have 1/2 note to full note different depend on what string is used. A BG65 at at same tension is about 1 note lower than BG85. Also, a better way to ping the string is by using another racquet, not your palm.
     
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    You missed it, didn't you? :p

    In Dink-Dink's video, all the racquets are the Yonex Ti-10.
    The string is Ashaway Micro Power (it's in his first post) :)
     
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    so which is it, almost or exactly :confused: :p
     
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    maybe we should get a high end microphone and record it and compare data such as the frequency of each tension, etc. that would be cool.
     
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    i think you should hit some birds... i wana hear the different sound of different tension. that would be cool.
     
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    How interesting--I was thinking about this the other day, and almost posted a thread asking about it. It's an quick way to see how similar/accurate stringers are when you ask for, say 28lbs.
     
  19. Matt

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    Wait for more data. Maybe a better idea just to get the data when it's freshly strung right off the machine, then you could determine right off the bat if it was strung tight enough initially.
     
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  20. drowsysmurf

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    to add to this, there are also different octaves. your c# could be 1 octave lower in terms of musical notes. :p I am not sure if that is actually true... but it could be. Also different strings sounds a little different. TI strings gives more metallic sound and there for could sound higher at the same tension as another string.
     

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